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Speaker 3: Yeah, the screenshots of the texts are included in this

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Speaker 13: Right, And I'll talk operational. We've talked about this before, Steve.

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Speaker 13: Big Tapper, MSNBC Intel Committees, Natasha Bertrand, this is an

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Speaker 15: maintains ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and UAVs, including systems capable

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Speaker 15: of striking US targets and allies in the region. They've

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Speaker 15: shown a willingness to use these weapons including during a

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Speaker 15: twenty twenty attack on US forces in Iraq and in

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Speaker 15: attacks against Israel in April and October twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 15: Iran's cyber operations and capabilities also present a serious threat

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Speaker 15: to US networks and data. The IC continues to assess

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Speaker 15: that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon, and Supreme

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Speaker 15: Leader Kamani has not authorized the nuclear weapons program that

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Speaker 15: he suspended in two thousand and three. We continue to

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Speaker 15: monitor closely if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program.

447
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Speaker 15: In the past year, we've seen an erosion of a

448
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Speaker 15: decade long taboo in Iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public,

449
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Speaker 15: likely emboldening nuclear weapons advocates within Iran's decision making apparatus.

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Speaker 15: Iran's enriched uranium stockpile is at its highest levels and

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Speaker 15: is unprecedented for a state without nuclear weapons. Iran will

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Speaker 15: likely continue efforts to counter Israel and press for US

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Speaker 15: military withdrawal from the region by aiding, arming, and helping

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Speaker 15: to reconstitute its loose consortium of like minded terrorists actors,

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Speaker 15: which it refers to as its axis of resistance. Although weakened,

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Speaker 15: this collection of actors still presents a wide range of threats,

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Speaker 15: including to Israel's population, US forces deployed in Iraq and Syria,

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Speaker 15: as well as US and international military and commercial shipping

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Speaker 15: and transit. North Korean leader Kim Jong own is pursuing

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Speaker 15: strong strategic and conventional capabilities that can target US forces

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Speaker 15: and allies in the region, as well as the US homeland,

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Speaker 15: to bolster North Korea's leverage and stature, defend its regime,

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Speaker 15: and achieve at least tacit recognition as a nuclear weapons power.

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Speaker 15: Kim's recently cemented strategic partnership with Russia supports these goals

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Speaker 15: by providing him with greater financial, military, and diplomatic support,

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Speaker 15: reducing its reliance on China, and providing North Korean forces

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Speaker 15: and weapons systems with war fighting experience. Kim views his

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Speaker 15: strategic weapons advances, its deepening ties with Russia, and its

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Speaker 15: economic durability, as strengthening his negotiating position against Washington's demands

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Speaker 15: for denuclearization and lessening Kim's need for sanctions relief. Since

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Speaker 15: twenty twenty two, China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea have

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Speaker 15: grown closer. Removing the accelerant of the war in Ukraine

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Speaker 15: is unlikely to revert these bilateral relationships to a pre

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Speaker 15: war twenty twenty one baseline, leaving room for new strategic

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Speaker 15: priorities in world events to create new incentives or challenges

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Speaker 15: to their expanded cooperation. Russia has been a catalyst for

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Speaker 15: much of this expansion, driven heavily by the support it

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Speaker 15: has needed for its war against Ukraine, including protection from

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Speaker 15: US and Western sanctions. In addition to exchange of military

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Speaker 15: and other resource capabilities with North Korea, Russia has relied

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Speaker 15: more heavily on China's financial and defense industry backing, and

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Speaker 15: has increased combined military exercises with China. With Iran, Russia's

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Speaker 15: also expanded financial ties to mitigate sanctions. Iran has become

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Speaker 15: a critical military supplier to Russia, especially of UAVs, in

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Speaker 15: exchange for Russian technical support for Iranian weapons, intelligence, and

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Speaker 15: advanced cyber capabilities.

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Speaker 12: The threats that.

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Speaker 15: We see to the US to US national security are

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Speaker 15: both complex and multifaceted. In closing, I want to address

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Speaker 15: briefly the signal chat issue that I know many of

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Speaker 15: you are concerned about. The President and National Security Advisor

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Speaker 15: Waltz held a press conference yesterday with a clear message.

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Speaker 15: It was a mistake that a reporter was inadvertently added

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Speaker 15: to a Signal chat with high level national security principles

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Speaker 15: having a policy discussion about imminent strikes against the Huthis

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Speaker 15: and the effects of the strike. National Security Advisor has

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Speaker 15: taken full responsibility for this and the National Security Council

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Speaker 15: is conducting an in depth review along with technical experts

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Speaker 15: working to determine how this reporter was inadvertently added to

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Speaker 15: this chat. The conversation was candid and sensitive, but as

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Speaker 15: the President National Security Advisor stated, no classified.

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Speaker 2: Information was shared.

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Speaker 15: There were no sources, methods, locations, or war plans that

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Speaker 15: were shared. This was a standard update to the National

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Speaker 15: Security Cabinet that was provided alongside updates that were given

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Speaker 15: to foreign partners in the region. The Signal Message app

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Speaker 15: comes pre installed on government devices. In December of twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty four, CISUS stated quote, we strongly urge highly targeted

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Speaker 15: individuals to immediately review and apply best practices provided in

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Speaker 15: the Guidance to Protect Mobile communications, including consistent use of

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Speaker 15: end to end encryption, and they named Signal as an

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Speaker 15: app as an example of such an end to end

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Speaker 15: encrypted messaging app. Ideally, these conversations occur in person. However,

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Speaker 15: at times, fast moving coordination of an unclassified nature is

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Speaker 15: necessary where in person conversation is not an option.

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Speaker 2: I'm also aware that a.

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Speaker 15: Suit was a lawsuit was filed yesterday on this issue.

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Speaker 15: As a result of that pending litigation, I'm limited in

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Speaker 15: my ability to comment further on that specific case. My

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Speaker 15: Office of General Counsel will be in close contact with

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Speaker 15: the Department of Justice on this matter.

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Speaker 2: The most important.

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Speaker 15: Thing to the American people and to all of us

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Speaker 15: is the success of this military operation against terrorists who

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Speaker 15: have been and continue to attack American service members was

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Speaker 15: extremely successful thanks to the leadership of President Trump and

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Speaker 15: the actions of our brave men and women in uniform.

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Speaker 2: As the heads of.

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Speaker 15: The American People's intelligence community, we will continue to provide

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Speaker 15: the President, you in Congress, and our war fighters with timely, unbiased,

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Speaker 15: relevant intelligence to keep our country secure, free, prosperous, and

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Speaker 15: at peace. Thank you, mister Chairman.

