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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of four Decisions. Guys. I feel

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Speaker 1: a sex podcast. Welcome. This is your girl, Mandy b

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Speaker 1: a little suspect our first meal. Escort, Like, I definitely

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Speaker 1: But I feel like escort you have to do it all.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if you want to make a decent

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Speaker 1: first of all, good morning, good afternoon, and good evening.

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Speaker 1: Do you everyone? Depended on where you are in the world,

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Speaker 1: my name is Anthony and Santi, I am a professional

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Speaker 1: boy friends oh, male escort catering to women only. Well,

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Speaker 1: read this. All right, Hey, Mandy and Wheezy. I know

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Speaker 1: It's not just dick that's it. But you like, men

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Speaker 1: I feel like there are. I felt like it it

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Speaker 1: let's just say that maybe you're too awkward to go out.

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00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: Maybe like you, you're not as confident enough. I think

427
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: this is the easiest thing to like. I see, I

428
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: can't believe you can't get it. I mean, we can't

429
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: get a lot of things, Like we don't agree on

430
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: a lot of things. That's just one thing. I genuinely

431
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: I don't understand aother woman just because I know how

432
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: how open I mean, just how easy it is to

433
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: get a man, I guess. But my question, that's that's

434
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: really not the issue. Most of my clients, uh can

435
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: get men. They just want certain types of men, and

436
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: they want it in a certain way. Okay, So and

437
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: there I have I have clients who if they can't

438
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: pay a man for their companionship, they don't want them.

439
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: They don't want him. Do you notice that that is

440
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: a certain type of job from that woman? Like that

441
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: sounds to me like I feel like it may be

442
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: it may be that, but more than often, uh more

443
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: often than not, they want someone that is going to

444
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: be there for them and not going to burden them

445
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: down with their own crap going on in their own heads.

446
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have to tell you that some

447
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: men have big, big drama, and they bring all that

448
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: baggage with them too a relationship with a woman. Some

449
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: women don't have time for their crap. Women who are

450
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: very successful have a lot going on. They don't have

451
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: time for that. Do you find that. I feel like

452
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: when we've watched glorified male escorts on TV or something

453
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: like that, we assume they're younger. But when I was

454
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: watching Gigglos on Showtime, like there was men were in

455
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: their forties. They weren't necessarily this like model looking Abracambie,

456
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: like twenty year old kid. And I'm curious to know

457
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: if you feel like your experience or age, or whatever

458
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: kind of level you have in life has been more

459
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: of an asset to you. Um. Yes, I'm no spring chicken.

460
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: I am in my forties. Um, but what I bring

461
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: to my adventures with clients is that I am I

462
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: have life experiences. I was a husband, I'm a father,

463
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm a son to my parents. Um, I've been in

464
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: business before. I have all these things, these life experiences

465
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: that I can bring to the table and discuss with women.

466
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: And that's one interesting thing. Yeah, all of my clients,

467
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: I'll say it that the conversations that we have is

468
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: just as important is to them is anything else that

469
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: we do with With the question that we had earlier,

470
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: I know Mandy and I both were like white women, right,

471
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know your first experience was with a

472
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: black woman with your time as a male escort, when

473
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: you've had white female clients, why not you only sleep

474
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: with women? But have you encountered some like I want

475
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: to try my first black I want to be with

476
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: a black guy, and like, has that been some of

477
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: the experiences that, Yeah, can you tell us about that.

478
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: I have had some clients that fetishized black males. I

479
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: personally don't have an issue with it. So do you?

480
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Because we had a few questions for some femdoms that

481
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: we've had that were black women that know they're being fetishized,

482
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: but it's most like I'm getting paid for it, so

483
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: let me run through them. Do you feel like that?

484
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's easier because you're getting paid

485
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: for it. It's just a service. How do you check

486
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: out of that. UM, I don't police what's in a

487
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: woman's say it? It's my My role is to be

488
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: there for uh, warmth, tenderness, to make her feel whole

489
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: and connected. Whatever it took for her to reach out

490
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: to me, uh is her concern. It's her. Um, it's hers.

