WEBVTT - Death of a Nepo Baby

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<v Speaker 1>Live from Television City in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>On the evening of October thirteenth, nineteen fifty seven, millions

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<v Speaker 2>of Americans sat down to watch a special event on

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<v Speaker 2>television featuring some of the country's most popular entertainers.

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<v Speaker 3>Ing Crosbie, Frank Sinatra, lorosbry Clony, Loie Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But the real star of the show its yes, the Edsel,

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<v Speaker 2>the car that the Ford Motor Company, sponsors of this show,

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<v Speaker 2>was introducing to the public with unprecedented fanfare. Here's being

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<v Speaker 2>Crosbie with old blue eyes, Frank Sinatra.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an opening show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're know on TV for Edzel to go all

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<v Speaker 3>the way. It's a great card too, bing and they're

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<v Speaker 3>putting on a great square.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big night when the Edzel first came out.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a big deal, right.

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<v Speaker 4>It was about as big a deal as you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>But not too big to fail. Just two years after

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<v Speaker 2>its launch, the ed Sell was out of gas. The

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<v Speaker 2>very name immortalized as a byword for failure. But Edzell

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just the name of a car.

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<v Speaker 4>Edgell was the name of Henry Ford's only son.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of history's most famous NEPO babies. Yes, nepo baby.

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<v Speaker 2>The nepo is short for nepotism. You may have heard

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<v Speaker 2>the term nepo baby to describe celebrity children born to

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity parents and all the advantages that come with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But family connections affect every field of work and always

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<v Speaker 2>have And when family is involved, so is drama. In

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, we'll tell you the story of Henry and

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<v Speaker 2>Ed sul Ford. Oh the pressure of being the son

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<v Speaker 2>of that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>It had to be tough, knowing that you would never

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<v Speaker 4>be able to top what your father had done because

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<v Speaker 4>it couldn't be done anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll also hear about the first father and son to

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<v Speaker 2>make it to the White House. Service is the family business.

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<v Speaker 5>Service is the family business because the family business is America.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of the White House, we'll recount the tale

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<v Speaker 2>of the famous daughter who strolled into sixteen hundred Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>Avenue on four legs. Was Pushinka a nepo baby?

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<v Speaker 6>I would have to say yes, I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 6>the lineage she came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Three stories, three families, three big names, well two if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't count the dog from CBS Sunday Morning and

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart I'm Morocca. And this is mobituary this moment, NEPO,

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<v Speaker 2>Babies of History, Edzel, Ford, John Quincy Adams, and Prushinka

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<v Speaker 2>the Dog. You say the word ed Sel and most

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<v Speaker 2>people think what.

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<v Speaker 4>A synonym for failure or commercial product failure in any event.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Matt Anderson. He's the curator of Transportation at the

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<v Speaker 2>amazing Henry Ford Museum of American Innovation in Dearborn, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>For ten seasons, I've hosted the CBS television series Innovation

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<v Speaker 2>Nation at the Henry Ford, and Matt is my go

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<v Speaker 2>to guy for all things automotive.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to think that the ed Sel was overstyled, oversold,

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<v Speaker 4>and overpriced.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you say it was a bad car.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think the Edzel was a bad car per se.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was a solid vehicle. The engineering did work,

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<v Speaker 4>but it just wasn't what the market wanted. Ford promised

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<v Speaker 4>something entirely new in automotive engineering and design, and in

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<v Speaker 4>the end, the Edgel just had things that are kind

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<v Speaker 4>of gimmicky.

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<v Speaker 2>The Edzel was meant to compete with mid priced cars

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<v Speaker 2>like Chrysler's Dodge and GM's Pontiac and Buick, and it

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<v Speaker 2>boasted several genuine innovations like system warning lights on the dashboard,

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<v Speaker 2>which every car made today has, But it also had

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<v Speaker 2>features no one seemed to need, like a rolling dome speedometer,

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<v Speaker 2>and debuting in the midst of a recession, it's low

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<v Speaker 2>miles per gallon was a non starter for most consumers.

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<v Speaker 2>As for the design of the car, it got attention

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<v Speaker 2>all right, the wrong to attention the oddly shaped vertical

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<v Speaker 2>grill at the front. Comedian Danny Thomas said it made

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<v Speaker 2>the car look like an Oldsmobile sucking a lemon. Others

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<v Speaker 2>likened the grill's shape to something more risque.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a comment made at the time. It made

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<v Speaker 4>ever since, yes, at the Edzel represented a certain anatomical part,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 2>The company had spent ten years and two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars on the Edsol. After just three model

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<v Speaker 2>years and a loss of three hundred and fifty million,

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<v Speaker 2>the Edzel was discontinued over sixteen years after the man

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<v Speaker 2>for whom it was named, someone who had nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the car, had died. The final insult to

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<v Speaker 2>a man who never got the credit he deserved from

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<v Speaker 2>the public or from his own father.

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<v Speaker 4>When folks generations into the future think back on the

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<v Speaker 4>twentieth century. There are just a few names that are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be remembered, and Henry Ford's is one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry Ford revolutionized mass industrial production with the assembly line.

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<v Speaker 2>He introduced the five dollar workday, helping to create a

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<v Speaker 2>middle class, and he was the man behind the vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>that changed America.

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<v Speaker 4>The Model T which Henry Ford had designed and introduced,

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<v Speaker 4>changed the automobile from being a plaything for the wealthy

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<v Speaker 4>into a tool of everyday life.

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<v Speaker 3>It ended the isolation of the farmer and made the

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday ride at National Institution.

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<v Speaker 2>When Edsel Ford rolled off the assembly line on November sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen ninety three, courtesy of Henry and Clara Ford, the

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<v Speaker 2>family wasn't yet wealthy. Henry was still just getting started.

