1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two or two, 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: episode three of The Daily Like Guys and Up, I 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, September 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: r I p to one of the funniest humans ever, 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Norm McDonald, Damn, that one hurts, and Rudy Giuliani and 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump are still alive. Unrelated. My name is Jack 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: O'Brien a k. If you like pina coladas and a 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: mouthful of pain, if you like sweet gorgon zola and 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: alcohol made of grain, if you like throwing up at midnight, 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: here's some cheese that is great. That is Curtesy, Here, 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Christy Alma, Gucci Mane, and I'm thrilled to be joined 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: as always buy my co ho, Mr Miles Ground, Joline 14 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Joanne Joanine Jonin. I'm begging of you, please don't peg 15 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: my man um. But that is from handoramic view on 16 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: the discord. I'm pretty sure that's hannassault. This shout out 17 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: you been a minute, I haven't heard from you. Hope 18 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: you're good. The one word switch out that is highly impactful. 19 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Please don't like my man again to that Dell Curry 20 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: viral thread where younger people were just warning him generationally, 21 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: the dating game has changed. They're pegging out here, pegging 22 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: out here. Also, there was a dress at the met 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: gala that was something about like peg Yeah, so pegging 24 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: is being like appropriated as like a feminist thing as 25 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: opposed to just the thing that people like to do. 26 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: It was Carra del Vin. Yeah, so shut up. But 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: and mine was in reference to pinut clot of flavored 28 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: cheese that we covered on yesterday's episode. That is a 29 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: thing that exists in physical space for some reason. Well, Miles, 30 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined once again by a 31 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: writer who's one of the best podcast hosts and executive 32 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: producers out here doing it in the podcast game. You 33 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: know him from stuff they don't want you to know, 34 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: ridiculous history. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Ben Bowling. 35 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: You guys have me back on, Yeah, catch him Bowling 36 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: contractually obligated, you know, because of the heart thing. Yeah, 37 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: I love having a bad looking ak. We were obligated 38 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: to have it by Ben Bowling. It's always the dip 39 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: set song Ben Bowling. Yeah. Anyway, So Chris oh Man, guys, weird, right, 40 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: just talking about time in general. You guys. Know. One, 41 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm so located in the fair metropolis of Atlanta, Georgia. 42 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: One thing. One thing that's weird and new. I got 43 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: my eyes cut up. I got lazic surgery. That's a 44 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: weird thing. There are many more important things happening in 45 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: the world. You've got those crusty patches over your eye, 46 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: like Homer Simpson after he gets the eye surgery and 47 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: the well, but I didn't. I was so I cond 48 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: curse on this one. I was so fucking stupid, man. 49 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: It didn't occur to me until I went under the 50 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: laser that oh yeah, it's eye surgery, which means you 51 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: can't look away, right, And so I had my last minute, 52 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: like I was a total worse about it, and I 53 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: was going, okay, hey, and the surgeon guy, who who 54 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: does you know, does this for a living, probably hears 55 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: this all the time, you know, just like a kid 56 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: who gets scared at the last minute on a royal 57 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: coaster a water slide. So he just went, I know, right, 58 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: and he kept going, I know it's up right, so 59 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: bright and so bright. But that was that was on 60 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: That was on me, you know, we're still over here, 61 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: as people know in the in the South, we're still 62 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: struggling against the governor Brian Kemp suppressions. Very real thing 63 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: I know out out you guys way there's a recall. 64 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, man. Walked to my local elementary school 65 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: yesterday as I do every day. Um no, that's not true, 66 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: but that is. Yeah, voted, had a nice little walk, 67 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: felt very neighborhood lee it was. It was nice. Oh 68 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: you actually you went to you filled your ballot out there. 69 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: You didn't drop the physical space. I don't know. I 70 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: always get nervous about the mail mail system, Yeah, because 71 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: all of them, because all the fraud going on. Right, Yeah, man, 72 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I saw I saw those big palettes of votes that 73 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: were being delivered for Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to I 74 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: gotta go drop mine off. I'm a bike over to 75 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: the one of the parks, like every park near me 76 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: has a Like it's the easiest thing. I more like, 77 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm like trying to figure out which park to go 78 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: to to drop off this ballot, but also get steps in. 79 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: You know that was important. All right, step it up, 80 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: step it up. Do you guys hear do you guys 81 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: hear about those uh I can't remember which state it 82 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: was in, but I think on the GOP side, people 83 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: were putting out fake ballot drop boxes. Yeah, during the 84 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: during the presidential election, right, yeah, yeah, I think they 85 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: felt like there was something like that in Texas that happened. 86 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm sure that's gonna fucking be somewhat 87 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: normal because Republicans, like their whole thing is basically, yeah, 88 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: the election was stolen there, like you won that one. 89 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Okay, they just don't have they don't have 90 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: the numbers, so they're an insurgency and they're trying to 91 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: figure out different ways to cheat. And yeah, you know, 92 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: do bad is that I'm measured by? Like how much 93 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: like like weird non FDA approved COVID treatments you can 94 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: down physically to make up for the Bawston numbers? Uh Joe, 95 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: Uh Joe. Yeah, Well that is gonna be the first 96 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: story we talked about. Ben. We're gonna get to know 97 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment, but first, 98 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: just a quick run through what we've got coming up. 99 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: It is too late for you to vote, but the 100 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: voting happened yesterday as you listen to this today, as 101 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: we record it, and you know, we don't know who won, 102 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: what the turnout was, like all that good stuff. But 103 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: Larry Elder apparently does because he's already claiming that newsome 104 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: one and cheated. So that's that's kind of a while. 105 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Come on, just like on the playground, like being like 106 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: you're cheated, like before the first shot is taken, like 107 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: in basketball or something. What huh. While you're checking it up, 108 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Facebook. There's some Facebook leaks that 109 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: are the Wall Street Journal is publishing, So we're gonna 110 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: talk about what those reveal. Uh, We're gonna talk about 111 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: the revelation in the new Bob Woodward book about just 112 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: like kind of the final days of the Trump administration, 113 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: just how upside down everything was, how close we came 114 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: to maybe going to war just to kind of make 115 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: him feel better. We'll talk about Rudy Giuliani. I mean, 116 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: this could be we might have to do an entire 117 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: week on Rudy Giuliani's nine eleven speech. But on on 118 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: the twentieth anniversary of nine eleven, for this man went 119 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: out there and really he put one on and then 120 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: put one on all of us. So we're gonna talk 121 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: about that we're gonna talk about the activist, the new 122 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: reality show that fuck all of that plenty more. But first, Ben, 123 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guest, what is something 124 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: from your search history? Uh? So recently, you guys know, 125 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: I do a show about critical thinking applied to conspiracy theories. 126 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: Recently I did an episode that had me deep in 127 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: the world of cheese, which I know sounds boring, but 128 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: it goes it goes with your excellent a k a 129 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: earlier Jack. So it turns out I got this, uh 130 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: got this lead from someone who rode into the show 131 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: and and said, Hey, it's got a weird that people 132 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: in the US eat so much cheese, right, And so 133 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: I thought, I don't know, man, I'm very I'm very 134 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: pro cheese, you know. And man, where do you get off? Sir? 135 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: That was the end of the conversation. Yeah you did 136 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: not look at anything? Yeah, yeah, I wake. Gigs are 137 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: so quick, you know. I was like, what's your phone number? 