491
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to navigate art to police that. Can

492
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: I ask you where your clients find you, like I'm

493
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: familiar with of course, like seeking arrangement? What's your place

494
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: in the dating sites or in eros? Like I have

495
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: a lot of friends on eros. If a man wanted

496
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: to be I guess on a website or find clients?

497
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: How do you go about doing that? Isn't an agency?

498
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: Is a website that you're on? Like? How do your

499
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: clients find you? Um? My clients, most of my clients

500
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: needs that these days off from referrals from other clients.

501
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: Having said that, uh, some clients find me on my website,

502
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: some on the other social media outlets. Have you ever

503
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: this is random? And I just thought about that when

504
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: you were saying you don't police what's going on in

505
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: your mind? Have you ever had to cut a client

506
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: off for either how they were treating you or because

507
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: maybe they were falling in love, Like, can you tell

508
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: us about someone you better cut off over the years,

509
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming not everything is worth the money. No

510
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: it isn't. But having said that, I've never had to

511
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: cut off? What's been your longest client? How many years? Um?

512
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: Six years? Have you ever had someone say like, okay,

513
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: like I know you're into me too, Like I don't

514
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: want to pay you anymore? Has that ever happened? Wouldn't

515
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: you feel like a man would start doing it? What

516
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: I feel I could see a man saying men do

517
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: do that? Um. Some of my female escort friends, UM

518
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: talk about it all the time if you're enjoying the sex,

519
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: that they're attractive and they're assuming, like, well, yeah, I

520
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: feel like it's like I just feel like it's a

521
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: little different, especially because I mean I've been on the

522
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: receiving end of it where I've been a companion to

523
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: someone who was married and I benefited off of it

524
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: through payment and gifts and those sort of things. UM.

525
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: And I think that there does become a time where men,

526
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: because of their ego, don't want to feel like you're

527
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: only around them because they're doing something for you, Like eventually,

528
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: especially if you're giving even to these women that companionship

529
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: to where now they feel needed, they feel wanted, they

530
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: feel like you're interested in them. I think that it's

531
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: a little mind funk after a while, like damn, we

532
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: really vibe in. But is this all act? Does this

533
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: woman really enjoy me? And so I think that there

534
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: has been lines where yeah, a man will be like, dang,

535
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: I gotta pay you this time too. This is the

536
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: arrangement we got into. Yes, you have to pay me.

537
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: And as soon as like the dynamics, ships changed, or

538
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I feel like they want more like a relationship. This

539
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: we didn't start off as wanting a relationship. And I

540
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: think that the women, I guess and differently, they're very

541
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: upfront with what they want from you. And I think

542
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: with men, most men though, yeah, and most men, I

543
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: think after a while, especially if they're paying for companionship,

544
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: they want to feel actually wanted and not used. Men

545
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: hate feeling like tricks, and I think it does give

546
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: a woman power to feel like to use to use

547
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: it in a difference, you know what I mean to

548
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: see that it's a little different. How has um Corona

549
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: impacted your work? Um it has, I'm sure for a

550
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: lot of sex workers. It has for sure. Yeah, but

551
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: it's actually starting to pick up. We see in Atlanta

552
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: to stay out the talking in pools. What, um, what's

553
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing someone's asked you for that you had

554
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: to say no to? What is it the weirdest thing to?

555
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: And interesting enough, women don't act for these things. You

556
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: know what's crazy? Believe if I'm paying somebody, oh you know,

557
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: I but here, here's here's the issue, and I want

558
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: to make sure I I really bring this home. It

559
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: is really less about the sex than the boyfriend experience,

560
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: more about uh, someone that helps you to feel whole connected,

561
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: a lot um attended to those sorts of things. Now,

562
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: that's now. The reason that most guys can't do it,

563
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: and especially a husband or a boyfriend, is because life

564
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: is hectic. Life. We have so much going on. We

565
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: have a job that is usually eight hours. We spent

566
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: an hour trying to get ready to get to the

567
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: job or preparing together there, an hour coming back. It's

568
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: already ten hours in the day for seven or eight Yeah, tired,

569
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: you know after all that, after that, that's good, seventeen

570
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: eighteen hours, you're you're you're selling me on this. But

571
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: now that I thought about husband, has a husband ever

572
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: found out about you? Uh? I do not know for

573
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: sure he got the same. I've had clients that cut me.