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Speaker 9: Thank you Director Gatt Gabbard. We now turn to you,

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Speaker 9: remember questions. I'll recognize myself for five minutes. I want

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Speaker 9: to talk about before I get into the threats, I

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00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 9: want to talk about something we've talked about in this

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Speaker 9: committee in this setting before, we've had ic agency leaders

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Speaker 9: commit to complying with our document requests but not follow through.

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Speaker 9: And I don't know if this is due to direction

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Speaker 9: from previous administration or middle management obstruction, but I find it.

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Speaker 8: You can split screen it. Okay, we're going to be

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00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 8: calling a lot of audibles mtgs over also grilling PBS.

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Speaker 8: She's on the DOJ Oversight committee. Right there, here's the news,

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Speaker 8: Telsea Gabbert. I don't know double down, triple down makes

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Speaker 8: the case for the signal app She did say at

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Speaker 8: the time at she broke some news there, her legal

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Speaker 8: counsel is in touch with the Department of Justice. One

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Speaker 8: of the things we've warned about yesterday and why we

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Speaker 8: felt it was very important to it was very important

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Speaker 8: to make sure that this thing did not merge with

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Speaker 8: the radical judges over the Washington d C. What they

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Speaker 8: want to do is put the administration in a vice

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Speaker 8: gript or have an anvil and a hammer. Think of

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Speaker 8: the radical judges, particularly in the DC Court led by Boseburg,

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Speaker 8: that district court, which he's the head judge of the

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Speaker 8: district court, not the appellate the district Court. You've seen

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Speaker 8: how radically has been the administration had to had to

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Speaker 8: invoke the State Secrets Act on the deportation of the

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Speaker 8: And by the way, let me know when we go

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Speaker 8: back to the Democrat I'm going to produce live here

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Speaker 8: as soon as we go back. We want these Democrats.

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Speaker 8: We want to hear the snarky questions they're asking our

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Speaker 8: intelligence community, the intelligence heads. We're going to go back

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Speaker 8: to Radcliffe.

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Speaker 12: In a moment.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't mean to said that there. They follow suit

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Speaker 8: last night's civil suit. It's supposed to be totally random.

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Speaker 8: How the judge is supposed to put it in and

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Speaker 8: just spin a wheel random Boseburg get gets the call

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Speaker 8: and they're going to go in for an emergency. Hearing

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Speaker 8: you this afternonmorrow. It's a total set up. It's a

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Speaker 8: total setup. Boseburg, who's in the middle now we're at

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Speaker 8: a pellic court even get him removed, right he is,

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Speaker 8: he has the commander in chief and I say, says,

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Speaker 8: had to invoke the State Secrets Act because he's one

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Speaker 8: to gets he wants to get details of a military

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Speaker 8: operation to remove criminal terrorists from the United States, of

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Speaker 8: which two thirds the American people back back back to president,

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Speaker 8: back to the commander in chief by a two to

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Speaker 8: one margin right now in Rasmus and polling, people support

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Speaker 8: the fact of trying to impeach at judge, which Mike

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Speaker 8: Davison War Room have strongly recommended to the Judiciary Committee.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, if you're on your bill blast

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Speaker 8: day or Article three, make sure you go to the

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Speaker 8: Judicial commit Judiciary head by Jim Jordan, and Hey, I

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Speaker 8: want to step up the volume on this big leg.

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Speaker 8: Let's go back in here. Let's go back to the

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Speaker 8: committee right now and hear what's here, what's going on.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna dip in and out.

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Speaker 15: The continue viewed competition, encroachment and investments that are occurring

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Speaker 15: in the Western Hemisphere have rapidly increased and continue to

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Speaker 15: pose a threat both to our economic interests and to

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Speaker 15: our security. Every day there are new reports of further attempts.

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Speaker 15: One just recently that came up yesterday with investments that

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Speaker 15: are being made in the southeast part of the United States. Again,

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Speaker 15: I'll go into this further in a closed setting, but

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Speaker 15: the intelligence assessments that we are receiving are being shared

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Speaker 15: with senior cabinet officials, Department of Energy, Commerce, Treasury, those

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Speaker 15: who are working alongside us do not only monitor, but

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Speaker 15: to determine the best policies that will protect our interests.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I want to turn the director ptail real quick in

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Speaker 9: the time that I have left, if you can flesh

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Speaker 9: this out for me just a little bit. You indicated

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Speaker 9: something that caught my attention in the proceeding yes day,

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Speaker 9: and that was your involvement with the Judicial Drug Task

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Speaker 9: Force that you partner with at the state level and

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Speaker 9: how that has yielded positive results with regard to cartel activity.

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Speaker 9: Can you put a little finer point on that to

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Speaker 9: describe those partnerships in the fifty three seconds we have remaining.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'll try to rebrief, mister chairman, Mister Vice chairman,

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Speaker 16: thanks for having us ranking member. My priorities at the

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Speaker 16: FBI have been to partner with state and local law

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Speaker 16: enforcement in ways that we have not done so before,

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Speaker 16: particularly on information sharing. And it's a two way street.

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Speaker 16: And in order for us to effectuate drug seizures and

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Speaker 16: narcotics and addictions in the fifty States, we treat them

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Speaker 16: as all border states because that's what's happening. We have

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Speaker 16: an American citizen die of a drug overdose every seven minutes.

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Speaker 16: That is wildly out of control and unacceptable. But the

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Speaker 16: FBI cannot do that mandate and secure the American people

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Speaker 16: from Washington, DC. So we're putting resources in the field.

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Speaker 16: We were working with our partners at the state and

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Speaker 16: local level, and we are seeing immediate results as we

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Speaker 16: are seeing in Arkansas. I outlined yesterday with hundreds of arrests,

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Speaker 16: of pounds of narcotic sees, dozens of weapons, and multiple indictments.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Director.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to yield and recognize Franky Memberheims for five minutes.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Mister Chairman.

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Speaker 11: If there's something I care as much about as the

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Speaker 11: national security United States, it's the powers and prerogatives of

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Speaker 11: this Congress in its oversight duties. So I want to

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Speaker 11: spend a minute or so on yesterday's testimony in front

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Speaker 11: of the Senate and direct these questions, in particular to

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Speaker 11: Director Patel and Director Gabbard. Yesterday, Senator Heinrich asked, did

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Speaker 11: this conversation referring to the signal chat include information on weapons, packages, targets,

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00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 11: or timing. Director Patel, you said not that I'm aware of.

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00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 11: Director Gabbart, you said same answer. This morning, we learn

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Speaker 11: that the signal chat included the following update forward looking

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Speaker 11: update from the Secretary of Defense time now eleven forty

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Speaker 11: four Eastern time. Whether it's favorable. Just confirmed with Sencom.

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Speaker 11: We are go for mission lawaunched twelve fifteen Eastern time.

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Speaker 11: F eighteen launch first Strike Package thirteen forty five trigger

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Speaker 11: based F eighteen first strike window starts target terrorists.

