Speaker 1: Hi, you bro, you'd be coming to me about how
Speaker 1: I saw the motherfucking podcast. I was making sure to
Speaker 1: be quiet because I thought you was gonna come through
Speaker 1: with the fire, and that's what you said. What did?
Speaker 1: What would have preferred to me? I don't know, but Hi, no,
Speaker 1: no bro, I thought it was gonna. I thought you
Speaker 1: was coming with the fire, bro, because you do, you
Speaker 1: do came for me the last couple of times. I
Speaker 1: haven't started this motherfucking podcast, and I still will you.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, anyway, look all right, hey guys, welcome
Speaker 1: to you another motherfucker episode a mother all right, let
Speaker 1: me let me know I won't to do all that.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of four Decisions. Guys. I feel
Speaker 1: like we should have a spiel by now if this
Speaker 1: is your first time listening, but we don't. But it's
Speaker 1: a sex podcast. Welcome. This is your girl, Mandy b
Speaker 1: a k A full core pumps a K A pet
Speaker 1: say a k A death bit. I'm not as excited,
Speaker 1: but my name is Wheezy uh. And today we had
Speaker 1: our first I can't believe in three and a half
Speaker 1: to say in our first Oh well, we had a
Speaker 1: Patreon episode and it went there because we've realized that
Speaker 1: Nigga might be lying. It was we have it was
Speaker 1: a little suspect our first meal. Escort, Like, I definitely
Speaker 1: know he fucked for money. That was his job, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't even his job. Wasn't like real, like to
Speaker 1: me when I hear escort like sex could happen, and
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Anthony before we insure you.
Speaker 1: But I feel like escort you have to do it all.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have to be a companion. I
Speaker 1: have to feel like you have to be well versed
Speaker 1: enough to be able to go on a fucking trip,
Speaker 1: a wedding, whatever the funk it is, and if it
Speaker 1: turns into sex or leads into sex, be skilled in
Speaker 1: that enough. Don't just show up at my fucking door
Speaker 1: like and just think like that's like you really want
Speaker 1: to tell me that, you know? I think, nah, whistles
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, there's definitely levels to being like
Speaker 1: escorting as a whole, but I don't think you've got
Speaker 1: to know how to be a companion to be an escort.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you want to make a decent
Speaker 1: amount of money, just like a good stripper as a salesman, Okay, well, Anthony,
Speaker 1: you are here with us today because you are a
Speaker 1: male escort and I don't I'm sure you're a lot more.
Speaker 1: But we're not going to talk about your other gig
Speaker 1: or job or your career because we we wanted to
Speaker 1: the dirt. It's in your bio, Like, can you tell
Speaker 1: us your at introduce yourself to our listeners? Okay, all right, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, good morning, good afternoon, and good evening.
Speaker 1: Do you everyone? Depended on where you are in the world,
Speaker 1: my name is Anthony and Santi, I am a professional
Speaker 1: boy friends oh, male escort catering to women only. Well,
Speaker 1: damn you. S took a whole bunch of questions out
Speaker 1: that we had, alright, episodes over gays, that's you. Everybody
Speaker 1: had questions. I went on live last night and I
Speaker 1: asked on Twitter. Everybody was like, does he have sex
Speaker 1: with men and women? Does he have sex with men
Speaker 1: and women? Are most did you mention that because most
Speaker 1: male escorts are fluid? Did you do you find that
Speaker 1: to be true? Uh? Most guys that say that they
Speaker 1: are male escorts whenever I don't hear the words straight
Speaker 1: or if it is ambiguous. Nine point nine percent of
Speaker 1: the time, they deal with men and women, but usually
Speaker 1: most of them deal with men mostly. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the macause men pay for sex more than women. Well,
Speaker 1: not only that, it's also that women's sexuality and my
Speaker 1: humble opinion and experience is slightly different than men's. And
Speaker 1: uh um, the money is more with the male client
Speaker 1: more so than it is with a female. Depending on
Speaker 1: your your clients, I've had clients that were very very
Speaker 1: very very rich. I've had something that were poor. How
Speaker 1: do you have poor clients? Well, some save up for
Speaker 1: a special occasion. Now you got to be real. You
Speaker 1: gotta be real. I'm like, damn, this is gonna overdrive
Speaker 1: or not? Do you take PayPal square a cat's preferred you?
Speaker 1: Do you have like a layaweight system? Like? Do they
Speaker 1: like like? Can they lay? Like? Yo? Didny? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get that ship. Shoot. Well, let me let me start
Speaker 1: by dispelling some um misconceptions. When people think about a
Speaker 1: straight mail escort catering only two women, they generally think
Speaker 1: a woman paying a man for sex. Um, And sometimes
Speaker 1: that happens. But what I think is really going on
Speaker 1: deep below the surface, is that a woman wants to lost.
Speaker 1: Where are you going? I just want to say why
Speaker 1: while you're cutting off, Siri, Um, where you're going with
Speaker 1: this was not where I thought, but my mind, you
Speaker 1: you know, I was literally well, I was literally about
Speaker 1: to be like when a woman pays for a man typically,
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say that man got a
Speaker 1: big old dude, because that's the only like I think
Speaker 1: that I would assume a male escort or any man
Speaker 1: that is charging women for sex just got a whole
Speaker 1: baby leg. And most women feel like baby legs ain't
Speaker 1: found out here in the in the in the wild
Speaker 1: very often. Like two years ago when I was talking
Speaker 1: about how I watched gigglos and I wanted to pay
Speaker 1: for yes, but I was like, oh, I wanted to
Speaker 1: spend the night, I want to go to dinner, and
Speaker 1: real quick to before because you just said that. And
Speaker 1: while you're dispelling miss, is there a difference between the
Speaker 1: term jiggolo and what you do? Or is it is
Speaker 1: jiggolo kind of intertwining with male escort? Uh? For me,
Speaker 1: there really is not a different, But I know for
Speaker 1: some they make a distinction. And what's the distinction, like
Speaker 1: that you've heard of one is that it is a
Speaker 1: way of life um, But for me, there is no distinction,
Speaker 1: because catering to women is as a professional boyfriend is
Speaker 1: a way of life. For me, it is a discipline.
