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Speaker 1: Drom l RAM Studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is March seventh. I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: I am with DeMarco far Our producer Matt is behind

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Speaker 1: the camera. It is not March sixth. He's trying to

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Speaker 1: mess me up because I keep messing up the date

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Speaker 1: in the open and I'm not trying to do that today.

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Speaker 1: So that's good. We're I'm not my brain might be

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's eleven fifteen Pacific time on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: at March seventh. Good to be back in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you. Did you run the forty

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Speaker 1: at the comb? Did I run the fourth? If you

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Speaker 1: did run the forty, what would you run? M probably

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Speaker 1: like a five nine eight five nine actually, And this

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Speaker 1: is funny. It's funny. Oklahoma the tackle, Yeah, oh Orlando, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was you know what? And it's funny that that

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Speaker 1: happened like that because you know Orlando Brown's father was right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so when something like that kind of happens, it

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Speaker 1: makes me think, man, like, did you prepare for this? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Yeah, I just I don't know. I'd still

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Speaker 1: go see him at his pro day, and I guarantee

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Speaker 1: it will be better. I mean, combine is intimidating, man, right,

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Speaker 1: that's part of it, That's part of the evaluation process.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to run a fast time, but

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Speaker 1: sometimes that environment just gets to you. It's weird, and

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Speaker 1: I think it got to him. You can't be that slow, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and be that good? Yeah, you're not the guy I

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Speaker 1: saw on film? Right, And that's what that's what everybody wants.

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Speaker 1: It always says about the combine. You're trying to see

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Speaker 1: what matches what you saw on film, and if something

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Speaker 1: doesn't match, if a guy's a little bit faster than that,

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Speaker 1: then you got to go watch the film again. And

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Speaker 1: if he's maybe slower then you saw on tape, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: let me trust what I saw on this film. And

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Speaker 1: does always talk about that. I mean his diet could

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Speaker 1: have been off whatever. I mean, he might have been

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Speaker 1: suffering through anxiety, messed him up. Yeah, he'll he'll test

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Speaker 1: better on his pro day. But the guy in pads

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Speaker 1: is a damn good football play. He'll be on somebody's

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Speaker 1: team soon, right, But you'll never be able to live

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Speaker 1: that down. Yes, I bet he wishes you ran if

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Speaker 1: you ran a five, probably, yeah, I'm I'm thinking more

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Speaker 1: of sixes. By the way, I don't think there's a

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Speaker 1: five anywhere in your forty yard. No, I honestly think so.

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Speaker 1: If you go on the rams dot com. This is

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Speaker 1: the actual true thing, and I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: would find it. But back in twenty fifteen, so this

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Speaker 1: is just after the twenty fourteen season. For the time,

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Speaker 1: we're talking the past. Okay, yes, but it's not a

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Speaker 1: caulled three years year. Still, it's like three or four years.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the past. We're talking about right now.

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Speaker 1: But all right, fine, but there there is a video

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Speaker 1: of me running the forty and you ran I think

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Speaker 1: I ran like a five eight something. Okay, I'm pretty sure,

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Speaker 1: but you know I would check right now we're in

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Speaker 1: the sixes. Maybe right now, right now after the week

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Speaker 1: I just spent in Indianapolis anyway, indulging. Yes, anyway, you

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Speaker 1: got us on a weird starve because I want to

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Speaker 1: do you guys ever address the push up challenge? No, see,

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring it up. The push up challenge. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a part of that I want to

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Speaker 1: bring up. But I'm not going to bring up because

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Speaker 1: I'm not that type of guy. I'm not that type

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Speaker 1: of guy talking about my fitness when we should be

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Speaker 1: talking because I haven't see you and forever. We should

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Speaker 1: be talking about the Rams franchising LaMarcus. We had plenty

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Speaker 1: of time. We're gonna get that. We're gonna get to that.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it now. Okay, let's get right to it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do thirty push ups though I did not

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Speaker 1: do thirty fushups twenty seven. But he still walked outside

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Speaker 1: looking to get paid. Oh my gosh, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to get paid LaMarcus Joiner and he's going to get paid, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: it's the franchise tenure. Yeah, and that would be a

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Speaker 1: one year deal. But what was your reaction when you

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Speaker 1: heard yesterday the Rams that decided to franchise LaMarcus. Well,

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Speaker 1: the last time we did between the horns, we were

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Speaker 1: didn't um. The alternative was to Okay, let Sammy test

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Speaker 1: Either way, you have to keep LaMarcus Joiner in the building.

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Speaker 1: So Martin moved by the Rams tremendous player. Some guys, look,

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Speaker 1: LaMarcus is never going to fit into what you think

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Speaker 1: always leaky from game one Indianapolis going all the way

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Speaker 1: through some of these runs, Frank Gore could have popped.

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Speaker 1: I think Carlos Hide could have popped. But at the

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Speaker 1: And I can't even count what happened against Washington because

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Speaker 1: he's a hitter, he's very smart. I put him in

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Speaker 1: Smart move not letting him walk out the building, right.

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Speaker 1: I think when you're talking about LaMarcus Journer, you're still

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Speaker 1: but it's like, Okay, LaMarcus Joyner is clearly one of

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Speaker 1: your best defensive players. How do we get him on

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Speaker 1: get LaMarcus Joyner coming up with three interceptions And what's

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Speaker 1: that's kind of hard to believe because he's a kind

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Speaker 1: changing up the guard game. Yeah. And so for those reason, yes, yea,

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Speaker 1: for those reasons, you have to keep LaMarcus Joinner in

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Speaker 1: sky's the limit. That was just year one. This defense

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Speaker 1: and so is LaMarcus Joiner, which means I think at

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Speaker 1: some point you're going to be talking about him as

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Speaker 1: the gold standard. I think so too. And that's why

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Speaker 1: Rams knew that. Yeah, you know. And even so, okay,

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Speaker 1: the numbers of things, but with the franchise tag, you're

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Speaker 1: probably looking at LaMarcus Joyner getting the average annual value

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Speaker 1: for a long term deal. And the Rams still have

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Speaker 1: the chance to negotiate a long term deal with LaMarcus

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Speaker 1: Joinner through July sixteenth, that's when that deadline is there. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Now you keep building around him, yes, yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: He got it, he understood it. He might be the

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Speaker 1: So smart move. Now the only question becomes what becomes

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Speaker 1: it's tough because Sammy Watkins was your second round pick

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Speaker 1: But you got him for that production last season, right,

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Speaker 1: You got eight touchdowns out of that, you got thirty

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Speaker 1: he performs very well. Now is that the ideal situation? No,

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver's coach, you can present something to Sammy

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Speaker 1: you back on April sixteenth, I think that's when the

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Speaker 1: what the rest of the league is going to think

421
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 1: of you. Now you've got two choices. You can either

422
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: run to it or run from it and get better.

423
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's a lot left for him

424
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: in this office. Absolutely. Yeah, He's got a lot of ability.