138 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: And I called him and I was like, where the 139 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: funk are you at? Are? But uh, but but what 140 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: I found out was quite interesting. It turns out there 141 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: is a real big cheese there. There is a cheese conspiracy. 142 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: A cheese spiracy to make people eat more cheese, and 143 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: it dates back to like the power of the dairy 144 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: industry in the nineteen twenties and thirties. Uh, and there 145 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: is a concerted effort to push the public into consuming 146 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: more cheese, even if the US public doesn't particularly want it, 147 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: because they got all this excess milk, right, so they 148 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: have to turn it to something that can stay at 149 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: a wol for longer. And then they have a bunch 150 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: of cheese and they're like, what are we going to 151 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: do with this cheese? So a semi like I guess 152 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: you'd call it private public thing called the National Milk 153 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Producers Federation and then the National Dairy Promotion Board. They 154 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: get to be a lot of acronyms, but what they 155 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: essentially did is they started sending scientists to these various companies, 156 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, like Taco Bell and any pizza place, and 157 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: they were infiltrating it. And their whole job was to 158 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: be like, you know, what would be badass here if 159 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: you just put just put some more cheese on it, 160 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, unfo only they weren't wrong. That was that 161 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: did make it better, But yeah, this was there's we 162 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before on the show that like 163 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: the Michael Moss, this investigative reporter wrote a book called 164 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: Salt Sugar Fat about like the history of how fast 165 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: food companies and just all food companies used science to 166 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: basically make food addictive, which is the real reason that 167 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: we have the problem a lot of the health problems 168 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: that we do. But one of the details, one of 169 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: the stories was like they had a surplus beat when 170 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: skim milk got popular. They had a surplus of milk 171 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: fat stored in like caves that were like cold, and 172 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: they just, like you basically got rid of it by 173 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: like getting Dominoes to like add extra cheese on their 174 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: food and ship exactly. Yes, yes, dude, it's it's all 175 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: the work of something called dairy Management ink and uh at. 176 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: Since they started, you know, like getting into just in 177 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Taco Bell, for instance, since they started getting involved with 178 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: that company, cheese used increased, which is nuts because Taco 179 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Bell is already very much about cheese. And I don't 180 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: mean that as a ding. I'm bro you know, put 181 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: more of that ship on. I'm part of the problem now, 182 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, because they took away the Mexi milk 183 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: that had a lot of cheese in it and the 184 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: Mexican pizza anyway. But that's funny is like at the 185 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: end of eighteen there was that story that like we 186 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: had over like almost one point four billion pounds of 187 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: surplus cheese just stockpiled in the US because they're like 188 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: what the fuck which And they all can point to 189 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the fact that people are drinking less milk so they're 190 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: having to make more cheese to be like, well, we 191 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: can just throw this ship away, and it's like, uh, 192 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: why don't you ramp this ship down? Yeah, than just 193 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: sitting We're not going to hit a point where we're 194 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: like guys that are strategic cheese stockpiles running low, Like 195 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: come on now. I mean. The one of the like 196 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: big kind of facts that we know about American diet 197 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: that is like kind of un disputable is that heart 198 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: disease went down during World War Two because of dairy 199 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: rations like like across the board. And the dairy industry 200 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: is powerful enough that they just got that ship shut 201 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: down so that it wasn't a big story. But yeah, 202 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: tut up to the dairy farmers, the less overtly sinister 203 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: big oil of America. Yeah, what is uh what's something 204 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: you think is overrated? You know. I was going through 205 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: my list of overrated things, which is alphabetical, and I 206 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: got I got to for you. I don't know if 207 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: we'll we'll agree on the first one, but I think 208 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: the met Gala this year struck me destruct me as 209 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of disassociated from the world. And I felt bad 210 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: because I love museums. But I was like, there's a 211 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: lot of other ship going on, you know, and there's 212 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: so much money involved in this, and could that money 213 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: go some more else? So maybe it's just me being 214 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: a curmudgeon. I don't know, what what do you guys 215 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: think about that? Like, I don't want to be people 216 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: should do what they want with their money, I guess, 217 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, And it's it's kind of high roading folks 218 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to say like, oh how much did that cost to 219 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And I loved I loved 220 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: the AOC dress tax the rich, right, And there was 221 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: there was another one we were talking about earlier that 222 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: what was that there was another patriarchy? Yes, yeah, that one. 223 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I felt like maybe there was 224 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: a disconnected felt a little like Hunger Games with all 225 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: the stuff people have been through. Absolutely. I feel like 226 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: the mecal is always uh you know when the like 227 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: most wealthy like are like, okay, let's this is where 228 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: we get to dress up like the Capital and Hunger Games. Yeah, 229 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: let's do It's called one percent or Halloween. Yeah in 230 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: New York every year. It's not for poor people as 231 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: you can't afford a ticket or whatever it cause. But 232 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's you know, everyone's trying to 233 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: do what they can do, something seem meaningful, other things 234 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: like you know, at the same time, like just me personally, 235 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm not as interested in the met galas that used 236 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: to be. So I forgot it happened until I saw 237 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: the pictures. Gonna be like all right, right, right, right 238 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: right right, yeah, yeah, I don't know what the who 239 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: the audience is exactly. Yeah. I mean that's a good 240 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: point again, Like I'm I love museums, and the first 241 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: thing I did was I had not really known much 242 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: about this event, and so I was like, all right, 243 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: what are they raising money for? You know what I mean? 244 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: Because if they're raising money for like literacy, or they're 245 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: raising money to combat to zis or something, then I'm 246 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: the one being an asshole, right, So I had to 247 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: had to check that real quick, and it goes to 248 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: is fundraising for the Costume Institute of the met Anyway, 249 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: I I shouldn't yuck somebody's yum, you know what I mean? 250 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: The fashion is important and cool and like a totally 251 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: valid art form. And yes, thank like historic fashions are 252 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: are very interesting. Um, they got like seven centuries worth 253 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: in their collections. So it's I think it's a repository 254 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: of some amazing human feats, which is why I had 255 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: a second answer for overrated. And I'm sure it's something 256 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: that's been on the show before. It's definitely not a 257 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: hot take. I think monarchies are overrated. Again, I stopped 258 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: with the ms on the list, just like in general, 259 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: monarchies I feel like are overrated. And a lot of 260 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: folks who live in monarchical societies have very clearly told 261 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: me that they disagree with that. With that idea, yeah, 262 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: because there's this symbolism, you know, and there's this culture, 263 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: there's this tradition, this defines our you know, group identity 264 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. But also I have to point out there 265 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: are some there are some royals who would tend to 266 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: agree with that because they left in the case of 267 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the UK, right, they to Canada, I think, and California, California, 268 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: and I I don't know, you know, maybe one of 269 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: my friends was telling me I was being a jerk 270 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: about this because he was like, you know what it is, dude, 271 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: I think you're just mad that you weren't born into 272 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: a monarchy because they would be all about it. They 273 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: hate us because they us. I had, Yeah, I had 274 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: a moment during the Trump presidency where I started wondering 275 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: if monarchies are better because they like separate out the 276 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: pageant tree and like the like there's something almost like 277 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: spiritual about like the what like the role of the 278 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: monarchy and it. But they're completely powerless, which is like 279 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: now nowadays, which I think is nice, so that you 280 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: just have bureaucrats who are in the leadership roles and 281 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: not somebody who, like you, are trying to ascribe this 282 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: like religious like aura around which I think. America has 283 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: the monarchy and the prime minister role kind of combined 284 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: into a single position and the president and that's the 285 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: first country. Yeah. But yeah, also the monarchy is kind 286 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: of weird. It's kind of weird. I mean get the 287 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: same problems either way, because at the end of the day, 288 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: no matter who you think is empower, there's plenty of 289 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: information out there to tell you who is really empower 290 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: And then you go from there because it's it seems 291 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: like they're no one is like seems more or less 292 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: susceptible to this kind of stuff. But I don't know, 293 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: it's I'm like, I gotta marriage. Yeah, we have like 294 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: ours is like the first family, and that it's just 295 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: put in. Everyone just thinks that no one can do 296 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: wrong there because president, like there is this weird default 297 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: that the president could never do anything wrong when you 298 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: say things like presidents are most they're you know, their 299 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: war criminals if you really look at paper, oh at all, Like, 300 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: let's not talk about it, not my president. Yeah, well, 301 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: there's a reason that the US has never agreed to 302 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: giving the International Criminal Court any sort of jurisdiction and 303 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: pump the brakes real quick if the conversation ever gets 304 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: within a mile of that direction. But I like, I 305 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: see what you're saying. There's also definitely a valid argument 306 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: that the US and practice is an aristocracy. It has 307 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: a lot of aristocratic values, you know, like to your point, 308 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: miles follow the money to find the power. Things like that. 309 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: It goes quickly into some cynical, possibly conspiratorial territory, but 310 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: that does not make it untrue. And and you know that, Jack, 311 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: the thing about that powerless you say, we're relatively toothless 312 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: idea of a monarchy, like a constitutional monarchy or some 313 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: other kind of coveyotted monarchy. If I remember the law correctly. 314 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: In the case of the United Kingdom, the queen in 315 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: technically do a lot of stuff like can make a 316 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: degree or can change a lot, but it's freezed some 317 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: something like comma, with the understanding that they won't actually 318 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: do this, right, which is yeah. I mean that was 319 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: the Earl of Montbotten in The Crown, like the last 320 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: season of The Crown, there was a like planned coup 321 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: that they were trying to get like this very popular 322 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: ish like lord aristocrat to organize, but they would need 323 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: the sign off of the Queen, which seems crazy, like 324 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: if we got the queen, we're good. So yeah, I 325 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: mean it's not it's not perfect, but in practice, what 326 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: is what something you think is underrage? Alright, it happened. 327 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: I played Dungeons and Dragons that it's awesome. Yeah, I 328 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: I I know it depends on you know, the personalities 329 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: of folks you you interact with, right, But it was 330 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: it was a pretty cool experience for me because I 331 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: growing up was not super good with we're at people. 332 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: So the only time I played Dungeons and Dragons, and 333 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: this is a true story, I had I had the 334 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: books and I made up like four characters, and then 335 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: I played the game by myself, which was the weirdest thing. 336 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: So it's different when there are other people and I 337 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun. I don't think I'm 338 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna end up being like, you know, like a mover 339 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: and shooter in the world of Dungeons and Dragons, if 340 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: such a thing exists. But but yeah, it was cool. 341 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: It was cool, and I was I was surprised. So 342 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: if anybody else has played that game, I would I 343 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: would be interested in hearing their experiences. I mean, Miles, 344 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: when I said that, you gotta you were like, What's 345 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: what's going on? I was just thinking of like how 346 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: I as a kid, I remember there, I had like 347 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: older family friends I would play it, and I was 348 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: just too young to like have the pay like imagination 349 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: or will to endure, like what was happening. So I 350 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: remember being like, man, fuck, I'm gonna play sucking duck hunt, 351 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: like you can keep up with this ship. And then 352 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: like later on, like when I would see actual people 353 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: like having fun, and I was like, oh damn, like yeah, 354 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I missed that boat. I mean, I played 355 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: magic the Gathering. That was probably the closest I got 356 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: to that kind of thing. But I feel like you'd 357 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: make a good dungeon master, you know, with your voice 358 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: and stuff, like if you will you say you're not 359 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: a mover and shaker. They're like, come on, man, hit 360 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: us with those sultry tones. Thank you, thank you. I 361 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I have the experience though, the only 362 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: thing that I ever knew about Dungeons and Dragons I 363 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: learned from Mazes and Monsters, the Tom Hanks movie in 364 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: which Dungeons and Dragons kills somebody, I believe, and I 365 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: was like, that's more than enough. Thank you. Not be 366 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: partaking too risky from me. Yeah, But I actually just 367 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: watched ET again, and the beginning of that is Elliott, 368 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: who's just like the cutest kid that's ever been on camera, 369 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: like in a movie before. But he's uh like too 370 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: young to play dungeons and dragons with his older brother 371 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: and his older brothers friends. That was just me to 372 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: you man. All right, let's take a quick break and 373 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: we'll come right back. And we're back. And so the 374 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: California recall officially happened yesterday, but the day before that, 375 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: I believe Larry Elder, the person who is most likely 376 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: to unseat Gavin Newsom if Gavin Newsom does get voted out, 377 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: had already published a web page that was claiming that 378 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom cheated when he won the election. That hadn't 379 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: happened yet, So okay, getting in front of it, you know, 380 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: said before, I suspect there will be shenanigans in that 381 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: we are mathematically outnumbered by almost two to one. That's shenanigans, 382 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: not math. And then this whole thing is like their 383 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: their point by point thing of like on his anti 384 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: anti voter fraud website, there's just this line that says, 385 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: these annun statistical analyzes have detected fraud in California. We're 386 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: just quote resulting in Governor Gavin Newson being reinstated as governor. 387 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: She came out Monday, So a lot of people are like, sure, 388 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I guess this is just purely how things are gonna 389 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: be run for like like Trumpist type GOP candidates. And again, 390 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: this is like the the bad I would say trend 391 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: for Republicans because they're showing now that they're not always 392 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: like these nailed on winners that they were like while 393 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: Trump was in office. That like, especially in something that's 394 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: like competitive and requires you to actually appeal to someone 395 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: who isn't just your maga base just saying stuff like oh, 396 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: like you know, he said like women aren't as smart 397 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: as men, or like there's no uh, there's no fucking 398 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: wage gap between the genders, or sing like that they're 399 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: not you're you're You're starting to make the filter a 400 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: bit finer, and not many people are going to be 401 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: part of the movement, so you know this is again 402 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: but again this is also a very trumpy move which 403 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: is sort of like predict your loss and then just 404 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: already be ready to explain it away because it wasn't 405 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: your fault. It's because of fraud and hacking and things. Yeah, 406 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: and I mean all claims that his base is going 407 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: to fully believe and react to as though the election 408 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: was stolen, like it's, uh, this is like a real, 409 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: a real problem as long as we like have the 410 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: major structures in place that we currently do. Where like, 411 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: as you said yesterday, Miles, like there there is a 412 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: huge portion of the population that gets there news from 413 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Facebook groups and that is going to continue to be 414 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: a problem until that's no longer the case. But yeah, 415 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean even look at like the people who are 416 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: willing to believe or the Elder's allegations right even before 417 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: they've even been born out by like reporting the results 418 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: of the election. It's it's all the Q and on supporters. 