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Speaker 12: Is at his known location, so should be on time.

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Speaker 11: Also strike drones launch MQ nine's fourteen ten more F

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Speaker 11: eighteen's launch second Strike package. Do either of the directors

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Speaker 11: want to reflect on their testimony yesterday in the context

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Speaker 11: of what I just read?

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Speaker 16: Sure, One, I was not on that signal chat. Two,

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Speaker 16: I have not reviewed it. And three, as you just indicated,

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Speaker 16: that was made public this morning.

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Speaker 11: But Director, you didn't prior to yesterday. St Senate, you

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Speaker 11: were on this. You were on the signal chat?

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Speaker 12: Correct?

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Speaker 11: No, okay, But did you did you review the material

657
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Speaker 11: on the signal chat?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 12: I wasn't on it, Director Gabbard.

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Speaker 15: Yes, Ranking Member. My answer yesterday was based on my

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Speaker 15: recollection or the lack thereof, on the details that were

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Speaker 15: posted there. I was not, And what was shared today

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Speaker 15: reflects the fact that I was directly involved with that

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Speaker 15: part of the signal chat and replied at the end

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Speaker 15: reflecting the effects, the very brief effects that the National

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Speaker 15: Security Advisor had shared.

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Speaker 11: So it's your testimony that less than two weeks ago

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Speaker 11: you were on a signal chat that had all of

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Speaker 11: this information about faighteen's and MQ nine reapers and targets

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Speaker 11: on strike, and you, in that two week period simply

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Speaker 11: forgot that that was there.

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Speaker 12: That's your testimony.

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Speaker 15: My testimony is I did not recall the exact details

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Speaker 15: of what was included there.

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Speaker 12: That was not your testimony.

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Speaker 11: Your ten testimony was that you were not aware of

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Speaker 11: anything related to weapons, packages, targets, and timing.

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Speaker 15: As the testimony yesterday continued on, there were further questions

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Speaker 15: related to that where I acknowledged that there was a

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Speaker 15: conversation about weapons, and I don't remember the exact wording

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Speaker 15: that I used, but I did not recall the specific

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Speaker 15: details that were included.

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Speaker 11: Director Gabbard, we've you've reasserted that there was no classified information.

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Speaker 11: I think we can all agree that that information shouldn't

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Speaker 11: have been out there. But let me ask you this,

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Speaker 11: are you familiar with the odni's classification guidance.

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Speaker 12: I'm familiar, actually got a copy right here.

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Speaker 11: If I read you a part of that guidance, I

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Speaker 11: wonder if you could tell me what the level of

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Speaker 11: classification indicated is. I'm reading from your classification guidance, and

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Speaker 11: the criteria is information providing indication or advanced warning that

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Speaker 11: the US or its allies are preparing an attack. Do

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Speaker 11: you recall what your own guidance would suggest that that

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Speaker 11: be classified.

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Speaker 15: I don't have the specifics in front of me, but

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Speaker 15: it would point to what was shared would fall under

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Speaker 15: the DoD's classification system, and the Secretary of Defenses.

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Speaker 12: Let me help you. Very clear answer is you don't.

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00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 12: I guess you don't have.

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Speaker 11: But information providing in this is the OD and I guidance,

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Speaker 11: information providing indication or advance warning that the US or

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Speaker 11: its allies are preparing an attack should be classified as

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Speaker 11: top secret.

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Speaker 12: Do you disagree with that?

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Speaker 15: I don't disagree with that. I just point out that

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Speaker 15: the DoD classification guidance is separate from the ODE and

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Speaker 15: i's classification guidance. You think it would ultimately the Secretary

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Speaker 15: of Defense holds the authority to classify or declassify.

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Speaker 11: Do you think it's likely that DoD guidance is materially

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Speaker 11: different from what I just read.

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Speaker 15: I haven't reviewed the DoD guidance, so I can't comment.

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Speaker 11: Director Gabbard, A lot of this suggests sort of a

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Speaker 11: lack of sobriety. When there's punch emojis and fire emojis,

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Speaker 11: it's a lack of sobriety. I don't mean that literally,

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Speaker 11: but I have one last question for you, because I

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Speaker 11: think people really listen to what you have to say.

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Speaker 11: You On March fifteenth, as D and I retweeted retweeted

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Speaker 11: from Ian Miles Chong, who is listed on RT That's

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Speaker 11: Russia Today's website as quote a political and cultural commentator

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Speaker 11: who has contributed content to RT since at least twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty two. Director Gobber, do you think that it's responsible

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Speaker 11: for you, as head of the intelligence community and the

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Speaker 11: principal's presidential intelligence advisor, to retweet posts from individuals affiliated

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Speaker 11: with Russian state media?

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Speaker 15: That retweet came from my personal account, and I would

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Speaker 15: have to go back to look at the substance of

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Speaker 15: the tweet.

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Speaker 11: Can I just a lack just so that we don't

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Speaker 11: have a lack of confusion amongst our allies and enemies

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Speaker 11: and US can I act perhaps that you not think

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Speaker 11: that you should be saying one thing on your personal account.

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Speaker 15: Then you say, officially, I maintain my first rights to

733
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Speaker 15: be able to express my own personal views on different issues.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I yield BECKISTRM Chinman yields, and I recognize the Distinguished

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Speaker 9: Vice Chairman General Kelly.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I'm now for the first thirty seconds, mister Ratcliffe or

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Speaker 6: Director Ratcliffe formerly known as Texas from this Mississippi guy,

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Speaker 6: I'd like to give you thirty seconds if you have

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Speaker 6: anything to respond to what Miss Gaver just Director Gavitt,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, just said.

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Speaker 5: Well, Mississippi, it is good to see you again, and

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Speaker 5: I appreciate the opportunity. You know, there's so much talk

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Speaker 5: about this Atlantic article and about things that were said

746
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Speaker 5: and that could have happened, instead of a focus on

747
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 5: what did happen. So my responsibility as CIA director, one

748
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 5: of its responsibilities is to kill terrorists, and that's exactly

749
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Speaker 5: what I did along with President Trump's excellent national security team.

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Speaker 5: That's what we should be focused on with regard to

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Speaker 5: that article. I also would appreciate the opportunity to relay

752
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Speaker 5: the fact that yesterday, I spent four hours answering questions

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Speaker 5: from senators as a result of that article that were

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Speaker 5: intimating that I transmitted classified information because there were hidden messages.

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Speaker 5: Those messages were revealed today and revealed that I did

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Speaker 5: not transmit classified information, and that the reporter, who I

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00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 5: don't know, I think, intentionally intended it to indicate that.

