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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on your war room for insider news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Select by Rand Joe and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us well.

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Speaker 1: The countdown clock says forty two days, six hours, forty

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Speaker 1: nine minutes and now zero zero seconds before we get

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Speaker 1: to take part in an NFL draft. We've been working

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Speaker 1: on this draft. It feels like forever now and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined here by my drafting buddies, player personnel guys, Dame

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Speaker 1: Brugler from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David

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Speaker 1: Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, who got a taste

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Speaker 1: of a pro day yesterday at Baylor and so interested

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Speaker 1: to see his thoughts a lot of good players at

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Speaker 1: Baylor and interested to see what his impressions were of that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you are listening to the Draft Show, like I said,

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Speaker 1: where we like to investigate and then educate you on

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Speaker 1: all things going on in the NFL draft. Um talked

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Speaker 1: about pro days and some big pro days last week

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Speaker 1: and what we saw with Ohio State, uh, with Clemson,

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Speaker 1: with Alabama this week we're starting to get some individual workouts,

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Speaker 1: still in the pro day mode, but we had UCLA

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Speaker 1: Miles Jack my favorite player of all time. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: guy that I will go down that could be my

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Speaker 1: new uh Joey Harrington. Yeah, and still that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the problem, aniscus. Yeah, that's the problem. I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, and I and the one thing that the

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Speaker 1: disadvantage that we have now of what we do and

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Speaker 1: look at these players as we fall in love with him,

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Speaker 1: and then a guy with dr period in front of

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Speaker 1: his name comes and says, Brian, not so fast. But

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Speaker 1: but don't we investigate and educate. We're trying. And if

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Speaker 1: you investigate that knee I know and I and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to believe and it still might work out for

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Speaker 1: Miles Jack. Oh yeah, it still might work situation No,

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Speaker 1: and then we need to get into that one too.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm now getting I'm now getting uh nervous

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Speaker 1: about the situation with Miles James. Hard not to get

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Speaker 1: attached to these guys. I'm attached to him because I'm

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Speaker 1: watched him play every day. Yeah exactly, and you you

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Speaker 1: fall in love with what this guy can do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: potential that he has. But then yeah, the kicker, something's

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Speaker 1: going on with that knee. Ye, Miles Jack tells us

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Speaker 1: as soon as he's he said he was gonna be

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent on the fifteenth, and as soon as

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Speaker 1: he said he wasn't going to run his forty. Now

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Speaker 1: you said it, you're right, and I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: believe it. Even if he does run the forty, great,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't all that doesn't tell us everything. So

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Speaker 1: there still might be issues with the knee. We saw

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Speaker 1: it with Jgi E last year. You know, he was

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Speaker 1: able to work out fine, but it was more long

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Speaker 1: term that teams were worried about. He fell to the

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Speaker 1: fifth round, right, So what will we see with Miles Jack.

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Speaker 1: We still don't know. The medical rechecks will tell us

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Speaker 1: a lot more. Yeah, disappointed by that, yet I hope

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Speaker 1: everything works out for him. I wonder what well we

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Speaker 1: saw Jgi E as like a top forty pick, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he fell to the fifth round. So Miles Jack

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Speaker 1: is a top five pick. I wonder how far he

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Speaker 1: might fall. And that's the thing with injuries is, you know,

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Speaker 1: no two injuries are alike. No two knees are alike,

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Speaker 1: and how they recover from these injuries, and you know

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Speaker 1: the long term prognosis. So yeah, each one has to

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Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, he'll be a box player for some teams.

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Speaker 1: Other teams might be more willing to take a flyer

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Speaker 1: the rechecking everything. Got some news about another potential first

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Speaker 1: round pick though, And I don't mean to beat make

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Speaker 1: this a medical show, but I will shack Lawson. Some

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Speaker 1: teams talking about his shoulders. He's had a history of

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Speaker 1: shoulder issues the time because of it though, right, No,

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Speaker 1: but he he loves to use his shoulder on the field,

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Speaker 1: the way he leans in the blockers, the way he hits.

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Speaker 1: And we also and you were talking about earlier, Jalen

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Speaker 1: for a player who started every game at Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: talking about. So he's done for the whole. Uh for

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Speaker 1: this season? Though, David, at what point time do you

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Speaker 1: he's teams taking guys and stashing them away and hope

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Speaker 1: that maybe someday they will rise again. Does this count

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Speaker 1: as a stash though? I mean it reminds me of

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Speaker 1: out very well for San Francisco. It didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but The reason I say I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: counts as a stash is because I think everybody agrees

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not coming from Saginaw State or something

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Speaker 1: like that. Um. We saw it last year with Polamu, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then the Browns, who had a lot of picks

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Speaker 1: take a flyer on a guy that might have injury issues.

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Speaker 1: That's where I would take him six round. Now, he's

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Speaker 1: sounds forever to go, forever ago and Hellman always gives

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Speaker 1: me grief about my father time stories. But I'll tell

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Speaker 1: a father time story. Jeremiah Trotter, you know, had a

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Speaker 1: ten games or ten years. And I give Jeff Lurie

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Speaker 1: the league. So again, sometimes he's medical. Things can go

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Speaker 1: might not ever play again. He for sure won't play

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, So we will see about that pro

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Speaker 1: don't think there's anything more overrated than took the words

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Speaker 1: right out of my mouth a scripted quarterback workout. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we get excited about that day, don't we? Fifty seven

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Speaker 1: and for some of these guys is important. You and

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Speaker 1: that was very well script and some of that was

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Speaker 1: most part, I think it's just it's all scripted workouts,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna come away from tomorrow's pro

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Speaker 1: day and say, Okay, this he's definitely the top quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He needs to go. The Browns need to take him

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Speaker 1: at number two. David. It kind of getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit of win that maybe that Connor Cook might have

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Speaker 1: a private workout with the Cowboys. Yeah, he said, he

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Speaker 1: said he's got one scheduled. Actually, is that there's that

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Speaker 1: expect that the Cowboys should probably have some kind of

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Speaker 1: workout scheduled with every quarterback there is every viable one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't you. We know they're interested in

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. We heard that they're interested in Connor Cook.

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Speaker 1: You assume they're doing their due diligence on the top

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Speaker 1: Should he be at thirty four absolutely, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: in plays he would played for you at thirty four day.