419 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: They are definitely there. Apparently there's like a Q drop 420 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: from eighteen that said something about like when are we 421 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: going to talk about voter fraud in California? And they 422 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: have all many Q and On believers have hung on 423 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: to that to say, like, see this is what this 424 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. This is because in in 425 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: the conspiracy, California is actually like there's more Republicans than 426 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Democrats in California according to them, So like the only 427 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: way Democrats win California is because of cheating. Because they 428 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: know this places some lib hot spot is America, so 429 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: they're they're thinking here is that Okay? Got it? If 430 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: we if like looking at this election and Larry Elder's 431 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: exposing fraud, that is going to be the domino piece 432 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: that triggers Trump being reinstated, because if we prove there's 433 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: fraud in California, then that will extend to the general action, 434 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: in which case there could be electoral votes that could 435 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: have gone to Trump, and which means that they have 436 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: to look at the other states and that it can 437 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: only be one outcome. So they've wrapped up their own 438 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: like fantasies into even this recall election. So is it 439 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: like the conspiracy is so deep that Republicans are disguising 440 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: themselves as Democrats when they vote in California? Like, how 441 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: does the is the math conspiracy? Man? They don't need to, 442 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Like everyone I know is a Republican, So how come 443 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: they're not asking me how how many lives do you know? 444 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: Like really exactly like purple hair, I don't barely see 445 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: them out. And also all of their friends on Facebook, 446 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: Like Facebook, as we're going to talk about an Instagram 447 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: and Twitter, they are filtering everything down to like minded 448 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: people posting about things that you agree with. Yeah. The 449 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: other thing is, you know the even like there are 450 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: some you know, Ann's the believers out there that are 451 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: like on the ground, and they're kind of like bummed 452 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: up by the fact that they're not seeing any fraud. 453 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: This one person posted and informs the quote, I'm working 454 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: in the election. So far, I have not spotted any 455 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: physical fraud in my county. Most workers are trying their best, 456 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: but I'm very suspicious of dominion devoting machine maker, like 457 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: that's all they could kind of give to be like, 458 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: but I'm suspicious of this machine. And then other people 459 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: are starting to scratch their little woolen heads with confusion 460 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: because they say, so, now we need a third time. 461 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: We have November three, we have the Georgia Senate runoffs. 462 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: Now we need California. Is there a point that around 463 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: here that the question can be raised. I'm not sure 464 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: patriots are in control. Are we the sheep? Oh? Boy, 465 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I mean, are we the 466 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: sheep for letting this go on? Are Are we the 467 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: ones being gas lit? Yes? But not by the people 468 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, but we're also taking those taking those suggestions, 469 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: are taking those que drops. As you can imagine if 470 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: at the end of corresponding about this and that that's 471 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: such a vague thing to say, like the state that 472 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: would be legitimately one of the world's top five economies 473 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: if it were an independent country is going to have 474 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: complications with voting. Okay, nostro damas you know. You know, 475 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: that's like, that's I think it's ridiculous to treat that 476 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: as though it is somehow prescient or specific. Yeah, well, yeah, 477 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: they're they'll be I think they'll be disappointed. It's funny, 478 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: how I mean. The pulling seemed to suggest that there 479 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: was really very difficult for the recall effort to be 480 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: pulled off by who knows. And yet I feel not 481 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: confident at all that when people are listening to this 482 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: that won't be like Elder pulls it off, Like God, 483 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: no one up Zeking is like, guys, I wish I 484 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: could be back there with you all yesterday, you know. Yeah, 485 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: in the pre Elder world. Well, let's talk about Facebook, because, 486 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: as we mentioned, it's all related the Wall Street journalism, 487 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: the process of publishing a bunch of internal documents from 488 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Facebook that basically confirm what we've suspected from the outside. 489 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: But what Facebook, you know, goes out of their way 490 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: to deny which I can't hear you hearing what was 491 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: a question? So the last two drops basically center around 492 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: the practice of white listing certain v i P accounts 493 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: and not like a handful, like five million, I believe 494 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: it is over five minutes. And then also just they're 495 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: fully aware of the harm that is being caused by 496 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: Instagram to young people. Yeah, and it's like again people 497 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: can looked at Facebook and said, why is this account 498 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: allowed to post this? Like, and many people been like, 499 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: I've had ship taken down because I said Happy Birthday, like, 500 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: and they thought something was up. I don't understand why 501 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: someone can put stuff like just straight up misinformation. And 502 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: it turns out there they had of a program called 503 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: cross check or x check, which was meant to be 504 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: like a quality control initiative program too, you know, like 505 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: that was like made to sort of make sure that 506 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: high profiles or high profile accounts weren't getting damed by 507 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: like you know, just sort of like they're they're less 508 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: than refined like sort of algorithmic process of content moderation. 509 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: But really what this ended up doing is that it 510 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: just sort of took a lot of these v i 511 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: P users, which are like celebrities politicians, journalists, athletes, and 512 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: it just shielded them from the normal enforcement process. And 513 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: so like you know, these some of these people that 514 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: were like white listed, which means like there was no 515 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: they can't get got by any of the enforcement things 516 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: we're doing. Things like for example, there you know nymur 517 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: the soccer player. It allowed him to show nude photos 518 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: of a woman who had accused him of rape to 519 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: tens of millions of his fans before the content was 520 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: moved by Facebook. It was on Instagram, was shared a ton, 521 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: and people like this is at the very least revenge born, 522 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: like whatever, however you want to take the details of 523 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: the allegations, like this can't stand. But it was because 524 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: he's a huge account and it was white listed. Other 525 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: white listed accounts in the past have said things like 526 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: vaccines are deadly, or Hillary Clinton covered up pedophile rings 527 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: quote unquote. These are the kinds of sort of stories 528 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: that you see that are on Facebook but just fall 529 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: through because some people's stature is just so high that 530 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: they don't want to get involved. Because and one of 531 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: the slides and these like internal presentations, there's like a 532 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: lot of back and forth between the employees of Facebook 533 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: and like the board and things like that. And one 534 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: of the things that it seems clear is that this 535 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: whole process of white listing these bigger accounts was because 536 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: they wanted to avoid quote pr fires her fires. Okay, well, 537 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: that is how they deal with everything, right, is they 538 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: let a fucking genocide happen, like where they are the 539 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: primary tool that is being used, and then they apologize 540 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: for it, they put out the fire. But it's always reactive. 