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<v Speaker 4>Just about six weeks after Edsel was born, he built

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<v Speaker 4>his first internal combustion engine and it worked. He only

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<v Speaker 4>ran it for about thirty seconds or so, but that

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<v Speaker 4>moment kind of was a Eureka moment for Henry Ford

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<v Speaker 4>and knew that this was what he was going to do.

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<v Speaker 4>He was going to get into the automobile business.

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<v Speaker 2>An only child, Edseell grew up alongside that business. At

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<v Speaker 2>age two, he wrote in his father's first gas powered automobile,

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<v Speaker 2>the Quadricycle PSI, I've driven in a replica of the original,

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<v Speaker 2>four big bicycle wheels, a little buggy seat and no brakes.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to use your foot to stop at Fred

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<v Speaker 2>Flintstone style. As a young boy, Edsell spent hours drawing

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<v Speaker 2>imaginative designs for his own cars. As a teenager, he

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<v Speaker 2>spent as much time as he could after school at

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<v Speaker 2>his father's auto plant, helping with the mail, attaching brass

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<v Speaker 2>tags to new vehicles, and in nineteen oh eight, when

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<v Speaker 2>Edseell was sixteen years old, Henry unveiled the Model T.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a measure of the esteem in which

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<v Speaker 4>his father held him at that point that Edzell was

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<v Speaker 4>a part of a very small group who was involved

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<v Speaker 4>in designing the Ford Model T. Henry literally built a

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a secret room in the corner of the

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<v Speaker 4>factory where his top engineers would sit and work through

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<v Speaker 4>what this automobile should be, and Edzell was there for

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<v Speaker 4>all of those discussions.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as he graduated from high school, Edzell went

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<v Speaker 2>to work for his father full time, a newspaper at

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<v Speaker 2>the time described him as quote a quiet, hard working

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<v Speaker 2>youngster with a desk in his father's office, as familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with every branch of the business as any of the

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<v Speaker 2>officers in the company.

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<v Speaker 4>He was elected to the board of directors in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen when he was all of twenty two years old.

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<v Speaker 4>So he moves pretty quickly from the bottom up to

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<v Speaker 4>the upper reaches of Ford Motor Company.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that he worried that people thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was there only because he was the boss's son.

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<v Speaker 4>That had to nagg at the back of Edgell's conscious

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<v Speaker 4>that people somewhere up or down the line at Ford

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<v Speaker 4>Motor Company would have thought he was just there by

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<v Speaker 4>virtue of who his father was.

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<v Speaker 2>When Edzell asked for an exemption from military service during

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<v Speaker 2>World War One to keep working at Ford Motor Company,

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<v Speaker 2>he was accused of being a draft dodger.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that on him because he really did believe

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<v Speaker 4>that he was of more value working at Ford Motor

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<v Speaker 4>Company than overseas.

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<v Speaker 2>But Edseell, who was named president of the company at

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<v Speaker 2>age twenty five, would prove himself worthy of his position

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<v Speaker 2>and in many ways a stark contrast to his father.

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<v Speaker 4>They were very much different. In fact, about as polar

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<v Speaker 4>opposite as you could imagine. Henry grew up on a farm.

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<v Speaker 4>He never finished his grade school education and kind of

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<v Speaker 4>worked his way up to his ultimate career goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Henry espousing his belief that success starts and ends

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<v Speaker 2>with hard work.

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<v Speaker 6>The young man makes his mind the work.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no event of what he can do, makes up

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<v Speaker 2>his mind to.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Where he has much an.

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<v Speaker 7>He must study.

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<v Speaker 2>And Henry was proudly unpolished. On the other hand, ed

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<v Speaker 2>Sell was urbane and sophisticated. Henry did trust experts. Edseell

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<v Speaker 2>admired them. Henry had little interest in the arts. Edzell

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<v Speaker 2>was a great patron of music and art in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>He commissioned the monumental Detroit Industry Murals from Mexican artist

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<v Speaker 2>Diego Rivera for the Detroit Institute of Arts, and let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you, if you are ever in the Motor City,

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<v Speaker 2>you must must go see them. Henry never drank and

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<v Speaker 2>kept a close circle of friends. Edsell loved to socialize.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people talk about work life balance today. Did

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<v Speaker 2>they differ on that score?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely? Henry lived and breathed his work. Even when he

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<v Speaker 4>was at home, he was still thinking about what was

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<v Speaker 4>going on at the Ford Motor Company. Whereas Edsel he

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<v Speaker 4>would put in his forty hours of fifty hours, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it took in the company. But when he went home,

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<v Speaker 4>that was his time to enjoy with his family, to

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<v Speaker 4>enjoy recreational pursuits, to enjoy education in Richmond, whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Edseell married Eleanor Clay in nineteen sixteen. They wasted no

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<v Speaker 2>time in starting a family. Their first child, Henry Ford,

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<v Speaker 2>the second, was born in nineteen seventeen. They went on

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<v Speaker 2>to have three more. Now, in terms of whom you'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather have.

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<v Speaker 4>As a boss, Henry had a very gruff management style,

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<v Speaker 4>his way or the highway. Edzel preferred to let people

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<v Speaker 4>talk about different options and think it over and come

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<v Speaker 4>to a logical conclusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Edseel was just a lot friendlier.

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<v Speaker 4>And ed made a point of greeting everybody on the

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<v Speaker 4>way into work in the morning, from the people on

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<v Speaker 4>the ground level there right on up to the senior executives.

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<v Speaker 4>And Henry always had a kind of a holder look

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<v Speaker 4>about him, particularly as he got older, you know, almost

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<v Speaker 4>a scowl about him, which would make him a little scary.

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<v Speaker 2>And not to be rude, but from certain angles he

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<v Speaker 2>could look like mister Burns from the Simpsons.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an adequate embarrasson I think there.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if Henry was a jealous of his son

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<v Speaker 2>when he saw how much employees liked Edsel.