Speaker 1: I get up in the morning, I do I have
Speaker 1: certain rituals, I do certain things, UM, and I have
Speaker 1: certain exercises, I have certain I have a certain diet
Speaker 1: I have. When I get ready to go on an
Speaker 1: adventure with a woman, then there are certain things I
Speaker 1: do to prepare. So there are certain things that I
Speaker 1: don't do so that I can come with the correct
Speaker 1: energy and the look my mind is going. So where
Speaker 1: else I thought to come had to be a certain taste,
Speaker 1: even like the zion for the come, like what you're
Speaker 1: really talking about maybe an adventure Well before we because
Speaker 1: I do like want to get into your dudes and
Speaker 1: your don't how you pick your clients, And we're gonna
Speaker 1: get more into that, um for the horrible decision, because
Speaker 1: everything that you're saying is going to be the meat
Speaker 1: and potatoes of this episode. So if you guys have
Speaker 1: not picked up yet, we have a whole male escort
Speaker 1: and we're gonna deep dive into you know how how
Speaker 1: you kind of how your operation works. But before we
Speaker 1: do that, we're gonna go ahead and throw us into
Speaker 1: al vanilla sheet. Now, you guys may have heard us
Speaker 1: talk about a doll brothel before, but this one is
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, which I want to bring up because
Speaker 1: it's one of the only cities that are semi open.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I think I think the
Speaker 1: one that we talked about last time was in Europe
Speaker 1: or Germany or something. No, they we're trying to open
Speaker 1: one in Texas, but there's one in Canada. Okay, but
Speaker 1: definitely they have them in Europe. But like they're getting
Speaker 1: closer and closer. Now here's the interesting part. So UM,
Speaker 1: a fluid gender social lifestyle club that rents space to
Speaker 1: a sex doll operation, is in Clark County and they're
Speaker 1: in federal court because they're trying to retain their business license.
Speaker 1: So the studio places basically operating as a fluid lifestyle
Speaker 1: learning center and they are an educational institution and have
Speaker 1: been since two thousand sixteen. However, there's allegations that the
Speaker 1: property is being used as an illegal sex club and
Speaker 1: sex to all brothel, and they are suing back because
Speaker 1: they're basically saying that they don't want their business license
Speaker 1: provoked because they have not encouraged those things. So, you
Speaker 1: know what this reminds me of. We were at the
Speaker 1: bank trying to open up our business account and fucking
Speaker 1: our logo was at the top of course that said
Speaker 1: horrible decisions. Don't know why no, no, no, I know.
Speaker 1: So our business title just let you guys know, does
Speaker 1: not It's just an acronym. There's no horrible decisions thing
Speaker 1: in there. But Alex needed to send us at this well,
Speaker 1: at this time, we were at the bank and we
Speaker 1: needed an actual letterhead for our business to open up
Speaker 1: the accout the fucker sent us a big as horrible
Speaker 1: decision at the top of the letter hand It's like,
Speaker 1: is this good? And I'm like, nigked, I just sent
Speaker 1: you the LC name and and so he put that
Speaker 1: on there, and literally we're at the bank and we
Speaker 1: just get started, like we all these questions, well, do
Speaker 1: you guys do anything involving sex, because if it's a
Speaker 1: sex based operation, we can't really open your business account here.
Speaker 1: And they just started asking all these questions about sex.
Speaker 1: It also reminds me when people like when I was
Speaker 1: out with when this podcast early you know started off early, Um,
Speaker 1: I was kind of ashamed, especially working in corporate How
Speaker 1: to explain what my podcasts about. So instead of saying,
Speaker 1: you know, we do stigmatize Kase, I would. So it's
Speaker 1: a podcast about women empowerment and sexual liberation and so
Speaker 1: that's what this reminds me of sexual health. Okay, the
Speaker 1: way Anthony have us remind us to come back and
Speaker 1: ask you about our bank account stuff and how that
Speaker 1: works in your business. Um. So the sex Dolls experience, Okay,
Speaker 1: basically this is what they do. You get to go
Speaker 1: in a private room to learn about these dolls. It's
Speaker 1: an hourly rate. It's undisclosed according to their website. However,
Speaker 1: the rooms have beds, couches, TVs, at least one stripper ful,
Speaker 1: and bondage equipment. Um. Now, the judge did not deny
Speaker 1: that the social venue um social sex. But she did
Speaker 1: say the judge, if people have sex, they're doing it
Speaker 1: in private rooms. Um. And there's nobody else involved because
Speaker 1: it's a doll. So that's why they're having such a
Speaker 1: hard time figuring out what this place is because it's
Speaker 1: not technically a brothel because there's no one having sex.
Speaker 1: On the other I don't even gonna hold you, especially
Speaker 1: right now with everything with COVID, I would find some
Speaker 1: type of COVID law. There's no way you're going to
Speaker 1: sanitize everything to make this not be sanitizabal What sanitiza
Speaker 1: and that is the word. I feel like, you know
Speaker 1: what this made me think of? In New York. I
Speaker 1: believe one of them I used to live by it.
Speaker 1: I think it was on a forties something, the eighth
Speaker 1: one of the left few private viewing rooms for porn
Speaker 1: totally illegal because someone's alone and you don't know what
Speaker 1: they're doing when they're looking at that DVD. It's the
Speaker 1: same ship not the only thing I will say that
Speaker 1: ain't shit about these people? How is the educational center?
Speaker 1: Because you're learning about your body? Like just like, no,
Speaker 1: just like And y'all know, I don't really do science,
Speaker 1: but the anatomy is a part of science. And when
Speaker 1: you're learning as a doctor, they laid like little little
Speaker 1: dolls on the table for you to learn the anatomy
Speaker 1: of a human being. Oh, this is hell. Do you
Speaker 1: learn in the parts of a body? Ben with the doll?
Speaker 1: You gotta make it. Give me my law degreement. Mandy Cochran,
Speaker 1: I love to having listen I thought it was good,
Speaker 1: So now I did think that was good. To moving on,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the Horror derv Our. Horror derv
Speaker 1: segment is basically where we get you give you a
Speaker 1: sex tip every week, and we have one from a listener.
Speaker 1: I love this one, and Anthony, we would love a
Speaker 1: sex tip from you as well, So you can while
Speaker 1: we read this tip sex tip from one of our listeners,
Speaker 1: if you could think of one to give our audience,
Speaker 1: just so you know too. It could be a sex
Speaker 1: tip that you have men to please women, or it
Speaker 1: could be a sex tip to give women to please men.
Speaker 1: So just think of one in your head while we
Speaker 1: read this. All right, Hey, Mandy and Wheezy. I know
Speaker 1: I probably sound like every other email, but I absolutely
Speaker 1: love you, I think and my husband and I get
Speaker 1: caught up all the episodes together thanks to this podcast.
Speaker 1: We explore things he would he would have never even
Speaker 1: thought about. She put in parentheses. He's Jamaican. We heard
Speaker 1: you this, but anyway, I have a sex tip that
Speaker 1: will drive him crazy. If you're a man likes you
Speaker 1: to eat the groceries. For those of you don't know,
Speaker 1: that is the ass the bulla hole. When he's on
Speaker 1: his back, position the tip of your nose on his
Speaker 1: balls and move your face around so the balls and
Speaker 1: booty hole all caps and it says mandy voice are
Speaker 1: stimulated at the same time while also jerking him off.
Speaker 1: This can also be modified while licking the gooch. If
Speaker 1: you're scared to go lower as well, try this and
Speaker 1: your man will thank you the nose, she says. Um So,
Speaker 1: the thing about that is, um it not only smelling it,
Speaker 1: but like, so I've done it before, like not necessarily
Speaker 1: on purpose, but when you're down there licking the booda hole,
Speaker 1: you do make it. You still use saliva and spit,
Speaker 1: and now it gets wet down there in the booty hole.
Speaker 1: You already gott like move the cheeks out the way.
