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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Donks, look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, the twenty eighth

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Speaker 3: of December twenty twenty, and it is time Diggity Donks

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Speaker 3: for Morning Combat. Hello everybody. The year is almost over,

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Speaker 3: but the show rolls on. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: I am from CBS Sports and one half of your

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Speaker 3: hosting duo. I am joined by the King of Connecticut

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Speaker 3: on the other side of the screen. He is also

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Speaker 3: from CBS Sports, and Showtime likes him better because they

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Speaker 3: send him swag and they send me nada. It is

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Speaker 3: my friend and yours. It is the one and only

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Speaker 3: barracks Cut himself. That's your new name. It's not Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 3: It's barracks Cut. What's up, BC?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Home Haircut Home. Sason is upon us, Luke. OK,

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Speaker 1: it saved me one hundred dollars. I'm doing great, Luke.

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Speaker 1: It's almost time for a new year. Almost time to

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Speaker 1: wrap up this thing we call twenty twenty. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: and smoke it away, Luke. Okay, it's been a rough run,

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Speaker 1: but you know what your consistency has been high COVID

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Speaker 1: numbers and morning combat. That's twenty twenty, okay, Because you

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Speaker 1: know who had the best year in twenty twenty. We did,

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Speaker 1: and that's because of our nation of hardcore. So thank

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Speaker 1: you to all the people. Hopefully they enjoyed our special

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Speaker 1: Christmas bonus episode and hopefully a lot of people understand

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Speaker 1: Luke what we're all about, okay, and that's.

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Speaker 1: Nevertheless, yeah, do you think do you think of twenty

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be known as the show that

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Speaker 3: so don't get your hopes too high. I'll just put

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Speaker 3: it that way. Uh, Well, we have a lot to

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Speaker 3: but we are back. We are alive. We also will

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Speaker 3: We'll do some awards and things like that. Let's see BC.

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Speaker 3: Like the video, hit the subscribe button. We really appreciate

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Speaker 3: everyone who has subscribed and joined us alone as journey,

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Speaker 3: but we still have many miles to go before we sleep.

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Speaker 3: As Robert Frost once said, and we got.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before we get fired. It's really what you are.

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Speaker 3: Before we get fired. Yes, if you want to join

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Speaker 3: us for you know, well, we're not on Showtime officially,

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Speaker 3: you can watch us there. You can go to Showtime

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Speaker 3: She got me a reverse hyper machine, which, if you

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you can't, if you're not lifting outdoors

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Speaker 1: You're under house arrest, Luke. That's what they must think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. He just finds a way to worm.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's greedy that Jay had his birthday

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Speaker 3: In his BC, I predicted this won't be predicted. I

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Speaker 3: So point number two, Anthony Pettis does have a new home.

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Speaker 1: I'm very surprised because look, until we see a shift,

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Speaker 1: different levels of competition. He could still find that here,

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Speaker 1: What is over there, Well, it's that same place DJ

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's good for his bank.

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Speaker 3: the way Anderson Silva kind of vive the end of

431
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Speaker 3: his run there, which I also think is a wise choice.

432
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Speaker 3: And now, of course I still thought that somewhere like

433
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Speaker 3: Scott Coker would just have been a really hand in

434
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Speaker 3: glove kind of fit. But there are reasons to think

435
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 3: that pfl could do it for him and what he's

436
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Speaker 3: looking for. I think he'd be very competitive at one

437
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five pounds. I think if he does

438
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 3: win the tournament over there, I think that does say

439
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 3: a little bit of something. I mean, how much is

440
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 3: probably debatable. I certainly wouldn't put it on par with

441
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Speaker 3: winning a bellator title. Maybe, but maybe that's debatable to

442
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 3: one to fifty five anyway, although if he beat Patricio

443
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 3: that'd be bigger. I mean, there's a lot of ways

444
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Speaker 3: to parse it, but the point is this, if you're

445
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 3: still out there challenging or and maximizing the space you

446
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 3: have left as a career athlete and winning titles and

447
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 3: getting big checks and sort of finding creative ways to

448
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 3: stay relevant, I really think that's honestly the best thing

449
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 3: you can do. I mean, some guys like Saint Pierre

450
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 3: are gonna be able to retire at the top of

451
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Speaker 3: their game when they're competing for a UFC, but that's

452
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Speaker 3: going to be very very rare. We're talking about when

453
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Speaker 3: the very best to ever do it. Anthony Pettis is

454
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Speaker 3: not of George Saint Pierre in that sense. But he

455
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 3: is a very good fighter, and he does seem to

456
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: have at this point his career good self awareness. So

457
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Speaker 3: I think making the switch out of UFC was definitely

458
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: the good call. Some of the reasons he lists for

459
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 3: PFL are certainly going to be wise ones if he wins.