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Speaker 1: they have to take him. I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: last to sixty seven. Um, what round grade did you

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Speaker 1: don't like the player myself, but the fact that the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: like we we've heard speaking of another guy, Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 1: it's about you feel good about that? Sure? Absolutely it's value.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody that's really worth having is gone. So

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Speaker 1: you're drafting Spence. Well no, I'm saying if you're but

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Speaker 1: especially and they took Grace by case, don't they. They

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Speaker 1: spots after Spence, So I mean, this is still a

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Speaker 1: it is, And so that's they had a lot of

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Speaker 1: round player, But I think Dotson deserves some consideration and

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Speaker 1: And the other thing too with Spence is he's better

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Speaker 1: the holes on this team. But I mean, Terrence Williams

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Speaker 1: Not not really. Um they had um, but he got

426
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Speaker 1: he went through a whole workout though, right they did.

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Speaker 1: Who was taller? You were? Corey me? Oh no, Well

428
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Speaker 1: I like that. He just he seems little. Yeah, and

429
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 1: he's he's yoked. He's a stocky guy. But he you know,

430
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Speaker 1: he's not this imposing Julio Jones does Brian type of Honestly,

431
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Speaker 1: the easy comparison is Odell Beckham. I mean, justin three

432
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Speaker 1: you say he's got a little of that in him.

433
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Speaker 1: He's he's ready for the superstar lifestyle. I'll tell you that,

434
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Speaker 1: Like he's I wake up, kind of bringing him down.

435
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Speaker 1: I was talking to him about I was talking to

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Speaker 1: him about Dez because Corey Coleman has already signed a

437
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Speaker 1: deal with Jordan, hasn't played enough bail down. Yeah, well,

438
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Speaker 1: so I was talking to him about Dez. He grew

439
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Speaker 1: up a Cowboys fan, you know, he's from Dallas. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, Dez is mister Jordan, so y'all

441
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Speaker 1: would get along or whatever. He's like, I'm mister Jordan too,

442
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Speaker 1: And I was like, you do not lack for confidence,

443
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Speaker 1: sir at all, Like for him ready to go. I

444
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Speaker 1: think you would worry this team at all. Not you,

445
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Speaker 1: but this team about another Baylor receiver knowing you know,

446
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Speaker 1: I think I don't. I don't know where to play

447
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Speaker 1: him though. Well, these wide receivers out of Baylor, I

448
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: mean they see you're going, I see where you and

449
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: there's times where you watch him they don't do anything exactly.

450
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Speaker 1: They just stand over there and do a big bag

451
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Speaker 1: of nothing unchallenged routes as half field reads. I mean,

452
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Speaker 1: that's that's something that you know, as I think Coleman

453
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Speaker 1: will be a productive pro but you have the Baylor

454
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Speaker 1: offense does have to worry you somewhat. I would take

455
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Speaker 1: dots and all day, and that's fine. I'm to Dane's point. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: I mean Terrence Williams. There's plenty of questions and complaints

457
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Speaker 1: you can come up with his for his play, but

458
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's been so bad that it would

459
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Speaker 1: turn you off from a Baylor receiver. I mean, as

460
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Speaker 1: the eightieth overall pick, he's been a productive and explosive

461
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Speaker 1: part of this offense. I mean, he hasn't been so

462
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: bad that I'm just like cross off all Baylor and prospects. No.

463
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Speaker 1: But but to take him at thirty four over a

464
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Speaker 1: JSON or over Fuller, would you be surprised if people

465
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Speaker 1: had him as the best receiver? Some people do over

466
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Speaker 1: treadwall even. I mean I don't, I don't agree, but

467
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Speaker 1: I guess I could see it because you know, we're

468
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Speaker 1: we're not drafting these guys for you know, the rookie year.

469
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Speaker 1: We're drafting these guys for three road absolutely, and so

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Speaker 1: wouldn't shock meant a off Corey Coleman ends up being

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Speaker 1: the most explosive receiver from this draft. Okay, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: I'll break the players down for you. You can agree disagree,

525
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Speaker 1: but looks like we're gonna do ten players per position

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Speaker 1: going through the draft. You know, hundred words on each guy,

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Speaker 1: so it'll be something that you can use as you're

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Speaker 1: falling along on draft day. So okay, I think ed

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Speaker 1: k Hill for coming up with this segment. It is

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Speaker 1: Twitter on the Twitter. Dave Hellman, you got it, Fred

531
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Speaker 1: wants to know. Um, I guess sort of a comparison,

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Speaker 1: what is it about Bosa that makes him a more

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Speaker 1: viable prospect than Shack Lawson. I mean Shack Lawson's kind

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Speaker 1: of in that conversation for number two in what a question? Yeah,

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00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: that is a good question. I mean they bring a

536
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Speaker 1: lot of the same strengths with their game, their skill set,

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Speaker 1: the kind of style that they play. Neither at the elite.

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Speaker 1: You know, Guy's gonna bend the edge consist instantly right

539
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: win with speed. But I think they both are are

540
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: are strong or technically sound. Um, I think I just

541
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: get both of the edge because he's just a little

542
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: bit more advanced with his hand technique and technique is outstanding.

543
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the way he understands and he and

544
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: he learns throughout the course of a game, you know,

545
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: and just how to break down the rhythm of the

546
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: of the blocker and the offensive lineman. So yeah, he's

547
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: just a little for far more advanced. But I mean

548
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: Lawson's a darn good player too. Yeah, Lawson is good.

549
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: I will say this about Bosa though, when you do

550
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: watch him, and again, Dane's right about the quick that

551
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: that the quick get off all that, the swim, the grab,

552
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: the he's always trying to break the guy down. I

553
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: think he breaks a tackle down better than what Losson

554
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: does in my opinion. No, let's go and but now

555
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: now you have to have that to finish it. And

556
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: there are times where he absolutely finishes. And I think

557
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: what you can do with Bosa the teams. The teams

558
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: are going to figure out is you can kick him

559
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: inside and that's gonna be That might be because of

560
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: the quick or the hand quickness and the fighting. That

561
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: might be his better position in the I mean, he

562
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: might have more production as a three technique than he

563
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: has as a defensive end because he can get right

564
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: on the quarterback with quickness. Doesn't that scare you that

565
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: that he would be better at three techniques? We play

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Speaker 1: the run, Play the run, Yeah, play the left fitting

567
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: they're gonna I think they're gonna have to move if

568
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Speaker 1: they draft him. I think they're gonna move that. They'll

569
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: move to Marcus Lawrence. I think that's fine. But well,

570
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Tyrone Crawford too, though. Yeah, you put

571
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe put Crawford at the one, and then you know,

572
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: you get Mossa, who is an explosive player and dang's right,

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00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, and I people act again like I don't

574
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: like the guy. There are things about him with the

575
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Speaker 1: hands and all that that are outstanding. Could Shack play

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Speaker 1: right end here? I mean, I know he's probably not

577
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: the guy at four, but just entertain me. Yeah, well

578
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: again he's talking about that. They don't. It's it's all

579
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Speaker 1: about that spence. Those guys, those are the guys that

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Speaker 1: have that, and Lawrence can do that. Lads, that's where

581
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: Lawrence was originally thought that drafted him. Yeah, that's why. Yeah,

582
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, I know he did well left end last year,

583
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: but I have no problem moving him to right end

584
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Speaker 1: and putting a guy like Bosa left hand that Joey Boss,

585
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa would be a damn good left defensive end

586
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: and then and also a a inside player because the nickel.