541 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: It's never thinking in any complex way about how their 542 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: platform is being used. Because you know, it's like with 543 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: if Candice Owen's wants to post some inflammatory nonsense, it'll 544 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: it'll cook for a second before they do anything, because 545 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: to them, that's better than them doing something. And then 546 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: her saying, Facebook is you know, fucking censoring us, and 547 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: that's alid like they they have completely abdicated any sense 548 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: of responsibility over their platform, and what the you know, 549 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: the byproducts are of this and like lack of enforcement, 550 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: it's it's nuts. But two, because the what I think 551 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: that's a really astute explanation because one of the things 552 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: that I immediately thought was, Okay, they're trying to keep 553 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: their social media high rollers happy. If you look at 554 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: social media like a casino. So they're gonna they're gonna 555 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: bend the rules because they get added like credibility and 556 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: clout for being the the Internet home of of celebrity. 557 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: It does not matter who or whom, and it doesn't 558 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: matter what, you know, the politicians views are. This also 559 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: was terrible timing on their side because I'm sure you 560 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: guys noticed this. Facebook came out with some super creepy 561 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: glasses recently right there, it's their take on the Google glass, 562 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: and so that one of the big deals is, you know, 563 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: what happens with this information is this camera off? And 564 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: the issue is that that kind of technology could be 565 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: amazing in the future, but it's kind of a poison 566 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: pill for it to come from Facebook, which yet again 567 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: got caught out red handed being extremely duplicitous. You know, 568 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: and any time you ask, like you guys said, anytime 569 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: someone asked or tries to hold the organization accountable, it's 570 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: always huh Is that an interesting question? Let me explain 571 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: why if Facebook is a metaverse company and more than 572 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: a social media what no I asked you if this 573 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: if you know, if it's doing harm to young children? 574 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: So the metaverse is this, but this is their whole 575 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: strategy is they know what's happening and then when they're 576 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: in public, you just downplay the funk out of it. 577 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: And I don't think that could be clearer, especially as 578 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: it relates to the second you know drop of documents, 579 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: which had to do with their own research into Instagram 580 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: and its negative effects on Team Girls. They've out loud 581 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: many times We've heard things like, you know there, this 582 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: this is probably a broader issue, but do you know 583 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: that I don't know what the exact connection is. We 584 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: we have done some research, but it's you know, we're 585 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: not it's we're not troubled by it. Meanwhile, internally, they 586 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: are showing people slides that say social comparison is worse 587 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: on Instagram because they're saying that sort of They did 588 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: a dive into teen girl body image issues and different platforms, 589 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: saying that TikTok is short video and it's grounded in performance, 590 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: while users on Snapchat is about you know there. They 591 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: have jokey filters that keep the focus on the face, 592 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: in contrast Instagram and focused heavily on the body and lifestyle. 593 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: The features that Instagram identifies as most harmful to teens 594 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: appear to be at the platform's core. The tendency to 595 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: share only the best moments, a pressure to look perfect, 596 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: and an addictive product can send teams spiraling toward eating disorders, 597 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: an unhealthy sense of their own bodies, and depression. According 598 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: to their internal research, it warns that the Explore page, 599 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: which serves users photos and videos curated by an algorithm, 600 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: can send users deep into content that can be harmful 601 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: and the for anybody who's like, well, at least they're 602 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: doing the research and looking at this stuff the way. 603 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Article after article about the internal culture of Facebook reveals 604 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: that the person who does this research and brings it 605 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: to them or initiates the research in the first place, 606 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: that person gets ignored. Their projects don't get funded. The 607 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: person who introduces the thing that boosts you know, how 608 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: much time people are spending on the app, or like 609 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: how much they're interacting with a feat for those are 610 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: the people that get promoted. And it's just it's a 611 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: completely like at a cellular at the like level of 612 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: DNA of the company is just incapable of doing the 613 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: right thing on this isn't there argument also something like gosh, 614 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: this is really complicated. Okay, we've got a lot of 615 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: like competing voices where we're hearing them out, you know, uh, 616 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: and we're we're you know, we're comparing these things very carefully, 617 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: like all the kind of you know, weasley things I 618 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: hear you type things to say. But it sounds to 619 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: me if this is if this is a pattern that 620 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: has been similar to other companies in the past, like 621 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: maybe oil companies or tobacco companies. Uh, And I don't 622 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: think that's an unfair comparison. If it's similar to the 623 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: way they handled research, then it sounds like they're looking 624 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: for that needle in the haystack thing that kind of furthers, 625 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: you know, their ideology or the way would like to 626 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,479 Speaker 1: be portrayed in public. So they'll go past ninety nine 627 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: studies that all agree to find one that says like, well, 628 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,760 Speaker 1: Instagram is actually you know, good for capabaras or something. 629 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: I do think it makes your body stronger. And I 630 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: do think comparisons to tobacco and even fast food, even 631 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: though like the food industry is still you know, basically 632 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: doing doing bad things. But I think it almost understates 633 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: the problem because of how these social media companies have 634 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: basically taken over advertising, which is such a massive industry 635 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: and like change the face of just like how companies 636 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: think about like consumers. It's going to be incredibly difficult 637 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: to reverse any of this. And it's also a problem 638 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: that shows up in people's mental health, and mental health 639 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: is not a thing that you can like draw one 640 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: to one comparison to, like you can on like smoking 641 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: causing cancer. You know, it's kind it'll be easy for 642 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: them to come up with their own research problem. Yeah, 643 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: And that was the thing when you know, Zuckerberg was 644 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: up and testifying in front of the Senate, they were like, yeah, 645 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: can we see your research into this topic, like, you know, 646 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: like we're really curious from your perspective what you're seeing. 647 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: And later on they got this letter that had nothing 648 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: to do with what they asked for, and they said, 649 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about the metaverse many challenges with conducting 650 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: research in this space. Quote we are not aware of 651 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: a consensus among studies or experts about how much screen 652 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: time is too much? Okay. They also told the senitors 653 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: that their internal research is proprietary and quote kept confidential 654 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: to promote frank and open dialogue and brainstorming internally. Even 655 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: though these leak dialogue show. There was no frank and 656 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: open dialogue. It was like and right, you know, it's 657 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: just so you know, they know what they're doing and 658 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: they keep doing it. You know. I'm not sure what 659 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: else will find out during the course of all these 660 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: like as this investigation kind of plays out from the 661 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, but I'll be shocked if it's anything positive. 