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<v Speaker 4>I would imagine to some extent too, Henry was probably

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<v Speaker 4>yellis just of Edzel's youth. It's inevitable as we get older,

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<v Speaker 4>and here's Edzel rising up and just hitting the peak

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<v Speaker 4>in the prime of his own life. And it's a

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<v Speaker 4>time that's passed for Henry. So that had to have

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<v Speaker 4>been a part of it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Henry ever try to undermine his son?

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, Henry undermined his son at just about every turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Edseell may have been the company's president, but Henry never

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<v Speaker 2>actually gave up the wheel. He retained full authority. Case

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<v Speaker 2>in point, when the Highland Park plant was becoming overcrowded,

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<v Speaker 2>senior managers appealed to Edseell.

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<v Speaker 4>So after listening to this and seeing the evidence, Edgel said,

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<v Speaker 4>let's build an annex, a new building for administrative offices.

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<v Speaker 4>And they gotten to the point where they dug a

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<v Speaker 4>hole for the foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Henry saw the hole, he didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>He put the kebash on Edsel's expansion plans.

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<v Speaker 4>And try to reason with his father pushed back against

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<v Speaker 4>this idea. Henry wouldn't hear it, and Edsel finally just

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<v Speaker 4>as okay, fine, we'll close everything down, We'll fill in

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<v Speaker 4>the hole. You'd think that would be the end of it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't. Henry said no, no, don't fill in

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<v Speaker 4>the hole. Leave it that way. And so for several

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<v Speaker 4>months afterwards, everyone who came into Ford Motor Company saw

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<v Speaker 4>this big, gaping hole in the ground. They were infect

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<v Speaker 4>reminded every morning of who had the final say at

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<v Speaker 4>Ford Motor Company. So absolutely humiliating.

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<v Speaker 2>And to do that to his own son, yeah, very

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<v Speaker 2>very cruel. Driving father and son farther apart where they're

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<v Speaker 2>differing views on the world. Henry was viciously and very

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<v Speaker 2>publicly anti semitic.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the darkest stain on Henry Ford's character and

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<v Speaker 4>one that has not gone away and won't and shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a virulent antisemit.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighteen, Henry purchased the Dearborn Independent newspaper, which

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half later under his direction, began

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<v Speaker 2>publishing a series of articles entitled The International jew The

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<v Speaker 2>World's Problem, which claimed there was a vast Jewish conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>and blamed the Jewish people for everything from war to

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<v Speaker 2>jazz music. The newspaper was distributed at dealerships across the country,

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<v Speaker 2>reaching a circulation of nine hundred thousand, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Edzell and Clara too. To their credit, they were on

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<v Speaker 4>the board of directors quote unquote of the Dearborn Independent

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<v Speaker 4>because it was owned entirely by the Ford family. They resigned.

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<v Speaker 4>Edgell in particular, said no, I'm not going to have

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<v Speaker 4>anything to do with this newspaper. He knew he couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>stop his father from publishing it, but at least he

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't going to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in the mid nineteen twenties came a rift

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<v Speaker 2>over Henry's other child, his beloved Model T.

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<v Speaker 4>The car was absolutely cutting edge in nineteen oh eight

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen oh nine when it was built and introduced, but

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<v Speaker 4>by the mid twenties eight to ninosaur.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chevrolet was helping General Motors roar passed Ford. But

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<v Speaker 2>Henry didn't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>That slump in the Model Tea's sales which really fall

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<v Speaker 4>off a cliff. Starting about nineteen twenty five is where

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<v Speaker 4>the break between Henry and Edsel really begins, where they're

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<v Speaker 4>more or less friendly and familial relationship starts to fall apart.

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<v Speaker 2>After years of pleading, Edzell finally convinced Henry to trade

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<v Speaker 2>in the Model T for the bigger and better looking

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<v Speaker 2>Model A.

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<v Speaker 4>The Model A is no doubt the first Ford automobile

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<v Speaker 4>that had real style to real class.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, it seems like the cars that each of them

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<v Speaker 2>championed were sort of a reflection of them temperamentally right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Model T so important, ultimately very practical, The Model

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<v Speaker 2>A nicer to look at, more comfortable to drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>With its design supervised by Edseel, the Model A went

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<v Speaker 2>on to sell over four and a half million and

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<v Speaker 2>put Forward back on top. Henry took the credit, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was Edsel's triumph and not his only one. Ed

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<v Speaker 2>Soul was the driving force behind Ford's first luxury vehicle,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lincoln Continental, which architect Frank Lloyd Wright called the

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<v Speaker 2>most beautiful car in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>To this day, critics enthusiasts alike will refer to it

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<v Speaker 4>as one of the most beautiful American production cars ever built.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States, even when it is running and low,

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<v Speaker 3>is a pretty big business proposition.

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<v Speaker 2>You are now hearing rare audio of the press shy

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<v Speaker 2>ed soel Ford appearing alongside his father in nineteen thirty five.

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<v Speaker 3>What I believe the country is getting ready to make

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<v Speaker 3>a very decided step forward next year, and we are

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<v Speaker 3>doing all we can to help it along. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think of that, Brodoc? But I think everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>decided that they've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to go to work.

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<v Speaker 2>By that point, Ford Motor Company, under ed Sel, was

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<v Speaker 2>playing a major role in aviation.

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<v Speaker 4>People might not realize Ford Motor Company was very busy

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<v Speaker 4>in the aviation business in the nineteen twenties into the

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<v Speaker 4>very early nineteen thirties. They built one hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 4>nine four Trimotor airplanes, which were really the first successful

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<v Speaker 4>all metal commercial aircraft flown in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>When America entered World War II, Edsel oversaw production of

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<v Speaker 2>one bomber per hour at the company's Willow Run plant.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Edseel that was there running the company, meeting

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<v Speaker 4>with the government, meeting with the military, making things happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's too much of a stretch to

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<v Speaker 4>say that Edgell made his dying breadth toward for World

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<v Speaker 4>War II production of Ford Motor Company. He gave his

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<v Speaker 4>every last ounce to that effort.

