1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and this is the first 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: of two Stuff you Should Knows that we're recording today. 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: My voice already sounds weird to me. What do you 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: mean it doesn't sound a little weird, you know how 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: like when we get towards the end of the second one, 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: or it gets a little like worn out or something. Yeah, 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: like it's been extruded through a Plato fun factory. What's 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: all that is set up? Or do you really feel 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: that way that was off the cuff? Baby, Okay, No, 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound weird to me. Your voice never sounds weird. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: Mus you're sick, Jerry Judge McCall, Yeah, Jerry Brooklyn Ti 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: she sided with me. Well, Jerry, were headphones. But you 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: and I fight the broadcasting business by being the only 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: people that don't wear headphones or cans. I never get it, 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: like your two ft from me when my headphones, I know, 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear myself anyway. I don't 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: want to hear myself better. No, it's terrible. It sounds 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: like torture that. How about this for a new s 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: Y s K T shirt? No more cans just have 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: a little X through some headphones. I think when you 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: make a step, you should know a decree from now 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: we should have like a fairy wand sound effect. We 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: just like, here's this for a new T shirt. I 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: decreate be made into existence. Yeah, we get. We're gonna 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: by the way, since I mentioned it, we're gonna have 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: some new shirts coming soon. Yeah, some good like some 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: fan designs even yep, exciting. Yeah, we and we do 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: have some now that people can go by if I 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: like those first designs we had, and I well, let's 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: just have this out on the air. It's not an argument, 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: but let's have this discussion. Are we going to retire 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the original six from the contest or should we just 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: let them keep going in perpetuity? Oh, unless there's a reason. 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I think perpetuity is the way to go. But someone 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: might like the dancing uh you know what we call that, 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the skeleton would cut Yeah, perfect parade of dancing skeletons, 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: the maccab parade, That's what I would call it. Doesn't 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: give him All six of them were excellent. The baby 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: with the fly on its forehead. Still my altime paper. 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: Good stuff. If you don't know what we're talking about, 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: go to stuff you should know dot com are venerable 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: website and uh in the top navigation there's a store 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: button and it will take your store and you can 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: see with your own very eyes, what the heck we're 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: talking about? That was off the cuff. Yeah it was. 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't like, oh, we gotta plug the T shirts. No, no, no, 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: You very rarely say things as fretfully as that, chuck. Yes, 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: do you want to talk about Plato? Yeah, we promised 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: to do this recently, and here we are. If, in 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: my defensive, is already on the list. Oh well, so 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, I'm at the beck and 54 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: call of anybody's like, do Plato do this? Do that? No, 55 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: it was already on the list. Um did you play 56 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: with Plato a lot when you're a kid? Oh? I 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: played with it. I ate it. I don't recall eating it. 58 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: I do specifically recall eating the paste that was an 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: off brand that had a purple pirate on it. Oh, 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: he was. He was a pirate wearing a purple hat. 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: And I think maybe it an orange parrot. Yeah, it 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: was the paste. Did I have a on the inside 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: the lid? Did I have a applicator attached to it? Yeah? 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: I totally ate that paste. That was the best tasting 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: paste on the planet. As a matter of fact, I 66 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: think that paste might have been manufactured in part to 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: eat like it's served to like kids, some bad kids. Yeah. Actually, 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I want to revise my statement. I take I licked 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: and tasted Plato. I don't remember like swallowing it, but 70 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I remember, like, you know, tasting it and then maybe 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: you can put it in my mouth and spitting it 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: back out. But I don't think I got you. Yeah. Um, 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: I never. I don't think I ever ate Plato in 74 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: any form or fashion. But the scent of it, it's unmistakable, unmistakable. 75 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: It's so unmistakable in fact that apparently back in two 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: thousand and six, plato Or has growth a year long 77 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: celebration for Plato, which it owns, which it bought off 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: of Kenner, which Kenner bought from a dude named Joe McVicker's. 79 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: Actually they bought it from Tonka. Talk about it from Kenner? 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how do I forget Tonka exactly? Um? And 81 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: for this fiftieth birthday party, they had a a cent 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: a Plato perfume released that smelled just like Plato. Can 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: you buy that? Wonder? I looked, and I think you 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: can get it, but I don't think as easy as 85 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: you could. Back in two thousand six. Yeah, I wouldn't 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: want to wear it. I was just curious. I think, yeah, nostalgia, 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: I like them. I would like to smell it, but 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: don't spread that stuff on me. I don't think you're 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: supposed to wear it. Was it just like, yeah, one 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: of those things, the mood stabilizer. Okay, you know what 91 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean. Yea spray in front of your face and 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you just go, oh yeah, okay, should put this lead 93 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: pipe down and rethink things? Right? Remember when I was 94 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: a kid and let's violent, somebody give me some paste 95 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: to eat? They should do that. Well back when you 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: were a kid, Um, did you know much about the 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: origin and play Plato? Oh? No, not at all. I 98 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: didn't either until today. You're yesterday when I started researching 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: this Plato everyone and in this article by Tracy Wilson, 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: who hosts Stuffy miss in History class Um, she says 101 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: that it's lower, but I've seen it all over the place, 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: and from what I understand, it's the truth. I think 103 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: it's the truth. There was a dude named Joe mcvickers 104 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: who had a company and his company, uh produced, from 105 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: what I understand, mc vicker's invention, which was wallpaper cleaner. Yeah. 106 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: They his his father and uncle started it and they 107 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: were called Coutole Products and it was a soap company, 108 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: and but their big seller was this wall cleaner because 109 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: when we heated our homes with coal, your house would 110 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: get coal sit on the walls, which is really weird 111 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: to think of now. Yeah, but it's true. And your 112 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: wallpaper can still get dirty, grease from cooking things, food fights, 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: what ever, your wallpaper can get dirty. Let's just face facts, everybody. 