1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Ah, here we go. It is a Tuesday. I'm still 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: floating feet barely touching the ground. Look at Sam Darnold, 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, and Disneyland, the happiest place on Earth, the 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: happiest people on earth. It is great to have you in. 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: A lot of people think, oh, there's football season in America. 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Then waiting for football season. I don't buy it. Fascinating 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: story happening in the NBA and college basketball. But I 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: want to start about something because yesterday I'm kind of, 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, perusing the internet all day. I took a 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: chill day. It's a big weekend and I'm seeing a 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: lot of this. Sam Donald didn't do anything in that 20 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and you are right. He did not throw 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: a pick, He did not look nervous, he did not 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: get rattled, he did not have a fumble and he 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: did not take multiple sacks. You're right, I'm wrong. He 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: didn't do anything for the record, the last eight Super 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: Bowl winning quarterbacks only one through for over three hundred yards. Mahomes. 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: I thought Kyle Shanahan nailed it on the pregame show. 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: When you're as good as Seattle is, you play by 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: different rules. Yeah, Sam's a stud, and you know, us 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: having him for a year, I think we get a 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: little too much credit for what we did. We didn't 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: do anything for him. We just gave him a platform 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: to where we could take the pressure off him for 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: a year. And I think him watching that, Sam's all 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: let it rips. But when you let it rip all 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the time and you're always trying to win the game 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: a lot of times, you keep both teams in the game. 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's really what's changed with him. He 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: picks and chooses better. He's got a really good team, 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: and when you have a really good team, you don't 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: always have to try to win it. That's right. Sam 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: Darnold in the playoffs did not have a turnover for 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: a month. Seven hundred yards, five tds, no picks, and scrambled. 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: That is exceptional quarterback play. Do you know the two 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: Super Bowls were Brady threw for the most yards. He 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: lost one and fell behind twenty eight to three in 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: the other and needed the greatest, most miraculous catch of 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: his career Julian Edelman in Atlanta to win that one. Oh, 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: let me remind you that Drake may set an NFL 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: Super Bowl quarterback record this past Sunday. Drake May threw 50 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: for more yards than any quarterback in a single quarter 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: in NFL history. Did you know that? Two hundred and 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: thirty five in the fourth. Just think he played well. 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: Sam darn didn't get in the way. And let's be 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: totally honest. Why you have this opinion? Men are very 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: proud animals. We are very proud. You thought Sam Donald 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: was a bust. You were proved wrong, and you don't 57 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: want to admit it publicly. That's why everybody always talks 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: about you. Ever go into the internet. Rigged? Rigged? Now 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: you lost a bet, your team lost. If the NFL 60 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: is rigged, they're doing a terrible job. Mahomes, Joe Burrow, 61 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Matt Stafford. We're not in the 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Sam Donald and Drake Mayworth the NFL is 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: doing a horrible job of rigging it. So football is 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the ultimate complimentary sport. And when you have a stacked roster, 65 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: not having a turnover for a month is exceptional. Quarterback 66 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: play audibling into stuff that works and out of trouble. 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: So you can tell me Donald didn't do anything, and 68 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: I will push back by your right. No fumbles, not 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: multiple sacks, never rattled, no interceptions, didn't do any of 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: those things. Drake made it all of them. So you 71 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: know I like Donald, and you also know I like analytics. 72 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: But I think this is something that I'm not sure 73 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: people realize this. For years on this show, I've talked 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: about analytics not analytics. Football is much closer to UFC 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: than it is a math class. It has a regulated 76 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: level of violence and sometimes tough wins, tougher wins, intimidation wins. 77 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: Analytics don't prove any of it. So Seattle does not 78 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: go for it on fourth downs. In fact, the three 79 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: teams that went forward in the NFL the fewest times 80 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: on fourth down, the Seahawks won the super Bowl. If 81 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: Bonix doesn't get hurt, Denver's probably in the super Bowl, 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: and the Texans, and there was a moment in this game, 83 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: late second quarter, fourth and five for Seattle and they 84 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: chose to punt, and analytics said it's a go either 85 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: way decision. Seahawks led six to nothing. They brought on 86 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: the league's most highly paid punter, any Pin New England. 87 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: Deep analytics said it's a go either way and as 88 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: I watched it, my takeaways, No, it's not. It's one 89 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: hundred percent punt because New England couldn't move the ball, 90 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: why would you give them a field position break. Their 91 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: longest drive was twenty eight yards. You don't give struggling 92 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: offenses the break and the life preserver they need. That's 93 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: one hundred percent punt. Secondly, it's not like the Seahawks 94 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: were dominating on big offensive downs. The Patriots defense got tired, 95 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: but for the first quarter and a half they were excellent. 