460
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 3: I do think it will show like there are ways

461
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Speaker 3: to manage the end of your career that aren't so

462
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Speaker 3: hard headed, and that don't involve status for the sake

463
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Speaker 3: of status against some of your broader interests. It seems

464
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: to me he just was sort of keenly aware of

465
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Speaker 3: who he is at this stage in his career and

466
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Speaker 3: he wants to maximize that. That sounds obvious, but for

467
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Speaker 3: a lot of guys who, especially once who held UFC

468
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 3: gold at some point, that's actually quite rare. So I

469
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: actually commend him and think he got I don't think

470
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Speaker 3: it's a bad choice. I mean, in the end of

471
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Speaker 3: the day, BC, you don't think it's a I mean,

472
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Speaker 3: we can debate whether he should have gone to Belatore

473
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Speaker 3: or not, but it wasn't a bad choice that he made, right, No.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at the end again, when you're at

475
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Speaker 1: this age, you were like you nail that you're looking

476
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Speaker 1: at how many paydays can I get to secure whatever

477
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Speaker 1: I need to secure. I want to pay off a house,

478
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Speaker 1: I want to you know, put my I want you

479
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Speaker 1: you got. You're not gonna hear it. You're not gonna

480
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Speaker 1: be making this money again unless you developed some successful

481
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Speaker 1: podcast or you become a you know, UFC color commentator.

482
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Speaker 1: So and even then you're not making the same money.

483
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Speaker 1: So yes, if it was all financial, it's the same

484
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Speaker 1: move we say of Eddie Alvarez going to one or

485
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Speaker 1: Demitrius Johnson. But I got three quick questions for you

486
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Speaker 1: about this Pettis move. One, Luke uh named me the

487
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Speaker 1: the PFL lightweight. You're mostly looking forward for him to fight.

488
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Speaker 3: Oh, the guy who was the reigning champion, and he's

489
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Speaker 3: undefeated in PFL, although he did have some losses in

490
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Speaker 3: World Series of Fighting. Is Nathan Schulty, right, So that's

491
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: the guy. But there's Chris Wade who's out there. There's

492
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Speaker 3: some of the guys who are are connected with Chris

493
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Speaker 3: Wade is as well, but I believe. But there are

494
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Speaker 3: some guys from Ali Abil Aziz who was sort of

495
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: signed from the Russian CAUCUSUS Mountains area that are always

496
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Speaker 3: pretty good. But the big dog there is Nathan Schult.

497
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Speaker 1: Number two will showtime Pettis attempt a Showtime kick under

498
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Speaker 1: the PFL banner.

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Speaker 3: See that's the other part. It's like, if you're going

500
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Speaker 3: there to win, we're winning is the thing they get

501
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: through the most amount of money. What does that do

502
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: to your fight style? Because the way in which he

503
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 3: felt like Ferguson and maybe even Daz to an extent

504
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Speaker 3: at least early, was you know, I'm gonna sort of

505
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Speaker 3: entertain the crowd. It's like, okay, but that's I mean

506
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Speaker 3: not the PFL is not about entertainment. But there's such

507
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Speaker 3: a premium right on winning. Does he fight a little

508
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Speaker 3: bit more conservatively? It's going to be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Number three, what are the over under on the

510
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Speaker 1: Petti compound right now of Wheaty's boxes unopened remaining. I'm

511
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Speaker 1: gonna say thirty five?

512
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Speaker 3: Where do you I think that's I think that's very

513
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Speaker 3: much the under, probably closer to one hundred or more

514
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 3: than that. Yeah, we'll see the other part is, you know,

515
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: PFL strategy here signing some interesting names we obviously know

516
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Speaker 3: forbisio erdoomas going there. They called him the Tom Brady

517
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Speaker 3: of everyweight ever made, which was, no, that's not what

518
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: he is, but uh, certainly it's an attractive name to

519
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Speaker 3: get other fighters. And Pettis is the interesting one. Pettis

520
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: is one of those guys where you sign him, it's like,

521
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Speaker 3: you know, Roy McDonald, I don't really know what he's

522
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: got left. Plus that one said, the division is a

523
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: little bit better over there. One fifty five seems much

524
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Speaker 3: more for the taking. And a guy like Pettis who

525
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Speaker 3: has a big name that fans like that, you know,

526
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Speaker 3: has been a celebrated figure, that's gonna be interesting. That's

527
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Speaker 3: gonna be again what he does in terms of recruiting

528
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Speaker 3: other fighters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm just trying to say here that I'm

530
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Speaker 1: not against the PFL. They just haven't given me a

531
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: reason to be for them yet, right Like, I like

532
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: that they exist. I like that the fighters have another avenue.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm not you know, Bellatore or viat ViacomCBS blow hard

534
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: for the sake of it, Belator has been a fun

535
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: alternative to the UFC. Let's see PFL carve out and

536
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: identity and look, these recent signings could help that. Let's

537
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Speaker 1: see what happened.

538
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean listen, I think if you watch

539
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Speaker 3: the tournament unfold a week over week, which I did

540
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: for the twenty nineteen season, you'll see that, like, they're

541
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: good fights on there, they discover interesting guys, Like there's

542
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: a lot to like about PFL. But what was one

543
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 3: thing that has been really missing from them? Star power?

544
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 3: Star power was just so key. That's where Kayla Harrison

545
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: was one of their brighter spots. Or signing Rory McDonald

546
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 3: or getting for Buco or now Anthony Pettis, They're beginning

547
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Speaker 3: to do the kind of thing that was missing for

548
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Speaker 3: PFL that they really needed. Now, how successful in the

549
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: end that will be, how financially viable that will be,

550
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: we'll have to see. But it does make their product

551
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 3: a lot more exciting. When you've got these guys that

552
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: are somewhat unheralded but very good fighters going against guys

553
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 3: who were once very good, a little bit more on

554
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: the downside of their career, but still quite competitive and

555
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 3: have big names. This is the kind of thing that's

556
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Speaker 3: I think going to get fans more excited about the

557
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: PFL product than what it used to be. Now, how

558
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: excited in the end, I think that's what we're gonna

559
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: have to see.