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00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: When you move him inside, he just quick. He's closer

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Speaker 1: to the ball. We got a lot easier. We have

589
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: to try to convince fans that, like, you don't need

590
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: to jump off a cliff if they draft Joey Bosa.

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00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: I feel like that. I feel like I'm the guy

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Speaker 1: that kind of drove the train into the ditch. Because

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Speaker 1: you know and people it is. But I've said all

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00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: along the guys are good football players. No, it's the

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: biggest one of the issues with draft season is these

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Speaker 1: draft narratives that get started. Hey, that's why we have

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Speaker 1: the Draft show now exactly to educate part. Yeah, and

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00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: with a guy like Joey Bosa, he isn't Von Miller,

599
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: but he doesn't need to be. He wins in other

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Speaker 1: ways and he's he's a darn good football player. Who

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Speaker 1: I think you know I've this before, but people talk

602
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Speaker 1: about a ceiling dull darn and now he's going to

603
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Speaker 1: a ceiling's n He doesn't have that huge up, sir.

604
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Speaker 1: You don't need to project. He's already a darn good player.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. You don't need to drink draino if

606
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Speaker 1: they draft. That's bleach Blake. Blake wants to know. Um.

607
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't speak for the team or any

608
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: other teams. Box players are who do you have in

609
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Speaker 1: the box right now? Is there anybody? Is there anybody

610
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Speaker 1: you think they might have in the box. We talked

611
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Speaker 1: about Spence a little bit. There's box too because of

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Speaker 1: medical Yeah, and that that that that so you have

613
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Speaker 1: But if you if you're a guy that's filled a

614
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Speaker 1: drug test at the combine, there might be again, case

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Speaker 1: by case, a box player. I feel like there's a

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Speaker 1: lot fewer box players under the Will McClay watch than

617
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Speaker 1: I do with when Tom was doing Tom Siskowski. Yeah,

618
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Speaker 1: and I don't I don't mean that as a slam,

619
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Speaker 1: but Tom's a hardline guy. I think Will's a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. Let's open this thing up. We're eliminating, We're

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Speaker 1: eliminating Tyrn Matthew, We're eliminating, Uh the kid that play

622
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Speaker 1: is it Carolina? You know? Yeah, Norman, we're eliminating guy.

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Speaker 1: You know. But let's make it a case by case.

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Speaker 1: But to say, you know, if the one thing they

625
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Speaker 1: will tell you is if there has been a history

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Speaker 1: of drug use, that they that's one of the things

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Speaker 1: that they look at the drug use. Domestic violence is

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00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: another one that they that they are now looking very

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Speaker 1: strongly at two. So if you if those players following

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Speaker 1: those under that umbrella, then they will be a consideration

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Speaker 1: for Bob and I think one of those guys this

632
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: year who have a lot to do a lot of

633
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Speaker 1: work on Rushard Robinson. There you get corner from LSU

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00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: that's the One's a lot of issues there that I

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Speaker 1: that would be. I would not be surprised if he

636
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Speaker 1: ends up in the box. He fits exactly. You're thinking

637
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: we might hear some news about him. We wouldn't shock

638
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: me at all, we do. I mean, that's just kind

639
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: of how how his career has gone up at this point.

640
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: There's a lot of accountability issues there. If you can't

641
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: stay eligible at LSU, you got real problems. I am

642
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: proof of that. Um, here's a here's an interesting from cam.

643
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I think. So at least you talk about not needing

644
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott because the offensive line is so good you

645
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: can find cheaper production later in the draft. Is that

646
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: short sighted because you got contracts coming up on this line?

647
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's not going to stay together forever. I

648
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: mean Frederick's up in two years, Martin's up after that.

649
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Lal Collins has two years left on his deal before

650
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: they got to worry about retaining him. Doug Freeze. The

651
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: only guy that you know is going to be here

652
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future is Tyrant Smith. So is it

653
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: short sighted to think that you're going to have this

654
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: great wall here forever? I mean they're going to do

655
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: their best to keep these guys, but it's not gonna

656
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: surprise me one bit if a couple of them get away.

657
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: If you knew who, if you knew what you knew

658
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: about this offensive line right now, I mean, you know

659
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: the offensive blind the way it is. Who do you

660
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: think they let walk? Who would they let walk of

661
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman? Travis aside from Free? Yeah? Well yeah,

662
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: well no he doesn't the drafted Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably Yeah,

663
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: I think I mean Martin, I mean he's already two time.

664
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an All Pro. He's gonna be the

665
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: best guard in football going forward. And then Lyle's a

666
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: physical free and he gives you versus say he could

667
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: kick out the right tackle. Yeah, I mean he gives

668
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: you positions, which it makes me feel like a bad person,

669
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying a dog, not Jason Garrett In

670
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: shows great player. Yeah, but you can only pay so

671
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: many of these guys. I think that I think they

672
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: let the center walk, and they they they maybe you

673
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: might see a guy whoever the swing center is they

674
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: draft with that one thirty five, If that's the guy

675
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: or a third round guy, that that swing center guard

676
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: guy could be your starter a couple years, so we're

677
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: not getting too far away from the point. Is it

678
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: shortsighted to undervalue running back? No, you don't think it is.

679
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: So you think the line is still gonna be I

680
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: think the line will be Okay, it'll be in. I

681
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: think it'll be a check. Yeah, I think it'll be

682
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: a tax. If you could, if you could get if

683
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you could keep four the four of the five, yeah, sure,

684
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And then and then obviously you have a

685
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: little bit of understanding how to draft guys. Sure, so yeah,

686
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 1: we'll see. Okay, um, last one, we are all right.

687
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: David wants to know. We've talked about this a little bit,

688
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: but post Cedric Thornton, where are you looking at defensive tackle?

689
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: If at all? I'm trying to get a defensive end now, Yeah,

690
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking at first, I thought, you know, thirty four

691
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: could be a spot. When we started this journey a

692
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: long time ago, we were all talking about defensive tackles.