425
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: Now maybe a lot was thrown at him, and he

426
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: is a rookie, but like Cooper Cup, like Josh Reynolds,

427
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: all these young guys, even guys going from year two

428
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: to year three, you're expecting a jump, right, Yeah, there

429
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: was a change over last year. You did great with it.

430
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: Now you're expecting another big push from team. And I think,

431
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't bring up Cooper Cup's name intentionally

432
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: because we saw a lot of production out of him.

433
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: But he's another guy where it's like, Okay, you're one,

434
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: you were at a certain spot, you know, say you're here,

435
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: you're two. Why not be here, you know, and continue

436
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: that job. We continue to improve. Who was that? Was it?

437
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: Tory hold Er? Somebody tweeted out they were tweeting about

438
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Speaker 1: fits and the numbers they put up, and they were

439
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 1: small numbers. They were his drops throughout his entire career

440
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: and I think his career high as five and he

441
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: finished the year with zero. A lot. I think it

442
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: was it was Antonio Brown talking about Larry Fitzger, like

443
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: this is what I consider a pro same thing for

444
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. Now you had the drop seas or some

445
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: issues this year, Well, from now on become Steve Largent.

446
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: Don't drop anything. Yeah yeah, if you complete those passes,

447
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: where are you offensively and where are you as a

448
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: receiver with your numbers exactly? And it's interesting. I remember

449
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 1: talking to Less Sneat about this, and I think he

450
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: brought it up at the Senior Bowl, and we sort

451
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: of did at the Combine the last couple of weeks

452
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: as well. Cup is one of those guys where you

453
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Speaker 1: see him and you know he's polished because you watched

454
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Speaker 1: him on film from college, and then he goes to

455
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Speaker 1: the combine and then he runs a bit of a

456
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: slower forty and in some ways it's kind of like, OK,

457
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: it's one of those moments where it's like that really

458
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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily match what I saw on film. But at

459
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Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, oh, it doesn't match what

460
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: I saw on film, but he ran a little bit slower,

461
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: so he might fall to where we can get him.

462
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Speaker 1: And that's where the Rams kind of got a little

463
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: bit lucky in that they were able to get Cooper

464
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 1: Cup because he did not necessarily have the best combine performance,

465
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Speaker 1: and now you see what he's done. I just it's

466
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Speaker 1: funny when you watch defenses. Don't even waste your time

467
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: talking trash one. He's not going to answer number two.

468
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna hurt you when he comes back out. Yeah yeah,

469
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean he is that smart, he's that good. He's

470
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Speaker 1: pretty good. He's really good at wherever they line him up,

471
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Speaker 1: I mean, for whatever coverage, and as soon as the

472
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Speaker 1: ball is snapped, he knows what you're in and what

473
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: your responsibilities are, and he's going to make you pay

474
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: for making mistakes. He sees the defense almost like a quarterback.

475
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 1: Ye's what multiple guys have said about him. But I

476
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Speaker 1: do want to talk more about the NFL combine in Indianapolis. Yeah, sure,

477
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: because it's one of those events that it's kind of

478
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: the marquee event of the off season in terms of

479
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: everybody in the NFL being in one place. It's kind

480
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: of like the NFL Convention more so than in my opinion,

481
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: at least, maybe owners meetings might be, the draft might be,

482
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: because literally you've got the thirty two coaches, the thirty

483
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: two general managers. Some teams don't have them, but you

484
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, in one spot, scouts from every team,

485
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, reporters basically from every team and all around there,

486
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Speaker 1: and it's it's a fun event for that reason because

487
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 1: you get to see guys that you know from other teams.

488
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: You know, like whether you're a coach, and it's the

489
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: highest level of that, and you know there are guys

490
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: that you came in with or even if you're me,

491
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: and you see like reporters that you don't necessarily get

492
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: to see all the time, but are your friends because

493
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: you perform the same job and all that. But it's

494
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: really fun and I think the funny one of the

495
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: funny things about it is kind of the there's a JW.

496
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Speaker 1: Marriott in downtown Indianapolis and that's where pretty much the

497
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Speaker 1: Who's whoe everybody stays and there's kind of a skywall bar, yes,

498
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: fantastic hotel. Yes, yeah, again it's the Who's who. Like,

499
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: so you will you will see people from the NFL

500
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: if you're down there and you see it all the time.

501
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes like yeah, people just from Indianapolis. Like I think

502
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: I saw like people wearing jerseys that we're probably at

503
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: the NFL experience in the convention center. They like meander

504
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 1: over there and then there's kind of like looking like

505
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: who am I going to see? It down here, but

506
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: if you really want to see people, you got to

507
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: go to the second level because there's a Starbucks there,

508
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: and so basically anybody who's everybody, he is going through

509
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: that Starbucks on the way to the convention Center. So

510
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking like, I saw y'all away there, y'all have

511
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: caffee today exactly. John Elway was in line there. I

512
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: saw Dan Marino in line, John Lynch who was sitting

513
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: in to breakfast sandwich one day, and you know, Adam

514
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: Schefter comes through there. Ian Rappaport like like I'm saying, like,

515
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: it's really everybody. And so one day, you know, as

516
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Speaker 1: you basically the way you do it is you walk

517
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: from that hotel, you get past the Starbucks, there's a

518
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: skywalk that you can go over to the convention Center,

519
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: and then from the convention Center you walk through to

520
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: Lucasoil Stadium. If you're a coach of Scout whatever. All

521
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: the media is situated now in the Convention Center, which

522
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: is convenient, but in convenient anyway, So you know, you

523
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: basically can see a lot of people walking through there.

524
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Speaker 1: And so one day I ran into Matt Lafleur, the

525
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans, a former offensive

526
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: coordinator of the La Rams, and I just told him.

527
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you know, congratulations and he was like, yeah,

528
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think one thing you said was there's

529
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: no hiding now, right, which is kind of funny, but

530
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: it is. It's going to be his first opportunity to

531
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: call plays, which is cool. And the other thing I

532
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: mean he said was that, you know, it was kind

533
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: of a tough decision to leave LA because he and

534
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: Sean mcvair are so close, right, And that's kind of like,

535
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, it, I think kind of underscores the personal

536
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: aspects of things. You know, that goes back to the

537
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: Sammy conversation. Hey, look, sometimes you gotta do what you

538
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: gotta do right and sometimes this situation is just better exactly.

539
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: And you know, for him it's it's professional growth and

540
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: that is part of it. And you get to work

541
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: with a quarterback like Mario and then on the opposite side,

542
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, you have a chance to be to be

543
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: a head coach, and then you say, you know what,

544
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable where I'm at. Yeah, I don't want to

545
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: leave here. So it just whatever makes you happy, whatever

546
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: gives you that chance to be the best you can

547
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: possibly be. That that's the angle, that's the approach you

548
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: have to take. Absolutely, And look, it's it sucks. I

549
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: hate when you do that. Usually it was the opposite way.