96 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: I mean JSN was invisible. Nobody could stop him all 97 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: year Patriots did. And the third thing, Seattle went a 98 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: month with no turnovers and a defense creating points. You 99 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: punt the ball, winning the game, not winning arguments on 100 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: the internet is the key to football. Too many people 101 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: want to go on the internet and sound smart. Do 102 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: you realize the last three Super Bowl champions each kicked 103 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: four field goals in their respective Super Bowls. Take the 104 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: points if you are exceptional anywhere, if you have a 105 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: significantly better defense. The Chiefs from twenty twenty two to 106 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four had an exceptional defense, Deeve Spagnola exceptional defense. 107 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: They won two Super Bowls. They appeared in three Super Bowls. 108 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: Do you know where they were on going forward and 109 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: fourth down? Second fust? In the league? You know who 110 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: went for it a lot, The Jets and the Titans. 111 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: The Dodgers aren't winning the World Series because of analytics. 112 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: They've got more money and a smarter GM, and they 113 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: buy better players. Everybody talks about analytics in the NBA. 114 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City is the dominant team in the sport. They're 115 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: middle of the pack. Oklahoma City is built on defense 116 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: and one exceptional score and a great GM and coach. 117 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: They're not winning with three pointers. Seattle is so extraordinarily 118 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: uniquely coached and deep special teams defense. They don't play 119 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: by the same rules everybody does. You don't go for 120 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: it on fourth and five. That's not a go either 121 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: way call. That's a pin Drake made deep. They can't 122 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: put first downs together, Pin him deep. Take the points. Nine. 123 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Nothing felt like twenty four, nothing six, nothing felt like fourteen, 124 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: nothing like. Football is much closer to UFC than math class. Sometimes, 125 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: intimidation tough getting into the psyche or the head of 126 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 1: your opponents. Drake May is an accurate thrower. You watched 127 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: him in that game. He was intimidated. He didn't get 128 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: he didn't want to get hit. Drake May was rattled, 129 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: he was nervous, he was intimidated. That doesn't show up 130 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: in analytics. Pin him deep. Here's Sam Darnold on not 131 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: carrying the load and field goals in the Super. 132 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: Bowl because of the guys in the locker room, because 133 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: of our coaching staff working their butts off every single day, 134 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 4: Like you know, that's why we're all here, you know. 135 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 5: Offense again, didn't I feel like we didn't. 136 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Play as good as we could have. 137 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 5: I certainly didn't play as good as I could have. 138 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: But our defense out her back, our special teams out 139 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: are back, and we got the win. 140 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not anti analytics, and not everybody can play 141 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: by Seattle or Denver's rules, but all year long, Denver 142 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: was a remarkable fourth quarter team, and I think Sean 143 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: Payton's feeling was our defense is so exceptional. We're gonna 144 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: take the points. We're gonna end drives, We're gonna punt, 145 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: We're not gonna take big risks. I will open up 146 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: the playbook in the fourth quarter. I will take more risks. 147 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Some do our demise in the fourth quarter. But there 148 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: are teams in this league this year, like Denver and 149 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Houston and Seattle going for it makes no sense. Kansas 150 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: City for a three year period with Spags defense, they 151 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: never went oh Andy Reid Mahomes. They rarely went for it. 152 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: Then go for it. Why, I know everybody loves math. Okay, 153 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times in this sport, momentum is huge, 154 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: and Seattle's defense was in Drake May and Josh McDaniel 155 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: head don't let him off the hook, Jmac last night, 156 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: a refreshing Lebron James coming out and admitting we're not 157 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: very good. Did you hear that? 158 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 5: I did hear that? Yeah? They played great against ok See, 159 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: fell down the. 160 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: Stretch struggle SGA. 161 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 5: Neither did Luca. You know Austin Reeves coming off the 162 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 5: bench still on a minute. 163 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be nice to watch an NBA game and 164 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: the stars play. 165 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, man, it's a long season. Eighty two games. 166 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: What do you watch? Funny because I watched the Super 167 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: Bowl and all the starters were playing and they tackle 168 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: each other. 169 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a four month season. He played seventeen 170 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: games versus eighty two. Come on, wait, what are you 171 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: bagging on the NBA for it? 172 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: Come on? 173 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Love to see the stars occasionally show up you Charles 174 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: Barkley here, what's going on? 175 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 5: Come on? 176 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: It was a great game last night? All right? 177 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 178 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 179 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 180 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: Steve Gott's here. I have a podcast Empire. 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Nobody really plays 203 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: defense in the NBA, right, So, like everybody's kind of 204 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: average defensively, except the really great teams like you know, 205 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: like San Antonio Detroit, OK See, they're great defensive teams, 206 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: but they even turn it up a notch in the postseason. 207 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: And the NBA officials swallowed their whistles in the postseason. 208 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: So defense matters a lot in the NBA, not now, 209 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: So the Lakers are fools gold in the regular season. 210 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: Nobody plays defense they're terrible at it, but you don't 211 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: really notice because nobody ratchets it's up. So I'm reading 212 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: the La Times two days ago here in La and 213 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: watching the Lakers last night, and a couple of days ago. 214 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: The La Times readers they're smart. They know what the 215 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: problem is. Every single letter to the editor about the 216 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: Lakers was we're not very good tosily. In fact, we're atrocious. 