Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Jettie and now he Armstrong and yet.
Speaker 3: Too many historic days live from Studio C see Senior,
Speaker 3: a dimly lit room deeper in the fowls of the
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty Communications Compound.
Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, kicking off a brand new week.
Speaker 1: At least for me, school starts. So the real year,
Speaker 1: the real serious part of the year, gets going today,
Speaker 1: Wolf and today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Speaker 1: Today's how does pop group Zelensky in the Euros.
Speaker 2: Performing in Washington, d C. Today?
Speaker 1: You know, there's never been a meeting like this ever
Speaker 1: in the history.
Speaker 2: Of the world.
Speaker 1: Claim that's a claim in a half, sir, there's anevit
Speaker 1: you to back that up there. There's never even close
Speaker 1: to been this level of world leaders meet at the
Speaker 1: Oval Office before. Now. Part of it is going back
Speaker 1: to World War II or whatever. Travel wasn't the same.
Speaker 1: But even like for the Gulf War or anything like that,
Speaker 1: they've never had a collection like you're gonna have at
Speaker 1: the White House today with the leaders of France and
Speaker 1: Germany and England and Italy and NATO's secretary generals and
Speaker 1: all that in Zelensky and Trump and Jade Vance is
Speaker 1: gonna be there. You don't have the cards. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it is an absolutely amazing show of diplomatic unity and
Speaker 1: by necessity from the point of view is Lensky in
Speaker 1: the Euros. I believe they just can't believe how putin
Speaker 1: friendly Trump emerged from the summit and are desperate to
Speaker 1: get his ear.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, I'm not as disgusted as
Speaker 2: I was Friday.
Speaker 1: On Friday, I was disgusted, but I've been talked down
Speaker 1: sometimes by like hosts on CNN then an MSNBC who
Speaker 1: had a much more charitable view of the way things
Speaker 1: turned out in many cases than I did.
Speaker 2: Interesting, but Trump truthed out.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of hours ago. In case you were asleep,
Speaker 1: President Zelenski, Ukraine can end the war with Russia immediately
Speaker 1: if he wants to, or he can continue to fight.
Speaker 1: Remember how it started. No getting back Obama given CRIMEA
Speaker 1: twelve years ago, and no going into NATO by Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Some things never changed. But so it sounds like we're
Speaker 1: going into this meeting day with at least Trump planning
Speaker 1: to present it as a Look, you want to end it,
Speaker 1: you can end it today. Surrender, just give in to
Speaker 1: pretty much everything Putin wants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give into the invader. Great, that's what fine advice.
Speaker 1: But Marco Rubio was on every talk show yesterday. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine a more exhausting day than he had, because
Speaker 1: of course he was hit from a confrontational point of
Speaker 1: view every host he was on of every show, but
Speaker 1: he was just captain real politic on every answer.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not saying it's palatable. I'm not saying it's moral.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying it is
Speaker 1: what it is. But Putin's not giving back the land.
Speaker 1: Nobody's willing to push him out. Here's where we are.
Speaker 1: That was his thing all day yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm anxious to hear more of his interviews that
Speaker 5: caught just a little bit over the weekend. But that's
Speaker 5: just I'd say, that's what you've been saying for a
Speaker 5: long time. When people talk about it's unfair, when people
Speaker 5: talk about it's unfair that Russia took a chunk of
Speaker 5: land from a weaker neighbor, and blah blah blah, and
Speaker 5: what's it saying about the world and all that sort
Speaker 5: of stuff, which I agree with one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Were you been saved for a long time, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna push him out. No, I mean no, Ukraine can't.
Speaker 1: And apparently the world's not willing to help them.
Speaker 2: So all right, that's where we are.
Speaker 1: The time honored words of the bully carry great wisdom.
Speaker 1: Those words are what are you going to do about it?
Speaker 1: Or if you're not willing to do enough about it,
Speaker 1: it will stand, or an even briefer version which my
Speaker 1: dad outlawed in our home. Well, actually he did an
Speaker 1: outlaw and i'm our home when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: He he made it clear that if somebody says this,
Speaker 1: you're asking for whatever happens.
Speaker 5: Well, and he he imposed sanctions on your oil production too,
Speaker 5: that's right, which I.
Speaker 1: Skirted by getting to sending oil to my younger brother,
Speaker 1: who been clever bastard. The classic, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the classic bully thing, Make me right, make me so,
Speaker 1: that's what's Putin's saying. Everybody's everybody's saying. But but they
Speaker 1: took the land in China, what will it look like?