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<v Speaker 2>It was during the war, in nineteen forty three that

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<v Speaker 2>Edseell began experiencing intense pain in his stomach. His physician

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosed him with ulcers. When the pain didn't subside, Edseell

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<v Speaker 2>visited specialists who discovered that he was suffering from stomach cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>Sadly, at that point it had spread to other organs,

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<v Speaker 4>and you have to wonder if they had not misdiagnosed

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<v Speaker 4>it as ulcers. You know, even in the early forty

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<v Speaker 4>stomach cancer wasn't necessarily fatal.

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<v Speaker 2>But even as he weakened, Edzell continued working at the office,

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<v Speaker 2>does he tell his father?

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<v Speaker 4>Edgell tells his father about his condition. Unfortunately, Henry sort

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<v Speaker 4>of dismissed the whole thing. He said, well, no, Edgell's

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<v Speaker 4>just feeling sick because he's partying too much, he's drinking

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<v Speaker 4>too much, he's not eating the right foods, and Henry

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<v Speaker 4>was a fanatic on diet. I think Henry refused to

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<v Speaker 4>accept that his son could be terminally ill because this

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<v Speaker 4>was the person who was going to keep for Boter

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<v Speaker 4>company going.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually, Edzell was confined to his home in Gross Point.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry and Clara visited their son's bedside, but even in

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<v Speaker 2>Edzell's final weeks of life, Henry was ignoring reality, insisting

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<v Speaker 2>to associates that Edzell would be back at work in

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<v Speaker 2>just a few weeks. Edzell Bryant Ford died on May

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ninth, nineteen forty three. The obituary from the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times read, in the untimely death of Edsel Ford

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<v Speaker 2>at age forty nine, the nation has suffered a serious loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Self effacing and instinctively avoiding the limelight. He had been

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<v Speaker 2>for more than two decades, in every sense, a full

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<v Speaker 2>partner of his father.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a great story about some of the Ford production

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<v Speaker 4>managers coming in to work the day after Edgel passed

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<v Speaker 4>away and seeing the flag and half deaf, and they

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<v Speaker 4>just upped the car and kind of burst into tears

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<v Speaker 4>because they all knew what that meant and who they

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<v Speaker 4>had lost. So, you know, people really did admire Edsel,

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<v Speaker 4>and in whole life, Henry had just been trying to

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<v Speaker 4>turn Edseel into something that he wasn't He wanted his

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<v Speaker 4>son to be more like himself, the same personality, the

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<v Speaker 4>same kind of throat instincts, and that just wasn't going

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<v Speaker 4>to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>After Edzell's death, had his own health went into rapid decline.

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<v Speaker 2>He suffered a series of small strokes and a brain hemorrhage,

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<v Speaker 2>and four years later died at his home in Dearborn

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<v Speaker 2>on April seventh, nineteen forty seven. A decade later, the

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<v Speaker 2>Ford Motor Company debuted its ed Cel line. How should

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<v Speaker 2>edsel Ford be remembered?

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<v Speaker 4>Edsel Ford should not be remembered for the Edseel automobile.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's one of the great ironies in American automotive history.

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<v Speaker 4>People hear that name, they think about that failed car,

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<v Speaker 4>and of course only did he have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 4>with it. It really is the antithesis of what he stood for.

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<v Speaker 4>And he should be remembered for his successes, certainly aviation

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<v Speaker 4>for the Lincoln Continental, and he should also be remembered

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<v Speaker 4>for his work during World War Two. So there's no

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<v Speaker 4>question that he served his country in the highest and

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<v Speaker 4>best sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up the Adams family, a NEPO baby seeks to

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<v Speaker 2>redeem his father at the ballot box.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he realized that he would have to carry

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<v Speaker 5>on the family's name but also make it his own.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine a Mount Rushmore of Nepo babies. We would probably

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<v Speaker 2>include edsel Ford. We'd also have to save a spot

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<v Speaker 2>for Jesus, since after all, he's the son of God.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd give the third spot to e Liza Minelli. She's

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<v Speaker 2>the daughter of Judy Garland and director Vincent Manelli, so

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<v Speaker 2>she had a leg up in Hollywood from birth, but

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<v Speaker 2>she earned that Oscar for Cabaret. As for that fourth slot, well,

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<v Speaker 2>considering that the actual Mount Rushmore is for presidents, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>giving it to our sixth president, who was also the

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<v Speaker 2>son of our second president. I'm talking about John Quincy Adams.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes it's Quinsy, not Quincy. Now edsel Ford's father

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<v Speaker 2>helped invent the modern age, that's daunting. But John Quincy

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<v Speaker 2>Adams's dad helped invent a country, the United States. When

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<v Speaker 2>your father is not just your father, but is a

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<v Speaker 2>founding father, that's got to be a lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a tremendous amount of pressure. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 5>any of the founders. It's John and Abigail Adams.

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<v Speaker 2>Alexis co is a presidential historian. She calls John and

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<v Speaker 2>Abigail the original helicopter parents. And yes, I realized helicopters

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<v Speaker 2>didn't exist in the colonial era, but you get the picture.

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<v Speaker 5>They were involved in every aspect of their children's life.

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<v Speaker 2>They were all up in it, right.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a really long to do list. It's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 2>Just one item on that list translating the works of

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<v Speaker 2>Greek historian Thucydides. Mind you, Quincy was just ten years

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<v Speaker 2>old at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>And from a young age he showed promise. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>just that he was the eldest son, It's that he

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<v Speaker 5>was exceptional.

