Speaker 1: All right, welcome episode thirty to the Bobby Cast, our
Speaker 1: first one after the break. By the way, Mike d
Speaker 1: welcome back right yet before right there? You good buddy,
Speaker 1: I'm good. Good to see you again. I see every day. Uh.
Speaker 1: Today we have brand In, the late singer of Atlanco here. Hey, Brandon,
Speaker 1: what is up? Man? You've been adjusting your chair. The
Speaker 1: difference in this and any other interview that you'll ever
Speaker 1: do in your whole life. These are the most comfortable chairs.
Speaker 1: They are. You just sit back and relax. Wait about
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen minutes you'll start crying. You won't even notice it.
Speaker 1: I know that's the problem. I feel like I'm too comfortable.
Speaker 1: All about getting comfortable. I'm gonna watch a movie, but
Speaker 1: have a drink of this. Don't look at what I
Speaker 1: dropped inside of it. A Brandon's here from Lanco. And
Speaker 1: before we talk about stuff, I want to play a
Speaker 1: little bit of Lanko because you guys are considered brand
Speaker 1: new artists. So if you haven't heard in the Atlanta's music,
Speaker 1: there's a little long lived tonight, crazy baby baby, don't
Speaker 1: be scared when you got me. When you set each
Speaker 1: other tree, there's a little song called American Love Story
Speaker 1: The River you want to be my wife. We didn't
Speaker 1: know any better. I didn't have coomba. That was what
Speaker 1: you wanted, you wanted and we can meet him Twain,
Speaker 1: We're gonna be the greatest love story is t sing.
Speaker 1: That's your best song, by the way, And we know
Speaker 1: each other a bit a lot of people. I've never
Speaker 1: met him before. I'm just like, hey, you know, come
Speaker 1: in out of your story. I guess we've met a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah, briefly, yeah, briefly, but but we've
Speaker 1: met and you guys are you guys are pretty young? Huh?
Speaker 1: We are young? Yeah, we uh are each we are thirteen, Um,
Speaker 1: we're we're all twenties. The we range from twenty four
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, So meeting aid somewhere mid twenties. I guess.
Speaker 1: So Lanco is a combination of a couple of words, right,
Speaker 1: isn't it, Like yeah, it's a lancastering company. Yeah. From
Speaker 1: what I remember, somebody worked there and that's where you
Speaker 1: guys like practiced and got together. Yeah. Well, why so
Speaker 1: the band name comes from my name is Brandon Lancaster,
Speaker 1: So I uh so, you know that's not whouse. There
Speaker 1: is a warehouse in the story, but it's not not Lancaster.
Speaker 1: Um my name is brand Lancaster. So you know, early
Speaker 1: days in Nashville and uh, well, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: how far to go back. I met Tripp, who's the
Speaker 1: drummer in Lanco and he worked at a carpet warehouse,
Speaker 1: and uh I met him in Chattanooga, Tennessee. I was
Speaker 1: going to school out there, and we both played a
Speaker 1: music festival there in different bands. And I'm from Nashville. Originally,
Speaker 1: I grew up outside of Nashville that you know here
Speaker 1: that is oh, I know, which is fine. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that was rare until because when you grow up here,
Speaker 1: everyone's from here. I grew up in Smyrna South in Nashville,
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, we you grew up here, everyone's from here.
Speaker 1: And then I went to school and when I came back,
Speaker 1: you know, started making new friends and meeting people, and
Speaker 1: everyone would ask where I was from. And that question
Speaker 1: was so strange to me because I was like, I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: where are you from? And they're always good from here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, where are you from? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: More people aren't from here? Oh, essentially in the business
Speaker 1: that we're in. Absolutely. Yeah, more like aren't from from
Speaker 1: I know, I've met very few people that are from here. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but I went to school in Chattanooga. So
Speaker 1: when I moved back, Tripp was moving to Nashville the
Speaker 1: same week I was. So, you know, I I've been
Speaker 1: writing songs, I mean virtually in my whole life. And
Speaker 1: uh and and so I told me, I'll have the
Speaker 1: slew of songs and I want to put a band together,
Speaker 1: and kind of gave me the idea and and so
Speaker 1: we put it to get you know, my name is
Speaker 1: Brenda Lancaster. So it started as you know, Lancaster and
Speaker 1: and something, and we thought we'd build a band route around.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about that. Let me stop you
Speaker 1: for a second, because I always thought, you know, all
Speaker 1: the guys in Dave Matthews band, m Dave Matthews band,
Speaker 1: like Dave Matthews, his band bon Jovi, John bon Jovi,
Speaker 1: nobody else's name Van Halen. Yeah, I got a couple
Speaker 1: of Van Hanlon. You know what, how come is it?
Speaker 1: Because you're the one that came up with the idea
Speaker 1: and he was just cool with it because the last
Speaker 1: name is not company, is it. Yeah, Uh, it actually is. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. Um Yeah, we were duos Lancaskop. No. It
Speaker 1: was I think the way it started, you know, at first,
Speaker 1: like he was in a different band and I had
Speaker 1: written a bunch of songs. It was the thing where
Speaker 1: I could have done a solo project if I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I could have just you know, made it mine and
Speaker 1: and hired guys out and you know, kind of had
Speaker 1: a revolving door, which is what happened Nashville lot and
Speaker 1: early on that's kind of what I thought might happen,
Speaker 1: you know, because I had these songs, and you just
Speaker 1: don't know how long you're gonna keep a guitar player
Speaker 1: or a bass player because everyone's working and has to
Speaker 1: you know, kind of go where the money is sometimes.
Speaker 1: But early on it was, you know, this thing where
Speaker 1: I wrote these songs, but I want to build a
Speaker 1: band around it. I did look at Tom Petty and
Speaker 1: the Heartbreakers, and I did look at at Dave Matthews band,
Speaker 1: where there is a primary songwriter and there's this guy
Speaker 1: that came with the songs, but there's a band around
Speaker 1: it that makes it unique and has its own sound.
Speaker 1: And when you keep those same guys together, like even
Speaker 1: like a Zach Brown band, you know what, it has
Speaker 1: a unique sound because they've had time. The same guys
Speaker 1: have had time to craft that sound and and and
Speaker 1: build what they're doing, and and also go through hard
Speaker 1: time together, go through great times together, um and and
Speaker 1: so early on, I didn't know what it would look like,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know if it would be a
Speaker 1: band band or if it would be this Zach Brown
Speaker 1: band or Dave Matthews band, and guys might come in
Speaker 1: and come out, and you keep hiring and you keep
Speaker 1: adding people. I didn't know at all what it would
Speaker 1: look like. I just knew we had Lancaster and then
Speaker 1: if Tripp wanted to be in this band, we could
Speaker 1: have a company and start building it. And that was
Speaker 1: also where the name change kind of came though, was
Speaker 1: when we shortened it. It was because it was the
Speaker 1: same guys for for a long time, and you know,
Speaker 1: we had gone a year and then we had just
Speaker 1: all become friends. We're like, all right, this is a band,
Speaker 1: so but people know this is Lancastering Company. But let's
Speaker 1: shorten it to more of a band name kind of
Speaker 1: sound selfless thing, because Landco does not sound like random
Speaker 1: like guys. It doesn't so selfless thing to make that
Speaker 1: move to go Lanco, because if it were me, I'd
Speaker 1: have been like, we're gonna call ourselves brand Caster, We're
Speaker 1: gonna change the name to brand cater soever. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's uh that you two together. Well what
Speaker 1: the other two guys come from? Though? So there it's
Speaker 1: a five piece altogether. So I so Trip and I
Speaker 1: were jamming and which one of you guys do I
Speaker 1: not know? Then? You I've never met all five of
Speaker 1: you at once. I don't think it's the one that
Speaker 1: you don't like, because that's the one I haven't met.
Speaker 1: Um who probably I mean probably Tripped, like even though
Speaker 1: you've met him at now, I'm kidding Tripping. Our best
Speaker 1: friends and obviously have the most history together. But we yeah,
Speaker 1: there's five us all together. And we had you know,
Speaker 1: Trip myself, and we literally would just sit and he
Speaker 1: played drums and I played guitar, and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: we need more instruments, um, and so we Uh. I
Speaker 1: met this guy's songwriting competition that went to MTSU and
Speaker 1: we started talking. I was like, I'm putting this band together.
Speaker 1: Do you know any guitar players, Let's start there, and
Speaker 1: he gave me a list of guitar players and going
Speaker 1: back to kind of the session player thing, I met
Speaker 1: one guy who was awesome and he was great, good vibe,
Speaker 1: good hanging. And I was like, Oh, this guy is awesome.
Speaker 1: I can't wait from the play with us. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, my day rates two fifty a day, and
Speaker 1: I immediately was like, oh, that may not work, which
Speaker 1: means he's not investing coming in low with the high.
Speaker 1: He just wants to pay right right. He's a player,
Speaker 1: which he deserves. I mean, you know, he had done
Speaker 1: a lot of things and play with other people, and
Speaker 1: this is he's at that point where he is a
Speaker 1: professional career musician. Where we were doing this thing, we
Speaker 1: were building it from the ground up, and uh, you
Speaker 1: gotta be poor to build from the ground up. Actually,
Speaker 1: like you have to be willing to be poor. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And he wasn't willing to be poor, which is there
Speaker 1: because he didn't have to be right exactly, and and
Speaker 1: it would I don't think it would have worked because
Speaker 1: when you're starting out, you've you've kind of all got
Speaker 1: to be on the same page, because you're gonna play
Speaker 1: really bad gigs and really awkward gigs, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be in situations where it sounds bad and you're not
Speaker 1: getting paid anything except for free food and drinks or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And if everyone's not in the same
Speaker 1: mindset and kind of in the same place and with
Speaker 1: the same vision, there's gonna be someone unhappy. So I
Speaker 1: think it's important in that early stage to kind of
Speaker 1: make sure you're on the same page with that. So
Speaker 1: the next guy called up went to mts U and
Speaker 1: and we started talking and we clicked musically, and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I invited him to come out and play
Speaker 1: with us. So the three of us started playing, and
Speaker 1: that was Eric was a guitar player, So Eric Trip
Speaker 1: and I started playing, and then Eric went to school
Speaker 1: with Chandler who plays bass and Jared who plays everything. Um,
Speaker 1: so he brought them along. So then we had three
Speaker 1: mts U guys and Tripped myself. And you know that
Speaker 1: it was funny because the first time I remember the
Speaker 1: first rehearsal, wasn't this random living room this guy let
Speaker 1: us use and uh, and we were playing and we
Speaker 1: had this whole plan, like I had these songs, we're
Speaker 1: gonna practice them, and and we really probably played music
Speaker 1: for like twenty or thirty minutes and then just started
Speaker 1: hanging out. We took a break just and we hung
Speaker 1: out to like three in the morning, and then it
Speaker 1: was like, you guys, want to do this tomorrow, Like
Speaker 1: we'll hang out tomorrow and maybe bring our instruments and
Speaker 1: and so it started real organically and real naturally as
Speaker 1: as it turned into five friends hanging out who also
Speaker 1: played music. Um, okay, so you had to become friends.