Speaker 1: And it's not fair and nuts since world blah blah
Speaker 1: blah make me and nobody's willing to make him leave.
Speaker 1: I think that's where I got lost. Maybe on Friday, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't I didn't like the pageantry.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the riding and the beast and smiling
Speaker 1: and waven I didn't like any of that stuff because
Speaker 1: Putin might be the worst human being on planet Earth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I just don't like treating him like he's a
Speaker 1: nice guy. But I maybe lost sight of the fact
Speaker 1: that nobody's willing to actually fight him and push him out.
Speaker 1: So let's deal with reality.
Speaker 5: I think there are a number of nations that might
Speaker 5: be willing to go further in the sort of half measures.
Speaker 5: We've seen more armaments for Ukraine, more financing that sort
Speaker 5: of thing, but in terms of putting their own national
Speaker 5: security or prestige online, lending guys going in there and
Speaker 5: fighting by the Ukrainian sides, no, nobody's willing to go
Speaker 5: that far. So now on the stop gap end of it,
Speaker 5: it looks like all these nations are willing to put
Speaker 5: their money where their mouth is. There's lots of talk
Speaker 5: in the last twenty four hours of actual habit actually
Speaker 5: having European troops or NATO troops or guarantees or whatever.
Speaker 5: But as far as like going in there today and
Speaker 5: fighting to push putting out, nobody has stepped up to
Speaker 5: the plate on.
Speaker 1: That over three years.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: What do you think since I made a strong ish statement,
Speaker 1: what do you think of the pageantry and riding in
Speaker 1: the beast? Do you think that's a big deal or not?
Speaker 1: A doesn't think if it served a purpose, if it
Speaker 1: was part of a clever strategy, I would be fine
Speaker 1: with it. In spite of the whole You know, you've
Speaker 1: de isolated and isolated Pariyah and given him a platform
Speaker 1: and propaganda at home, because you know he got heaps
Speaker 1: of propaganda at home. If it served a greater purpose,
Speaker 1: I would think, Ah, that was clever. Lured him in
Speaker 1: with the pageantry and the flattery, then got him. Except
Speaker 1: the opposite happened. Trump was forceful, he was captain hard
Speaker 1: ass leading up to it. There's gonna be a ceasefire,
Speaker 1: there will be severe consequences. Gotta have a ceasefire to
Speaker 1: even talk about a bigger piece deal.
Speaker 5: Then walked away with no peace deal, no ceasefire, and
Speaker 5: no consequences, and singing the praises of his good buddy Vladimir.
Speaker 2: I thought the whole thing was disgusting.
Speaker 5: Well, could there be plot twists down the road that
Speaker 5: they make it seem like it was a better thought
Speaker 5: out strategy than it seems right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, Well, okay, that's a heck of a thing
Speaker 1: to say, Like, if I'm going to take the other side,
Speaker 1: I've been on your side since the moment I watched
Speaker 1: this thing on Friday, But if I was going to
Speaker 1: take the other side, it would be you're judging this
Speaker 1: based on the first two minutes of the movie. This
Speaker 1: is a stupid movie. Nobody's died, nobody's gotten married, nothing
Speaker 1: has happened. It just started, and to make any judgments
Speaker 1: about it would be ridiculous.
Speaker 2: That's what Marco Rubio was saying yesterday.
Speaker 1: And I think the strategy of making bold pronouncements with
Speaker 1: definite limitations and then pretending like they didn't happen twenty
Speaker 1: four hours later that they were never said.
Speaker 5: And I don't think that's a great way to lead frankly,
Speaker 5: but yeah, absolutely, things could end up in a much
Speaker 5: better place than they are right now.
Speaker 1: It is. It's interesting to me that everybody portrays it
Speaker 1: as Putin being the you know, the flatterer and getting
Speaker 1: what he wants. But when Trump does flattery, it's weakness.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, because because Putin's saying, uh, you know, this.
Speaker 2: War wouldn't ever happened if it weren't for you, and.
Speaker 1: All these different sorts of things, you know, sure, and
Speaker 1: talking about what a great guy Trump is and everything.
Speaker 1: That's scene as clever KGB strategy flattery to get what
Speaker 1: he wants. But when Trump does the same thing, more
Speaker 1: or less, rolling out the red carpet, treating h is
Speaker 1: eqal and equal to try to get what he wants,
Speaker 1: it's seen as weakness. I'm not sure that's fair.
Speaker 5: Counterpoint, Putin is one hundred percent not susceptible to that try.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm very I'm surprised that Trump thinks he is.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I agree with that presentation. I
Speaker 1: hated the red carpet like I like the B two
Speaker 1: bombers flying over.