574
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: They never called you, like no man's ever called you

575
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: and say who is this? Uh No, But I had

576
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: clients that saw them disappeared disappeared however way they I

577
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: will say this that most of the time, UM, couples

578
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: are close to of my clientele, and UM, most of

579
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: the time it is the husband are the boyfriends? Couples

580
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: are your clientele? Stop let me stop you there. Couples

581
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: are your clientele, your professional boyfriend though our men hiring

582
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: them for you for their wives? Is it a cup

583
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: holding situation? No? Okay, okay, the husbands are engaging me

584
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: for their wives. Now. Um. When that happens, usually they

585
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: are the ones that initially contact me and work out

586
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: all of the details. Do they ever? Has one ever

587
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: asked you to like, met her at this bar, don't

588
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: let her know about paying you. That's interesting that so

589
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: the husbands do this for you. Okay, wait, wait, this

590
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: is really interesting to me because the wife aint never

591
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: solicted to me. I'll be honest, Well, what kind of

592
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: maybe not? I'm sure that. Do you find that it's

593
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: because they don't have the time to dedicate or they

594
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: feel like they're not pleasing their partners sexually. No, it

595
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: could be. It could be that. But most of the time,

596
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: what I find is that, uh, the husband and wife

597
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: have been together for some time and they felt that

598
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: it is time to open up their relationship, and they

599
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: want to do it in such a way that I

600
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: am not going to be interfering in their relationship, that

601
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: I Am not going to uh harm her in any way. Um,

602
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: he wants someone that is professional, karen, loving, kind and

603
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: all those things and and well like a queen, although

604
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: you won't get interfering right into their relationship. Nine years

605
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: six years is a long time for someone. Have you

606
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: ever fallen for a client and how do you protect

607
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: yourself from doing that? A lot of our listeners I've

608
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: considered getting into sex work things like that, or even

609
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: if they're just kind of I think the normal way

610
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: that we see it today is girls with d M guys,

611
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: whether the rappers or athletes or whatever, and because they're

612
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: attractive and maybe somebody you would be with for free,

613
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: they don't know how to differentiate that. Have you ever

614
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: fallen for someone and can you tell us like how

615
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: that worked out. It's very difficult to answer that question

616
00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: because I tell me what fault that means to you?

617
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: To me, falling for someone means you can't separate it

618
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: as work anymore. No say that, I agree. I mean

619
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: I think that it's been even with me, like I

620
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I from my Nigerian that I had. I played every

621
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: role that he wanted me to be, and I've really

622
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: cared for him as a person, but when he stopped

623
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: being able to pay me, it was pretty easy to

624
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: walk away. And I think that that's a lot of

625
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: the relationships that you get into. But I think it

626
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: has more so to do with knowing what it is

627
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: up front, and like I've said, even with dealing with

628
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: married men, because there's nothing in my mind or mentally,

629
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: I know there's a blockage for what we can eventually

630
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: be in the future because it to me, I don't

631
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: think that I could ever marry this man. There's already

632
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: a mental blockage as to well, I know what this

633
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: is already and you keep it there. And I mean,

634
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: when you're in this industry, especially with a lot of

635
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: women like you may still care for the person but

636
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, this is

637
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: a role I mean, and that's truly what meant by

638
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: falling for right, because I'm sure, like I'm sure you care. Right,

639
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: It's hard for how can you be like a total robot?

640
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: But that is what I meant though, Like, have you

641
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: ever got to the point where like, fucking I don't care?