114 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: And mc vicker's company had this putty. It was kind 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: of a pliable, gooey putty that you slapped up against 116 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: the wallpaper and rolled up and down and it just 117 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: took that suit or that grease or that spaghetti sauce 118 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: clean off. And it was wallpaper cleaner and it was 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: doing okay. I guess I don't think they were like 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: hurting necessarily. But Joe was married to a woman, or 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: was his sister in law. Was a teacher. Yeah, it 122 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: was Cincinnati. Yeah. They they sold a lot of this 123 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: stuff for a while, but then natural gas came around 124 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: and so they fell upon hard times. But um Joe 125 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: took over from Cleo. Uh as Cleo's was his father 126 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: and his sister in law, cash Fall of New Jersey, 127 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: read about kids that were making Christmas ornaments out of 128 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: that stuff and she said out of the wallpaper cleaner. Yeah, 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: and uh, much like kids do today with Plato. And 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: she said, hey, you know we're hurting, why don't we 131 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: try and turn this stuff into a toy. And they 132 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: did so, and in ninet he made a non toxic version, 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: added some almond scent, and you had your first little 134 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: off white Plato. Yeah. Kind of exactly what you would 135 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: think of when you think of a gummy colored like dough. Yeah, 136 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: off white khaki almost yeah. Um and mc vicker was 137 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: a pretty smart dude as far as business goes. He 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: um donated a bunch of cans to the Cincinnati City 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: school system. Very smart, and so got these little kids 140 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: hooked on Plato. It was a huge hit, but it 141 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: it might have just been a regional hit. Uh. And 142 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: if he hadn't have approached a dude named Captain Kangaroo. Yeah, 143 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: he went to, Uh, what does Keptain Kangary's name Bob, 144 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Bob Keashan. I think Bob Keashan nice memory, Chuck I 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: pulled out from I don't know how many years ago 146 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: heard that name. He well, did you watch Captain Kangaroo? 147 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: Me too, love Captain Kangaroo. I like Captain Kangaroo more 148 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: than Mr Rogers. I liked them both, but yeah, I 149 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: think I might have been Yeah, Captain Kangaro a little 150 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: bit more. It was a haircut and I was Electric 151 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Company over Sesame Street Amon. Yeah, I like both, but 152 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: I like the Electric Electric Company more. But I like 153 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: Pinwheel most. I didn't watch that. It was for real 154 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: little kids. Um. Anyway, Captain Kangaroo had a show and 155 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: Joe mcvickers somehow got in contact with Captain Kangaroo and said, hey, 156 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: I have a little deal for you. We've got this 157 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: awesome stuff. The kids in Cincinnati are crazy for it. Um. 158 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: We're calling it Plato right now. It's an off white 159 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: where it used to be, but now we have four colors, red, blue, yellow, 160 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: and white. Those are the four original colors of Plato. 161 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: By the way, and he gave someone to Captain Kangaroo said, 162 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: I will give you two percent of gross sales if 163 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned this on your show two times a week 164 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: he played with it. Bob Keashon was a money grubber. 165 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: That's so we all know he I think he believed 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: in this product. Yeah, and as he's a smart guy, 167 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: he is. And uh, he believed in it so much 168 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: that he upped the number of mentions without any additional compensation, 169 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: from two times a week to as many as three 170 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: times a week. He would play with Plato on TV 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: and it just took off like a rocket from there. 172 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: That was his additional compensation that he got free Plato. No, 173 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: he had a percentage. So, oh yeah, you're you know 174 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're right, But it suggests that he 175 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: believed in it. That's right. He did believe in it. 176 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: And do not shatter my image, Captain Kangaroo. I'm not 177 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: saying he just wanted to make more money, of course not. 178 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that the show that Mr green Jean's was on. 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Big fan of that guy too. Uh. They formed the 180 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: Rainbow Crafts Company. Um, you know, they wanted to take 181 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: it out from under the Cotole Products banner and got 182 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: famous wildlife artist John Ruthven to design that first package 183 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: with Originally it was very briefly it was an elf. Yeah, 184 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: and those I think you're probably if you have a 185 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: can of that, you probably it's probably in a museum 186 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: or something that wasn't around long. And then they went 187 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: to Plato pete Um the kid with the smock in 188 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: the beret, because all little kids wore berets and smocks 189 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: back then, or you wore your dad's dress shirt like backwards. 