Speaker 1: That's a tough thing to do. Yeah, it And five
Speaker 1: is a lot of personalities. And I know it because
Speaker 1: one I hang out with the same people every day
Speaker 1: to a radio show, work together every day many hours,
Speaker 1: and you learn And at first was infatuation stage where
Speaker 1: you're like, these are the greatest people in the world.
Speaker 1: That's like, I'm so tired of a couple of them.
Speaker 1: Then you're tired of another couple of them, and then
Speaker 1: you just realize what everyone's faults are and how to
Speaker 1: accept them and if you really want to be in
Speaker 1: a long term and so are the five people that
Speaker 1: you started officially at Lanka with at the same five
Speaker 1: now same five so nobody switched in it out. Nope,
Speaker 1: no one switching out. Here's the awkward question, when did
Speaker 1: you do you get paid more everybody else? Uh no,
Speaker 1: you gets split it five ways. Yeah, look at that,
Speaker 1: so and look at that. Yeah yeah, so we I mean,
Speaker 1: and that was another thing early on, it's it's for me. Um,
Speaker 1: you're good dude. Now there there are things where in
Speaker 1: the future, you know, if people you know people right,
Speaker 1: if you're right, because put but early on, honestly, early on,
Speaker 1: I was the first one to get a publishing deal,
Speaker 1: and so I fronted the cost for everything because we
Speaker 1: we got this RV to tour around in um and
Speaker 1: I would pay for gas, like I just my publishing money.
Speaker 1: I looked at as land cos money. So I was
Speaker 1: paying for everything and I wasn't taking money for for
Speaker 1: show gigs. I would just you know, everyone want to
Speaker 1: split it because I I I you know, I looked
Speaker 1: at it. You know, Lanco helped me get this publishing deal,
Speaker 1: and we're all in this together. And so now it's
Speaker 1: even doubts where yeah, we play shows, we all get
Speaker 1: paid for it. And it's also two different jobs as
Speaker 1: a band. You guys are playing and it's really awesome
Speaker 1: that you split it five ways because your name is
Speaker 1: in the band, just saying, but you all do right.
Speaker 1: And if you have publishing deals, that's a whole different thing.
Speaker 1: Paid you have to write certain amount of a right.
Speaker 1: And we have different publishing deals too, you know, so
Speaker 1: like with different companies and we write for different people.
Speaker 1: You know, we're all over the place, So get really
Speaker 1: messy if you started throwing that all in there. But
Speaker 1: as far as yeah, we're all on stage together, we're
Speaker 1: all sweating the same. We're all if someone buys a
Speaker 1: T shirt, we all work to help sell that T
Speaker 1: shirt on stage. And so there you go. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Surprised with that whole If my name was then it
Speaker 1: what I go? Even it's probably not. My band is
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Speaker 1: the Bobby Bones Show. So here with Brandon Lancaster of
Speaker 1: of Lanko and so, okay, you guys are a band. Um,
Speaker 1: let's just kind of go around the circle for a
Speaker 1: second and start with what's happening right now. You guys
Speaker 1: are out on the road with the couple of my
Speaker 1: friends brothers OSBO and right. Yeah, and so when you're
Speaker 1: out on the road, how much time do you actually
Speaker 1: spend together with the other band with them? Uh, it's
Speaker 1: been a pretty cool situation because we hang out pretty
Speaker 1: much every night. Um, we you know, we kind of
Speaker 1: knew them before, and we got to hang out with
Speaker 1: them once before, and then I know, I know John
Speaker 1: from just the riding circles in Nashville and his wife Lucy,
Speaker 1: and so there's there's already kind of a connection there,
Speaker 1: and so we're we're kind of just all buddies and
Speaker 1: and I mean honestly, most nights after the show will
Speaker 1: walk on their bus and hang out until a bus call,
Speaker 1: and and before the show, you know, might hang out
Speaker 1: in the dressing room. It's it's it's pretty tight community.
Speaker 1: It's really fun. They're good dudes. Yeah, and there are
Speaker 1: a lot of good people, and there are people and
Speaker 1: it also gets busy and groups stay in groups. But
Speaker 1: they're they're good dudes. Yeah, they're very and they're very genuine.
Speaker 1: You know. The first time we really hung out with
Speaker 1: them was at this festival in a Michigan and and
Speaker 1: I knew John, but no one really knew each other
Speaker 1: the band or you know, and in Lanko new John
Speaker 1: or TJ. And so I talked to John. John was like,
Speaker 1: you guys should come hang out with us after we're
Speaker 1: done playing. So we were in this nine eight Winnebago
Speaker 1: at the time and they invite us onto our bus.
Speaker 1: And this was three in the afternoon and we were
Speaker 1: supposed to leave it four in the afternoon. We ended
Speaker 1: up staying there till literally two in the morning. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't just a good hang like John and TJ
Speaker 1: like we were on their bus, We're watching TV, um
Speaker 1: watching sports and and I mean they're so cool. They
Speaker 1: literally like, man, we've been. We've been. We've been in
Speaker 1: a van, We've been in all kinds of vehicles. We
Speaker 1: know what it's like to not have a bus. If
Speaker 1: you got like, if you're tired, take a nap. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys can hang out. You know, we've got TVs. Like,
Speaker 1: grab yourself a beer, water, whatever you guys need. What's
Speaker 1: ours is yours. And so we thought that was so
Speaker 1: cool that they kind of, you know, approached it that way.
Speaker 1: And really it just seems so genuine. They didn't have
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that you can hang out
Speaker 1: with someone to not be that inviting and that cool.
Speaker 1: And so we we from from day one, we've just
Speaker 1: thought the world of them, and I think they're really
Speaker 1: genuine guys. I think that's why a lot of the
Speaker 1: internal community roots for them to not only are they
Speaker 1: really good, but they're really good people. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people, but then they're genuine humans. Those dudes
Speaker 1: are cool. I had dinner with John a couple of
Speaker 1: nights ago, and John Osborne is one with a big
Speaker 1: beard and kind of the big red hair. T J
Speaker 1: is the clean cut guy, you know. Definitely the vocalist,
Speaker 1: uh and John plays guitar like a madman. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's acts. I'm not kidding. They're one of the only
Speaker 1: acts I respect. Really. We get to be with so
Speaker 1: many acts. We've toured with so many acts past year,
Speaker 1: and I respect all of them, and they all have
Speaker 1: different strengths. Um, but Brothers Osborne is the only band
Speaker 1: that we've toured with that if I'm not getting Every night,
Speaker 1: after we're done we load up our stuff, we all
Speaker 1: either walk back out front or side stage and just
Speaker 1: watch their set because it's so good and and every
Speaker 1: night John brings on the guitar and and t J
Speaker 1: just a great vocalist, and it's it's such a pleasure
Speaker 1: to watch them. And it's a story of John has
Speaker 1: been in Nashville as of right now sixteen years and
Speaker 1: they're just now starting to be like a thing, right,
Speaker 1: and they've always been good, but I'm just not starting
Speaker 1: to be a thing sixteen years. It's a testament of
Speaker 1: just stay with it and grind and if okay, if
Speaker 1: a song doesn't make it, okay, what's the next one?
Speaker 1: You get dropped from a label? Okay, what's the next
Speaker 1: one you get? What's the next one? Keep going? And
Speaker 1: you know that's that's a great story for young people
Speaker 1: because you know, you do things, just don't fall into
Speaker 1: your lap, trust me, I know. So for you, where
Speaker 1: did it start? Like when did people start sniffing around
Speaker 1: and think because like how guys are pretty good? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we got we got our start, you know
Speaker 1: in uh we would we would play in Murphy's Broll sometimes.
Speaker 1: But really Trip worked at this warehouse literally right down
Speaker 1: the street and uh uh Admier's warehouse and they've actually
Speaker 1: knocked it down since then, which is sad. But we
Speaker 1: didn't even we couldn't even afford a place to practice.
Speaker 1: And so Trip, you know, literally was like I have
Speaker 1: the key to my warehouse I work, and we could
Speaker 1: sneak in there at night. So we would, you know,
Speaker 1: literally sneak in there every night. And just play. And
Speaker 1: you know, there was no air, no heats when the winners.
Speaker 1: It was freezing in the summers. Literally, there's videos going
Speaker 1: around of us like practicing in our boxers because we're
Speaker 1: all just sweating, and but we're gonna play and we're
Speaker 1: gonna practice. So we were doing that and we would play.
Speaker 1: We would play wherever we could. But one thing for
Speaker 1: us was because we were a band and we had
Speaker 1: original music, finding a place in Nashville was always a
Speaker 1: struggle because if you go to Broadway, they want a
Speaker 1: four hour cover set because tourists, they're there and they
Speaker 1: want to hear familiar songs exactly, which I totally get
Speaker 1: an understanding. I mean, I've had plenty of nights on
Speaker 1: Broadway when I first moved here, and I love singing
Speaker 1: all the classic songs. But uh, for us, you were
Speaker 1: you know, we're do covers. We have no problem doing covers,
Speaker 1: but we really wanted to showcase our original music and
Speaker 1: really wanted to grow as a band, growing our original music.
Speaker 1: So we would play wherever we could get a gig.