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Speaker 5: That reporter also indicated that I had released the name

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Speaker 5: of an undercover CIA operative in that signal chat. In fact,

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Speaker 5: I had released the name of my chief of staff,

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Speaker 5: who is not operating undercover. That was deliberately false and misleading,

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Speaker 5: and I appreciate the opportunity to reflect that my answers

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Speaker 5: haven't changed. I used an appropriate channel to communicate sensitive

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Speaker 5: information it was permissible to do so. I didn't try

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Speaker 5: for any classified information. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: what is most important is that the mission was a

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Speaker 5: remarkable success. Is what everyone should be focused on here,

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Speaker 5: because that's what did happen, not what possibly could have happened.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Director Radcliffe, Director of PATAEL, thank you for

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Speaker 6: the great job that you've done so first of all,

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Speaker 6: your coordination and trying to comply with the letter that

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Speaker 6: was sent last year and the year before asking for

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Speaker 6: the baseball shooting, of which yaw, what I got was

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Speaker 6: basically what happened on the field, and I was there,

775
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Speaker 6: so I don't need to know that although no one

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00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 6: from the FBI ever talked to me about what happened,

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00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 6: they talked to people who were not there. But I

778
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 6: appreciate your commitment to getting us the full unredacted report

779
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 6: or the redactions are to protect innocent people who are

780
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 6: not part of the process, not the people who made

781
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 6: decisions to classify that as suicide by cop as opposed

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00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 6: to an assassination attempt of many members of Congress, of

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Speaker 6: which I was one. Thank you for your commitment, Director

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Speaker 6: of PATL, because I know that you will give us

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Speaker 6: what we have asked for so that we can put

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00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: this to rest. Mister Winstrup, myself and several others. Can

787
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Speaker 6: I get your commitment to do that, Director of PATIL.

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Speaker 16: In fact, I just got an update mister Rice, chairman

789
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Speaker 16: for my team. You'll have all of those materials to

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Speaker 16: you and your committee by the close of business today

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Speaker 16: or at the latest tomorrow morning, and.

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Speaker 6: Just really quickly, Director Ratcliffe, and I don't want to

793
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 6: go over time I think it's so important for everybody

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Speaker 6: to have their time. Can you tell me the impact

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00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 6: that DOOSE has had in causing you to fire people

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00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 6: you shouldn't have fired, or release people who are instruments

797
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 6: of national security no longer there. Tell me if you've

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00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 6: had any impact specifically that DOZE has caused you to

799
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: lose someone who is necessary for national security.

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Speaker 5: Given the fact that as of this date, no one

801
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: from DOGE has been on the CIA campus and I've

802
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 5: had no direct communication with DOGE other than conversations with

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00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: Elon Muskett cabinet meetings, I would say the impact is zero.

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00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 16: Director Ptail, I'm in a similar situation. We do work

805
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 16: with DOGE on government efficiencies, but I have not seen

806
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 16: any negative impacts at the FBI.

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00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, and Director Gabbert, it's good to

808
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 6: see you again too. You know, I think we were

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00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 6: freshmen together, you and I and Director Ratcliffe, and I'm

810
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 6: here and you guys are there. Have you seen any

811
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 6: impact across the whole I see that DOE just caused

812
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 6: things that you can't respond to.

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00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 15: Thank you, Congressman, it's great to see you all again here.

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00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 15: The answer is no. Similar with the Director Ratcliffe. Doge

815
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 15: has not been at OD and I, the President understands

816
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 15: the essential NASA National Security mission that we have, and

817
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 15: we are going through our own internal assessments to ensure

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00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 15: we're achieving the effects in an efficient way that is

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00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 15: responsible to the American taxpayer.

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Speaker 6: Ye'll back, mister Chairman.

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Speaker 10: Gentlemen yields.

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Speaker 12: Mister Carson, Thank.

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Speaker 10: You, Chairman.

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Speaker 14: To the witnesses, many of whom I've worked with in

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00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 14: the past, it appears that this year's report omitted any

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Speaker 14: discussion of trends national concerns like global health security, infectious diseases,

827
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 14: in the role of conflict, violence, and political instability play

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00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 14: as drivers of migration, coupled with the administration's cuts to

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Speaker 14: USAID and other international assistants, particularly health and humanitarian assistance.

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Speaker 14: Won't these reductions and eliminations increase regional instability and volatility

831
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Speaker 14: in areas already at high risk for threats? Was the

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Speaker 14: IC consulted at all in the decisions to eliminate such

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Speaker 14: critical funding and why weren't these risks included in this

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Speaker 14: year's report?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the question. Congress.

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Speaker 8: Weve mtgs a hearing, get a taste of putting a

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Speaker 8: PBS under the Doge Watch. Let's go to that. We'll

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Speaker 8: come back to.

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Speaker 17: Intelligence compliance and with the FCC's and Koree, and we'll

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Speaker 17: continue to cooperate.

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Speaker 18: I remind you you're under oath and violations of the

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Speaker 18: Communications Act comes with a fine up to ten thousand

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Speaker 18: dollars and possibly up to a year in prison. Does

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Speaker 18: PBS air for for profit commercials?

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00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 8: Mis Kurger?

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Speaker 19: We are underwriting announcements and we believe we are in

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00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 19: full compliance with the FCC and we look forward to

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00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 19: delivering the material required in this part of this investigation.

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Speaker 18: We look forward to that too. I'm assuming you're concerned.

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Speaker 18: Both of you are concerned about this, and that's why

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Speaker 18: you brought so many attorneys with you today, Ms Kerger.

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Speaker 18: Using taxpayer subsidies, PBS funded independent lens to make documentaries

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00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 18: for part of your programming. In twenty sixteen, Real Boy

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00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 18: was aired about a trans team navigating adolescent sobriety and

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Speaker 18: the ramification of his gender identity. In twenty twenty two,

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00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 18: the same series aired Our League, in which a trans

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Speaker 18: woman comes to her old school Ohio bowling league and

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Speaker 18: a story about transition. Then in twenty twenty four, Eracist

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Speaker 18: Trees was aired, telling a story of how in Palm Springs,

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Speaker 18: a black neighborhood fights to remove a divisive wall of trees.

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Speaker 18: Do you think PBS finds needs to fund ridiculous materials

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Speaker 18: such as this that the taxpayers are having to pay for.

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00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 19: These are documentary films that are point of view pieces

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Speaker 19: that are part of our primetime schedule for adults.

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Speaker 18: And parents and adults don't trust that type of programming.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Speaker 20: I ask a unanimous consent to enter into the record

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Speaker 20: this letter from seventy two public radio stations serving rural

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Speaker 20: communities across the country, where they emphasize how important federal

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Speaker 20: funding is to the ability to provide vital public safety.

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Speaker 8: Information without objection.

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Speaker 12: So ordered, Okay.

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Speaker 20: I also have a similar letter from Georgia from the

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Speaker 20: Georgia PBS NPR station, also asking for consideration for.

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Speaker 18: Federal funding without objection, So ordered.