560
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Pettis offered his services to to rufus bandmate

561
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Speaker 1: their Ben Askrin in terms of teaching him how to

562
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Speaker 1: box for the potential of the Jake Paul fight.

563
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 3: Shouldn't they have done that already? It's like, should I.

564
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: Have helped you with your UFC run in terms of hands?

565
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: Yes, It's like it wasn't that a thing that was

566
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: more valuable when he was an active competitor in mixed mors?

567
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess not. I don't know what do

568
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: I know? Uh? Okay? But then'd be fun to see

569
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Speaker 3: what happens there. We move on now to point number

570
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Speaker 3: three here BC. There was lots of angry people on

571
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Speaker 3: social media, which is something we normally would have kept

572
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: for SGW, but we're gonna go ahead and get to

573
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: it today. I'm gonna ask you in this way. You

574
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: had Ben Askrin versus Scott Coker on Twitter. You had

575
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: Ali Abdelaziz versus Connor McGregor on Twitter, and then you

576
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: had Big John McCarthy lashing out at Dana White and

577
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: vice versa through those videos that they made One on

578
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: the Wing in podcast as response to Dana's stupid ass,

579
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: you know, anti media video. What was the best beef

580
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: of the holidays? Aside for the one that you ate

581
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: with your family?

582
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: Well, is it the best beef for the best response?

583
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: The best response I thought was Big John McCarthy. Am

584
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: I saying that because the Dana video hits close to

585
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: home right now with me? Maybe? But look, I thought

586
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: Big John McCarthy had the most educated, entertaining and rightfully

587
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: ballsy and manly response to Dana. Look, big John was

588
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: featured almost as much as I was in that hit parade,

589
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: in that four minute Scientology recruitment video. But what Big

590
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: John did on the Weighing In podcast with Josh Thompson,

591
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: which by the way, very well done that show. Anytime

592
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: I've checked in on it is come at Dana and

593
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: just be like, look, here's the facts, here's where you

594
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: selectively fought fake news with fake news, and Big John,

595
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: being a you know, a badass mofo, a big dude,

596
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: was just basically like f you, Dana, you know you

597
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: f and this and that. I mean, look, it wasn't

598
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Speaker 1: like over the top, let me find back. It was

599
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: just that you're saying you don't give an f about

600
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: the media, and yet you put out this bitch ass

601
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: video taking fall shots at every single media member. So

602
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: with the way that Big John sort of attacked this

603
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: and responded, it was great. It was entertaining, and I think,

604
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: like us, he came back with facts, right, he attacked

605
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: the you know, the core and the meat of this

606
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: ridiculousness that is that will blow away and we'll never

607
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: talk about it again, Luke. But for this the end

608
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Speaker 1: of this season, and by the way, a lot of

609
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: commenters on our show being like these wim bashed wim

610
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: bashes just took the l and they can't take the l.

611
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: Like look at the end of the day, something Big

612
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: John and Josh said is something I echo. Nobody supported

613
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: Dana White more once they got State Commission approval. Then

614
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: this guy, not that guy, not that guy over there,

615
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: not doctor Luke faucis sitting all pretty there with his

616
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: big ass beard. This guy so me getting roped in there,

617
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: Big John getting roped in there. Ridiculous. Okay, Luke f

618
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: you somehow you completely unscathed and it was a joke

619
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: last week, but maybe the days between you brought this on. Brother.

620
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: Why don't you take a stand now and challenge that

621
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: man to an on air duel.

622
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Speaker 3: All right, I mean, I know, I know people like oh,

623
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: media just can't take that they were wrong. Nope, sorry again,

624
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't want to relitigate this all over again.

625
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: But I had Big John on my radio show right

626
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: before the Florida show, and he was unequivocally supportive of it,

627
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: you know, So to go after Big John, you know,

628
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: for a given a guy who relative to everybody, I mean,

629
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Speaker 3: if you have a range of opinions right where it's

630
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: like totally against totally for where would Big John be?

631
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: He didn't like the stuff with Tachi Palace because no

632
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: person with Himmelian brain could ever justify those actions, which

633
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: is why the media absolutely was justified. They were totally

634
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: right in bashing the UFC's approaching.

635
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: The John Morgan supported it with his blue shirt. Just

636
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: just the heads up there.

637
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I can't speak to John Morgan's decisions

638
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: or all wise, but you know, going against that was

639
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: what if you didn't go against that, something is wrong

640
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: with you, something is wrong with your brain if you

641
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: didn't go against that. So once they switched over to

642
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: the commissions, which is what Hello, you're supposed to do, which,

643
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: by the way, is the law. Then Big John McCarthy

644
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: was completely on board from everything there on. I don't

645
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: think he's one of these guys who's like listen. I'm

646
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: sure if he's asked to wear a mask, he wears it.

647
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to tell the world what his COVID

648
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: views are. I don't know them for sure, but I

649
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: get the sense that he is probably more in alignment

650
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: with Danta about COVID than me, for example, and so

651
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: for Danna to go after him, it's just the most

652
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: absurd thing. This video is only convincing if you're an idiot.

653
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: If you're an idiot, this video is super super convincing.

654
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's it's just total trash. I mean, you take

655
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: it seriously.