Speaker 2: Everybody loved that.
Speaker 1: The second they shaked hands, shook hands, I mean, how
Speaker 1: did they get the timing on that? I mean, who
Speaker 1: is on the radio call and in Okay, it looks
Speaker 1: like they're gonna shake hands.
Speaker 2: In five four.
Speaker 1: I mean, because the moment they stand there, it's just
Speaker 1: sh the most powerful jet in the history of the
Speaker 1: world flies right over their heads with deafening noise, right
Speaker 1: right well, and the KGB agent looked up, smile and said,
Speaker 1: cool planes. Yeah, I agree with you, you said, I
Speaker 1: don't think that has any effect on him. I don't
Speaker 1: think that makes him Oh my god, that's right. They've
Speaker 1: got the best plane in the world or anything. I
Speaker 1: know he got planes. I know how many planes. I
Speaker 1: know what planes. As a friend of mine close to
Speaker 1: government said, I guess just actually unzipping their pants and
Speaker 1: measuring them would have been unseemly, so they went with them,
Speaker 1: flying the planes overhead. Thank god, we are are blurring
Speaker 1: out the scene on CNN, as it seems both men
Speaker 1: have unzipped their pants and now they're measuring their genitalia
Speaker 1: and what can only be seen as an unprecedented move.
Speaker 5: So, just as another flavor, a little salt in the cake,
Speaker 5: there's salt in a cake.
Speaker 2: It balances the sweet.
Speaker 1: There's sweet in like a rub you put on ribs.
Speaker 2: It's a balance. I just want to make this clear.
Speaker 5: I just read a long piece I was thinking about
Speaker 5: bringing it to the show. It's a little dry, a
Speaker 5: little longish about this girl who's working in the Equal
Speaker 5: Opportunity Commission. She was a Trump appointee first term and
Speaker 5: soon they're going to have a quorum, and she is
Speaker 5: enforcing civil rights law like it ought to be enforced.
Speaker 2: There's no racism. We don't allow racism in the country.
Speaker 1: There's no woke DEEI White people are bad. You know,
Speaker 1: quota's crap. We're going to force law. It's heroic. It
Speaker 1: might save the country, honest to God. And Trump is
Speaker 1: the engine behind it. He has brought the you know,
Speaker 1: the greatest cleaning crew in the world to try to
Speaker 1: clean all the woke out of America, which I have
Speaker 1: said is is the greatest threat against US internal self
Speaker 1: hatred and and martism.
Speaker 5: And Trump is leading the war against that. Love them
Speaker 5: for that, love them for that, often hate his foreign policy.
Speaker 5: I do not have Trump derangement syndrome. I have reality syndrome.
Speaker 5: R ass. It makes you unhappy all the time. Uh,
Speaker 5: but it's it's kind of grounding.
Speaker 1: Well if you if you're if you're pro the way
Speaker 1: Trump has handled this or not as bothered by it.
Speaker 1: As I was on Friday. Like I said, I think
Speaker 1: I've been talked down somewhat. Mark Alprin's got a very
Speaker 1: interesting piece today in his newsletter about how there is
Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome out there and attacking how this was
Speaker 1: handled over the weekend, and we can bring that to you.
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Speaker 1: Joe Getti. This it is Monday, August eighteenth, first week
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Speaker 5: Here we go at Mark.
Speaker 6: Now, it's really up to President Zolensky to get it done.
Speaker 6: And I would also say the European nations they have
Speaker 6: to get involved a little bit. But it's up to
Speaker 6: Presidents Olynsky. I think we are and if they'd like,
Speaker 6: I'll be at that next meeting. They're going to set
Speaker 6: up a meeting now between President Zelensky and President Putin
Speaker 6: and myself. I guess you know, I didn't even I
Speaker 6: didn't ask you about it. Not that I want to
Speaker 6: be there, but I want to make sure it gets done.
Speaker 6: And we have a pretty good chance of getting it done.
Speaker 1: The reporting is that the White House is hoping for
Speaker 1: a Putin Zelensky Trump meeting the three of them this week.
Speaker 2: This week Wow, Katie's headlines on the way next Armstrong
Speaker 2: and getting Wow, that's going to be some meeting at
Speaker 2: the White House today? Holy cow.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's zero chance there's not tremendous
Speaker 1: drama there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, guaranteed.
Speaker 1: Is this gonna be like it was last time around,
Speaker 1: where the cameras are there and we're.