693
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: It became a joke of the show. It kind of

694
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: breaks my heart that I know, Andrew Billings is not

695
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: really an option for this team now, you know, sure

696
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: because of Thornton or because it just doesn't It doesn't

697
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 1: make sense to me. You gotta it's gotta be thirty four,

698
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: assuming he even falls that far. You need an end.

699
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: You're well, not only that, you're paying your tackles a

700
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: lot of money right now in corner. You know wide receiver,

701
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: we went through him to open the show. Yeah, but

702
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: i'd say and Andrew Billings as vality at thirty four. Okay,

703
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: what if Billings and Spence both are there in both

704
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: our first round grades? You gotta have the end, right,

705
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean, but you took Boast at four. But okay,

706
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: but let's say that. Let's say Spence isn't there. Say

707
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: they give is the first round grade and he's the

708
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: only first round grade available at thirty four. Second round?

709
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: There you go. Do you stick to your board and

710
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: take that's what you have to That's that's that's a

711
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: fair question. I guess I probably still would because you

712
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: need I mean, you got its rotation right, you need

713
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: eight guys right, and I I mean you have through

714
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: all McClain. But he's no sure thing, so it wouldn't

715
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: be the worst. McClain has been here two years now

716
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: and hand last of the season. It'd be pretty nasty

717
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: to have Tyrone Billings and uh, and say Crawford goes

718
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: down with the injury, I mean, could Thornton move to

719
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: play three technique or the three technique? And you know,

720
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: I mean you have a little bit of flexibility there

721
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: to move guys around. So I mean, I think Billings

722
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: is still in play if he's there at thirty four.

723
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: That's fair. Thank you. I appreciate that. Dan, I need it.

724
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad that I like. I like. I like him

725
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I got first round, he went under

726
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: five five flat in the fourth. He didn't need it,

727
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 1: which is funny. It's funny because you know, everyone's like,

728
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: oh my god, he didn't bench, like why wouldn't he bench?

729
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: And everyone I know he talked about doing fifty reps

730
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: at the combine and that's why he still did thirty one,

731
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: which was seventh best at the entire event. Like he

732
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: had a damn good bench. It's not like he can't bench.

733
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm gonna be nicer, that's what you know.

734
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: It didn't work out that way all the time. All right, Well,

735
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: thanks everybody for the Twitter questions. I'm gonna I'm gonna

736
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: keep it in your ballpark here. Let's do it because

737
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna do another one of my favorite things to

738
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: do now, and it's called tell Me More. Here on

739
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: the Draft Show, we like to we like to find

740
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: a way to not only talk about the top guys,

741
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: but we take pride in giving you names of guys

742
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: down the line, guys so when they are picked in

743
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, we still have an

744
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: understanding of who they are. So again, if you buy

745
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: Dan's Draft Guide in the Star magazine, you'll know that anyway.

746
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: But on this show, we'll do that. So, Dave, who

747
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: do you got today for? Tell Me More? Well, I'm

748
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna start off with some prote guys because that's kind

749
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: of been in the theme of the week. I was

750
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: in Waco and Miles Jack worked out on Tuesday in

751
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: La I told you all this yesterday. So I'm gonna

752
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: start one out. Start out with one that you're ready for. Okay,

753
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: I want to know more about Baylor cornerback Zavian Howard.

754
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: What can you tell me he clocked in at like

755
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: a did a damn good for it yesterday? Yeah, I

756
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: don't know how. I mean, they're always faster at their

757
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: pro days. Oh yeah, but I'm and he's big. He's

758
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: a big, big guy too, So I'm interested. First off,

759
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: on Howard. He and William Jackson were teammates in high

760
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: school cornerback tandem. How about that, I mean, how tough

761
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: is that going for those two corners future NFL guys.

762
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: But Howard first flashed for me last year going up

763
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: against Kevin White, the West Virginia wide receiver. They had

764
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: some battles. White got the best of them a few times,

765
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: but Howard held his own. He's a big guy. He

766
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: can run, and he consistently stays within arm's length of

767
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: wide receivers. He doesn't that He's not a guy you're

768
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna look at as the prototype for fundamentals. He does

769
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: not pay attention to the technique like you you know,

770
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: want a guy too. But he's quick, he's agile, and

771
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: I love his ball skills, the way he can attack

772
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: the ball. He finds it and he goes and gets it.

773
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: And so for me, he's a second round pick and

774
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: one of the better corners in this draft that doesn't

775
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: get the love he should. Yeah, he's a smooth moving

776
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: guy too. You watch him play, and like Dane, the

777
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: thing I like about him and when you can you

778
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: can kind of get away with it when you don't

779
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: play technique really well. If you're if you have an

780
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: understanding of routes and how to play routes. And I

781
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: think he's got that ability. I mean I see him

782
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: like bang on a receiver and then kind of adjust

783
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: and whatever that receiver hever receiver takes his route. He's

784
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: kind of there involved with that. He can undercut routes.

785
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: I think he's got a really good understanding of how

786
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: to stay in position to play routes. You like him

787
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: in the second round. Is thirty four too high? I

788
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: don't think so. I mean, I think he's I have

789
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: William Jackson rated higher, so I mean I would take

790
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Jackson over him. But I don't think thirty four is

791
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: too high. And I think you hit on it doing

792
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: doing wide receiver like things, right, That's what you look

793
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: for in a corner. Some corners can get away with

794
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: that with speed, they can stay within arm's length. Howard

795
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: does it because he understands a wide receiver position, so

796
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: he's able to stay in shadow and mirror what the

797
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: receiver's doing. Yeah, six foot Draft Advisory Board told him

798
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: he was a fourth or fifth round grade and he

799
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: needed to stay in school. I think he's about to

800
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: make them eat their words. Yeah, And I can't believe

801
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: watching tape he would think that unless they're getting on

802
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: him about the technique and stuff like that. I have

803
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: him in the third round myself. But Dane's right. People

804
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: need corners and they need big corners and he can

805
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: do that. It's hard for, you know, in the Big twelve,

806
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys playing corner, you're gonna

807
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: get beat. If you're if you want to play corner

808
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: and you go to the Big twelve, you're going to

809
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: get beat. That's just the nature of the conference. So

810
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: there is some you know, bad tape out there, but

811
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot more good tape, and his

812
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: upside is off the charts. Okay, sticking in the Big

813
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: twelve because I'm terrified about this team's pass rush. It

814
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: looks really bad. It doesn't look good at all. Tell

815
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: me more about out Emmanuel Ogba out of Oklahoma State.