550
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean when you were at the combine

551
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: and you saw coaches that were here, they got fired.

552
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's different. It is different. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah,

553
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's been kind of in that way the

554
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: last few years. Right now, it's like, yeah, good to

555
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: see you again, and I'll see you down the road,

556
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: right Yeah, now, I'm glad you got a Job's like.

557
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: But another story from just walking through the convention center.

558
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: It was Sunday, I think, and I'm on my way

559
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: over to Lucas Oil Stadium and somebody is sitting there,

560
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, gentlemen, maybe mid thirties, forties. He's with

561
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: his two kids, and I think his wife was there too,

562
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: and he sort of stop seeing. It's like, oh, what

563
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: team do you work for? I tell him Los Angeles

564
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: Rams and he says, oh, wow, your coach Sean McVeigh

565
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: just stopped by and he was talking to my kids

566
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: for a few minutes, and I hope. I'm not like

567
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: embarrassing Sean mcfay by telling the story. But he said

568
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: was that McVeigh couldn't have been nicer, you know, and

569
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 1: that he was just so genuine. And he told me like, oh,

570
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: he signed the football and he says, he signed it

571
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: we not me. He goes, what does we not me? Mean? Wow?

572
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: I was like, well, funny that you I mean, but yeah,

573
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: you know, it's all about the team and it's all

574
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: about putting the team up above the individual. But I

575
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: just thought it was I think it's ablematic of who

576
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh is that you know, stops, takes time, talks

577
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: to the kid, signs the football. Just was a nice story.

578
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Don't ever lose that, I hope, Yeah, because it's going

579
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: to change at some point as you get going. I mean,

580
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: I remember when Sean Payton was the boy wonder and

581
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: then I mean from that guy to where we are

582
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: now completely Differget no, no, what's funny? I mean McVay

583
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: always says this, but I did tell him about that

584
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: before we interviewed him on Sunday morning and he goes, yeah,

585
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: you know what, it's always better than somebody booing, right,

586
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: that's true. This is true. So depends on why they're

587
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: cheering you though. Yeah yeah, that's true. Yeah yeah. But anyway,

588
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: so those are just a couple of dude behind the

589
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: scenes things from the combine. But when it comes to

590
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: combine performances, do you monitor the combine? How much do

591
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: you watch? I do? Um, just for what we were

592
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: talking about, to make sure that you know what you

593
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: see on film, the stuff that really matters when you

594
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: put on the helmet and shoulder pads. Make sure the

595
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: it matches what you see at the combine. If you

596
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: think a guy's got quick feet and then you see

597
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: it in the three three cone drill. If you think

598
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: this receiver has blazing speed, you want to see that time,

599
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: you know in the forty like, what's the kid from

600
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Penn State, Barkley. Yes, you knew he was fast, you

601
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: knew he could be the best running back in the draft.

602
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: Now after you see this, he might be the best

603
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: player in the draft, right, Yeah, it might be hard

604
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: to pass him up. So it matters, it really does.

605
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: But it's not football. It's it's drills. Yes, um, It's

606
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: it's about health, it's about preparing, it's about all this concentration,

607
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: but you're not carrying the ball and no one's tackling you.

608
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: So it matters, but not that much. What matters is

609
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: what happens when you get to camp and when you

610
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: put the pads on. But you want, you want to

611
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: make sure that this guy you're seeing in sweats or

612
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: tights or whatever they were in these days matches up

613
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: with the guy you saw on video. Right. Yeah, and quarterbacks,

614
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: it's hard, man. You know, some guys like I know

615
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: who was I talking to? It's hard for him to

616
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: just drop back and throw to people in practice. He

617
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: needs to have people coming after him sure to get

618
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: those juices going to where he's accurate. It's just one

619
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: of those weird things. So some quarterbacks will look great

620
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: at the combine and then you put guys around him

621
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: and they look terrible, and you'll see the opposite. Right,

622
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: he looks terrible at the combine, couldn't hit anything, and

623
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: then you see him in a game and he's wow, Right,

624
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: he's a pro bowler. So just take it with a

625
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: grain of salt. But what you really want to see

626
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: is a guy that's prepared for it and really just

627
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, looks like he took this seriously. Yeah, it

628
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mean everything, but at least you took it seriously, right.

629
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, it's this a job interview, right,

630
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: and you're interviewing basically with all thirty two teams formally

631
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: and informally. Right. There are these formal sessions and I

632
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: wrote about this at the Rams dot com if you

633
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: have not seen that story, but there you get top

634
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: sixty interviews and you get fifteen minutes with them, and

635
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: it's basically like speed dating. These guys are going from

636
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: one room to the next, to the next to the next.

637
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: And so what mcvayh and Sneed said that they were

638
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: looking for, basically, they try to watch film with these

639
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: guys because they know that these players are prepared for

640
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: questions and they're prepared for tough questions sometimes, but they're

641
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: so prepared that it's almost like the answers are so

642
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: rehearsed that you kind of want to get under that

643
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: layer of rehearsal. And the way they try to do

644
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: it is to watch film and then they start to see, Okay,

645
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: is this guy taking accountability for maybe a mistake. Does

646
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: he understand the why of what he's doing? Within the

647
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: scheme in different things like that. But it's just a

648
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of things to go through. And like from a

649
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: standpoint of like I'm a reporter, and I would interviewing

650
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: for a job is tough enough, Like when interviews real

651
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: this job, it's tough enough. But thinking that, Okay, you're

652
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: going to go from this team to this team to

653
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: this team to this team and that team, and that

654
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: just seems like it must mess with your mind a little,

655
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: and you hope it does. That's the whole point of it. Yeah, yeah,

656
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean you're looking for body language. I mean, the

657
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: answer to the questions. I mean, sometimes they're real questions.

658
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes they just want to see how you react to

659
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: those questions. Sure, I've heard stories from coaches that said, man,

660
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: they have closed their books within thirty seconds. I'm hearing

661
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: a guy talk. Yeah, it's like, I don't like the

662
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: way this guy's talking. I don't like where I don't

663
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: like where his head is at. He thinks he's God's

664
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: gift or he thinks he can't play. You know, he

665
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: has a confidence issue. Close the book. I like this

666
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: guy versus this guy. Sure. Yeah, I mean and when

667
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: you're in those rooms, I mean, remember it's not like

668
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 1: a job. This is something you've dreamed about your entire life, right,

669
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're scared to death. You want to put

670
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: your best foot forward, and sometimes you do the exact

671
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: opposite because you're so nervous. Or you see somebody that

672
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: you grew up watching and he's interviewing you. You're like

673
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: me and Joe Green is talking to me, Oh my god,

674
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: what do I do? So you're speaking from experience? Oh yeah,

675
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I Mean one of the scariest things in

676
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: my life was I'm getting ready to run the forty

677
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: at the combine and Art Shell stood up and I'm

678
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: looking right at him, like that's Art Shell and he's

679
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: watching me. Right behind him was Al Davis with a

680
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: stop watch and I'm like, oh god, this is my

681
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: hometown football team. Yeah, I'm like, Al Davis is watching me.