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<v Speaker 2>The second of six, Quinsy was born July eleventh, seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven in Braintree, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 5>He is funny, he is pithy, but he's so serious

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<v Speaker 5>and like his parents, and more like his father, he's

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<v Speaker 5>always stressed out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, this is not a normal child rearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Aside from being the son of a founding father. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a revolution going on.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Literally outside their home they're seeing soldiers march by. They

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<v Speaker 5>are aware that they are a prominent family in what

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<v Speaker 5>the British are calling a rebellion. They're not calling it

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<v Speaker 5>a revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>If this rebellion fails, his father could be executed right.

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<v Speaker 5>Very likely it is a treasonous act.

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<v Speaker 2>During the height of the Revolutionary War, the young boy

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<v Speaker 2>traveled with his father on missions to Europe on behalf

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<v Speaker 2>of the fledgling Republic. Crossing the ocean wasn't exactly smooth

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<v Speaker 2>sand First, their ship was struck by lightning, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they traded fire with and captured an enemy vessel. At

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<v Speaker 2>the ripe old age of fourteen, Quincy was sent off

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<v Speaker 2>without his father to Russia, where he served as secretary

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<v Speaker 2>to the American diplomat, Francis Dana. The CBS News archives

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<v Speaker 2>don't go back that far, but here's the dramatized version

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<v Speaker 2>courtesy of the HBO John Adams mini series, with the

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<v Speaker 2>excellent Paul Giamatti in the title role.

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<v Speaker 8>You must not let the idea of going to Russia

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<v Speaker 8>frighten you. You're fourteen years old, Johnny, already a man

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<v Speaker 8>and never one for childish pursuits. Yes, and I have

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<v Speaker 8>confidence that you will make both of us very proud.

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<v Speaker 9>I would rather stay you with you, father.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny. When I was fourteen, my father was sending me

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<v Speaker 2>off to the drug store with quarters to play Ms.

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<v Speaker 2>Pac Man. Now, even as a kid, Quinsy documented it all,

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<v Speaker 2>but his diaries had pictures.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a doodler, So we have all these great journals

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<v Speaker 5>in which he's drawing ships and people, and he's writing

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<v Speaker 5>not only for himself and for the letters he has

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<v Speaker 5>to write home, but also because he's really aware that

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<v Speaker 5>they are significant in history if they make it. But

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<v Speaker 5>if they make it.

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<v Speaker 10>I love though that he's doodling because it's the reminder

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<v Speaker 10>that he's just a kid. He's fourteen, so he's doodling

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<v Speaker 10>in the eighteenth century equivalent of a trapper keeper basically right.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And while there were no pop stars around back then,

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<v Speaker 2>Quincy definitely had an American idol.

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<v Speaker 5>He was nothing short of a fanboy for George Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>When he was abroad on his own and he was

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<v Speaker 5>living at the Hague, he put up what is basically

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<v Speaker 5>the equivalent of a poster of George Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>And George Washington was impressed by young Quincy, as were

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<v Speaker 2>many of the founding fathers.

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<v Speaker 5>They all believed that he had incredible potential to continue

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<v Speaker 5>their legacy without However, nepotism, because, of course, we were

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<v Speaker 5>not a monarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Most of the children of the founding fathers could

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<v Speaker 2>only land jobs through their connections. By and large, they

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<v Speaker 2>were a pretty mediocre bunch, including Quinsy's own siblings. His

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<v Speaker 2>brother Charles was described by their father, John Adams as

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<v Speaker 2>quote a madman possessed of the devil. At fifteen, Charles

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<v Speaker 2>was caught streaking across Harvard Yard. By age thirty, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>abandoned his law practice, and his family brother Thomas, was

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<v Speaker 2>described as a bully and a brute, and was equally unsuccessful.

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<v Speaker 2>Their sister Nabby, married a man, Abigail Adams, deemed wholly

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<v Speaker 2>devoid of judgment. His shady business dealings consigned Nabby to

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<v Speaker 2>a life of financial insecurity. Quincy, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>sought only to please John and Abigail. The first and

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<v Speaker 2>deepest of all my wishes, he wrote, is to give

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<v Speaker 2>satisfaction to my parents. He graduated with highest honors from Harvard,

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 2>whereby all accounts, he kept his clothes on in public,

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<v Speaker 2>before embarking on a brilliant career in diplomacy, serving every

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<v Speaker 2>president from Washington through Monroe. Quinsy helped negotiate the Treaty

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 2>of Ghent ending the War of eighteen twelve, and as

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<v Speaker 2>President Monroe's Secretary of State, he formulated the policy barring

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<v Speaker 2>European involvement in the Americas, also known as the Monroe Doctrine.

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<v Speaker 2>Now early in his diplomatic career, his father served as

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<v Speaker 2>the nation's first vice president. Then in seventeen ninety six,

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>John Adams was elected the nation's second president. Shortly after

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>his father's inauguration, Quinsy married the British Louisa Catherine Adams.

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<v Speaker 2>She would become our first fife foreign born first lady.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have four children. Of course, there were some

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>family drama of their own when they named their eldest

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<v Speaker 2>after none other than George Washington.

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<v Speaker 5>Which was not totally unheard of, but it's certainly significant

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<v Speaker 5>to name your child George Washington when your father was

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<v Speaker 5>also kind of a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask did that hurt his parents' feelings.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what's interesting is John Adams would complain about the

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<v Speaker 5>smallest of things for pages upon pages, and he would

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<v Speaker 5>not only do it in one letter, he'd repeat it

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 5>in nine different letters. But sometimes he left this kind

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<v Speaker 5>of personal business. Shall we say to Abigail, and Abigail

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<v Speaker 5>wrote to Quincy's brother that when Quinsy named his child

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<v Speaker 5>George Washington, that it hurt his father's feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems that Quinsy got the memo. He named his

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<v Speaker 2>second son, John George Washington Adams, was born just a

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<v Speaker 2>few months after his grandfather was voted out of the

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<v Speaker 2>White House. John Adams was the first president to lose

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<v Speaker 2>a bid for reelection and serve only one term, a

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>tough pill to swallow for the whole Adams family. How

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<v Speaker 2>did this affect John Quincy Adams.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he realized that he would have to carry

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<v Speaker 5>on the family's name but also make it his own.

