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Speaker 4: Yes, what's what's up? BC? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Fired up, Luke Thomas. After the show, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: that PBC on Prime event with Sebastian Fundora. But we

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Speaker 1: are here today to talk about UFC London. Look at

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Speaker 1: the biggest stories of the past few days, involving John Jones,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia, TKO boxing and so much more. How about

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Speaker 1: how about one Championship one seventy two pay per view

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Speaker 1: this weekend, a kickboxing matchup that will be seen and

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Speaker 1: heard round the world, Luke, So get yourselves fired up?

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Speaker 1: All right? Are you feeling what I'm feeling? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Actually, it's a great weekend of combat sports. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: That one championship event featuring Takeru versus Rod Tang is

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Speaker 1: of combat sports. Fired up to be there? You can,

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Speaker 1: Whether you're talking about the BCX, the Luke Thomas experience

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Speaker 1: in a way, and don't forget, of course about the

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Speaker 1: main card. Minute and our producer, director Bong enthusiast and

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Speaker 4: Hey, world world's worst boyfriend.

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Speaker 5: This is this is the run in joke. Guys, I'm

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Speaker 5: it's a great card. It's a totally great card.

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Speaker 4: BC was a little bit down on it pre show.

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Speaker 1: A little not down and not down. He's what was

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Speaker 1: the word you use?

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Speaker 6: No, see that I said I'm hyped for this card

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Speaker 1: No, you use some huge word and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: really like this card. I'm ready. But I was just like,

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Speaker 1: some of those undercard matchups that I may have missed

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Speaker 6: I got you.

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Speaker 5: Also, four fights on this card, pick them odd, It's

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Speaker 5: plenty of money to be made on this card.

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Speaker 4: Are you betting on any of them in any way?

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Speaker 6: Every single fight? Obviously? What kind of question is that.

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Speaker 1: Believe that's so. Is that a one pm Eastern main

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Speaker 7: Said recently on Twitter that you're full of excuses and

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Speaker 8: The way out of talks is like he went out

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Speaker 8: the way he talks just doesn't from what he does

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: So here's what it is. I feel like, Yeah, here's

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Speaker 7: And he said that he's picking Sean Brady obviously this week.

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Speaker 1: Not really?

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Speaker 6: Does not like him.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I don't think there's wouldn't be friends outside

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Speaker 9: No, not really.

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Speaker 7: And Sean Brady told us today in the media day,

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Speaker 8: Talking about I'm not talking about him.

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Speaker 4: You can ask me about him.

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Speaker 7: But do you think it's hard for you to get

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Speaker 1: So you met? You heard in there the mention of

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Speaker 10: I might am I trying to get a title shot

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Speaker 10: out of this? You know, I don't. I might trying

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Speaker 10: to rush it. That's what I did before in my career.

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Speaker 10: I put the blaw fight. I was pushing for that

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Speaker 6: You know, So I'm going to go out there.

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Speaker 10: I'm going to do my job, get my hand raised

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Speaker 10: by any means necessary, and then wherever I go from there,

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much to yeh Sean just here, just

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Speaker 3: going back to you, said yeah here, Oh what's up?

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Speaker 4: Brother? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: If you beat Leon the you'll become the number one contender.

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Speaker 3: Would you be disappointed if the UFC didn't offer you

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Speaker 6: For me? Disappointed if that wasn't your next fight.

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Speaker 10: No, I think I think that's a bad look on

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Speaker 10: thinking about is fighting him. You know, he's thinking about

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Speaker 6: About the law.

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Speaker 10: But he's got someone who's trying to kill him Saturday

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just not who would your ideal opponent be?

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Speaker 6: For your title shot below.

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Speaker 1: Of course, yep, of course we know that you would

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Speaker 4: He admitted, you know this week that a he had

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Speaker 4: there's nothing he can really do about that, obviously, but

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Speaker 4: the point you raised, he had also kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: Like you can't get up for that, Like that's that's

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Speaker 4: just bizarre to me to hear something like that, absolutely bizarre.

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Speaker 4: position to begin with, right, I mean, it's just insane, right, Okay,

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Speaker 4: And so here he is a little bit later, still

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Speaker 4: kind of dismissive of bel all, kind of dismissive of

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Speaker 4: That that is very very true, but that was also

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Speaker 4: too little, too late. I mean, that's also the reality

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Speaker 4: if I was him, And grantedy I'm no position to

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Speaker 4: They don't ever seem to do that. They treat it

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Speaker 4: it looks to me that like that loss that I mean,

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Speaker 4: consider something, BC, consider something. Both Sean Brady and Leon

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Speaker 4: Edwards have losses to Balah Muhammad. Now one was worse

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Speaker 4: about it. But who seems to have learned the lesson

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Speaker 4: better coming out of it? You know, again, that may

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Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned that, you know, Leon is still

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Speaker 1: Sean's trying to say, you're also disrespecting me by not

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Speaker 4: So I think you can I mean, not so much

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Speaker 4: A flurry of that from Sean Brady is typically what

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Speaker 4: And sure enough, that is exactly what happened. But here's

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Speaker 4: think Edwards has real life in this one. Edwards has

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Speaker 4: got under situations like that typically pretty good takedown defense.

438
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Speaker 4: And more to that, he's got really good good strikes

439
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Speaker 4: in the clinch off of the clinch break, in particular elbows.

440
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Speaker 4: He has slashing hardcore elbows right over the top. They

441
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Speaker 4: land against virtually all of his opponents. They score great damage.

442
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Speaker 4: They often do some cutting depending on the situation, obviously,

443
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Speaker 4: but they're very, very very important to everything he does,

444
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Speaker 4: and that's something I think that could really derail what

445
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Speaker 4: Sean Brady is trying to do. But I guess I

446
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Speaker 4: just wanted to point out if you're asking me what

447
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 4: the demarcation line is, it is. Once they are up

448
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 4: against the fence, clinch together, how does Sean Brady drain?

449
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Speaker 4: How does he get him down to the mat. He's

450
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Speaker 4: probably gonna do what I think. What I think he's

451
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Speaker 4: gonna try and do is get behind the elbows of

452
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Speaker 4: Leon Edwards. So then now he can attack from the

453
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Speaker 4: waist behind, trip out the leg, and then just slowly

454
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Speaker 4: bleed him drive. You see, if I think there's a

455
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Speaker 4: stoppage in this fight, I think it's Edwards who stops Brady.

456
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Speaker 4: But if it goes to a decision, I tend to

457
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Speaker 4: think that that should favor Sean Brady. Interesting style class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean to your point, shooters are gonna

459
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Speaker 1: shoot one of your last name as Oswald or Velaskaz.

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Speaker 1: But Luke, we just learned from mac Aliath that you

461
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Speaker 1: don't actually need to take someone down to win with that,

462
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Speaker 1: with that fence scrappling pressure, which is ultimately what he did,

463
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't all that entertaining. Is there snooze fest

464
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Speaker 1: potential in this one?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

466
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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 4: But but also you know, listen, that crowd is going

469
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Speaker 4: to be hyping them up. Leon Edwards talked a lot

470
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Speaker 4: of shit about that being you know, we didn't want

471
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Speaker 4: to fight at five in the morning, fair enough. I

472
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Speaker 4: don't think that that helped anything, But that's not in

473
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Speaker 4: play here anymore. And I do think Sean Brady is

474
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Speaker 4: going to be I mean, Sean Brady is going to

475
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Speaker 4: be grinding certainly up against the fence. There's just no

476
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Speaker 4: doubt that could lead to prolonged periods of stalemate and inactivity.

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Speaker 4: So now here's a question BC, which is, uh, do

478
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Speaker 4: we know who the referee is? We have that?

479
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Speaker 1: I don't have that information? Maybe L I L does

480
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Speaker 1: long is?

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Speaker 4: Look do you have the information?

482
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Speaker 6: But I could google it?

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Please google. That is going to be highly relevant here.

484
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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say one more time for all the

485
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Speaker 4: people who are like I don't want any stand ups

486
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Speaker 4: and if you can't separate. Blah blah blah bullshit. If

487
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Speaker 4: action stalls get involved. I don't know if the referee

488
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Speaker 4: will in this case. But BC, if I'm thinking just

489
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Speaker 4: down the line, what could play a hugely determinative role

490
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Speaker 4: about how this goes if it goes to a decision.

491
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Speaker 4: The extent to which, if their action is stalled, the

492
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Speaker 4: referee does anything about it could play a massive massive.

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Speaker 1: Referees don't do much about it anymore, Luke. So if

494
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Speaker 1: I'm one of them, I'm looking to see who can

495
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Speaker 1: get the first ipoke. But we talked about the physical

496
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Speaker 1: side of it that'll come into play. We know Sean

497
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Speaker 1: Bradley Brady, excuse me, is just a machine, a tank.

498
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Speaker 1: But there we're a little shots fired from Leon Edwards

499
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Speaker 1: regarding the size of Sean Brady when they did stand

500
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Speaker 1: off across from each other. So why don't we do it?

501
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Speaker 1: I think it's time right now for a little shots

502
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Speaker 1: fired brought to you by Queer Vo, and we can

503
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Speaker 1: go to the face off that they did earlier this

504
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Speaker 1: week in London. You can see the height difference and

505
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Speaker 1: here's what Leon Edwards told reporters at Media Day quote,

506
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Speaker 1: I didn't know he was that small. I was walking

507
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Speaker 1: towards him and he had his back turned to me,

508
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Speaker 1: and I looked over and I was like, where the

509
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 1: fuck is Sean? Then he turned around and I was like,

510
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Speaker 1: what the hell? So, yeah, I think he's about five

511
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Speaker 1: eight five nine. Probably. I feel like the skie difference,

512
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Speaker 1: the reach, and the strength will play a big part

513
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Speaker 1: in this fight, Luke, height differences has not stopped certain

514
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Speaker 1: people in mixed martial arts. Look at Joe Rogan's career arc.

515
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Speaker 1: Is this a fair shot being fired by Leon regarding

516
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Speaker 1: the truth you know what he's up against in this fight?

517
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and no. He has a two inch reach

518
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: advantage that should play a role. And of course we've

519
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: seen Sean Brady. We had him on the RSD couch.

520
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 4: He is not a he is not a tall welterweight.

521
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Speaker 4: Is He does not necessarily give off like he's not

522
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: the biggest welter weight I've ever seen. Let's put it

523
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Speaker 4: that way. However, if Sean excuse me, if Leon Edwards

524
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Speaker 4: thinks he's going to have a strength advantage over Sean Brady,

525
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: is he is about to be in for a rude,

526
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Speaker 4: fucking awakening. Absolutely not. He'll get mauled in a strength

527
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: competition there is. There's just no doubt in my mind

528
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Speaker 4: whatsoever about that. Now, of course, skilled fighting means you

529
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Speaker 4: have technique, and technique makes up for a lot of strength.

530
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Speaker 4: All these things are in the wash together. But you know,

531
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Speaker 4: did you see the grip test that they did? Yes?

532
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Speaker 4: Uh yeah. The only guy to beat Sean Brady was

533
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Speaker 4: two zero five or Carlos Alberg, and it was only

534
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: by seven kilos, Like, please be serious about this, Like,

535
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Speaker 4: what are we talking about here? He is a gorilla.

536
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Speaker 4: And other welterweights who have fought, we talked about Michael Kiassa,

537
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Speaker 4: but he ain't the only one have told us Jesus

538
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 4: that guy is strong. So absolutely not. But but BC,

539
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Speaker 4: you know, he is going to be rangier, He's gonna

540
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 4: have better long range weapons. I think kicking is gonna

541
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Speaker 4: be an interesting question here for Leon. Does he do

542
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Speaker 4: it in order to keep maybe some of the hands

543
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Speaker 4: holstered of a guy like Sean Brady? Does he do

544
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 4: it because Sean Brady obviously is gonna be a little

545
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 4: bit more at a disadvantage relatively speaking in terms of

546
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 4: pure striking skill in these ranges. Does he not do it?

547
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: Because he doesn't want to risk it getting taken down.

548
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 4: These are all relevant factors. And Sean Brady to that

549
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: point is, you know, from a from a far wearing sweats,

550
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 4: he doesn't look that imposing, but once he gets his

551
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: hands on you, well, now, now the gorilla begins to

552
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: do what he's gonna do. So I think it's a

553
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Speaker 4: yes and no kind of answer, but it's just this

554
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: is what I mean. This is what I freaking mean.

555
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Speaker 1: BC. Well's another I just wanted to tell you, Luke.

556
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Speaker 1: I just want to interrupt you to say that shots

557
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Speaker 1: Fired has been brought to you by Quervo. And by

558
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Speaker 1: the way, now's a good time. Is any to enjoy

559
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: the teequila that invented tequila? Shout out to querival, this

560
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: was shots fire?

561
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, fair enough, This is what I meant. It's

562
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Speaker 4: fine to observe that your opponent is a little bit

563
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: smaller than maybe you would have imagined, but it just

564
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Speaker 4: seems like yet another log on the fire of him

565
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 4: and being like, oh he's small, I'll have all these

566
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: advantages over him, and it's like, where what is the

567
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: line BC? Between him being very confident as any fighter

568
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 4: should be, and like dismissive and it's a thin line,

569
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Speaker 4: but it just seems to me that Leon's a little

570
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: bit kind of crossing over into that other one all

571
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Speaker 4: the time.

572
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Speaker 1: I mean, it isn't this part of the reason why

573
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Speaker 1: we overlooked him on the rise up and said, you know,

574
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: he's he's not marketable enough. He never got his receipt

575
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: back against Mosmitol for that backstage incident. Nate almost solved

576
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: him weird eye poke in the first BALLLL fight there,

577
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: I mean yet yet Luke round five headshot dead and

578
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Speaker 1: the Rocky story came to life. So as we turn

579
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Speaker 1: this into our prediction, here, will the real Leon Edwards

580
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: please stand up? Which one are we getting? We getting Leon?