Speaker 2: All watching them uncomfortably as this plays out?
Speaker 1: Low it live? Or is this gonna be behind the
Speaker 1: scenes and gotta believe that all the visitors are gonna say, now,
Speaker 1: let's let's it's got to be close to hers I hope.
Speaker 2: So I think that makes it better. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you imagine all the important negotiations and deals
Speaker 1: and arguments you've had in your life if there are
Speaker 1: cameras rolling plays terrible? All right, here's uh, let's figure
Speaker 1: out who's reporting what it's the lead story.
Speaker 2: It's Katie Green Katie. All right, you guys touched on this,
Speaker 2: but it is the biggest story.
Speaker 7: ABC News Trump says Zelenski can end Russia war quote,
Speaker 7: almost immediately before the White House meeting.
Speaker 1: See, I'm I'm trying to understand that narrative that Trump's
Speaker 1: got a game here. But has he ever said that
Speaker 1: sort of thing about Putin? Putin could end this war
Speaker 1: today if he stopped the fighting and pull that. Has
Speaker 1: he ever said that?
Speaker 2: Not that I remember? No.
Speaker 7: From The New York Times, Trump says he'll quote lead
Speaker 7: a movement to eliminate mail in ballots.
Speaker 1: I know he truthed that in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: I get so his energy level or the way his
Speaker 1: mind works or whatever.
Speaker 2: He's got one of the biggest meetings in.
Speaker 1: World history coming up today, and he's you know, truth
Speaker 1: and about other topics that he's really into. In fact,
Speaker 1: he truth like a couple hours ago.
Speaker 5: Just see the new flags that I put outside the
Speaker 5: interests look great? Wow, Wow, We'll never hear about the
Speaker 5: mail in ballot thing again.
Speaker 7: From Fox News. Sixty eight DC suspects arrested in single
Speaker 7: night as White House Trump's touts Trump's push to clean
Speaker 7: up the capital city.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool. From The Guardian, Being short is a curse.
Speaker 7: Men are paying thousands of dollars to get their legs
Speaker 7: broken and lengthened.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: Online dating, it's right there. You gotta be five eleven
Speaker 1: or more, six foot or more. You're a little felly.
Speaker 1: You gotta get your legs stretched. It's terrible that. So
Speaker 1: they actually they actually have a height thing, like you've
Speaker 1: list your height. I heard that, and then you can
Speaker 1: filter out so you don't even get a shot as
Speaker 1: like a guy who's five to nine. If it's somebody
Speaker 1: who wants somethy five to ten dollars.
Speaker 2: That's batal.
Speaker 5: You get a lot of lying. And then there's height
Speaker 5: inflation that women think. You know, I say six feet,
Speaker 5: I get a bunch of five nine guys.
Speaker 2: I better say six four. Pretty soon, it's.
Speaker 1: Only coming to be giants, biglock cole giants who can
Speaker 1: get a date.
Speaker 2: From the New York Post.
Speaker 7: Cambridge Dictionary ripped for adding nonsense slang term skibbety.
Speaker 2: To its database. English is no longer a language.
Speaker 1: If I've heard that word a thousand times in the
Speaker 1: last year, it probably ought to be in the dictionary.
Speaker 2: English is no longer a language.
Speaker 1: Is a little uh, little hand flappy, frantic there calumn down,
Speaker 1: everybody gibty toilet, give it a toilet.
Speaker 2: This one's also from the New York Post.
Speaker 7: Pregnancy robots could give birth to human children in revolutionary breakthrough.
Speaker 2: Oh God, that's not happening. I hope it's not happening.
Speaker 7: And finally, from the Babylon Bee, JB. Pritzker joins police
Speaker 7: force in hopes of getting a sandwich thrown at him.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is just plain of body shoing. Oh that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Who had the greatest defense of Donald Trump's weekend Mark
Speaker 1: Alpern in his newsletter, I think you'll find that pretty interesting,
Speaker 1: among other things.
Speaker 2: On the way stay with us, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 8: That meeting was a disaster. It was an embarrassment for
Speaker 8: the United States. It was a failure. Pud got everything
Speaker 8: he wanted. I mean, first of all, he wanted that
Speaker 8: photo op right. He wanted to be absolved of his
Speaker 8: war crimes in front of the world.
Speaker 2: He was invited to the United States.
Speaker 8: War criminals are not normally invited to the United States
Speaker 8: of America. He is intentionally murdering civilians, he's kidnapping children,
Speaker 8: and now he got to stand next to the President
Speaker 8: of the United States, legitimized in the view of the world.