Speaker 1: But it might be outside of Broadway, it might be
Speaker 1: on Demumbrium or in midtown Um and these are streets
Speaker 1: in Nashville, the country. Yeah, it's a they're all still downtown,
Speaker 1: but they're not on that main strip and it's it's
Speaker 1: where a little more original music is that. So we
Speaker 1: were doing that for a while and then but we
Speaker 1: all had odd jobs. You know, I was working at
Speaker 1: a concession stand and can you work at Bridgetone? I
Speaker 1: worked at Bridgetone are which is every town has a
Speaker 1: big arena, and bridge Stone is where, you know, like
Speaker 1: if Keith Urban played Bridgestone, it's you know, it's the
Speaker 1: Square Garden of New York. Which is funny you say,
Speaker 1: Keith Urban played bridge Stone because this is where are
Speaker 1: a lot literally our lives took a turn. We had
Speaker 1: been playing this music, playing gigs, playing in bars, honestly,
Speaker 1: playing like restaurants where people are eating montrealistics and you're
Speaker 1: trying to put on a show. And one night I'm
Speaker 1: working concessions, selling hot dogs and burgers and and sewed
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And we already abandoned this point that
Speaker 1: we're practicing. Oh yeah, we were a band, we were
Speaker 1: playing gigs, We're doing whatever we couldn't. This was a
Speaker 1: point where we were sitting around, we were trying to
Speaker 1: demo songs to Nashville. We were trying to get a
Speaker 1: producer it. But going from that band that plays some
Speaker 1: songs to a band that has recorded music, to a
Speaker 1: band that sells, to a band that gets a record deal,
Speaker 1: there's so many steps. And we were talking about those steps,
Speaker 1: you know, how do we get a producer, how do
Speaker 1: we get recorded music? How do we afford it? Should
Speaker 1: we do a go fund me or what should we do?
Speaker 1: Right around that time, I'm working a Keith Urban concert
Speaker 1: at Bridgestone and uh, yeah, get your dog. Just doing
Speaker 1: the register and I see a guy walk by that
Speaker 1: I recognized, and his name's Jay Joyce. He's a producer
Speaker 1: in Nashville. And he you know, he had produced Eric Church,
Speaker 1: he had produced Keith Urban, he had produced uh, Carrie
Speaker 1: Underwood and a Little Big Town and and a bunch
Speaker 1: of rock bands classic you know, Emmy, Lou Harris, Cage,
Speaker 1: Elephant Um. He was He also played with the Wallflowers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he's a great play yeah, I mean great musician,
Speaker 1: then producer. He's done all the Miranda stuff, Like, played
Speaker 1: a lot of guitar on that. So he's been so
Speaker 1: I was a fan. We were all fans of his
Speaker 1: as a producer, as a player, and we we knew him,
Speaker 1: you know, and and he was just one of those
Speaker 1: guys and we love Eric Church, you know, he's he
Speaker 1: did all the Eric records. And I'm working my register
Speaker 1: at bridge Stone and see him walk by at Keith
Speaker 1: at a Keith Urban show and a Little Big Town
Speaker 1: was also playing that and he had worked on both
Speaker 1: his records. So that's that's why I was there. Um,
Speaker 1: he walks by and my line was kind of dead.
Speaker 1: Oh you went after him at the show. I shut
Speaker 1: down my register, asked the people in my line if
Speaker 1: they could move to another line while they were yelling
Speaker 1: at me. I kind of just left and walked up
Speaker 1: to him. And what are you wearing? I needivisualized when
Speaker 1: you go up to J. Joyce is a big producer
Speaker 1: and big, big player and it's worked, I mean again
Speaker 1: everything from Faith to Urban to Thomas read a little bit.
Speaker 1: What are you wearing? I'm wearing Khaki's in a bridge
Speaker 1: Stone Arena uniform, in a name tag that says my
Speaker 1: name is Brandon. What colors the shirt? Blue and gold?
Speaker 1: There because predators colors. So so you go up to J.
Speaker 1: Joyce who's there too, and advisor a Bridge Stone visor.
Speaker 1: Oh now we're talking. Now we're talking. You go up
Speaker 1: to this really cool innovative producer and the dorky is
Speaker 1: close imaginable and you say, what, Well, first I saw,
Speaker 1: I was like down. It was kind of at the
Speaker 1: very end of the arena, so it was kind of
Speaker 1: dead part and he was the only person standing there,
Speaker 1: and I'm down, and I kind of go Jay Jay
Speaker 1: to see if he'll turn his head, to make sure
Speaker 1: to make sure it's him, because it's so weird that
Speaker 1: it could even be him, because you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: what is he even doing here? He's you know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't get out much. And uh, and I got Jenny
Speaker 1: turns his head and I just walk up to him
Speaker 1: and hey, man, my name is Brandon, which was funny
Speaker 1: because I'm wearing a name tag my name is Brandon,
Speaker 1: but yeah, my name is Brandon, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you man, I'm a huge
Speaker 1: fan of what you do. Uh, and just told him,
Speaker 1: you know, I love the records he had worked on
Speaker 1: and referenced some records and did you know this happens
Speaker 1: to every minute of every day, Like yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering where the approach came in, Like what did you do?
Speaker 1: This is different? You know, I don't know what I
Speaker 1: will say. One thing about Jay is he doesn't go
Speaker 1: out a lot like he was. I think three of
Speaker 1: the five album of the years the Album of the
Speaker 1: Year this year for c m as either two or
Speaker 1: three of the five he had worked on. He wasn't
Speaker 1: at the c m A Awards, Like he didn't even go.
Speaker 1: He was working. So he but when he does go out,
Speaker 1: I know people approach him, but you know I I
Speaker 1: didn't because people always say like, oh, you made a move,
Speaker 1: like you pitched yourself, like you saw something you went
Speaker 1: not really like as much as I'd like to say
Speaker 1: like yeah, I really went for it. I just loved
Speaker 1: what the guy did. I loved his work, and we're
Speaker 1: you knowledgeable in his works and you know, you just
Speaker 1: absolutely that's a big deal. Yeah, if you go to
Speaker 1: someone and you don't have time to prepare and you
Speaker 1: know everything about them, yeah, there's there's a respect that
Speaker 1: even though you're pitching, they're like, oh, you actually know
Speaker 1: what I do, right, And that's what I you know, initially,
Speaker 1: I just went up to tell him. I love the
Speaker 1: Air the Last Air, trich Tracker, the Outsiders that he
Speaker 1: had done, and and the little big town stuff and
Speaker 1: also like Cage the Elephant. It's a rock band and
Speaker 1: amously you know, and I asked him a few questions
Speaker 1: about some of this stuff on the record, and so
Speaker 1: we just started talking music, um, and then that came
Speaker 1: around to him asking, you know about me and my thing,
Speaker 1: and he was like, you're a songwriter, right, because I,
Speaker 1: you know, talked about writing and it's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a writer and I'm in a band. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: tell me about the band. Kind of started talking about it,
Speaker 1: and he just real nontionally because that that's cool. Manage
Speaker 1: should complain me some music sometime. And you got a
Speaker 1: direction that that would be uh, that would be putting
Speaker 1: it lightly. No, Uh, well, I mean the thing is Nashville, though,
Speaker 1: you hear that kind of everyone's like, let's have a dinner,
Speaker 1: let's get together, let's right together. Let's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's the Nashville hey man, Let's write together. You never
Speaker 1: and I've had producers before, you know, say like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'd love to work with some stuff, man, And it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, they don't call you back, they're busy for
Speaker 1: two years, you know whatever, and frankly you're unknown. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: what's the benefit of working with some kids in a
Speaker 1: dorky set of khakis? I mean, they were cool khakis. Man,
Speaker 1: there's always a benefit if you hit the right one.
Speaker 1: But there are a thousand door he gets in khakis.
Speaker 1: As for him to go, hey, play me some music,
Speaker 1: it's one thing, but for him to actually follow up
Speaker 1: and now, how did that happen? So I I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd love to you man, that'd be cool, not even
Speaker 1: thinking it could be real. That was towards me in
Speaker 1: the conversation. Kind of the conversation, you know, came to
Speaker 1: an end, and I thought, what if he is serious?
Speaker 1: What if I really could play him some music? That'd
Speaker 1: be so cool just to play for him, you know,
Speaker 1: just to even go to a studio. So I like
Speaker 1: started walking right away and awkwardly turned. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just realized that I don't have your number. Is
Speaker 1: there a way I get your number? And he's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Sared. He was funny. He just said it
Speaker 1: like he said his number, and thank god I had
Speaker 1: my phone out and really quickly put it in and
Speaker 1: saved it, and I was like cool, thanks, man. Was
Speaker 1: it like, are you married? Single? Got a girlfriend right
Speaker 1: right right now? Have a girlfriend? Was it like when
Speaker 1: you meet a girl and you you meet them and
Speaker 1: you like them and you have it like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to call I don't know when I should
Speaker 1: call them, Like I don't know what day, what time
Speaker 1: of the day should I t Was that like that?
Speaker 1: It was exactly like that. I went to that night.
Speaker 1: So Trip the drummer literally lives on the next street
Speaker 1: over from here, by the way, um, and we were
Speaker 1: at you know, neighbors down the street. We were over there,
Speaker 1: we were pubbed down there and he was there and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I text him after work like
Speaker 1: stay where we're at. I gotta come over the pub.
Speaker 1: I gotta show you something. And I went there and
Speaker 1: showed him, just showed him Jay's number. She said Jay
Speaker 1: Joyce and his number and he's like no, you know.
Speaker 1: And then it kind of became like, well, now what
Speaker 1: I mean, what do we call them? So I thought,
Speaker 1: let's get some music together, Let's get some good demos
Speaker 1: so we can have an accurate representation of what we're doing.
Speaker 1: So we went through like two different producers, paid them
Speaker 1: like for demo costs. By the way, you're hiring producers
Speaker 1: to produce something so another producer hears it, right, just
Speaker 1: I mean it was just demos, you know. It's like, hey, well,
Speaker 1: you demos aren't recording into your iPhone. There's the recording
Speaker 1: into your iPhone, the work tape, and then there's getting
Speaker 1: someone to actually put a little work into a track.
Speaker 1: And you're paying a producer so another producer will hear
Speaker 1: it and hopefully produce you. Like, it's so many little depth.
Speaker 1: That's what we were talking about, absolutely and so and
Speaker 1: that's why that's the way you're supposed to do. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to have demos when you go to someone and
Speaker 1: and will demo stuff ourselves, which just doesn't sound as
Speaker 1: good as going to a studio. So I was all right,
Speaker 1: let's play. Let's pay a few hundred bucks per track
Speaker 1: and give him like three songs and have some work tapes.