682
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: I wish I could have called my mother right there,

683
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: but I'm getting ready to run a forty. It's weird, man,

684
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: It's just it's a weird deal. Mean, Joe Green actually

685
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: was at the vertical pit when we're doing the vertical lead. Yeah,

686
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: he was the guy that was measuring really yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

687
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: Mean Joe blanking green. Yeah, you can't say that one. Yeah.

688
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: And he looked at me and said, you ate a

689
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: little bit of nothing. Huh. He's huge and I'm not.

690
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: He's like, you hit a little bit of nothing. Huh.

691
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow than your vertical job though, I'm not even

692
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what else do

693
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: you remember from your combine? This is I think a

694
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: good This is a good insight into it because I

695
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 1: don't think people really understand quite what players go through.

696
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: And it's probably changed a little bit since you know,

697
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: you were going through this. Probably what a little bit

698
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: before I was stop it? Um, you know it's it's

699
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: guys that really really really prepared and took it seriously. Um.

700
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: They stood out like they played the game of the combine.

701
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: There were two guys in particular that we're getting ready

702
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: to weigh in. And when you're in college or when

703
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: you're playing football, at least from my perspective, as you

704
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: always wanted to weigh in light because if you're heavy,

705
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: you had to run, it's bad news and all that

706
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. So we're weighing in, so everybody wants

707
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: to weigh in close to their playing right, right, these

708
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: guys are down downing gallons of water in the hallway

709
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: because they want to weigh in heavy, right, and it's

710
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: all just water. So he weighs in at three twenty three,

711
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: twenty five, right. He loses that at night or during

712
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: the day, and the next night runs a four nine

713
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: forty and he's an offensive lineman. See what I'm saying.

714
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: They're playing the game. They're playing the game. So it's like, wow, okay,

715
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I wish I would have thought of that. That sort

716
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: of stuff went on. Um, you know, seeing other guys

717
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: that you played against that you didn't think were necessarily

718
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: rate football players. But then you're competing against these guys

719
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: in the same drills and you see, Wow, this guy's

720
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: a fantastic athlete. Yeah, a guy that you think, wow,

721
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: he's terrible. We ran the ball at him. Now at

722
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: the combine, they're talking about him like he's a first rounder. Yeah,

723
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: it's like, what's really that guy? That guy? And then

724
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: it happens and you start to see, wow, well, maybe

725
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: how they were using him in college wasn't to the

726
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: best of his ability. Here then you see him in

727
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: the league and he turns into a whole different guy.

728
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: So all this all happened at the combine. Just weird stuff.

729
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: But this is what's different between now and when I

730
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: was there. They didn't tell you how you did at

731
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: the combine. Really, No one told you your scores, no

732
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: one told you the reps. They counted on your bench press. Wow. Yeah,

733
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: you just do it and get up and move. That's it,

734
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: or to the next drill. Interesting. Yeah, now guys know,

735
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: and I think it's better that you do, know, so

736
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: you have a chance to compete and improve, right, yeah,

737
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: versus the opposite where you're always thinking was it good?

738
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: How fast was I? Was it a fast? Forty? I

739
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: thought I ran fast? But you never know. Now you're interesting, Well,

740
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: it sort of stands to reason that the way that

741
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: this is evolved now is because of media. And I

742
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: think the first time I think they really broadcasted the

743
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: combine was in two thousand and six, and I may

744
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: be wrong about that, but before it was always I

745
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: remember seeing it like an Instagram something of this, but

746
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: it was no. This is sacred, like the sanctity of

747
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: the combine is not something that we want media involved

748
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: in pretty much at all. I kind of agree, really, yeah,

749
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, athletically fine, if you want to make fun

750
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: of a guy like we did for us forty times,

751
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: so be it. I couldn't stand when we found out

752
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: what guys scored on the Wonder, like, oh, when that

753
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: stuff got out, that's that stuff that should remain in

754
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: the combine. Yes, I absolutely agree on that. That bothers me, Yeah,

755
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: because that's supposed to be confidential. And then it ends up,

756
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, you start talking about people like their intelligence

757
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: is based on this one thing where none of us

758
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: really have taken a Wonder look to us, like, well

759
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: I have not, you have, yes' say, but none of

760
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: us in media really have. And it's I think it's

761
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: really unfair to denigrate young men like that, or they

762
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: they equate a low score with being dumb. Yes, it

763
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: could be in the environment, man, you know what I mean,

764
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: you never know, or a high score with intelligence, yes, yeah,

765
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: it could be lucky, you never know. But just when

766
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: those things get out, that stuff bothers me. Okay, was

767
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: there anybody else who like you saw and they intimidated

768
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: you at William McGinnis, Yeah, yeah, William McGinnis. Um, it's

769
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: it just wasn't fair. Yeah he was, he was in

770
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: front of me. Yes, he was in front of me

771
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: when we were getting weighed and measured. Why because we're

772
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: in the same position. But we were all D line

773
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: at the time. Okay, yeah, we were all d d L.

774
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: So he was right in front of me. So he

775
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: goes up, what is he six six two forty five? Yeah,

776
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: he's still and he still looks like he could do that.

777
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: And you have to announce, you know, William McGinnis defensive end,

778
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, this in that USC blah blah blah blah,

779
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: and he's just you know, an Adonis Greek guy. That's

780
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: exactly the word that was in my mind that that

781
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: was about to use. I get on the scale next right,

782
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: DeMarco far defensive tackle, six sixty five. Thank you, thank you, Willie,

783
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. I why could that

784
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: be at the back of the line or something. Yeah, yeah,

785
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, but just stuff like that. I mean you

786
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: start to see the biggest, the strongest, the fastest guys. Yeah. Yeah,

787
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: that this game, the college game has to offer, and

788
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: they're all there. Yeah. So you're you're, you know, fifty

789
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: percent proud that you've made it, that you're there. You're

790
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: part of that group and the other fifty percent is

791
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: just going, Oh my god, look at these guys in here. Wow,

792
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: this is a tough, tough environment. Yeah, it starts there.

793
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: Competing for your job in the National Football League starts

794
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah. What about coaches or anybody else that

795
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you met and you're like, oh my gosh, uh no,

796
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean just those guys. Um, Me and Joe was

797
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: was pretty intimidating because he was huge, and I heard

798
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: some stories about him from guys that he coached in

799
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: Arizona when he turned off the light and challenged them

800
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: all to a fight. What. Yeah, the entire room. See,

801
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: I've been like me and Joe Green got up in

802
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: front of a professional defensive line group, not one guy group,

803
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: and said I'll just turn off the light and we

804
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: can go for it, and no one moved. That's why

805
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I mean, I'm still picking me

806
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: and Joe Green in that situation, right, Me and Joe

807
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: had to be in his fifties. Yeah, it sounds sounds

808
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: like he's still gonna kicked him. But to me, I

809
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not. Yeah. Yeah, so me and Joe,

810
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: I mean, just those guys there, um special. I think

811
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: that year Big Daddy Wilkinson was the star of the draft.