642
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: I care for all my clients. Yeah, we have a report,

643
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: we have mutual care and concern for one another, but

644
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: we know that it is a a a relationship that

645
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: is too, that is of two points. It is a

646
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: personal relationship and it is a business relationship. How do

647
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: you for for a lot of questions we had, like

648
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: people were asking about safety and I read the drin

649
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: we were in the military, but still like safety, what

650
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: precautions could a man take that is going to do this?

651
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: A lot of men are worry they would get robbed

652
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: or something like that, like is it vetting? Is it

653
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: your place versus there's what a safety look like for

654
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: a meal escort. Because we always are worried about women,

655
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: but we never really consider truly that safety of men.

656
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: It's going to be different for each guy. Um, I

657
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: would say that if you're going into this line of

658
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: work with fears about what if? Guess what is that

659
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: You're not right for this position? That makes sense. You

660
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: have to go with your authentic not being afraid of

661
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: anything or anyone. But how do you prepare though? Because

662
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: I get I get you not living in fear, but

663
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: there still has to be safety precautions that I would

664
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: have seen me take like my friends. Like my friend

665
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: she worked on eros, her safety precaution was asking for

666
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: an I D. And running it through a background check

667
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: to make yeah, to make sure that this person is

668
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: exactly who they say they are. And I mean I've

669
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: had also girls who hired security guards who would be

670
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: outside the door. See I think I first meant is

671
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: the coal harm? But I am curious now talking about

672
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: vetting because I know a lot of those sites are

673
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: gone because he's has to how does your vetting process work?

674
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: If it's not word of mouth, Well, they're going to

675
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: contact me and say, um, Sharon, Karen, whatever you know

676
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: told me about you? Um, do you have any time?

677
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: So it's always word of mouth for you. I was

678
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: gonna say, what so say someone hits you on your

679
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Twitter or your Instagram. You're very upfront with what you

680
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: do and what services you offer this companionship. So say

681
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: it's not a referral. Say someone slides in your d

682
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: M s and it's like I heard you on horrible decisions? Um,

683
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: do you're everything that I'm looking for? How do you

684
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: know that this person, say, isn't a cop? How do

685
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: you know this person is really serious and willing to

686
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: pay your rates? Like, how do you vet that person

687
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: to know whether you want to move forward with them

688
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: or not? Sure? That's a good question. Uh, there are

689
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: a number of things that I will have them do

690
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: and uh, for instance, um, you have to pay a

691
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: deposit to see me smart. If they don't fail deposit,

692
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: I know they're not serious. If they just got a

693
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: text today saying are you available now? You cannot go

694
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: to my website. You can't find any add that I've

695
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: posted anywhere on this planet that doesn't say no text please.

696
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: I will not respond to it. I know that that

697
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: person is not serious or either is oblivious to everything.

698
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: Either way, he or she will not make a good client.

699
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: You sound like a hairstylist then, because the real quick

700
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: because when you need a book to get your hair done,

701
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: they'd be like, no deal, no text book through the

702
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Lincoln Bio do style see you literally just sounded like

703
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: a hairstyle. I ain't really met the same because when

704
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: people don't time, don't waste my time. And you can

705
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: pick up on that too. Like a person who isn't

706
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: reading or can't even follow instructions, you know they probably

707
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: not even serious. How is that procedures in process? Now?

708
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: If you want, if you like the fact that I

709
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: am a professional, respect that I have procedures and processes

710
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: and that you need to um go through them all.

711
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: So you're speaking is though what you do as a business,

712
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: and it is? But how is it legal that? But

713
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: we know none of this is legal? Well, I disagree

714
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: because not to me, how I would answer that question

715
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: if I was an escort. Is someone's paying me for

716
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: my companionship and if I decide to have sex with

717
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: them as my choice? That won't work in the court

718
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: of law, will it not? That's what I'm asking you

719
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: in your experience. Well, I'm not a lawyer. I only

720
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: played more but uh, any a prosecutor can make a

721
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: case for a difficure in things now. I have had

722
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: a client where we just laid in the bed and

723
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: watch television. She paid me for my time. No prosecutor

724
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: is going to A prosecutor could probably you know, uh

725
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: file charges, but it's not going to fly. No one's

726
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: going to convicted that. It was just it was just companionship.