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Speaker 20: Thank you, Ms Kruger and Ms Maher. Can we talk

877
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Speaker 20: a little bit about the educational service you provide for

878
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Speaker 20: children of low income families and how that that is

879
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Speaker 20: received and the trust that you've generated among among families

880
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Speaker 20: in that situation.

881
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Speaker 19: Yes, A significant part of our broadcast day is devoted

882
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Speaker 19: to programming for children. We focus on preschool.

883
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Speaker 18: UH.

884
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Speaker 19: That is goes back to the legacy of Fred Rogers,

885
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Speaker 19: who believed that media could be a tool to help

886
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Speaker 19: to instruct children as well as a tool of entertainment.

887
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Speaker 19: Our programming is focused on core skills that kids need

888
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Speaker 19: to develop before they enter school, in math and in

889
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 19: learning numbers and in learning letters, so that kids that

890
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Speaker 19: don't have the opportunity to be in a formal pre

891
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Speaker 19: K program have a chance to walk into school for

892
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Speaker 19: the first time on equal footing with kids that have

893
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Speaker 19: more opportunity. And that's the heart of what we think

894
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Speaker 19: about in the programming that we develop for kids.

895
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Speaker 20: I know you've done some well. Independent groups have done

896
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Speaker 20: assessments on on trust the trust factor that have UH

897
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Speaker 20: on PBS Kids, which is one of the most popular.

898
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Speaker 10: Services.

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Speaker 20: U can you can you talk about that way?

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Speaker 2: Where did you.

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Speaker 20: Come in in terms of the the you know, the

902
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Speaker 20: the comparison to other stations.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, we are the most trusted media brand.

904
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Speaker 21: In fact.

905
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Speaker 19: Parents magazine this week just run run the results of

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Speaker 19: a study that was done on Daniel Tiger's neighborhood, actually

907
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Speaker 19: looking at sixteen year olds that remember some of the

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Speaker 19: basic skills they learned as small children. And what we're

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Speaker 19: focused on is to make sure again that every child

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Speaker 19: has the opportunity to learn and be excited about the

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Speaker 19: world around them when they enter a school for the

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Speaker 19: first time, and to give them those core basic skills

913
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Speaker 19: that we can see they carry forward in life.

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Speaker 8: Ms.

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Speaker 20: Maher, I'd like you to focus on the work that

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Speaker 20: public media is doing in relation to public safety communications.

917
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Speaker 20: How important is this function of public broadcast media particularly

918
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Speaker 20: I'm talking about the most rural motion remote communities in

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Speaker 20: this country.

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Speaker 17: Thank you so much, Congressman. We are part of the

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Speaker 17: screen national next generation warning system, for which we received

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Speaker 17: a significant investment over the course of the last few years,

923
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Speaker 17: and many thanks to Congress for supporting that appropriation. Our

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Speaker 17: stations are busy implementing that across the nation. We also

925
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Speaker 17: are part of the national sorry excuse me, the statewide

926
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Speaker 17: emergency plans for more than twenty states. You'll see the

927
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Speaker 17: importance and value of public radio in particular when we

928
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Speaker 17: face climate or sorry excuse me, extreme weather.

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Speaker 8: Okay, here we go. We're going to go back to intel.

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Speaker 8: Two things are happening at the same time here today

931
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Speaker 8: there is a hearing on which MTG is running to

932
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Speaker 8: defund PBS and make PBS defend all this transgender and

933
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Speaker 8: basically Marxist cultural ideology they put into little kids' heads

934
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Speaker 8: and PBS not doing a very job. MTG on the

935
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Speaker 8: attack there, she's sharing that subcommittee back at the House

936
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Speaker 8: Intelligence Tulsa Gabbert tripling down, Ratcliffe doubling down, going back

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Speaker 8: to the testimony yesterday said what they said was one

938
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Speaker 8: hundred percent accurate. There's going to be I'm sure some

939
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Speaker 8: fireworks from these Democratic congressmen as they try to chop

940
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Speaker 8: block President Trump's intelligence team. Big news is that the

941
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Speaker 8: courts are getting involved. Boseburg is taking on a civil

942
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Speaker 8: suit against Pete Hegseath. He's put himself right in the

943
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Speaker 8: middle of this, as we said he would. They're going

944
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Speaker 8: to use the federal courts as the anvil. The deep

945
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Speaker 8: State's going to be the hammer. That's our President Trump

946
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Speaker 8: and his team are up against. Also, wobbly rhinos. Wicker

947
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Speaker 8: of South Carolina has said that he's going to initiate

948
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Speaker 8: a Senate Armed Services investigation with Jack Reid, who you

949
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Speaker 8: saw Jack Reid on the attack yesterday on the intel side.

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Speaker 8: Let's go back to the testimony in the Intelligence Committee.

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Speaker 16: With probably the most present precent one in terms of

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Speaker 16: seven oh two query reviews, we only have about two

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Speaker 16: hundred left when it comes to US persons, and we

954
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Speaker 16: will problem get that those findings to you. But as

955
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Speaker 16: of today, of all the US persons querated in the

956
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Speaker 16: seven oh two databases, there's only been one instance of

957
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Speaker 16: negligent conduct. We have already implemented limited access to those

958
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Speaker 16: who actually know how to use the phis A process

959
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Speaker 16: in seven oh two, and we have implemented a direct

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Speaker 16: reporting structure to the Officer Director and the Deputy Director

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Speaker 16: to make sure that anyone, anyone, whether it's intentional or unintentional,

962
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Speaker 16: abuses the seven oh two query system is brought to

963
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Speaker 16: our attention immediately and we will take that on for

964
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Speaker 16: action directly. And in terms of piggybacking off Director Ratcliffs,

965
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Speaker 16: the public defender in me realizes the importance of constitutional

966
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Speaker 16: due process more than anyone. The staffer and me from

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Speaker 16: the House Intelligence Committee may be the only person who

968
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Speaker 16: has worked more on phiser reform and exposing fires abuse

969
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Speaker 16: the income modern congressional history and the terrorism prosecutor and

970
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Speaker 16: me and the Jay sux civilian in me tells me

971
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Speaker 16: that we cannot do away with seven oh two or

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Speaker 16: fis a Title one, Title three, but we can work

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Speaker 16: with you and your committee to make it better. I

974
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Speaker 16: don't know all those ideas. I don't have all those answers,

975
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Speaker 16: but you have my commitment that we will use it

976
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Speaker 16: appropriately going forward.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Director, I yelled back to Jim and yields.

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Speaker 22: Mister Castro, Thank you, Chairman Tolsey. You and I came

979
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Speaker 22: into the Congress together in twenty thirteen and Cash and

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Speaker 22: I was serving on the Intelligence Committee when you worked

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Speaker 22: on the Intelligence Committee.