Speaker 1: So my thing is, I don't want to drown. And
Speaker 1: to me, I don't like feeling like all that spit
Speaker 1: and all of because now it's boota juice and spit.
Speaker 1: I don't like that it's all in my nose. I
Speaker 1: feel like i'ma blow a little Buddha juice bubbles out
Speaker 1: of my nose. I don't like that I ain't even
Speaker 1: gonna hold you. Yeah, but even if you lean it
Speaker 1: while your tongue is there licking the buoda hole. Now
Speaker 1: you got the spit in the boota juices going up
Speaker 1: your nostrils? Was this a hord? Duncan I feel? I
Speaker 1: feel like, do you get he laughing? I just feel
Speaker 1: like that's that's she's about to kill it, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it was aint expert. You know, I'll be
Speaker 1: down there in the boot hole and I've done that, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't like all that spit getting up in my holes. Bro,
Speaker 1: So that cute if it works for her, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you now, but where you may drown? Okay. So
Speaker 1: so we're gonna come to Anthony now. I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's the type of tip we would love to
Speaker 1: hear from here. Since you out here, says you out
Speaker 1: here getting paid and ship, can you go ahead and
Speaker 1: let us know if your tip is for men or
Speaker 1: for women? And what your sex tip is? Um, Actually
Speaker 1: it's for men and it is more so think about seduction.
Speaker 1: Sexual subduction more like a um more like a dance okay,
Speaker 1: not a lot. So this will be hard for a
Speaker 1: white man. You need rhythm, okay, so sorry, So seduction,
Speaker 1: what tips do you have for men to seduce. That's
Speaker 1: what I was saying. We make of seduction more like
Speaker 1: a dance than a battle. Okay, what if they can't dance, Anthony, Well,
Speaker 1: you can still think of it that way. It's it's
Speaker 1: a give and take. It is having fun. It is
Speaker 1: um wanting to discover so much about the person that
Speaker 1: you're with versus I gotta get this in terms of
Speaker 1: like seduction is not being physical. You mean, that's how
Speaker 1: I take it. I mean, when you think about like
Speaker 1: the book The Artist Deduction, one of the most popular
Speaker 1: books for sex, right, people always talk about how it
Speaker 1: starts before you get to the bedroom, And I think
Speaker 1: that's mainly the issue that men always have with sex
Speaker 1: is that like sometimes we don't even really see uh
Speaker 1: side to them until we get to the bedroom. Like
Speaker 1: I think flirtation can go beyond just touching me. Like
Speaker 1: certain things that you're saying, you know, I contact as
Speaker 1: a Anthony, I ain't gonna hold you, you'll tip just
Speaker 1: sounded like a horoscope. I ain't stand ship, like I
Speaker 1: didn't get shipped out of it, Like I need to
Speaker 1: know a tip, Like are we dancing actually in the
Speaker 1: living room if we're not really dancing because we're bringing
Speaker 1: up rhythm. Like, what is something that you do in seduction?
Speaker 1: Is it how you look into her eyes? Is it?
Speaker 1: Do you hold her hand and rub it smoothly? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like? How do you seduce? You
Speaker 1: get what I mean? Well? Uh, with women, what you
Speaker 1: have to do is deal with her mind and thinking
Speaker 1: about you in a sexual way. I always say that
Speaker 1: if a woman is not trying to rip your clothes
Speaker 1: off in private, then you've done something wrong. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I like that. We just said that last we were Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just had that guy who was saying how even
Speaker 1: when he knows a woman us to have sex with him,
Speaker 1: he's not necessarily pressed right away, Like he mentioned that,
Speaker 1: you know, he likes to wait it out. And I
Speaker 1: liked that because I think that more often than not,
Speaker 1: like we normally, it's the instant gratification, like let's just
Speaker 1: get it over with, let's suck whatever, even a nightcap
Speaker 1: for instance. Mandy and I debate about this all the time,
Speaker 1: but I've always liked kind of spending time alone before
Speaker 1: the first time we have sex, which is a lot
Speaker 1: of people's first time. Right you go upstairs, you go
Speaker 1: to their apartment, they come to yours whatever, and then
Speaker 1: you fuck. I like that like lingering feeling. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's going to give me the rip the clothes
Speaker 1: off moment. If we don't kiss and touch and flirt
Speaker 1: before that, I'm not as ship. I went hiking and
Speaker 1: just had adults compoleo on a coffee and a bitch.
Speaker 1: I was ready to fuck. So I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but he the average woman ain't always ready well ship
Speaker 1: all the sick with someone. I was compoo bitch and
Speaker 1: I saw him every day. So uh, Anthony's tip is
Speaker 1: a dance, Mandy's a chicken and all right for the
Speaker 1: for the horrible decision in today we go, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: get it to the meeting. But t is now it
Speaker 1: is a male escorting one on one. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: start with the first question. You wrote in your bio
Speaker 1: that you were in the military before. I think we've
Speaker 1: only had one of the person was being nasty right yeah? Maybe? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And UM, I'm curious to know so that was your job?
Speaker 1: How did you get started escorting? How many years have
Speaker 1: you been doing this? Um? Nine years? I started in
Speaker 1: two thousand and how did it happen? The crisis. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I was in I think it was right around that.
Speaker 1: I was in law school, okay, and I was at
Speaker 1: a law library in d C. And uh I saw
Speaker 1: this woman, uh that looked quite attractive. She was they're
Speaker 1: doing some research. She was a partner at a law firm.
Speaker 1: And uh, we struck up a conversation and it went
Speaker 1: quite well. She asked me out for dinner. Um, we connected,
Speaker 1: and I thought that she was going to ask me
Speaker 1: over for the night, but she asked me to instead.
Speaker 1: She gave me an indecent proposal. She asked me to
Speaker 1: bring some pleasure and some joy and some excitement to
Speaker 1: her life. Now you have to understand her mindset and
Speaker 1: mindset of many clients, at least of mine. Um, she
Speaker 1: was very successful in her profession. She was at the
Speaker 1: top of her game. Very little time for bs, very
Speaker 1: little time for boyfriend, very little time to date. H
Speaker 1: Plus UM, a lot of men because she was very
Speaker 1: beautiful and very successful, a lot of men felt intimidated.
Speaker 1: So she and get approached a lot either and uh,
Speaker 1: so she decided to asked me to fill in as
Speaker 1: a boyfriend for her at her beck in call. Did
Speaker 1: she make it sound like that at the time. Uh no,
Speaker 1: but uh, because it doesn't sound like it's when you wanted.
Speaker 1: It sounds like I need you to do this for me. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: she knew that. Uh my time was limited. Also, she
Speaker 1: would act, are you available such a date at such
Speaker 1: a time? Now, Um, we did that. We connected. We
Speaker 1: had lots of good times in and out of the bedroom. Um.