727
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: Now there is also if you contract directly for sex,

728
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: then that is I'm a face um um illegal on

729
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: its face illegal. However, suppose you contract to uh for

730
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: me to cook your dinner at your place and uh

731
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: and that was it hold home and things got a

732
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: little hot and heavy, right and it uh escalated to

733
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: the bedroom. Is that against the law You got contracted

734
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: to cook, So I guess it's yet. How so if

735
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: they go through the ways of how it goes. But

736
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: that's why even um John or like undercovers were mostly

737
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: make sure they let it know that I'm here for sex.

738
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: And that's why they also cannot arrest the girl or

739
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: or the sex worker until they accept the payment, knowing

740
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: that sex has agreed upon. I just watched that with

741
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: you on Hollywood on Netflix. Yeah, that's yeah. She was like, oh,

742
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: please just say He's like, why, I don't deal with it.

743
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: She's like, please please take this tip. Yeah, and when

744
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: he took it, that's when she he was arrested. Do

745
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: you want to get into the whole confession or how

746
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: many do you have a question? I just do want

747
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: to ask really quickly. Um, if you date people in

748
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: your private life, m uh, I do not really. So

749
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: in nine years you have and had a girlfriend. No,

750
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: I was married. Oh you were married before you started. No,

751
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I was married when I started. Now let me ship

752
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: I love and this is the whole confession. Tell us

753
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: about that because you said was so? Was she like,

754
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore? Um? We had we were

755
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: having problems, um, and we separated and uh then the

756
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: crisis came while we were separated. I decided to do

757
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: this and uh then she contacts me and says that, um,

758
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: she wants to work it out and try again. And

759
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: UM I looked at it and thought, okay, well this

760
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: is the time to let her know. This is what

761
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm providing companionship to him. Is that an

762
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 1: issue for you? What was she saying? Now? She said

763
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't an issue for her. So you guys decided

764
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: to reconcile the marriage and she allowed you to keep

765
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: doing this. Was there any rules or guidelines that she

766
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: gave you, like as far as protection or no, she

767
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: did she want to know about it? Did she ask

768
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: you about your encounters or your other or your clients? Wow,

769
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: she didn't even want to talk about it. Well, we

770
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: talked about it. If she asked me some questions or

771
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: if I had to go see a client out let him. No,

772
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to see a client. I feel like mom

773
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: and came home. I like, what was she like? What

774
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: was she saying? What did you do that? Because you're

775
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: so it's so curious. Did you find that maybe it

776
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: would be it would be easier not to discuss it,

777
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: Like I can only imagine for a sex worker that

778
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: is dating someone and wants to open up, or maybe

779
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: even someone who's listening that has a new found relationship,

780
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: like figuring out that boundary I guess between each other

781
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: for communication. I'm actually curious. You said you were married

782
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: and she was okay with it when you brought it

783
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: to her, But is that the reason you're no longer married?

784
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: Did it become to where she actually did end up

785
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: having an issue with it later? I think it was

786
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: partly uh involved. What I think was primarily happening in

787
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the final breakup was that some of the old issues

788
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: that led to the original breakup, and of course my

789
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: being a professional boyfriend for women did not help the matter,

790
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: so all that came to bear. Do you feel like

791
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: you do better at your job being single? What do

792
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: you mean? Do you think that it's easier to do

793
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: this job? Maybe you have less in your mind, maybe

794
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: you just have more energy to give. Do you feel

795
00:47:53,280 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: it it's easier to do this job single versus being married? Um? No, No,

796
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: And the reason why is that, UM, being in this

797
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: work has actually help me to be a better husband

798
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: or boyfriend and have better relationships with women, even even

799
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: female friends. Are are my mother's and my sisters because

800
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: my energy now is so respectful, loving, caring, being empathetic

801
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: and know how to um navigate. And that's my last

802
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: question before we get out of here. Um, you mentioned

803
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 1: your sisters, your mother, So a lot of women find

804
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: shame in opening up about being sex workers to their family.