Speaker 1: And we had two different producers, like we'd start and
Speaker 1: they'd bail. And now a month had passed since I
Speaker 1: talked to Jay. I totally forgot about you, and so
Speaker 1: I was on my way over the studio to like
Speaker 1: talk to this producer that had had He was a
Speaker 1: good guy, nice guy, he was busy and it just
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting to our stuff. And I'm in traffic
Speaker 1: and I swear, this is like a movie and this
Speaker 1: sounds so corny, but I'm listening to radio and Springsteen
Speaker 1: comes on, not bruised Eric Church of Springsteen, which Jay
Speaker 1: had produced, and I hear it and I literally just
Speaker 1: pull out of traffic, pull into a parking lot and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna go. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna call him. And I just call him. Didn't have
Speaker 1: anything to offer, didn't like I loved to send you
Speaker 1: some demos. I said, hey man, this is really round
Speaker 1: Money's Brandon Lancaster. I met you like a month ago
Speaker 1: at Bridge Stone. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, what's up.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, well, you know you you you
Speaker 1: said about a month ago that maybe I come over
Speaker 1: and play some music and I'd love to do that.
Speaker 1: And I kind of started giving my story about not
Speaker 1: having demos. He's like, he goes, and this is very
Speaker 1: Jay goes, look kid, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: Why are you calling me? What do you want, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be an artist. I
Speaker 1: want to be an artist. I want to be a songwriter.
Speaker 1: I'm in this band. I want to play all over
Speaker 1: the world. I want to I want people to hear
Speaker 1: our music. I want to be a songwriter. I just
Speaker 1: the next step. I'm trying to get that next step.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, we'll come over tomorrow around three o'clock. Wow,
Speaker 1: that quick, huh. So I go over by myself and
Speaker 1: playing some songs on acoustic guitar, which it's funny. We
Speaker 1: put all that work and trying to get demos. But
Speaker 1: the way Jay is, he wants to hear it kind of.
Speaker 1: So he's like, just play, like, pick up that guitar
Speaker 1: and play, Like, play what you think is a single?
Speaker 1: So I played him a song. He's like, what you
Speaker 1: play him? We do? Yeah, I get there right here.
Speaker 1: This is uh, it's actually you at Jay sent us this,
Speaker 1: this is you at his but I do have we
Speaker 1: do here we go, So you play you play this
Speaker 1: pharm acoustic? Yeah, acoustic? What's like when you're playing it?
Speaker 1: Are you watching it? I'm kind of but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying not to think about that. This means
Speaker 1: anything in my mind when you're in those situations like
Speaker 1: I'm a very my personalize, I'll i'll look I'm very
Speaker 1: future oriented. I'll think like, well, how is this going
Speaker 1: to play out? And what will happen if I do
Speaker 1: this and this and this. But in those kind of situations,
Speaker 1: I can freak myself out. So I kind of just
Speaker 1: that's a kind of situation where you go, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is really cool. No matter how this turns out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell my kids about this one day. I
Speaker 1: want to be like, yeah, one of those guys, do
Speaker 1: you do playing some songs. I got to meet him
Speaker 1: and played his piano, you know whatever it was, and
Speaker 1: and so I was kind of just in the moment
Speaker 1: playing the song, just enjoying that I was playing it
Speaker 1: for him, and uh, I finished, and he's stone cold,
Speaker 1: like he's good poker face and he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna like show emotions. She's like, cool, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can. You can write a good song. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a hit. That's cool. Uh, now play a
Speaker 1: song that never would be on the radio, but you
Speaker 1: really like it. And I played him another song called
Speaker 1: in the Morning that we actually ended up cutting. Uh,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's not out yet in the morning ever,
Speaker 1: not that one. If if I wrote that, then I
Speaker 1: would have flown my private jet um every morning for
Speaker 1: those that are going to correct me on Twitter. So
Speaker 1: you play in the morning for him, Yeah, And and
Speaker 1: you know it's a it's a more of a ballad
Speaker 1: and a different time signature, and it's a little more artsy,
Speaker 1: but it's a very real song lyrically, and you know
Speaker 1: it's a it's a love song. But it starts out,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of you, you're sick of me, um, And
Speaker 1: it's kind of about just the journey of no matter
Speaker 1: what we're going through in the morning, we're still gonna
Speaker 1: wake up and be best friends. So just know that.
Speaker 1: And it's okay whatever we're going through right now. Um.
Speaker 1: So I played him that, and then I played him
Speaker 1: American Love Story. That is your best song, by the way,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad I played it for him then,
Speaker 1: and uh, and he he thought it was cool and
Speaker 1: he was like, all right, that's that's you know, it's
Speaker 1: I've heard I need to hear. And after that, so
Speaker 1: he produced you because of that that and Mary, I
Speaker 1: guess yeah, I mean he hate producer because what we
Speaker 1: do and and I hate easily love the story. And
Speaker 1: then this is a good song. We love this one.
Speaker 1: We didn't know a long live times ago. It's fine.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this American Love Story is for
Speaker 1: like your best song, thank you man. We're excited about
Speaker 1: that one. And that you know from day one. American
Speaker 1: Love Story is a special song. It's a story. It's
Speaker 1: it's the reason it's a song. That's the reason you're
Speaker 1: in country music. UM, it's just that worry that people
Speaker 1: relate to. UM. And it's been cool to play it
Speaker 1: on the road literally every night, which we love it
Speaker 1: like people keep doing it. But every night people come
Speaker 1: up to us and tell us how they are the
Speaker 1: American web Story, and that's their story. Whether it's someone's
Speaker 1: deployed in the army and they came back, or whether
Speaker 1: they met in high school or man in college, or
Speaker 1: we'll have old couples, young couples, and so it's been
Speaker 1: really cool to see a song like that relate to
Speaker 1: so many different people on so many levels and kind
Speaker 1: of put their story into it. So you and I've
Speaker 1: got it, and I got a job. I was working
Speaker 1: that nine five. I don't think about this band. The
Speaker 1: singer kind of sucks. It's terrible. Never fell so alive.
Speaker 1: I spaming day's work, can't spaming night's drinking, halling that
Speaker 1: screaming falling day you coming back nold, couldn't come too soon,
Speaker 1: couldn't come too soon. Well, now it's gonna be up forever.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be off better. And now I was learning
Speaker 1: about American love story there from Lanco. Man, this girlfriend
Speaker 1: you have? All you guys been together, oh, man, a while.
Speaker 1: We met in college, so about six years. Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 1: I knew there would be something to it when you
Speaker 1: took a breath before you answered, well, it's because I
Speaker 1: always get it wrong. How long we've been together? Six years? Huh?
Speaker 1: How does she feel about this with you? The growth
Speaker 1: the road. You're a good looking dude, you're fronting a band,
Speaker 1: You're getting some trade. It's as much as it's a
Speaker 1: grind for you on this front, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: never better. It's also a little it's worked for her too,
Speaker 1: to have to be in a relationship. What's someone like you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean touring, being in a band, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: Just being a relationship with me, period, I think it'd
Speaker 1: be tough. Um, but with all the added stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: one thing that I think that we have an advantage
Speaker 1: is that she was She knew me in college, We
Speaker 1: got to know each each other in college, became friends
Speaker 1: in college, started dating college. She's seen me go from
Speaker 1: a college student playing in coffee shops and bands in
Speaker 1: college to moving to Nashville, staying up, you know, talking
Speaker 1: all night about I don't know what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 1: I don't know how we're gonna, you know, complaining. She
Speaker 1: was there when we get the record deal. She's there
Speaker 1: when you get the publishing deal. She's there when you
Speaker 1: have first mixes, she's there when you everything that's happened,
Speaker 1: she's been there for so when when times are hard,
Speaker 1: she's kind of been to this journey with you. So
Speaker 1: she's she's really excited for me, she's really excited for
Speaker 1: the band, and she's been a part of our story.
Speaker 1: And so she knows how hard we've worked for it,
Speaker 1: and she knows how hard I've worked for it, and
Speaker 1: so there's just so much support and so even and
Speaker 1: when times are hard, when you're gone, you miss each other,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. UM, I think because we've built
Speaker 1: such a foundation. She's been a part of this. You'll go,
Speaker 1: you're a little bit like, hi, bright, now let's go
Speaker 1: so low. I think you can do this, but not
Speaker 1: at all. No, Yeah, she wants to be in a
Speaker 1: duo and we're gonna that's that's actually the next step.
Speaker 1: She she used to like she's a musical person, she
Speaker 1: can sing, but she's a teacher. So it's so good. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in trouble for saying that it's really
Speaker 1: good to date someone not in the same kind of industry.
Speaker 1: Is as I say that at the time of this recording,
Speaker 1: my girlfriends and artists. So it's it's grinding because we're
Speaker 1: both we're both in different pat it's solid that she
Speaker 1: has a foundation any job, because you're nuts, right, and
Speaker 1: it's a nice balance. Yeah, And and teaching specifically, you know,
Speaker 1: it's cool because they get summers off and then breaks
Speaker 1: off and stuff. So she can traut like this summer,
Speaker 1: you know she can't. We played a lot of PLUSA.
Speaker 1: She can do all of Palusa and just different festivals
Speaker 1: like that. But then, so it's nice. There are things
Speaker 1: where if you were dating someone in the industry, I
Speaker 1: think it'd be cool because you guys could talk about
Speaker 1: you can talk about industry things, and there'd be you
Speaker 1: would understand it a little more than than a teacher might.
Speaker 1: But it is nice to get off the road and
Speaker 1: kind of have another life and kind of be able
Speaker 1: to take a break. And when she's talking about her day,
Speaker 1: I don't really have a if she's talking about her
Speaker 1: classroom or lesson plans or another teacher, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you know, I can just relax and listen. And it's
Speaker 1: as supposed where if she was like a songwriter or
Speaker 1: I'll be like, well, maybe you should and before you
Speaker 1: know what, you're now like trying to handle two careers. Um.
Speaker 1: But I mean I think that's cool. I think that
Speaker 1: you know, you're dating an artist. I think that'd be cool,
Speaker 1: you know, because you have then you have a major
Speaker 1: thing in common. I'm dating a good person. The artist thing.
Speaker 1: Artists are weird and and I say that, and we're
Speaker 1: both different kinds of artists. We create different things. We're nuts.
Speaker 1: You have to be nuts to do what we do. Yeah. Absolutely, Um?
Speaker 1: What what great? Like? What age of the kids that
Speaker 1: she teaches? She's been all over the place. She used
Speaker 1: to do elementary, then she did did middle school, and
Speaker 1: now she is doing high school. Oh dude, I bet
Speaker 1: the high school kids are like all that would be.
Speaker 1: So she's a young high school teacher. She's actually fifty three,
Speaker 1: so that I'll talk about just kidding, got that November
Speaker 1: March romance. It's even longer than so. Okay, high school kids, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they probably think they got I mean she's
Speaker 1: not married, right, Yeah. Yeah. If I was in high school,
Speaker 1: i'd be like, I'm gonna get I'm gonna yeah, like
Speaker 1: the high school dude a little bit flat with her?