656
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: In our comment section, there's a conspiracy that UFC and

657
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: Dana did not go after you, Luke, because you're armed

658
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: with two many facts and truth, and they saw how

659
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: you took down Jail in that one on one and

660
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: they didn't want to give you the attention publicly for

661
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: all the stances you took against COVID.

662
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: Again, I couldn't I couldn't speak to their motivations. You'd

663
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: have to ask them, but going after the media for

664
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: being mad at them when they were trying to put

665
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: shows on in California, when the Commission in California was

666
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: shut down. If you didn't go against that, that's a

667
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: stain on your record for life. Let's just be very

668
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: clear about that. So take the L. Media, No, take

669
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: the L. All you donks out there who got confused

670
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: by bad fucking arguments.

671
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: All right, And by the way, real quick and in closing,

672
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't think Ariel has responded. And by the way,

673
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: I give him my heads up for that. That's actually

674
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: probably the best way. We've probably talked too much about

675
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: this BS. He took the L by just saying fu,

676
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: I'll never mention this again. So well done, Ariel.

677
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, why would you like he got he got,

678
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: he got railroaded. He didn't do anything that the video

679
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: suggested that he did, and the statement that he did

680
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: make was completely fair. So whatever that part's over, What

681
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: do you make about Askron versus Scott Coker? Apparently?

682
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: So, what's the history of the of the back beef?

683
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: There?

684
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: There's more to the story here, because the present story

685
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: is Mike Bond of mm A junkie asked Scott Coker, Uh,

686
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: you know who would win between Ben Askrin and Jake

687
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: Paul in this boxing match? And I think Scott Coker

688
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: said Jake Paul, which you know, I don't know if

689
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: that's the right answer, but I don't.

690
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: Think it was polite. Luke. Uncle Scott said, well, look,

691
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Ben Ashkron's a wrestler. What does that tell you?

692
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: Right?

693
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: Like he was polite and saying right.

694
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: And now Scott is being hammered on social media by

695
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: Ben for that. But it feels like there must be

696
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: more to the story, because was there something about Scott

697
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: and and Askrin related to Bellator at any point? Was

698
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: there was there some kind of bad beef between them

699
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: before all this? I don't it seems like a big

700
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: reaction from Ben for a relatively small slight.

701
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I did. That's why I was wondering. You

702
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: know when I said, I use the words back beef,

703
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about my my my manhandles in

704
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: the in the rear here that I'm working on here,

705
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about back beef. The word is on the

706
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: street that Askern's putting out these tweets of everybody knows

707
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Vicom's trying to sell Bellatory. Now you got Coker coming

708
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: back and saying, you know, I'm a that this is

709
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: not only false, but you might be liable for making

710
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: those statements. So it's getting pretty serious right now. Luke,

711
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I would have to guess, without

712
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: knowing and not having a dog in this fight, either

713
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: that there was some failed negotiation at some point. I

714
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: know when when Ben exited Belatore, for one, it was

715
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: still a Bjorn Rebney product from what I remember, correct.

716
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. He must have left before twenty fourteen, right,

717
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 3: So that was Bjorn Rebney all the way. And I

718
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: know for a fact that Bjorn and Ben had a

719
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: good working relationship, so.

720
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that the back details that was a

721
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: little bit surprising. But what was that third beef you mentioned? Oh,

722
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Ali and Connor? Is there anything more to that than

723
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: those two just hating each other? I mean Connor, by

724
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: the way, congratulations to the mcgregors and his plus four fiance,

725
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: their wife. I mean they're gonna have a third baby

726
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: on the way. Matd bills to pay shout out to them, Luke,

727
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: But we're not This isn't Ali secretly trying to force

728
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: a fight against the beebe's wishes.

729
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: Right, I don't think so. It's just amazing that these

730
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: two keep going at each other without any kind of

731
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: real resolution ever materializing, or you know, I wonder how

732
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: long this will continue because it seems like as long

733
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: as Connor is even remotely active, which you know, obviously

734
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: he's gonna fight coming up in January, but you know

735
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: he doesn't fight all that frequently. This will just be

736
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: a thing that continues. Are they gonna fight like they

737
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: did in the buffet line like Colby and Camaru and

738
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: Ali did you think chucking food at each other? And shit?

739
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

740
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, this has been This is tired and old.

741
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't it's sort of like you

742
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: can't consummate it inside at some form. You're right, why

743
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: are we? Why are we continuing to go down this road?

744
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? And he just brings out They both bring out

745
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 3: the big guns too, like uh, McGregor goes after him

746
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: from some of the uh, the the reports about the

747
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: aliases that he may have had, and then you know,

748
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: then he gets called mc tapper and you quit and

749
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff. They really have. They have quite

750
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: the angry beef there, BC.

751
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of back beef going on there, Luke, Okay.

752
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: You were bored by this one then, huh.

753
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I was bored by that one because, uh again,

754
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: unless this is some kind of secret way to to

755
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: you know, bang the thunder again for a habeb Connor two,

756
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: which you know isn't gonna happen, doesn't look like it's

757
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I mean, can we Here's what I want

758
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. I'm sure we'll have some morning

759
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: combat show where we look ahead to the new year

760
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: and have our wishes and projections. But can we just

761
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: get an answer on habib This is starting to piss

762
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: me off a little bit in this great period in between,

763
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: like is it gonna fight or not? Give up the

764
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: title or not? Reminded me of that like nine months

765
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: where Dana's like, I might get rid of the flyways.