217 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: The Laker fans know the problem. They've watched a lot 218 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: of great basketball. When they had Magic is their star, 219 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: they had Kareem and Michael Cooper, when the Warriors had 220 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Steph is their star. They have Andre Iguidala, they have 221 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: Draymond Green. If your best player Luca is a great 222 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: offensive player but tremendously limited, often hunted on defense, you 223 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: got to surround him with help. Rob Polinka has the 224 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: opposite issue. He has built an offensive roster where all 225 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: the best players are below average Defensively. Lebron used to 226 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: be great, but now he's old. So I think Laker 227 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: fans know the issue. They don't know the size of 228 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: the wrecking ball. Needed you keep Luca and JJ Reddick. 229 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: Everything else the bench is atrocious athletically, they are the 230 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: slowest team in the league. The slow you can measure 231 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: that now, So they're slow. The defensively they're not athletic. 232 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: They don't have enough three point shooters. They have arguably 233 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: the worst bench in the league. But again, you have 234 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: a great young offensive coach and a superstar. You got 235 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: to build this team differently, and you got to get 236 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: off this Austin Reeves. Everything is on the table after 237 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Luca and JJ Reddick, everything Austin Reeves last night. Do 238 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: you see what Okase did? They hunted him and players 239 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: shot fifty percent when Austin Reeves guarded them. There'll be 240 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: some dope EGM in the league that thinks this guy 241 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. 242 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: Get picks, move people. He's a nice player. But when 243 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: lucas your star, if you have Austin Reeves next to him, 244 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: now you got two suboptimal defenders. So the three best 245 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: teams in this league are the three best defensive teams 246 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: in this league. Okase, San Antonio and Detroit. So defense matters, 247 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: and Laker fans are smart, they really are, and so 248 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: is Lebron. They just don't have enough athletes. They don't 249 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: have enough sh shooters. They don't have enough rim protection. 250 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: So but in the regular season, where nobody's playing elite 251 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: defense consistently, you can fool people as oh man, they're 252 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: really in the playoffs. In fact, I would say once 253 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: the trade deadline's done in about a month, you'll start 254 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: watching the defense as people worry about seating. It's like, oh, 255 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: the league changes. Then you can see a clear gap 256 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: between the Lakers and Okasee. Last night, Oka see on 257 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: the road they got a flu on the team SGA's 258 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: not playing. They still shot almost forty nine percent from 259 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: the field. But Lebron after brutally honest, and he knows 260 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: basketball and has been in this league for twenty plus years. 261 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: Do you want me to compare us to them? 262 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: No, I want to know where you thinking out to 263 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: vent Blake. If you sort of as this team is on, it's. 264 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Like, that's a championship team right there. 265 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: We're not. 266 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: We're so Werner saying, what. 267 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 5: Are the biggest things you think that are keeping this. 268 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: Team has this? 269 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 6: I can't sustain energy and that for forty eight minutes 270 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: and they care. 271 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: That's why I want a championship. Okac is the Seahawks. 272 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: They've drafted better. They're better upstairs. They've got waves of players. 273 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean, New England's defense is good, but you saw 274 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: them at the end of the second quarter. The Patriots 275 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: look tired and Seattle never did because Seattle has waves 276 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: of depth that New England is still a draft away 277 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: from developing. And so Seahawks and OKAC are very similar. 278 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: People may not always love their star quarterback and their 279 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: star player who's seeking the whistle, but in the end, 280 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: there's layers and layer That's why playing Oklahoma City, especially 281 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: late in the season, is so valuable a measuring stick 282 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you we're about a month to six 283 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: weeks away from NBA teams caring about defense, like even 284 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: in the first quarter, and that's when you can really 285 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: see the holes in this roster. And Rob Polinka has 286 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: created a fight team, a good offensive team. I like 287 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: watching the Lakers play, but I don't think anybody understands 288 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: the wrecking ball. This thing needs jmak with the news. 289 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Turn on the news. 290 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 291 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: All right, We'll be to the NBA shortly, but let's 292 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 3: start with this Super Bowl collin interesting nugget here from 293 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: Devin Witherspoon. The great defensive back from the Seahawks. Obviously, 294 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: Seattle's defense dominated the Super Bowl for his three turnovers, 295 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 3: sack Drake May six times. But they saw a tell 296 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: defensively and pounced on it. 297 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 5: Here's Witherspoon. 298 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 7: We kind of knew what they was gonna do, how 299 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 7: they was gonna attack us, and how they was going 300 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 7: to get feature who certain people the ball. So we 301 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 7: had a great game plan like that. We kind of 302 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 7: knew how they tackled and guards were gonna say it 303 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 7: in certain pass protetions, and we went out there and 304 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 7: attacked it. You know, they was kind of struggling in 305 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 7: his playoffs a couple of times, you know, a couple 306 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 7: of people got out the room. So we knew what 307 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 7: he was going to do and how we were going 308 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 7: to tack them. 309 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: Antel like in poker, there's a tell something they do. 310 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: Yeah that nobody in New England's aware of. They have 311 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: to scout themselves, but Seattle could call their own defensive plays. 