812
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: He was huge, he was a monster, he could run

813
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: all this sort of stuff. So you start to see

814
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: the trends of I guess professional football if you're really looking, Yeah,

815
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: what teams are looking for and which guys are coveted, Yes,

816
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: which body types are coveted. Yeah. Well it's funny. I

817
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: mean you say that that stuff about. You know, you

818
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: see different guys and you're like, oh my gosh, you

819
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: kind of get big eye because Monday morning quarterbacks Peter

820
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: King reported this, said that Josh Allen, quarterback out of Wyoming,

821
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: it's going through his formal interviews top six season. He's

822
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: in a room there and he with the Dolphins and

823
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: he says to Dan Marino, it's so nice to meet you,

824
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: mister Elway. Oh at least he gave Dan Marino a

825
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: couple of rings. Right. Oh, yeah, that's not where you

826
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 1: want to start. Probably, that's okay, off to beat stuff.

827
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: I remember that whole JaMarcus Russell thing. He can throw

828
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: throw the ball eighty yards from his knees. Yeah, you

829
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: do realize that's a sack. Ye, it's true. Just saying

830
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: but honestly though, I meant if you can throw it

831
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: from his knee. Absolutely, No, But I mean where I

832
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: was in the stadium when they were doing those drills, Like,

833
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: it's still impressive when you see this guy he just

834
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: drops back back and the thing goes seventy yards and yeah,

835
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: like it's it's impressive. But again, you're right, like, how

836
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: much does it matter on a play to play base.

837
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to disparage anybody, because this is a

838
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: tough game and it takes special people to play it.

839
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: But guys that run like four two forties, yeah, in

840
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: one direction, how is that really going to help you

841
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: on a football? That's true, right, unless you're running away

842
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: from somebody, right, But it's funny. We were talking to

843
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Aubrey Pleasant cornerbacks coach kind of about that the last

844
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: day of the combine and what he was saying, He's like,

845
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, there are different types of speed. They're like,

846
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're getting chased by a dog speed, Like, yeah,

847
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: you're just running speed, you know, and like you're you're

848
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: chasing after somebody's speeds. So sometimes and it's again, it's

849
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: about going back to what's on tape. What you see

850
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: at the forty when you're just running in a straight line.

851
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily representative of how it is that you're

852
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: going to be in a game situation. No, No, I

853
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever run forty yards in a straight

854
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: line in the game ever. Right, Yeah, there's always gonna

855
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: be somebody in the way. You're gonna be dodging somebody,

856
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: or you're gonna have to make a move. It's just

857
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: that's just the game. Same thing with a guy that

858
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: benches seven hundred pounds. Yeah, you know, I mean, have

859
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: you ever seen a guy bench seven hundred pounds? It's

860
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: probably well, it takes about this long to get that

861
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: thing up. Okay, Well, how's that going to help you

862
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: out there? Yeah, plays over by the time you get

863
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: that thing locked up. Just like a fun fact on

864
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: the forty yard dash, it started originally because that was

865
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: so coaches could measure. That's like they wanted to make

866
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: sure that their guys on special teams could get to

867
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: the return man in time for the punt to be

868
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: in the air and come down. True, forty yards was

869
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: the average difference of a punt. That's funny. He mentioned

870
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: that because like when you when I was a rookie

871
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: and when you're on special teams early in the preseason.

872
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: Most of the guys out there third and fourth quarter

873
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: are all rookies, right, yes, so we're doing kickoffs and

874
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: we're beating receivers down the field and our special team's

875
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: coach is pausing it. Okay, at the combine, you ran

876
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: a four to four, this guy is a five flat.

877
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: How is he ahead of you? Yeah, so it's got

878
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: nothing to do with speak, It's got everything to do

879
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: with want to Right, that's interesting. Yeah, how is he

880
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: two yards ahead of you? Right? That's impossible? Yeah, something

881
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: wrong with you? You got a bad hammy, No, so

882
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: you're just not running okay? All right, right, and that's

883
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: how you figure that out, right. Um. One guy though,

884
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: I definitely want to bring up from the combine is

885
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: just shakem Griffin. Yeah, because I think, yeah, he definitely

886
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: stole the show there and what he's doing and you know,

887
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: being able to fight through what he's been able to

888
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: fight the fight through. Yeah. Yeah. Has has there ever

889
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: been a guy like him in the national football I

890
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: cannot remember. I can't recall. I mean the thing that

891
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: that comes closest to me is Tom Dempsey in the

892
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: Club foot Yes, yeah, yes, that's that's what comes to mind.

893
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Um No, I can't remember. There might have been. I

894
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: can't remember a guy, nor can I. Yeah yeah, um

895
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: but in the let's just say this, in the era

896
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: of taking chances on guys, I think he's more than

897
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: proved that he can play. Yeah yeah, yeah with pads

898
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: and without. Yeah, like you said, he own the combine.

899
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: When you watch him on film, that dude can play.

900
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. When we saw him at the Senior Bowl, Wow, yeah,

901
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: he's bigger than what you think. Okay, yeah, he's a

902
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: guy like I wouldn't want to be lined up, Like

903
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: if he lines me up on a hit and I

904
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: don't see him coming, yeah, I mean that's that's that's

905
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: a big hit. Not only will it's gonna be a

906
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: big hit. He could knock you out and knock you cold.

907
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: He's that big. Well, the one thing about him and

908
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: that I have seen I wish I could remember who

909
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: wrote this on Twitter, but it was basically I think

910
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: it was the Bowl game, um UCF L in Auburn,

911
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: and basically they're like, okay, you can see everybody is

912
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: playing at one speed and you look at Griffin and

913
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: he's just playing like his hair is on fire, and

914
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: he's at a totally different speed in the fourth quarter.

915
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: And that's the kind of thing that you know, you

916
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: talk about guys with the high motor, guys that you

917
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: want around. If you're talking about a linebacker, that's what

918
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: you want. Yeah. I don't see how that is a detriment.

919
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: I don't It's he's he's playing about as well as

920
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: you can play. Yeah. Yeah, So I don't think his

921
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: deal is hurting him at all. So I hope it

922
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt him in the draft me too. Yeah, And

923
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: even if it does, like he seems like it's the

924
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: kind of person that he's gonna say, all right, you

925
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: know these these seems you you wanted to pass on me,

926
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to take me, you wanted to make sure

927
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: I felt this low. It's gonna be your friend. If

928
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: you don't draft him, then everyone should lie to him.