662 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 1: And you'd hope that for people who have the responsibility 663 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: to look at things like this to regulate them, you'll 664 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, Yeah, they don't give a fuck. Yeah, 665 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: they're just they just see how much revenue they get 666 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: from advertising and it doesn't matter. And it's and I 667 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: get why it's a lucrative product for people who make products, 668 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: because the way Facebook says, like, you know, I can 669 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: get in the fucking head of the most specific person 670 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: right now, who you want to sell this orange basketball 671 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: to someone who's five three and is a polyglot with 672 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: who went to college on the West Coast say less? 673 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: And and what's the fucking point anyway? Like it's because 674 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: and we talk, I mean, it's like a trope on 675 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: Twitter all the time and on social media everyone laughs 676 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: about it's like, oh my god, man, I just bought 677 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: n things off Instagram or like these Instagram ads or 678 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: fucking like they're speaking right into my head. Yeah, because 679 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: they've built all this psychographic data through the platform. Yeah 680 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: that every time like that happens, you are basically losing 681 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: free will, handing it over to Facebook basically to make 682 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: decisions for you. And you know, I'm not begrudging people 683 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: for making that choice, but it just sucks. It's a 684 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: shitty situation that we found ourselves in. It's a shifty 685 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: choice to have to make in the first thing, you know, 686 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: And and uh, I would highly highly recommend checking into 687 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: ad blockers. They're they're different extensions. You can get that will. 688 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: They used to take them away all all entirely, right, 689 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: but they can at least mitigate some of that experience. 690 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: And you know, there's I don't know if there's a 691 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: way to like screw the lid of Pandora's jar back 692 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: on in this regard, like social media has replaced so 693 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: many things for people. In some cases, it's replaced human interaction. 694 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: In some cases it's replaced like your source of news, 695 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: and it is it is profit driven, right, It's it's 696 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: not for the people aren't thinking how can this pervasive 697 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: persuasive technology make the world a better place. They're not 698 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: thinking about that. They're like, who who would buy this? 699 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: But day you guys think, is it is that guy 700 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: from earlier? Say less m Yeah, that turns out with me. 701 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be 702 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: right back. And we're back. I just saw a quote 703 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: from Governor Newsome's team that says, no scenario we lose. 704 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: So I can basically take that to mean that that 705 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: they have lost by the time you're listening to this 706 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: and apologies to the future. All right, let's talk really 707 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: briefly about the latest revelations in this Woodward book Peril, 708 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: about the kind of transition from Trump to Biden. One 709 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: of the revelations is that China was convinced that because 710 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: Trump was getting belligerent just leading into the election, as 711 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: he kind of faced the possibility that you might lose, 712 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: that you know, the US government was unstable, the transfer 713 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: of power was up in the air, and he was, 714 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, starting to talk about starting a war with 715 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: China or Iran, and to the point that one of 716 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: the generals had to call his Chinese counterpart and say, 717 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: this is a quote I want to assure you that 718 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: the American government is stable and everything is going to 719 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: be okay. We are not going to attack or conduct 720 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: any kinetic operations against you. That ship was so first 721 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: of all, that's just like what what you say, like 722 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: that sounds like a publicist talking about about a person 723 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: who was just like, you know, been checked in somewhere. 724 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: But that was before the attacks of January six, at 725 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: which point they were certain something bad was going to 726 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: happen because they were witnessing what was clearly an attempted coup. 727 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: To everyone outside of the country, I feel like because 728 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: we still live in this country with like Fox News 729 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: and Trump supporters were probably like uniquely insulated from the 730 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: truth of like how dangerous that situation was. But after 731 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: January six, China was freaking the funk out and the 732 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: military had to like actually make changes to delay military exercises. 733 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: So in this second call to address Chinese fears about 734 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: the events of January six, General Milly promised, we are 735 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: one steady, everything's fine, but democracy can be sloppy sometimes, 736 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: and that didn't want they were still rattled. Yeah, he 737 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: also felt the need after that call to confirm with 738 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: the people responsible for physically launching nuclear weapons that he 739 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: had to be involved with the process, Like he was like, okay, 740 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: so just so we're clear, let's run it through. He 741 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: could come in here start telling you to launch nowkes 742 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: at China, but you have to bring me into the 743 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: room too, like I have to be involved in that conversation. 744 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: And so and by the way, this is somebody that 745 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: was appointed by Trump, so this is not a deep 746 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: state actor from like the Obama administration. The head of 747 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: the CIA also a Trump point. He was of the 748 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: opinion that America was on the way to a right 749 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: wing coup. So yeah, it was as bad as it 750 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: as it looked. Basically, is what is what you're hearing? 751 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 1: Like literally, this is a quote the CIA director Gina 752 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: Haspell instance reportedly told Milly quote, we are on the 753 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: way to a right wing coup. So yeah, oh what 754 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: do you know, Gina Haspell, your black site operator, I 755 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 1: know a thing or two about seeing a coup. Okay, 756 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: yea the one thing that is that sort of ship. Yeah, 757 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: it's true. Everybody outside of the United States, I knew 758 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: that they agreed, right, No one was ever like nobody 759 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: was saying, well, you know, democracy can be sloppy. Sometimes 760 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: they're like, right, what the funk is happening over there? 761 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: And then imagine like all the tense Joe political ship 762 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: that's already up in the air, right and very in 763 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: many cases, very much like just a few bad calls 764 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: or a few misinterpretations from going very wrong, very quickly. 765 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: You see that, and you're like, well, can we Like, 766 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't think people often understand in the United States 767 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: that peaceful transfer of power is one of the sort 768 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: of golden geese of of any nation state. And it's not. 769 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: It feels like it's a sure thing for a lot 770 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: of people who grew up here because it almost always was, 771 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: but that never guarantees that it will be the case 772 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: the next time that power is transferred. And like, other 773 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: countries are very very familiar with this, And this is 774 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: like any time you hear about an election coming up 775 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: in any country, you can be you can be a 776 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: d certain that the world's intelligence agencies and the big 777 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: corporations are keeping a close eye on it, because if 778 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: ship's gonna go wrong, that's when it's most likely to happen. 779 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: And like, I I agree with you. I think people 780 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: don't know just how dangerous or maybe don't want to 781 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: admit just how dangerous, how close this was, I mean, 782 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: is it is it like Cuban missile crisis level close. 783 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: I don't think that's hyperbolic to say, yeah, that's what 784 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: Evans always says. When he went over to Kiev to 785 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: like after that the Ukraine capital like kind of devolved 786 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: into a civil war. Like the thing he kept hearing 787 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: was people being like, I can't believe it happened here. 788 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: We never thought it could happen here. And it's just 789 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: when when it's another country, it's just like, yeah, that's 790 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: what happens in other countries, because that's the international news 791 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: that we get. But when it's your country, you're like, well, 792 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: I have a wealth of experience that tells me that 793 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: our country does not devolved it into a coup. And 794 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: I also it's now part of a political like discourse 795 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: as to whether that was even what I saw. So 796 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: it just like also, and this is gonna surprise you guys. 797 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: Turns out Mike Pence is a spineless weasel. He was 798 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: definitely considering overturning, upending the election certification. He even spoke 799 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: to And this is terrifying that the fate of Our 800 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: country was in these two guys hands. He had a 801 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: conversation with Vice President Dan Quaile, whoever saw the certification 802 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: of the ninety two election in which he was on 803 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: the losing ticket, and appeared in that conversation open to 804 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: going along with Trump's plan, pushed the false claim that 805 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: Arizona's voting systems or voting results were wrong, and asked 806 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: where whether there was any way he could delay certification. 