Speaker 1: So Senator Chris Murphy, Democrat, just wanted to play a
Speaker 1: little bit of what the you know, the other side
Speaker 1: was saying about this all weekend long. A lot of
Speaker 1: it was a disaster, and then you go through the
Speaker 1: numbers of ways it was a disaster. I was pretty
Speaker 1: unhappy with the result on Friday. I've been talked down
Speaker 1: by you know, variety of pundits that I like over
Speaker 1: the weekend somewhat. But I wanted to read to you
Speaker 1: from Mark Alprin's newsletter today, which I thought was really interesting. First,
Speaker 1: he does a list of all the negative things various
Speaker 1: news outlets have said about the way things went on Friday,
Speaker 1: and then he says, here's the actual list, in the
Speaker 1: way you ought to look at it.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Putin shows no signs of losing the war, losing public
Speaker 1: opinion at home, or stopping on his own. He has
Speaker 1: leveraged that Trump can't just talk him out of.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 1: Trump is closely coordinating with Ukraine and Europe, whose leaders
Speaker 1: announced that they are joining Zelensky in DC on Monday.
Speaker 1: This was written the other day. Obviously, Trump can't make
Speaker 1: a unilateral deal without Europe and Ukraine on board, and
Speaker 1: he knows that. So any coming up with a deal
Speaker 1: while Europe and Zelensky aren't there, How is that ever
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Oh, that was never gonna happen, right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's they got hammered on that all weekend, every talk show.
Speaker 1: You got you accomplished nothing, You did not get a deal. Well,
Speaker 1: as Halprin's pointing out, how is he gonna make a
Speaker 1: deal without Zelensky there or the EU two say yeah,
Speaker 1: we agree. Anyhow, that's the mainstream media asking the wrong
Speaker 1: question or making the wrong accusation as usual.
Speaker 2: But on you go. That's fine for Trump.
Speaker 1: Can't suddenly change public or congressional opinion to be in
Speaker 1: favor of unlimited American taxpayer funding for a lendless war.
Speaker 1: There's just not enough backing to go that direction. As
Speaker 1: a number of people want a number of anyway, liberal
Speaker 1: media hosts want. Trump has now suggested the possibility of
Speaker 1: US security guarantees for Ukraine. The British say they will
Speaker 1: put boots on the ground. These are very very big
Speaker 1: developments from the we got nothing, Trump got everything. Camp
Speaker 1: I would say, possible British boots.
Speaker 5: On the ground in Ukraine that's not what Putin wants, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I just the whole thing's been so, I mean, one
Speaker 5: of my main objections to the way Trump approached it.
Speaker 5: Then what happened was that the entire description of what
Speaker 5: needed to happen, what ought to happen, the strategy just
Speaker 5: evaporated in thin air. Nothing that was said before matters now,
Speaker 5: and so nothing that was said subsequently matters now.
Speaker 2: Either I have no idea what to believe.
Speaker 1: You either agree with this one or not. Trump gave
Speaker 1: Putin a grand show in Alaska that was meaningless pomp
Speaker 1: and if making the Russia dictator feel like a big
Speaker 1: guy helps get a deal. It was the smartest and
Speaker 1: cheapest red carpet treatment ever, basically with no downside. He says.
Speaker 2: It won't but is there a downside?
Speaker 1: I didn't like the look of it, But is it
Speaker 1: actually you tried to flatter him it didn't work. Is
Speaker 1: there is that a no harm, no foul? Or is
Speaker 1: that a giant deal that he has got in the
Speaker 1: red cart treatment?
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: It gave him a pr coup at home, But I
Speaker 5: don't know how big a deal that is.
Speaker 2: He's a dictator. Forgetting rights exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, these you know it's funny, Well go ahead, I'll
Speaker 5: If ending the war were easy, Joe Biden would have
Speaker 5: done it.
Speaker 1: This is hard stuff, unlikely to happen in the first
Speaker 1: three hour act of the drama.
Speaker 5: That gets again, I have to disagree. Joe Biden didn't
Speaker 5: even do the easy stuff.
Speaker 2: That gets to my uh, the movie just started.
Speaker 1: So Trump can in a flash bring back sanctions or
Speaker 1: military aid to Ukraine if Putin won't budge sufficiently for
Speaker 1: Europe and Kiev. But emphasizing such steps publicly now is
Speaker 1: not conducive to getting an agreement. The where are the
Speaker 1: sanctions you promised? The where are the this? And that
Speaker 1: he could do that at three this afternoon. It's not
Speaker 1: off the table forever because it didn't happen on Friday.