929
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: That's what I would do, because you don't want to

930
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: make him. You look, I really wanted to draft you,

931
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: and I got outvoted. Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't

932
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: want that guy with a vendetta. No, probably not. Either way,

933
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt. But if he's mad at you, it's

934
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: gonna be worse. Yeah, no, it's really true. Anything else

935
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: that stood out to you from the combine? No, just uh,

936
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: you know, watching guys perform. Um, I think because of

937
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Oh yeah, that whole interesting Yeah, that whole

938
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: interesting saga. And which quarterback is gonna go first? Yeah? Yeah,

939
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. I have no idea. Um. I

940
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: think they all have a chance to be pretty good

941
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: as long as they get to the right spot and

942
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: they have great coaches around them. Yes, I think Jared

943
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: Goff is a great example. Yes, But I don't mind

944
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: a guy with swagger. I don't either. Yeah, I don't

945
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: mind a guy with swagger at all, as as long

946
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: as it's directed in the right way exactly. And that's

947
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: that's the funny thing about Baker Mayfield. I mean people

948
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: want to compare him, which I sort of find a

949
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: little bit responsible, to Johnny Manziel. And you can look

950
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: at Johnny Manziel's history and you can say, look, there

951
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: is a clear difference of a probable substance abuse issue

952
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: that Manziel had that his father talked about in ESPN

953
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: the magazine. Did his father say he was what did

954
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: his father say about it? It was a crazy quote

955
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be over for him soon as right,

956
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: might not reach his ex birthday or something. Right, So like,

957
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: that's not the kind of thing you're hearing about Baker Mayfield.

958
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: What is driving Baker Mayfield is this ultra competitiveness. And

959
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: so when you see him make it inappropriate gesture on

960
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: the sideline like shitty, have done that? Absolutely not, you're

961
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You can. But I think it's a lot

962
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: easier to maybe say, okay, let's pull that back just

963
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: a second. Then then to be like, oh you have

964
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: you're so awful off the field that we can't deal

965
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: with you. Well, if that makes sense, And that incident

966
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: itself started, Yeah, pregame at that coin toss where Kansas

967
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: refused to shake his hand. Right, we have a difference

968
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: of opinion. Oh yeah, you can still be that guy

969
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: as long as you're still throwing fifty touchdowns. But I

970
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: don't mind that at all. Yeah, but you can't be

971
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: that guy going twenty and twenty. No you can't. Yeah,

972
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: you can't be that dude. Oh no, sit your butt down.

973
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: But if you're fifty touchdowns in six picks, yeah, and

974
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: we're in the playoffs, go ahead, yeah, well you can

975
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: put us a production equal Toller absolutely, yeah, yeah. If

976
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: you want to be the guy that drags us into

977
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: a street fight. As long as we're winning every single fight,

978
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm happy. So another funny story about that about Baker Mayfield,

979
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: I should say, So he gets on the plane. I

980
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: was on the same plane as like basically half the

981
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Rams brass from Los Angeles Indianapolis last Tuesday when we

982
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: were all going to the Common. So I'm talking like

983
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: less need, Sean mcvay's there, you know, who's who of whatever.

984
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: So we're already on the plane. I'm seated a few

985
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: rows behind of everybody. That's important because I just, you know,

986
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: when you're sleeping on the plane, like I don't know,

987
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: I just kind of didn't want them to be able

988
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: to see me. It's just it's a weird, good thing.

989
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, you see Baker Mayfield come

990
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: on the plane and like it is sensibly just looks

991
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: like a guy you know, like you don't know unless

992
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know, But I keep I was like

993
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: looking at it, and I was like, I recognize this

994
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: guy from Sunyeah. Right. And then one of our producers

995
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: who's also on the flight is like text, like the

996
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: Oklahoma QB is on the plane. I was like, oh

997
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: my god, that's why I know who that is. Okay,

998
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: But so we're on Southwest, so he's in Group C

999
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: apparently because he's getting on the plane is one of

1000
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: the last people on the plane. And then you got

1001
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: the Southwest people and the Southwest flight attendants like I

1002
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: understand that they're trying to be entertaining, but like, we

1003
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: don't need to make silly jokes the whole time. I

1004
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: don't know, I just don't need that from my flight attendants,

1005
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't just tell me what's going on, and

1006
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: like I don't need to hear like oh, we're going

1007
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: to this place today, Like it's just it's not that funny.

1008
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: Sorry anyway, So Baker Mayfield is getting on the plane

1009
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: on the Southwest torn but there's only middle seats left

1010
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: because this is like the end of group C, and

1011
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: so he comes almost toward me and there's no seats

1012
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: basically anywhere else in the flight atendants are like, you know,

1013
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: you guys all have to find seats like up there.

1014
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: So like Sean McVeagh is sitting there and I don't

1015
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: remember who he was sitting with but Sean McVay was

1016
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: at the windows seat, and then there was a middle seat,

1017
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: and then somebody else was in the aisle seat, and

1018
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: then Sean mvay is like, oh, bicker like hello, yeah,

1019
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: So then they sit next to each other for that

1020
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: tire compare notes like it. Yeah yeah, And so it

1021
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: was funny. I mean that came out. I saw that

1022
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: happening and I was like, Okay, that's funny. That's really interesting.

1023
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: And then Ian Rappaport tweets about it. You get Alvington

1024
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: Zalas VSPN writing a story about it. So I like it.

1025
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I can share it here since I went to sit

1026
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: in person, Coach, what do you like more about torturing

1027
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: defensive players? I love it when they just run off

1028
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: the field with their heads down. How about you? Yeah?

1029
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: I love hard counts and draws. Huh. Get some off

1030
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: sides every time? Yeah, I hate But I was talking

1031
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: about it the next day when he was after his

1032
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: press availability, and he was just like, you know, it's

1033
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: he likes. What he said was he likes to see

1034
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback with some swag too. He's like, I don't

1035
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: mind that at all, And it's you know, it was

1036
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: good to talk to him and whatnot and just sort of,

1037
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, chat for a little while. It's a four

1038
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: hour flight. I'm sure they were talking the entire time.

1039
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: You know, if I had my pick, i'd rather have

1040
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: a guy with swagger versus the guy that was the opposite. Yeah,

1041
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: well you're not sure if it's like how important is

1042
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: this to you? Oh my god. There were guys and

1043
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: I will not say their name, so don't ask, but

1044
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: there were guys that we played against the air and

1045
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 1: everyone that played with me knows who I'm talking about.

1046
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: But we could predict when he's going to go out

1047
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: of the game. Oh oh yeah, we can predict when

1048
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna get hurt. Yeah, and we were ninety percent right, yeah, right,

1049
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: we get here, we score here, he's gonna quit boom

1050
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: he's at every single year. Yeah, I'd rather have a

1051
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: guy with swagger that that refuses to come out versus

1052
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, for sure. And that's Um, it's an

1053
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: interesting sort of debate that you've got going on with

1054
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. And like, I'm not I wasn't sort of

1055
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: trying to hode say things about Josh Rosen because um,

1056
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: that's what some of the arguments for people are with

1057
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Rosen like, oh, I don't know how important football is

1058
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: to him, but I think it's a little bit ridiculous

1059
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: because I can play, right, you can pay, he can

1060
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: play be It seems like football is very important to him.