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Oh yeah. Like and she she used to
Speaker 1: help coach cheerleading, so she would be at all. She's
Speaker 1: at a private school, so it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: you do everything. Yeah, Like she she was a cheerlead
Speaker 1: in high school for like a year, so they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: help with cheerleading. It's more just she wasn't like the
Speaker 1: actual coach, just help out. But oh yeah, I would
Speaker 1: get football games or basketball games, and oh yeah, those
Speaker 1: those seniors in high school there, as far as they're concerned,
Speaker 1: they're grown men, and you know they got this like
Speaker 1: they're trying to look up miss Lanko right now in
Speaker 1: Mislanko was what's that's funny? Man? So she's a high
Speaker 1: school teacher. Yep. Do you know the stuff that she teaches,
Speaker 1: because I feel like right now I'd be so stupid
Speaker 1: with the curriculum that's happening right now. I know, I
Speaker 1: know it's that's not it's so it's a world so
Speaker 1: far removed from mine that you know, she teaches English
Speaker 1: and she'll correct you, uh she has before, but it's not.
Speaker 1: She mainly does like papers and like you know, they'll
Speaker 1: read a book and do a book summary things like that.
Speaker 1: So it is I'm like, you know, she'll be grading
Speaker 1: all like look over her shoulder and see and she'll
Speaker 1: like correct something that sounds good to me, Like I'm
Speaker 1: a writer. I mean, who in the years that you
Speaker 1: guys have been doing this and you've been able to
Speaker 1: go out in the road with people like who are
Speaker 1: some of the uh they acts that you've seen and went, man,
Speaker 1: that's really good because you see everybody in this town.
Speaker 1: It's such a you may look at Nashville from the
Speaker 1: outside of it's a big city, but it's such a
Speaker 1: small town for such a big industry. So you get
Speaker 1: to see everybody at some point, who have you seen
Speaker 1: you look at and you go, man, that's really good.
Speaker 1: That's how That's how I want to do it. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's not exactly what I want to do, but that's
Speaker 1: how I want to do it. Yeah, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean definitely, and know we are talking about brothers
Speaker 1: Osborne Woul definitely one, but other than them, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, this this summer it was really cool. We
Speaker 1: got to play a lot of festivals and so we
Speaker 1: got to see a lot of the huge you know
Speaker 1: a list people like Jason Alden and you know, I
Speaker 1: grew up with I knew Jason Alden since high school.
Speaker 1: You know, I I'm familiar with his music, but I've
Speaker 1: never seen him live. And it was so cool because, yeah,
Speaker 1: Lanko is not Jason Aldean and and that may not
Speaker 1: be what or who we are, but seeing him put
Speaker 1: on a show and the energy and the way he's
Speaker 1: communicating the audience and just being a ringleader that night
Speaker 1: of you know, just capitalizing on this opportunity where you
Speaker 1: have all these people and you're leading the charge of
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a great night. We're all in
Speaker 1: this together. Seeing him do it a lot. I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of the pros got to you know, I
Speaker 1: got to see Luke brian Um people like that that
Speaker 1: you see how long they've been doing it. Miranda Lambert
Speaker 1: would be another one. You know, got to see her
Speaker 1: this summer. And and there's just a craft that they've
Speaker 1: mastered and there's a reason they're up there. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: like that's when you realize, you know, the music good.
Speaker 1: They're right in that part of it's great, but there's
Speaker 1: a reason why they're they're up there on that stage
Speaker 1: in front of ten thousand because they're so good. Keith
Speaker 1: Urban's that way for me. Like to watch Keith Urban play.
Speaker 1: You can hear songs are fantastic on the radio. He
Speaker 1: can come into my radio show and he's saying, is fantastic.
Speaker 1: To watch him play live, it's like a whole other
Speaker 1: dimension you get. You're you're like, okay, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should be Entertainer of the Year. Then you go
Speaker 1: watch Karen like, okay, she should be entertainer. Then you
Speaker 1: go watch Look like, okay, he should be Entertainer of
Speaker 1: the Year. So those guys that are at that level,
Speaker 1: they're there because they are so good at doing that right, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and it's something and we you can all no matter
Speaker 1: where you're at, you can always be learning. And we
Speaker 1: you know, this past year, we just we just absorbed
Speaker 1: everything because and we're a big live band, you know,
Speaker 1: our live show. We take a lot of pride in it,
Speaker 1: and and we love the live experience. We love people
Speaker 1: showing up and and just knowing that, and that was
Speaker 1: one thing I learned, honestly all the way back working
Speaker 1: at bridge Stone was all these people are coming here.
Speaker 1: They all have jobs, they all may have had a
Speaker 1: hard week, they all may have problems in relationships, whatever
Speaker 1: it may be. But tonight is a big night. It's
Speaker 1: a special night that they're going to tell their friends about.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's like trip he saw. Jay's
Speaker 1: not even his sixteen and he still talks about it
Speaker 1: and it's so cool. You know. Bruce Springsteen, I heard
Speaker 1: a thing where he always, you know, will tell his
Speaker 1: band tonight could be somebody's first show and it could
Speaker 1: be somebody's last, so let's play like it. And knowing
Speaker 1: that you have this chance to impact people on a
Speaker 1: night and impact their lives and relate to them and
Speaker 1: sing these songs that it may be their anniversary song,
Speaker 1: or it may take them back to a time in
Speaker 1: college where it was them and all their friends. It's
Speaker 1: just such an honor to be able to to have
Speaker 1: that opportunity to to play in front of people like that,
Speaker 1: and seeing these people that have been doing it for
Speaker 1: so long it have mastered it and still just go out.
Speaker 1: There was so much energy and are so captivating. It's
Speaker 1: it's really fun to watch. You know. One of my friends,
Speaker 1: and I don't use that word loosely, is Christian Bush
Speaker 1: from sugar Land, who is now doing stuff solo, but
Speaker 1: it's still they're still sugar Land. And so you know,
Speaker 1: at five, seven, nine years ago, all those Sugarland was
Speaker 1: a list number one, f number one, playing stadiums, Rena's
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them, you know, the big gigs, right.
Speaker 1: And I was talking to Christian because Christian came out
Speaker 1: and played with us the Raging Idiots, and he played
Speaker 1: guitar and just saying background and Christian, I've written a
Speaker 1: bunch together. We've written some some fun songs, goofy songs,
Speaker 1: you know, and so um there's that I was. We
Speaker 1: were what we were doing, we were playing dope, Campbell Stadium.
Speaker 1: We're playing Florida State University, and so it was us
Speaker 1: an old dominion of Tyler Farr, and Christian was playing
Speaker 1: guitar for us, and he's just doing it because he's
Speaker 1: a nice guys, just a good dude. And I was like,
Speaker 1: hey man, when and he goes, you know, I have
Speaker 1: actually played the stadium, you know, with sugar Land we played,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is it like moving up?
Speaker 1: Going from clubs to bigger clubs, maybe theaters, then you
Speaker 1: start playing the arenas. He said, you know, it was
Speaker 1: a lot like I was so excited for those stadium
Speaker 1: arena shows. But when once you do them, he said,
Speaker 1: sometimes it sounds sucks sometimes the guitars, alright, because it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. It's always the same. And
Speaker 1: if you just practice in the smallest places at being
Speaker 1: the biggest you can be, and you condition your up
Speaker 1: to be that big all the way up and maintain
Speaker 1: it stays the same all the way through, because crap
Speaker 1: happens that at every state. Yeah, you're making more money,
Speaker 1: but as an effect, how good you are, but at
Speaker 1: that point you should already be there. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think that early on that was kind of our mentality.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we were playing restaurants because even playing
Speaker 1: a bar was tough. So a restaurant maybe like okay,
Speaker 1: you can play whatever you want for an hour and
Speaker 1: a half. You know, we have losing money early, a
Speaker 1: lot of bands losing gosh, yes, absolutely losing. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: you would pay to play a gig, like as if
Speaker 1: you're gonna drive to Chattanooger, drive to Atlanta or wherever
Speaker 1: it may be, or Indianapolis, they may throw two five
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Well by the time you you pay for gas,
Speaker 1: or if you stay in a hotel, you're absolutely paying
Speaker 1: about a hundred two hundred bucks to play that show.
Speaker 1: But you're just doing it because one you're you're trying
Speaker 1: to get better, you're trying to kind of get your
Speaker 1: name out there. But a big part of it early
Speaker 1: on was we weren't playing great gigs. We weren't playing
Speaker 1: great venues. You know there we were happy to be there,
Speaker 1: but you know they weren't. It wasn't a theater, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a stadium, it wasn't a club even. And we
Speaker 1: recognized early on, if we don't go out there every
Speaker 1: night and just play the best, that we can and
Speaker 1: have fun and enjoy what we're doing and care that.
Speaker 1: You know what, there's only three people here, but this
Speaker 1: could be cool for them. This is you know, let's
Speaker 1: let's give them good music and play the best we can.
Speaker 1: If you don't do that, it'll get really old, really fast.
Speaker 1: Because it is it's microphones everything. It's the same microphones,
Speaker 1: same guitars, it's monitors, it's a stage, you know it
Speaker 1: a lot of it. You're going through the same thing.
Speaker 1: So if you are reminding yourself, like I get to
Speaker 1: be on stage and play music and I get to
Speaker 1: give this gift to people in the audience, then I
Speaker 1: think it could be a letdown. It could be the point.
Speaker 1: I think that people that have long careers, I think
Speaker 1: it's because they really do love it and they're in
Speaker 1: it because they love it because and they don't know
Speaker 1: how to do anything else. Because if you were just
Speaker 1: doing it to play the more people, and play the
Speaker 1: more people and get more, there's always gonna be another
Speaker 1: thing you're trying to get to. There's always it's like
Speaker 1: chasing money and the career world, the more chase money,
Speaker 1: the less money you're actually going to make. For the
Speaker 1: most part, you're if you chase passion, you're going to
Speaker 1: work harder at it. You're going to get better at
Speaker 1: it because you're working harder, and because you're getting better
Speaker 1: at it, then the money comes. And I think too,
Speaker 1: you know one thing in the band, when you travel
Speaker 1: a lot and you you play with all these other bands,
Speaker 1: it's weird when you start doing this professionally because there's
Speaker 1: literally a ranking system. I mean there's literally a chart
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, you have the number whatever song,
Speaker 1: or you have the number or and then you're on
Speaker 1: the road, it's like, well they have a big fancy
Speaker 1: tour bus. Well, then once you get a tour bus,
Speaker 1: will they have multiple fancy tour buses and there's always
Speaker 1: a ladder to climb, and we'll we'll kind of just
Speaker 1: throw out this quote that's you know, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Comparison is the thief of joy because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we're joyful just being able to make
Speaker 1: music and play music. And the second you start saying
Speaker 1: if you get a number one, we'll guess what, there's
Speaker 1: someone out there with three number ones you get three
Speaker 1: number ones, or someone out there with ten or twenty.