190 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: That made a good smock too. Yeah, the one he 191 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: didn't want anymore, or that you thought he didn't want anymore, 192 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: but he really got mad at you. He got paint 193 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: on it. That's my good short sleeve dress shirt. Uh. 194 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: And finally it took all the way until two thousand 195 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: two did the Herbal Elvis wear short sleeve dress shirts 196 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: with slacks and ties. Yeah. My dad usually as a 197 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: principal wore a coat. But when you take off the 198 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: jacket and you've got the short sleep that's something else. 199 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: With a blue felt tippin, a red felt tippin, and 200 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: green felt tip pin in his pocket front pot it 201 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: that was your dad. Yeah, he's a mechanical engineer. Oh 202 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: so each one had a different use. I think he 203 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: also just thought they were pretty Yeah, like they kind 204 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: of they made it. They made a shirt pocket. Pop. 205 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: That's where you get it with your shirt pocket thing, right, 206 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: all right. It took it until two thousand two for 207 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: that beret to become a baseball cap, and then now 208 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: he's just gone. Yeah I was looking like somebody anymore 209 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: at not at all. Now it's a can with arms 210 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: and the lids kind of pulled back, and in between 211 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: the rim of the can in the top of the 212 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: litter a couple of eyes. It looks a bit like 213 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: a garbage can, but it's obviously a Plato can, but 214 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: just kind of I don't like it. I like Plato Pete, 215 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: the kid with the beret, Yeah, me too. He was great. 216 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: That's what we grew up with. His nostalgia. Yeah, but 217 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: he was around for a really long time. And just 218 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: do away with him like he's nothing. That's another shirt. 219 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Bring back Plato Pete. Yeah, we'll get sued, although I 220 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: didn't get the impression that they were too terribly litigious. Well, 221 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: plus we could tell him we sold nine T shirts. 222 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: You're sure seventy three dollars two percent. So Plato, we 223 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: all played with it. It was fun, uh for modeling, 224 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: but it was not like if you were like me, 225 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: your your hopes were dashed a bit when you modeled 226 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: something and left it out overnight because you thought it 227 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: would make it into a permanent um exhibit. Yeah, but 228 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: it would really just kind of break apart. It's not 229 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: like you can't cure it like you do modeling clay. No. 230 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: I was on Plato's site and they readily admit that 231 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. They say, if you want 232 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: a permanent thing, go get your some modeling clay. You 233 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: get some sculpie. Um. I don't want to buzz market, 234 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: but sculpies a lot of fun. Okay, um, we're talking 235 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: about Plato though. Yeah, that sculpie is fun. Um So, 236 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: but they say modeling clay. They don't say sculpie. But 237 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: they say, if you want to make a permanent thing, 238 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: go get some molling clay. It's not what Plato's for. 239 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: It's it's or being in the moment making fun things 240 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: and then put smashing those and then putting it back 241 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: in the can, doing it all over again every day, 242 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: and driving your mom crazy because she can't stand colors 243 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: to be mixed together. She sits there and pick them 244 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: apart or whatever. Or it's in the orange sad carpet, 245 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: which again has bro has some some helpful suggestions for 246 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: how to clean this stuff up. Um number one, and 247 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: you will understand eventually by the end of this podcast. 248 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Why do not use warm water when you're cleaning up 249 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Plato from the carpet. Yeah, it will make everything a 250 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: million times worse what they say, if possible, if you 251 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: have the patients of job, just go ahead and let 252 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: this thing dry, turn brittle, use a stiff brush and 253 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: just kind of brush it out of the carpeting, vacuum 254 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: it up boom, or do the reasonable thing and get 255 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: hardwood floors. All right, Well we'll discuss that very soon, 256 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: um after this message. Alright, So Plato is fun enough 257 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: on its own. Like when I was a kid, I 258 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: had zero, a couch rum all to go along with 259 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: my Plato. I don't recall having anything but just the 260 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Plato to All I had was the Plato in my imagination. 261 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: And uh, I said, you know what, let's get a 262 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: couple of engineers from General Electric to design what's going 263 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: to be called the fun Factory. That's like, that was it. 264 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: That was it. Then you could put Plato into various 265 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: forms and molds and press it and have it come 266 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: out like sausage or spaghetti or just whatever they decided 267 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: to design. Like, have you been to the site recently? 268 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: There are hundreds of different things that you can buy 269 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: now with your Plato, of course, yes, and different types 270 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: of Plato to to make different looking things as well. Yeah. Um, 271 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: but the original fun Factory things basically just a hand 272 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: pushed lever that shoved the Plato inside through a hole 273 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: a sausage and then basically and then in front of 274 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: the hole. Um, you had just kind of like different 275 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: um shapes that you could make this thing into what 276 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: did you say, spaghetti and the rope. Speaking of the rope, 277 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: all of these are basically what it is. An extruder. 