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>And so Quincy decided to run for president in eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four. According to biographer Paul C. Nagel, one of

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Quincy's motives was to quote emulate or surpass his revered

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>father's distinguished career and thereby burnish the Adams family name.

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<v Speaker 2>After a nasty four way race that included Andrew Jackson,

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<v Speaker 2>John Quincy Adams was elected our sixth president. When he

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<v Speaker 2>notified his father, the aging and normally reserved former president

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<v Speaker 2>responded movingly, never did I feel so much solemnity as

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<v Speaker 2>upon this occasion, the multitude of my thoughts and the

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<v Speaker 2>intensity of my feelings are too much for a mind

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<v Speaker 2>like mine. In its ninetieth year.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the first American dynasty. It's significant. He's proud, but

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<v Speaker 5>he's also got to then sort of instill certain boundaries

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<v Speaker 5>with his father, with other people, and he's well aware

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<v Speaker 5>that he needs to be his own.

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<v Speaker 1>President.

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<v Speaker 2>John Quincy Adams became the first non founding father to

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<v Speaker 2>hold the nation's highest office, but he'd seen all his

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<v Speaker 2>predecessors in action up close. This is where being a

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<v Speaker 2>NEPO baby, I think is probably useful for everyone, because

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of knew all these guys growing up.

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<v Speaker 5>He did, and he took notes. He understood it was

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<v Speaker 5>a great privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>Alas much like his father's time in office, Quinsy struggled.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 2>He'd come into the office without a popular majority, and

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<v Speaker 2>throughout his term he faced opposition on everything from his

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>support for education to his proposal for a national observatory.

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<v Speaker 2>His happiest time as president kneeling in the White House

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 2>garden growing vegetables. It was during his term that his

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<v Speaker 2>father died on July fourth, eighteen twenty six, the very

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>same day, Thomas Jefferson died, the fiftieth anniversary of the

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>country's founding. Yes, that sound you're hearing is thunder. In

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<v Speaker 2>the following presidential election, a dispirited Quinsy was trounced by

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Jackson. He returned to Massachusetts an unsuccessful one termer,

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<v Speaker 2>the only one term president since his father.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he almost always felt like he was on

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<v Speaker 5>the precipice of failure. To have it realized was probably

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<v Speaker 5>the worst thing that ever happened to him.

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>And then months later a terror personal loss. His son,

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>George Washington Adams died by suicide by throwing himself from

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>a ferry into the Long Island Sound. Quinsy, like John

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<v Speaker 2>Adams before him, was a demanding father, and it may

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>have been an imminent confrontation with the old man that

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 2>pushed George over the edge. At this point, John Quincy

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<v Speaker 2>Adams could have retired to a quiet life.

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<v Speaker 5>He would have felt as if he was wasting his potential,

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<v Speaker 5>because these are people who believe in service.

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<v Speaker 2>Service is the family business.

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<v Speaker 5>Service is the family business, because the family business is America.

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<v Speaker 2>John Quincy Adams did not retreat into private life. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>after much encouragement, he decided to run for a seat

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<v Speaker 2>in the House of Representatives from his home state of Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>and he won in a landslide. But wasn't this a

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<v Speaker 2>step down from the presidency.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely not. It's doing real work, meaning legislation, representing people,

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<v Speaker 5>not just this performance of being the president and hosting

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<v Speaker 5>and all those things which nobody really likes. You're actually

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<v Speaker 5>doing work, and I think he loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>At age sixty four, service in Congress meant a chance

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<v Speaker 2>at redemption for himself and the Adams family, and in

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 2>this final act Quincy found a new passion in the

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<v Speaker 2>fight against slavery. It's important to note of the first

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<v Speaker 2>twelve presidents, John Adams and John Quincy Adams were the

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<v Speaker 2>only two not to own slaves.

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<v Speaker 9>This is the most important case I've come before this

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<v Speaker 9>court because what it didn't fat concerns it's the very

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<v Speaker 9>nature of man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Anthony Hopkins as John Quincy Adams in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven Steven Spielberg film Armistad. In eighteen thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three enslaved Africans managed to take control of their

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<v Speaker 2>captor's ship, the schooner Armistad, before the ship itself was

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 2>taken into custody off the coast of Connecticut. The fate

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>of the Africans, whether they'd be allowed to return to Africa,

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>divided the nation. The case made its way to the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court, and the now seventy two year old Quincy,

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<v Speaker 2>who had earned the nickname Old Man Eloquent, argued the

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>case on behalf of the Africans. Here's Hopkins as Quinsy,

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<v Speaker 2>addressing the court, we.

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<v Speaker 9>Desperately need your strength and wisdom to triumph over our fears,

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<v Speaker 9>our prejudices, ourselves. Give us the courage to do what

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 9>is right. And if it means civil war, then let

0:34:55.080 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 9>it come. And when it does, finally the last battle

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<v Speaker 9>of the American Revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>Quincy's stature as a former president and the son of

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<v Speaker 2>a founding father meant he could not be easily dismissed.

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<v Speaker 2>Invoking the Declaration of Independence, he called for the African's

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<v Speaker 2>inalienable rights of life and liberty to be restored. The

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<v Speaker 2>Court agreed and ruled for the Africans. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>great triumph for Quincy, perhaps the most significant of his long,

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<v Speaker 2>long career. Seven years later, moments after casting a vote,

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 2>John Quincy Adams suffered a cerebral hemorrhage and collapsed on

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<v Speaker 2>the floor of the House of Representatives. He died two

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<v Speaker 2>days later. The Bible's Book of Luke includes the verse

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<v Speaker 2>to whom much is given, much is required. You may

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 2>be more familiar with the version in Spider Man. With

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<v Speaker 2>great power comes great responsibility. John Quincy Adams used all

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 2>that he'd been given in life to serve others until

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<v Speaker 2>the very end. A Nepo baby done good, coming up

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<v Speaker 2>after the break? Is she fluffy?