Speaker 1: If you're always looking at other people and comparing yourself.
Speaker 1: It'll rip away the joy from it and and it'll
Speaker 1: stop you from loving what you're doing. Let me ask you,
Speaker 1: this not awkward for me, Dad, I don't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you put out Long Left tonight. So the song comes
Speaker 1: out at your first major label single and where did
Speaker 1: the peak? I believe thirty two? Okay, So for all
Speaker 1: intentsive purposes, the single failed. If you're if you're comparing
Speaker 1: it by a chart standard, yes, and I and I
Speaker 1: I'm comparing it by whatever it's gonna say in radio world,
Speaker 1: which trust me, I have issues with two. I'm in
Speaker 1: the radio and radio more than anybody. Which is so
Speaker 1: funny because it's like a normal person like if if
Speaker 1: you're like I had a top forty single, like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you're huge, But yeah, I know you're shooting
Speaker 1: for that number one or top ten or whatever it
Speaker 1: is or whatever it is. Yeah, so this song comes
Speaker 1: out when they call you and say, all right, this
Speaker 1: song is dead. We're not pushing it anymore. Who makes
Speaker 1: that call to you? Our management talk to us about it, like,
Speaker 1: and it was do you know what was coming? Yes?
Speaker 1: In a way, I mean you wanted to do well
Speaker 1: and obviously you have. Like I remember, it's funny because
Speaker 1: we we were learning all this last year. I mean
Speaker 1: a year ago, I wouldn't be able to talk about
Speaker 1: radio the way I could talk about it now. Charts
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I knew what they were and
Speaker 1: you hear, like number one. I don't know, but how
Speaker 1: do you get a number one? I just I'm just
Speaker 1: putting out music. And you know, when you talk to
Speaker 1: your radio reb check, what's your like, what's your goal
Speaker 1: for this song? Like? Where do you They're like number one?
Speaker 1: You're like, wait a number and you realize there's the
Speaker 1: standard is the number one? That's and if it's not
Speaker 1: number one? So that was interesting for us to learn.
Speaker 1: But in our mindset releasing a single, we wanted it
Speaker 1: to reflect who we are. We wanted to have you
Speaker 1: hyped to think you're about to be a number one artist?
Speaker 1: Did did they? Did they have it in your head
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be a number one artists? Trust us
Speaker 1: on this and you were like and you're like whoa
Speaker 1: And they were like, oh, it didn't make it. If
Speaker 1: they did, we weren't hyped. If they did, I think
Speaker 1: that their job is to be hyped into into work
Speaker 1: like it's got to be number one. We're just looking
Speaker 1: at is all right, you guys are gonna work the song.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play it, and we believe in the song
Speaker 1: and we're happy it's out there. Are if you're honest
Speaker 1: right now? I don't know. I most I wouldn't believe
Speaker 1: that answer, but I feel like you're being honest right
Speaker 1: now about this. Yeah. I mean, it's just weird. It
Speaker 1: just all happened like last year the song was just happy.
Speaker 1: It's your first single. I don't even know what a
Speaker 1: radio tour is a year ago, and then you're on
Speaker 1: radio tour. You what made you go on to radio
Speaker 1: stations and playing in front of programing regular right, And
Speaker 1: so we were you're doing all that. So we're honestly
Speaker 1: just trying to get through. And we were also were
Speaker 1: touring a lot last year, so we're playing shows. So
Speaker 1: if they're like, hey, you moved up a spot where
Speaker 1: like great, we gotta go on stage and play like
Speaker 1: be honest with me. Was Long Live Tonight in your
Speaker 1: mind a failure you guys? Or no? No it was not,
Speaker 1: because was it a success? Yes, the way that I
Speaker 1: would leok at it. I really think it was a
Speaker 1: success because, first of all, when we're looking at our
Speaker 1: first single, we're wanting an accurate representation of us. Who
Speaker 1: is land Co? What is land Co? What's the vibe,
Speaker 1: what's the style like? And when you're looking at a
Speaker 1: year that's an election year, you're looking at all the
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on, You're looking at people in social
Speaker 1: media and all the distractions that are around us. I
Speaker 1: wanted a song that came out first that accurately represented
Speaker 1: who we are, both musically and lyrically. And also we're
Speaker 1: gonna play a lot of live shows, we're playing festivals.
Speaker 1: I wanted an anthemic song that people could rally around
Speaker 1: because ultimately that's what we want Landco to be. So
Speaker 1: to have a song that goes out there and I
Speaker 1: mean it had you know, it got up to I
Speaker 1: think near eighteen million streams on Spotify, So that's very playlisted.
Speaker 1: It is playlisted, not to hate on your no and there,
Speaker 1: I mean there there are instances where you look, I've looked.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I'll look at playlisting and I'll look
Speaker 1: at an artist that had number one and they'll have
Speaker 1: like seven million streams and be on the playlist, and
Speaker 1: then we're in the thirties and have eight team million.
Speaker 1: And although there is playlisting, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: for me, it's not about like, oh, eighteen million went
Speaker 1: and loved our song. That means it was played eighteen
Speaker 1: million times, which means that that message that we cared
Speaker 1: about and we wanted people to hear it got out there.
Speaker 1: And you know what, getting in the thirties, people heard
Speaker 1: it on the radio. When we played these festivals, people
Speaker 1: are singing it. You know, if we play a club show,
Speaker 1: a couple hundred people come out there singing the song.
Speaker 1: So for us to have a first year on the road,
Speaker 1: first single at radio, we had never in our lives
Speaker 1: had people sing a song with us. We're just trying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: someone knows something that you yeah. And and so for
Speaker 1: us to know that a year ago, no one could
Speaker 1: sing one word of a song unless we're playing Sweet
Speaker 1: Caroline or Sweet Caroline. Dude once again, once again, if
Speaker 1: I wrote that song, we once again we'd be at
Speaker 1: my house, in in my and on the top of
Speaker 1: the hill. Um ye, John Richards out right exactly. But
Speaker 1: we uh so it was a success. So you it
Speaker 1: was not a failure to you know, it was a
Speaker 1: lot of time. It's not a failure. It was because
Speaker 1: the most first thing goes. Don't even get the thirties
Speaker 1: right right. I was gonna was gonna pressure hard on
Speaker 1: that and whatever you said to the truth. Yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: has their own truth. I just don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think if you're really an artist and you care about
Speaker 1: your art and you care about your songs, yes you
Speaker 1: wanted to be successful in the charts, but that can't
Speaker 1: be the measure that's that can't be the way that
Speaker 1: you measure whether the song was successful or not, because
Speaker 1: you gotta eat. Okay, if you're talking about like monetary,
Speaker 1: like did it buy me as many meals at a
Speaker 1: restaurant as a number? One? Would have? No, it did not.
Speaker 1: But did people hear it? Did it? I mean we
Speaker 1: would have. I've had people after a show come up
Speaker 1: and be like, when you started playing Long Lived Tonight,
Speaker 1: my friend I started crying because we're graduating college and
Speaker 1: that's been our college anthem. That one story right there,
Speaker 1: the songs of success. I mean, as an artist, you're
Speaker 1: very much an artist. I feel like you could just
Speaker 1: go and write songs and be an artist and be
Speaker 1: cool and happy. And I didn't believe that at first.
Speaker 1: I you you're too pretty. I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: trust me. I've been writing songs and not having any
Speaker 1: success at all for a long time and been happy.
Speaker 1: So it's at this point in my life it's kind
Speaker 1: of I hope to always keep that. But and trust me,
Speaker 1: I want success. I want if you have number one,
Speaker 1: that means way more people have heard it and you're impacting.
Speaker 1: But to me, even the number one just means more
Speaker 1: people are hearing it, so more people have the chance
Speaker 1: to understand you and know you and then come out
Speaker 1: to a show and then you get to give them
Speaker 1: the full thing. So that that's kind of the way
Speaker 1: that I I look at it. Very interesting. Let me
Speaker 1: read about Blue Apron. You have Bloe Apriend. I did not.
Speaker 1: I not kidding. I've listened. I listened to a few
Speaker 1: year podcast and heard you talk about it and almost
Speaker 1: got it from my parents and my kischen right now
Speaker 1: to like, if you walk on my kitchen, like literally
Speaker 1: it's in there. You're not lying. I I'm not lying
Speaker 1: because they sent it in a box. It comes and
Speaker 1: all the ingredients are there and you could like cook
Speaker 1: for your Do you live with your girlfriend? You've been
Speaker 1: together six let's them Maybe it's religions. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know the deal to do you bet together
Speaker 1: six years? Yes? Untill talking about boy, you've been together
Speaker 1: six years. She's got to be kind of pushing you
Speaker 1: a bit, like, oh, yeah, we we have to we
Speaker 1: have the talks about making We've definitely not just talks.
Speaker 1: We've had very serious talks about that next stage in
Speaker 1: our relationship because we're not We both wanted it was
Speaker 1: a thing where too, when you're an artist, I don't
Speaker 1: think that I could afford to live in a shoe
Speaker 1: box with my girlfriend up until even a year ago.
Speaker 1: So now it's just like okay, I mean, yeah, she's
Speaker 1: a teacher, she's a good job. But it's solid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you know, my life has changed the past year
Speaker 1: year and a half, which means that we could have
Speaker 1: more talks. I'm like, I lived with my parents for
Speaker 1: like two years here because I was making no money
Speaker 1: from music, and so when you're like living with your
Speaker 1: parents and and what I hope so what okay, and
Speaker 1: I hope it works out. I've never bet it right.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will. It will to deal with someone
Speaker 1: who and I felt like in the last hour of
Speaker 1: us talking, I can tell that you're you're an artist person.