982
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Speaker 8: And John.

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Speaker 22: You and I are both from Texas and we both

984
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Speaker 22: serve together on the Intelligence Committee. The idea that this information,

985
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Speaker 22: if it was presented to our committee would not be classified,

986
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Speaker 22: y'all know, is a lie. That's ridiculous. I've seen things

987
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Speaker 22: much less sensitive be presented to us with high classification,

988
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Speaker 22: and to say that it isn't is a lie to

989
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Speaker 22: the country. I want to ask the generals now, the

990
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Speaker 22: NSAY is principally in charge of intercepting things like signals

991
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Speaker 22: intelligence from other countries. General, I want to ask you

992
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Speaker 22: if your organization, your agency intercepted something like this from

993
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Speaker 22: Russia or China or some other country, would you consider

994
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Speaker 22: this classified information?

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Speaker 23: Representative, we would be classifying based off of our sources

996
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Speaker 23: and methods. So those would be the things that in

997
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Speaker 23: terms of how we process, how we would be able

998
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Speaker 23: to obtain the information, and how we'd report it. We

999
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Speaker 23: would classify based off of our source in method.

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Speaker 22: So if you knew that the Secretary of Defense and

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Speaker 22: the National Security Advisor of Russia or China, and the

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Speaker 22: head of the Foreign Ministry and all of the folks

1003
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Speaker 22: who are associated with that signal chain, if you intercepted

1004
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Speaker 22: that information general, would you consider it classified?

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Speaker 23: So it would be classified based off of our collection, So.

1006
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Speaker 22: The NSA would classify it, would all terminatives classified.

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Speaker 23: The protection of our own source and method not necessarily

1008
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Speaker 23: based off the content, but how we collected that.

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Speaker 8: Information, but it would be classified.

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Speaker 23: Well, we certainly wouldn't be collecting on a US person conversation.

1011
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Speaker 22: No, I understand, I'm saying, if we want to, But

1012
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Speaker 22: if you did your job and collected it from the

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Speaker 22: Russian Foreign Ministry and the National Security Advisor and the

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Speaker 22: Secretary of Defense and the president's chief advisor, there is

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Speaker 22: no way, no way having sat on this committee for

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Speaker 22: nine years, that somebody would come in with that information

1017
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Speaker 22: and give us something that says unclassified. You can walk

1018
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Speaker 22: out of this room with this information and give it

1019
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Speaker 22: to whomever you want. You know, with all respect, you

1020
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Speaker 22: and I worked on the committe at the same time, Telsea.

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Speaker 10: You and I came in together.

1022
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 22: I've never had an issue of beef with you, John,

1023
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 22: You and I are both from Texas. Y'all know that's

1024
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Speaker 22: a lie.

1025
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Speaker 2: It's a lie to the country.

1026
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Speaker 22: I want to ask about the Alien Enemies Act really

1027
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Speaker 22: quick while I have time. The President has used the

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Speaker 22: Alien Enemies Act, a wartime authority last used to detain

1029
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Speaker 22: German in Japanese nationals during World War II, to summarily

1030
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Speaker 22: deport people accused of being members of the Venezuelan gang

1031
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Speaker 22: trend the Agua. To invoke this law, the President must

1032
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Speaker 22: demonstrate that the United States is under invasion by a foreign,

1033
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Speaker 22: foreign nation or government. They have alleged that we are

1034
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Speaker 22: under invasion by the Venezuelan government. The idea that we

1035
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Speaker 22: are at war with Venezuela would come as a surprise

1036
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Speaker 22: to most Americans. The unclassified version of the Annual Threat Assessment,

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Speaker 22: the Intelligence community just release makes no mention of any

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Speaker 22: invasion or war that we are fighting with the nation

1039
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Speaker 22: of Venezuela. You would think our nation being at war

1040
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Speaker 22: would merit at least a small reference in this threat assessment.

1041
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 22: And Director Ratcliffe, does the intelligence community assess that we

1042
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Speaker 22: are currently at war or being invaded by the nation

1043
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Speaker 22: of Venezuela.

1044
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Speaker 12: We have no assessment that says that.

1045
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Speaker 22: Thank you. In invoking the law, the President alleged that

1046
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Speaker 22: Trenda Agua is quote undertaking hostile actions against the US

1047
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Speaker 22: at the direction, clandestine or otherwise of the Madutu regime

1048
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Speaker 22: in Venezuela. Director Gabert, does the intelligence community assays that

1049
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 22: the Venezuelan government is directing then the Agua's hostile actions

1050
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Speaker 22: against the United States.

1051
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Speaker 15: There are varied assessments that came from different intelligence community elements.

1052
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Speaker 15: I'll defer to Director Patel to speak specifically to the

1053
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Speaker 15: FBI assessment.

1054
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Speaker 2: But let me ask you.

1055
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Speaker 22: So you're saying there are conflicting assessments that have come

1056
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Speaker 22: from the IC.

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Speaker 12: That's correct, Okay.

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Speaker 22: Thank you, we'll take it up in closed session. All right.

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Speaker 22: You know, your threat assessment makes issue of.

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Speaker 2: Highlights.

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Speaker 22: Fhentannel trafficking as a top throughout the United States. Yet

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Speaker 22: support for law enforcement cooperation with Mexico has been put

1063
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Speaker 22: on hold, and there has been a threat of invasion

1064
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Speaker 22: to Mexico by the United States. You assess that Russia's

1065
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 22: advanced cyber capabilities make it a persistent counterintelligence cyber threat,

1066
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Speaker 22: yet the administration shut down the unit at the Cybersecurity

1067
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Speaker 22: Infrastructure Agency task was stopping Russian cyber text. There are

1068
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Speaker 22: so many other ways that the actions of this administration

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Speaker 22: have contradicted this FED assessment, and the administration is making

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Speaker 22: the world and the United States more dangerous.

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Speaker 9: IW you go back and yields, gentleman from Pennsylvania, mister Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 21: Thank you, Jerr mc crawford, thank you to all of

1073
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Speaker 21: our witnesses for being here, and look forward to working

1074
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Speaker 21: with each and every one of you to keep our

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Speaker 21: country and our planet safe. I wanted to carry on

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Speaker 21: on the topic of Section seven or two reauthorization. Representative

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Speaker 21: LaHood and I did a lot of work on this

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Speaker 21: over the past two years. As you all know, last

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Speaker 21: Congress's Committee works in a bipartisan manner to advance the

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Speaker 21: reauthorization of what most of us have not all deemed

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Speaker 21: to be our country's single most important national security tool.

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Speaker 10: The result was.