766
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: We just cut about thirty of them, but I'm not

767
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: really sure yet. Just make a fricking decision. Hey, HELBIEB,

768
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: I love you, man, I love the beard. I almost

769
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: have a Habibian thing going on right here. Can you

770
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: just make a public decision and we can end this speculation?

771
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: Please? Thank you and I saw these reports like over

772
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 3: the weekend. I guess he had interviews done with Cormier

773
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: from at some point or maybe he had made some

774
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: kind of statement. It was like, Daniel Cormier believes that

775
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: Kabib will only come back to fight GSP. It's like,

776
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: isn't that what everyone believes?

777
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: Like everyone does? So hey, GSP's gonna wake up tomorrow

778
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: with a full head of hair and be like forty

779
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 1: three before we know it. So can we just either

780
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: either you're doing it or you're not. Can we put

781
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: a title on the line for Connork Poortier two or not?

782
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Either way, just make a damn decision. Okay, I'm sure

783
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: Dana had a great Christmas. Look I'm thinking about, you know,

784
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: us wasting more time on that stupid Dana video. He

785
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: probably didn't even see any of the reaction actions. He

786
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: probably is out on a yacht somewhere in like the

787
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: South China Sea, just you know, like wiping his ass

788
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: with yeah, yeah, all right there, All.

789
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: Right, BC, let's get to our fourth topic as we

790
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: fly through the show. Here Canelo there are reports that

791
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: his next fight won't be against Caleb Plant or Caleb

792
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: Truex or any other Caleb or Billy Joe Saunders or

793
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: a triple G. No, it will be a mandatory WBC

794
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: mandatory I believe against this Turkish dude, you'll deer them.

795
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: It'll be in Mexico City in February, and everyone is like, wait, what, who? Why? BC?

796
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: Should fans be mad that Canelo's next fight is the

797
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: one nobody asked for?

798
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: No, they shouldn't and here's why. Okay, I said. I

799
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: saw a lot of response to this report out there.

800
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: Shout out to Minooka Acopian of the La Times and

801
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: boxing scene, and also my cop Maentuer had part of

802
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: the report as well, and I saw people responding with, Oh, yeah,

803
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: this is why boxing sucks, blah blah, this guy, Oh yeah,

804
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: we're not getting triple G. We're getting Amney Yieldrum. Here's

805
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the deal. Canelo wants to fight three times this year.

806
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: Canelo hates the boxing politriics as much as us. He

807
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: wants to keep that WBC title he just won at

808
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight pounds. The problem is in

809
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: the mandatory business that these belt collectors, these alphabet organizations hold.

810
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: Avney Yielderham's been the mandatory of the WBC for a while,

811
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: so he has to fulfill this obligation. Here are the

812
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: good parts of it. It's not in Mexico City, it's

813
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: it's it's targeted for Guadalajara, which is Canelo's home city.

814
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: So this is like his first time coming back home

815
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: after becoming a superstar. He's faught and he's fought exclusively

816
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: in the United States there since becoming, you know, the

817
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: biggest draw on the sport and having the Floyd fighting

818
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: on and on. This is a stay busy homecoming fight.

819
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Canelo has already announced I

820
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: want to come back in February fight Yieldrum and here's

821
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: here's the deal though, on the eildream real quick. I

822
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: know you never heard of him. He's a fun fighter.

823
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: He's a limit, but he's an action guy. He's probably

824
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna knock him out. It'll be fun to watch. If

825
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: that was his only fight, Luke, or one of two

826
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: fights this year, Yes, be upset. Canelo said, I'm coming

827
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: back in May and I want its target WVO champion

828
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: Billy Joe Saunders at won sixty eight to try to

829
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: unify belts. Saunders is unbeaten. He's hard to negotiate with.

830
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: He's even harder to fight in the ring because he

831
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: fights in like a negative style. This is Canelo going

832
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: out of his way to take a difficult guy, chase

833
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: him down and say I want you. I want to

834
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: unify titles. That's what real fighters do. He's doing that

835
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: and he said, oh, I want to come back a

836
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: third time in the fall, probably on Mexican Independence Day weekend,

837
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: and Luke an interview with his trainer Eddie Renoso, has

838
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: revealed that they're not against TRIPLEG. They'll do it. They

839
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: know the fans want it. Here's their caveat, and I

840
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: think it's fine. They said, we're not doing any favors

841
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: for Gluffkin. It has to be at one sixty eight

842
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: where Canelo will only fight moving forward. They will not

843
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: cut down to one sixty in the future for anyone. Spence, anyone.

844
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: I respect that you're you're the money man in this sport.

845
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: You're saying, come to me. Canelos an undersized super middleweight,

846
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: and he's saying, I prefer not to cut wait. I

847
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: want to get all the titles in work here. How

848
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: can you be upset at that? We get like a

849
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: bonus Canelo fight in February when he was probably only

850
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna come back in May anyway, because that's what superstar

851
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: fighters do. They fight Sako to Mao weekend, they fight

852
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: Mexican Independence Day. It was the Oscar de la Jolla plan,

853
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: it was the Floyd Mayweather plan. Now it's the Canelo plan.

854
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you never heard of Yielderim's he's a little

855
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: he's a wild action fighter. But if this is Canelo's

856
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: gift to people in Mexico and come home and celebrate

857
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: a mariachi's playing the final countdown, I'm here for it.

858
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the health of the sport.

