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<v Speaker 2>Dugger when from Dartmouth, I believe. Do we have schedule

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<v Speaker 2>this week Professor Krugman. We have the Laureate Krugman with

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<v Speaker 2>But today we said stay on the markets and you

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<v Speaker 2>start strong with Damian Sasso or.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just about the fixings. You know, the PBOC just

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<v Speaker 3>said China will set its currency manages. It's currency tom as.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a two percent band around the China

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<v Speaker 3>U one that it can move each and every day

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<v Speaker 3>before the government basically closes it down. Search breakers go up,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know what they do is they set

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<v Speaker 3>that fixing every day. China you want is trading at

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<v Speaker 3>seven thirty one, seven thirty two. Now, well they just

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<v Speaker 3>crossed that red line on seven twenty. If they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to start allowing the fixings to gradually move higher, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that tells me everything I need to know about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>currency rep.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say enough how important it was. I want

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<v Speaker 2>this up. I said, that's got to be our first quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I was stopped all weekend with you know, the basic

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen to that? And A I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a market call because I know they're worthless. We're

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<v Speaker 2>all it's part of the you know, the framework of

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<v Speaker 2>Wall Street in that. But it's not my job to

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<v Speaker 2>have a market call. What I will say is the

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<v Speaker 2>common feature of every crisis. And when I started studying this, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>to put things in perspective, one of the four great

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<v Speaker 2>currencies of the world was the Lebanese pound. Good morning

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<v Speaker 2>nasum to leeb the Lebanese pound and the answers things

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<v Speaker 2>change and the way they change is you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the lipmus paper of the system, which is the currency market,

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<v Speaker 2>and mister Sassur there of Bloomberg Intelligence doing all our

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<v Speaker 2>em work, went right to the heart of it, which

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<v Speaker 2>is watch the ren minbi, the Chinese yuan, and to

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<v Speaker 2>go from seven up to seven point three zero a

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<v Speaker 2>weaker yuan and depreciate and to go out further is

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<v Speaker 2>not unimaginable. Given this trauma. Could the yuan get back

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<v Speaker 2>to where it was? And I believe two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen or two thousand and five, I honestly can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>back when it was unpegged a decade or or so ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Damien Sasar, he'll be with us. You're more through the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Many people helping us out today with a cross section

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<v Speaker 2>of opinions. I tried to stay away from the Fed

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<v Speaker 2>parlor game. Guess what, it doesn't matter right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think it's germane to the debate. Here is

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<v Speaker 2>from RBC Capital Markets on the equity market collapse, Laurie Calvcina.

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<v Speaker 4>The reality is is that you know when I highlight

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<v Speaker 4>this small cap chart and that we're at thirteen times,

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<v Speaker 4>or at least we were as a Thursday. People say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to adjust the earnings, and I say, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to adjust the earnings. That's the separate thing though,

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at you know, sort of historically my

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<v Speaker 4>forward pe data eleven to thirteen times is where small

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<v Speaker 4>caps tend to bottom out even when the E is

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<v Speaker 4>too high. And people just can't mentally wrap their heads

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<v Speaker 4>around that. But it is something important you have to

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<v Speaker 4>keep in mind because it's one of those things again

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<v Speaker 4>that you have to see. It's not going to peg

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<v Speaker 4>a bottom on its own, but it's still a signal

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<v Speaker 4>even though there's some problems with the need. Now. I

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<v Speaker 4>do think with earnings, we have to get the numbers

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<v Speaker 4>down before anybody is going to have faith to come

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<v Speaker 4>in and buy here. Forty percent of the revisions and

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<v Speaker 4>the wrote the Russell and S ANDP are still to

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<v Speaker 4>the upside. Nobody's cutting numbers because they don't you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know a lot of different reasons, but nobody's

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<v Speaker 4>been cutting the number.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really important insight. Lori kelvissena IBC Capital Markets.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Michael Purvis was great on this and a

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<v Speaker 2>number of others. Keith learning from truists was wonderful. This

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<v Speaker 2>is all happening so fast. Let me explain this now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's incredibly important. The financial media talks percent change.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the indices. The SPX is the most mathematically integral indicy.

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<v Speaker 2>We use the Dow because America is riveted to it

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<v Speaker 2>from our past. It's not as good an index. I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, and we look at percent change. A correction

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<v Speaker 2>is in the vicinity of ten percent down. A bear

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<v Speaker 2>market is eighteen percent down, and the kind of wash

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<v Speaker 2>out you get in an sequential crisis is down thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent or something like that. The pros don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>They do a thing called standard deviations. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go into it on a podcast, but the answer

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<v Speaker 2>is we are at a point of stress in standard

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<v Speaker 2>deviations down three point six, three point eight percent. I

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<v Speaker 2>know those are just numbers, and where we get stressful

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<v Speaker 2>is down four standard deviations. We're not there yet. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you when we get there. On your commute across

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