278 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: This is a Plato extruder. Is what what these guys 279 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: came up with. And I guarantee they had colored felt 280 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: tip pens in the front of their pockets too when 281 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: they designed this thing. But this, if you took all 282 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the Plato. By the way, here's a Plato fun fact. 283 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: If you took all the Plato ever created, and ran 284 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: it through the fun factory and extruded it into one 285 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: long rope. It would wrap around the earth three thousand 286 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: times how many big maxes that no, I'm sorry it 287 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: were wrapped around there? Or three hundred times let's not 288 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: let's not go crazy on. Yeah, and you could go 289 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: to the moon and back ten times with that rope. 290 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: You could make a pretty good little break that would 291 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: be kind of crumbly by the next day, but it 292 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: would be colorful. That's right. That's a little lot of Plato, man. Yeah, 293 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: they've sold nine hundred and fifty million pounds of this stuff, 294 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: more than two billion cans since nineteen fifty six. Yeah, 295 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: and they apparently make about a hundred million cans every year. 296 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: What I find heartening is those are current statistics that 297 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: are not rated for inflation, you know. But um, this 298 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: article that Tracy wrote was apparently written in two thousand 299 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: and six. She said that they make nine million cans, 300 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: so they've up their production by five million cans a year, 301 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: which means Plato is not going anywhere. That's right. I'm 302 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: pretty psyched about that. Yeah, and all the stuff they 303 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: have now, like, um, they've got all sorts of licensing 304 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: deals like they have like the Plato Disney Princess set 305 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: and you can make dresses for your Disney princess out 306 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of Plato. And um they have a longstanding tradition too 307 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: of making fake food. Like I was, I was watching 308 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: some UM. I wouldn't really call it documentary. It is 309 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: almost just a compilation of Plato ads over the years. 310 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: And um there's one from the eighties where you could 311 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: make pizza hut pizzas out of Plato. I think I 312 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: remember that. Nowadays they have UM like a kind of 313 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: a sweet shop I think is the name of the line. 314 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: And like I said, they have different types of Plato 315 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: summer squishy here and thinner and more pliable, so you 316 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: can use those to make the frosting, use regular Plato 317 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: to make the actual cupcake. That's because the cupcake graze 318 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: I bet yeah, probably has filtered down to kids. And 319 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: with the gluten free craze UM on your website it 320 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: says contains gluten yeah, has wheat yeah. But they have 321 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: to advertise that now because your child will want to 322 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: eat the Plato and if you have your kid off gluten, 323 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: they can't eat the Plato. No mommy has to explain 324 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: that or daddy. But if your kid has a peanut 325 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: allergy or um milk allergy, yeah you're fine. That's right. Water, 326 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: salt and flour is the general I mean to. It's 327 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: a very proprietary recipe obviously, right, it's a U S. 328 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Patent number six seven one three six two four. But 329 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: if you look that up, you're not going to find 330 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: the ingredients. No, Like you said, it's proprietary. Um. They 331 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: they do give kind of like a general um ingredient 332 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: list somewhere I guess in the patent itself. Um. But yeah, 333 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: they're not gonna tell you like how to make it, 334 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: but we'll list those really quickly, and then we're gonna 335 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: talk about chemistry. Yeah, we're gonna get to the chemical 336 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: molecular basis of Plato itself. But in broad terms, at 337 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: his water, you got a starch based finder. You have 338 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: a retrograde aation inhibitor because you have to inhibit that 339 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: retrograde aation salt an they're salt in there. In fact, 340 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: at one point it was too salty and they had 341 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: to get a new uh chemist to remove some of 342 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: the salt. Is there, right? Yeah, but you remember how 343 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: salty it tasted. No, I didn't. I never tasted it. 344 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know, I said, you said you tasted it. 345 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: I said, I never did. I ate the paste. Okay, 346 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: I've never tasted it. But the smell was the paste. 347 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: The salty no, no, no, it had a weird sweet 348 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: taste to it. It wasn't overly sweet, but of all 349 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: of the tastes, that's sweet enough to get a kid 350 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: to eat it. Right. Uh, salt, you got your lubricate, um, 351 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: and all this will make sense in a bit. A surfactant, preservative, hardener, 352 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: a humicant, a fragrance of course in color. Uh. I 353 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: know we used almond for the first fragrance, but I 354 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: wonder if it's still an offshoot of that smell like almond. 355 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: From what I saw, they've admitted to vanilla. That's all 356 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: I've seen. And they're saying like that, that doesn't tell 357 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: us anything. That's all they admitted to. Yeah, under question. Um. 358 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: But the colors, we should also say chuckers. Um. They 359 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: originally had red, yellow, and blue primary colors. Then they 360 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: added white, and this is all in the fifties and 361 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: those are the only colors until the eighties, and they 362 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: added a couple more than they had eight colors total, 363 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: and then now today it's like a whole rainbow, a 364 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: whole galaxy of different colors. I never got the white 365 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: because it just it looked dirty so quickly. I never 366 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: really understood the purpose of the white. I liked it. 367 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was a nice juxtaposition with the primary colors. 368 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: You're a artist, No, I was just a kind of sure, 369 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: all right, So now, um, the rest of the show, 370 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about chemistry. You're not happy about this? Sorry, Well, 371 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: what do you think about this article? I thought it 372 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: was It was good, you know, because that's what how 373 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: stuff works does, is they tell the story behind things, 374 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: Like we can't just talk about surfing. We have to 375 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: talk about the physics of a wave. I get that. Um, 376 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, chemistry, it was not my bag, baby, this one. Um, 377 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: this one. Kissing and roller coasters. You're kind of like 378 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: you had a little bit of protests going on, like, 379 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: come on, this is fun stuff. Yeah, when you're talking 380 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: about kissing, you want to talk about Remember the title 381 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: of it was a rigid, sterile lucket. Well, I don't 382 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: know if the title for this will end up being 383 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: what I wanted but it was going to be taking 384 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: the fun out of Plato. No, let's call how Plato works. 