Speaker 1: And she introduced me to some of her friends that
Speaker 1: were in the same boat. Um, were you getting paid
Speaker 1: at the time? Yeah, she was. She was happing me out. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I didn't know if it happened when she went
Speaker 1: to her friend. So when it first started, how what
Speaker 1: was payment like? Because I'm curious to know because I
Speaker 1: feel like when I start hearing stories from escorts, but
Speaker 1: whether they be male or female. I've ever listened to
Speaker 1: a show or whatever. It starts like a sugar Mama
Speaker 1: type of thing. Was it for you immediate cash? Was
Speaker 1: it gifts? How did that start? And how do you
Speaker 1: know how to go about it? There was cash? There
Speaker 1: was some gifts. Also. Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: And this is this is because and this is just
Speaker 1: me finding it. I'm at a library. I get it.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you what color she is? Oh she
Speaker 1: was black? Oh she was black. Well, okay, gott to
Speaker 1: be I'm not gonna lie. I thought I was a
Speaker 1: white woman wanting a black man. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: That was one of the questions I had for you.
Speaker 1: So I, oh, let me, let me, let me finish this,
Speaker 1: and I certainly, I'll certainly get to your question now.
Speaker 1: When she started introducing me to her friends, UM, I figured,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to do this, then I'm going to
Speaker 1: do it right. I researched the business of providing companionship
Speaker 1: to women. I got a male escort mentor and I
Speaker 1: got a mail excort coach. I paid these guys to
Speaker 1: show me the ropes. Both of them had books, both
Speaker 1: of them had been in the business for these ten years.
Speaker 1: They taught me the ends and out, what to do
Speaker 1: with women, what not to do with women, how to
Speaker 1: present myself, how to do all those things over and
Speaker 1: above just right. M hmm um. And that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: There's more to this than fucking. There's a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot more to it. I have clients that I've
Speaker 1: never even seen before. We just talked on the phone.
Speaker 1: Women are paying for that. Yeah, only bit just yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like there's it's always odds to
Speaker 1: me and we've had this conversation before. To me, there
Speaker 1: is an abundance of dick niggas just be ready to give.
Speaker 1: It's not just dick that's it. But you like, men
Speaker 1: without a job can talk to you like there's like
Speaker 1: if you're saying you don't have a lot of time,
Speaker 1: I feel like there are. I felt like it it
Speaker 1: took you a long time to meet a decent dude.
Speaker 1: Well also because I was hung up on sucking the
Speaker 1: same person for the last seven years. But even when
Speaker 1: I got into being in school and working my job,
Speaker 1: I felt like he served that purpose and he's still
Speaker 1: paid for my ubers to come see him, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I see everyone has that access as
Speaker 1: you do. And I think that's the other thing that
Speaker 1: we have to take our heads out of. Like, and
Speaker 1: I always say this to you too, like when you're like,
Speaker 1: I can't get how people just can't go they can't
Speaker 1: You were absentent, you said nobody was worth it. Fucking
Speaker 1: You've been through that moment. Granted it was Corona. When
Speaker 1: it wasn't right, we'd go out. We do certain things.
Speaker 1: We mingle. We have a different life than a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And if you're that woman or that person
Speaker 1: or that man, much like a man who pays for pussy. Right,
Speaker 1: let's just say that maybe you're too awkward to go out.
Speaker 1: Maybe like you, you're not as confident enough. I think
Speaker 1: this is the easiest thing to like. I see, I
Speaker 1: can't believe you can't get it. I mean, we can't
Speaker 1: get a lot of things, Like we don't agree on
Speaker 1: a lot of things. That's just one thing. I genuinely
Speaker 1: I don't understand aother woman just because I know how
Speaker 1: how open I mean, just how easy it is to
Speaker 1: get a man, I guess. But my question, that's that's
Speaker 1: really not the issue. Most of my clients, uh can
Speaker 1: get men. They just want certain types of men, and
Speaker 1: they want it in a certain way. Okay, So and
Speaker 1: there I have I have clients who if they can't
Speaker 1: pay a man for their companionship, they don't want them.
Speaker 1: They don't want him. Do you notice that that is
Speaker 1: a certain type of job from that woman? Like that
Speaker 1: sounds to me like I feel like it may be
Speaker 1: it may be that, but more than often, uh more
Speaker 1: often than not, they want someone that is going to
Speaker 1: be there for them and not going to burden them
Speaker 1: down with their own crap going on in their own heads.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have to tell you that some
Speaker 1: men have big, big drama, and they bring all that
Speaker 1: baggage with them too a relationship with a woman. Some
Speaker 1: women don't have time for their crap. Women who are
Speaker 1: very successful have a lot going on. They don't have
Speaker 1: time for that. Do you find that. I feel like
Speaker 1: when we've watched glorified male escorts on TV or something
Speaker 1: like that, we assume they're younger. But when I was
Speaker 1: watching Gigglos on Showtime, like there was men were in
Speaker 1: their forties. They weren't necessarily this like model looking Abracambie,
Speaker 1: like twenty year old kid. And I'm curious to know
Speaker 1: if you feel like your experience or age, or whatever
Speaker 1: kind of level you have in life has been more
Speaker 1: of an asset to you. Um. Yes, I'm no spring chicken.
Speaker 1: I am in my forties. Um, but what I bring
Speaker 1: to my adventures with clients is that I am I
Speaker 1: have life experiences. I was a husband, I'm a father,
Speaker 1: I'm a son to my parents. Um, I've been in
Speaker 1: business before. I have all these things, these life experiences
Speaker 1: that I can bring to the table and discuss with women.
Speaker 1: And that's one interesting thing. Yeah, all of my clients,
Speaker 1: I'll say it that the conversations that we have is
Speaker 1: just as important is to them is anything else that
Speaker 1: we do with With the question that we had earlier,
Speaker 1: I know Mandy and I both were like white women, right,
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know your first experience was with a
Speaker 1: black woman with your time as a male escort, when
Speaker 1: you've had white female clients, why not you only sleep
Speaker 1: with women? But have you encountered some like I want
Speaker 1: to try my first black I want to be with
Speaker 1: a black guy, and like, has that been some of
Speaker 1: the experiences that, Yeah, can you tell us about that.
Speaker 1: I have had some clients that fetishized black males. I
Speaker 1: personally don't have an issue with it. So do you?
Speaker 1: Because we had a few questions for some femdoms that
Speaker 1: we've had that were black women that know they're being fetishized,
Speaker 1: but it's most like I'm getting paid for it, so
Speaker 1: let me run through them. Do you feel like that?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's easier because you're getting paid
Speaker 1: for it. It's just a service. How do you check
Speaker 1: out of that. UM, I don't police what's in a
Speaker 1: woman's say it? It's my My role is to be
Speaker 1: there for uh, warmth, tenderness, to make her feel whole
Speaker 1: and connected. Whatever it took for her to reach out
Speaker 1: to me, uh is her concern. It's her. Um, it's hers.
Speaker 1: I don't have to navigate art to police that. Can
Speaker 1: I ask you where your clients find you, like I'm
Speaker 1: familiar with of course, like seeking arrangement? What's your place
Speaker 1: in the dating sites or in eros? Like I have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends on eros. If a man wanted
Speaker 1: to be I guess on a website or find clients?
Speaker 1: How do you go about doing that? Isn't an agency?
Speaker 1: Is a website that you're on? Like? How do your
Speaker 1: clients find you? Um? My clients, most of my clients
Speaker 1: needs that these days off from referrals from other clients.