312 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: In the last second, there was a tall Well, I'll 313 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: tell you this left tackle needs to be upgraded. 314 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: Oh boy, Will Campbell getting roasted on the internet forgetting 315 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: just an embarrassing performance. I know that they're saying maybe 316 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: he was injured. He had some knee thing. Yeah, interesting, 317 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: how convenient. Remember he was may got a shot after 318 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: the game. We heard nothing about it in the days. 319 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: Wait and remember, fairness to Will Campbell, he was came 320 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: in with arm length issues. It was one of the 321 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: weaker drafts in the last decade. He was a serviceable 322 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: left tackle. It's very possible that you move him inside 323 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: her to right tackle and he could have he could flourish. 324 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: In all fairness, he also faced the Texans Khalil Mack. 325 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, if you start looking at I mean the Broncos, 326 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: not Khalil Mack. I think he's on the other side. 327 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure right now. Chargers, Yeah, Chargers, but I 328 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: mean he faced four or five of the best pass 329 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: rushers in the sport and got gobbled up. 330 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 7: Yeah. 331 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: Also to line just got obliterate. They need to fix 332 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: that short up in the offseason. 333 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: But they got money. 334 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 3: They're gonna be fine. I don't think they're going back 335 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, would you agree? 336 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 337 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're gonna be really good. I don't 338 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: think because there's like a Dan Marino thing. Remember Dan 339 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: Marino goes to the Super Bowl year too. Everybody's like, oh, 340 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: Marina's good. Never got back and with Don Shula the 341 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: winning his coach in league history, if I gave. 342 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: Over under half another super Bowl appeared. 343 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: Well, Drake may get back. I think you'll get back 344 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl, absolutely, But I think the AFC 345 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: was weird. Kansas City had a rare down year, Baltimore 346 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: had a rare down year. I mean, it burrow all 347 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: of us, you know, And I think you and I 348 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: both believe that Denver and the Chargers are both better 349 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: next year. I mean, I think the Chargers are gonna Look. 350 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: If bo Nix isn't missing that game, they probably beat 351 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: the Patriots in a very fairriside. 352 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: So like, I'm not I know, Patriots fans, you're a hater. No, 353 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 5: I'm being a realist. Your schedule was a joke, and 354 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 5: you looked off on the postseason. 355 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the NBA. Colin, Listen, this 356 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: was kind of ugly last night. Piston's Hornets. Hornets are hot. 357 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: They had won nine straight and then this happened. Jalen 358 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: Duran backing down the moose, they go face to face. 359 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 3: Duran MUSHes him and it was on and popping. Oh 360 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 3: my goodness, swings. I mean, this got ugly. And then 361 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 3: Miles Bridges jumps in as you'll see here. And then 362 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: after he does that, you know, Isaiah Stewart aka beef 363 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: ste gets involved. This was hearkening back to the days 364 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: of the Detroit bad Boy Pistons. 365 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: That's what this feels like. 366 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: Hey, Detroit is a good watch and they are a 367 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: good team, pretty good number right now. Okay, drafted and developed, 368 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: they've done it the okay, see way, not flashy, good 369 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: GM draft and develop. You know, we watched them last 370 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: year and what do we say, last year they're a 371 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: year away. They don't know how to win yet, well 372 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: they do now. I kind of like the attitude. 373 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: Interesting look at that. Miles Bridge is saying, oh, you 374 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: stepping on my guy, Miles Bridges. Of course I want 375 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: you like this. I want my NBA teams to care. 376 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: How about you could care but not throw punches. Let 377 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: me Duncan Robinson's like, come on, what. 378 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: Do I don't don't love I mean most of these 379 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: NBA guys, I mean they talk a big game, but 380 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: they you know, yeah, I don't You don't want this, man, 381 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: I don't want it, but it's not the end of 382 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: the world. I like my teammate defending my guys. I'm 383 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: just saying, I don't think it's the end of the world. 384 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: I think it is. The NBA, because of the malice 385 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: in the palace, is terrified of this stuff. 386 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, this doesn't look good, man. It was great NBA 387 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 5: game last night. 388 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Baseball teams fight, NFL teams fight. 389 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: We make fun of that stuff. They go in, morons 390 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 3: charging the mound, idiot hockey. 391 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: Why guys a couple of times a year fight Now 392 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: the fans are clounes. What do you think they're in 393 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: the NFL? Children? 394 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: Morons throwing punches on guys with helmets in the NFL. 395 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: That's even dubber. Listen, you go watch an NFL training 396 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: camp when you have two days of Ravens playing Commanders, 397 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: multiple multiple, Yeah, I mean this is pro sports. Detroit 398 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: is trying to set an agenda. You're not gonna play 399 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: around with us. 400 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: Okay, hey, just Detroit, be ready somebody roughs up Kid 401 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: Cunningham in a postseason because you guys are acting like this, 402 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: be ready for it, because I'm telling you they're gonna 403 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: come head hunting for Kid Cunningham. He's like the only 404 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: guy Detroit has offensively. 