581
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: Are we getting Rocky? On Saturday?

582
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: I think we're getting Leon. I think we're getting Lee.

583
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, we talked about we started this conversation

584
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: talking about the odds. This is a close one. And

585
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 4: if people don't believe in Sean Brady because of what happened,

586
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: let's say, and not just in the Bala Muhammed fight,

587
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: but like go back to the Michael Kiessa fight where

588
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: he was able to win that one with positional control,

589
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 4: but he had some real damage is you know, there

590
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: wasn't enough damage that he was putting it on him.

591
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 4: I think those are fair considerations. I think that that's

592
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Speaker 4: absolutely something that you should take seriously, and you know,

593
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: listen if you want to be like, hey, I think

594
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Speaker 4: Lean is an underdog is a good betting proposition. I

595
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: fully understand that as well. But in preparation for today,

596
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: I rewatched the Gilbert Burns fight some other ones here

597
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Speaker 4: from from Sean Brady, I really feel like he has

598
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Speaker 4: learned a lot of valuable lessons from that loss, That's

599
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Speaker 4: what I mean. And the way in which he was

600
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Speaker 4: able to overcome a very sturdy Gilbert Burns, yes, the

601
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Speaker 4: thirty eight Gilbert Burns, of course, but one who still

602
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: has very good jiu jitsu, very good defensive wrestling, and

603
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: obviously a wealth of experience, and to be able to

604
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: just put it on him even more as the fight

605
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: went long. I just thought it was very impressive. Kept

606
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: himself safe in the stand up. PC didn't make a

607
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: lot of errors. That was a big one before. I

608
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: like Sean Brady in this contest, and I think it

609
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: look again to the point you raised, could it be boring,

610
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: Yes it could. I absolutely but I feel like he's

611
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: ready to really make a push here and we'll see

612
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: what happens on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Here's the interesting question, though, what if Leon doesn't have

614
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Speaker 1: these concerns we're talking about. What if we get you know,

615
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: seventy five to one hundred percent of the best Leon,

616
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Speaker 1: And what if he's able to stop the takedown consistently.

617
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: What if he has weapons for the clinch to keep

618
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Sean away? If this turns into a five round kickboxing bout,

619
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Speaker 1: has Brady evolved his game enough to beat a former

620
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: top five pound for pound guy. That's why I'm still

621
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Speaker 1: leaning with the underdog Leon, because I believe Luke he's

622
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: gonna be better than he showed mentally verbally this week.

623
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Speaker 1: And I still have questions whether Sean Brady, if he

624
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Speaker 1: has to go toe to toe with somebody, can get

625
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: the best of them.

626
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: Is concern here, Yeah, totally if he can't. So, Sean

627
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: Brady averages three point five takedowns per fifteen minutes, so

628
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: more than one around Now, he doesn't have to get

629
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Speaker 4: that every single round obviously, Like I think there was

630
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: a round in maybe round two or something, he didn't

631
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Speaker 4: get any takedowns on Gilbert burns. It doesn't have to

632
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: get up every single round. But basically, if he can't

633
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Speaker 4: get takedowns, I don't think he can be Leon. I

634
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: think it's as simple as that. You know, by the way,

635
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Speaker 4: I don't think that's exclusive to Sean Brady. I think

636
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Speaker 4: there's actually a lot of welterweights who if they were

637
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Speaker 4: forced to just to just stand with him, could they win?

638
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: You know, could could Bela Muhammed, who's the freaking champion.

639
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: Could he have won if he just had to stand

640
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: with him? You know, I don't know about that. That's

641
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: a completely different proposition at that point. So to your point,

642
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: if we end up in a place where like the

643
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: takedowns just isn't happening, 're entering round three, you know

644
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 4: Sean Brady is in some trouble in that scenario for sure.

645
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Speaker 1: All right. I'm leaning Leon, Luke is leaning Brady. They're

646
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Speaker 1: odds once again from DraftKings plus one thirty Rocky Edwards

647
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Speaker 1: minus one fifty five Sean Brady. Were bringing our betting

648
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Speaker 1: expert Nosita Settle the difference. What's the value bet here

649
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: and who do you think really wins this?

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Speaker 5: The value bet is definitely Leona plus money personally, I'm

651
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 5: taking the over two and a half in a parlay.

652
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 6: Fuck man, you both make good points. Just straight up,

653
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 6: gun to your head, gun to my head.

654
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 5: I'm going headshot, bet headshot, dead baby.

655
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: There it is, there it is. Let's get into this

656
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: fantastic co main event. Both of these light heavyweights in

657
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: this crossroads matchup believe that a victory will elevate them

658
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: immediately to a title shot against the winner of the

659
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: expected rematch between malcom Met and Caliaf and former champion

660
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: Alex Pereira. This time it's forty two year old former

661
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: champion himself, Yon Blohovich, coming back after nearly two years

662
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: off due to double shoulder surgery. Surgery recovery is so

663
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: difficult that he considered retirement multiple times. But he's back

664
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: and he's a plus two forty five underdog according to

665
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: DraftKings against a streaking, handsome Carlos Olberg, who is minus

666
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: three to five favorite coming in. Luke, I believe this

667
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: is a three round fight. I haven't seen any evidence

668
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: to suggest it's a five round fight. But do you

669
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: think those odds are acceptable given the questions coming in

670
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: on Yon? Or maybe should the betting odds have been

671
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: focused on that. As good as Olberg is, he's riding

672
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: a hell of a wind streak. He's only fall Volcanosdamir

673
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: of those higher level guys. That's got to come into

674
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: play when you're handicapping this matchup.

675
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't think the odds are crazy on this one.

676
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: You know, Okay, you know I've I've had shoulder reconstruction.

677
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: I've had I tore my labor completely and my shoulder

678
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: fell out of my socket in my sleep. I mean

679
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: it was it was bad, you know, not everyone's rehab

680
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: is the same. But I didn't feel right until about

681
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: a year later. It took forever for shit to feel

682
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: like it was normal again. I did aggressive physical therapy

683
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: to get it back. And this happened when I was

684
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: twenty nine, not when I was thirty nine or forty.

685
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: Completely different proposition. He had that on not one, but

686
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: two shoulders. I mean, understand something like your knee just bends,

687
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: that's it. But your shoulder can go to the side,

688
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: it can go forward, it can go backwards, it can

689
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: do all different kinds of stuff. It is a much

690
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 4: more complicated joint to heal. And he had both of them.

691
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: Motherfucker's under surgical repair that is extremely difficult to come

692
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 4: back from and to be in your forties. Now forty

693
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: two offer basically two years. And here's the thing. I've

694
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: not necessarily been the biggest believer in Carlos Alberg. He

695
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: looked interesting as a prospect. He's thirty four. It's not

696
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: like he's a young guy. Granted, thirty four is a

697
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: lot younger than forty two, especially a two of five,

698
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: but you know, you get the point I'm trying to make.

699
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't like he was surging through. But I tell

700
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: you what, man, you're right. The only opponent he's faced

701
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: where I was like, okay, that's a quality opponent he

702
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 4: just beat was the vulcan Uzdemir fight. But I remember

703
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: going into that one, I was like, yeah, I don't

704
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 4: knowho was de Maria looking pretty good here too. I

705
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: think he'll probably beat him. And then Olberg I thought

706
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: performed very well in that contest. I thought he looked

707
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: really really good. Has really understood, like he picked a

708
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: style and he's got this kind of rangy, sort of

709
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: in and out style lateral movement a lot of the times.

710
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 4: You know, he's not really a pocket boxer. In that

711
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 4: way in the same kind of way anyway. I mean,

712
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: he'll do a little bit of it, but not much.

713
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: But he didn't really understand like what maintaining that style meant.

714
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: And it seems to me that he now understands the

715
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: parameters of it much better. He gets it much more,

716
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 4: and he's going to be able to be I think,

717
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: faster in this contest. He's going to be able to

718
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: fight at range, I think, very nimbly. His movement is

719
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: going to be pretty good. And you know, the other

720
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: part too, BC is if I had double shoulder surgery.

721
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure Jan is going to say he, you know,

722
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 4: finally feels comfortable and confident to be able to throw

723
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: punches and like trust that. But I wonder if in

724
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: the back of his mind that that it really will

725
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: be true once the fight actually starts, or you know,

726
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: if you know, he takes a shot to the arm

727
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: even and it, you know, rattles him a little bit,

728
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 4: or you know, anything like that where it can sew

729
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: seeds of doubt or potentially even confusion about how well

730
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: this thing is going to be able to operate or

731
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: up to to work for him through the course of

732
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: that bout the time off we see the age coming

733
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: back from surgery against the guy in Corlos Olberg, who

734
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: looks to me like he's really beginning to put together

735
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 4: all the pieces of his style. Yeah. I totally get

736
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: why the odds are and I fully agree with them.

737
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: All right, let me push back on Yon potentially here. Okay,

738
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: his major blemishes of his you know, reinventive, rejuvenated late

739
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: thirties have come in three of his last four fights,

740
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: right where, of course, talking about the title loss relatively

741
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: early and quickly to gol Over to Shia, that majority

742
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: draw against Maga Man and Caliath for the vacant title

743
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: in which Jahan was taken down and controlled late, and

744
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: of course the split decision loss in Alex Pereira's two

745
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: oh five debut two years ago. But Yon Toldarielhwani and

746
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: to sit down two weeks ago that the shoulders issue

747
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: started all the way back in the twenty nineteen Israel

748
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: out of or sorry, twenty twenty one Israel out of

749
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: Sonia title defense at two hundred five pounds. So that's

750
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: that entire run where he had legitimate trouble and some

751
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: degree with those shoulders and was compromised. I did sit

752
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: down with the on Bohovis this week on the Brian

753
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: Campbell Experience, where I basically teed that up. I said, look,

754
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: you've had shoulder problems going back to the out of

755
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: Sonya fight. How much did that play a role in

756
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: these draw in the draw and the two defeats since then?

757
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Let's hear his response. And I know you're never one

758
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: to make excuses. You're always a very honest fighter, and

759
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: we love that about you. But when you look back

760
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: at losing to Pereira or losing.

761
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 9: To no excuse anyway, I don't like excuse Iah, but did.

762
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: That do you back then? Did you have no?

763
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 9: I don't like to talking about this. That was the

764
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 9: shoulders was fucked a long time and that's it. Then

765
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 9: finishing this, you know, if you are sick and you

766
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 9: use it after the fight, don't do it. You know,

767
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 9: stay at home, recover if you have You know, if

768
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 9: you feel steel bad and you know it that you've

769
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 9: got an injury and you go to the fight, don't

770
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 9: excuse after the fight that, oh that was bad because

771
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 9: I haven't broken toe or I have diarrhea.

772
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: I don't care, So stay at home.

773
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: Let's hope not on the diarrhea. Wow. Wow, you don't

774
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: want that in the car?

775
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 9: That would be great, you know, in the fight diarrhea.

776
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: Wow. Shout out to Justin Kish once again.

777
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: I like how every online conversation you have in MMA

778
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: ends up with diarrhea.

779
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question about that. Do you think any

780
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: of that affected him? And is there an idea that

781
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: he can be Henry Rowan Gardner sitting in the center

782
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: field bleachers of Wrigley Field, Luke, and when his arm

783
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: recovers from that surgery, he can yeah, thank you, thank you,

784
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. He can throw strikes to the

785
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: play from the bleachers. Are we going to see a

786
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: turbo charged bionic legendary Polish power on Saturday? That will

787
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: leave you surprise?

788
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: I well, let me just say this, he's not using

789
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: it as an excuse, which I you know, mad respect

790
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 4: to Yanbohovich, I think we all really appreciate that. But

791
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: in his defense, BC, if he had to get double

792
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: fucking shoulder surgery, there is simply no question it affected

793
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 4: him badly. There is no question in my mind to

794
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: the point where it's like, now, how could it have

795
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: affect him if he was still able to fight? Well,

796
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: the question is what kind of range of motion did

797
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 4: he have to mechanically cock back to throw with full authority?

798
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 4: Was he having to pull his punches because he just

799
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: wasn't really able to trust the integrity of the shoulder

800
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: in order to I mean, dude, that could have major

801
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 4: implication and any kind of static holding, you need to

802
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: do all of it, all of it, dude. I remember

803
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: when after I had shoulder surgery, I ran. It was

804
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 4: three months later. I went for a run three months BC,

805
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: three months later, and just the bouncing of the shoulders

806
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: as I ran hurt, just that, just that, And I

807
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: was like to the point it hurt where I was like,

808
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: oh my fucking like, I can't mess up my surgery.

809
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 4: I don't want to go back under the knife.

810
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 6: Just that.

811
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: So this is this is what I mean, Like, there's

812
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: no question in my mind that messed him up. And

813
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: I think obviously in terms of like what happens when

814
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: they do these kinds of things is what they what

815
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 4: they do is they just sow the shoulder joint even

816
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: tighter so that it reduces your overall range of motion,

817
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 4: but it secures the joint from any kind of subsequent injury.

818
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: That's really what they do. But that can also have

819
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 4: an effect. BC. If my shoulder doesn't have the same

820
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: range of motion to operate, that tends to have cost.

821
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: So this is what I mean. It's probably much more

822
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: secure and that confers some benefits, but you're gonna be

823
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: limited with range of motion plus the time off plus

824
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: this is a surging opponent who likes to fight at range,

825
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: who is going to be faster BC. I think certainly

826
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: even you would agree with that. Carlos Carlos Olberg is

827
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 4: going to be.

828
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: The quicker of the two, more handsome of the two.

829
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean that's just about ninety nine percent

830
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: of guys at this point. But you understand my point.

831
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 4: I love Yoanblohovich. I think everybody likes Yanblokhovitch. I mean,

832
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: he's he's very hard to dislike, but he's got an

833
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: uphill climb here, and I don't think we should lose

834
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: sight of that.