385 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: All right, but you heard it here. That was my 386 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: working title. Yeah, alright, Well I will kick the chemistry 387 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: off and maybe I will spark your interest. Are you ready? 388 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: Do you have your beret and your smock on. This 389 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: isn't even the fun chemistry you get to burn things. No, 390 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: this is the chemistry of compounds. You're just adding them together. 391 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: You know. There's a little heat involved, as we'll see, 392 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: so you could start that flame. Okay, okay. So um, 393 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: the whole basis of Plato, it turns out, is an 394 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: interaction between starch and water. That's right, and starches are um, 395 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: they're polysach rides, which are sugar molecules. And there's basically 396 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: two varieties or two types that combine. There's amlos and 397 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: there's a melo pecton that's right, and analyst is like 398 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: a string. A melo pecton is branched, and when they 399 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: get together they form a starburst shape. They form a 400 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: molecule in a starburst shape, and it's arranged around a 401 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: central area hollow called the highland h I l u 402 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: M the highland and UM it's all held together thanks 403 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: to hydrogen bonds. And then you have all that these 404 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: polysach ride chains all mixed together with hydrogen bonds forming 405 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: a starburst. And my friend, you have a starch molecule. 406 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: And when you have the starch molecule, you have one 407 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: of the two bases of Plato. Yeah, and this one, 408 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: this article does have some pretty handy illustrations. If um hearing, 409 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: this doesn't make as much since you can follow along 410 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: on your own computer. Look at the illustrations. H If 411 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: you add cold water to starch um, the granules are 412 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna absorb some. But when things really get interesting is 413 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: when you add warm water or when you heat up 414 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: that cold water to be warm water. Like you can 415 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: mix it ahead of time and then warm it up, 416 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: and basically what you're doing is making a gelatine, just 417 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: like when you make jello. It's gotta be warm water. Right. 418 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: Like if you've ever had like corn, starch or flour 419 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: or whatever um and you add cold water to it, 420 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: they just kind of separate, right. It's really untoward. It 421 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: doesn't do much. It's almost like the starch protects itself 422 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: against the cold. It's like brd you stay over there 423 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: cold water. But when you use warm water or a 424 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: mechanical action of mixing together, it forms, like you said, 425 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: it gelatinizes, and now you're starting to get the basis 426 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: of play dough. But the problem is um. When you 427 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: just add warm water and the starch in this case 428 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: it's wheat starch that they use, right, because they have 429 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: to war against gluten um. When you add those two things, 430 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: they mix together well, they form a nice gelatinous goo, 431 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: but as it dries, you've got the problem of retrogradation. 432 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: That's right, and that's that's trouble, yeah, because it really 433 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: depends on the breakdown of amlos to a melopecton is 434 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: the key. If you have a lot of amlos, it's 435 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna take more swelling to gelatonizes, right. But you get 436 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: a nice robust gel when you have a lot of amylose. 437 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: But the problem is that excess amlos separates some from 438 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: the water, binds to itself, and then you have something 439 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: that's not a full compound anymore. It's basically like a 440 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: couple of it's it's like you've got that gel and 441 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: then some extra amulose and it's dry and brittle, and 442 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: it's not good. Well, yeah, and in the case of 443 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: making a product for kids to play with, it's too firm, 444 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Like they had to get this recipe just right to 445 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: make it firm but still appliable, and a lot of 446 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of work went into this, I'm sure, yeah, 447 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: because at any time, like they started with the starch 448 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: and the water, put it together fantastic, but then that 449 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: created this problem. And then when they went to solve 450 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: this problem, it created this problem. So then they had 451 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: to solvate this problem. And then after adding like seven things, 452 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: they finally have this like precariously balanced compound. That's perfect. 453 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: That's perfect, but it's pretty neat. It's really complicated, and 454 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: it it's self complicating, which I find very interesting it is. 455 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: And what they ended up settling with as far as 456 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: percentages goes for that weed starts was amlose a melopecton. 457 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: They found that to be the secret sauce, right, as 458 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: our buddy Chad likes to say. And the reason they 459 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: have the a melo pecton is because the amelo pectin 460 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: is a waxy starch and it keeps the amlose from 461 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: binding to itself, so you have, um, you've prevented that 462 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: retrogradation problem. Right where the amlose separates from the water 463 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: and just binds to itself. The problem is now that 464 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: you have this extra a melo pecton, the a melo pectin. 465 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: It keeps the whole thing together, but it doesn't too much, 466 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: And now you have a sticky tacky compound. You don't 467 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: want it sticky. No, And anybody's ever played with Plato 468 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: and tried to make something. You can't make it sticky. 469 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: I'll stick to your hands or stick to itself. It's 470 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: not gonna make a cheeseburger like that. No. Um, So 471 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: they added something else, a lubricant that's right in this case. Uh. 472 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that's part of them the 473 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: secret or not, but it's probably some sort of a 474 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: vegetable oil or mineral oil. Well they think possibly it's 475 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: a it's a mineral oil which is derived from petroleum, 476 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: which petroleum which is why it's non toxic. Basically, shouldn't 477 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: eat it. Yeah, I didn't see that there was petroleum. 