405 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 5: I like the Pistons as a regular season team. 406 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, Knicks are better. Their knicks are coming out 407 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: of the East. You want to put some cheddar on 408 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: that we can. It ain't gonna be the Pistons. Sorry, guys, 409 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: final story, we're sticking in the NBA. Juicy Scoopier Colin. 410 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: So the Dallas Mavericks. Obviously, Mark Cuban had sold his 411 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: portion of the team back and then to Patrick Dumont 412 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. 413 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: Will reports. 414 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: You're indicating that a Dallas investment group wants to pair 415 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: with Cuban and buy back the team, largely because Patrick 416 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: Dumont is such a disaster as owner of the Mavericks. 417 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: Well, that was a weird I mean, listen, Cuban was 418 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: brilliant to sell it. Okay, but this happens a lot. 419 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: You sell a company and then you leave the company 420 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: and the company's a wreck because you are a huge 421 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: component to the suctions. 422 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: You guys just don't care as much. 423 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: They don't. I would love to see Mark Bia. 424 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: Can you imagine letting Luka Doncics go. That's how it 425 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 3: showed the guy doesn't care. 426 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 5: He trusted the dude. 427 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 3: Nico Harrison has been fired. I think he's working at 428 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: Outback Steakhouse right now in Dallas. 429 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: Do we have to take shots? 430 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. 431 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: I mean, bottom line is he ruined everything. And I'll 432 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: say this, Cooper Flag is amazing, and you know that 433 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: he is the future of this league. Is he is? 434 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 5: He needs good ownership. 435 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: I've never seen a nineteen year old as complete as 436 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: Cooper Flag. He has literally no elite defender, great size, 437 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: aggressive catch and shoot, handle the ball, play points, slash 438 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: floaters TV. He's got like a twenty eight year old game. 439 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's amazing. 440 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: He is ama amazing player. 441 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: You know Adam Silver. 442 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: I haven't spoken to Adam Silver. 443 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: He'll be out here obviously for All Star festivities. I'm 444 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: guessing he would like Mark Cuban back in the league 445 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: because Mark Cuban is an aggressive owner. He's passionate, He's 446 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: sit front row at every game, cares deeply, and I 447 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 3: think he would be a good steward for Coopers. 448 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: I just want to see Cooper Flag get good teammates. Yeah, 449 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: I just want to see him get his guy roster 450 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: right now. I think because the well, the NBA makes 451 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: trading difficult. 452 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: I don't like that they did that. 453 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: Listen, we both like Adam Soil. First of all, stop 454 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: being paralyzed with tanking. It's happening now. A third of 455 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: the league's tanking. If you want a tank, you can 456 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: get over it. I mean, it's just like you can't 457 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: there's certain things you can't stop speeding in America. So 458 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: raise the speed limit. People are going to go sixty 459 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: five driving home in the four zero five. They're not 460 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: going to go fifty five. They want to get home 461 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: and see their kids. Stop it. They'll be paralyzed by it. 462 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: Faster doesn't mean more accidents, strangely, because cars are built 463 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: better now than they were in the fifties, sixty seventies, eighties. 464 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: The second thing is stop worrying about tanking. The bottom 465 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: line is you want bad teams to get good. Let 466 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: him get the last year's draft. This year's draft. 467 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: I want. 468 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: I want Utah because Utah looks like they're not interested 469 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: in winning a title. I want to see him get 470 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: the kid from Kansas. That's a great basketball community. And 471 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: and so that's the number one thing. The second thing 472 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: is they make trading very difficult in the NBA. The 473 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: reason you can go from four and thirteen to fourteen 474 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: and three. In the NFL, you can go buy and 475 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: trade players all the time, and so like I I like, 476 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I like the NBA, but it's so hard to go 477 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: from bad to good. NFL you can do it in 478 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: six months. 479 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you could say, OKAC had Durant and Westbrook 480 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: and Harden then went to the bottom just to chet Holmgreda. 481 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: The Celtics and the OKC thunder didn't really bottom out. 482 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: Why because they have brilliant GMS. 483 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: Well okay says they sank. They didn't bought them out. 484 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: Detroit bottomed out. Detroit was horrible for fifteen years, got 485 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: Kate Cunningham and now they're the number one. But like, 486 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: you do need that superstar. And that's the problem with 487 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: the Lakers. You know, we can get to them later, 488 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 3: but like Lakers, they just want a title five years ago. 489 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: It's tough to stay on top and you're not drafting 490 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: at the top. 491 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: They got no good young players. 492 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: They don't have a single elite defend he's got. 493 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: Eight that's an issue. 