835
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the flip side here in

836
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: Carlos Alberg, who, like Jan said, a victory like I

837
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: said earlier, will automatically get him a title show. I

838
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true in this division. I think

839
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: it might make more sense for Yan who has history

840
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: with the two guys that we think will be rematching,

841
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, recent history. Let's not forget that Belhovich gave

842
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: Pereira a very tough test in a split decision. But

843
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: for Carlos Olberg, this is his opportunity to show himself.

844
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: I also sat down with him on the BCX and

845
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: ultimately asked him what makes him different among the other

846
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: title contenders at two o five.

847
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: I I I bring to the table just a different look,

848
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's just a different look that

849
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: nobody's really seen before, and it opens doors for many

850
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: other opportunities for the company of the UFC. So the

851
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: prettiest face on the book, man, that's all that is that?

852
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 9: Well, that's the joke.

853
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: But but yeah, no, man, it's it all comes down

854
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: to just just having a different style. When I get

855
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: that title, you know, it just brings a different style.

856
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Well's being a pretty faces. We always joke Carlos on

857
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: Morning Combat that you probably have the best d MS

858
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: after a win in terms of people wanting a piece

859
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: of you reaching out. Is modeling still in your your

860
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: portfolio these days?

861
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna count it out. I mean, I do.

862
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 7: I do.

863
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: There are jobs that come my way, but I'm kind

864
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: of putting that aside until i get what I want,

865
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: uh from this from the UFC and then and then

866
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: I looked at to get in that eventually later on

867
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: in the future and hope that you know, I don't

868
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: break my nose and in too many ways.

869
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 6: But but I don't know.

870
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: I could be a hand model or something, but you know,

871
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: who knows.

872
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 6: But yeah, later on the future, we'll look at it.

873
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Looky. I would later ask him whether he gets job

874
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: offers in his DMS. He said, only hand jobs, So

875
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: that does align with the hand modeling right there. All

876
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: jokes aside, of course, he's he's got power, he's quick,

877
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: he's thirty four, but we consider him a young, youthful

878
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: obviously inexperience compared to Yan. But he's the betting favorite

879
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: coming in. If he gets this done, how does he

880
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: do it?

881
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 4: You're right, it is three rounds, it's not five. I

882
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 4: think he can outpoint him now. Yan. One of the

883
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: things that he's been really great at is very good

884
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: about checking kicks. And remember he shut down, is he

885
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: you know at two oh five? Like that is a

886
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: very very impressive thing. And one of the ways he

887
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: was able to do that was by shutting down the

888
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 4: leg kicks, forcing him into boxing range, and he had

889
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: much better boxing. Like is that something he can do

890
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: against Carlos Alberg at this stage of his game. That's

891
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: where I have a little bit of question. I think

892
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 4: the speed is ultimately going to be a big problem

893
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: for him. Now that being said, the question is what

894
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: does Yanblohovitch do? Does he lead or does he follow?

895
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: And I have a feeling he's going to lead and

896
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: he's going to try and pressure Alberg because the more

897
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: that Olberg is on the move, the less he can

898
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 4: plant and throw, particularly from the kicking department, and so

899
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: like what does that do? But I just feel like,

900
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: not that he'll have hesitancy to throw. I don't think

901
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: that's right. I suspect he's totally committed to get the

902
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: job done. But I have a feeling that ultimately some

903
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: of the rust is going to play a role here.

904
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: Even though he's a very experienced fighter. As I mentioned,

905
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 4: the speed, I think he's going to play a role.

906
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: The hand speed, the explosive ability, and I just feel

907
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: like Carlos Alberg he might have to scrape by. Like

908
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: when I when I say I agree with the odds

909
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 4: makers about who ultimately will get their hand raised, I do.

910
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: I actually think it will be pretty close, though, I mean,

911
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 4: you could you know, you know what I mean like that,

912
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna run away with it. I

913
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: just feel like, can he take two rounds from a

914
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: guy he's quicker than rangier than more explosive than who's

915
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: been off for two years with double shoulder surgery, who's

916
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 4: forty two years old. He should be able to do that.

917
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: Even though Blahovich is very, very tricky and certainly has

918
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 4: stout defense and hard to hurt.

919
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Have we seen his chin truly chest chested? Excuse me

920
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: for that jumble. I'm talking about Carlos Oldberg who did

921
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: go through smoked. So you think he can handle the

922
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: legendary Polish power outside of getting coldcott?

923
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: No, I think? If I mean, I think if Blahovich

924
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: lands on him clean, he's.

925
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Kind Oh you're referencing his debut loss with the UFC,

926
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: yeh yeah, yeah, But.

927
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, you know, dude, if I mean, if

928
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: we're at a point in this fight where Bhovich is

929
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: landing on him clean I mean, yeah, Carlos Olberg is

930
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: in a world of shit at that point. I don't

931
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 4: misunderstand me, but it's just a question of like, are

932
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 4: we going to get to that point or are we

933
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 4: going to get to that point a little too little

934
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: too late, you know what I mean, Like, oh, he

935
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: figures it out by the third round or something. I

936
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: think that's kind of where my head is at a

937
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: little bit on that.

938
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: If we're looking at a final four bracket, speaking of

939
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: March Madness right now at two o five, with Perreira

940
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: on Kalai of rematching on one side and this fight

941
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: on the other. It's like you could kind of argue

942
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: though that it'd be a lot better for the UFC

943
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: if Poeton won that rematch, Carlos Oldberg won this one,

944
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: so we get a fresh matchup. Because do you think

945
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: the UFC would even attempt to roll out a Mago

946
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: med En Kalai of Yanblhovitch rematch for the championship?

947
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: Not if they don't have to, Yeah, not if they

948
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: don't have to. If they don't have to, I mean,

949
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: look what they're doing. They're putting an old guy against

950
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: a again. You know, he's thirty four, but an old

951
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: guy versus a relatively speaking young guy that kind of

952
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: tells you where their head is at a little bit

953
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: on this one. But you know, old guys, especially especially

954
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: with legendary Polish power, they die hard. I mean we

955
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: all know that they die hard.

956
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: You're damn right they do. Luke, Let's look at the

957
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: rest of this card briefly. Here a welterweight matchup that

958
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: does have our attention is finally a returning gooner Nelson,

959
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: no longer training in Iceland with Connor McGregor. By the way,

960
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: he's a minus one eighteen favorite against the Sorry, yeah,

961
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: he is a favorite, but it's a virtual pick them

962
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: fight against Kevin Holland. It surprised me there. He's minus

963
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: one oh two is Holland. So we're looking at basically

964
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: a pick em in this three round walterweight Till is

965
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: that more about the ability of that gunner Nelson shown

966
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: over the years or more about the inconsistency of Kevin

967
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 1: Holland in your eyes?

968
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 4: I think it's more about Holland's inconsistency. I mean, this

969
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: is better for Holland, right, he thought deleedese And had

970
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: the rib injury than he fought RDR and he got smoked,

971
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 4: and these were fights he should have never taken. He's

972
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 4: back at one seventy. I think at one seventy he

973
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: has a completely different game, a completely different level of physicality,

974
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 4: and you know, I think his back is up against

975
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: the wall here BC. I mean, you know, it's like

976
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: Donald Serni went on losing streaks, but they were closer

977
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: to the end of his career, and even like he

978
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 4: had one losing streak where I think he lost like

979
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 4: three or four in a row, and then he rattled

980
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: off like three wins in a row. You know, I mean,

981
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: he got right back to it. You know, like Kevin

982
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: Holland needs to kind of try to do something closer

983
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: to that. And you're getting an opponent who hasn't competed

984
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 4: in fucking forever. Granted he's dangerous, but you know, quite

985
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: some time it's been Yeah, like I Kevin Holland. Kevin

986
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 4: Holland is talented, He is very, very talented, but he

987
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 4: fights suboptimally, either down to his opponent or in the

988
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 4: wrong weight class all the time. And it's like get

989
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: in the right weight class and put in maximum effort

990
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: into these fights, Like you know, according to your best

991
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 4: skill set and see what happens. And I think when

992
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: he does that, you know he does really well. Dude.

993
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: This is a guy who knocked out fucking Joaquin Buckley.

994
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 4: People forget that, dude, Kevin Holland fucking knocked out Joaquin Buckley.

995
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: Like he's a good fighter. But if you're looking at

996
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: these odds, it's because I think the odds makers are like, oh, yeah, he's.

997
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: A k off his back that time against what jockeray.

998
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's done some things.

999
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, dude, Kevin Holland is a nasty dude when

1000
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 4: he wants to be. But I'd be very curious from

1001
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: a betting perspective where bong Islan Luke is on this one,

1002
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 4: because you know it, it's hard to have confidence in

1003
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 4: Kevin Holland and at the same time, Gunnar and Nelson.

1004
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember when he made a name for

1005
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: himself beating Jeff Monson at ADCC, But he's been off forever.

1006
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: So where are you at on this one? Long hoyo.

1007
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: Earlier the odds have moved a lot.

1008
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 5: It is a pick him now, But earlier in the week,

1009
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 5: Kevin Holland was actually a pretty fat dog. I got

1010
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 5: him at plus one twenty five. You mentioned he's got

1011
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 5: the win over Waquem Buckley that was at eighty five.

1012
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 5: But Joaquin Buckley's are ranked welterweight right now. There is

1013
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: a really good win. He is four and three at welterweight.

1014
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: Those three losses all came to top fifteen welterweights.

1015
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 6: So I feel like you're getting Gunner here hasn't fought

1016
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 6: in two years. Excuse me?

1017
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 5: And how about this Gunner Nelson has fought five times

1018
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: in Kevin Holland's entire twenty five fight UFC career.

1019
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 6: No way, yep.

1020
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 5: So Kevin Holland been way more active, literally fought five

1021
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 5: times the amount that Gunner has in the last however

1022
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 5: many years. That is h Yeah, I'm ridding with Kevin

1023
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 5: Holland here. He is inconsistent. You gotta take the value there.

1024
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, Again, it's like the same thing with the

1025
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: same thing with Yan Blohovitch. Like you know, Yan Blohovich

1026
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: is high end, is higher than anything Oldberg has shown.

1027
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 4: But two years off is or almost is a long time, dude.

1028
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 4: It's a long time.

1029
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: So nelsince thirty six, he's off almost two years to

1030
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the day. He fought March eighteenth of twenty twenty three

1031
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: against Brian Barberina. He submitted him. He fought a year earlier,

1032
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: taking a decision from Takashi Sato. He had a three

1033
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: year break before that. It had a loss in twenty

1034
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: nineteen to both Gilbert Burns and Leon Edwards, and then

1035
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: he was off for almost a full year before that.

1036
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: What is going on here, Luke?

1037
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: These dudes are you know? I mean, partly it's partly.

1038
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's like with Ryan Hall. It's for example,

1039
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: like Ryan Why's Ryan Hall been so inconsistent? Well, there's

1040
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: a lot of matchups he was offered that I know

1041
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: he didn't particularly want, and then he had a bunch

1042
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: of injuries and he wanted to get right with that.

1043
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: And then a lot of these guys, I'm not sure

1044
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 4: it's what except this effects Gunner in Iceland, but you know,

1045
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 4: in many other cases, these guys were on gyms. You

1046
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 4: have to come it like life just kind of finds

1047
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: a way of getting in the way. Yeah, but you

1048
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: know they're not done. They are competitors. They want to

1049
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: get out there and win. And Gunnar Nelson's ground game,

1050
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't need to tell anybody about this.

1051
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: It's phenomenal. It's just you know, gole Lee dude. Two

1052
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 4: years off is a tough, tough time to come back to.

1053
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: Even and inconsistent, yet quite talented Kevin Holland Luke.

1054
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: Molly Meatball has lost three of her last four. She is,

1055
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: of course a big time local favorite. Here at Women's Straway,

1056
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: she welcomes Alexia ty Nara, who I know nothing about.

1057
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Does this fight make you move.

1058
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: It All Contender series winner Tainara? I didn't see anything

1059
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: super impressive, necessarily jungle fight veteran. I think it's probably

1060
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: something of a get right fight for Molly, but we shall.

1061
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: See f the tories. By the way, as she would say, Luke,

1062
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: what else do you like on this card?

1063
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: Man? There's a bunch of stuff I like on this card,

1064
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 4: if I do say so myself. Okay, I'm sure I'm

1065
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: mispronouncing his name because I'm terrible about it. But Jordan

1066
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: Vussnic against Chris Duncan, Dude, Jusnich has had one on

1067
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: one with Paul Hughes, the second of which was an

1068
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 4: absolute amazing fight, and I know he had his UFC debut.

1069
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: Jordan did on short notice, and you know it didn't

1070
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 4: look necessarily like that awesome, but it was like crazy

1071
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: short notice in order to get there. This guy has

1072
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: been doing great things in the lightweight division, over in

1073
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: Cage Warriors and in Europe. I love this fight. I

1074
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: think it's a great one. Nathaniel Wood, who has been

1075
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: somewhat inconsistent but still quite good against Morgan Sharier. I'm

1076
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 4: sure I'm saying that last name not quite right. He's

1077
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: twenty and ten, but still seems to me like one

1078
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 4: of the brighter French talents that has emerged on the

1079
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 4: UFC scene. Jack Herbert's always kind of fun against Chris

1080
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: Padilla that you can take that. Mick Parkin at heavyweight

1081
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: ten and zero out of England. You know, I don't

1082
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 4: really believe a lot in heavyweight prospects, and I don't

1083
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 4: know if he's gonna win this one against Marching Tai Bora,

1084
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: but Mick Parkin has looked pretty good to me of late. Actually,

1085
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: I love his spark. He's got some decent boxing. This

1086
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 4: is an interesting contest, and dude, if we can get

1087
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: a guy at heavyweight who can do exciting things and

1088
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 4: move through the tendership, que, I'm all in favor of that.