Speaker 1: Having said that, uh, some clients find me on my website,
Speaker 1: some on the other social media outlets. Have you ever
Speaker 1: this is random? And I just thought about that when
Speaker 1: you were saying you don't police what's going on in
Speaker 1: your mind? Have you ever had to cut a client
Speaker 1: off for either how they were treating you or because
Speaker 1: maybe they were falling in love, Like, can you tell
Speaker 1: us about someone you better cut off over the years,
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming not everything is worth the money. No
Speaker 1: it isn't. But having said that, I've never had to
Speaker 1: cut off? What's been your longest client? How many years? Um?
Speaker 1: Six years? Have you ever had someone say like, okay,
Speaker 1: like I know you're into me too, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want to pay you anymore? Has that ever happened? Wouldn't
Speaker 1: you feel like a man would start doing it? What
Speaker 1: I feel I could see a man saying men do
Speaker 1: do that? Um. Some of my female escort friends, UM
Speaker 1: talk about it all the time if you're enjoying the sex,
Speaker 1: that they're attractive and they're assuming, like, well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's like I just feel like it's a
Speaker 1: little different, especially because I mean I've been on the
Speaker 1: receiving end of it where I've been a companion to
Speaker 1: someone who was married and I benefited off of it
Speaker 1: through payment and gifts and those sort of things. UM.
Speaker 1: And I think that there does become a time where men,
Speaker 1: because of their ego, don't want to feel like you're
Speaker 1: only around them because they're doing something for you, Like eventually,
Speaker 1: especially if you're giving even to these women that companionship
Speaker 1: to where now they feel needed, they feel wanted, they
Speaker 1: feel like you're interested in them. I think that it's
Speaker 1: a little mind funk after a while, like damn, we
Speaker 1: really vibe in. But is this all act? Does this
Speaker 1: woman really enjoy me? And so I think that there
Speaker 1: has been lines where yeah, a man will be like, dang,
Speaker 1: I gotta pay you this time too. This is the
Speaker 1: arrangement we got into. Yes, you have to pay me.
Speaker 1: And as soon as like the dynamics, ships changed, or
Speaker 1: I feel like they want more like a relationship. This
Speaker 1: we didn't start off as wanting a relationship. And I
Speaker 1: think that the women, I guess and differently, they're very
Speaker 1: upfront with what they want from you. And I think
Speaker 1: with men, most men though, yeah, and most men, I
Speaker 1: think after a while, especially if they're paying for companionship,
Speaker 1: they want to feel actually wanted and not used. Men
Speaker 1: hate feeling like tricks, and I think it does give
Speaker 1: a woman power to feel like to use to use
Speaker 1: it in a difference, you know what I mean to
Speaker 1: see that it's a little different. How has um Corona
Speaker 1: impacted your work? Um it has, I'm sure for a
Speaker 1: lot of sex workers. It has for sure. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's actually starting to pick up. We see in Atlanta
Speaker 1: to stay out the talking in pools. What, um, what's
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing someone's asked you for that you had
Speaker 1: to say no to? What is it the weirdest thing to?
Speaker 1: And interesting enough, women don't act for these things. You
Speaker 1: know what's crazy? Believe if I'm paying somebody, oh you know,
Speaker 1: I but here, here's here's the issue, and I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I I really bring this home. It
Speaker 1: is really less about the sex than the boyfriend experience,
Speaker 1: more about uh, someone that helps you to feel whole connected,
Speaker 1: a lot um attended to those sorts of things. Now,
Speaker 1: that's now. The reason that most guys can't do it,
Speaker 1: and especially a husband or a boyfriend, is because life
Speaker 1: is hectic. Life. We have so much going on. We
Speaker 1: have a job that is usually eight hours. We spent
Speaker 1: an hour trying to get ready to get to the
Speaker 1: job or preparing together there, an hour coming back. It's
Speaker 1: already ten hours in the day for seven or eight Yeah, tired,
Speaker 1: you know after all that, after that, that's good, seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen hours, you're you're you're selling me on this. But
Speaker 1: now that I thought about husband, has a husband ever
Speaker 1: found out about you? Uh? I do not know for
Speaker 1: sure he got the same. I've had clients that cut me.
Speaker 1: They never called you, like no man's ever called you
Speaker 1: and say who is this? Uh No, But I had
Speaker 1: clients that saw them disappeared disappeared however way they I
Speaker 1: will say this that most of the time, UM, couples
Speaker 1: are close to of my clientele, and UM, most of
Speaker 1: the time it is the husband are the boyfriends? Couples
Speaker 1: are your clientele? Stop let me stop you there. Couples
Speaker 1: are your clientele, your professional boyfriend though our men hiring
Speaker 1: them for you for their wives? Is it a cup
Speaker 1: holding situation? No? Okay, okay, the husbands are engaging me
Speaker 1: for their wives. Now. Um. When that happens, usually they
Speaker 1: are the ones that initially contact me and work out
Speaker 1: all of the details. Do they ever? Has one ever
Speaker 1: asked you to like, met her at this bar, don't
Speaker 1: let her know about paying you. That's interesting that so
Speaker 1: the husbands do this for you. Okay, wait, wait, this
Speaker 1: is really interesting to me because the wife aint never
Speaker 1: solicted to me. I'll be honest, Well, what kind of
Speaker 1: maybe not? I'm sure that. Do you find that it's
Speaker 1: because they don't have the time to dedicate or they
Speaker 1: feel like they're not pleasing their partners sexually. No, it
Speaker 1: could be. It could be that. But most of the time,
Speaker 1: what I find is that, uh, the husband and wife
Speaker 1: have been together for some time and they felt that
Speaker 1: it is time to open up their relationship, and they
Speaker 1: want to do it in such a way that I
Speaker 1: am not going to be interfering in their relationship, that
Speaker 1: I Am not going to uh harm her in any way. Um,
Speaker 1: he wants someone that is professional, karen, loving, kind and
Speaker 1: all those things and and well like a queen, although
Speaker 1: you won't get interfering right into their relationship. Nine years
Speaker 1: six years is a long time for someone. Have you
Speaker 1: ever fallen for a client and how do you protect
Speaker 1: yourself from doing that? A lot of our listeners I've
Speaker 1: considered getting into sex work things like that, or even
Speaker 1: if they're just kind of I think the normal way
Speaker 1: that we see it today is girls with d M guys,
Speaker 1: whether the rappers or athletes or whatever, and because they're
Speaker 1: attractive and maybe somebody you would be with for free,
Speaker 1: they don't know how to differentiate that. Have you ever
Speaker 1: fallen for someone and can you tell us like how
Speaker 1: that worked out. It's very difficult to answer that question
Speaker 1: because I tell me what fault that means to you?