805
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: Is that something that your family knows of as a

806
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: part of your life? Do you keep your k do

807
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: you keep that away from your family? Knowing well, my

808
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: family and my closest friends know, uh, my mother And

809
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: it's very interesting story I like to tell the story.

810
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: When I told her what I told I was a

811
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: male escort. Her first question was for women or men? Gay?

812
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: Now that's that's I mean, I think that that That

813
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: was honestly, one of the most asked questions when we

814
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: said you were coming on was what does he escort?

815
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: For men? And women? Like? That was a common question.

816
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: Do They seemed to have a concern with that, like

817
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: do women ask you that? Do you do men to like? Oh? Yeah,

818
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: See here's the thing, Um, my clients are very driven,

819
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: very successful, very accomplished women, and they want men who

820
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: can interact with them in a particular way. Now because

821
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: they're dry, and that's what I think they have to

822
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: take on masculine because we are so you are here

823
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: playing Stetman. Huh, what's what's Steedman is who Oprah got

824
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: and we all know that he's around, Like, well, when

825
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: I if I would say that Stedman is poised, he's attractive. Yeah,

826
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 1: he's not someone that seems like he can't get a woman.

827
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: He doesn't seem like a user, because you know he could. However,

828
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: she's rich, she's she's like, you are my boyfriend, need

829
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: you do anything else? Just focus on me because I'm

830
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: sucking rich and she has that much power, and then

831
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: of course our friend is game. But the Steadman thing

832
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: is always interesting because I have heard people talk about

833
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: Steedman in that way. I'm like, oh, like he just

834
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: gets to sit around or whatever. But I'll be honest,

835
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: when you look at a man like that with his age,

836
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: that looks the way he does, and he seems to

837
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: treat her very well in public, I don't see why

838
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: you would think he wouldn't have somebody. But it wouldn't

839
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: make sense because I'm sure you may be solicited to

840
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: go to company dinners, company functions, and I mean I

841
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: remember when I was an accountant that was my thing,

842
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: dealing with certain guys. I was like, oh, now I

843
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: need someone to look the part for me. So I

844
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: understand if these women don't have the time to go

845
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: out and date and find partners, that you can't fulfill

846
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: that role but also be in a room to where

847
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: you blend in with their collegue. What percentage of clients

848
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: do you think you sleep with? Probably about that's honest,

849
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: And just my last one. Okay, what boundaries do you have?

850
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: If any? Is there something you don't allow or are

851
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: rules that you give clients, I guess disrespect, and I

852
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: want to talk about that for four minutes because I've

853
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: heard the term thrown around here for a minute and

854
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: I'd be um, I'd don't use those terms, uh, these

855
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: ages and the N word. I know that humans are

856
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: much deeper. We are a forced in the universe to

857
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: be reckoned with other beings, admire us other beings. Um

858
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: if we h concerning the N word. I have done

859
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: some study about people of African descent, and that word

860
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 1: is just incorrect on so many levels. Politically, you don't.

861
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: Politically it's incorrect because you don't let someone who has

862
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: been an enemy to you define who you are. You

863
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: don't take on those terms. Geographically, when we look around

864
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: the world and we see black people, the vast majority

865
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: of us come from Africa. You got some from uh,

866
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: the the Australia. You've got blacks in Papua New Guinea,

867
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: you got blacks in the Peloponnation Islands, Oceania, so on

868
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: and so forth. But most of them have connections with Africa.

869
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: They just say that they migrated from Africa fifty to

870
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand years ago. Are some folks even say

871
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Africa came from them. So and we have certain ways,

872
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: certain um characteristics, we do things in a certain way.