859
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: This is Canelo having his cake and eating it too.

860
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: He still wants to.

861
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: Fight the guy to do with the health of the

862
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: sport or a little.

863
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: Bit nothing at all, dude. The sport would strip the

864
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: wb SAID title from him if he didn't fight this guy.

865
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: So he's doing what this all?

866
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: Right?

867
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't know when I became you know, Canela. Oliver's

868
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: just lead council here. But how could you be upset

869
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: at this unless you don't understand boxing.

870
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 3: I don't. It's not that I think it's it's listen,

871
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: it's certainly not the end of the world. It's not

872
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: worth writing angry columns about how boxing is ruinous to

873
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: fans in tests or anything like that, because to your point,

874
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: he probably he may have not even come back until May. Anyway,

875
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: of course, the Go Demayo is unicated, and then Misking

876
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: Independence Day in September. Right, those are the two big

877
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: dates that he's going to compete on, and if you

878
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: get one in between, he can just kind of squeeze

879
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: in against an overmatched opponent. Is at the end of

880
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: the world, certainly not okay, but number one, you know,

881
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: look at the bit of the larger picture here. It's like,

882
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: these are these moments where I'm like, I don't know

883
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: what MMA needs in terms of getting fighters more money.

884
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like it's the Ali Act, and sometimes

885
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: I feel like it's not. Sometimes I feel like it's

886
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 3: a union. Sometimes it's not. This is one of those

887
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: moments that gives me great pause. I want the fighters

888
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: to get paid like what they get paid in boxing

889
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: or something kind of close. I don't know if I

890
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: want boxing's architecture at MMA, because that to me is

891
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: just a bit of a problem. Well, it's not the

892
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 3: biggest deal here. The mandatory situation, for example, is kind

893
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 3: of a bigger problem to negotiate with Joshua and Furury

894
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: or it's these constant hurdles that get in the way

895
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: or delay the bigger fights you want to see. They

896
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: have to deal with this kind of stuff first. And

897
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: you understand why there's mandatories, right, If people do enough

898
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: good work, they should be able to be rewarded for it.

899
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: I understand. But there's a downside and an upside to

900
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: every kind of system. This is one of the downsides.

901
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: It creates slowness, let me finish, It creates slowness to

902
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: major fights, It creates bureaucratic hurdles, and it is in totality,

903
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: if not, this one explicitly very annoying.

904
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: Right, And that's why it's hard to unify or become

905
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: an undisputed champion of boxing because the alphabets don't want

906
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: you to. They want you to defend your title as

907
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: much as possible and not be held up looking for

908
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: other fights. Why because every time you defend the WBC

909
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: or WBA title, you have to pay a significant portion

910
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: of your purse to that stinking company to wear the belt.

911
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: Is it a sham system? Yes, and even in the

912
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: alphabet mandatory system Luke in theory, if it was set

913
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: up the way it's supposed to be, where the deserving

914
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: get the chance, regardless of how commercially viable they are. Right,

915
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: you win enough fights, as you mentioned, if you're like

916
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: a John Fitch or somebody like that, you win enough fights,

917
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: you stay in line, you get your title shot. The

918
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: problem is the system is so corrupt and broken where

919
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: the promoters tend to slide money under the table, and

920
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: that's why some guy you never heard of becomes the

921
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: number one contender when he's beating nobody, like the guy

922
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Triple G just fought. You're like Camille's the Moretta what Like,

923
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: who the hell? Who the frick is that guy? Right? So, yes,

924
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: boxing's broken. But even in this broken system, Canel will

925
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: fight in this guy in his hometown of February and

926
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: coming back two three months later in a fight we

927
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: kind of need to see. Do we need Billy Joe Saunders?

928
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: Not if you only want Canelo to fight sexy, big fights.

929
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: But Canelo's trying to do something right now. He's saying,

930
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I live at one sixty eight. I want all the belts,

931
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: so to do that he needs to fight Yield him

932
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: to keep a belt, and he needs to fight Saunders

933
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: to get the belt, and then there will be one

934
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: man left, Caleb Plant. So Luke, he's he's not like.

935
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: He could be a total deva. He could be a

936
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather type right now and just be like, I

937
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: only want to fight smaller guys who have no chance,

938
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: who are coming up in wait. He's not doing that, Luke. Okay,

939
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: So let's give Kanolo the respect he deserves. I don't

940
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: care if you watch him against Yilderham in February. Respect

941
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: the man already.

942
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I certainly respect him. But I can understand why

943
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: fans don't want this model. This model is not designed

944
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: to maximally serve the interest of fans. You have to

945
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: just say that out loud. It's not it's not designed

946
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: to serve their interests.

947
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: Boxing. He's designed to line the pockets of promoters. We

948
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: already know this though.

949
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: Or other interested stakeholders like the sanctioning bodies or managers

950
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: or whatever. But you know, it is not designed to

951
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: serve as fans interests in a timely way. And so

952
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: it's like we have all these discussions after Canelo beats

953
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: Callum Smith, like what's next, Oh, well, it could be

954
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: Triple G and it could be Caleb Plant. It's not

955
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: any of those fucking things. In fact, of the names

956
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: that are interesting to me, the least which is Caleb Plant,

957
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: but maybe one of the better ones given some of

958
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: the other alternatives. That's the one that's third in line,

959
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 3: between Yilderum, Billy Joe Saunders and then Caleb Plant or

960
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: maybe Triple G after that. It's just so fucking annoying.