816
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: Kind of a forgotten guy for a lot of people,

817
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Like I know, he's a higher grade than what I

818
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: would want for this segment. I mean, he's considered a

819
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: pretty high prospect, but completely buried, Like we haven't talked

820
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: about him once on this show. I'm confident. Yeah, not

821
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: very much, though, tell me more. I think I feel

822
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: like though, and just looking at my notes, I felt

823
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: like that that he had like upper body strength. I

824
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: thought that was really good. I thought his hands, the

825
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: way he played his hands, I didn't see him always

826
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: explosive to capture the edge. No, he's not that guy. Yeah,

827
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: and especially when you watch him play against white Hair

828
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: from Kansas State, white Hair takes him to task pretty well,

829
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: even to the point where they had to move. I

830
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: know I've said that a couple of different times, but

831
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's one of those guys that if he

832
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: could get his shoulder past the blocker, he's got a shot.

833
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean he could, he could sharpen it down, but

834
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: you don't always see him capturing that edge. And I

835
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: don't see that elite type of ability to do that

836
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: to beat Now he's keeping play. He's a right end,

837
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: but I just don't see him all the time being

838
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: able to get the edge, get the shoulder passed, and

839
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: then flatten to the quarterback. He's very methodical with his speed,

840
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: with his explosiveness. I mean, that's just he's not a

841
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: twitchy type of guy, right, But he's balanced, he's physical,

842
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: and he Gundy called on the coach's dream because of

843
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: his work ethic, the way he carries himself. He's born

844
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: in Nigeria, came over here when he was I believe

845
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: nine or ten years old. So I mean he's you know,

846
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about him off the field.

847
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna give everything he has, but he's

848
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: still learning the complexities at the position, yeah, and of

849
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: the sport overall. So I do think he's worth a

850
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: second round pick, and I do think he will continue

851
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: to get better. I don't see him as a guy

852
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, bend the edge consistently win the corners.

853
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: He is, but there are still things alike about him

854
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: possible he's there at sixty seven. I know you just

855
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: said second round being a pass rusher. I think he

856
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: probably goes second round. I mean, I think he's he's

857
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: more he's more middle too late than he is early.

858
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: If people in fact are gonna put him in that point,

859
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: there's other guys that I would consider before him, But

860
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to get excited about him as a first

861
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: round player. But if you land him in the mid

862
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: second round. You can do a lot worse. Absolutely sticking

863
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: with the past rusher, This is a Dane special. This

864
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: is a Dallas Cowboys special because they draft guys from

865
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: nobody's schools, well, not even draft whatever. Matt Judon from

866
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: Grand Valley State, the fighting Jeff Heaths, I believe or

867
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: is it he's a Grand Valley? Yeah? Is it car

868
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: or sagona Valley. One of them is sagonaw On. One

869
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: of them is Grand val Cars, Grand Valley. Yeah, there

870
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: you go. But they love their players from nobody's schools

871
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: in Michigan, is my point. Yeah. And obviously he faces

872
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: a big jump of competition going from D two to

873
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: uh what he's gonna face the NFL. And but he

874
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: just dominated D two competition. I mean the offensive tackles

875
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: that he faced, they had no shot against him, right,

876
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean he one thing I worry about with him.

877
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: He has some past knee issues that he has to

878
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: will come the medicals, have to come back clean. But

879
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: you watch him that initial quickness off the edge to dip.

880
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: He he'll fly through the air, you know, to get

881
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: after the ball. That kind of a you know when

882
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: we were when we were doing his tape, scouts went

883
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: on the road with him weighing two hundred and fifty

884
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: five pounds and at the combine, I want to say

885
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: he weighed two seventy five, which I'm right, Yeah, he's

886
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: sixty three two seventy five. And I initially on tape,

887
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: I thought it more of a three to four outside linebacker.

888
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: And just to show you the tape with Dane's talking

889
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: about I watched Southwest Baptist Ashland and Ferris State. Jeez,

890
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: you know that that's but that's not his fault. It's

891
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: not I mean, that's that's Grand Valley State plays those schools.

892
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: But I will say this, this guy plays on both sides.

893
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: He could play right in, he could play left in.

894
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: But I saw him playing a much lighter weight at

895
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five pounds. And I will say this,

896
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: though he could chase from the back side, he can

897
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: capture the edge. He works to the level of the quarterback.

898
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: I mean he I could say Russias from both sides.

899
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: I see a burst, I he balance. You know, he

900
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: uses technique, you can bull rush. There's some things about

901
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: this guy that are really really good, and I like,

902
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: I like, But I'll tell you one thing. When you

903
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: see a guy that can retrace his steps when he

904
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: goes up and then the play comes past him and

905
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: he goes back and he gets on on the play,

906
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: that's effort, that's desire. There's a lot of things to

907
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: like about this player. But again, you're watching the doesn't

908
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: freak you out that the tackles he's abusing are in

909
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: CPAs well. Okay, we're gonna talk about eventually, we're gonna

910
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: talk about an offensive tackle that plays that. I think

911
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: that I don't know if and I don't know if

912
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: he's on your list not to the West Georgia offensive tackle. Yeah, so,

913
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean I I you know, there's obviously there's talent

914
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: and every I mean sixty three he's six three, two

915
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: seventy five. Now, I mean there's if if he in

916
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: fact is not If he could play the with the

917
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: quickness that he played with and that burst and exploit,

918
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: he's a guy that I would take, I would take

919
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: a strong look at because he has he's got he's

920
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: got an understanding. He really really does. I know, I'm

921
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: not overselling this guy. He does have an understand It's

922
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: disappointing that he was supposed to be at the Shrine game. Yeah,

923
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: but he got hurt and so I didn't get a

924
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: chance to see him. I was looking forward to seeing

925
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: him against an upticking competition. But that's the issue with

926
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: all these smaller school guys because it is such a

927
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: difference in speed going up a level. You know, last

928
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: year with Ali Marpett coming from the D three level,

929
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: he didn't face a single rusher that was going to,

930
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, have a sniff at the NFL. But he

931
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: goes to the the Senior Bowl and he still holds his own.

932
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: So this guy did. This guy at two seventy five

933
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: ran four sixty eight, let's go, and he had thirty

934
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: thirty reps at two twenty five. All right, there's some

935
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: freakish things about him. Now, you're right. I watched Southwest,

936
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: Baptist Ashland and Fairest State. It's not fair, But I'm

937
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: just imagining Tyrn Smith doing that like slap mod He

938
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: love that movie where he gets up Phil he just

939
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: pushes him way. Yeah, two seventy five. I don't know

940
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: round what are we talking here? Like the guy talking,

941
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm thinking thirty four overall? No no no, no no

942
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: no no no no no Where'd I have him here?