873
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: History tells us that the vast majority of us in

874
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: the United States, in the Caribbean and South America come

875
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: from this place that we now know as Africa, and

876
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: that we are if you listen to Dr Us have

877
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: been y'all, and and who actually lived here from lived

878
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: here for many years in New York, And if you

879
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: listen to Dr John Henry Clark, we were the pyramid builders.

880
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: Just because our political, social, and economic situation is on

881
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: the bottom now in the world doesn't mean that we

882
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: were always there and our great civilizations we were known

883
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: as the most generous, the most loving, the most kindness,

884
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: and the smartest folks on the planet. So I go

885
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: through life knowing that I am much greater, that we

886
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: are all much greater than what somebody tells us we are,

887
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: and that some people say we are. In the popular

888
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: media visa the hip hop, it has contaminated us and

889
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: contaminated our minds. Man, we are in cannons class. I

890
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: was like, well, y'all, that is something for y'all to

891
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: think on and ponder. Um we I mean, I've gone

892
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: into meetings, asking what my incount, what my in word

893
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: count was. So I appreciate you having that outlook on it,

894
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: But anyone who listens to this show, I mean I

895
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: embraced it the same way we race the word or

896
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: the same way we embrace the word slut, bitch. I

897
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: mean it's something I called my homegirls. That's kind of

898
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: just like it is. It's a way of life and

899
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: how we talk um. But would you hire me if

900
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: I called you a b an h? I mean it

901
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: depends if you say beach. I mean, it all depends

902
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: on how you think it's the same. I can tell

903
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: you this, my clients would not. But I also don't

904
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: expect that if a woman I don't know where a

905
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: man I don't know what to call me that. But

906
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I also think the other difference from it is much

907
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: like the N word. If it's used between two black people,

908
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: there's a different meaning. But I mean between a black

909
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: person saying it to another black person in camaraderie than

910
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: a white person saying it to me, much like no

911
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: one's calling you a bit. But I've had that words

912
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: weaponized and used against me, much like horror. Right, So

913
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: so if I use it in a way that's a

914
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: sisterhood for us and be like, Okay, bitch, I'll look

915
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: at your hole and I mean I think it's the

916
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: way you you receive it. I do. Um, guys, we

917
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: are gonna put his name in the description of this episode. Um,

918
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: do you want to go ahead and say you're at

919
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: name just so anyone listening can find you if they

920
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: are interested in asking questions or anything. Sure, Um, you

921
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter, which is Anthony A and

922
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925
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Speaker 1: is Anthony dot Asanti, and on Facebook is Anthony as

926
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: santi one the number. And again, guys, that's all going

927
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: to be in the description of this episode and my

928
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Speaker 1: website and his website Anthony com Boom. There you go.

929
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: That's everything you need to know if you're interested in

930
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: asking him any questions or receiving a companion. Guys, we

931
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: are also going to leave you with a five minute

932
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,800
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933
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Speaker 1: speed somewhere. But check it out and thank you guys

939
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: for supporting us. You want to leave off with anything

940
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: Tuesday's check out for facts sake. I think last week

941
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: we did sugar. Who fucking knows what we'll do this week?

942
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: Random stuff, fashion, sugar eggs. I think I want to

943
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: do semen next, but I feel like I know everything

944
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: about it, so this really should be something that I

945
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it should be something I

946
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I don't have Mandy come in as

947
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: an expert. If it's semen, I ain't no semen a

948
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: supper I used to. I really enjoyed common condom sex

949
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: for all long as time I wanted to catch a

950
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 1: no noot. Anyways, guys, make sure you go ahead. Thank

951
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: you Anthony for joining us. Go ahead and check out

952
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953
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Speaker 1: Horror Decisions. Um I had, then I U D and

954
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: next one on Oh you have both Okay. What was

955
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: your experience positive or negative with both? Negative? With both? Okay?

