WEBVTT - The Spirited Actor - Love Your Talent 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.600 Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.720 Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.880 TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.480 a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.720 Jersey Drive with executive producers Spike Lee and director Nick Domez. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.760 I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.520 I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.840 transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.680 Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.400 Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons to name a few. I 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.360 also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.000 I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.599 I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.120 acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.360 that room. Now I know, I know actors want to 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.520 get the job. I get that, but being by a 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:05.399 casting director that is powerful. And now it's time for 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:10.280 meditation of the day. I have learned over the years 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:15.559 that when one's mind is made up, this diminishes fear 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:21.399 knowing what must be done. Does away with fear? Rosa Parks. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:28.199 Let me tell you something about fear. I was having 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.440 a conversation with a friend of mine from California the 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:36.880 other day and they were talking about manifestation. And they 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.119 said to me, you know what a tracy you manifest 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.160 all the time I've seen it. I know that you 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.679 just met. You're a manifestor, right, And I said, so 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.400 are you? I said, nah, I'm not a manifestor like you. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.080 And I said, I'm going to be honest with you 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.480 because I know you and we're friends from California. Right, 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.640 you are a manifestor, but what blocks your manifestation is 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:04.080 your fear. And you know, she got taken aback. She said, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.720 what are you talking about. I'm not afraid of anything. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:12.040 I said, when you ask for something, you asked with confidence. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.960 But then when it doesn't show up when you wanted 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.600 to and when you needed to or when you thought 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:23.000 it should, then you get kind of mad. And then 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.400 when you get mad, you get frustrated. And then when 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.440 you get frustrated, you start to pick on yourself and say, well, 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.600 why does this happening to me? Why can't I have it? 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.320 Why is it always next? Thing. You know, you're disconnected 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.920 yourself from the frequency of truly manifesting what it is 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:44.920 that you want. So when things don't happen when you, guys, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.640 want them to happen, or when you think it's supposed 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:53.120 to happen, don't lose your vision and don't lose sight 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.360 that it is still going to happen. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.919 But it's going to happen when it's supposed to happen. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:02:59.920 You are not a. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.079 Control of that. Just stay in that knowing that it's 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:07.760 gonna happen. See yourself on that plane in first class, 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.000 going on that trip. See yourself going to that store 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.919 and buying whatever it is that you choose to purchase. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:23.400 See yourself purchasing something for someone else. You, guys, fear 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.560 is an illusion. Look fear straight in the eye and 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:30.760 say you don't exist because I have faith, and watch 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.400 how you change the trajectory of briefing in that moment. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:43.520 Stand in your faith today. I will stand in my faith. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.080 Before we get started, I'd like to remind everyone to 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.720 look out for my new show, Inside the Black Box. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.160 I'll be co hosting with the Great Joe Morton. We'll 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.240 be on Crackle Network real soon. I'll keep you posted. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.760 Welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me Tracy Moore. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:07.840 This guest coming up today. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:09.360 You know, okay, I'm just laying. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:13.440 The guest today is I'm your guest. I'm going to 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:14.720 be teaching today. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.200 Since we are in the beginning, the very very early 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.960 stages of February, we are going to be talking about 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:29.159 loving your talent for the month of February. Technically, you 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:35.120 should love it in general always, howsoever we're talking about February. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.440 February is love your talent. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.640 So let's talk about ways in which actors can love 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.280 and continue to. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:44.280 Love their talent. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.120 Because I will say this you guys, this is a 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:50.839 challenging business. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.520 I Am not going to sugarcoat it. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:59.000 I'm going to tell you that it is Rosie all 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:09.520 the time, loving mind. There are hurdles, there are obstacles. 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:14.760 There are challenges in relationships that you have to deal with. 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:21.720 You know, whether it's the studio relationship, producer, director, casting director, agent, manager, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.920 you deal with a lot of people. And if you're 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.360 not a people person, you might want to reconsider this gig. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.120 So where I want to start. I want to start 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.200 in the beginning, And I asked this question in my class, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:44.239 why did you choose acting, or as some other actors 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:51.840 have suggested, acting chose them. But regardless of how you 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:57.400 approach and how you came into this industry, you need 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:01.480 to be honest with yourself people. You need to be honest. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.000 For instance, if you like to eat all the time, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.120 and I'm talking breakfast, lunch, and dinner and some snacks 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:13.080 and maybe a Starbucks at three o'clock. If you like 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.560 to pay your bills on time, go shopping, go to 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.760 a movie here and there, or a Broadway show. If 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:26.920 you like all of those things, that's not as consistent 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.680 as the job of acting will be in the beginning 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.359 of your career. Now, there are some stories, and I 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:40.080 know stories myself from Rob Brown finding Forrester who initially 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:44.680 came on the show to audition as an extra and 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:49.840 walked out co starring with Sean Sir Sean Connery rest 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:54.400 his soul and I coach Buster rhymes in that film. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.960 You know, you walk out with a different check. And 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.240 if you've never seen a check that's like one hundred 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.440 and fifty thousand, you know, two hundred and fifty thousand 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:11.000 a lot of money. However, you have to be smart 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.640 about budgeting that money, because that could be great for 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.040 one film, and then what if you don't book another 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.640 project for a couple of months or maybe a year 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:26.880 or two. It's I used to always say, because I 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.520 have a lot of friends in the music business, and 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:35.400 advances are just that they advance you money so that 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:40.800 you can take care of your responsibilities and feel comfortable 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:46.000 being in the studio recording all day and night. Because 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.240 you don't need a second job to take care of 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:54.160 your living expenses. So you don't want to blow your 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.720 advance on jewelry and pars initially. And you know, no 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.880 judgment if that's what you do, that's what you do. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.320 I am just saying, in my observation that first check 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:11.920 should be considered. Let's budget and budget for like six 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:15.880 to eight months after the job. So you know, I'm 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.520 not saying it's gonna take you six to eight months. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.080 I'm not saying. I'm just saying that you have to 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:24.360 live wisely. And I think the stripe really put a 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.000 light on actors and what they're really getting paid, and 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.240 it's not what a lot of people the general public thinks. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.199 So I freelance, we have to handle our money differently. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.800 And as much as we are in the present moment, 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.320 I can speak for myself. You're planning for the future 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.080 moments as well. And if you have a family, you 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.400 know that adds up. So you want to be wise. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.080 And if you're not wise with your money now, then 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:58.640 maybe take some money classes. You know, there's plenty of 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.280 stuff on ig and all of that, but you know, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.160 just so that you know how to get the best 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:10.920 and the most of your funds as an actor. But 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.120 it's not going to be a convenience, you know, at 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.560 least not for everybody. Some people, you know, they have 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.360 that financial support and that's great. But just know the 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.000 words that I choose not to use, like struggle, grinding, hustling, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.560 those words are not conducive to bringing work to you. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:33.440 And it sounds like a pain. You want to be 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:38.120 in a place of comfort, you know, of course, financial comfort, however, 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.280 in comfort in pursuing your career. Knowing there is a goal, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.120 there is a strategy here. You're not just oh, we'll 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.000 see what happens or hope for the best. No, you're 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.719 a part of this creation. Get involved and be actively 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.520 involved in the making and the creation of your career. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.240 Don't put it in somebody else's hands. Trust your hands. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.440 You don't know anybody else's ins. Okay, So the first 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.319 question you should be asking yourself is why do you 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.240 choose acting or did acting choose you? And really have 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.400 that on this conversation with yourself. I talked to actors 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:17.079 when I first started teaching twenty nine years ago. I 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:22.839 would say to actors, you know, are you a morning person? Right? 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.400 And people would say, no, I'm not really a morning person. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.680 And I'd be like, well, you should start practicing now 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.840 because call times, most call times are like six am, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:36.640 seven am most call times. If you're shooting, you know, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.640 night shoots, then your call time is going to be 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.880 in the afternoon. But you're still going to be working 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.920 through those two o'clock three am all the way until 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:50.280 like eight nine am. So you have to start putting 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.680 your putting yourself and your mindset in the position of 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.560 seeing yourself as a working actor. And what are those 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.720 things that are required. One, you got to be a person, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:07.120 all right. If you are someone who is bothered by 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.880 you know, taking photographs or signing, you know, seeing yourself 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.920 signing autographs, you need to shift that. And the reason 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.600 why I say that, I'm not saying that you have 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.160 to take every picture, you have to sign every autograph. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.880 I'm just saying you should be grateful for the people 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.960 that support you and put you in the position that 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.679 you are, because when you do great work, you are 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.440 not in control of your fame. It's your audience that 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:38.480 supports you financially and spiritually. So you know, if you're 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.720 bothered by that, you should have a conversation with yourself 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.560 because I'm going to tell you in my twenty nine 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.760 years of teaching and being an acting coach, a large 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:54.840 part of that seventeen twenty years, so my celebrity clients 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.840 are really really super gracious in taking pictures with their 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:03.560 fans or autographs, and I feel really blessed because I've 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.400 never encountered a situation even when they're tired and we've 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.000 been on the set for sixteen hours, they still find 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:14.439 a space to thank their fans. So again, if that's 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.480 something that you don't like and not comfortable with, you 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.840 got to get in the practice, because again, when you 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.760 do great work, which is not in your control right 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.840 And I only say that because I've read millions of 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:33.040 scripts and millions of scripts that read so wonderfully and 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.640 they were excellent and they did not translate when they 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:42.720 were shocked into a film. So you can read scripts 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.520 all day and think, oh, this is going to be 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.160 a great project for me, or this is going to 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.440 be my breakout role. You don't control that. And so 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.320 when that happens and you do have that opportunity for 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:59.280 a breakout role and to be seen, people love your 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.240 work around this like they feel like they know you. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:06.440 They feel personal because they buy the ticket to go 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.600 see your film or they buy your records. I'm just 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.320 saying common courtesy and being gracious is not something that 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.520 should be an effort. It should be something that is 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.840 innately inside of you and that you know, if nothing else, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:25.160 just being gracious and thanking people for their support. I 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.240 don't feel like that should be an issue, but it's 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.800 an awareness that I want to bring to you because 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.600 it's a part of the gig. Another part of the 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.280 gig that people don't talk about a lot. But when 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:44.200 you have a breakout role, right and then I love 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.200 when Malik Yoba said before in New York Undercover, he said, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.160 in my class, he said, no one knew my name. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.320 And then the next day everybody knew my name, and 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.040 you know that has. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:57.600 To freak you out. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.440 When you're walking down street, somebody's like, you know, Tracy 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:06.400 what what? Like? You know, if you never had that experience, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.080 that is going to be an experience again. When you 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.280 do great work, you will be recognized and work comes 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:14.160 to you because people are talking about you at that 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.280 point and writing roles for you or considering you for this. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.280 A lot of stuff goes on once you have that 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:26.600 breakout role, right, But what people don't talk about is junkets. Right. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:32.320 So when you do a film or television show, that's 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:37.280 what Entertainment Tonight and GMC all of those access Hollywood. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.600 Those shows are set up to show you really the 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:47.080 glamorous part of Hollywood. And after you've done a project, 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.960 you do what's called junkets and you go. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.160 There's some situations right where you can be in a 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.000 huge room. 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:00.640 And CBS is there, NBC the streaming all of the 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.960 different hosts that you recognize, and one by one you go, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.680 it's like a rotation. You go, you sit with Entertainment 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.640 Tonight and then they interview you, and then you move 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:14.560 and you sit with you know, Daily Mail. Right. The 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.720 thing about that is that what you're doing is you're 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:22.160 repeating yourself at least one hundred plus times because you're 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.240 pretty much being asked the same questions by the host, like, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.400 oh my god, so tell us about your character in 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.120 this movie, or you know, how did you choose pretty 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.720 much the thing. Right, A lot of actors, this is 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.120 not their favorite part of the gig. A lot of actors, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.600 it's not that they have a problem promoting it, but 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.400 it's more of the repetition of it that could be 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:46.760 a little challenge. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:47.080 Right. 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.960 So one situation is you're in a really big room 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.520 and you're just rotating around and talking to the host. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.000 Another situation is that the host are coming to you. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.240 A lot of times when I was on the set 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:02.400 with my celebrity clients would show up, MTV would Sway 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.920 would show up. So there's a lot of promotion, and 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.680 there's a lot of interviews to talk about the film 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.400 and the thing that you must be consistent with. And 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.200 I don't feel I should have to push you in this, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.400 but you want to be consistent in enjoying each interview 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.680 that you have. You don't want it to look like 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:27.080 it's a burden that you know. Another question about the film. No, 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:30.040 you want to be excited, you want your audience to 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.400 come support you, and more importantly, you enjoyed it and 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:38.920 had a great time, Okay, And you know I'm not again, 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.720 I'm not putting words in your mouth. If you didn't 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.440 have a great time, you know, there's a way in 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.960 saying that as well. However, junkets are a very, very 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.360 very big part of your job. And if you don't 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.680 like talking about things, talking about yourself, that's another thing 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.840 you're going to have to incorporate in your life because 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.480 that is a part of being an actor. And why 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:05.960 are we loving your talent is the confidence. It's knowing 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.399 that there's a role out there for me without being 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.280 jaded and stressed out right, And I don't even like 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.760 that word as stress. However, I'm using it to give 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:21.400 you guys an example in my experience, actors who are 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.720 not jaded. And I have a spirited actor right now 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.680 who is not jaded, and her career is soaring. Applause, applause, applause. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.879 She knows who she is and you have this sense 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.240 of also, you're grown, you know, and it doesn't have 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.440 to be an age when I say you're grown you're 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.399 just at a point in your life where there's no 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.720 there's nothing to chase, there's nothing to hyperventilate about. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.720 You trust this process. You trust, you put some work 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.119 into it, you. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:53.000 Train, because what job do you apply for or go 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.760 after and you know nothing about it? This is a job. Yes, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:03.399 acting is a job and more than nine to five. Okay. 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.520 So I just want you, guys, to have a conversation 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:11.880 with yourself before you dive in and invest and consider 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.560 yourself an actor, or more importantly, before you put that 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:19.480 pen to paper or write in your phone your acceptance speech. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.800 Be honest with yourself about this industry and the journey 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.119 that it is. And I keep stressing to you guys, 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:31.000 don't look for the joy anywhere else but in the journey. 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.520 Even when you are I don't use the word rejection. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.359 Not every role is for you, and there are a 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.400 lot of elements of why you did not get the role. 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.800 I have worked on. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.240 A plethora of projects where you know, sometimes a producer 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.000 or director has a friend who's an actor and they 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.760 want to give them that role. Even though you might 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:59.399 still audition for that role, that role might be someone 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:05.960 else's unbeknownst to you, it doesn't matter. Be grateful for 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:12.280 the opportunity to audition. Look at every opportunity, look at 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:16.080 every moment in this journey as a teachable lesson for 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:20.560 yourself and a way for you to grow as an actor. Okay, 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:28.119 all right, fame versus great work. When I work with actors, 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.760 there's been a couple of actors in my experience that 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.000 have said, Tracy, can you help me be famous? And 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.800 I say, no, I can't. I can. I can help 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.800 you be a great actor, but being famous is something 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:46.879 that you're chasing. I don't chase fame, and you should 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.320 not chase fame. You should allow the process to happen 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.240 the way it's going to happen. A lot of times 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.760 actors will take my class, and some actors will be 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.960 challenged and say, you know know, they want an agent, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.520 they want something to happen. I'm going to tell you 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.800 now that I know my classes are different because when 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.280 I started teaching twenty nine years ago, I had friends 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:18.080 as actor friends as a casting director. I was actively working. 