943
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: I had him in the third round? Wow? Yeah, God,

944
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: that's intriguing that that goes strong? There? Did I go?

945
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: Did I over got him in the fifth? Higher night?

946
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: But no, No, that he's a pass rusher who has

947
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: proven he can get to the quarterback. So you know, I,

948
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: if you go, it wouldn't be shocks. He ends up

949
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: in the third round. Yeah, I wasn't impressed when I

950
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: talked to him. Um, how was he? I talked? I

951
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: talked to some coaches about him. He told me, Dane

952
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: the dream killer is the dream killer. He told him

953
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: he wised up as a senior. He got a lot better.

954
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: But that's a red flag than me when you have

955
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: to wise up as a senior. Um. But no, hey,

956
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: he maybe the light bulb turned on for him, and

957
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: you know he's full go the rest of the way.

958
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: We'll see. But I I that's a guy I take

959
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: a chance on the fifth round. But hey, if a

960
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: team take the chance. I'm on the third round and

961
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: he hits, we're gonna split him on our board. He's

962
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: gonna be there at four there go round there we go.

963
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: I'll take him at one thirty five. Uh, this is

964
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: the broadest schell Mackenzie Bernardo has departed in free agency. Yeah,

965
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: needn't mean regardless what you might think they needed line depth, right,

966
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: Isaac sue Malo? Did I say that right? Did you

967
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: say it right? Tell me more about the Oregon State.

968
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I twetered about him the other

969
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: day because I just finished his report. I think he's

970
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: a top three center in this class. But he did

971
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: play guard last year, so he does bring some position flex.

972
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: As long as he's healthy, this guy's a top one

973
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: hundred pick for me. I mean, I think he's that good.

974
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: He's not the biggest, not the strongest, but he's just

975
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: Some guys were born to play the position and he was.

976
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: He's one of them. The way his technique is, the

977
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: way he sits in a stance, He's able to anchor,

978
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: He's able to control the point of attack. I think

979
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: he's best at center, and I think that he could

980
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: be a long time starter in this league. To me,

981
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: I get a top three center. I grated him at

982
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: as a Again, it matters on the medicals up because

983
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: he missed all of twenty fourteen with a foot shoe,

984
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: came back this past year was still getting back into

985
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: the swing of things. But he's a football lifer. His

986
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: dad a longtime defensive line coach for several colleges. I

987
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: think this guy is the real deal. I'll be interested

988
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: to see because I had him in the fifth It's

989
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: where I had him, and he played. I watched him

990
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: play left tack. What a disparity here. Yeah, no, but

991
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's okay, that's what this is all about.

992
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: It scares me, though, Like it scares me when y'all

993
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: don't really see eyed eye on Oh no, we see

994
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: eyed eye on these guys. Well. And he said he's

995
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: a top one hundred pick. I saw him in the fifth,

996
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: but he I like, who got him a full fifty

997
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: picks later? I just I'm just telling you, though, he's right, though.

998
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: The guy played left tackle, and he was out of

999
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: place playing left talk. He was out of place playing

1000
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: left tack. Hit three starts a left tackle down. Yeah,

1001
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: And it's not when they put him inside a guard though,

1002
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: though he is he is a better player. Though. I

1003
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: like your analysis more because I know they need somebody.

1004
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: But I would not like it if they spent a

1005
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: top one hundred pick on a or lineman. I think no,

1006
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: wait a minute, now, wait a minute, now, let's think

1007
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: about this. What if it is a center, what if

1008
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: it's somebody that we do liked. It's just I think

1009
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: they need to get a center, for a true center first.

1010
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: And you think the guy could play thinking the true center, Yeah,

1011
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: he played center's first two years. Yeah, freshman sophomore year.

1012
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: He to me is freshman sophomore year, he looked like

1013
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: a future All pro as a center. He got hurt

1014
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: and chosen fourteen miss the entire year. Came back this

1015
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: past year for a brand new coaching staff, and they

1016
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: moved in the guard and left tackle. Yeah, I think

1017
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: he can play guard, but he's best at center. And yeah,

1018
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: to me, it's say you Malow, say what you want about,

1019
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: say you Malow. But he's the guy. I like Glasgow

1020
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: from Michigan. He lives with his grandmother. I like him.

1021
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: I like worries me a little bit because he's tall.

1022
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: He's six sixty six six, gets he plays with great

1023
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: Now he's a good player. I like him the fourth

1024
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: So I'm with you, all right, we got to go

1025
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: to our last break before we get out of here.

1026
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: Wait we didn't. I got one. I got one for Dane.

1027
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: It's just for Dane, just for Dane. I'm honestly for Dane.

1028
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: I hope that I can stump you. I hope you'll

1029
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: have enough thing for me. Okay, I'm sorry about that.

1030
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about the time. That's all that's on me.

1031
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: He posted a great forty time at UCLA's prote and

1032
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: I want to know more about Devin Fuller wide receiver.

1033
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Payton gets most of the attention, uh

1034
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: and even the tight end. But yeah, if Fuller with

1035
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: that forty time, he's really gonna help himself open some eyes.

1036
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: I was disappointed didn't can see Fuller right the tight

1037
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: end Durante, Yeah, I thought we need There's no way

1038
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: a power of five school is gonna stump thing like

1039
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna know him. I don't know. I wasn't. I

1040
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: really wasn't oppressed with him yet. He's fast, but obviously

1041
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot more things to the receiver position than

1042
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: being fast. But with that type of speed, yeah, wouldn't

1043
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: he's shocked if a team takes a chance on him late.

1044
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: You know a guy that can you know, he's not

1045
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: quite Jordan Payton in terms of as a route runner,

1046
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: runner and catching the ball. But he's got the speed.

1047
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: He's me because I hadn't done him. I have done

1048
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, is are we just talking about

1049
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: speed here? Like howard his hands? Any? I mean any?

1050
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't even get stress now. I don't

1051
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: even care about his special team's abilities because you have

1052
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: Lucky Whitehead to do that if I mean, you know,

1053
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: so if all he is is fast, well, and for

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, you know, you want to

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00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: separate them with their distinguishing traits. And for this guy

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00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: at speed because it's hard to get it's hard to

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Speaker 1: hang his hat on his route, running his hands, you know,

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00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: he's blocking differently. It's it's hard to really say, Okay,

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00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: well that's what he does really well. Speed is really

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Speaker 1: the key to his game and making at the next level. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: Kent Garrison Executive Producer and at this time I will

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Speaker 1: turn the show over to KNT Garrison. We're gonna take

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00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: calls eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven.