1089
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: And then last but not at least for me, Guram

1090
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 4: kute Talazzi, who I really thought was gonna be one

1091
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: of these guys at lightweight who was gonna be, you know,

1092
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: the new class to replace the old one. It didn't

1093
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 4: quite happen that way, but he's still very, very talented

1094
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: taking on I don't know how to say this guy's

1095
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 4: first name, but Fernandez out of Brazil, who's you know,

1096
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: a decent to good fighter. But Kutezaladze I've had a

1097
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: high opinion of in terms of like what I think

1098
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: his game could be. So you know, there's other ones

1099
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: you can pick up and down here, but just those

1100
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: alone are pretty good for me. Yeah.

1101
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: Indeed, And by the way, Mick parkin last year, I

1102
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: had a first round knockout finished there in his last fight.

1103
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: Who was that again? So I'm sorry, I just just

1104
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: dropped off the side of my brain and didn't see

1105
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: it there. Also before that he beat Muhammad Usman by

1106
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: decision Lucas Presky. So this is, you know, this is

1107
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: him trying to step up to that next level, to

1108
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: that Mendoza line that people like Tobura and Spevak represent

1109
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: Long Island. Luke, you had a hot on for this undercard.

1110
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Can we get a bet to look for a strawweight

1111
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: to watch.

1112
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: What he got for me?

1113
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 11: Uh?

1114
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 5: Not a strowway to watch you bet to look for

1115
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 5: you guys didn't ask my opinion when we were going

1116
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 5: over it.

1117
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm blohovich man.

1118
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 5: I got him at plus two twenties plus two forty

1119
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 5: five right now. He's only lost to champions in the

1120
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 5: last six years. Olberg hasn't even fought anyone in the

1121
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 5: top eight. Uh, blovitch last seven fights been against the

1122
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 5: top eight.

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00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 6: So you know this is a big step.

1124
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: Taking the Polish power too.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

1126
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 5: Let's I do want to give a shout out to

1127
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 5: Nathan Fletcher versus Callan Loughren. That is the battle of

1128
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 5: the Liverpool Gym's next Gen going against Team Koban Kyle bon.

1129
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 6: I don't know where Darren Till.

1130
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 4: Trains either way, isn't Colin. Isn't he Irish?

1131
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 6: He's Irish, but he trains okay? Cool?

1132
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a pick them too that fight. Looking

1133
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 5: forward to it. You mentioned Ji Herbert versus Taco Padilla.

1134
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 5: That was Ji was a big favorite in that now

1135
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 5: it's a pick them. So I'm pretty excited to see

1136
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 5: that Padilla did cash as like a plus two to

1137
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 5: twenty dog last time.

1138
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 6: He fought a lot of fights to look forward to here, man.

1139
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of bong hits to take on the

1140
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: main card minute Live show on Saturday, so check that

1141
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: out in the afternoon. Connor McGregor is also running for president, Luke,

1142
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: I'll throw that in as a footnote there in.

1143
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: Irish Lucky for the Irish.

1144
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to topic number two, and it

1145
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: all stems from an Ariel Hawane report about a week

1146
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: and a half ago, but it really became a topic

1147
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: this week, the idea that John Jones, who we all

1148
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: hope waiting, will sign a heavyweight unification against Tom Asperinot

1149
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: at some point this year. The report from Helwane was

1150
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: twofold one that Jones is demanding a six month training

1151
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: camp to prepare for aspinall, and two that he's also

1152
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: demanding that Deontay Wilder level money that we used to

1153
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: talk about that around thirty million according to Helwani. Luke,

1154
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: at this moment, how confident are you that we see

1155
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: this fight at all? Because This could just be public negotiation, right,

1156
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: this could just be there.

1157
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: Video about this on my YouTube channel. And then I

1158
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 4: had a discussion about it on the live chat yesterday

1159
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 4: as well, and there was a viewer who brought up

1160
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: a great point into something that I really I thought,

1161
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 4: really kind of crystallized it for me. We are now,

1162
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: I think, just three or four days away, maybe maybe less.

1163
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 4: We're basically on the precipice of Tom aspinall being five

1164
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: hundred days as interim champion, and we have a graphic

1165
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 4: for that, Luke, let's see the graphic because this was

1166
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 4: this was several days ago. I'm not sure when this

1167
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: was put up, so you know. And then the notion

1168
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 4: is on on April twenty ninth, he'll have five hundred

1169
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: and thirty five, which will make him either tied for

1170
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 4: first and then eventually Overta's He's gonna overtake Hennon Moraw

1171
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 4: essentially as the longest reigning interim champion. And the point

1172
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 4: that the viewer brought up to me quite correct is that, like, dude,

1173
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: if you're John Jones, you have had to have known

1174
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 4: for quite some time that you had a showdown with

1175
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: this guy. If you had to have known. There's like,

1176
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 4: there's no mystery about it. It wasn't like he was

1177
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: like the unofficial number one contender, Right, he's been the

1178
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: guy with the belt and now to a point where

1179
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: it will be the record in the history of the

1180
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: organization in terms of how long he'll have it. Like

1181
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: there's no way, there's no plausible deniability that there was

1182
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 4: anything else. Yeah, I know he tried to Shoohorn in

1183
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 4: the poetson fight and whatnot, but like you had to

1184
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 4: have known the claim that you now need an additional

1185
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 4: six months. No, my fault was, Okay, if he's asking

1186
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: for more money and it's public negotiation, like what's the

1187
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: line between negotiation and then ducking. Sometimes it can be

1188
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: very thin. It can be very very thin between them,

1189
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: and we understand that. Or it could also be the

1190
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 4: case that he's asking for six months, not that he

1191
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 4: needs an actual six months, but that like he's got

1192
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: like family stuff or whatever.

1193
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: And then people think cycling, Luke cycling, and I don't

1194
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: mean to de France.

1195
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I mean, listen, there's any number of I

1196
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 4: mean any yeah, well, well you do mean toward France

1197
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: just a lands off. Yeah, but like there's all of

1198
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: the there's all of these theories, and like all of them,

1199
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 4: we know. I'm just gonna say this, dude, I I

1200
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 4: am trying to not be negative about this, and you're

1201
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: asking me, like what my level of you know, what

1202
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: likelihood is there. I'm still gonna remain fifty to fifty

1203
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: on this one, perhaps even irrationally. It's the most important

1204
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: fight I think the UFC can make this year. It's

1205
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: one of the most important fights UFC can make for

1206
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: its entire heavyweight history. I absolutely believe that, and it's

1207
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: one of the you know, the most lucrative fights of

1208
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 4: any weight class that they could make. So for these reasons,

1209
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: there's a lot of there's a lot of you know,

1210
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 4: belief and why it should take place. At the same time,

1211
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: it's like John says he doesn't want to fight him

1212
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: a long time ago, tries to shoehorn in the Poeton fight.

1213
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: Is asking for six months for reasons we can't even

1214
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: fucking fathom what they would even be at this point,

1215
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: and he's asking for money. Not that I think that

1216
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: that money is unreasonable, but you know, part of the

1217
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: reason why pay per view buys are down is because

1218
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: the UFC has had stars that they could have accessed

1219
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: and used, and those stars chose to sit on the

1220
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 4: sidelines because they weren't getting enough money, or at least

1221
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: they didn't feel like they were being adequately compensated. Like

1222
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 4: we're already in this position because when the UFC has

1223
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: to choose between their business model and then breaking out

1224
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: the piggybank a little bit to break that model to

1225
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: make something happen, they just don't. They don't. There's no

1226
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 4: evidence that they do that. And so hope springs eternal.

1227
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: I suppose b see, I'm really not going to sit

1228
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 4: here to Clara won't happen because maybe in the end,

1229
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 4: you know, John just budgets and then we all this

1230
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 4: goes away and then we don't really have to worry

1231
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: about it. But like, while I recognize is that, as

1232
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: aforementioned that there the line between ducking and negotiating can

1233
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 4: be quite thin. Is there any evidence is what I

1234
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: would ask, Is there any evidence that you can look

1235
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: at that John wants this fight, He might take this

1236
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 4: fight in the end, or he might be compensated to

1237
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 4: such a degree BC that he relents to his objections.

1238
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: But all of the available evidence to me suggests he

1239
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 4: just doesn't fucking want it, and I think you have

1240
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: to come to terms with that.

1241
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little you know, ironic or coincidental

1242
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: because I'm also from Connecticut. But all I have right

1243
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: now is apathy for this situation. I just kind of

1244
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: like when we were doing the Connor Chandler bit and

1245
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: we're just sort of like, we get to a pointhere,

1246
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: like I don't care anymore. Make a decision, shit or

1247
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: get off the pod. I mean, when I heard this report,

1248
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: I tweeted and got a lot of pushback, by the way,

1249
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: but tweeted like six months, You've had six years to

1250
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: prepare for this fight. Or whoever was in this spot

1251
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: across from you.

1252
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: Wait a second, let me back up. What were the objections.

1253
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: The objections were that this is obviously public negotiation and

1254
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: that if anyone deserves this money, it is John. Yeah.

1255
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: I believe with the I believe in the latter, but

1256
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: it was hard for me not to go. You took

1257
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: three years off to rebuild your body, hired Richard Schaeffer

1258
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: and try to get this money. You couldn't. It allowed

1259
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: you to duck in Ganu. Then the UFC conspires with

1260
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: you to just drag this out to unthinkable levels after

1261
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: his injury postgnfight, allowing Stipe's old ass to wait another year,

1262
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: and now you're just stunting on Aspinall's career. You know

1263
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: who else didn't like this news? A former John Jones opponent,

1264
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: Chill Sunn and the bad guy. Let's listen to four

1265
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: and a.

1266
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 12: Half months since that fight. Did he not train train

1267
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 12: with aspitall in mind? Did he not full well know

1268
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 12: the undefeated champion or rather underspeed a ship was gonna

1269
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 12: take on the interim champion? What do you mean he

1270
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 12: needs six months? Six months from win, six months starting win?

1271
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 11: There?

1272
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: Do I guess you mean from right now?

1273
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: Don't you Anything that I.

1274
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 12: Am saying aside from six months from now is silly

1275
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 12: as a matter of fact, isn't it.

1276
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have even brought it up unless.

1277
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 12: You met from now, So of course it's from now

1278
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 12: that's very interesting to me.

1279
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: So six months, Luke would put us in September. Obviously,

1280
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: there's gonna be that November in New York City, MSG.

1281
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: That could be a perfect landing spot. I get the

1282
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: problem I have with leaning on the money side of

1283
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: it for John is well, Hey, the time, it's taking,

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Speaker 1: it's embarrassing, it's allowing him to say all these comments

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Speaker 1: that make you believe he's not the guy we thought

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01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: he was and he doesn't want this fight at all.

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Speaker 1: But beyond that, it's like, who are you at the

1288
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, Like, if you were the person

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Speaker 1: that says fighting aspenall means nothing to me, then you

1290
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: should have left the title in the ring when you

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01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: beat Stepe and walked off. Okay, And over the years,

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01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: we would stop talking about the aspinall part of this,

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01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: and we would probably only be talking about John's greatness.

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01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: But he's also dragged this out, so he's also at fault.

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Speaker 1: I kind of just wanted to go away. Luckily aspinall

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Speaker 1: is keeping of sound mind. Here's a little snippet of

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Speaker 1: his talk on one on one MMA.

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Speaker 13: There's no way to go for Johnny. He either has

1299
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 13: to fight me or retire now. And if he does retire,

1300
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 13: everyone knows that he will have been avoiding me, So

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Speaker 13: that literally isn't under the fight for john at the moment.

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Speaker 4: So hey, it works.

1303
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: Up pretty It is an indictment on the UFC too,

1304
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: like get your shit together, you know, strip him if

1305
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't want it strip.

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01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 4: Him or or I mean, listen, I don't think John

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01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 4: is like, you know, an awesome person, but like pay him,

1308
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 4: fucking pay him, like just pay him. Oh, we don't

1309
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 4: want to break our model. We want to keep athlete

1310
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: costs at twenty percent below people. I mean, if anybody

1311
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: is sick of the fight or pay conversation, believe me,

1312
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 4: it is me. But like guys, maybe he is negotiating

1313
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 4: for more money and and in the end if he

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Speaker 4: gets all, you know, thirty million, parent is what he's

1315
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Speaker 4: asking for. If he ends up getting it, god bless him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think thirty million is you know, it even

1317
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 4: ends up being twenty twenty five that that to me

1318
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Speaker 4: is like a great payday. He's more than earned. He's

1319
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Speaker 4: more than earned. I don't have any problem with it.

1320
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Speaker 4: But like, this is what I mean. John Nash on

1321
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 4: his podcast was talking about this. So the UFC from

1322
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: ESPN gets paid twenty million per pay per view, and

1323
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: then ESPN takes whatever they can get, you know, from

1324
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 4: the from the from the buys, right, so they just

1325
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 4: pay them twenty million and then they get to keep

1326
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 4: the receipts on the buys and the thing is is like,

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 4: you know, pay per view buys are just down tremendously

1328
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 4: and so like the average pay per view return is

1329
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 4: not that high. But apparently, according to him, the UFC's

1330
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 4: willing to look the other way when like, hey, Connor

1331
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 4: would come in and you know fight Serrone and do

1332
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: a million buys, they more than make up for it

1333
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 4: for you know, like half of the year with something

1334
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 4: just like that. So they'd be totally cool with it

1335
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 4: in those scenarios. And apparently John Jones versus Stevee sold

1336
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 4: pretty well. I don't know Jack what the number was,

1337
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: but I guess everyone was happy with it in the end.