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Speaker 21: What was titled the Reforming Intelligence and Securing America Acts,

1084
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Speaker 21: which not only reauthorized Section seven oh two, but equally

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Speaker 21: important and provided necessary reforms to our intelligence community in

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Speaker 21: an effort to address past abuses. This was the largest

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Speaker 21: single reform of the FBI and the IC in a generation,

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Speaker 21: making sure that there are appropriate compliance guardrails that enhance

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Speaker 21: accountability while still protecting the critical tools necessary for our

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Speaker 21: nation's security. Just to name a few, in two thousand

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Speaker 21: and nine, Section seven oh two protected our nation from

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Speaker 21: an attack by an al Qaeda member who intended to

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Speaker 21: detonate explosives in the Manhattan subway lines. In twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 21: Section seven oh two help prevent attacks by assisting in

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Speaker 21: the removal licensed leader high Gmt.

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Speaker 8: Seven oh two is important, But we're trying to get

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Speaker 8: a lot done today in a limited amount of time.

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Speaker 8: The Democrats comeback right there, Kyrs and Cash called Radcliffe.

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Speaker 8: They had the CIA and Tulci Gabbett lyars to their

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Speaker 8: face about their testimony. So there'll be much more of

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Speaker 8: this later. I want to go. Our crack team was

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Speaker 8: able to cut Carrsman, Comer of Kentucky in a full

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Speaker 8: lighting up PBS. I want to go ahead and play this sincentireti,

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Speaker 8: let's go ahead and play at you for the audience.

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Speaker 10: Bet.

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Speaker 24: I'm chary, misterman. I'm glad you brought up a point.

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Speaker 24: It's been mentioned a couple of times already at the

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Speaker 24: early start of this hearing about rural and remote.

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Speaker 8: And I have to tell this story.

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Speaker 24: When I graduated from college with a degree in agriculture,

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Speaker 24: I went back to rural Monroe County, Kentucky and worked

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Speaker 24: on a farm, my farm for five years, full time

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Speaker 24: farm to this day, but full time. I was in

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Speaker 24: a tractor sometimes ten, twelve, fourteen hours a day, and

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Speaker 24: I listened to the radio. And the only radio station

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Speaker 24: I could get that had news was public radio. So

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Speaker 24: I listened to as many hours of public radio is

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Speaker 24: anyone on this panel, I can assure you. And it

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Speaker 24: was a it was a great service. That was thirty

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Speaker 24: some years ago. Today in that same remote area. I mean,

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Speaker 24: you've got serious XM, you've got podcasts, there's internet access now,

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Speaker 24: there's a whole menu of media options now.

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Speaker 2: So but over.

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Speaker 24: Time, and I still occasionally listen to NPR because I

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Speaker 24: just want to hear what they.

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Speaker 2: Have to say.

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Speaker 24: And I don't even recognize the station anymore. It's not news.

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Speaker 24: I feel like it's propaganda. I feel like there's disinformation

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Speaker 24: every time I listened to NPR. And you know, a

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Speaker 24: media entity like MSNBC or Huffington Post that, in my opinion,

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Speaker 24: consistently spews disinformation, they can do that. That's they're a

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Speaker 24: private company. But NPR gets federal funds, and and you know,

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Speaker 24: I have a problem with that because if people in Alaska,

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Speaker 24: if all they have is public radio, then all they

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Speaker 24: know is what these headlines say, and they're wrong about

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Speaker 24: COVID nineteen, and the headlines from the background don't have

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Speaker 24: time to go over all these headlines that are wrong

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Speaker 24: about Russian collusion, wrong, wrong about the Hunter Biden laptop wrong.

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Speaker 24: And then there's a story about me and part of

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Speaker 24: what we went through in this committee during the Biden investigation,

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Speaker 24: which by the way, ended with Joe Biden's last actors

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Speaker 24: President of the United States pardon his entire family preemptively

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Speaker 24: for an eleven year period, which just so happened to

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Speaker 24: be the eleven year period that this committee investigated. The

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Speaker 24: bidens that we had subpoena bank records. I don't think

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Speaker 24: NPR reported about the pardons, but they reported a lot

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Speaker 24: about how there was no evidence of any wrongdoing and

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Speaker 24: things that just weren't true. In fact, there's a story

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Speaker 24: NPR lawmaker leading Hunter Biden House investigation accused of owning

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Speaker 24: a shell company.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's me, Ms Mayer.

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Speaker 24: Do you are you familiar with that story that NPR

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Speaker 24: wrote about me at the height of the Biden investigation,

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Speaker 24: when when you all were disputing every aspect of our

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Speaker 24: investigation that is one hundred percent factual.

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Speaker 22: We have.

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Speaker 24: Hundreds of pages of evidence, hundreds of pages of bank records,

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Speaker 24: hundreds of pages of emails. Do you remember the story

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Speaker 24: that NPR wrote about me saying I had a shell company?

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Speaker 17: Congressman, I was not at NPR at the time, and

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Speaker 17: I'm unfamiliar with this.

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Speaker 24: So where do you get your sources on something like

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Speaker 24: That's a very serious accusation, because we're investigating a president

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Speaker 24: and his family who had twenty eight shell companies. I

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Speaker 24: have an LLC had five properties in it. It's in

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Speaker 24: my financial disclosure form. I've gone into great detail given

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Speaker 24: lots of interviews, but people that listen to NPR, they're

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Speaker 24: totally disinform on the truth. And you know, I have

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Speaker 24: a problem with that because.

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Speaker 10: You get federal funds.

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Speaker 24: And I do believe there was a role for public

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Speaker 24: radio thirty years ago, maybe twenty years ago, maybe five

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Speaker 24: years ago. But because of technology today, I don't think

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Speaker 24: there's a role for public radio anymore.

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Speaker 10: And I think you've abused.

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Speaker 24: The privilege that that you had with receiving federal funds

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Speaker 24: because these headlines here are not true. This is disinformation

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Speaker 24: on some huge topics. Do you want to dispute anything

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Speaker 24: that I said in the remaining thirty seconds?

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Speaker 17: Thank you, Congressman. First of all, I want to recognize

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Speaker 17: your concerns. One of the first things that I did

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Speaker 17: in coming in in May was to beef up our

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Speaker 17: editorial standards. I directed my editor and.

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Speaker 8: Cheap there, let's go, Let's go to the House intail

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Speaker 8: right now. Back.

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Speaker 25: Information shall be classified if it's unauthorized disclosure could reasonably

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Speaker 25: be expected to cause describable.

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Speaker 10: Damage to national security.

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Speaker 25: This includes military plans, weapon systems, or operations.

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Speaker 10: You don't disagree that I quoted that accurately, right, that's

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Speaker 10: also an accurate quote.

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Speaker 25: Can I show you the I'd like to show you

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Speaker 25: the text that Secretary Hegseeth actually published to the world. Now,

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Speaker 25: Lieutenant General Cruz, as ranking member Hims said, it says

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Speaker 25: time now, weather is favorable, just confirmed with Suentcom, we

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Speaker 25: are a go for mission launch.