956
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: So the I U D at first seemed really great

957
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: and then I started having problems with BB okay, and

958
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: it was a slight It wasn't a strong it was

959
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: just it was continuous medication would not make it go away.

960
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a very like low case of it.

961
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: So I I'm typically more of a naturally um Morris person,

962
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: and I think that contributed to it. So but after

963
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: I removed it, it cleared up. I never had a

964
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: problem again. Oh wow, okay, and what about what the

965
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: next one? None Um? The next one on is what

966
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: I've had currently since March two thou nineteen, and I've

967
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: had problems with a regular bleeding, heavy bleeding, cramping um.

968
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: And when I say heavy bleeding, I'm talking about two

969
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: to three weeks at a time, offer a couple of weeks,

970
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: and then another two or three weeks. So it's been

971
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: really difficult for me. With the next one, non Um,

972
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: it's so crazy because you saying so we talked about

973
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: the excessive bleeding. Now you're bringing up the b V

974
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: which causes an an odor down there. And essentially these

975
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: are both things that will keep us from having sex,

976
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: and if we wanted to not have sex, we would

977
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: just be absinent. Like ship. We're literally trying to get

978
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: on birth control to have kind of a more control

979
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: of our sex life and not getting pregnant, and yet

980
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: here it is all a lot of these options make

981
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: it to where now we don't even want to have

982
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: sex because now we're bleeding. Now we have an odor,

983
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: Now we have yeast infects, which you know cause pain

984
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: and and it's just really crazy. Jane Um. Thank you

985
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: Krishell for sharing that. Janey, what is your experience with

986
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: either UM the next one on or or the the

987
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: I E d UM. I've been on Marina uh going

988
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: in September two years. I first had it implanted, and

989
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: then somehow some way it got dislodged and moved. And

990
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: because I continued to bleed heavily throughout the whole time

991
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: it was initially inserted, it moved. I don't know you

992
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: had a big old dick. I have. It depends, but

993
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm married to a woman, but I have other partners. Okay,

994
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: all right, well then can I ass that's my shirt? Polly, Polly,

995
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: I seek? Can I ask you then as Um, a

996
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: woman with a wife and in that relationship, why you

997
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: chose to get some things so long term? Um? Is

998
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: it because you're Polly? Well? Kind of? It was my

999
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: period um I was starting as I got older, I'm

1000
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: forty three. Um, I started to have longer periods that

1001
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: were my creamps were becoming more painful. So I it

1002
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,479
Speaker 1: was suggested by my O B. G. Ryan to first

1003
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: start taking the pill I had. I started the pill

1004
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: and bled for like forty plus t so got off

1005
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: of that one to a Justin and then she recommended

1006
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: the marina and we'll try that out. So that seems

1007
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: to work and that one? Did you get the one

1008
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: for I think there's an option, asked me, correct me

1009
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, um, bow as well, there's one that's

1010
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: good for five years, the one that's good for ten years,

1011
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: that marina. You have the five year one, okay, and

1012
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: there others what are the three others? So there's a

1013
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: five year, a ten year, and what are the other ones?

1014
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: So the ten years just a copper letter. Oh that's

1015
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: just the copper one, okay, five years? Yeah, and and

1016
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: they're the three years soriah um, I imedted you what

1017
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: is your experience so UM after a mishap after stopping

1018
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: the pills because I started with the pills fairly late

1019
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: in my life. UM, and then I end up getting

1020
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: pregnant with my new partner who I'm currently with now. UM,

1021
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: and I had a medically suggested or medically advised abortion.

1022
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: So I had the I d the Merina for three years, UM,

1023
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: got off of it about a year and a half ago,

1024
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: and I'm actually having trouble conceiving so UM. I also

1025
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: do struggle for PCOS, so that's also a complication. UM.

1026
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: The birth control was supposed to regulate my period, which

1027
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: it did, but it like made it like almost kind

1028
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: of like incognito. It kind of disappeared. UM. And so

1029
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: now we're trying to get myself my body back into

1030
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: this normal ovulation flow.