807 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: So it was. It was on the fucking table. Things 808 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: almost went as bad as we had feared they could go. 809 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: And dan Quell is still alive. Yeah, still out here 810 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: doing it. I didn't know that from that. Let's uh, 811 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: let's talk. Rudy Giuliani also makes an appearance in this one. 812 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, look at that two for two. Yeah, he's like, 813 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he had a he had a great evening 814 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: on the twentieth anniversary of nine eleven. He went to 815 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: chip Ryani, you know, nice dinner. Christmas. You know, we 816 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: got Christmas. I think we've ever seen him, you know, 817 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: he's had some remarkable appearances on Fox where he was 818 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: a little bit uh, you know, animated, a little sloppy 819 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: with his pronunciation. But this is clearly something else, so 820 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: something that was just on such a level that he 821 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: had to do an interview with the Daily Mail the 822 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: next day to like clear up what immediately after. Yeah, 823 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: so let's check out one of his the thing that 824 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: really caught a lot of people in the UK's attention 825 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: when he was talking about, you know, kind of the 826 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: his interaction with Queen Elizabeth when he was given a 827 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: an honor after nine eleven. She said, you do us 828 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: a wonderful Joel on September living and therefore I'm making 829 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: an honorary night Commander of the Royal something. Rather I 830 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: turned down a knifehood because if you took a kniehood 831 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: you had to lose your citizenship. I know, Prince Andrew 832 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: is very credible. Now. I never went out with him, never, never, 833 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: never had a drink with him. Never was a woman 834 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: or a young girl with him. One time I met 835 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: him in my office and one time when we had 836 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: the party, right Bernie, you were there, okay uh. I 837 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: never had a drink with him. He did a voice. 838 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he he later this is this freaking interview 839 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: that he said. He defended that the Queen Elizabeth thing. 840 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: He was just spaking like he's like I wasn't mocking 841 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: the queen. Okay. First of all, it was quote an 842 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: interpretation that's totally unfair. I use an English accent. And 843 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: he goes on to say, and I have never mocked it. 844 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: I imitate Churchill sometimes he's you know he has He's like, 845 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: I have a sick English accent, like so I am 846 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: hilarious when I do an English accent that his English 847 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: accent sounds like he's got like like ship in his mouth, 848 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like that. I mean the way the way 849 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: he kicked that off was a little look two out 850 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: of ten on the attempt, Trudy. Sorry, and he he 851 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: he wanted to clarify he was not drunk, Okay, he said, quote, 852 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: I am not a drunk. I don't think I've ever 853 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: been publicly drunk in my life. The last time I 854 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: was was probably in college. I like to drink Scotch 855 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: and have cigars. That's where it probably comes from. I 856 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: drink moderate amounts of scotch. I mostly drink scotch because 857 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: I like to have it with cigars. I didn't have 858 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: a cigar last night. And this is a caricature that 859 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: the Left is trying to put on me. I can't 860 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: remember the last time I was drunk, and I'm not 861 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,879 Speaker 1: just going to put up with it anymore. I've got 862 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: to do something about it. Uh huh Okay, it sounds 863 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: like halfway through saying that denial, he started thinking about scotch. Yeah, 864 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: like imagining scotch, right, just moderate amounts of scotch. I 865 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: love Scotch, especially from the Highlands. You know, it gets 866 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 1: something like it just like at night Pete, and he 867 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: continued the that I don't know the theatrics, the tirade, 868 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: the slam dunking upon the people, but this time he 869 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: I don't even know where this one is exactly going. 870 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,919 Speaker 1: This one. He clearly has bad feelings about General Mark Milly, 871 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: who we were just talking about, and likes to call 872 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: him Miley okay, because that's how he emasculates him. I 873 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 1: guess Miley. How did how's that guy in General Jesus? 874 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: The other day he said that the backroom Air Force 875 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:42,360 Speaker 1: Base is not strategically important. I wanted to grab his 876 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: what do you have? Five stars, ten stars, twelve stars? 877 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: They have so many stars that come in up into 878 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: his ears. I wanted to grab his stars, shove it 879 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: down his throat and say it's four miles from China, asshole. 880 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 1: China is going to be our enemy for the next 881 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: forty years from them, and you're giving it up, idiot? 882 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: What the hell is wrong with you? Who pays you? 883 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump? Wow? But people like you can also just 884 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 1: feel the crowd is like scared a little bit because 885 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: it's about and he's like, I totally forgot that was 886 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: supposed to be about nine eleven. The Prince Andrew thing 887 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: was like that that performance that we just heard wonderful, 888 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: But the Prince Andrew thing was why do we think 889 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: he's started talking about Prince Andrew? Has he been alleged 890 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: to be involved in the Prince Andrew stuff? I think it's. Yeah, 891 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: it's some at some level, and maybe he's just trying 892 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: to get in front of it, like like you guys 893 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: said with Elder, But Prince Andrew is currently embroiled in 894 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: the ongoing right whether he actually got served those papers, 895 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: So it might be maybe because him and Dershowitz team 896 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: up so much. Yeah, yeah, like that, there's there's connective tissue. 897 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 1: And I mean he's been photographed with Prince Andrew before. Yeah. Yeah, 898 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: it's just such a like guilty dog barking first kind 899 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: of cliche, you know what I mean. It's like if 900 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: if you meet somebody and the first thing they say 901 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: is like, look you can sometimes helicopters go missing, and 902 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: that's the first thing they say. You're like, what the 903 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: funk is up with you with helicopters? Bro? And yeah, 904 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: it says something about the Also just like his delivery 905 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: of it too, like he's saying it like it's like 906 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: it clearly made the room feel weird too, because everyone's like, yeah, 907 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew was like a alleged like sex criminal, and 908 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: he's like, I never party with him, right, come on? 909 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,399 Speaker 1: And then they thought. Everybody's like yeah, Rudy, like that's 910 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: a grim topic and you're still up here just off 911 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: your face meanwhile saying that he's not functioning alcoholic, He's 912 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: just functioning. Yeah. It was another interesting quote from that. Yeah, 913 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: he said I'm not a Yeah, I'm I'm a functional 914 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm not an alcoholic. He like stopped himself from saying 915 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm a functional alcoholic too. And Churchill also uh famously 916 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: south Yeah throughout much World War two. Yeah, he made 917 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: it look better though, the difference between Rudy and Churchill 918 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: is Churchill makes us look good, real real. Briefly, they're 919 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: doing an apprentice for activism. It's called The Activists. Yeah. 920 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: The contestants will engage in missions, media stunts, digital campaigns, 921 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: and community events aimed at garnering the attention of the 922 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: world's most powerful decision makers. And then who decides who's 923 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: sexy enough to stay this week? Um, oh yes, not 924 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: Ussure and uh Prianka I think Jonas, yes, Chopra Jonas 925 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: and one other person who's name I'm not familiar with. 926 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: It's just so it's like it's predictable, really, it's predictable. 