478 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I bet you they're going to come out with a 479 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: gluten free play though I'm surprised they haven't already. But 480 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: that would almost be like admitting your child is eating 481 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: this or can't eat it. Well, some of that new stuff, 482 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: like the Sweet Shops stuff. I'm actually I would be 483 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: very surprised if they hadn't done some R and D 484 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: of different flavored play dough, you know, because if they 485 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: have the different colors and this is supposed to look 486 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: like this frosting, that's supposed to look like this frosting. 487 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: So I wonder if they were like, well, we can't 488 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: make this taste like vanilla or or you know, cotton 489 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: candy or whatever. But yeah, and then they kind of 490 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: shook their heads off and we're like, wait, we can't 491 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: have kids eating this stuff. Or I wonder if they've 492 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: done R and D on how much of it you 493 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: can eat before it makes you sick. Surely, Like if 494 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: they're making something that looks like a cupcake, some kid 495 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: is probably gonna eat that entire thing at some point. 496 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: And like we said, they've pretty much always been like, 497 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: you can make fake food with this pizza Hug gave 498 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: us money to do this, but don't eat it. Right, 499 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: it's a weird mixed message. It is a totally mixed message. 500 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: But you were saying they used the petroleum oil for 501 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: as a lubricant. Yeah, and that keeps it from being 502 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: all sticky. So if you've ever played with it, you 503 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: know it like it's very pliable, um and moist, but 504 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: it's not going to stick your fingers, which is the key. 505 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: So you have added the mineral oil or some sort 506 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: of lubricant to prevent the extra a melo pectin from 507 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: making it sticky. And the whole reason you added amlo 508 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: pecton was because too much amlose can cause retrogradation. So 509 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: you've got all these solutions, and you've got the lubri 510 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: con solution. The problem is you can't just put like 511 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: you can't just drop it into lubricant and expected to stick. 512 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: The lubricant will won't bind within this compound, so you 513 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: have to add yet another thing, the surfactant. Yeah, surfactants 514 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: you'll see in a lot of household cleansing products if 515 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: you use that chemical junk to clean your house. But 516 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: a surface active agent is another name for it, and 517 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: it basically, uh, they're artificially manufactured their molecules, but it's 518 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna suspend something in water. It's the whole key to 519 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: being a surfactant. Imagine, a surfactant has two ends, and 520 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: one end is hydrophilic. Which means it attracts water and 521 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: is attracted to water, and the other is hydrophobic, which 522 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: means it repels water. And it's actually attracted to fats lipids, 523 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: right or afraid of it. Even The cool thing about 524 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: a surfactant is that if you take it and you 525 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: throw it into a solution of water and oil, fats 526 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: and waters, right it, one end will attract the fat 527 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: molecules and another end will attract the water molecules. And 528 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: what the end result of all of this is that 529 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: you can basically suspend fats in water or water and 530 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: fats um so that you have effectively, molecularly speaking, something 531 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: a compound that's all mixed together. It's not going to 532 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: separate like oil and water, because the whole thing is 533 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: being held together by surfactants. That's right, that's pretty amazing. 534 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: It actually binds to the molecules of the lubricantants the 535 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: chemical reaction is taking place and keeps them all mixed together. 536 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: It won't allow them to separate. So we've got the 537 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: lubricant in there. The whole thing is being held in 538 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: place by their surfactant. We've got a little extra water 539 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: chuck where we're gonna do. Uh well, I don't think 540 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier the reason it dries out to begin with, 541 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: if you leave it out overnight, it's just because evaporation, right, 542 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: And has Burrow recommends that if this happens, you take 543 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: your plate modeling clay and you um rapid like a 544 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: damp paper towel, put it back in the camp. But 545 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: to cover on it, leave it overnight should be good 546 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: as new. Yeah, and I've seen you can also add 547 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: a little water to it as well, um, but I've 548 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: never tried that. So that, my friend is it's a 549 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: very fine tuned mixture, like you said, they had to sure. 550 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: It took a lot of work over the years to 551 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: get it just exactly right. And we're gonna learn how 552 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: you can make your own right after this break, So Chuck, 553 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: we should have said. There's a couple of other things 554 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: that they add, Like you get excess water, so they 555 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: added a little salt, and apparently for the excess salt 556 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: they brought in a new chemist. So it's just fine, 557 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: perfectly fine tuned stuff. And they got a colored of course, 558 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: and and give it its sent yeah um, and then 559 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: uh possibly make it taste in the future. Who knows. 