961
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: How you constantly have to like put it off, put

962
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: it off, The amount of procrastination do you through bureaucracy

963
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: in boxing? It is overwhelming, But it is so overwhelming.

964
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: Is it better than the second half of Floyd's career?

965
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not here. I'm not here to shit on

966
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: flip Floyd ended up fighting everybody. He did it on

967
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: his own terms. But the second half of Floyd's career,

968
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: it was always why isn't he fighting this other champion

969
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: or this other welterweight who would be perfect, but instead

970
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: he wants to fight this old guy or this small

971
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: guy moving up. It's the same thing. Yeah, it's it's bs.

972
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why boxing is where it is and it's

973
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: where it's always gonna be. It's all BS, Luke, But

974
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: that BS tastes really good when they put it up

975
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: on a big shiny plate and they charge you one

976
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: hundred bucks for it, and you know, you know, I mean,

977
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: come on, it's just you know, they put it like

978
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: this show.

979
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: Floyd punches Victor Ortiz when he's not ready and you're like, wait,

980
00:44:59,360 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: what happened?

981
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: And that's his only knockout in like a fifteen years man,

982
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: except for King and yeah, so like but it's like

983
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: this show, Luke, they put a nice sauce on top,

984
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: and man, that sauce just tastes so damn fricking good. Right,

985
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: there's people that hate you, Luke, but they come to

986
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: this MK food stand for the sauce brother.

987
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, again, you have a very very idea loot

988
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: of of what you provide here. But I'll say this

989
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 3: Yielderum fine, I'll watch, especially if it's like for cheap

990
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: pay per view or something like that. But the broader

991
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: picture of the brokenness of boxing, to which this is

992
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: a contributing part but not the worst example of, I

993
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: do think you have to take inventory of that, all right, last,

994
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: but not least BC your favorite topic. Japanese mma. Baby,

995
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: there is still one more card left in the Year

996
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 3: of Our Lord twenty twenty, and it'll be Rising twenty

997
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: six as well. I think we'll be on Fight TV

998
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: on pay per view. I think I think it's like

999
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: fifty bucks. I have to double check your commentators. Joe

1000
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 3: Ferraro shouts to him. Ferraro, I think it's this out

1001
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: of Canada showdown Joe and then Frank Trigg. They do

1002
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: a great draw job in your main event. BC. I'm

1003
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: very much looking forward to this. There are something known

1004
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: there like the Diaz Brothers of Japan, the Asakura brothers

1005
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: for the one hundred and thirty five pound belt, which

1006
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: Hora Gucci used to have had to give it up,

1007
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: and then Osakora won even though he beat him in

1008
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: a non title fair and won it later on Kayosakora

1009
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: rematching Kyogi Horaguci. This is horr Guci's first fight I

1010
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: think since losing that non title about two Osakora. We

1011
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 3: got blitzed and knocked the fuck out inside the first round.

1012
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: BC level of excitement for the return of Kyogi Horagucci.

1013
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: There's no disrespect to Hora Gucci who is you know,

1014
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: among the best in the world at what he does

1015
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: in his weight class. Look, I knew, I knew you

1016
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: were I got it. I had to look it up

1017
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: Rise in twenties. Kaiosacara, I don't I'm sorry, I don't

1018
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: know Kayosakura, Kayouji.

1019
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 2: Horr.

1020
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: Gucci hasn't fun like over a year. I'm looking up

1021
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: and down this card. We got tensed in Osakawa, but

1022
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: he's not fighting Floyd again Luke, and then there's Hey

1023
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: taking or going He's back. Okay, that's cool. Look, I

1024
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: don't care. Let's be honest right negative for Luke. I'd

1025
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: rather I'd rather watch that data four minute video and

1026
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: debate it all again with you and re litigate it.

1027
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: Then probably watch this, but maybe it'll end up and

1028
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: have you seen this shit? If it's good, I'll check

1029
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: Coposa's Twitter afterwards. Thank you?

1030
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: Wow? You really are that gonna be hear me? That

1031
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: shitty to killchi Jorgucci, who might be one of the

1032
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: best bantam weights in the world.

1033
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: Really, I have nothing against Asian people. They're fantastic. This

1034
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: is just low profile in my radar of the atmosphere.

1035
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Wow, I'm really glad. We're doing a

1036
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: great preview here for the audiences. And I and I

1037
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: thank you BC so greatly for the amount of homework

1038
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: that you did in glancing at Wikipedia.

1039
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: No, you, why don't you preview the fight. I'll I'll

1040
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: entertain myself. I'll read a book or something. Go ahead,

1041
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: pre tell us about if whoor Gucci can turn back

1042
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: time and get revenge against kai Asa kara Asakura.

1043
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: You know? And why are you saying it like the

1044
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: dude with the buck teeth and breakfast at Tiffany's. Jesus Christ, Mickey,

1045
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: We'll not make you rob what's his name? Yes, Kayasakora

1046
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: rematching Kilji Horraguci at one hundred and thirty five pounds. Asakora,

1047
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 3: by the way, has won three of his last four.