Speaker 1: There are there are performers, there are artists, there are musicians,
Speaker 1: and they're all the same, but they're really not. An
Speaker 1: artist likes a full representation of them and they don't
Speaker 1: really focus on the accolades that come with it. They
Speaker 1: just want that product to be pure because it makes
Speaker 1: them feel pure. That's what I feel from you through
Speaker 1: talking to you. We just said that's accurate. That is accurate,
Speaker 1: and too, it's trust me. I want I want lots
Speaker 1: of people to know about Lanco. I want Lando to
Speaker 1: be absolutely huge. I would love to be a huge success,
Speaker 1: but if that's going to happen, I want everyone to
Speaker 1: be on the same page. I want the fans. If
Speaker 1: you have fans of audience, you want them. You want
Speaker 1: to feel like you all have a common thread, which
Speaker 1: is this music. And so I absolutely I want huge
Speaker 1: things for Lanco. I literally want to be the biggest
Speaker 1: band there is in country music. But if it's going
Speaker 1: to happen I wanted to happen. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to sleep it not. I want all of us
Speaker 1: be able to sleep in eye and be like, we
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Speaker 1: And you make crazy stuff too that you would never
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Speaker 1: per person per meal. And I don't just talk about
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Speaker 1: are one or two of these before you come over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who'd you hear? Ryan? Heard? H Those are the people
Speaker 1: I know, So I know Ryan, so listen to his.
Speaker 1: Ryan are a lot of light dude in the approach
Speaker 1: of just like I just want my good next to
Speaker 1: be in the environment I want to do the bet
Speaker 1: and Ryan are a lot of like in that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look like I'm telling you looking at you, I'm like,
Speaker 1: look at this little pretty boy. Come on, you gonna
Speaker 1: talk about some girls. I need to grow my hair out,
Speaker 1: and kind of Jesus, Ryan looks like you know Jesus,
Speaker 1: And it's a good Ryan's a good Bran's a good one.
Speaker 1: Who about you here? Hid in Preston from Locals, Which
Speaker 1: that's a good dude. I literally Trip and I listened
Speaker 1: to and Trip text him and I gotta text him
Speaker 1: because I I did not know their story. I thought
Speaker 1: it was so cool to hear just how hard talk
Speaker 1: about working hard and sticking with it and and uh
Speaker 1: believing what you're doing enough to stay with it that
Speaker 1: long through all the hardships. I was really inspired by it.
Speaker 1: Success is not about getting it right. Success is about
Speaker 1: continuing after you get it wrong. M Yeah, that's it,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get it wrong five hundred breaking times,
Speaker 1: and every time you get it wrong, you learn a
Speaker 1: little something else until you learn just enough to get
Speaker 1: it right. And do you have the ability do you
Speaker 1: have the fortitude to continue hanging through all the misses
Speaker 1: to collect all of this knowledge and experience and then
Speaker 1: put out American Love Story? Because that's what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: to my friend. I'm telling you, I got a little
Speaker 1: thing called the ear right, and my air likes American
Speaker 1: Love Story. I think it's a good going. It's a
Speaker 1: good song for you guys, like the whole thing, like
Speaker 1: the songs for radio, for the whole I hope. So
Speaker 1: because I'm excited about it, tell that long love times fine?
Speaker 1: I mean, list nothe play it. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine. I like you guys, and I thought you
Speaker 1: guys were good and I and I told you guys that.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you guys are good. I gotta
Speaker 1: watch you playing, like, Hey, it's really good. God not
Speaker 1: that long enough time sign? Yeah, American love Story. And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't lie, I wouldn't be it. Why don't I care? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we just warmed you up. Then, for American lives.
Speaker 1: Stay here you did? So what's the deal? Now you're
Speaker 1: out back back up planned tomorrow you're back out in
Speaker 1: New Orleans with brothers Osborne. Man. Well, is that Americans?
Speaker 1: Is that gonna be in the radio. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the radio song, right, Yeah, it's the next single. Did
Speaker 1: I know that? Or did I just hope that? I
Speaker 1: don't even know that I knew that. I think you
Speaker 1: hope that along with everyone else maybe, and so, but
Speaker 1: it is, it's it was decide. I mean, it's we've
Speaker 1: all been wanting that and pushing for that for a
Speaker 1: long time. It's not the single right now, there's not that.
Speaker 1: You don't have a single right now? Do you know?
Speaker 1: We haven't had an AD date yet for so, I
Speaker 1: think I was just hoping it. Well, your hopes came true.
Speaker 1: You go just for you. I'm a fan. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of UM and you guys are good, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, man. And so in the land of a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff you get you know when you're
Speaker 1: a band and it's it's rare now, you know, UM
Speaker 1: not a lot of bands. Yeah, yeah, and it's trust me.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm honored to being a band. I'm really happy
Speaker 1: that I'm in a band because it's such a different
Speaker 1: dynamic and it's such a cool dynamic, and it's it's
Speaker 1: and it's a cool dynamic to bring to country music.
Speaker 1: That You're right, there's not a lot of so I'm
Speaker 1: I'm proud of being a band. Every fifth fought with
Speaker 1: anyone in the band. No, we there's been at some
Speaker 1: definite you know, confrontations that needs to be though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a relationship, it's like a marriage, absolutely, and that's
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we actually there was a time.
Speaker 1: It's funny, Yeah, you got the infatuation stage. Then you
Speaker 1: go to that stage where everyone's getting on your nerves.
Speaker 1: And when you work through that and you learn how
Speaker 1: what kind of how everyone ticks and what everyone's strengths
Speaker 1: and weaknesses are, then you kind of learned what buttons
Speaker 1: not to push. And and if someone says something that
Speaker 1: maybe a few years ago you would have like reacted
Speaker 1: to and picked a fight, you're like, you know, that's
Speaker 1: just the way, that's how he said, that's how he
Speaker 1: handles that. Or or if someone handles the situation a
Speaker 1: certain way that you do not agree with or you
Speaker 1: would not do it that way, you kind of understandable
Speaker 1: that's how they are, and you come to terms with that.
Speaker 1: I think that also there was strength we have and
Speaker 1: one reason that five guys we could stick together for
Speaker 1: so long. We do all have very different personalities we have,
Speaker 1: I mean, all five of us. If they were all
Speaker 1: guys like me, I think we would kill each other.
Speaker 1: If they were all guys like Trip. Yeah, they're all
Speaker 1: guys like Chandler. I don't know if they would kill
Speaker 1: each other. They might just like never talk to each other.
Speaker 1: He's the quiet, passive one. Have you seen all four
Speaker 1: of the other guys naked? Uh, like totally naked, it's
Speaker 1: just naked. Have you seen all of their genitalia? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Who you gonna tell you? Have you
Speaker 1: not seen? Uh? Jared work on that and Eric? So
Speaker 1: you all work on that tonight. Actually just I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, we're on the we're on a lot. I've
Speaker 1: seen that's balls as part of it. You're just going
Speaker 1: to close. Sorry, You're just in places you're tight and changing,
Speaker 1: you see. We like to keep some mystery. That's the thing. Like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want to We're gonna be together long time,
Speaker 1: so we don't want to give it all the way
Speaker 1: too early. That funny. Well, listen, good luck to you guys. Man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming by the house. Thank you. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. Man. Look, we kind of know each other,
Speaker 1: but not well enough to where like I'm pretty much
Speaker 1: a stranger coming over your house. So thank you for
Speaker 1: inviting me, because I did peek in your bedroom and
Speaker 1: I could be totally crazy. Still anything wrong. You've got
Speaker 1: some nice guitars, I mean like they're tempting. You do
Speaker 1: have nice guitars. Man. Thanks, I've been I've been lucky.
Speaker 1: I've I've got some cool some cool signed ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're left handed, though, I have some cool ones that
Speaker 1: I pulled. Yeah. It's what sucks for me is I'm
Speaker 1: left handed and I can't play anybody else's guitar. And
Speaker 1: that sucks because if I'm like, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: play something, I can't. Yeah. But what sucks for everybody
Speaker 1: else has they come over and I don't have any
Speaker 1: right hand of guitars. Yeah, I saw the guitar downstairs
Speaker 1: about picking up. I was like, oh, never mind, it's
Speaker 1: like it's they're wrong. Yeah, So yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean who who else plays left handed? Uh? Hendrick, but
Speaker 1: he played the Stranger still flip yeah, so um Maddie
Speaker 1: and Tay Tay plays left handed. Chase Bryant plays left handed?
Speaker 1: Who else? Might say, Kurt ba We're very similar curtain
Speaker 1: I are, yeah, pretty much the same thing. Does Paul
Speaker 1: McCartney play the bass left hand? He'd right? He Does
Speaker 1: you ever read? You ever see it? Like in read?
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of music you like, like
Speaker 1: just you um, but you ever like study the Beatles?
Speaker 1: And now they would have played like six hours a
Speaker 1: night in Germany. Oh yeah, yeah, they would play for
Speaker 1: hours night. And I I saw one thing where this
Speaker 1: manager came out early on to see them play and
Speaker 1: passed on him. He's either manager or someone that wanted
Speaker 1: to sign them and passed on him because he was
Speaker 1: like this whole electric guitar thing is a phase and
Speaker 1: big band music is a coming back. And it's like,
Speaker 1: man to be that guy and think you missed out
Speaker 1: on the Beatles. You know, everybody though, the biggest act
Speaker 1: were all passed on at some point, and it's Luke
Speaker 1: was passed on. I mean everybody, everybody was paying. Everybody
Speaker 1: had failed singles like, yeah, I've talked to Luke many times,
Speaker 1: even off the year. Um, Luke and I are friendly.
Speaker 1: Off there would say it's a friend, but we're friendly.
Speaker 1: There's there are stages with me. I try to stay
Speaker 1: away from artists like personal so I can be objective
Speaker 1: and say things like long list tonight was just fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, well, no matter what, I still want you
Speaker 1: to say that if a song is fine, I want
Speaker 1: you to say, no matter how good friends we become,
Speaker 1: if we have a fine song, please say it's fine,
Speaker 1: because we need honesty. I would just not say anything
Speaker 1: that would be that would be like, no, say it's fine. Man.
Speaker 1: So with if Luke at failed single, it's like crazy,
Speaker 1: like crazy, and he and people pass on on like crazy.
Speaker 1: So my point was I have no point. Let's do
Speaker 1: this quickly. Take everyone out of country music from your
Speaker 1: answer that you're not allowed to answer anything country. Okay,
Speaker 1: So three artists that you love that aren't country that
Speaker 1: are alive right now? We alive? Um, do you know
Speaker 1: Jason Isabel with that countess country? You can say whatever
Speaker 1: you want. There's not a referee here. I would say, okay,
Speaker 1: well you said not countries. But he's kind of but
Speaker 1: he's like in that folk American. I would say it's American.