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<v Speaker 1>She is definitely a fluffy dog.

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<v Speaker 2>For babies can be Nepo babies do.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Khushav and I had a very full and frank

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<v Speaker 3>exchange of views on the major issues that now divide

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<v Speaker 3>are two countries.

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<v Speaker 2>That's President John F. Kennedy in June of nineteen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 2>just back from his summit meeting in Vienna with Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>Premier Nikita Khrushchev. It was an especially tense time between

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<v Speaker 2>the superpowers. The arms race was in full swing, and

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<v Speaker 2>only months before Soviet Yuri Gagarin became the first man

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 2>in space. But in the public relations arena it was

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>no contest. The Soviets were definitely playing defense. Against JFK

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and First Lady Jackie Kennedy. So Khrushchev launched his own

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 2>charm offensive by sending a glamorous young emissary to the

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>White House. Her name was Pushinka, and she was the

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>daughter of a famous Soviet cosmonaut. When Pushinka arrived on

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 2>us soil, she was naturally met with suspicion. Could she

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>be a spy? Some wondered if she might be bugged.

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<v Speaker 2>Legendary White House correspondent Helen Thomas wrote at the time

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>that a dark eyed, platinum blonde temptress has invaded the

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<v Speaker 2>White House. But Pushenka was no spy. She wasn't even human.

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<v Speaker 2>Pushinka was a small white dog. Her name actually means

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 2>fluffy in Russian. I first learned about Pushenka back in

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>twenty oh four when I was writing my thriller about

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:18.240
<v Speaker 2>presidential pets and their secret role in presidential decision making,

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 2>entitled All the President's Pets. Pushinka was the daughter of

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the pioneering Soviet space dog Strelka. In August nineteen sixty,

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Strelka and her co pilot Belka made headlines worldwide as

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the first two dogs to come back from space. Alive.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Side note, Leika was the actual first dog in space.

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen fifty seven. The Soviets shot her into space

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 2>without any expectation she'd survive. She didn't. I don't even

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 2>want to know what the Soviets did to cats. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Pushinka was a NEPO puppy.

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<v Speaker 1>She is definitely a fluffy dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Price is the direct of the John F. Kennedy

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<v Speaker 2>Library and Museum.

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<v Speaker 1>Kushink is a beautiful dog, absolutely and a lovely temperament,

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>very friendly dog.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Kennedys were very comfortable around dogs. When they

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>moved into the White House the winter before, they brought

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>a long clipper, the German shepherd, Shannon the Cocker spaniel,

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 2>and Wolf the Irish wolfhound. And then there were all

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 2>their other pets.

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>They've got Tom Kitten the cat. They have hamsters named

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Debbie and Billy. They've got parakeets named blue Bell and

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>may Bell. It's really just incredible.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>They had a rabbit named Jaja, a gift from a magician.

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>They embrace ponies. They have three of them, right. They've

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>got Macaroni and tex and Leprechaun.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny enough, the President was allergic to both horses. And dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>But it seems he loved dogs more than he hated

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<v Speaker 2>to break out. Enter Poushinka, the only dog that came

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 2>with a passport. Seriously, she actually had a passport. I

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>like to imagine the day Poushenka came to Washington, the

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 2>other pets lined up inside the White House's grand foyer,

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>awaiting her arrival, wondering who is this mysterious creature they've

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 2>been hearing about. Suddenly the front doors open, the sunlight

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 2>floods in, first a silhouette, then the sound of the

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 2>dainty padding of feet, as the glamorous Pushinka strides in

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 2>her nose in the air, taking it all in but

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 2>not terribly impressed. The sense of nepo entitlement would be

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>galling if she weren't so beautiful. Indeed, before long, Pushenka

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 2>set tongues wagging, none more so than that of Charlie,

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>yet another one of the family's dogs, a roguishly handsome

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Welsh Terrier and favorite of the President's Soon enough, Charlie

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and Pushinka were an item.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they were exclusive, though there were certainly other

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<v Speaker 1>dogs who may or may not have been interested.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Charlie may have had the confidence to put the

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>moves on Pushenka because he too came from privilege. It

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>was said that his uncle was Skippy, the wirefox terrier

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>who famously plaid Asta in the thin Man series. So yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie was a nepo nephew. It should be noted that

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<v Speaker 2>Poushenka wasn't just physically attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a very smart dog. She learns very quickly from

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<v Speaker 1>the gardeners that she can climb the ladders on the

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<v Speaker 1>children's slide, and so they put a peanut on each

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<v Speaker 1>step to get her to climb higher and hire and

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<v Speaker 1>then learn to slide down the slide on her own.

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<v Speaker 2>The relationship between Charlie and Pushenka progressed quickly. I like

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 2>to imagine that they did that lady in the tramp

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 2>thing with the string of spaghetti. I assume all dogs

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>who fall in love do that. And in June nineteen

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 2>teen sixty three, Pushinka and Charlie became parents to four

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>adorable pups named Blackie, Butterfly, White Tip, and Streaker. President

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy dubbed the offspring Pupnicks. Five thousand Americans wrote to

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<v Speaker 2>the Kennedys pleading to adopt the Pupnicks. Two lucky Midwest

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<v Speaker 2>families were given the honors. To some the union of

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie and Pushinka became a symbol of peaceful coexistence, a

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<v Speaker 2>heartwarming image during a particularly frosty period. But just five

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<v Speaker 2>months later, the meaning attached to the dogs would change.

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<v Speaker 3>President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas.

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<v Speaker 9>Today he was shot.

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<v Speaker 1>When President Kennedy is assassinated, these pets become a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of the memories that America holds of a time

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<v Speaker 1>that ends so abruptly.