494 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh. 495 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks 496 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: for stopping. That's the lie. 497 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: I ope top of next hour, five up, five down, 498 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Five teams that will absolutely, inarguably better be better next year. 499 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: And it's not all just wins and record. They'll look better, 500 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: they'll feel better, they'll be in the right direction. Five 501 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: up and five down, and some of the five downs 502 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: are good teams now, but they've caught brakes, their divisions 503 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: getting tougher, they're pulling back. You know, you listen yesterday 504 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: and Sunday. Everybody is beating up on Drake May and 505 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to add perspective here because he seems like 506 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: a nice kid. So Drake May face Seattle and Houston's defenses, 507 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: the two best defenses in the NFL. They look different, 508 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: and between the two we got sack to eleven times 509 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: and had six turnovers in the passer rating of eighty seven. 510 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: It was bad, But I want to remind everybody that 511 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: one year ago Sam Darnald faced the Rams in the playoffs, 512 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: horrible protection and Donald was sacked nine times, two turnovers 513 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: and a passer rating in the seventies. A year later, 514 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: Sam Darnald is great. A year later, Sam Darnald a 515 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: month ago faced the Rams three touchdowns, no picks, three 516 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: hundred and forty six yards, one hundred and twenty eight 517 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: passer rating. So for the record, New England plays the 518 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks next year regular season. Don't be shocked if Drake 519 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: May they upgrade and buy a left tackle, they move 520 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: Will Campbell inside. And that's one of the great things 521 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: about the NFL. Every six months, I mean you've seen 522 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: massive changes. Go look at the Chicago Bears operation. Three 523 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: weeks after Ben Johnson took over. It was like the 524 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: language changed, the attitude changed. I mean, I could make 525 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: an argument the best team in the NFL was Seattle, 526 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: the second best team was the Rams. The third best 527 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: team at the end of the year. Am I wrong? 528 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: It was either Denver the Bears. The Rams had to 529 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: play a perfect game offensively in Chicago to beat the 530 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: Bears in overtime, But the Bears were a circus a 531 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: year ago the Patriots four and thirteen to fourteen and three. 532 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: So Drake May faces the Seahawks probably early. They'll probably 533 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: that could be your first Thursday game. And don't be 534 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: surprised if they upgrade the offensive line. He's one hundred 535 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: percent healthy. So outside of Matt Stafford, the Seahawks defense 536 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: made a lot of good quarterbacks look totally inept. Here's 537 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: how good Seattle's defense was. Twice in a three week period, 538 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: they made Christian McCaffrey invisible. Invisible four times in seven 539 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: eight years has Kyle Shanahan been totally stymied. Two of 540 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: the four times were against Seattle. This year. They made 541 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people not named Matt Stafford look inept. 542 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: So starting quarterbacks against the Seahawks this season, including the playoffs, 543 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: if you take Stafford out, had seventeen touchdowns twenty one 544 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: picks in a passer rating at seventy four. If you 545 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: just take out Stafford, well, Drake May is not its 546 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: Stafford's level right now, especially with their leaking left packle 547 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: LEFTO line space. So it just defending Drake May what 548 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: makes this league great. Sam Darnold one year ago was 549 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: atrocious a against the Rams because he got sack nine times, 550 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: and Seattle upgrades. You know that minute I was Minnesota. 551 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: Then he goes to Seattle. He's got a better defense, 552 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: he's got a better defensive coach. He's got JSN I 553 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: mean the left side of the offensive line. Gray's Abel 554 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: Charles Cross, He's got Walker, the running back, and all 555 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Sam is like Ough facing the Rams 556 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: played his best game as a pro. I think against 557 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: the Rams last time he faced them. Oh coming up next. 558 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: People are freaking out because the best college basketball player 559 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: arguably is never available. He's missed eleven of twenty four 560 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: games for Kansas. They won despite his absence last night 561 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: over a really good Arizona team. I'd probably pick today 562 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: to win it all. But should you draft him? What 563 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: do you do with him? He's never available because he 564 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: loved basketball. That's next. 565 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: Sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays and 566 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: neon Eastern not a em Pacific Tonight. 567 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: On FS one. 568 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: It's a huge college basketball tripleheader. First thirteenth rank Perdue 569 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: takes on seventh rank Nebraska at seven Eastern, then fifth 570 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: ranked Iowa faces TCU at nine, and in the Mountain West, 571 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: San Jose State battles UNLV at eleven. 572 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: It all tips off tonight on FS one. So the 573 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: upcoming NBA draft will be pretty special. It's got three 574 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: or four great players won at BYU one at Duke, 575 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: and Darren Peterson plays for Kansas. He looked. He is 576 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: the closest looking player I've seen to Kobe Bryant. He's 577 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: a jump off the television player. They played Arizona last night. 578 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: It was in Lawrence, Kansas, and Kansas won, but Peterson 579 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: didn't play, so a huge win for Kansas. Arizona's outstanding 580 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Peterson didn't play. In fact, he's missed eleven of their 581 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: twenty four starts cramping. Last night he had flu and 582 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of concern. WHOA I'm hearing this. 583 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: WHOA. 584 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: You can't draft this guy. The NBA makes trading difficult. 