Speaker 1: I think that's a ing point.
Speaker 2: Has did anybody put it direct? Did Hen? Did he
Speaker 2: put it directly to Trump?
Speaker 1: Why is your stance now so different than it was
Speaker 1: going into the meeting. I haven't heard that put It
Speaker 1: Is there something brand new that you're told? Well, I
Speaker 1: think I have an answer to that, But let me
Speaker 1: finish this list one more. Sadly, no one can expect
Speaker 1: Putin to make a deal to stop without giving him
Speaker 1: stuff in exchange, including Ukrainian land. That's getting to Marco
Speaker 1: Rubio's real politic all day long yesterday. You might not
Speaker 1: like it, it might not be moral, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: but here's where we are. And Helpin wrote, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the fact that the news coverage and commentary
Speaker 1: is almost entirely informed by the by the first list
Speaker 1: is because of hatred for Trump or something else. But
Speaker 1: this is madness to look at the way the mainstream
Speaker 1: media is looking at it. According to Mark Alpern's non
Speaker 1: partisan opinion on it, what was the thing you brought up?
Speaker 5: I said, I had an answer to has anybody has
Speaker 5: Trump gotten a new piece of information or something like that?
Speaker 5: Because I suspect Halpern is working to preserve his access
Speaker 5: to Trump. Honestly, those are He was responding to the
Speaker 5: media there, which is fair enough, but he's not responding
Speaker 5: to Trump.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 5: I'm judging it by Trump's own descriptions and only his descriptions,
Speaker 5: and I can't figure out what the hell happened.
Speaker 1: I think, based on things Rubio said and some of
Speaker 1: the reporting that's out there, that they got in the room,
Speaker 1: and it became very clear, very fast that Putin wasn't
Speaker 1: budging on a couple of things that Trump maybe foolishly
Speaker 1: thought he would budge on fair enough. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: you can knock Trump for going in there thinking there
Speaker 1: was ever a chance that Putin was going to give
Speaker 1: on some of these things. But I think he went
Speaker 1: in there thinking, at least, you know, we've got this
Speaker 1: to discuss, and and Putin made it clear, Na, this
Speaker 1: is not even, We're not even, We're not even. I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna talk about.
Speaker 5: This, right, I'll fight till the end of time before
Speaker 5: I let that happen, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, say, one thing, if I was going to give
Speaker 1: Trump any some benefit of the doubt on this was
Speaker 1: having him having done a lot of deals in his life,
Speaker 1: is sometimes you realize, I mean, the whole you don't
Speaker 1: have the cards. Trump was probably standing there thinking, we
Speaker 1: don't have the cards. And unless we're willing to go
Speaker 1: to war for this and put boots on the ground
Speaker 1: and actually fight, he says he's not giving up the land,
Speaker 1: who's gonna push him out of there?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And honestly, the fact that nothing happened is not
Speaker 5: that significant because look how quickly the follow up me
Speaker 5: came about. So now he's gonna meet with the Euros
Speaker 5: and uh and Zelensky and try to figure out, all right,
Speaker 5: what are you willing to do? What are we all
Speaker 5: willing to do to push Putin off? And then a
Speaker 5: praise whether it's it's adequate to the task or not. Again,
Speaker 5: I'm keeping an open mind because often the route to the.
Speaker 1: Best possible outcome is rocky and confusing, and and maybe
Speaker 1: people say things and go back on them later, but
Speaker 1: that's the nature of things.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 5: I don't have Trump derangement syndrome. I just was judging
Speaker 5: the thing on Trump's own terms, and it was very,
Speaker 5: very different than he described.
Speaker 2: But here we go next step.
Speaker 1: I personally thought the red carpet thing, writing writing in
Speaker 1: the beast, smiling, waving thing was disgusting. I mean like disgusting.
Speaker 1: The guy's bombing children. What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't. I just don't get that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 5: That bothered me less than the little speech he gave afterward,
Speaker 5: the ad lib speech about how well do they get along?
Speaker 5: And you know how what a good guy is and
Speaker 5: an important power rush is it's like, what the hell?
Speaker 5: But again, maybe if that's the sort of flattery that
Speaker 5: comes in the midst of negotiation, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And not to lean on this one newsletter too much,
Speaker 1: which I probably am. Mark Alprin did top ten oval
Speaker 1: office disasters in US history, and Trump Zelensky was in there.
Speaker 1: But he also had a bunch of them that I'd
Speaker 1: never heard of, Churchill and Truman, Kennedy and Khrushchev. And
Speaker 1: I think his point was these things happened that at
Speaker 1: the time everybody thought was the biggest deal in the world.