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<v Speaker 2>Within weeks of the murder of President Kennedy, the family

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<v Speaker 2>and all their pets vacated the White House. Charlie was

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<v Speaker 2>sent to live with a Secret Service agent. But what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to Prushenka?

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<v Speaker 3>So you still have Pushenka?

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<v Speaker 6>And how old is she now?

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<v Speaker 2>She's going on four years. Oh now, that's the voice

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<v Speaker 2>of Chief White House Gardener Irvin Williams. He was interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty five as part of an oral history

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<v Speaker 2>for the JFK Library. He recalled that he met with

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<v Speaker 2>Missus Kennedy just two days after the president was buried.

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<v Speaker 7>And she asked me that time, did I still want

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<v Speaker 7>Pushenka and I said I should did, and she's as well.

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<v Speaker 7>The sheika is yours forever.

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<v Speaker 6>They were very close.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Irvin Williams's son, Bruce Williams.

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<v Speaker 6>She kind of hung out in his office. I have

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<v Speaker 6>a picture of her under his death.

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<v Speaker 2>Candidly, when I wrote about Shinka in my book on

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<v Speaker 2>Presidential Pets twenty years ago, I never gave much thought

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<v Speaker 2>to what happened to her after the President's assassination. But

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<v Speaker 2>after some Internet sleuthing, we were able to track down Bruce.

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<v Speaker 2>We connected on zoom. He's now in his mid sixties.

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<v Speaker 6>I can get the picture and read to hear the caption.

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce showed me a framed photo of the famous White

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<v Speaker 2>House Rose Garden that his father helped design. Missus Kennedy

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<v Speaker 2>signed the photo.

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<v Speaker 6>She says for Irwin Williams, who made this garden so beautiful,

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<v Speaker 6>for the President who loved it so much, And it

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<v Speaker 6>says who will care for it now that he is gone?

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<v Speaker 2>With deep regrets, Jacqueline Kennedy. So, Missus Kennedy trusted your

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<v Speaker 2>father to take care of the rose garden. Yes, she

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<v Speaker 2>also trusted him to take care of Pushinka.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, And he was very happy to do that, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's when she came home to our house.

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<v Speaker 2>The Williams family lived in a more modest home in Vienna, Virginia,

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<v Speaker 2>just outside of Washington. Bruce was just six years old,

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth of five kids. So one day, just Pushenka

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<v Speaker 2>shows up in your house.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, my father comes home from work and Pushenka comes

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<v Speaker 6>in behind him, and she immediately runs under a chair,

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<v Speaker 6>and five kids are now eyeballing her, and my brother

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<v Speaker 6>sticks his hand in and she nips them. So we

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<v Speaker 6>all realized that we just need to leave her alone.

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<v Speaker 2>But Pushenka soon adjusted to her new suburban life. Often

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<v Speaker 2>she'd perch on top of the couch gazing out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>The Williams has lived on three acres, so Pushenka may

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<v Speaker 2>have very well assumed that this was her country home

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<v Speaker 2>or datcha.

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<v Speaker 6>And she knew when my father was coming home because

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 6>she would get up and go to the door. Her

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<v Speaker 6>tail was really almost like a fan or a fluff

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<v Speaker 6>or something. It was just full of hair. Was very cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And was she as soft as you wanted her to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, but she really wasn't a lap dog. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>she liked her belly to be rubbed, especially when you

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<v Speaker 6>were outside in the yard. She would like roll over

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<v Speaker 6>on her back and legs up in the air and

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 6>you could rub her belly.

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<v Speaker 2>In honor of her heritage, Bruce and his siblings photographed

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Pushinka in a Russian fur cap, and I have to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, I love this picture.

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<v Speaker 6>That was something we did as kids, so I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's when we realized that she was a Russian dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in that picture she really looks like Julie

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Christi and doctor Shabako. You can just hear Laura's theme

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<v Speaker 2>just playing from that movie there.

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<v Speaker 6>I think she was just a little princess in her

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 6>own right.

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<v Speaker 2>As for this princess's throne, my.

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<v Speaker 6>Father had a little bathroom that he would get ready

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<v Speaker 6>in the morning, and she found the niche behind the toilet,

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 6>and that was her home until nineteen seventy seven. That

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<v Speaker 6>was her happy place.

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 2>And though she had receded from the spotlight, Pushinka was

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<v Speaker 2>still receiving fan mail until the very end. Pushinka died

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy seven. She was sixteen. Bruce's father, Irvin Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>was devastated.

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<v Speaker 6>I was the one who took her to have her

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<v Speaker 6>put down, and he didn't want to be home when

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<v Speaker 6>I did that. I mean, she was really bad, but

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 6>he couldn't bring it himself to do that. So I

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<v Speaker 6>was the one who volunteered to do that. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>it was sad to do, but she was at peace.

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<v Speaker 6>That was the important part.

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<v Speaker 2>Irvin Williams died in twenty eighteen. He was the longest

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<v Speaker 2>serving gardener in White House history, serving presidents from Harry

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<v Speaker 2>Truman through George W. Bush. But he once told a

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<v Speaker 2>reporter that he would probably be remembered more for his

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 2>association with Poushenka, and it seems that Irvin Williams was

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<v Speaker 2>more than fine with that. Poushenka's ashes were sprinkled in

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 2>his casket and engraved on the back of Williams's tombstone

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<v Speaker 2>were the words with trusted companion Poushenka.

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<v Speaker 6>So she's with him the rest of his life or

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<v Speaker 6>internity wherever they're going.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Poushinka a nepo baby?

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<v Speaker 6>I would have to say yes, I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 6>the lineage she came from.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's oftentimes a bad association with nepo baby. Did

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<v Speaker 2>Poushinka give off the kind of arrogance often associated with

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 2>nepo babies.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say, no, she was just just a dog.

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<v Speaker 6>I think she'd just like to be by herself and

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<v Speaker 6>away from kids.

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