Speaker 1: To me, falling for someone means you can't separate it
Speaker 1: as work anymore. No say that, I agree. I mean
Speaker 1: I think that it's been even with me, like I
Speaker 1: I from my Nigerian that I had. I played every
Speaker 1: role that he wanted me to be, and I've really
Speaker 1: cared for him as a person, but when he stopped
Speaker 1: being able to pay me, it was pretty easy to
Speaker 1: walk away. And I think that that's a lot of
Speaker 1: the relationships that you get into. But I think it
Speaker 1: has more so to do with knowing what it is
Speaker 1: up front, and like I've said, even with dealing with
Speaker 1: married men, because there's nothing in my mind or mentally,
Speaker 1: I know there's a blockage for what we can eventually
Speaker 1: be in the future because it to me, I don't
Speaker 1: think that I could ever marry this man. There's already
Speaker 1: a mental blockage as to well, I know what this
Speaker 1: is already and you keep it there. And I mean,
Speaker 1: when you're in this industry, especially with a lot of
Speaker 1: women like you may still care for the person but
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, this is
Speaker 1: a role I mean, and that's truly what meant by
Speaker 1: falling for right, because I'm sure, like I'm sure you care. Right,
Speaker 1: It's hard for how can you be like a total robot?
Speaker 1: But that is what I meant though, Like, have you
Speaker 1: ever got to the point where like, fucking I don't care?
Speaker 1: I care for all my clients. Yeah, we have a report,
Speaker 1: we have mutual care and concern for one another, but
Speaker 1: we know that it is a a a relationship that
Speaker 1: is too, that is of two points. It is a
Speaker 1: personal relationship and it is a business relationship. How do
Speaker 1: you for for a lot of questions we had, like
Speaker 1: people were asking about safety and I read the drin
Speaker 1: we were in the military, but still like safety, what
Speaker 1: precautions could a man take that is going to do this?
Speaker 1: A lot of men are worry they would get robbed
Speaker 1: or something like that, like is it vetting? Is it
Speaker 1: your place versus there's what a safety look like for
Speaker 1: a meal escort. Because we always are worried about women,
Speaker 1: but we never really consider truly that safety of men.
Speaker 1: It's going to be different for each guy. Um, I
Speaker 1: would say that if you're going into this line of
Speaker 1: work with fears about what if? Guess what is that
Speaker 1: You're not right for this position? That makes sense. You
Speaker 1: have to go with your authentic not being afraid of
Speaker 1: anything or anyone. But how do you prepare though? Because
Speaker 1: I get I get you not living in fear, but
Speaker 1: there still has to be safety precautions that I would
Speaker 1: have seen me take like my friends. Like my friend
Speaker 1: she worked on eros, her safety precaution was asking for
Speaker 1: an I D. And running it through a background check
Speaker 1: to make yeah, to make sure that this person is
Speaker 1: exactly who they say they are. And I mean I've
Speaker 1: had also girls who hired security guards who would be
Speaker 1: outside the door. See I think I first meant is
Speaker 1: the coal harm? But I am curious now talking about
Speaker 1: vetting because I know a lot of those sites are
Speaker 1: gone because he's has to how does your vetting process work?
Speaker 1: If it's not word of mouth, Well, they're going to
Speaker 1: contact me and say, um, Sharon, Karen, whatever you know
Speaker 1: told me about you? Um, do you have any time?
Speaker 1: So it's always word of mouth for you. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, what so say someone hits you on your
Speaker 1: Twitter or your Instagram. You're very upfront with what you
Speaker 1: do and what services you offer this companionship. So say
Speaker 1: it's not a referral. Say someone slides in your d
Speaker 1: M s and it's like I heard you on horrible decisions? Um,
Speaker 1: do you're everything that I'm looking for? How do you
Speaker 1: know that this person, say, isn't a cop? How do
Speaker 1: you know this person is really serious and willing to
Speaker 1: pay your rates? Like, how do you vet that person
Speaker 1: to know whether you want to move forward with them
Speaker 1: or not? Sure? That's a good question. Uh, there are
Speaker 1: a number of things that I will have them do
Speaker 1: and uh, for instance, um, you have to pay a
Speaker 1: deposit to see me smart. If they don't fail deposit,
Speaker 1: I know they're not serious. If they just got a
Speaker 1: text today saying are you available now? You cannot go
Speaker 1: to my website. You can't find any add that I've
Speaker 1: posted anywhere on this planet that doesn't say no text please.
Speaker 1: I will not respond to it. I know that that
Speaker 1: person is not serious or either is oblivious to everything.
Speaker 1: Either way, he or she will not make a good client.
Speaker 1: You sound like a hairstylist then, because the real quick
Speaker 1: because when you need a book to get your hair done,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, no deal, no text book through the
Speaker 1: Lincoln Bio do style see you literally just sounded like
Speaker 1: a hairstyle. I ain't really met the same because when
Speaker 1: people don't time, don't waste my time. And you can
Speaker 1: pick up on that too. Like a person who isn't
Speaker 1: reading or can't even follow instructions, you know they probably
Speaker 1: not even serious. How is that procedures in process? Now?
Speaker 1: If you want, if you like the fact that I
Speaker 1: am a professional, respect that I have procedures and processes
Speaker 1: and that you need to um go through them all.
Speaker 1: So you're speaking is though what you do as a business,
Speaker 1: and it is? But how is it legal that? But
Speaker 1: we know none of this is legal? Well, I disagree
Speaker 1: because not to me, how I would answer that question
Speaker 1: if I was an escort. Is someone's paying me for
Speaker 1: my companionship and if I decide to have sex with
Speaker 1: them as my choice? That won't work in the court
Speaker 1: of law, will it not? That's what I'm asking you
Speaker 1: in your experience. Well, I'm not a lawyer. I only
Speaker 1: played more but uh, any a prosecutor can make a
Speaker 1: case for a difficure in things now. I have had
Speaker 1: a client where we just laid in the bed and
Speaker 1: watch television. She paid me for my time. No prosecutor
Speaker 1: is going to A prosecutor could probably you know, uh
Speaker 1: file charges, but it's not going to fly. No one's
Speaker 1: going to convicted that. It was just it was just companionship.
Speaker 1: Now there is also if you contract directly for sex,
Speaker 1: then that is I'm a face um um illegal on
Speaker 1: its face illegal. However, suppose you contract to uh for
Speaker 1: me to cook your dinner at your place and uh
Speaker 1: and that was it hold home and things got a
Speaker 1: little hot and heavy, right and it uh escalated to
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Is that against the law You got contracted
Speaker 1: to cook, So I guess it's yet. How so if
Speaker 1: they go through the ways of how it goes. But
Speaker 1: that's why even um John or like undercovers were mostly
Speaker 1: make sure they let it know that I'm here for sex.
Speaker 1: And that's why they also cannot arrest the girl or
Speaker 1: or the sex worker until they accept the payment, knowing
Speaker 1: that sex has agreed upon. I just watched that with
Speaker 1: you on Hollywood on Netflix. Yeah, that's yeah. She was like, oh,
Speaker 1: please just say He's like, why, I don't deal with it.