1338
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 4: But this is the point I'm trying to make. It's like,

1339
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 4: if they would just come up off their pockets a

1340
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 4: little bit to pay these guys outside of what they're

1341
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 4: you know business model that lets them keep eighty cents

1342
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 4: of every dollar that is generated, you could have these

1343
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 4: fucking fights. You could have them. They're not like they're

1344
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 4: not like so difficult to make. They're just difficult to

1345
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 4: make if you're gonna pinch pennies. And again, they still

1346
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 4: might do it. I'm not saying that it won't happen,

1347
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 4: but like all of this difficulty, like if John is

1348
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: saying thirty million, fucking call his bluff. Call his bluff

1349
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 4: and see what happens.

1350
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: Or make a phone call Uncle Turkey line one. Seriously,

1351
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: you're in bed with the man, call him. He bailed

1352
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: you out on the sphere. Let's go. I don't care

1353
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: if the fight's in Saudi. Let's go. Let's make the fight.

1354
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: End of discussion, though, Luke, we gotta keep going here.

1355
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number three. The very controversial boxing

1356
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: superstar Ryan Garcia has cleared, of course his one years

1357
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: or will be clearing his one year suspension in April

1358
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: next month, and of course is prepping for his May

1359
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: second time Square return against Rolando Romero. But Garcia kind

1360
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: of came clean for the first time about that very

1361
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: tumultuous twenty twenty four when he sat down last week

1362
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: with Ach and Barack of the new podcast Ring Champs,

1363
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: which of course is on the All the Smoke Fight Network,

1364
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: and you can check out the full episode of this

1365
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: on the Ring Champs YouTube page. Garcia revealed really in

1366
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: depth detail about the drugs and alcohol that led to

1367
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the crazy, erratic behavior leading up to

1368
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: the Hainy victory, and of course after it, when he

1369
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: was stripped or when he was when the wind got

1370
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: taken away due to the positive test due to Ouster

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01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: and it became a no contest. Let's listening to Ryan

1372
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: talking about how much the drugs and alcohol did really

1373
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: put him on the verge of throwing it all the

1374
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: way last year.

1375
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 11: I'm surprised I'm here right now. Really, I was training

1376
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 11: it every day, every single day. I feel like the

1377
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 11: people are even the day of the fight.

1378
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 14: Day of the fight, I just got so involved in

1379
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 14: just trying to cope whatever was going on inside. And

1380
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 14: like I said, I've been struggling mentally for years and

1381
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 14: it just wouldn't.

1382
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 11: Stop for me.

1383
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 6: So what was the turning point?

1384
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 14: Turning point is to realize, like, damn, bro, I'm slucking

1385
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 14: my life up, you know, and getting arrested was a

1386
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 14: big part of it. Almost losing my kids was a

1387
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 14: huge part of it.

1388
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 11: Can you talk about what happened that day?

1389
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 14: I decided to take a bunch of shrooms and something

1390
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 14: I was doing already, but this time took too many.

1391
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 11: And I kind of.

1392
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 6: Just lost it.

1393
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 4: Bro.

1394
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 11: I can't really say anything else.

1395
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 15: I mean, they were that you trashed the room.

1396
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I ended up breaking everything

1397
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 14: in the room. I don't I really don't remember, bro,

1398
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 14: I was drunk and fucked up to.

1399
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 16: The But to his point, who were you with that day?

1400
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 11: The same people?

1401
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 17: And see, this is the thing though, I'm sure those

1402
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 17: people love you, but that doesn't mean that they know

1403
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 17: what's good for you in your career, in your life

1404
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 17: and your spirit, you know what I mean.

1405
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 4: That's all. I'm sure that people love you. I ain't

1406
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 4: trying to knock them.

1407
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 17: I'm just trying to say, do you think you should

1408
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 17: have been around that kind of people that's comfortable when

1409
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 17: you getting drunk?

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 11: Right? No?

1411
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 14: No, I respect that, and no, man, I feel I

1412
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 14: just didn't have those type of people.

1413
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: You can download the full episode on all pot wherever

1414
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: you find find podcasts, along of course the Ring Champs

1415
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: YouTube channel.

1416
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 4: Luke, I'm not looking those Stock and Barrock. I like

1417
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 4: those guys.

1418
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not looking for you to provide sympathy

1419
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: to a guy who just did so much bullshit last year.

1420
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: The conspiracies, the racism, the challenging, all these fighters talking

1421
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: about about their wives like it was NonStop. It was

1422
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: out of control. He did touch on two moments that

1423
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: played a big part, the cancer diagnosis for his mom

1424
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: in June and the divorce he had in January of

1425
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: last year that came just a few weeks after the

1426
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: birth of his son, Henry. So Luke, I want you

1427
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: to kind of just gauge what you're seeing here. We've

1428
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: also seen a more relaxed Ryan in the two press

1429
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: conferences for this Romero fight. Do you think he can

1430
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: put this behind him and instill access the highest points

1431
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: of his career if he is clean and sober and

1432
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: in the right state, with the right help around and

1433
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: moving forward.

1434
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 4: Well, you know, let he who has uh, I mean,

1435
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 4: I know the I've tortured this phrase, but it really

1436
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 4: is quite true that he who was without sinning cast

1437
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: the first stone. And more to the point, anybody who

1438
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 4: has been in the throes and the conroll of illicit substances,

1439
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 4: drugs or alcohol knows that not only do you end

1440
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 4: up hurting yourself a lot, but you hurt a lot

1441
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 4: of people around you. And it seems like that has

1442
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 4: dawned on him, at least in some of the early

1443
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: and very important stages. I mean, BC, you would agree

1444
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: he just looks a lot better here. He certainly sounds

1445
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 4: a lot better here. Everything he was so manic before

1446
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 4: right where he was just firing off words and sentences.

1447
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 4: Everything seems down to earth in a much better way.

1448
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 4: So let me just say I commend him on the progress.

1449
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 4: I commend him on the sobriety. I commend him on

1450
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 4: I think also BC, wasn't it part of this that

1451
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 4: he was potentially losing custody of his children?

1452
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, with the arrest, so he caused fifteen thousand dollars

1453
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: of damage at the Waldorf in Beneverly Hills. And by

1454
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: the way, that was fueled at that moment by his

1455
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: mom's cancer diagnosis, and it led to when he was arrested.

1456
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: I think there was an incident with his ex wife

1457
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: as well that led to him be on the verge

1458
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: of losing visitation with this three kids. So if that

1459
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: was a turning point that sobered him up. You know,

1460
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: for the human side of it, you certainly hope he

1461
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: can he can stay. But for the boxing side, we

1462
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: never thought he can be as dangerous, nasty and everything

1463
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: as he was in that HAINI fight. I know that

1464
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: there were hold on.

1465
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: I mean, remember, granted, you know, we've all had some

1466
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 4: bad predictions. Me saying HAINI was gonna tune him up

1467
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 4: like a guitar is an all time bad one. But

1468
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 4: I will say in my defense, you know, not that

1469
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 4: there was any like it was a bad prediction.

1470
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: But the guy is admitting he was drinking like the

1471
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,799
Speaker 1: day of the.

1472
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 18: Fight under normal circumstances that derails ninety nine percent of

1473
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 18: pro boxers. So it wasn't like we were crazy for

1474
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 18: being like this might not be bad. I just want

1475
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 18: to say one more thing about the personal side. You know, again,

1476
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 18: anybody who's been in.

1477
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 4: The throws, and I've been in the throws, not so

1478
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 4: much of drugs, but certainly you know alcoholism, and it's terrible.

1479
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 4: It does terrible things to you. It does terrible things

1480
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 4: your relationships. It is terrible things to your professional prospects.

1481
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 4: It's terrible. It takes a long time to get right.

1482
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 4: I will say BC I had to block him on

1483
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 4: social media because there was a point in his life

1484
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: where he was just spewing the most hateful shit about

1485
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 4: everybody and anybody. You mentioned, people's wives, people's religions, people's

1486
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 4: skin colors, people's I mean, sexual orientation, anything, anything, anything

1487
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 4: he could find to just fucking blast away at I

1488
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 4: couldn't take it anymore. I think he's actually got a

1489
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 4: long road to recovery, to really get to a point

1490
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: where he can fully understand, like some of the damage

1491
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 4: that he caused to himself and like the people his

1492
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 4: loved ones. But I will say he looks a lot better,

1493
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 4: he sounds way better, and I do believe in second chances.

1494
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 4: I do believe in redemption. He seems like he's on

1495
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 4: a good pack, but I still think he's got a

1496
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 4: long way to go. Now you're asking about the boxing

1497
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 4: side of things, BC, this is the crazy part. If

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Speaker 4: that guy was drinking and in the clubs before fighting

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 4: Devin Haney and then even drinking the day of the fight,

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Speaker 4: and does that now Granted there was the way issue

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: and there was the Osteen stuff, it's a much more

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 4: complicated hole, but it's quite obvious. He is very skilled

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Speaker 4: and it's very talented. I think if he's really getting right,

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Speaker 4: he can rescue himself BC. And you can't make up

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Speaker 4: for lost time, but he's still got a lot of

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 4: good time in front of him to make effective great

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Speaker 4: use of a professional boxing career.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I think he's still untapped at his full potential.

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Speaker 1: We saw flashes early on, you know. I think even

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Speaker 1: when you look back at the Tank fight, you have

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: to look at that through the lens of the rehydration clause.

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Speaker 1: And he did make big mistakes in that Tank fight,

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Speaker 1: and once Tank crumbled him with the knockdown, he wasn't

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01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: the same. He was reckless at times. But I think

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Speaker 1: if they eventually do a rematch, that could look differently.

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Speaker 1: He's got a big plan ahead of him if he

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Speaker 1: beats Romero. He's already signed the deal to fight Haini.

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Speaker 1: He said the third fight after that would be either

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Speaker 1: Teo Femo or Boots Senis. So he's the one who's

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Speaker 1: coming out and saying I want to fight. I want

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Speaker 1: to be the first one to fight everyone of the

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Speaker 1: four Kings Princes, whatever you want to talk about him,

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Speaker 1: he wants the smoke and all. So he's getting a

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Speaker 1: really big bag for this Romero fight. Let's hear him

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Speaker 1: talk about that.

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Speaker 16: Is this fight going to be the most money you've

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Speaker 16: ever made? What is the money looking like? Maya business.

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Speaker 16: I'm always gonna bring up money. I'm just watching what

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Speaker 16: you're saying I know.

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Speaker 11: What under a higher or lower, I'll do higher.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 16: So let's say for this particular fight against Rowley, would

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Speaker 16: you've been making more than ten million? More than fifteen.

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Speaker 4: M damn twenty.

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Speaker 14: He understands this generation on how to promote fights.

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Speaker 11: You know, he should just be seeing what he's he's

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Speaker 11: bringing to the table.

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Speaker 14: He's bringing, you know, mister beestonto play, he's bringing KSI,

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Speaker 14: all these guys that are huge names and that are

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Speaker 14: gonna you know, amplify the promotion. He know's he's gonna

1541
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Speaker 14: move the new they're gonna see. There is a method

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Speaker 14: to what he's doing. And I think he's he's the

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Speaker 14: new guy on the block, but I think he's gonna

1544
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Speaker 14: take over. And if you're hater on it, it's weird

1545
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Speaker 14: because he's bringing all the best fights possible. He's making

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Speaker 14: sure that we fight me and Devin. There's no if

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Speaker 14: you have an excuses, it's not about money.

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Speaker 4: Money, it's not about money.

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Speaker 11: And he's exposing people because it ain't about money.

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Speaker 16: When it comes to usually outprice themselves out.

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Speaker 11: Now they deny a fight. It ain't about money for sure.

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Speaker 16: For this particular fight against Roby, would you be making

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Speaker 16: more than twenty around it, around that shit.

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Speaker 1: I got it too bad for John Jones when he

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Speaker 1: hears things like that, Luke, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up one thing real quick to you.

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Speaker 1: I have clowned Ryan's reaction on this podcast, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the one with Doc and Brock on Ring Champs, because

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Speaker 1: he's still going on the heavy conspiracy theory that this

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Speaker 1: test was a joint plant the Austerean test that he

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Speaker 1: failed by both the Hany family and the New York

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Speaker 1: State Athletic Commission, and he's citing the fact that he

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Speaker 1: tested clean before and after on all the other tests.

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Speaker 1: He's also citing the fact that Haney's brother put up

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Speaker 1: on social media, like I think before the fight predicting

1566
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Speaker 1: that Ryan was gonna pop. There's other and I thought

1567
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Speaker 1: that was sort of more him acting crazy. A lot

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Speaker 1: of fans came back at me on my personal channel

1569
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Speaker 1: and we're like, read the details on that it there

1570
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Speaker 1: does seem to be sketchy circumstances surrounding it. I don't know, Luke,

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Speaker 1: it sounds far fetched to me, but sketchy circumstances like

1572
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: what Like he believes the Hany family had knowledge ahead

1573
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: of time that this was going to happen, and it

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Speaker 1: was a plant and all that. I mean, that could

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Speaker 1: be a law suit in return coming up. Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: he's already getting suit.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess that the guy who wasn't really in

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Speaker 4: control with substance abuse problems probably was not artificially poisoned.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: There's this weird cult of fans that he has that

1582
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 4: are desperate to like, like, if he does something great

1583
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Speaker 4: that they are desperate to credit him for it, and

1584
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 4: when he does something bad, they they're they they have

1585
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Speaker 4: any number of excuses he was poisoned, or he was

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Speaker 4: treated poorly, or this is unfair, or even if he

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Speaker 4: did it to himself, there's some other kind of extenuating circumstance.

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Speaker 4: He's got this cult of enablers around him, as fans

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Speaker 4: and observers who simply are he had guys. Ryan Garcia

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Speaker 4: has agency. He has agency over his own decisions, he

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Speaker 4: has agency over his own life, and you can hold

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Speaker 4: difficult to understand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, twenty million is a lot of money, so

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Speaker 1: or is it about the future of take tko boxing?

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Speaker 1: friend Marcos Vegas from fight Hub. The contract stipulates the

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Speaker 1: purses will be increased based on the fighter's ability to

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Speaker 1: crack the top ten of the company and climb the rankings.