1061
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: And you know from everything that has come out about

1062
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: him being in these interviews and whatnot, that you have that.

1063
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: But then you have a guy like Michael Lombardi who

1064
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: I saw this in a tweet and I don't remember

1065
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: who I saw it in the tweet from, but Michael

1066
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: Lombardi said, you know, you got to figure out if

1067
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: he wants to be a football player, if he wants

1068
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: to be like a humanitarian or something. Wopped at the

1069
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: Eagle Super Bowl celebration parade too, I think he did. Okay, yeah,

1070
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: that's just his job, I guess, right. But then you

1071
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I saw JJ Watt quote retweeted that with like, this

1072
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. This is basically amounting to what somebody else

1073
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: was saying about shut up and dribble, you know, with

1074
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: the Lebron James thing. And JJ Watt I think is

1075
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: the perfect example of this because you know, I know

1076
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: he was injured this season, but at the same time

1077
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: JJ Watt as a guy when the Houston flood started

1078
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: happening and they had that hurricane there, he raises what

1079
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: thirty plus million dollars? Thirty seven million dollars I think

1080
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: might have been the final tally. How are you going

1081
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: to say that guys can't be football players and also

1082
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: use their platform to do good things. I hope that's

1083
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: not what mister Lombardi was referring to, But I do

1084
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: have a question about Rosen and what was his name?

1085
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember the guy. He was the punter, Chris

1086
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: clue Minnesota' punter. How that just kind of spiraled out

1087
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: of control and you could not get him to stop

1088
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: talking on social media about it? And what I mean

1089
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: is how important football is to you. There's some things

1090
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: that you just can't say and do as a football

1091
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: player because it upsets the locker room. Yes, I understand.

1092
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't think guys like Chris Kluey get that or

1093
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: care about it. He's gonna say it no matter what

1094
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: it does, even if it's the truth right, it's gonna

1095
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: blow up, It's going to do all this sort of stuff.

1096
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: So I would want to know if Josh Rosen understands

1097
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: the game or is he going to be a guy

1098
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: that says, hey, look I got to point out every

1099
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: bit of whatever I see, right, no matter what it

1100
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: does to the football team. Right, And I think you know,

1101
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: this is again a production equal tolerance thing. Right. Once

1102
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: you get to be established, once you lead your team

1103
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, once you throw twenty five touchdowns in

1104
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: a season, thirty touchdowns in a season, you're going to

1105
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: be able to use your platform to say different things,

1106
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: right that. You know, even though somebody's going to be

1107
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: like at homewick him when he says that, it's like, well,

1108
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: too bad. You know, this guy is a guy that

1109
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: can lead us to a super Bowl. Two guys that

1110
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: will tweet after a hard practice that was borderline illegal

1111
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: so says the CBA rules. One guy says, ooh, hard

1112
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: practice are like, you know, trying to get better, trying

1113
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: to get to the Lombardi. The other guy says, what

1114
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: we put pads on, went out there and hit. That sucks.

1115
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: Which guy you want on your team? Yes, right, right, yes, yes,

1116
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: And that's something that teams definitely have to way. So

1117
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: two non football pop culture things I sort of want

1118
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: to talk about before we get out of here. Okay, Hey,

1119
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: I saw Black Panther and it was nice. Yes, you

1120
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: see where I'm coming from? Yes, yes, absolutely, I see

1121
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: where you're coming Yes. Yeah, Okay, I'm like, I'm kind

1122
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: of team Michael B. Jordan A little bit boy. He

1123
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: played that role, didn't He was fantastic. Yeah. That was

1124
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: a great movie, great story, great everything. Yes. Yeah, and

1125
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: I think you know what people talk about with representation

1126
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: and all of those things, like that movie gives you

1127
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot to think about. Yes, And oh my god,

1128
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: my daughter almost she almost punched me because we watched

1129
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: The Walking Dead. Okay, we do. I don't watch that.

1130
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: You don't watch The Walking Dead, don't? Okay? Um? Good.

1131
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: The one of the actor actresses that's in Black Panther

1132
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: is in The Walking Dead, right, I've heard this and

1133
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't place her when I'm watching the movie, and

1134
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: she's like looking at me like, dad, really dad really? Yeah? Yeah?

1135
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: But just just an awesome, awesome flick. Yes yeah yeah, um,

1136
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: just well, I don't want to give it away. I mean,

1137
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: I feel like most people have seen him by now. Okay,

1138
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 1: skip fifteen seconds if you need to. Well, Who's ever Dead?

1139
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 1: In comics? Superman died. This is true. Yeah, no one's

1140
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: ever dead in comics. I mean all you saw was

1141
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: like the life sort of go out of him. Yes,

1142
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: And so I was in the end, like I was

1143
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: kind of hoping that, like, yeah, that these two guys

1144
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: are going to team up and that they're gonna see

1145
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: each other's priorities and you know whatever. But it's not

1146
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: the way it worked. Indad in Google search, Kmonger just

1147
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: go through his whole thing. Yeah, okay, Yeah, I mean

1148
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: I've only unfortunately, my familiarity with Black Panther is pretty

1149
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: much only the movie. Awesome. I can't wait for the sequel.

1150
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the new Avengers movie. I see.

1151
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: I really like these Marvel movies. Yeah, and this is like,

1152
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why these movies are so good, and

1153
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: they just apparently have a really good formula that the

1154
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: basic to. Just read an article about that someone read

1155
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: and I kind of agree with it. They said DC

1156
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: characters aren't cinematic. Maybe yeah, but even like I enjoyed

1157
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Wonder Woman, but I did not enjoy it as much

1158
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: as I enjoyed most Marvel films. And like, I remember

1159
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: talking to my mom about this because she was like,

1160
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like it was it was a woman

1161
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: she was kicking, but it was awesome. And I think

1162
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: one of the elements to it that just kind of

1163
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: bothered me was that there's so much SloMo and those

1164
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: DC movies. Yeah right, It's like every little action thing

1165
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: is just like yeah, yeah, you know, like just just

1166
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: get the punch off, like and that. What Marvel does,

1167
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: I think so well is that they like there are

1168
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: SloMo things in Marvel in the action scenes, but like

1169
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: you're still getting some action, you know, right. I've remembered

1170
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: the big deal like, uh, was it a man of

1171
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: Steel whatever? When Superman broke Zod's neck, that was a

1172
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: huge deal. O. The Superman doesn't kill that man doesn't

1173
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: use guns, that was It's a big deal. Marvel's a

1174
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: different deal. Yeah. I mean Wolverine's got clause he's cutting

1175
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: people's heads. Yeah yeah, I mean it's a different genre

1176
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: of comic. Then if I had a choice for my

1177
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: little girl, you're going to read DC. You're not reading Marvel.