Speaker 1: But you've never even heard of them, have you, Because
Speaker 1: they ultimately didn't mean that much. The little blow up Today,
Speaker 1: I think we'll have a lot more clarity by the
Speaker 1: end of the day. I did want to throw this in.
Speaker 1: Do I have time to throw this in?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think here I've said this before. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever explained properly. I'm a big Henry Kissinger fan,
Speaker 1: and he was the giant of foreign diplomacy like my
Speaker 1: entire lifetime. Up until his death a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: every president would call him up when they were in
Speaker 1: a sticky situation, whether it was Clinton and Obama or
Speaker 1: the Bushes or whoever they would call. Henry Kissinger he
Speaker 1: ran the foreign policy for the Nixon administration, and he
Speaker 1: one time talked about the problem with the media and
Speaker 1: leaks and all that sort of stuff and how that
Speaker 1: gets in the way of diplomacy and why you've either
Speaker 1: got to keep stuff secret or try to ignore this.
Speaker 1: And he said, these are relationships, and it's just like
Speaker 1: if you had a love relationship but you had all
Speaker 1: the leaks and media commentary on the side disrupting it.
Speaker 1: How would two people ever come together in love if
Speaker 1: you had You know, you got a guy and a
Speaker 1: girl that are flirting with each other. She's kind of
Speaker 1: hoping he asked her out or whatever, and he got
Speaker 1: somebody yelling, do.
Speaker 4: You realize he's not over his last girlfriend? You have
Speaker 4: you heard he's not over his last girlfriend? Have you
Speaker 4: heard reports that she had an abortion in high school?
Speaker 4: Is that true or not? You know, just stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would never come together. It would be impossible.
Speaker 1: And that very same dynamic can happen with this stuff.
Speaker 5: I agree, well, said doctor Kissinger. And so that's.
Speaker 1: Why sometimes they don't you don't Rubio saying yesterday you
Speaker 1: don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna comment on that. Right. In fact, we
Speaker 1: got a clip of that. I think it was a
Speaker 1: he was on every show yesterday. I think it was
Speaker 1: a person on Face the Nation saying, but you haven't
Speaker 1: explained anything that's been gotten. He said, no, one, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to explain anything that has happened yet because
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of negotiations.
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Speaker 1: I was I followed it all on Friday. I was
Speaker 1: disgusted by the end of the day, Like I said,
Speaker 1: I've been talked down from my disgust somewhat. We had
Speaker 1: an agent who was a New York guy who kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of the way Trump deals, and we
Speaker 1: were often flustered, flummoxed, angry, like trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what his bargaining situation was. It was just like it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was so opaque trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what was going on what the strategy was, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it turns out to be completely ineffective and we
Speaker 1: fired him. I don't know if that was it, but
Speaker 1: but in terms of the tactic, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's a New York thing or what.
Speaker 5: We're gonna keep him off balance. It's to surprise him.
Speaker 5: We're gonna confuse them, We're gonna anger.
Speaker 1: Them and then get no results.
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna write. Right, So good story, though. Okay,
Speaker 2: we've got a mail bag coming up with a bunch
Speaker 2: of other stuff.
Speaker 1: Stay here, Like somebody tweeted this at us. We have
Speaker 1: no information whatsoever to go off of. So why are
Speaker 1: you so disappointed? I guess that was Mark Alpern's point.
Speaker 1: We have very little information at this point. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot more information today, there's no doubt. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: fair enough. Okay, Uh, here's your freedom loving quote of
Speaker 1: the day. You know what's funny is uh I decided
Speaker 1: to to chase down a quote from the infamous Michelle Foucaut,
Speaker 1: the French philosopher who brought us critical theory.
Speaker 2: Boy, I did a.
Speaker 1: Deep dive on him. The other day. Gay gentlemen died
Speaker 1: of ade, super rich, grew up, hated his parents.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the typical revolutionary.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is the guy at the heart of he
Speaker 1: is thee is the George Washington of DEI and critical
Speaker 1: theory and radical gender theory and queer theory and the
Speaker 1: rest of it. And you know, I was gonna come
Speaker 1: up with some anti.
Speaker 5: Freedom loving quotes of the day from this joker, because
Speaker 5: I want to let everybody. I want everybody to know
Speaker 5: who he is and that he's at the heart of
Speaker 5: all this crap.