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00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: Everybody in the panel is doing great and if you

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00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: get to your question, it will be good to go.

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00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: So you've got it, can't go ahead? All right? Tim

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00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: and DC? You're up? Okay, guys, I've listened to a

1109
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: little bit of the show and may as well start

1110
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: with a populous question, right, And I got a couple

1111
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: other quick ones too, But so the populous question is

1112
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: everybody seems to think Dallas is not going to go

1113
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: QB early. There's questions if at all they're not going

1114
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: to go Ezekiel Elliott early. Although that strategy, when you

1115
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: think about it, makes a lot of sense to me

1116
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: because that helps the defense one heck of a lot

1117
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: if you have a fantastic offense like we did two

1118
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: years ago. So having sell that, knowing that you guys

1119
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: are trending that way and it's what everybody thinks, Jerry

1120
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: and the Red Haired Genius are going to do well.

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00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: Who's the running backs that they're going to target? Is

1122
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: it gonna be that guy Vante Booker Dixon? And on

1123
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback into things? Do you see him going after

1124
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: a developmental prospect in later rounds? Those are the kind

1125
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: of questions I have and and you know, consider this,

1126
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: they could have had David Johnson or Buck Allen last year,

1127
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: both of which proved to be NFL level talents, right,

1128
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: good good running backs. So I don't know that's the progression.

1129
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: I want to hear. What are they gonna do a

1130
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: running back in quarterback? I get that they're going to

1131
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: do all the stuff from defense. I know that's probably

1132
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna eat some of the earlier picks. And

1133
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: then the side note is I heard this last night,

1134
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: literally on the street. I heard the Redskins lifted a

1135
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: scout from the Cowboys office, the front office, somebody, the

1136
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: guy in the second in command behind Will McClay. So

1137
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: I'd love it. Does anybody know the guy's name who

1138
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: that is? Because I can't find it anywhere on the web.

1139
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: I've googled that exhaustively since last night. And this this

1140
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: neighbor of mine works in the Redskin front office, and

1141
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: he says it's fact not fiction. Okay, thank you very much,

1142
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, a lot to digest right there. Yeah, okay,

1143
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: let's cover the the quarterback part of it. Down the line. Guy,

1144
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: I think it would be a mistake to they're not

1145
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarterback at think you can say that

1146
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: I would lean toward no. But like I said, I

1147
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: mean day, they're gonna do their due diligence. And I

1148
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: mean Dak Prescott was a guy that we love to

1149
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: talk about. DUI kind of throws a wrench in that.

1150
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it takes him off the board by

1151
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: any means, No, not at all. Um, it's interesting. I'm

1152
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: just I'm gonna go rapid fire with all eighteen of

1153
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: those issues. But I mean, Randy Gregory's the reason why

1154
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: there wasn't a running back taken lot. I think they

1155
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: like their options at sixty. I think Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson.

1156
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: There was one other guy that I think, who am

1157
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: I forgetting? Not David Johnson. But I think there were

1158
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: two or three guys that they liked at sixty. Yeah,

1159
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: they decided Gregory was too good of an opportunity to

1160
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: pass up. Coleman specifically was gone by the time they

1161
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: came up again. So was so was Johnson. As a

1162
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: matter of fact, they were both gone by the time

1163
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: you get to ninety two. Um, we know they're bringing

1164
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry here. Yeah, that's that's I mean that's interesting

1165
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: to me. I kind of wrote Derrick Henry off. Maybe

1166
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: that was premature, so Zeke I still think is really

1167
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: unlikely unless there's some kind of trade. Derrick Henry's a

1168
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: guy to keep an eye on in the second round.

1169
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: And if not that, then you know you're looking at

1170
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: the third round at the earliest. I would guess which

1171
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: but you I mean, if you're picking at sixty seven,

1172
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: I think anybody but probably Henry and Zeke is in play,

1173
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: right right, So take a good chance of take take

1174
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: your pick whichever Booker Dixon, pro Size, whoever they like

1175
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: the best. That's the route they'll probably go if they

1176
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: If they do that, and I think that's I mean,

1177
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Hellman is laid it out, Yeah, perfectly. I mean I

1178
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: think that's exactly how they're looking. Uh, sixty seven's a

1179
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: sweet spot for running back. And if they do, then yeah,

1180
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Booker Dixon if he's still there, pro Size and those

1181
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: are the names that make the most sense. And I

1182
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: think they all fit this offense. Yeah. Um. And then

1183
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: if they don't in round three then and round four,

1184
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: that's when you know, Jordan Howard maybe, I mean Alex

1185
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: Collins probably be gone. Sure, But I mean, Jonathan Williams

1186
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: is still there could be options. So absolutely they do

1187
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: have some options here if they don't go Henry at

1188
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: thirty four. Un qualities we're talking about. I don't know.

1189
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: I can't predict a lot. I was. I thought they

1190
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: needed a running back last year. They didn't do it

1191
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: because of Gregory. I would I'll put my savings on

1192
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: the line that they will draft a running back at

1193
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: the top one. Yes, I'll go. I'll go out. I

1194
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: think with one of their first all right, I'll even

1195
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: with one of their first five picks, so one up

1196
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: to one thirty five, one of those two, one of

1197
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: those first five picks will be a running back. I'm

1198
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm very very confident. Hold you do that, Okay, all right, down,

1199
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: Well you got kid? All right? Sean in New York, Sean,

1200
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yes, with the number fourth pick. I feel

1201
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: we have so many these needs as a team for

1202
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: a defensident as we know, but as a deep graph

1203
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: we have great coaches, guys, so we should believe in

1204
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: that the fourth pick should be Ezekiel Elliott for him,

1205
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: for him to cover a lot of holes. Any defensive

1206
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: player we pick at four is not going to cover

1207
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: the holes that we have as a team, where Ezekiel,

1208
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: I feel what a couple of more holes that we

1209
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: need because we seem to tind to have success a

1210
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I just said, it seems like

1211
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: the more logic. It don't seem logical because we do

1212
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: a lot of things like the Patrios. You got a

1213
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: cap cap situation under control. We do things. The Patrios

1214
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: do things unconventional. We just need to pick who we like.

1215
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: We've seen Frederick. Everybody gave us hell when we picked

1216
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: him at thirty one. He's our player. Less pick Ezekiel.

1217
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: He'll cover more holes. No defensive player we pick at

1218
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: four is going to cover the holes or make our

1219
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: defense that much better. Okay, thank you, thank you, Sean.

1220
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Would I would disagree because I

1221
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: love Elliott, But there, if you're in the situation right

1222
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: now with what's going on a defensive end, that's yeah,

1223
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 1: that's you cannot you cannot look away from that any longer.