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.439 I never worked one job. It was always two to 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.159 four jobs at the same time. Because I didn't know 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.879 how to say no to my friends, producers and directors 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:33.040 now I do. However, at that time, you know I 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:38.280 would be working on a job, let's say, with with 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.719 assistant director Roger Bob. And if you don't know who 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.119 Roger Bob is, you know I'm really big on IMDb 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.679 dot com. You have to IMDb dot com these people 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.720 and whether whoever I speak of, so that you know 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.600 these are real people and people that you want to 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:54.200 work with. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:54.960 Right. 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.160 So, I was doing a project work with Roger, asked 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:01.920 Roger to come into my class. Roger came into my class. 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.960 I was walking down the street one time, was first 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.280 season of Dave Chuppelle's TV show. Ran in a Dave 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:09.760 and he. 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:10.560 Was like, where are you going? 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:11.960 I was like to my class. He was like, chase 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.160 him coming with you. Like this has been my life 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.320 in teaching for twenty nine years. I just didn't start 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.520 inviting people into my class. And not just my actor friends, 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:26.680 but also my casting director friends, my agent friends, manager friends. 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.080 Producer director friends. 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:33.359 Always from day one, wanting the mission and the commitment 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.640 has always been to help showcase actors and give them 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:43.400 opportunities that they may not necessarily have. So me inviting 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:47.359 my friends and them so graciously, you know, including my 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:51.800 producer of this podcast s, Bruce Henry. 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:53.359 He comes into the class. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.840 It's for my actors to have an opportunity to know Spruce, 0:21:57.880 --> 0:21:59.800 and for Spruce to have them in the back of 0:21:59.880 --> 0:22:02.679 his mind when he's thinking about voiceover, when he needs 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:09.440 an improvisational actor whatever. So this has been the spirited 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.840 actor and continues to be our mission. And there are 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:18.880 things that you know as a casting director that I've 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.640 overextended myself because again, I believe in actors. I trust actors. 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.680 You have to as an actor, you have to appreciate 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.480 you love that. You have to take that in and 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:34.479 know that that's not a consistent experience that all actors have. 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.600 And that's a part of your journey, you know, being 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.119 grateful for that opportunity to meet that person that you 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.040 would not necessarily meet on your own, or that you 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.639 have that connection to me on your own. It's not 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:53.040 about the fame. It's about your work focused on being 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.840 a great actor training. I used to always say this 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.720 as a casting director. People would say, oh, so you 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:04.240 know what's your next gig, and I would say, oh, 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.080 I don't know what it is, but God is always 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.680 going to bless me with something and I always would 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:10.800 get a job right, and then I would say, even 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:12.560 if I wasn't getting paid, I would still do it 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.119 because I love this right, and then energy started to 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.879 come to me like favors or no money, and I 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.119 was like, no, we got to switch that dialogue because 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:26.439 it's real life. We have responsibilities. So I love this 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:30.800 business so much that even if I wasn't getting paid, 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.800 I would do it. However, that's not my real world. 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.520 I've put a lot of time and energy into building 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:44.199 my career and relationships that I know my value and 0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.920 I deserve to get paid for my work. So that's 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:51.760 my mentality now. But I love this business regardless like 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:56.480 I love love love actors. I love being on the set. 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.040 I love every aspect of it. And that's what you 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.480 have to do as an actor. You have to love 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.640 all of it you do. If you love the training 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.960 hate the audition part, you can't. You've got to find 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:13.160 a place in the zooms to love this, you know, 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.480 And starting with you're not standing in front of us, 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:19.560 because I think ninety percent of your audition and my 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.719 experience as you guys coming in the room and so 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:26.800 incredibly nervous that you're either shake. Your body is physically shaking, 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.720 your voice is shaking. So you don't have to do 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:33.960 that anymore. How cool is that you don't have to 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.879 come in live. Now you're in the comfort the comfort 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.919 of your home. You're in the comfort of wherever you 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:45.719 are you should be, and you at your own past 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:51.480 are putting your submission together. Now, I will say this 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.240 in terms of submissions, because this is a general consensus 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:59.400 with all casting directors. Only do as many takes as 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.320 you feel that you would get if we were in 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.679 a live audition. I'm gonna say that again, only do 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:09.120 as many takes as you would get if you were 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:12.600 in a live audition. So in a live audition, you know, 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.720 a casting director is not doing ten takes. You're lucky 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:19.080