560 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm betting on that. Yeah. And you know, the salts 561 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: also adds a little anti microbol element to it, which 562 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: is nice. It was so it has acts as a 563 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: preservative as well. Um And to make Plato, you just 564 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: put all this stuff in these um in the right 565 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: measurements and apply heat to it and mix it together 566 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: and package it and that's Plato. Yeah, and it's got 567 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: to have that shelf life like this is. It's really 568 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: hard to come up with a product like this that 569 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: meets all those needs. And we'll still like, you know, 570 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure there were times early on we're like, oh, 571 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: this stuff is two weeks old on the shelf. It's 572 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: like a brick back to the drawing board, put on 573 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: your beret, in your smock. Remember in our How Twinkies 574 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: Works episode, they dealt with that initially, the shelf life, right, 575 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: so they just made it infinity. Man, that was such 576 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: a good episode. That was good, one of my all 577 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: time favorites. Agreed, We still get emails from people they're like, 578 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: I found the banana Twinkies. Yeah, they have them in 579 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: like um limited release from once in a while. Yeah, 580 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: I have yet to try one. I remember trying one 581 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: years ago, but it wasn't my bag. I don't like 582 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: banana flavorite things, but I like bananas. You're a very 583 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: complex man, Chuck. Well, they don't. They don't quite get 584 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: it right. Don't think ever. I've never tasted a banana 585 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: flavor thing that got it right. I'm hard to please, so, 586 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: um man, you just totally threw me off. What were 587 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: we talking? We were I think we were a chap 588 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: point where we're gonna make our own right. Right. So 589 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: it's very tough to make until you come upon the recipe. 590 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: But apparently a lot of people, even though it's a 591 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: proprietary recipe, a lot of people have come up with 592 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: their own recipes for Plato. Sure, and it's fun to 593 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: do with your kid, you know, like if they like 594 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: playing with it, then you can teach them a little 595 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: chemistry along the way, right if at a learning moment, 596 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: if you um, want to save some money, or you 597 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: don't want to feed the corporate beast, that too, um 598 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: or yeah, you just want to do something with your 599 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: kid and make it. You can do all this stuff. 600 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: It just takes a little elbow grease and work. And 601 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: there's recipes all over the internet. There's some for like 602 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: glowing the dark plato. There's some for glittery plato. Um. 603 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: There's a couple of recipes in this article on how 604 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: stuff works. But basically you're doing the same thing. You're 605 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: adding starch to water, you're adding some sort of lubricant 606 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: to it, something to hold the whole thing together. Uh. 607 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: And this recipe, it's a cream of tartar which stiffens 608 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: eggs and gives plato homemade plato. It's it's firmness. But 609 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of recipes online that if you want 610 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: to not only just play with plato with your kid, 611 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: but make it. That's a great chemistry teaching experience. I think, agreed. 612 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: And you can explain, um, you know what what each 613 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: ingredient is doing, and then at the very end you're 614 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna have plato and your kid's gonna say this plato stinks. 615 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: It's not nearly as good as the real thing, unless 616 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: it's the peanut butter variety. When I'll bet you're like, oh, 617 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: this is tasty plato. Do they have that? Yeah, there's 618 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: a recipe for it in this article. It's the peanut 619 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: butter is one of the ingredients. Yes, interesting, Yeah, or 620 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: you know what you could make it with your kid. Wow. 621 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: You listen to us stumble through the explanation and to 622 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: everybody who's doing that right now? Hello, hello everyone and 623 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: your kids. Canna say? Who are these jerks? And why 624 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: does my Plato not work? Can we just go to 625 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: the store and buy some Plato please? Yeah? Well we're portable. 626 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: We go around on MP three players, so we can 627 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: go to the store with the exactly what else you got? 628 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: And then you can listen to our episode on temper 629 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: tantrums on the way to the store. That was a 630 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: good one too. It was what else you got? I've 631 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: got nothing else? Um? I got plenty more? Oh please 632 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Mr Bill remember him from Sorry Life? Of course he 633 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: was made a Plato. Yeah, they made the first Mr 634 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: Bill short for twenty bucks. That's pretty good stuff. What 635 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: else you got? There's a there's not not just one, 636 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: but two at least Plato three D printers on the 637 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: market right now. Really, Yeah, it's pretty awesome. You put 638 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: a hunk of it in there, different hunks in there, 639 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: and no, no, no no, and it and it uh. I 640 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: was about to say a hunk in there and then 641 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: it whittles it down. But that's the opposite three D 642 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: p No, no, it extrudes it, it builds up. Yeah, 643 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: that's crazy. There's one on think Geek for like fifty 644 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: bucks that um plugs into your iPad so that's where 645 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: your schematics are and it tells it what to do 646 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: and it makes pretty cool little three D plato stuff. 647 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of fun. It is. At the same time, 648 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, I mean, you're really 649 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: building a little geek there, but the imagination and the 650 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: hands on things kind of taken out of it a 651 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: little bit. Well, I think that that's the new imagination, 652 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: my friend, I guess. So to follow forms and schematics 653 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: to a t it would be cool is if you 654 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: could design your own schematic and then which I'm sure 655 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: you can yeah. Um. And then Plato has one called 656 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: the do vinci Um and that's a three D printer too. 657 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: And then one other thing I found we were talking 658 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: about plato ads earlier, there is a series of band 659 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: plato ads that were published in Singapore a couple of 660 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: years back. Oh, band is and I thought you meant 661 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 1: like bands recorded music. No, no, like band and any 662 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: D taboo plato ads that are very adult centrically. Yeah that, Um, 663 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: can you say, what? Well, how about this? I made 664 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: a slide show of them on our site. You can 665 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: go check them out. They're pretty crazy. Um they're not 666 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: like naked or and not adult in that way, but 667 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: like kind of violent and a little dark. Um that 668 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: this ad agency made basically without the approval of Hasbro. 