1224
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: If if they got Chris Long or they went and

1225
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: got uh, you know, went and got Adrian Clayborne from Atlanta,

1226
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: I would be all over the And I'm not trying

1227
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: to say to pigeonhole. But we were just talking about earlier,

1228
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: back to back defensive end. You know, I'll go out

1229
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: and say it. It's a critical thing to say. I

1230
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: right now I think they have pigeonholed themselves. Yeah, I

1231
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: don't right now. And you know, free agency is not over.

1232
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: I think they're still talking to Jack Crawford. There's still

1233
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: some guys out there. They were linked to the kid

1234
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: in Oakland, Mayoa. Nothing's done with that. Yeah, that's a

1235
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: restricted guy too. They're still talking to people, so they

1236
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: could add to the Let's say they bring in Jack

1237
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: Crawford and they sign another end, then maybe you can

1238
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: start talking me into something else again. If I know,

1239
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: I've got guys who can start at end while Gregory

1240
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: waits to come back from suspension. Right but right now today,

1241
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: I think they're stuck where they need a pass rusher

1242
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: right quick. They need a guy who can step into

1243
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: the lineup because they got not a yeah and that

1244
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: lad Nada. The whole purpose of free agency is to

1245
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: fill your needs. So in the draft you can go

1246
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: best available. You can just worry about adding talent. And

1247
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are you know, a little bit behind the

1248
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: a ball there but they are you know again, I man,

1249
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: I hate to be the president of the Bosa fan club,

1250
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: but he makes an impact more than just as a

1251
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: as a left end or a right end or wherever

1252
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: you play him. I mean because he helps Lawrence, he

1253
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: takes pressure off of Lawrence. On the other side, I

1254
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: mean he helps the defensive tackles, he helps a secondary.

1255
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: If you know, if he's drawing double teams, well he's

1256
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: taking attention away from someone else. So I mean, I

1257
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: think he impacts more than just plugging a man at

1258
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: defensive end. Can I can? I I'll be a Sunshine

1259
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: pumper for a second. Try to draw a correlation. Here

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Speaker 1: is Joey Bosa a comparable? I mean, it's not even

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Speaker 1: the same side of the ball, but it reminds me

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Speaker 1: of Zach Martin. You got a lot of sexier options.

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Speaker 1: You take a rock solid guy. Obvious, Martin's a two

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Speaker 1: time pro bowler, so maybe that's not fair, but I

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Speaker 1: mean in both, I think you're drafting a guy who

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Speaker 1: can start and play from day one. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: be productive. He's probably not. He's probably not a nineteen

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Speaker 1: or twenty sack guy, and that's why he's not a

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Speaker 1: sexy sounding pick, sure, but I'll take a guy who

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Speaker 1: can start for five at least five, if not eight

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Speaker 1: to ten years. I mean, that's not the end of

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Speaker 1: the world, you know. And I and I'm I'm president

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Speaker 1: of the of the Zeke fan club too, is me?

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Speaker 1: I'm well on the record, Yeah, that's my top guys.

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Speaker 1: If the Cowboys fans made the pick, it would be Zeke.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it, no doubt, there's no about it. Okay, Ken,

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Speaker 1: what do you got Horse in Atlanta? Probably last one?

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Speaker 1: Yere alright, go ahead, Horse. Hey. You know, I've been

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Speaker 1: looking at the Cowboys draft Hit to Resists twenty ten

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Speaker 1: and they have not drafted well. From rounds four on down.

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Speaker 1: Um have scored well, you know, in the U three

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Speaker 1: rounds pretty much, which I don't think is really that

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Speaker 1: difficult to do, but you know, the four rounds below

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Speaker 1: they don't do well. So I'm I'm concerned about them

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Speaker 1: moving down from four and trying to get more picks.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, can they move up to get you know,

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Speaker 1: package some of the smaller picks. There's the later round

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Speaker 1: picks to move up to get higher, better quality players

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Speaker 1: and number two you know, you're all talking about Zeke

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Speaker 1: so much like he's like he's Adrian Peterson, But I

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Speaker 1: don't see. I didn't see him have Adrian Peterson type

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Speaker 1: production in college. So I would not try and draft

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Speaker 1: someone at four like and Adrian Peterson. I would, but

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Speaker 1: not him because he just didn't do what AP did

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Speaker 1: in college. Of course, soon would you take it for

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Speaker 1: we would I take it for right now? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would take either Miles Jack or Ramsey. Okay, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, appreciate your call. Man. Well, and he's not

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Speaker 1: Adrian Peter somebody you know that's not who should be

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Speaker 1: compared to. I mean, I and he had back to

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Speaker 1: back eighteen hundred yard seasons. It's not like production was

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Speaker 1: an issue. I see more of a Frank Gore type

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Speaker 1: of player, which is, you know, a heck of a

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Speaker 1: career if he ends up like that. But he has

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Speaker 1: a point about not hitting on some of these day

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Speaker 1: three picks in recent years. Oh that's true, hadn't been pretty.

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Speaker 1: It's something that Orlando Scandrick was a five. They need

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Speaker 1: more like that. Yeah, And that's that's about it. That's

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Speaker 1: a big reason for the depth issues right now is

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Speaker 1: because they haven't hit on those later round picks, so

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Speaker 1: it's something that they need to get better on in

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Speaker 1: this draft. But I don't think that means you just

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Speaker 1: punt on Day three. I think it means you just

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Speaker 1: you try your best to get better at it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I will say this if he's concerned about trading back,

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Speaker 1: if you're trading back from four, you're getting premium picks.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting day three picks. I mean, if they

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Speaker 1: were to trade back day two picks fifteen, you're getting

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Speaker 1: second and third round picks, right, which I feel entirely

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Speaker 1: comfortable letting them use those picks because they've nailed them

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Speaker 1: over the last four or five years. Right. I can't

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Speaker 1: argue that the you know, five to seven has not

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Speaker 1: been pretty these last few years. But we're right, you're

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Speaker 1: right about that. What are you gonna do? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's all the time we have for today. Thank everybody

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Speaker 1: for joining us. We appreciate your tweets, your calls, all

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Speaker 1: those things that keep our show going. We appreciate the

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Speaker 1: interaction you have with us every day on Twitter as well.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Dame Burglar, David Hellman, KNT gears

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Speaker 1: someone to thank the guys back in the back. I

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Speaker 1: want to want to thank Dave and those guys Scott

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Speaker 1: Pursell and my guy Blake for all they do for

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Speaker 1: putting the show together for so we will be back

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Speaker 1: next week for the Draft show. Take care of. This

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