1178
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: Marvel will give you nightmares. Marvel's for dad, DC for kids.

1179
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: Can you grow up? You can have these interesting Yeah?

1180
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: All right, while you're a kid, wonder woman. All right, yes,

1181
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: all right, so that's one thing too. Have you ever

1182
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: watched The Bachelor? No? Okay, so stop, no, I got

1183
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: I gotta get this off because I've never watched The

1184
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Bachelor until this year either, And like, as you feel

1185
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: fraid to give ahead fifteen seconds if? Yeah, exactly. But

1186
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: everybody in the studio is looking at me like I'm crazy,

1187
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: which is fine, that's fine. The Bachelor is not nearly

1188
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: the worst thing on television that I watched, trust me.

1189
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, so you've got this guy ari right,

1190
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: and so apparently he's been he was one of the

1191
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: contestants on The Bachelorette before. Okay, but this dude, like

1192
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: he's thirty six years old. All the time he's been

1193
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: on this show, he's talked about, Oh, I want to

1194
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: find I want to end this with the proposal. I

1195
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: want to end this with the proposal. I want to

1196
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: find somebody might spend the rest of my life with.

1197
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: He proposes to one woman at the end. Okay, they're

1198
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: together for like six weeks or so, and then he

1199
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: ends it. And then he goes to the contestant that

1200
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: he dumped and the other one like, what's wrong? With

1201
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: that because he did it on national television and just

1202
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: embarrasses this person. I don't know, I just felt the combine. Man.

1203
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: See ah, No, it's like to me, he did make

1204
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: the wrong choice. And it's funny because the entire time

1205
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: the season, I was like, Okay, he's going to pick

1206
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: Lauren for whatever reason, like he thinks Lauren is pretty

1207
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: I've watched the whole thing. Wow, so Becca is now

1208
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: going to be the bachelorette. But I just think that,

1209
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: like Ari is kind of a garbage person, and so

1210
00:58:54,080 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: many spoilers in this episode anybody, Yeah, I just I

1211
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: need to get that off because like, I don't know,

1212
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to treat people that way.

1213
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: Don't don't propose to somebody and then six weeks later

1214
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: say oops, I'm my bad and I'm going back with

1215
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: this other girl that I was something changed. No, did

1216
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: you realize something, Well, then you shouldn't have proposed in

1217
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: the first place. So you want him to realize I

1218
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: made a mistake. I asked the wrong person to marry me,

1219
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: and then marry that same person. We're assuming that the

1220
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: people on these shows are just like the most sane

1221
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: and logical thinking people you're on the Bachelor. Come on,

1222
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's true. I don't know, but

1223
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: it is not the whole point of the show. No,

1224
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: it is, but it just like I feel like, if

1225
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: you're thirty six years old, like you ought to have

1226
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: some kind of self awareness to say, I probably should

1227
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: not propose to this person if I'm not sure this

1228
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: fool He goes on there and he's like, fool did Yeah,

1229
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: but he's like, oh illion this morning, Like, what do

1230
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: you propose to somebody? Well, I don't know about that.

1231
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. It's not a coin flip.

1232
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: You're trying to spend the rest of your life with

1233
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: racist for the rex um, I mostly I watched you

1234
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: watch skating to see them fall. I did say, do

1235
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: you really watch The Bachelor to see them hook up

1236
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: or to see people get turned down and rejected? No.

1237
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: I watched it because there are people around me that

1238
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: were watching it, and I thought it would be a

1239
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: nice shared experience. I will never watch it again, though

1240
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I only watched the first week

1241
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: and a half of American Idol. Oh, because you like

1242
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: to see the people get booted off American Idol. Coming

1243
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: back this Sunday at just at eight o'clock. I'm in

1244
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: it for the bad auditions only on ABC. That's all

1245
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm in it for. I don't know that, but there's

1246
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: gotta be horrible auditions or I won't watch. Yeah, yeah,

1247
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: well we'll see. I mean, it's gonna be Katie Perry, Um,

1248
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: Lionel Richie and Luke Bryan now are the coach. Brian

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Speaker 1: Seacrest is still the hostless guy. Who's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: mean person? I don't know, somebody. They didn't really have

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Speaker 1: a mean guy in the last few seasons when it

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Speaker 1: was just going to tell you you stink. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Harry Conna Junior was kind of that guy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: be honest. But yeah, I don't know. I wish they

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Speaker 1: had been able to get Randy Pollins Simon again, like,

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Speaker 1: really get the band back together. Tell people, see, be

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Speaker 1: honest with players. You can't play, son, it's time to

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Speaker 1: get on with your life's work. Yes, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that that's honestly the best way to go about saying

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Speaker 1: I love the first week and a half. Be honest

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Speaker 1: with him, Yeah, you can't play. So before we get

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Speaker 1: out of here, last parting shot free agency starts next week.

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Speaker 1: One position that you would not mind seeing the rams

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Speaker 1: addressed through free what happens to Trumaine Johnson. We'll see

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Speaker 1: McVay and sneed both said we want Trumaine back. There's

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Speaker 1: a scenario that Trumaine could be back, so we will

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Speaker 1: see there under the radar. Terrific season, and how can

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Speaker 1: you be under the radar when you make seventeen million bucks?

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Speaker 1: Let me touchdowns? He allowed one. Yes, that's that's like

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Speaker 1: tied for tops in the league. That's a tremendous year.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I still want that guy in the room.

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Speaker 1: I want that guy back. Okay, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's going to happen, all right, Yeah, didn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the money. I don't know what the dollar

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Speaker 1: is going to be. Yes, But addressing anything free, See,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get a wide body. If you ask me,

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Speaker 1: you have to get a wide body. What I was

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Speaker 1: going to say, Yes, there's a guy like a Lenvall

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Speaker 1: Joseph h Yeah, a guy that just eats space. Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald is a pass rusher. He is terrific. He's tremendous.

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Speaker 1: You've got speed at linebacker. What you need now is

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Speaker 1: some mass yep front, you need somebody that just refuses

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Speaker 1: to move, yes, yeah, and then I think you'll fix

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Speaker 1: that leaky defense. M all right, No, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think that if the Rams could address nose tackle

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Speaker 1: this offseason, whether it is through the through free agency

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Speaker 1: or the draft like that, that is a big spot

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Speaker 1: that they can use to get better with that rude

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Speaker 1: and not a guy that you're trying to play there.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking a true nose yes, a guy that just

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Speaker 1: does that. Yes. Yeah, all right, well I think that'll

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Speaker 1: do it for us here inside the RAMS studio connected

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Speaker 1: by AT and T. Thank you to our producer, Matt

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Speaker 1: to DeMarco Farr. Thank you Elizabeth, our trainee for hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us in the studio already from The Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, stinks man, that's enough. Just cut it off.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time on Between the Horns.