669 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: Um And uh, Hasbro came in and like denounced it 670 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: and everything. But they're pretty great. So if you go 671 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: to stuff you should dot com and search banned Plato ads, 672 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: it will come up. And Hasbro had a news Releases 673 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: says we don't endorse this use of Plato brand multiple 674 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: clay right, they just kept working the name in there. Yeah, 675 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy. I learned all about something called scam ads, 676 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: where um advertising agencies basically create ad campaigns based around 677 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: brand names without the brand names permission, simply to submit 678 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: them for awards consideration to expand their prestige. Interesting. Well, 679 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: and uh, if you want to be a TV commercial director, 680 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: you have probably made some spec or fake ads yourself 681 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: just to have on your reel. Like you know, I'm 682 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna make a Dirito, Well doritos I said cost over year, right, 683 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: So this is that same thing, but sometimes they really 684 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: run a foul of like the spirit of the brand. Um, 685 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: and there's scam ads. Yeah, they're like European commercials, which 686 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: are always way better and risque and like funny. Yeah, 687 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: get with it, America. So if you want to learn 688 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: more about Plato, including a few Plato recipes, you can 689 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: type Plato into the search part house stuff works dot 690 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: Com and and say said search parts time for a 691 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: listener mail. I'm gonna call this another m p a 692 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: A called the Golden f Bomb. Hey, guys, I discovered 693 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: your show, um and he says a little Jerry and 694 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: spilled her name to which doesn't happen aten the spelling 695 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: that is, I discovered your podcast while looking for something 696 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: interesting to listen to while I worked on my organic 697 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: farm in Kauai. I heard the mp A show and 698 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: I just had to write. In Growing up, my friends 699 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: and I were always looking for a way to sneak 700 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: into movie theaters. He had the exit door, having an 701 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: older friend or parent, biased tickets, using a ticket single 702 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: ticket stub passed back through to get in on the 703 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: same ticket, etcetera. He had all sorts of ways of 704 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: stealing our goal was to get into an R rated 705 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: movie underage, with n C seventeen being the ultimate prize. 706 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: PG thirteen always felt like we had failed or were settling, 707 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: So to make it fun we would count how many 708 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: expletives were we heard and compare notes after the movie. 709 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: He really took things to a different level. It must 710 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: have been a time when movies weren't as good as 711 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: they are today in the theaters in the movies have 712 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: never been this bad. It is really out of terrible. Uh. 713 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: One pattern we soon realized was that PG thirteen movies 714 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: are allotted one F bomb. Listening for that one F 715 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: bomb became the looked for a moment making the PG 716 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: thirteen movie experience. It's had more interesting and something I 717 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: look out for to this day. Still. There are some 718 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: real classics, including Ron Burgundy's an Anchorman, most recently in Skyfall, 719 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: when Judy Ditch uses that naughty word she did, I 720 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: don't remember that, Judy, the first one in the Bond 721 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: series and Judy, Judy, I just saw Filimino. By the way, finally, 722 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: what did you think it was fantastic? Was that just 723 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: an amazing change of pace for her? She always plays 724 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: like the short pulled together like yeah, like Boss Lady 725 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: and this when she was just kind of just working class. 726 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: That was a good movie. That was really good. Love 727 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: that movie, highly recommended um And then I noticed the 728 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: rating rule is not ironclad, however, because recent examples of 729 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: Lincoln and Filomena. Hey, how about that had two of 730 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: those naughty words a piece. Lincoln had it in there, 731 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: hunts that's o bird gets away with anything. Well, he's 732 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: the one that had the whole thing changed. Oh yeah, 733 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: he was the one that created it. Yeah, and then 734 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: he ran a foul of it. Anyway, My absolute favorite 735 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: PG thirteen Golden Goal naughty word uh not mentioned anywhere 736 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: else that I've researched, was the one that got me 737 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: out of my seat cheering, like the President's speech and 738 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: Independence Days from Oblivion. Tom Cruise's character awaits to the 739 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: very end of the movie to deliver the perfectly timed 740 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: line to his enemy. That movie stunk, did it? Yeah? 741 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: I heard the other one was pretty good though, Edge 742 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: of Tomorrow, Yeah, that was really good. Oblivion stunk. And 743 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: he closes by saying, Mahalo Nuela, thank you very much 744 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: for all you do to in Photinous and that is 745 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: evans On Kauaii. Uh yeah, sorry, Evans, Oblivion was no good. 746 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: He said that he liked it a lot, but you know, 747 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: to each their own, I'm not gonna poopoo his taste. 748 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: Good for you, Chuck, Thanks for your your game and 749 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: your fevery. If you want to talk to me and 750 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: Chuck about movies, we are always down for that. We 751 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: love talking about movies. We should just like do an 752 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: episode where we just just say have you seen this movie? Oh? Yeah, 753 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: I love that one for like a half hour. There'll 754 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: be a couple of people out there they're like, this 755 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: is a good episode. There are podcasts like exactly like that. 756 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: You know that? Mm hmm um, what was I just saying? 757 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. If you want to get in touch with 758 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: us for whatever reason, movies or otherwise, you can tweet 759 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: to us at s YSK podcast. You can join us 760 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: on Facebook dot com, slash stuff you Should Know. 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