585 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: The NFL does not. If you can get a Kobe 586 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Bryant level athlete, you draft him. Okay, it is a 587 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: three and D league. He is a long wing who 588 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: can shoot threes. He's basically what everybody in the league 589 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: needs more of except maybe OKC, Lakers need four of him. Okay, 590 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: you draft him. I remember years ago Christian McCaffrey skipped 591 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: the Sun Bowl and people are like, WHOA, hey, you 592 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: gotta show up for your team. It was the Sun 593 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: Bowl and he was a transformational running back talent. You 594 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: draft Christian McCaffrey if he's available, one of the most 595 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 1: talented guys that's ever played position. You draft him when 596 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 1: it comes to sports and music and entertainment. These are 597 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: not like punch the clock working class jobs. You got 598 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: some drama, you got some high maintenance. You've got a 599 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of different things that aren't involved in most of 600 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: our jobs. A dentist and an accountant do not have 601 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: the personality of Bruno mars Okay to be that creative 602 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: and that unique. It gonna be a different cat. Athletes 603 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: are the same. They can be sometimes kind of lobsided, 604 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: a little overly dramatic, whatevs. The kids special you draft 605 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: him like, there's just some things that you have to 606 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: deal with. Like if you live in Arizona, you need 607 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: a pool. It's not going to elevate, it's going to 608 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: be expensive. You'll have to resurface it, it may leak. 609 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: The maintenance is a pain in the butt buck and 610 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: you'll never ever paint in the butt. You'll never get 611 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: your money back on a pool. You'll get it back 612 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: on a kitchen. You'll get it back on your bathrooms. 613 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: You'll never get the money back on a pool. But 614 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: if you live in Arizona, you gotta have one. And 615 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: if you're in the NBA, you gotta have this kid 616 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: can shoot threes, can handle the ball insanely athletic, probably 617 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: gets better defense defensively. Not everybody's Cooper Flag. In fact, 618 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: not anybody else is Cooper Flag. Where you're nineteen years 619 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: old and you don't even have a flaw, like you're 620 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: completely fully formed. So well, he's not always available, he's 621 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: had cramping and guys skipped bowl games. Doesn't make it right. 622 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: It's not a make it right decision. It's a that 623 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: is exactly what we need. And there's nobody like him 624 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: in the sport. I would make him the number one pick. 625 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: I just I don't he It's funny. I was told 626 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: before the season, you gotta see this kid for Kansas. 627 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: In fact, I forget who told me, and I said, okay. 628 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: I watched four possessions and I was like, oh my god, 629 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: it's like Kobe Bryant. And then I went online and 630 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's it's it's it's an obvious one. 631 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: You draft him. You build a pool in Arizona. It 632 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it costs. It's one hundred and twenty 633 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: in the summer. Get a pool. Draft that guy. Here's 634 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: Bill self on the Kidnap playing last night and still winning. 635 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 6: Well, we don't know if it's the fluids flu like symptoms, 636 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 6: at least that's what I've been told. So he didn't 637 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 6: practice yesterday, but we were hoping he could play today, 638 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 6: and uh, you know, he came out for shooting around 639 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 6: and was able to go. I thought I dread one 640 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: would kick in and he would go so and and uh, 641 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 6: you know he was that shooting around today. I mean, 642 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 6: he was out there and you know, but just what 643 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 6: you could just tell he didn't feel great, but we 644 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 6: were all hopeful that he would kick in and and 645 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 6: and be ready to go. So you sound like you 646 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 6: bet on the game so so uh but uh but no, 647 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 6: there was no ploy with that at all. 648 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Jmack who is betting Dukene basketball games and 649 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: unders on a regular basis. The kid at BYU hyperathletic. 650 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: This kid feels more refined boozer at Duke, feels ready 651 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: to play immediately. But I don't know how you could 652 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: talk yourself. He is what the league is looking for, 653 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: athletic wings who can shoot threes, that's exactly, and defend 654 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: and defend. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how great 655 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: of a defender is. 656 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: It's hard now he ate up Debanza from BYU a 657 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 3: couple weeks ago in a head to head matchup. 658 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 2: Okay, he was great in the first half. 659 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 660 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: I think you got to take Peterson. I remember I 661 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: had a guy on my podcast, these draft analysts ahead 662 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 3: of Anthony Edwards LA mellow Ball Draft, and this guy 663 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 3: was saying, listen, Anthony Edwards is a lot of teams 664 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: saying he doesn't love basketball. He said that is he 665 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: devouring tape. And Anthony Edwards is publicly like, I don't 666 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 3: watch tape. I like football, like I like a lot 667 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: of activities. Sounds a lot like Trevor Lawrence. Remember the 668 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: knocks against him? 669 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: Are you still Trevor Lawrence is so skilled? That's Jackson. 670 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: You get him lean comb and you're like a playoff team, 671 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: So like you can't Yeah, I couldn't do that at 672 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: my job. You don't have a forty seven inch vertical. 