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Speaker 1: You can see there twenty thousand dollars for a ten

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Speaker 1: roundabout by an unranked fighter, escalating the higher you go

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Speaker 1: title three hundred and seventy five thousand one challenging for

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Speaker 1: a company championship, seven hundred and fifty thousand, when defending

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Speaker 1: a company championship. And there's a lot of other elements

1650
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: to this that we've seen within it. One is Luke

1651
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: that it seems if you sign with them, you're under

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01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: the books for three fights. No word yet if there's

1653
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Speaker 1: other sort of UFC style contract kickings that allow TKO

1654
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: to keep you longer. But I wanted to get your reaction,

1655
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: mostly because it seems so polarizing. A lot of boxing

1656
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: people read this boxing scene story and said, ah, ever work,

1657
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: See they're bringing UFC payouts just the same. A lot

1658
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: of people with experience in this area were like, hold on,

1659
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: this does bring a return to the middle class for

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Speaker 1: fighters that can't normally reach this level of payout. It

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01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 1: might cap you on the highest end. But what was

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Speaker 1: your takeaway on this.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit closer to the latter. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is it's very okay. So first of all, like

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Speaker 4: they're giving the game away here a little bit like

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Speaker 4: what do they plan to do? Well, you see what

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Speaker 4: they plan to do. They plan to offer pay that

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01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 4: allows the house of the promoter to make more on

1669
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 4: an event than the current structure allows. And if you

1670
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 4: read the court documents in the UFC Anti trust suit,

1671
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 4: there were you know, there were statements from Loudabella, there

1672
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 4: were receipts from Golden Boy Promotions. There were you know,

1673
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 4: testimonials from Bob Aram where they all kind of explain

1674
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 4: seventy percent or higher, including up to eighty percent going

1675
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 4: to the boxer is quite normal in that industry, and

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01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 4: they explain some of the reasons why they want to

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Speaker 4: invert this or to bare minimum kind of change it.

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01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 4: And you know, I don't think that's much of a surprise.

1679
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 4: I think that part is kind of obvious. So to

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Speaker 4: that extent, I don't have much to say. The question

1681
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Speaker 4: is like who ends up taking advantage of these Also,

1682
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,520
Speaker 4: by the way, for the Company Championship, the Company Championship

1683
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 4: kind of tells you that they're they're going to stay

1684
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 4: in compliance with the ALI Act because they're not trying

1685
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Speaker 4: to form like a real title. They're just trying to

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Speaker 4: They're going to have a ceremonial title and then they're

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Speaker 4: going to kind of treat it like a real title.

1688
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Speaker 4: But you're asking about the pay, who will apply to

1689
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 4: if you look at pay in boxing now, this is

1690
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 4: somewhat disputed depending on how you measure it, but there

1691
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Speaker 4: are ways to look at it based on boxing receipts.

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01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 4: Where the in the curve of like all the different

1693
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 4: pay slots and who makes what. The vast majority of

1694
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 4: the time, boxers make more than MMA, including at the

1695
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 4: low end and especially at the high end. People think

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Speaker 4: at the low end MMA fighters make more. That's really

1697
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 4: not the case. But to the point that you raised BC,

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01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 4: there kinda is a bit of a middle class there

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01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 4: where they can make more, and so if this is

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01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 4: geared towards that, there could be it could work out

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01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 4: in a quite a lucrative way. But what I would

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 4: say is, if they're bringing UFC pay and these are

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01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 4: three fight deals, ostensibly, my hunch is that they want

1704
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 4: to add UFC style contract provisions like if you get injured,

1705
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 4: and granted that's not as relevant in boxing, but it

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Speaker 4: does tend to happen. It extends your career from the

1707
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 4: day you sign versus the day of your first fight,

1708
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 4: that difference being an extension if you end up becoming

1709
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 4: a champion. Are there their championship clauses? Are what other

1710
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 4: things are they going to do to tack onto that

1711
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 4: that make it a longer deal, Because by the way,

1712
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 4: UFC deals, when they're offered, often are just three fight deals.

1713
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 4: I've seen UFC contracts, it's very very normal to not

1714
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 4: not all of them are that way, obviously, but as

1715
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 4: like a sort of like a standard thing, they do

1716
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 4: that too. So I can see the argument that this

1717
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 4: could service a particular kind of boxer. It's a bit

1718
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 4: of a middler that could have something of a bump

1719
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 4: and pay bcee. When the UFC got rid of individual

1720
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 4: sponsors and they picked up the Rebok deal, you know,

1721
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 4: it didn't affect every MMA, or I should say every

1722
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 4: UFC fighter the same. At the high end, it was

1723
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 4: really bad for those guys. At the very low end,

1724
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 4: it was really good for those guys because they weren't

1725
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: getting any sponsorship and such that they wore. It didn't

1726
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 4: have to chase these guys down and in the middle

1727
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 4: it kind of depended on your circumstances. Seems to me

1728
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 4: this will be something like that. I just want to

1729
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 4: add the real kicker. Here are any of the additional

1730
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 4: things that lengthen the terms of the deal. That's what

1731
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 4: we have to see, right, Yeah, I.

1732
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 1: Mean we still don't know the full package. In fact,

1733
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: it must be noted Turkey Alaschik, who is him and

1734
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: his country are of course funding the TKO league. He

1735
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: owns Ring magazine and on the Ring Twitter account he

1736
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: did refute this report. He also took it a little

1737
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: bit further here showing a picture of Gary Jonas, who

1738
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: is the owner of the Probox Promotion, which purchased Boxing

1739
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,799
Speaker 1: Scene from Paramount over the past two years, and Turkey

1740
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: says this article is not factually accurate. I think Gary

1741
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: Jonas should focus on his business in Florida because he

1742
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: doesn't want the FTC to call him again. I'm wondering

1743
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: what the structure of his business model with the rehab

1744
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: facilities in boxing are so end quote there, you've got

1745
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: a very aggressive use of the supposedly independent editorially ring

1746
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: magazine account. Now Jonas earlier that day did give an

1747
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: interview that was very negative and aggressive against Turkey in

1748
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: terms of what his intentions, whether he will succeed in this.

1749
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: But Luke, I know that TKO seems to be pushing

1750
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: back to how we reacted to their initial announcement. You

1751
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: saw Turkey come on Twitter and give that long Spaces

1752
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: thing where he kind of said, no, we're not looking

1753
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: to push everybody out, drive everybody out of business. I

1754
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: don't know what the thing anymore. I feel like every

1755
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: other day, I feel like they've got all the connections

1756
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: and money to take over. But there is a lot

1757
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: of old guard that are gonna dig their heels and

1758
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: probably try to prevent this from having.

1759
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 4: Do you see Samson Lukawitz talk about this with the

1760
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 4: biv with the bivol thing. Let's see, let's see, let's see.

1761
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 4: I mean, i'd say it's to you, You're you're raising

1762
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 4: all like literally all the right questions, but we're so

1763
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 4: far out. They came out guns blazing and the response

1764
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 4: was like eh, and now they're like no, no, no, no, no,

1765
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 4: like we're gonna do this and no, no, no, We're gonna

1766
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 4: be this what we're gonna do? You know what I

1767
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 4: mean that the softened the tone in a few different directions,

1768
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 4: and again to the point Danil White rays Turkey's got

1769
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 4: like what eighteen months left on some of these. It's

1770
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a while, It's gonna be aye, let's let's.

1771
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: Will be well, we'll continue to follow this development. Let's

1772
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: go to topic number five. There is a monster event

1773
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: this Sunday from the Saitama Super Arena in Japone. Yes,

1774
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: it is one Championship one seventy two and Luke to acts.

1775
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: This card this weekend is available on global pay per

1776
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: view on watch dot ONEFC dot com, not the normal

1777
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 1: prime video there. This is a supercard that's gonna mix

1778
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: of course the different combat styles that one likes to present.

1779
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: But in that main event, to Caro Sagawa, the former

1780
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: three division K one champion, will take on former One

1781
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: Championship flyweight Muytai champion or Rod Tang in a five

1782
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: round flyweight kickboxing match. Luke set us up here, there's

1783
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: a lot to love about this matchup before.

1784
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 4: We even get to We're gonna talk to Timothy Wheaton

1785
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 4: here in just a second from Low KICKMMA. But BC

1786
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 4: one thing I want to point out on this card,

1787
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 4: there are let's see, I believe there are. Let's see

1788
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 4: how many fights there are. Don't say anything yet. There

1789
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 4: are fourteen fights. Fourteen fights on this card, one to

1790
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 4: three of them are MMA, only three MMA fights. Now,

1791
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 4: I was talking about this with Long Island Luke before

1792
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 4: the show. I don't mind this at all. I don't

1793
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 4: mind this even a little bit. Like, of course, it's

1794
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 4: gonna be great to have more big leagues or bigger

1795
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 4: promotions doing MMA, and there is some of that. And

1796
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 4: by the way, if you're asking which ones they are,

1797
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 4: there's one on the premium car that's really not that interesting.

1798
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 4: But Shinya Aoki taken on Edward Foleyang. This is kind

1799
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 4: of like a fun fight. Foliyang was something of a

1800
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 4: Filipino pioneer. This will be a one to seventy fight.

1801
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 4: And then the one that's much more interesting is with

1802
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 4: the vacant Bansawey Championship between Adreano Moris, who had obviously

1803
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 4: those interesting fights with DJ former champion himself, taken on

1804
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 4: yu Yo Wakamatsu's That's actually a pretty fun contest there

1805
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 4: as well. Yeah rematch, yes exactly so, so there's some

1806
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 4: even the MMA they have on there is actually you know,

1807
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 4: reasonably respectable, especially for the title level. But really the

1808
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 4: star of the show obviously is all the kickboxing they

1809
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 4: get to Cairo versus ratting and the main Taiwan Chai

1810
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 4: taking on Masaki Norie I'm sure I'm saying his name wrong.

1811
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 4: And then superc is also on this car as well.

1812
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 4: Super Like obviously had an amazing fight with to Karou previously.

1813
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 4: So like there's a bunch of really interesting things happening

1814
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: on it. But it does appear to me two things

1815
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 4: worth observing. One, this is clearly an organization that is

1816
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 4: just moving into more of an muy Thai kickboxing direction,

1817
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 4: even if it's four ounce muy Thai. And second of all,

1818
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 4: this was brought up to me by by Timothy as well.

1819
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 4: Have you noticed for a pay per view event where

1820
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 4: they've got literally this to Cara ruversus Row tank fight

1821
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 4: has been years in the making, Chatri has been very quiet.

1822
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 4: Have you noticed that Chatri had done a little bit

1823
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 4: of media for it, but not much.

1824
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 1: In figuring out the next season of the One Championship Apprentice.

1825
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of producing that needs to be done

1826
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: for that.

1827
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, fair enough. But the reason that was given

1828
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 4: to me was previously Chatri had said, well, you know,

1829
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 4: taie fighters are just Thai kickboxers and multi fighters are

1830
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 4: better than Japanese kickboxers. And you know, this was at

1831
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,639
Speaker 4: a time when he was trying to sign Japanese talent

1832
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 4: and then like Curry favor with the Japanese mark. And

1833
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 4: my understanding was it wasn't like what Chatrie said was

1834
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 4: necessarily factually inaccurate, somewhat overstated but factually inaccurate, but just

1835
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 4: really tone death for a legion of fighters and a

1836
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 4: market that you need, frankly, especial if you're gonna go

1837
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 4: in a kickboxing direction where you know, Japanese kickboxing is

1838
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 4: obviously not what it once was, but still is an

1839
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 4: important market, you know. So what's interesting about that he's

1840
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 4: kind of taken a bit of a backseat and they're

1841
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 4: letting other factors and other kind of influences promote this fight.

1842
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 4: So really interesting what's happening with one? And as I

1843
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 4: said with to Alana Luke, I don't care what direction

1844
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 4: they go. If you put on banger fights and you've

1845
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 4: got something that you can do sustainably over time, go

1846
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 4: do that. You don't need to do MMA. Like again,

1847
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I don't want MMA. I'm just saying

1848
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 4: I want them to do something that will enable them

1849
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 4: to thrive. That's what I want them to do. And

1850
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 4: it seems like it seems like this is it now.

1851
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 4: To set this up, BEC, we did speak to Timothy

1852
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 4: Wheaton earlier this week to give you guys a preview

1853
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 4: because listen, as much as I love kickboxing and BC two,

1854
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 4: we don't know shit about it all, right, Can we

1855
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 4: just be honest about that. We know fuck all about kickboxing.

1856
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 4: It's not our wheelhouse at all. Feel like I know

1857
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 4: a fair bit about MMA. BC knows a fair bit

1858
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 4: about boxing, and then you know, kind of a little

1859
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 4: bit in between the two of us there, but we

1860
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 4: don't know much about kickboxing, so we said we got

1861
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 4: to call in reinforcements. Well, Timothy Wheaton, has you covered guys.

1862
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 4: To Caeru versus raw Tang is fucking guaranteed barn burning excitement.

1863
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 4: But what is the relevancy? How do they match up?

1864
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 4: Here's my conversation with Tim Wheaton. Tim, Let's get to it.

1865
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 4: Why is to carew versus raw Tang such a big

1866
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 4: fight in kickboxing?

1867
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 14: Man?

1868
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 15: I am so excited for this fight. We have been

1869
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 15: waiting years to get this match up. And the way

1870
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 15: that I compare it to MMA or boxing is that

1871
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 15: these are cold war rivals. They are the best from

1872
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 15: one organization versus the best from another organization, but they

1873
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 15: could never meet. Contra disputes, TV deals, all that sort

1874
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 15: of stuff going on. But finally, after years of waiting,

1875
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 15: we finally get the fight we want. We get the

1876
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 15: cold war arrivals, the best of mouy Thai and one

1877
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 15: championship facing the best of K one and kickboxing. I

1878
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 15: am so so excited for this matchup that these two

1879
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 15: will finally get in the ring, We had injuries, we

1880
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 15: had so many blocks coming in the way, but we

1881
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:25,560
Speaker 15: finally made it.