Speaker 1: She's like, please please take this tip. Yeah, and when
Speaker 1: he took it, that's when she he was arrested. Do
Speaker 1: you want to get into the whole confession or how
Speaker 1: many do you have a question? I just do want
Speaker 1: to ask really quickly. Um, if you date people in
Speaker 1: your private life, m uh, I do not really. So
Speaker 1: in nine years you have and had a girlfriend. No,
Speaker 1: I was married. Oh you were married before you started. No,
Speaker 1: I was married when I started. Now let me ship
Speaker 1: I love and this is the whole confession. Tell us
Speaker 1: about that because you said was so? Was she like,
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore? Um? We had we were
Speaker 1: having problems, um, and we separated and uh then the
Speaker 1: crisis came while we were separated. I decided to do
Speaker 1: this and uh then she contacts me and says that, um,
Speaker 1: she wants to work it out and try again. And
Speaker 1: UM I looked at it and thought, okay, well this
Speaker 1: is the time to let her know. This is what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm providing companionship to him. Is that an
Speaker 1: issue for you? What was she saying? Now? She said
Speaker 1: it wasn't an issue for her. So you guys decided
Speaker 1: to reconcile the marriage and she allowed you to keep
Speaker 1: doing this. Was there any rules or guidelines that she
Speaker 1: gave you, like as far as protection or no, she
Speaker 1: did she want to know about it? Did she ask
Speaker 1: you about your encounters or your other or your clients? Wow,
Speaker 1: she didn't even want to talk about it. Well, we
Speaker 1: talked about it. If she asked me some questions or
Speaker 1: if I had to go see a client out let him. No,
Speaker 1: I'm going to see a client. I feel like mom
Speaker 1: and came home. I like, what was she like? What
Speaker 1: was she saying? What did you do that? Because you're
Speaker 1: so it's so curious. Did you find that maybe it
Speaker 1: would be it would be easier not to discuss it,
Speaker 1: Like I can only imagine for a sex worker that
Speaker 1: is dating someone and wants to open up, or maybe
Speaker 1: even someone who's listening that has a new found relationship,
Speaker 1: like figuring out that boundary I guess between each other
Speaker 1: for communication. I'm actually curious. You said you were married
Speaker 1: and she was okay with it when you brought it
Speaker 1: to her, But is that the reason you're no longer married?
Speaker 1: Did it become to where she actually did end up
Speaker 1: having an issue with it later? I think it was
Speaker 1: partly uh involved. What I think was primarily happening in
Speaker 1: the final breakup was that some of the old issues
Speaker 1: that led to the original breakup, and of course my
Speaker 1: being a professional boyfriend for women did not help the matter,
Speaker 1: so all that came to bear. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: you do better at your job being single? What do
Speaker 1: you mean? Do you think that it's easier to do
Speaker 1: this job? Maybe you have less in your mind, maybe
Speaker 1: you just have more energy to give. Do you feel
Speaker 1: it it's easier to do this job single versus being married? Um? No, No,
Speaker 1: And the reason why is that, UM, being in this
Speaker 1: work has actually help me to be a better husband
Speaker 1: or boyfriend and have better relationships with women, even even
Speaker 1: female friends. Are are my mother's and my sisters because
Speaker 1: my energy now is so respectful, loving, caring, being empathetic
Speaker 1: and know how to um navigate. And that's my last
Speaker 1: question before we get out of here. Um, you mentioned
Speaker 1: your sisters, your mother, So a lot of women find
Speaker 1: shame in opening up about being sex workers to their family.
Speaker 1: Is that something that your family knows of as a
Speaker 1: part of your life? Do you keep your k do
Speaker 1: you keep that away from your family? Knowing well, my
Speaker 1: family and my closest friends know, uh, my mother And
Speaker 1: it's very interesting story I like to tell the story.
Speaker 1: When I told her what I told I was a
Speaker 1: male escort. Her first question was for women or men? Gay?
Speaker 1: Now that's that's I mean, I think that that That
Speaker 1: was honestly, one of the most asked questions when we
Speaker 1: said you were coming on was what does he escort?
Speaker 1: For men? And women? Like? That was a common question.
Speaker 1: Do They seemed to have a concern with that, like
Speaker 1: do women ask you that? Do you do men to like? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: See here's the thing, Um, my clients are very driven,
Speaker 1: very successful, very accomplished women, and they want men who
Speaker 1: can interact with them in a particular way. Now because
Speaker 1: they're dry, and that's what I think they have to
Speaker 1: take on masculine because we are so you are here
Speaker 1: playing Stetman. Huh, what's what's Steedman is who Oprah got
Speaker 1: and we all know that he's around, Like, well, when
Speaker 1: I if I would say that Stedman is poised, he's attractive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not someone that seems like he can't get a woman.
Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like a user, because you know he could. However,
Speaker 1: she's rich, she's she's like, you are my boyfriend, need
Speaker 1: you do anything else? Just focus on me because I'm
Speaker 1: sucking rich and she has that much power, and then
Speaker 1: of course our friend is game. But the Steadman thing
Speaker 1: is always interesting because I have heard people talk about
Speaker 1: Steedman in that way. I'm like, oh, like he just
Speaker 1: gets to sit around or whatever. But I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: when you look at a man like that with his age,
Speaker 1: that looks the way he does, and he seems to
Speaker 1: treat her very well in public, I don't see why
Speaker 1: you would think he wouldn't have somebody. But it wouldn't
Speaker 1: make sense because I'm sure you may be solicited to
Speaker 1: go to company dinners, company functions, and I mean I
Speaker 1: remember when I was an accountant that was my thing,
Speaker 1: dealing with certain guys. I was like, oh, now I
Speaker 1: need someone to look the part for me. So I
Speaker 1: understand if these women don't have the time to go
Speaker 1: out and date and find partners, that you can't fulfill
Speaker 1: that role but also be in a room to where
Speaker 1: you blend in with their collegue. What percentage of clients
Speaker 1: do you think you sleep with? Probably about that's honest,
Speaker 1: And just my last one. Okay, what boundaries do you have?
Speaker 1: If any? Is there something you don't allow or are
Speaker 1: rules that you give clients, I guess disrespect, and I
Speaker 1: want to talk about that for four minutes because I've
Speaker 1: heard the term thrown around here for a minute and
Speaker 1: I'd be um, I'd don't use those terms, uh, these
Speaker 1: ages and the N word. I know that humans are
Speaker 1: much deeper. We are a forced in the universe to
Speaker 1: be reckoned with other beings, admire us other beings. Um
Speaker 1: if we h concerning the N word. I have done
Speaker 1: some study about people of African descent, and that word
Speaker 1: is just incorrect on so many levels. Politically, you don't.
Speaker 1: Politically it's incorrect because you don't let someone who has
Speaker 1: been an enemy to you define who you are. You
Speaker 1: don't take on those terms. Geographically, when we look around
Speaker 1: the world and we see black people, the vast majority
Speaker 1: of us come from Africa. You got some from uh,
Speaker 1: the the Australia. You've got blacks in Papua New Guinea,
Speaker 1: you got blacks in the Peloponnation Islands, Oceania, so on
Speaker 1: and so forth. But most of them have connections with Africa.
Speaker 1: They just say that they migrated from Africa fifty to
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand years ago. Are some folks even say
Speaker 1: Africa came from them. So and we have certain ways,
Speaker 1: certain um characteristics, we do things in a certain way.
