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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Hunt's Giants, dunt coet my giants, give me some.

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Speaker 1: Job part of the Giants podcast network.

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Speaker 3: Let's roll and now we're joined by number sixty seven

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Speaker 3: on the Giants one hundred list, former linebacker Brian Kelly. Brian,

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Speaker 3: thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing fantastic and it's great being here.

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Speaker 5: And it's such an honor to you know, even though

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Speaker 5: I'm sixty seven and I'm actually behind a few kickers,

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Speaker 5: which are.

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Speaker 1: This is me.

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Speaker 5: I mean, how can a middle linebacker be behind two kickers?

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Speaker 4: I just don't get that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to talk to you about the linebackers

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Speaker 3: because you were a member of the Crunch Bunch Giants

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Speaker 3: lore one of the greatest linebacking units there was.

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Speaker 1: What made your group special?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it was just a lot of things.

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Speaker 5: Of the unity between us and togetherness was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: I mean we did everything together. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: just happened the same way on the field.

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Speaker 4: We just did every and we protected each other and stuff.

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Speaker 5: I knew when Brad van Pelt was paying you know,

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Speaker 5: Brad wouldn't let him, you know. And you just had

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Speaker 5: You know, it was just phenomenon. It was like you

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: As far as your linebackers, I knew that, you know,

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Speaker 5: especially with you know, when we got LT. You don't

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Speaker 5: but that he wasn't bringing him in and but uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, it just it was just a great crew.

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Speaker 5: Even afterwards when we all retired and stuff, we went

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Speaker 5: on vacation together stealing stuff. That's just telling you what

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Speaker 2: Well, even the Habitat for Humanity you guys, you guys

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Speaker 5: We did that, and we also went down to Washington,

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Speaker 4: We did a thing down there and went and saw

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Speaker 4: But habit that he managed.

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Speaker 5: We went to right out something I think it's Pablo,

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: You guys were inseparable, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely we still are. I mean, me and LT are

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Speaker 5: Remember Ezachly Okay in AI Division two, Okay.

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Speaker 2: And from that to not only a dozen years in

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Speaker 1: That is an incredible journey.

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Speaker 5: It was unbelievable journey. And it started out pretty slim,

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Speaker 5: because you know, in nineteen seventy three when I was drafted,

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Speaker 5: Brad van Pelt was the number one pick. Yeah, as

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Speaker 3: So I want to ask you, Brian, I want to

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Speaker 3: give you a chance to go about Brad van Pelt.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he's not with us day, we'd love to be

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Speaker 3: he was and what made him special.

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Speaker 1: What made brand van Pelt the special player that he was.

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Speaker 5: You know, I tell you what made him special was

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Speaker 5: just he was what probably the one of the greatest

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Speaker 5: don't realize that he was. He was All State All

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Speaker 5: And he also was an All State basketball player and

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Speaker 5: I mean, the guy was just an unbelievable athlete. I mean,

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Speaker 5: here's a guy six five, two hundred and forty five

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Speaker 5: running up to the Heisman his senior year.

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Speaker 4: Brad Van Pelt. He was one of the greatest athletes

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Speaker 5: Come out of college. I mean, he was just super

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Speaker 5: He was he was fabulous. I just loved playing with him. Mean,

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Speaker 5: and I'm sure every person says this about somebody on

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Speaker 4: Guy not in the Hall of Fame? Fifteen years in

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Speaker 5: Five Probos in a row in a row. How can

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Speaker 5: he was just a great person to be with. And

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Speaker 5: I miss Dane. I loved him to death.

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Speaker 2: You played during a very very difficult time in Giants' history,

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Speaker 2: but then in nineteen eighty one, you guys cracked through

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Speaker 2: and made it to the playoffs. How special was that

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 5: You know, the turning point, what to me, was started

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Speaker 4: Day after the game, true story, true story.

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Speaker 5: And then that and the veterans got upset about and

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Speaker 5: he said, you know what, I heard, all this ramling

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Speaker 4: I don't care, just like that, and we.

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Speaker 1: Just went like that.

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Speaker 5: We knew it's a different world, you know, And he

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Speaker 2: Got anything else, Baul, Well, I will tell you, Brian,

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Speaker 2: the one thing that I always admired about you is

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Speaker 4: My wife might not agree with you, but.

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Speaker 2: But I mean you you were a week side backer

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, It's good. Thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks thanks for being here. What does it mean

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Speaker 1: Where to begin?

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Speaker 7: First of all, I'm honored that I'd be selected in

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Speaker 7: Secondly, the guys that I am here with are people

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Speaker 2: You know, George, when you came to the Giants, You're

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Speaker 4: You have nearly one hundred career sacks.

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Speaker 2: They don't keep track of all that stuff because you

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Speaker 7: It was really a mixed blessing because you brought in

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Speaker 2: So you know, I wonder how much more it means

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Speaker 7: You hit the nail right on the head. As a

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Speaker 3: What makes the difference besides the obvious thing talent, right

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Speaker 7: That is the sixty four thousand dollars question, and that's

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Speaker 2: You know, George, this weekend the Vikings, you're here to

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Speaker 2: You had a chance to go play with him after

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Speaker 2: You never put on another jersey or another helmet. How

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Speaker 1: Mean to you?

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Speaker 1: I could not have scripted it in better.

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Speaker 4: Last one for me.

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Speaker 3: Just to kind of wrap up your point here, what

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's it's it's very it's very gratifying. And I

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Speaker 7: Every time I put this ring on, it signifies something.

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Speaker 7: This signifies the longevity, It signifies the stick touitiveness, It

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Speaker 2: All right, George, I'm gonna put you on the spot,

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Speaker 2: all right. So many great plays, so many touchdowns. Who

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Speaker 2: We know the touchdown return against Denver, we know, we

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Speaker 1: Then what is your favorite.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how you remember all this stuff. I

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Speaker 1: You are all phenomenal. You've always been phenomenal.

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Speaker 7: But to answer the question, you know, and now go

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Speaker 1: All good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, twenty five the Giants, one hundred list, George Moore

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Speaker 3: and thank you much, Thank you guys very much for

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Speaker 1: Gradulation much congratulations. Thank you,