Speaker 1: We love Jason Isabel uh seeing him a couple of times.
Speaker 1: The rhyman um Ryan Adams uh art, you're an art, dude.
Speaker 1: I like Ryan Adams is pure art. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's an art. And you love them or you're you
Speaker 1: don't get it, and sometimes I don't. Sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: get Ryan Adams, but sometimes I love it. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing with me. It's like as long
Speaker 1: as even with artists like that, there are things I
Speaker 1: don't get either, but you're more forgiving when you really
Speaker 1: love them. As an artist, You're like, that's not speaking
Speaker 1: to me, But I know that this artist has the
Speaker 1: ability to as opposed to just act where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like some of those songs, and if there's not
Speaker 1: a song you like, then you're done. You're like, whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't like that song. It's also the people that
Speaker 1: take chances I admire in respect even if I don't
Speaker 1: like the chance they took. Yeah, yeah, totally absolutely, And
Speaker 1: you know who as an artist and I want one
Speaker 1: more before I before I want to I mean, another
Speaker 1: artist is not in country that you're like, Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: you know I like cold Play. I've seen them freaking awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they they're that's one, you know, Ryan Adams, Jason's
Speaker 1: Bow are more. Yeah, they're more artsy and more you know,
Speaker 1: kind of more. Cold Play was artsy though when they
Speaker 1: came out super arts. So I love cold Plays combination
Speaker 1: of the arts, nois and the authenticity, but also their
Speaker 1: live show is what I would want out of the
Speaker 1: live show. And they're so I mean, they're so entertaining
Speaker 1: and so charismatic on stage and so captivating. So those
Speaker 1: would be my three guy called play So good. Yes,
Speaker 1: every part of them is so good. Like Chris Martin's
Speaker 1: a nut, by the way, and i've met chrismartin a
Speaker 1: couple of times. He's nuts. He's really nice. He's nuts.
Speaker 1: But to be an artist, you're nuts, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: and in our profession you realize that too, that to
Speaker 1: be super creative, you have got to have something inside
Speaker 1: of you that's different than everyone else. And when you're
Speaker 1: different than everyone else, you're different than everyone else, and
Speaker 1: it's tough. And I think that if you're like that,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm just so thankful to be an artist
Speaker 1: because I've always kind of known I was different than
Speaker 1: everyone else. But when you actually it's your job to
Speaker 1: be different everyone else and and you're responsible for it,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of captivating. It's it's freeing from this
Speaker 1: talk here. And I'm I'm going to Mike d for
Speaker 1: his thoughts in a second too. I don't really know
Speaker 1: I was getting into it this. Frankly, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll bring right up and talk to him. Um, but
Speaker 1: I don't like I there's an artist element that I
Speaker 1: respect more about the band now, thank you, than just like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's make a man to put out some songs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can't trick me either, because I'm amazing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you see that the bull crap. Sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is a joke, and that's I'm glad you see that.
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest things we talked about that
Speaker 1: and that's we try and do video series stuff. We
Speaker 1: were to get across the dude. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, don't waste your time with it. Just
Speaker 1: put out good songs and your fans will then find
Speaker 1: it and then everyone like Coldplay. Do you think people
Speaker 1: knew it first, it took years first to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Don't focus on that because nobody cares. Also, nobody cares,
Speaker 1: like really nobody cares. Man give them a song, they
Speaker 1: find the song, they learn more about you, give them
Speaker 1: another song they learned. Then you have fans like real
Speaker 1: and we've accepted, we've accepted, you know what what our
Speaker 1: path is and what we're trying to do. It's gonna
Speaker 1: take time. It's gonna take work because it is it is.
Speaker 1: It's you have a relationship with your fans, and there's
Speaker 1: that first stage with the first singles, connect the first date.
Speaker 1: Then you know, if you have a hit, that's kind
Speaker 1: of like and you just keep moving along. And it
Speaker 1: takes an album or two for people to really understand
Speaker 1: and really I mean and I think artists keep evolving
Speaker 1: and it really is relationship with fans, and but it
Speaker 1: takes a while. I think when you take that app
Speaker 1: that does take off for people to figure out who
Speaker 1: you are and then people really love who you are
Speaker 1: and stay with you. But if you do that, I
Speaker 1: think that then there's more longevity because your fans that
Speaker 1: are not just like oh I love that song, it's cool,
Speaker 1: it's catchy, it's I really love Land, I appreciate them.
Speaker 1: I like to work, you know whatever it is, um,
Speaker 1: but it's gotta start with just Yeah, you're right. Put
Speaker 1: out some songs. People like them to listen, and nobody
Speaker 1: fell in love with could play because of their art.
Speaker 1: They fell in love with Yellow was freaking off exactly.
Speaker 1: You gotta trust me. I know you gotta have a hit.
Speaker 1: I mean that's just that's you gotta have it. It's
Speaker 1: the name. Uh, we're run out of time. But who's
Speaker 1: in your class of artists? Not classes and good or bad?
Speaker 1: But you guys kind of came into this earth together
Speaker 1: of music, signing at the same time, like a few
Speaker 1: artists could they could have many hits and them. But
Speaker 1: who do you consider to be in your class? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Maren she signed like right around the same
Speaker 1: time we did. Now she has just exploded. She's coming
Speaker 1: in next week. Yeah, she's she's awesome. Signed. You never
Speaker 1: heard her? She she signed at the same time. But
Speaker 1: I would I mean we signed and then we took
Speaker 1: a while to actually get things. Give me some answers,
Speaker 1: same class, Maren Ryan, I would consider Ryan heard, Kane Brown,
Speaker 1: Jordan reagor uh, like Brooke Eden. I'm thinking people that
Speaker 1: were like on radio to the same time. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm asking for. So in five years we're gonna
Speaker 1: be like we were in the same because all the
Speaker 1: guys are in different class. You know that the Cole
Speaker 1: and Tyler Farrs that you know, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys that kind of came up together. The
Speaker 1: thing that I was talking about earlier, I just want
Speaker 1: to mention this before we get off of this, is
Speaker 1: that when I was talking about artists, what I appreciate
Speaker 1: is people that go and take chances and being okay
Speaker 1: with failure as long as they took the shot that
Speaker 1: felt good and felt right to them. Didn't listen to
Speaker 1: a lot of people going, hey, this isn't gonna work
Speaker 1: on the radio. And who's done that recently and without
Speaker 1: commercial success to this point is Aubrey Sellers. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of her record. Yeah, I've never
Speaker 1: I've never maybe i've seen her, I have that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if i've seen her. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: sen a live, but I love a record because nobody
Speaker 1: else it's it's a full like country, blue grassy blues record.
Speaker 1: They're no acoustics, no doubt about it. It's a country record,
Speaker 1: but itunds like nothing else. And you know what, it
Speaker 1: could fall on its face and no way goodbye, or
Speaker 1: it could really switch up an entire format. It's that
Speaker 1: kind of thing totally. The fact that she puts herself
Speaker 1: out there to fail makes me love it. I love failure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. It's it's just and it's more
Speaker 1: interesting than just someone who even if it works, it's
Speaker 1: like that you just don't want to be a carbon
Speaker 1: copy of something. You don't want to be like so
Speaker 1: and so Junior. You know, if there's a floor, you
Speaker 1: don't want to be Florger's line, Junior L. We definitely
Speaker 1: definitely don't want Flora Georgia line first, like please, God,
Speaker 1: go ahead. That's I think as an artist, if you're
Speaker 1: an artist, it's like you want to work and you
Speaker 1: want to be successful. Yes, you want everyone to love
Speaker 1: you know who you are, But if you're gonna do
Speaker 1: what you wanted to be because your original and you
Speaker 1: offered something that other people weren't offering and so yeah,
Speaker 1: and Aubruys Sellers absolutely does that. I have decided you
Speaker 1: are that Chris Martin country music to this right, I'll
Speaker 1: take it a little weird. You can sing, you're passionate
Speaker 1: about it, like it all right. Good to see man,
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Thank you so much for having
Speaker 1: me in you download American Love Story down. Download it.
Speaker 1: He's in those streams. That's that's all. It's like Facebook,
Speaker 1: those metrics full of Craphy. But I'm glad you have
Speaker 1: much streams it right, Okay, downloaded. That's where the key is.
Speaker 1: I agree downloading. If you love an artist, download their
Speaker 1: music because I agree those real money. You know, you
Speaker 1: guys gotta eat, Yeah, you gotta eat, and you gotta
Speaker 1: have money for the next record. And oh it's like
Speaker 1: it's fifty million stray. Yeah all right. Any questions you've
Speaker 1: you've been listening for? How long after that first meeting
Speaker 1: with Jay did you quit your Bridge Stone job? Um?
Speaker 1: A few months? Uh? Well I quit when he finally
Speaker 1: I started writing with him and some other people for
Speaker 1: a few months and then he said, hey, you guys
Speaker 1: ready to come in here and make a record next week.
Speaker 1: That was how much notice we had. We were like sure,
Speaker 1: Like how a I'm gonna be in the studios, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll stay in here until it's done. But
Speaker 1: two weeks, three weeks, so we all kind of could.
Speaker 1: You can't ask for three weeks off work. We all
Speaker 1: kind of lost our jobs after that. That's why you
Speaker 1: have you have those jobs. You can lose them. What
Speaker 1: were you making a bridge stone? Working at that? Like say, uh,
Speaker 1: seven eight bucks an hour and free hot dogs you
Speaker 1: got the end of the night there and yeah, and
Speaker 1: I know you got one free hot dog when I
Speaker 1: you wanted. And in the night after they counted what
Speaker 1: you didn't sell, you could have a burger. Whatever you
Speaker 1: didn't sell was well, it wasn't really fair game, but
Speaker 1: it kind of was you know what I mean? What
Speaker 1: are they gonna do with it? Yea? And by law
Speaker 1: they can't donate it. Yeah, they have to throw it out.
Speaker 1: They donated to me. Yeah, you'rely got donation, Mike. One
Speaker 1: more question is anything else you want to ask? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about it? You go, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I think this guy's he can't hear us? You think
Speaker 1: there's full of crabbing. I'm gonna put him back there, Okay,
Speaker 1: put it back up. Yeah, Uh, good to see you.
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Speaker 1: I like you guys, Thank you man, but I'm only
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