673 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: Totally different. It's just And the other thing is he's 674 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: at a position that's very necessary. Like Ben Simmons when 675 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: he came out and it didn't work out. But Ben 676 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: Simmons was a six nine and a half point guard 677 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: who defended, scored at the rim and we couldn't shoot, 678 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: and he had an attitude. But I talked to two 679 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: executives in the league, two scouts, and they're like, that's 680 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: as good a prospect he for the record, didn't he 681 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: make an All Star Game the first year he made 682 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: All NBA, Like he was a really good I'll forget this. 683 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: He made All NBA and then he didn't, and then 684 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: he went sideways. You still draft somebody because the NFL 685 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: allows you. You can trade anybody anytime. You could have 686 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: traded Tom Brady in your prime. You could trade Joe 687 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: Burrow tomorrow. That's not the NBA. So it's very I mean, 688 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: how long is it going to be until the Washington 689 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: Wizards are good. It's been it feels like thirty years. 690 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: And they had John Wall and they've had good players 691 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: and Baanley Beal and they're never good. In the NFL. 692 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: The minute the Bears get the right coach, they keep 693 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: the same owners, the same president, the same GM, they 694 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,479 Speaker 1: have the same quarterback. They just bringing a head coach. 695 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: You're like, are they the fourth or fifth best team 696 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: in the league? So that's not the NBA. You just 697 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You can be pick here. I mean 698 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL, Brock perties the last player taken in 699 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 1: the NBA. This is a very good draft. You get 700 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: to about the fourteenth pick and it's a prospect. You're 701 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: kind of projecting on what that it's probably a rotational player. 702 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: Even this is a really good draft. The last draft 703 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: was good. But after Ace Bailey in this last draft, 704 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: and there'll be some guys that poss but there were 705 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: about five guys you're like, yeah, those guys are gonna 706 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: be great players. And then like six through twelve you're like, 707 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: those should be very good players. And then you're projecting. 708 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: But again, like an SCA or two of the best 709 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: guys in the league, they were not upper cross draft picks. 710 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 3: They were not like top five guys at second round. 711 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 5: So it can happen, but. 712 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 3: It's more rare. And look at Tom Brady six round pick. 713 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 3: It just happens a lot in football. Okay, Jeff Goodman 714 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: covers college basketball. There was an nbagm that talked about this. 715 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 3: He said, people are overreacting. It's not that big of 716 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: a deal. We got guys in the NBA who missed 717 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: two munch with a strained hammy. A lot of guys 718 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: would have shut him down for the rest of the season. 719 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: Pump the brakes, people get the flu. 720 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: People also have to remember it's a small snapshot of 721 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: his entire career. He's probably the number one pick we'll 722 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: see when you watch him play. If you don't have 723 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: to like college basketball, watch a half, give it, give 724 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: it thirty five minutes. 725 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: You'll be like, whoa, He's not Cooper Flag, but he 726 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: is like a big time blue chip prospect. There's like 727 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 3: four of them. Boozer, by the way, I know you 728 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 3: mentioned him. He's really good against UNC though their length 729 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: gave him problems. The big guys you don't take earlier 730 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: than the wings because is the most coveted position of best. 731 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now. It is like when I grew up, 732 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: as when I was younger, it was bigs. Yeah, had 733 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: there were so few bigs on the planet. You got 734 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 1: a big and that led for the record, that led 735 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: to a ton of busts. I can find you twelve 736 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: great centers all time. I can find you forty first 737 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: round center buff. 738 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan. Remember in the draft that 739 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: was like one of the biggest whiffs of all time. 740 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 3: I mean, Greg Odin going one a lot of Bigs again. 741 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: Sam Bowie was remarkable. Sam Bowie was remarkable. Go YouTube 742 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: Sam Bouie pulling up on the left wing shooting eighteen footers. 743 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: He was ahead of his time. He fell apart. Yeah, 744 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: so it's I don't know. It's all I know is 745 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: this is not You have to think about a lot 746 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: of different things, like the movie money Ball, when Brad 747 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: Pitt's played Billy Bean and he's like, you know, there's 748 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees, there's this, and then we're a mile below that. 749 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: You have to know what you can possibly do, and 750 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: in the NBA what you're trying to fight. Let's say 751 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: this kid ends up being seventy five to eighty percent 752 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: of what he could be, So instead of averaging twenty ninety, 753 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: averages twenty three, you get about sixty eight games a year. 754 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: He's pretty good defensively, he's fun to watch. He's dynamic, 755 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: but he doesn't quite he gets back. He doesn't quite 756 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 1: love it like you wish he'd love it. You'd still 757 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: take him. The other thing is when somebody is this gifted, 758 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: like Lebron was so good, you draft Lebron over Carmelo, 759 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: And Carmelo was a great college player for a year 760 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: at Serviu. You draft Lebron because if you don't, it 761 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: will ruin your career. Trading Luca to the Lakers ruin 762 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: Nico Harrison's career. This kid his highlight package. You have 763 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: to draft him either one or two. I would take 764 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: him one, but you have to. I mean, he's just 765 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: sometimes you do things to save your own bacon. You 766 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: pass on this kid and he goes to a really 767 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: good roster and is doing twenty four and six and 768 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: and in playoff basketball, you're losing your job as a 769 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: GM MHM