Speaker 1: But it's so incoherent. That's what everybody says, is that
Speaker 1: his most famous and incoherent. His most famous books are
Speaker 1: impossible to read. Why why are all the like the
Speaker 1: Marxist book and stuff? Why are they also impossible to read?
Speaker 1: And then people latch onto mind comp's impossible to read? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he's yeah, terrible. Uh so, But I went with
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 5: Penal law was not created by the common people, nor
Speaker 5: by the peasantry, nor by the proletariat, but entirely by
Speaker 5: the bourgeoisie as an important tactical weapon in this system
Speaker 5: of divisions which they wish to introduce whatever whatever, jackass, Yeah,
Speaker 5: please don't steal from me.
Speaker 1: Yes, the Bourgeoise.
Speaker 2: He came up with.
Speaker 1: That because simple villagers loved being stolen from, they loved
Speaker 1: seeing their women raped, they liked being murdered. It's a
Speaker 1: good point, Michelle, thanks for that great philosophy. God, you'd
Speaker 1: have to be a pudding head at eighteen year old
Speaker 1: to fall for this bull less holy cow. More on
Speaker 1: that later, pass its Ellen all that had made a
Speaker 1: pudding mailbag.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we got a ton of really.
Speaker 1: Critical emails about Trump in Alaska from our beloved folks.
Speaker 2: Why didn't he get up and leave after two minutes?
Speaker 2: Side show Bob writes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of my favorite pundits like he should have
Speaker 1: even if he sat down and had the meeting, he
Speaker 1: should have left immediately thereafter, not stood up there with
Speaker 1: Putin and let him ramble on with his bull less Yeah.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play some Marco for you next hour. But
Speaker 1: let's see Phil right as appalled at how pathetic Marco's
Speaker 1: excuses for the fiasco in Alaska came across. He thought
Speaker 1: his body language expressed conflict. He sounded completely different from
Speaker 1: his speaking style as a senator. I didn't take it
Speaker 1: sounded whiny and pathetic. You did foreign policy then and
Speaker 1: now walks off and carry a big stick versus boast
Speaker 1: loudly and swung wildly, harming allies and emboldening adversaries.
Speaker 2: We'll have to see. That's very critical.
Speaker 5: Let's see, Rich says, was he waving a piece of
Speaker 5: paper declaring piece for our time?
Speaker 1: Briefly, it could be talk loudly and hope it works
Speaker 1: because you have no cards.
Speaker 2: It could be no stick, Well, no stick you're willing
Speaker 2: to use.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how about the tens of thousands of stolen Ukrainian children.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then Marina from San Diego wants me to do
Speaker 5: my Russian accent with Putin making excuses.
Speaker 2: That sounds amusing. Maybe later.
Speaker 1: More importantly, Tom writes, gents and lady, I saw a
Speaker 1: cyber truck with a goat in a custom case in
Speaker 1: the bed the other day. I thought that has to
Speaker 1: be Jack Armstrong. First I thought that has to be
Speaker 1: Joe Getty. Then I remember people always get you guys
Speaker 1: mixed up.
Speaker 5: That's correct, it's Jack who had that truck, even if
Speaker 5: it wasn't you Jack. I get a huge kick out
Speaker 5: of seeing a goat in the bed of US cyber truck. Confirmed,
Speaker 5: and I doesn't matter, have a great week. I do
Speaker 5: own a cyber truck and have many goats. I'm a
Speaker 5: goat adjacent to yes.
Speaker 2: And then a reminder of how moronic the media is.
Speaker 2: And we only need to take a moment to contemplate this.
Speaker 1: It's a headline about Jasmine Crocket, the mouthy phony no no, yeah,
Speaker 1: Houston congress lady who gets into drawing matches with.
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green, et cetera, et cetera and everyone.
Speaker 5: It's a headline about a disagreement she has with the
Speaker 5: Texas governor. But it's immaterial because the photo she's talking
Speaker 5: to a crowd and waving to them, and she's giving
Speaker 5: a freaking Nazi salute. I mean it is in a
Speaker 5: still frame. I mean, like a good stiff le Hitler.
Speaker 1: Salute Nazi Germany.
Speaker 5: Do you remember when we were actually asked to take
Speaker 5: that seriously? When Elon Musk waved to a crowd and
Speaker 5: somebody took a pick and it can you imagine we
Speaker 5: were asked to take that seriously even though practically every
Speaker 5: politician that's ever waved to a crowd, you know, could
Speaker 5: be caught like that. So cannot have enough contempt for
Speaker 5: those people in the mainstream media interested in your thoughts
Speaker 5: on Friday, where you are on that We got a lot.
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