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Speaker 10: Then it says at twelve fifteen.

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Speaker 25: Eastern F eighteen F eighteen's launch first strike package F

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Speaker 25: eighteen's are military systems.

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Speaker 10: Correct, weapon systems, they are, okay.

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Speaker 25: Thirteen forty five trigger based F eighteen first strike windows

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Speaker 25: starts target terrorist is at.

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Speaker 10: His known location, so it should be on time.

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Speaker 25: Also, strike thrones launch MQ nines MQ nine's is a

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Speaker 25: weapon system correct, they are?

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Speaker 10: Okay.

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Speaker 25: I think applying the Executive Order as well as the

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Speaker 25: DoD Manual to this fact pattern, we clearly have weapons

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Speaker 25: systems that have been identified.

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Speaker 10: That is classified information.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 25: The reason why it's important that this information not be

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Speaker 25: disclosed is that we don't want the adversaries to know

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Speaker 25: what's about to happen, right, sir.

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Speaker 26: Well, I would draw a small distinction there. You referenced

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Speaker 26: and asked if that platform, those two platforms are weapon systems.

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Speaker 26: They are, but those terms are used all across the

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Speaker 26: globe in a lot of context, so it's really about

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Speaker 26: how they're used in the context of this particular document.

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Speaker 26: I just want to clarify that the use of those.

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Speaker 25: I understand in this situation, those are operational details.

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Speaker 10: They are operational details.

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Speaker 26: But again, as you've quoted the DoD instruction, it's about operations.

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Speaker 26: So as you further go down into what are the

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Speaker 26: operational details, I think, as we had a discussion yesterday,

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Speaker 26: the important aspect I think all of us are very

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Speaker 26: familiar with.

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Speaker 10: This is classified information. This is classified information.

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Speaker 25: It's a weapons system as well as sequence of strikes

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Speaker 25: as well as details about the operations. And so I

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Speaker 25: think that just piggybacking off of what some other members

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Speaker 25: have said using the DoD's manual as well as the

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Speaker 25: executive order in operation today with the Trump administration, this

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Speaker 25: text message is clearly classified information. Secretary Hegseth has disclosed

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Speaker 25: military plans as well as classified information.

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Speaker 10: He needs to resign immediately.

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Speaker 25: He needs to resign immediately and in full investigation needs

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Speaker 25: to be undertaken with regard to whether other similar signal

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Speaker 25: chats are occurring in this administration. I'd like to turn

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Speaker 25: my attention to another topic, Director Ptail. According to the DOJ,

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Speaker 25: in twenty twenty two, the FBI led Joint Terrorism Task

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Speaker 25: Force JTTF in my hometown of Chicago valiantly led efforts

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Speaker 25: to prevent a plot to attack Naval Station Great Lakes

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Speaker 25: in Illinois.

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Speaker 10: You don't dispute that, do you, sir.

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Speaker 16: I'm not familiar with it, but I don't dispute what

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Speaker 16: you're telling me.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 25: A memo obtained by ABC seven News of Chicago said

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Speaker 25: that this task force will now be quote actively supporting

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Speaker 25: close quote the Department of Homeland Security and its immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 10: You don't dispute that either.

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Speaker 14: Do you.

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Speaker 16: I'm just not familiar with it, sir.

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Speaker 10: Okay, sir.

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Speaker 25: I just have to say the DOJ has now tasked

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Speaker 25: JTTFS to shift some resources to immigration enforcement efforts.

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Speaker 10: And I don't say this lightly. If there's a terrorist attack.

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Speaker 25: Anywhere in the country, including in Chicago, and it was

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Speaker 25: because the jtt you have some part shifted resources that

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Speaker 25: will be held to pay.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 9: So man's times expired, gentlemen from Georgia, Mister Scott.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Miss Chairman.

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Speaker 27: Director Gabbard was the target terrorist named in the text.

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Speaker 27: Or was it simply referred to as target terrorist. The

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Speaker 27: target was not named, thank you, It was the location named, Congressmen. No,

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Speaker 27: no locations were named.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Director Mattel.

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Speaker 27: There was a specific accusation made about how close we

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Speaker 27: are working with Mexico currently. My understanding and I want

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Speaker 27: to congratulate you on this, and I think it shows

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Speaker 27: a shift of focus at the FBI, since you've taken

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Speaker 27: over to what it should have been doing all along,

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Speaker 27: which is chasing the ten most wanted that were threatening

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Speaker 27: our country. My understanding is that two of the three

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Speaker 27: were actually arrested in Mexico when it being extra dited

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Speaker 27: back to the United States.

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Speaker 16: Is that correct, Yes, sir, we have been working. One

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Speaker 16: of the first meetings I took as FBI director was

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Speaker 16: my counterpart secretary for rush in Mexico, and subsequent to

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Speaker 16: that we have repeated we're extradited or expelled from Mexico

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Speaker 16: to top ten of the FBI's most wanted list and

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Speaker 16: thirty three other criminals.

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Speaker 27: Well, it sounds to me like we're working closer with

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Speaker 27: them today than we have in the last several years,

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Speaker 27: and that the focus of the FBI has shifted to

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Speaker 27: actually protecting Americans SUPs instead of arresting her life.

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Speaker 8: There's cash Mattel. So we're trying to juggle two things today.

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Speaker 8: Right there, you saw the Democratic representative from Illinois call

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Speaker 8: for the immediate firing of Pete Hexath, that Pete Hexa

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Speaker 8: would not resign as Secretary Defense. Where that's not going

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Speaker 8: to happen. So it's going to be more fireworks. We're

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Speaker 8: going to take a short commercial. I want to thank

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Speaker 8: Real America's Voice of letting us go for an hour

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Speaker 8: and fifteen minutes commercial free. Also want to thank our sponsors,

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Speaker 8: to investing in gold and precious medals in the era

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Speaker 8: of Trump, and folks, trust me, it's gonna get a

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Speaker 8: little turbulent. Federal courts are jumping into this situation on

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Speaker 8: these text messages. The results of all this are a

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Speaker 8: bunch of dead, bad guys in the southern tip of

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Speaker 8: the Arabian Peninsula. But of course the Democrats going to

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Speaker 8: make a firestorm out of all of it. Tulcy Gabbert

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Speaker 8: is tripling down, Ratcliffe is doubling down. The administration. I

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Speaker 8: think looks like they're finally going to the mattresses on

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Speaker 8: this and daring, daring the House Intelligence sent intelligence to

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Speaker 8: do something about it. Only thing that's an issue right

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Speaker 8: now is wobbly Rhino Republicans. Short commercial break back to

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Speaker 8: the House Intelligence and MTGS Doge hearing on PBS in

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Speaker 8: a moment

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Speaker 4: America, Oh, I love it.