Speaker 1: History tells us that the vast majority of us in
Speaker 1: the United States, in the Caribbean and South America come
Speaker 1: from this place that we now know as Africa, and
Speaker 1: that we are if you listen to Dr Us have
Speaker 1: been y'all, and and who actually lived here from lived
Speaker 1: here for many years in New York, And if you
Speaker 1: listen to Dr John Henry Clark, we were the pyramid builders.
Speaker 1: Just because our political, social, and economic situation is on
Speaker 1: the bottom now in the world doesn't mean that we
Speaker 1: were always there and our great civilizations we were known
Speaker 1: as the most generous, the most loving, the most kindness,
Speaker 1: and the smartest folks on the planet. So I go
Speaker 1: through life knowing that I am much greater, that we
Speaker 1: are all much greater than what somebody tells us we are,
Speaker 1: and that some people say we are. In the popular
Speaker 1: media visa the hip hop, it has contaminated us and
Speaker 1: contaminated our minds. Man, we are in cannons class. I
Speaker 1: was like, well, y'all, that is something for y'all to
Speaker 1: think on and ponder. Um we I mean, I've gone
Speaker 1: into meetings, asking what my incount, what my in word
Speaker 1: count was. So I appreciate you having that outlook on it,
Speaker 1: But anyone who listens to this show, I mean I
Speaker 1: embraced it the same way we race the word or
Speaker 1: the same way we embrace the word slut, bitch. I
Speaker 1: mean it's something I called my homegirls. That's kind of
Speaker 1: just like it is. It's a way of life and
Speaker 1: how we talk um. But would you hire me if
Speaker 1: I called you a b an h? I mean it
Speaker 1: depends if you say beach. I mean, it all depends
Speaker 1: on how you think it's the same. I can tell
Speaker 1: you this, my clients would not. But I also don't
Speaker 1: expect that if a woman I don't know where a
Speaker 1: man I don't know what to call me that. But
Speaker 1: I also think the other difference from it is much
Speaker 1: like the N word. If it's used between two black people,
Speaker 1: there's a different meaning. But I mean between a black
Speaker 1: person saying it to another black person in camaraderie than
Speaker 1: a white person saying it to me, much like no
Speaker 1: one's calling you a bit. But I've had that words
Speaker 1: weaponized and used against me, much like horror. Right, So
Speaker 1: so if I use it in a way that's a
Speaker 1: sisterhood for us and be like, Okay, bitch, I'll look
Speaker 1: at your hole and I mean I think it's the
Speaker 1: way you you receive it. I do. Um, guys, we
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Speaker 1: Horror Decisions. Um I had, then I U D and
Speaker 1: next one on Oh you have both Okay. What was
Speaker 1: your experience positive or negative with both? Negative? With both? Okay?
Speaker 1: So the I U D at first seemed really great
Speaker 1: and then I started having problems with BB okay, and
Speaker 1: it was a slight It wasn't a strong it was
Speaker 1: just it was continuous medication would not make it go away.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a very like low case of it.
Speaker 1: So I I'm typically more of a naturally um Morris person,
Speaker 1: and I think that contributed to it. So but after
Speaker 1: I removed it, it cleared up. I never had a
Speaker 1: problem again. Oh wow, okay, and what about what the
Speaker 1: next one? None Um? The next one on is what
Speaker 1: I've had currently since March two thou nineteen, and I've
Speaker 1: had problems with a regular bleeding, heavy bleeding, cramping um.
Speaker 1: And when I say heavy bleeding, I'm talking about two
Speaker 1: to three weeks at a time, offer a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and then another two or three weeks. So it's been
Speaker 1: really difficult for me. With the next one, non Um,
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because you saying so we talked about
Speaker 1: the excessive bleeding. Now you're bringing up the b V
Speaker 1: which causes an an odor down there. And essentially these
Speaker 1: are both things that will keep us from having sex,
Speaker 1: and if we wanted to not have sex, we would
Speaker 1: just be absinent. Like ship. We're literally trying to get
Speaker 1: on birth control to have kind of a more control
Speaker 1: of our sex life and not getting pregnant, and yet
Speaker 1: here it is all a lot of these options make
Speaker 1: it to where now we don't even want to have
Speaker 1: sex because now we're bleeding. Now we have an odor,
Speaker 1: Now we have yeast infects, which you know cause pain
Speaker 1: and and it's just really crazy. Jane Um. Thank you
Speaker 1: Krishell for sharing that. Janey, what is your experience with
Speaker 1: either UM the next one on or or the the
Speaker 1: I E d UM. I've been on Marina uh going
Speaker 1: in September two years. I first had it implanted, and
Speaker 1: then somehow some way it got dislodged and moved. And
Speaker 1: because I continued to bleed heavily throughout the whole time
Speaker 1: it was initially inserted, it moved. I don't know you
Speaker 1: had a big old dick. I have. It depends, but
Speaker 1: I'm married to a woman, but I have other partners. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well then can I ass that's my shirt? Polly, Polly,
Speaker 1: I seek? Can I ask you then as Um, a
Speaker 1: woman with a wife and in that relationship, why you
Speaker 1: chose to get some things so long term? Um? Is
Speaker 1: it because you're Polly? Well? Kind of? It was my
Speaker 1: period um I was starting as I got older, I'm
Speaker 1: forty three. Um, I started to have longer periods that
Speaker 1: were my creamps were becoming more painful. So I it
Speaker 1: was suggested by my O B. G. Ryan to first
Speaker 1: start taking the pill I had. I started the pill
Speaker 1: and bled for like forty plus t so got off
Speaker 1: of that one to a Justin and then she recommended
Speaker 1: the marina and we'll try that out. So that seems
Speaker 1: to work and that one? Did you get the one
Speaker 1: for I think there's an option, asked me, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, um, bow as well, there's one that's
Speaker 1: good for five years, the one that's good for ten years,
Speaker 1: that marina. You have the five year one, okay, and
Speaker 1: there others what are the three others? So there's a
Speaker 1: five year, a ten year, and what are the other ones?
Speaker 1: So the ten years just a copper letter. Oh that's
Speaker 1: just the copper one, okay, five years? Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: they're the three years soriah um, I imedted you what
Speaker 1: is your experience so UM after a mishap after stopping
Speaker 1: the pills because I started with the pills fairly late
Speaker 1: in my life. UM, and then I end up getting
Speaker 1: pregnant with my new partner who I'm currently with now. UM,
Speaker 1: and I had a medically suggested or medically advised abortion.
Speaker 1: So I had the I d the Merina for three years, UM,
Speaker 1: got off of it about a year and a half ago,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually having trouble conceiving so UM. I also
Speaker 1: do struggle for PCOS, so that's also a complication. UM.
Speaker 1: The birth control was supposed to regulate my period, which
Speaker 1: it did, but it like made it like almost kind
Speaker 1: of like incognito. It kind of disappeared. UM. And so
Speaker 1: now we're trying to get myself my body back into
Speaker 1: this normal ovulation flow.