927 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: It's highlighting the like most cynical, bloodless version interpretation of 928 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 1: the word activism, like at a time when we need 929 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: when there's like real energy and we need people to 930 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: think of activism as something that's like approachable and can 931 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 1: affect real change. And they're doing going the root of 932 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: like well, you go with a think tank and then 933 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: you like influence the board of like BP to like 934 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: invest in your fucking prod. It's just like I just 935 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: hopefully no nobody who's interested in activism will watch this. 936 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully nobody will watch this, but especially nobody's like if 937 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: a young person is interested in activism watches that they're 938 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh fuck, like what that's what activism means. 939 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: The water is important to me, and that's why I'm 940 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: here to talk with the RAMS Corporation folks and Nestleie 941 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: and our friends of McKenzie. Right, that's where activism starts. 942 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: Tell us about your ideas. Oh and we'd love to 943 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: have you sit down with the folks at General Electric 944 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: to talk about your anti war platform. Yes, they are 945 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: so excited to speak shooting guns off right. Yeah, this 946 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: totally has that energy of like what happens in boardrooms 947 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: when like there are real stakes and but they're just like, 948 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: let's make this a weird product that has nothing to 949 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: do with what it is because we don't even understand 950 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: the importance of activism from our perspective, because nothing needs 951 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: to change based on how we live. So this would 952 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: be a fun little show, right, Like you get all 953 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 1: the people like who can make the best sign at 954 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: a protest, like with only two colors? No? No, you know, yeah, 955 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be played on poster design and I don't know, 956 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: like if they're how they honor like the actual spirit 957 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: of activism through a show like this, you know, if 958 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: you're if it's really that important, like you you'll just 959 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: you'll you'll identify people to get behind and back them, 960 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: rather than like fight it out for who's the hottest activists, 961 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: right like who like okay, one city, three protests, who 962 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: can get the most people? Everybody pull your You're gonna 963 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: pull your protests at random from this you know this 964 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: helmet and uh this helmet that was in Portland's and 965 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: your protest is going to be announced by this week's 966 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: celebrity Carrot Top top or whatever you know that's system. 967 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner pepsi commercial ass. Yes, I was thinking the 968 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: same version of activism and no hate to carra Top. 969 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: Comedy is hard. He's doing shows every day. His biceps 970 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: are harder, and comedy is hard. Biceps are harder. He 971 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: will whip the ship out of mess that carp You 972 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: should see him. He's got Bicypically Christmas, did you hear 973 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: any highlights from the Trump Evander Holyfield myself, but I 974 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 1: experience the only thing I saw was that like some 975 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: woman was screaming during the moment of silence for nine eleven. 976 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: Oh really, they couldn't even get people to shut the 977 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: funk up for a moment of silence on for nine eleven. 978 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, it is what it is. Anyways, then it's 979 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: been such a pleasure as always having you. Where can 980 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: people find you and follow you? Yeah you can. You 981 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: can learn more about my shows stuff, don't want you 982 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: to know ridiculous history wherever you find fine podcasts like 983 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Daily See Guys. You can also find me on Twitter 984 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 1: where I'm at Ben bolland hs W. You can find 985 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 1: me on Instagram where in a burst of creativity, I 986 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,439 Speaker 1: called myself Ben Bullan bo w l I N I'm sad. 987 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss Grimace you guys, I'm gonna have to 988 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: tune in tomorrow. Yeah, we're getting to that story. We're 989 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: getting one of these days, one of these days. And 990 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some of the work of 991 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 1: social media you've been I have to do it. This 992 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 1: one is I've been on some projects, so I've been 993 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 1: away from a lot of social media for a little while, 994 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 1: and I logged into Twitter and one of the first 995 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: things I saw. I'm sure you guys saw this too, 996 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: but I think we do need to mention it. Just 997 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: read it to you. My cousin and Trinidad won't get 998 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: the vaccine because his friend got it and became impotent, 999 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: his testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from 1000 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: getting married. Now the girl called off the wedding. So 1001 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: just pray on it and make sure you're comfortable with 1002 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: your decision, not bullied, Nicki Minaj September. Yeah, that will 1003 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: be in history books. The Just a response to that tweet, 1004 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 1: Roy Would Jr. Tweeted I will say this, a woman 1005 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: calling off the wedding because your boss got swollen from 1006 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine is a great villain or origin story. 1007 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Mr wood Well. Also, I also saw one where somebody 1008 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: just said, imagine you're gonna get married and your your cousins, 1009 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:41,520 Speaker 1: super famous friends tells everybody about your balls or your 1010 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: friends super famous cousin. So I mean, that's like dangerous. 1011 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 1: But is it a pr move to distract from like 1012 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: the legal proceedings with one of her family members. I 1013 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I I'm not saying it's a favorite tweet, 1014 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: but it feels like so tone deaf as to be 1015 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: calculated rather than incompetent. Totally miles, where can people find you? 1016 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: What's a tweet you've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram at Miles 1017 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 1: of Gray. Also the other show four twenty Day Fiance 1018 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: with Sophia Alexander. Check that out on twitch dot tv 1019 01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Slash four two zero day Fiance. Some tweets I like. 1020 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: The first one is from Jay Desmond Harris. Jane Desmond 1021 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Harris is a great writer, tweeted, I would pay to 1022 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: watch footage of someone doing their quote own research on vaccines. 1023 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: Share your screen, because I am absolutely dying to know 1024 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: what you're looking at. Share. I would love to fucking 1025 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: see that. I would love to see what. Yeah, okay, 1026 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: what is this website? Okay? Cool? Um? Next one is 1027 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: from at Doug Jay Bloon. The New York Times. Pitch 1028 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 1: bot tweeted opinion I was a lifelong liberal Democrat, then 1029 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: my Trinidadian cousins testicle became. And last one is from 1030 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Alice Morales at Les Navidad. A l I s ec 1031 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: tweeted my high school drama teacher would give us assignments 1032 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: then performed them himself to show us, quote what a 1033 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: hundred percent would be. Oh my god, just like sounds 1034 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: like the most amazing scene in this show. Like that? Okay, 1035 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: thank you so much use this monologue. Thank you. I'll 1036 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: just go with not that there's anything wrong with this tweet, 1037 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 1: but Miles to take Jesse at Mama Jesse C tweeted 1038 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: husband on his deathbed me, so you're on the remote. 1039 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: You can't find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. 1040 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were 1041 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook 1042 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: fan page and website Daily Zeitgeist dot com. We post 1043 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnote or we link off to 1044 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: the fromation that we talked about today's episode, as well 1045 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles, what 1046 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: song do we think people might enjoy to day? Uh? 1047 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 1: This is a This is some fun bedroom type music. 1048 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I say bedroom music because this man, this artist Spencer, 1049 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 1: he does all of because he does all his you know, 1050 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 1: he makes all his music by himself in his home. 1051 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: That means, you know, the fucking piano, guitar, bass, drums, trumpet, 1052 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: and he's got like a really dope sound and I 1053 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: really really enjoy it. And it's this track is called 1054 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: No Direction and it's from Spencer. So it's got a 1055 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 1: light of like it's like D D I Y vibes. 1056 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a solid musician, so I don't 1057 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: know it all comes together, but it's has a really 1058 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: nice tone and texture to it. So this is no 1059 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:55,479 Speaker 1: direction by Spencer. His bedroom is a mess though. Oh right, well, 1060 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: we are going to suggest you go check that out today. 1061 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: He's that guys, a auction of I Heart Radio from 1062 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the I heart 1063 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your 1064 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: favorite shows. That's gonna do it for us this morning. 1065 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: But hey, we're back this afternoon to tell you what's 1066 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 1: trending and we'll talk to you all then. Bye bye