1882
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 4: Luke Thomas, We've made.

1883
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 15: It, Bro.

1884
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 4: Does it matter that there's no title on the line.

1885
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 15: No, not at all here. This is like the way

1886
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 15: that I compare it to MMA very accurately would be

1887
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 15: vonder Lay Silva and Chuck Liddell. Now when they met

1888
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 15: eventually there was no title on the line, but it

1889
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 15: didn't diminish how exciting and important that fight was in

1890
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 15: MMA history. This fight is in a very similar vein

1891
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 15: of there may not be a title on the line,

1892
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 15: but the title doesn't tell the full story. The records

1893
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 15: are the more important part. The names are the far

1894
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 15: more important part in this fight. And it's a five

1895
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 15: round super fight anyway, So I'm pumped for it.

1896
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 4: Does this fight being in Japan obviously that gives to

1897
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 4: Careu some kind of support. To what extent does that

1898
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 4: matter in terms of how it could influence the fight

1899
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 4: or the judges or anything else.

1900
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 15: I've wondered the same thing as well. I think everyone

1901
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 15: has that home crowd advantage that when you go to Brazil,

1902
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 15: they're always gonna, you know, select the Brazilians when you

1903
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 15: go to Japan, They're always going to select the Japanese people.

1904
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 15: I think him being surrounded by his home audience they're

1905
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 15: in Tokyo, I think that's really gonna benefit tech Careu's

1906
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 15: attitude when it comes to officiating and judging. I don't

1907
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 15: think it's going to make a massive difference there. But

1908
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 15: Takaru's very emotional fighter. He's a guy who listens to

1909
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 15: the audience. He when they're not cheering, he's slowing down.

1910
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 15: When they are cheering, he is speeding up. So he's

1911
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 15: a very emotional fighter, and I think for that, for

1912
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 15: that factor, being in Japan is going to be very

1913
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 15: important for mister Takaru.

1914
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 4: Takaru's style could be described as.

1915
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 15: What dude, this guy, Oh my god, he's one of

1916
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 15: those you think I don't even like combat sports, Go

1917
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 15: and watch tech Caru fight and you will immediately shade

1918
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 15: your mind. This guy is a forward pressure brawler. He

1919
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 15: is looking to take his opponent's head off with a

1920
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 15: flurry of strikes. It's honestly just his leg kicks and

1921
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 15: bodykicks are in the way of him throwing a tornado

1922
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 15: of punches and rod Tang is a fighter who's an

1923
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 15: expert at getting to where he wants to be. He

1924
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 15: wants to get to the inside and throw combination punches,

1925
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 15: and he will use head movement and Perry's to get

1926
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 15: to that position, whereas Techkaru loves to use his face

1927
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 15: to block punches and get in the positions that he

1928
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 15: wants to be. So he's willing to take a flurry

1929
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 15: of punches to land four or five punches of his own.

1930
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 15: And man, this is why. And you guys know rod

1931
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 15: Tang real well, you know this whirlwind of a puncher

1932
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 15: against another flurry fighter. Oh oh, sign me up. This

1933
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 15: is why we're here. This is why we do this sport.

1934
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 4: By the way, what kind of glove are they using?

1935
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 4: And depending on what your answer is, does that influence?

1936
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 4: Does that favor either fighter? Yeah?

1937
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 15: No, that's a really good question here. So coming into

1938
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 15: the fight, Tekkaru had said that I'm willing to fight

1939
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 15: rod Tang in muy Thai. I'm willing to fight tech

1940
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 15: Karu under any or sorry, I'm willing to fight rod

1941
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 15: Tang under any rules that I simply do not care.

1942
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 15: I want to fight rod Tang, and he's always made

1943
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 15: it clear that that's his intention. So if they wanted

1944
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 15: small gloves, they could have done small gloves if they

1945
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 15: wanted to fight under Muay Thai rules, they could have.

1946
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 15: For whatever reason, they chose to do it under K

1947
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 15: one Kickboxing standard rules. So we will be in the

1948
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 15: big gloves in this matchup. And honestly, I think that

1949
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 15: favors probably Rod Tang a little bit because he does

1950
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 15: cover up a lot more to defend himself against punches,

1951
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 15: whereas Tekkaru is a guy who will just put his

1952
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 15: hands down by his waist, wait for you to finish

1953
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 15: your little combination, and then throw back in return. So

1954
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 15: I actually think a lot of things in this matchup

1955
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 15: favor Rod Tang, to be honest with you.

1956
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 4: What's interesting is I heard Takaro say he like this

1957
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 4: could be his last fight. I know he's only thirty three.

1958
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 4: Does he have a lot of miles on him? How

1959
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 4: would you compare the wear and tear on him to

1960
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 4: the wear and tear on Rod Tang?

1961
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1962
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 15: Okay, So that's kind of the X factor for both

1963
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 15: men in this fight. Because if you remember a few

1964
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,440
Speaker 15: years ago, tech Carou had fought the Phenom Tension, Nasakawa

1965
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,759
Speaker 15: lost to him. He relinquished his three K one titles,

1966
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 15: and he said, all I want to do now is

1967
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 15: fight rod Tang and then I'm pretty much done. He

1968
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 15: went and won a title in Paris, then he took

1969
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 15: the fight against Superlek and the other guy. Now he's

1970
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 15: going to fight rod Tang, and I think this is

1971
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 15: going to be it for him. I do think this

1972
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 15: is his final fight, and I think the miles on

1973
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 15: him are not just from fighting. When I compared him

1974
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 15: to Chuck Lateel and Vonder le Silva, it's also because

1975
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 15: of the way he trains. He is a guy who overtrains.

1976
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 15: He is getting into full on Jim wars routinely, so

1977
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 15: I think he's a guy who overtrains and it maybe

1978
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 15: has a little bit more damage. And if you remember,

1979
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 15: a good MMA comparison is Dan Henderson, where he was

1980
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 15: a guy who had a full range of tools, but

1981
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 15: then by the end of his career he was just

1982
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 15: throwing the overhand, so rather than having all the setups

1983
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 15: to the overhand, he just fell in love with that

1984
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 15: one thing. And I feel like tech Caro was in

1985
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 15: that same boat where he's not doing his step in

1986
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 15: leg kicks as much as he used to to get

1987
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 15: to the flurries. He's just going for the flurries. Now,

1988
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 15: Rod Tang is not overtrained him coming in and has

1989
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 15: the opposite problem where he actually hasn't been super active

1990
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 15: in the gym for the last couple of years. He

1991
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 15: got married and he's like, yeah, that's taken up all

1992
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 15: my time. I have child on the way. He even

1993
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 15: said in an interview for one of his past title

1994
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 15: defenses that he only trained two days, Like that's it, like,

1995
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,560
Speaker 15: not two days before the fight, just two days overall.

1996
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 15: So you've got one guy whose motivation for training is

1997
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 15: iffy versus another guy who is way the fuck overtrained.

1998
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 4: Who does one want to win?

1999
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 15: Matt Man, You know, one wants to win. They want

2000
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 15: Rod Day. That is their golden goose. That and for

2001
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 15: good reason. He's absolutely awesome, Like you put his highlights out,

2002
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 15: is going viral consistently, He's gonna be punching himself in

2003
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 15: the highlight reel one Championship. Absolutely wants Rod Tank to win.

2004
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 15: And you notice some you know, maybe that's an off

2005
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 15: air conversation.

2006
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 4: Never mind, what do you expect in terms of what

2007
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 4: the fight will look like early and then down the stretch.

2008
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 15: Takara oddly enough. I think he likes to pretend that

2009
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,560
Speaker 15: he's a fast starter, so he runs right out of

2010
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 15: his opponent, But he needs to get knocked down for

2011
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 15: him to really get his head in the game. He

2012
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 15: needs to get slapped up a little bit to get

2013
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 15: things going. And that's an interesting fold of his career

2014
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 15: consistently is that he hasn't been this world beater who

2015
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 15: looks flawless and no one ever touches him all up,

2016
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 15: you know, a Kane Velasquez or someone like that. He

2017
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 15: actually struggles in almost every fight and then comes back.

2018
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 15: So he's willing to take a few punches wake himself up,

2019
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 15: and then in the later rounds, mid rounds two and three,

2020
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 15: he's very very strong. So I think he's actually gonna

2021
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 15: get dropped in round one. It's just a matter of

2022
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 15: if he has willpower and stamina to come back. Now,

2023
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 15: he's never lost by knockout in his career, but I mean,

2024
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 15: rod Tang's a different beast, and there's a lot of

2025
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 15: pressure going into this fight. This is the oldest he's

2026
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 15: ever been, so I think it's going to be, you know,

2027
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 15: an absolute banger here.

2028
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 4: In the case of what can though I saw to

2029
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 4: Caeru say the winner of this is the best striker

2030
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 4: in the world, and obviously that's a promotional kind of title,

2031
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 4: but I guess I would ask, what can the winner

2032
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:34,959
Speaker 4: claim from this victory? Who are they after this contest?

2033
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 15: So okay, let's jump out of the promotional line here

2034
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,839
Speaker 15: a little bit. It's just essentially the second best fighter

2035
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 15: in this weight class after Attensi Nasacala. Both guys have

2036
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 15: lost attention Nasacala, and both of them have created incredible legacies.

2037
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 15: Despite that, losing to a guy like that, there's no

2038
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 15: shame in it. But yeah, this is fight is just

2039
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 15: going to define their legacy. This is the biggest fight

2040
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 15: for both fighters. This is going to be the most

2041
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 15: important fight on their record when we look back in

2042
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 15: ten years, this is the fight that we're still going

2043
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 15: to be talking about. This is the fight that's still

2044
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 15: going to be trending on YouTube ten years from now.

2045
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 15: So this is just like that Chuck Ladell and vonder

2046
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,719
Speaker 15: Ley Silva fight. Maybe there wasn't a title on the line,

2047
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 15: maybe both guys were at the end of their career,

2048
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 15: but it's still one of those fights that we talk about.

2049
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 15: Is a very very important milestone kind of fight.

2050
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 4: All right, as we wrap up, Tim, you're ready to

2051
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 4: give me a prediction. What do you think is going

2052
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 4: to happen? Who's going to get their hand raised? And

2053
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 4: if you are being bold by what method?

2054
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,879
Speaker 15: I am Man? I love Tekaro. He is like the coolest,

2055
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 15: coolest guy in the world.

2056
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 4: He's one of those.

2057
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 15: Guys who fell in love with kickboxing as a young

2058
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 15: young man because of the golden age of Kwan and

2059
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 15: like who didn't. But I can't look away from the

2060
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 15: miles on them getting in Jim Moore's routinely him struggling

2061
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:51,639
Speaker 15: in his last few bouts. Honestly, if rod Tang has

2062
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 15: trained for this fight, I have him winning this fight.

2063
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 15: But that's just my prediction. Luke, what do you see

2064
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 15: in it?

2065
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 4: Chaos?

2066
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:00,080
Speaker 3: Hey?

2067
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 4: I am waiting for this one. I I you know

2068
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 4: this is that we've talked about it off air, like

2069
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 4: this is not necessarily our strong suit, which is why

2070
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 4: we want to bring you in. But even I am

2071
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 4: pretty hyph for this one. And it seems like the

2072
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 4: martial arts world in general is pretty high for this one. Tim.

2073
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 4: If folks want more of your work, where can they

2074
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: get it? Man?

2075
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 15: I'm all over the place. I got an MMA show

2076
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 15: at Low Kick MMA, and then I have a kickboxing

2077
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 15: show kick Weekly with Tim Wheaton on the calf Kicksports Network.

2078
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 15: Just look up Tim Wheaton, you'll find me. Lynks will

2079
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 15: be down below or whatever.

2080
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 4: Tim Wheaton, thanks for your time, appreciate it. There we

2081
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 4: have it.

2082
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: Look, he's really good.

2083
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 4: He's great.

2084
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: Help me fired the hell up, because you know, our

2085
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: fans told us that when Rod Tank fought super like

2086
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: and when also Takiro fought super like, we missed it.

2087
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: They're like, how are you guys not talking about that.

2088
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're getting in tune to where we should be.

2089
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: And that just educated me a lot on what's going

2090
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: to happen on Sunday.

2091
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it gives you. I mean, listen, of course there's

2092
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 4: gonna be like more detailed breakdowns with the people who

2093
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,560
Speaker 4: really really want the hardcore stuff as it relates to kickboxing.

2094
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 4: But Tim is gonna Tim was great, So shouts to Tim.

2095
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 4: Go follow his work. He's awesome, and then we'll definitely

2096
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 4: have him back be see because he is useful and

2097
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 4: smart and fun. So shouts to him. And like I said,

2098
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 4: if you can listen to that and not be interested

2099
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 4: in the fight. I don't know if you have a

2100
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 4: fucking pulse. Man.

2101
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: Well, let's look at a couple of things here. He

2102
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: mentioned it could come down to how much rod Tang

2103
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: is training. Let's watch this video of rod Tang chaining

2104
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 1: his his chin for Takiu's power. Look, that's Siam's ill

2105
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 1: advised dude.

2106
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 4: That's okay. I mean, he's gonna have insane cte, but

2107
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 4: the fight's gonna bang. Let's just be honest about that.

2108
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 1: All right. We've got a face off from them after

2109
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 1: the press conference, so you can see what we're looking at.

2110
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 1: That is Rod Tang on the left to Caeru on

2111
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: the right. I love rod Tank's pants here, Luke, you.

2112
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's not the pants, it's what he's wearing

2113
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 4: on top of it or whatever that is. It's like,

2114
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 4: but yeah, dude, fucking fucking intense, crazy intense. I love it.

2115
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 1: They're Shatri overseeing that one right there. Well, shout out

2116
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 1: to Shatri for putting this together. And Luke, Takaru did

2117
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 1: fight super Like in January of twenty twenty four, and

2118
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: he got a super leg injury in the five round

2119
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,959
Speaker 1: unanimous decision loss. Here's super like talking about the recovery

2120
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: from that.

2121
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 6: He's a.

2122
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 4: Kid.

2123
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:51,560
Speaker 6: Got has you mean to tell me?

2124
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 4: As ques to Google?

2125
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 3: Also, you can much set on this too. You stay

2126
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 3: at yokucin Hi.

2127
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look that videos got me fire. These

2128
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: guys are savage superheroes.

2129
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 4: This is what I mean, Like, does one need to

2130
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Speaker 4: be doing lesser MMA? If they can do stuff like this,

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they do to be honest.

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Speaker 1: All right, that goes down Sunday Saitama super Arena And

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Speaker 1: a reminder, watch dot one FC dot com is where

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Speaker 1: you can purchase this global pay per view. A lot

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Speaker 1: of MMA, some names we know that we mentioned right there.

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Speaker 1: Very good stuff right there. All right, that wraps our

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01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: top five topics. Now we'll get into a pair of

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Speaker 1: brief fan segments. We put out the call of course

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Speaker 1: to Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Your pipeline to

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Speaker 1: show Mikey your pipe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, only pipes.

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Speaker 1: All right. We start off with an opportunity here to

2143
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Speaker 1: take the stand. Maybe we don't always say everything that's accurate.

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01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes in fact we are dead.

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01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 4: Wrong then wrong.

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01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: We got one dead wrong this week. It's from Sadiq

2147
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: and he says that one fifty four of Monday Show

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01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: March seventeenth, Luke referred to John Jones's haircut as quote

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01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: the Kimbo slice bit. But it's actually just an avatar

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01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 1: of the Last Airbender haircut. You uncultured swine, these fucking nerds.

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01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 4: Oh my god, guys, I understand it's an anime reference

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01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 4: by virtue of if you go back and look at

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01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 4: the picture, there's other things happening. I made a joke

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01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 4: because Kimbo slice also put one in his chest, as

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01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 4: did Brian eversall as like also a Kimbo slice bit.

2156
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 4: I didn't think he was actually doing a Kimbo slice bit.

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01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 4: I just thought it was a joke to say it's

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Speaker 4: a Kimbo Get the fuck out of here with this shit. Wow,

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Speaker 4: the way called, by the way, by the way, Like,

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Speaker 4: is there some kind of concerted effort to ignore all

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01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 4: of the various errors you're made and only focused on

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01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 4: like I feel like the last like nine of these

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01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 4: have only focused on what I mean, which to say, fine,

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01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 4: I get somebody these wrong, but like they're they're purposely

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01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 4: not doing yours. I've noticed that.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think I think I'm undefeated. Dude, I think

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01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 1: that's what's going on, all right.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to take me down a peg, which is fine,

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01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 4: come after me. I don't give a ship. But they're

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Speaker 4: definitely you're being you're the DEI fucking case here.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 4: They're you know, you're getting you're getting some special treatment here.

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01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 1: You know who's getting some special treatment? Reggie J. Luke,

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Speaker 1: he's back, man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see his butthole.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we don't we don't play that game in this house. Okay, Look,

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Speaker 1: we got one more fans segment for you. I'm surprised

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01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 1: Daz didn't mahallow our ass on that dead wrong and

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Speaker 1: and give these mmf ors right right, Luke, blast from

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Speaker 1: the past, That's what I'm talking about. Hey, we got

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01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: another segment called fan Submissions, where you send in your

2182
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Speaker 1: artwork pictures of your wife in tight T shirts. Louke,

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Speaker 1: did you hear, by the way that I had the

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Speaker 1: Great saul A of Louisville I my live ramble on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday Live from the Ladder when he was cleaning gutters

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Speaker 1: in Louisville.

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Speaker 4: MM.

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Speaker 1: Great, great stuff, dude.

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Speaker 4: It was epic.

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Speaker 6: He's literally on the gutters live. It was fucking awesome.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. This one's called fan submissions.

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Speaker 4: You've got mail fures.

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01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 1: The immortal voice of Gaffney Jim Pierre. Right there, let's

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Speaker 1: hear from Long Island Rob. He says, Hey, it's Long

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Speaker 1: Island Rob here. Happy Friday. This past Saturday, I had

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Speaker 1: another opportunity to coach and corner my longtime friend and

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Speaker 1: training partner Disco Danny Fox for his second amateur MMA match.

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Speaker 1: We worked on some things after our last match, even

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01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: though we didn't get to display a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: Why you ask, because Disco Dan won by TKKO twenty

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Speaker 1: seconds into the first round. He's carved out of stone

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01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 1: with devastating power in his hands and a killer ground game.

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01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: As BC says, he is coming on, let me know

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Speaker 1: what you think of his performance.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's see. Wow, a little bit aggressive, but

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01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 4: that's that's oh wow.

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Speaker 1: Kind of looks like Jack Della from this.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you something if you if you watch MMA

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Speaker 4: at this level, I'm telling you I've seen so many

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01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 4: fights like this. If you just overwhelm your opponent, if

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01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 4: you're like one and oh or two and oh, if

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01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 4: you just like take the fight immediately to them. They

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01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:28,560
Speaker 4: typically don't have the ability to just resist. They just

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01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 4: they kind of just cover up because they don't you know,

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01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 4: they're obviously inexperienced fighters. You'll win eighty percent of the

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Speaker 4: time doing that.

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Speaker 1: What weight class do you think Disco Danny Fox.

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Speaker 4: Is at I don't know, forty five something like.

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Speaker 1: That, because I think for our second fight under MK Promotions, right,

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Speaker 1: our first one is uh Das versus Daz is gonna

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01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: bare knuckle telephon Key Papa at the Lava Shack. But

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Speaker 1: for our second one, can we get Christian Deguero against

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01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Disco Danny Fox for MK Promotions? We you and I

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01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: each pick a corner, right, Oh thank god?

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Speaker 4: All right, I'd be fun of shit I do that.

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Speaker 1: No, seed, are you down with this Long Island Rob

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01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:06,599
Speaker 1: character stealing everything.

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Speaker 4: You work for?

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Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, I'm I'm about to go

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01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 5: see Danny Fox fight live next time.

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Speaker 6: He's fighting in Brentwood and rightswn the road.

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Speaker 1: Man. Hey shout out seriously to Long Island Rob Disco

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Speaker 1: Danny Fox. Congratulations on the wind. I don't know if

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01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: there's a future of you putting an MK patch on

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01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: your ball sack, but we gotta love a lot of

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01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 1: love for you to garrow all the crew here. We

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Speaker 1: love you, Thank you. Let's hear from the Rick Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: He has one photo surrounding me.

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Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Luke Thomas. Every day, Brian and countless others

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Speaker 4: like him chase the fleeting high of nitrous oxide in

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Speaker 4: the back of the Arby's parking lots, behind the roast beef,

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Speaker 4: behind the curly fries. They're crying out for help. A

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Speaker 4: dollar a day, that's all it takes to save them.

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Speaker 4: For less than the cost of a beef and cheddar.

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Speaker 4: You can give Brian a future, a future without the

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Speaker 4: hiss of nitrous a future where he's back in the studio,

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Speaker 4: not passed out by the drive through. Your donation provides counseling,

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Speaker 4: a war meal that isn't Arby's, and a chance at redemption.

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Speaker 4: Call now one. Eight hundred Save Brian operators are standing by.

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Speaker 4: Together we can pull Brian Campbell and so many others

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Speaker 4: from the Arby's. Abyss. Don't let another night end with

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Speaker 4: the sound of whipped cream and regret.

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Speaker 1: Look, thank you for launching your substack to point out

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Speaker 1: this injustice in the world.

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Speaker 4: For a good cause. You know what I'm saying for

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Speaker 4: a good cause.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations once again on thanks, thanks.

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Speaker 4: Everyone who subscribed. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, great to hear right there. Thank you very

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01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: much the Rick Sanchez for that. Here's r J who

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Speaker 1: has a photo.

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Speaker 4: So what's what's the implication here that he's saving our asses?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that he is, you know, come up from the

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Speaker 1: earth to help carry the car from the dead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's something to be said for that. Although

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Speaker 4: you also but you don't look this cool? Can I

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Speaker 4: tell you that's truth about that one?

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Speaker 6: I mean, no one looks as cool as this.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's a fair point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard you mentioned Edward for long

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01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: earlier on that one card. He was great in T two, right, Luke,

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Speaker 1: he was awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey, let's hear from Jeff. He says, good afternoon, gents.

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Speaker 1: I believe the legend goes quote and with the herb

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01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:15,520
Speaker 1: of hades, Luke stumbled into the land of latinas Cartahana

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01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 1: pronunciation for the avercultured BC Columbia, where he heard the

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Speaker 1: sirens echoing. Ola Papacito and his comrades watched helplessly until

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Speaker 1: they were taken hold by the siren call as well.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like, if you're gonna have a weakness,

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Speaker 4: this is a pretty good one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, my weakness is wieners apparently, look of the edible kind,

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01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: and yours is Latino.

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01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 4: Well, there's many kinds of edible wieners BC.

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Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, I don't get down

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01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: with that kind necessarily. That is hilarious. Thank you very

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01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: much for your contribution, Jeff. Do we have one more

2289
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: in Long Island? Lucre is at an empty spot.

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01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 6: That's it, all right?

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01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 1: That is it Morning Combat at gmail dot com and

2292
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 1: Luke real there it is right there. Get you can

2293
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: get your fan subs, dead wrongs, reach out to the show, complain, critique,

2294
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 1: whatever you got for us. We'll take it. Thank you, Luke.

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01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 1: Of course I'll be getting on a plane in minutes.

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Speaker 1: I will be Saturday Night on the Call, Prime Video,

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Speaker 1: no pay per view, Prime Video, eight pm Eastern, a

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Speaker 1: triple header from PBC with the Yeah, thank you very much, Moro, Ronalo, Abnermars, Jordan,

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Speaker 1: Plant Myself. Main event. Sebastian Fundora, first fight since that

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01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 1: bloody war against Tim Zu last year where he became

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Speaker 1: a unified champion at one hundred and fifty four pounds.

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Speaker 1: He'll welcome Stanford, Connecticut's own Cordale Booker. Now, Fondora a

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01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 1: big time betting favorite here, a lot of potential big

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01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 1: matchups for him in the future. But I don't count

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01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 1: out Booker here because you know Fondora, Luke, he'll give

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01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: away his height, He'll he'll bend over and he'll just

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01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 1: brawl with you. So this should be an interesting test.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a million feet tall and fights like he's

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01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,080
Speaker 4: abdu Rosick. I mean, I just can't believe it. So

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Speaker 4: enjoy that.

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01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 1: Indeed right there, So, uh, that should be interesting. The

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01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 1: triple header also give us the return of Jesus Ramos

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Speaker 1: Junior in the Cole main event, so could he be

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Speaker 1: a future opponent. Look, if Fondora gets by this test,

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01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: and he is a minus fourteen hundred betting favorite according

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01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: to DraftKings against the plus seven to fifty Booker, is

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01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: there a one fifty four you want to see him

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01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 1: against most?

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Speaker 4: I mean, wasn't he supposed to fight Spence?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I still want that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that one. By the way, I

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01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 4: also saw that PBC or I'm not sure if it's

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01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 4: a PBC event. But Tim Zuo's fighting Joey Spencer in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's that is Saturday, April fifth. It's April. I

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01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: like that fight now under and that will be on

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Speaker 1: Prime video regular Prime videos.

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Speaker 4: I like that fight. I think that's I like that

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01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 4: fight a lot.

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Speaker 1: And then if he wins, they're already talking about doing

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Speaker 1: Tim Zuo Keith Thurman in July, so that could be interesting.

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01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 1: Thurman though, is saying, look, I'll fight anybody. Give me Charlo,

2332
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 1: give me Fundora, give me Spence, give me whatever. So wow, okay,

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01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: there it is also does this Weekend from Sydney. George

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01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 1: Cambosis is moving up to one point and he's taken

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Speaker 1: on a late replacement. The belief is that he would

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01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: then fight Richardson Hitchins for a title if that goes down, Luke,

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01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you care.

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01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 14: About that though.

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01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. That is the show that we

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Speaker 1: have for today, So Luke anything. Tim Wheaton was a

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Speaker 1: fantastic guest. We certainly hope to see more of him

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Speaker 1: Low Kick MMA and other places. You can follow us

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Speaker 1: right there below our YouTube channels. Dude, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: have an interview next week with Edgar Berlanga that I've

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Speaker 1: filmed last night. That is is Yeah, he gets loose

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Speaker 1: and turn four. He wants all the smoke and all

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Speaker 1: the money, Luke. So it's going to be interesting to see.

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Speaker 4: All right, well, I look forward to that and like

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Speaker 4: I mentioned, UFC London, watch a long post fight show

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Speaker 4: live on my YouTube tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Either all right, main card minute? What time we go

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Speaker 1: on live tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing the full card tomorrow one pm.

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Speaker 5: You could join me for the prelims, join Luke for

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Speaker 5: the main card if you want, or join me for both.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, bond there it is, whoop there it is.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for it to all of you

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Speaker 1: for coming in an hour early to facilitate my travel schedules,

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Speaker 1: staff and viewers included. Have a great weekend, take care

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Speaker 1: of yourselves, enjoy the fights. Don't forget to Caro O

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Speaker 1: versus Rod Tang on Sunday. Should be fun. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back in the studio Monday, Manhattan Metal Lark to break

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Speaker 1: it all down for Long Island, Luke, Luke Thomas. This

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Speaker 1: is Brian Campbell. Take care of yourselves, folks. Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.