1048
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: The last one he lost and I'm gonna mispronounce his

1049
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: name is man Al Cape Cape. This is the dude

1050
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 3: who just got signed by UFC at flyweight, so that's

1051
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: the only one he's lost. He won it the the

1052
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: bansamweight title for the organization back in August, and now

1053
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: he's going to rematch Kiji Horragucci. He's win over him

1054
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: was a bit of an upset at the time back

1055
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: at what Rise in eighteen. I believe this will be

1056
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: Rising twenty six, so that'll be your main event. Would

1057
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: be very curious to see how killed you we had

1058
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: to give up by the way his bullets were and

1059
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: his rise in titles then, as NBC indicated quite racistly,

1060
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: tension Masakawa is in your main comey, excuse me, but

1061
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 3: that'll be the kickboxing bout against a WBC tie champion.

1062
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: Other bouts of interesting note on this one to me,

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Speaker 3: Technorri Gomi's in a sort of a custom rules bout

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00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 3: which is supposed to be an MMA vout, but it's

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00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: mostly stand up I think, and if it goes to

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Speaker 3: a decision, there's no winner, so someone has to get

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Speaker 3: kind of knocked out or like stop with strikes in

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Speaker 3: this one. The other one is the ADAM Weight title

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Speaker 3: online between Ayakahamasaki and Miyu Yamamoto. Yamasaki excuse me, a

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00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: Hamasaki at twenty and three as a very decorated record.

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Speaker 3: You'll note not a lot of adam weight fighters getting

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Speaker 3: a lot of opportunity inside of North American promotions. Obviously

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00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: there's been some of that. If we're Invicta, but this

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00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: is gonna be one of your better matchups between those

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Speaker 3: and then last but not least, well, I should say,

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Speaker 3: there's a couple more things on this one. Back on

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Speaker 3: this one is gonna be fan favorite. Oh what's the

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Speaker 3: Ikahisa Minowa right, Minowa man's gonna be on this card,

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Speaker 3: and then the other Asakurro brother is on this as well.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Hideo Takoro's on this as well. You know,

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Speaker 3: one time Japanese Vet and I think he fought in

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Speaker 3: UFC for a couple of times, if memory serves I

1083
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 3: believe that's right. I could be getting that wrong. Bellatur once.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure we're else. He fought dream a bunch

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Speaker 3: of times, but he was pretty good for his day.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. There's your very very quick rising, right, Luke.

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Speaker 1: You know, my disrespect to the fine people of Asia, notwithstanding,

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00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: is your care level higher than Ryan Garcia Luke Campbell

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00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: on Saturday and his own?

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00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, it's a little higher than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, well, look maybe it would

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00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: be I know a great place where you can preview

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00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: that card at length and probably get more clicks than

1094
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: you do on this channel. It's called the Luke Thomas

1095
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. You can find it usually right after big

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00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: news breaks before you watch Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: I literally have put one post up in like fifteen days.

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00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: But okay, keep crying about it. I'm sure you're right.

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Speaker 3: All right. So that's it for us. We see, when

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Speaker 3: we have asked all the relevant questions to each other,

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Speaker 3: you seem very checked out. So we will move on

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Speaker 3: to a place where the audience gets to ask us questions.

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00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: It's time for dms from Dignity donks. Let's get to

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Speaker 3: it here. Very good, there's the animation.

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Speaker 2: He huh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Jay, this is where you put the questions on

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Speaker 3: the screen. Now you understand that? Very good? All right?

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Speaker 1: First the ones from last week, Jay, the new ones,

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Speaker 1: the new.

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Speaker 3: Ones ye from Dan's Elephant. Canelo versus Prime Hagler at

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00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: super middle How does it go? BC?

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00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Hagler operated at middleweight for pretty much

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00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: his entire career, but Canelo is a small super middleweight,

1114
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: so you're basically talking about this as a middleweight matchup

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00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: where they're not cutting down. Canelo's great, I mean, he's

1116
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: the man of this era commercially also now critically due

1117
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: to his ascent to the top of the powerful pound ladder. Luke,

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00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: he's a fantastic counterpuncher. He's very technical. His power has

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00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: carried up. But it's the same thing when we all

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Speaker 1: fell and I was dude, I was ride in the train.

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00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: I was the conductor of the triple g Juju original

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00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: train when all we had. Luke was the eye test

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Speaker 1: of sitting front row when he ruined Matt Macklin with

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00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: a body shot right, seeing him fight all these B

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Speaker 1: level guys and being like, man, is he as good

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Speaker 1: as Hagler?

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00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: Would he be?

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Speaker 1: Prime Hopkins? What are we watching here? I think we

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00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: all sort of had a hard on from here to

1130
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: handover with that guy, and maybe it was a little

1131
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: bit too extreme when reality, Hagler is freaking Hagler. He

1132
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: can switch dances, he can pure box you, He's got

1133
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: the best chin in the game, and oh, by the way,

1134
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: he can get you out of there with both hands.

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00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: Let's give Canelo still the legendary respect and say a

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00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: fight between the two of them. I mean it is,

1137
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: it is great, It is mouth watering, But I still

1138
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: don't see somebody doing that to Hagler in a straight

1139
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: up setting like sugary. Leonard surprised him, and look, Hagler

1140
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: fought a really bad game plan in the first half

1141
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: of that fight, and it was still a pick him fight.

1142
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: And that was the last fight of Hagler's career, and

1143
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: they still went to the scorecards with you going, I'm

1144
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: not really sure who won, but we've seen somebody really

1145
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: solve on the highest level, that prime middleweight Hagler.

1146
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Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: I would take Hagler in a in a by decision,

1148
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: in a great fight. I just think he's he's fast,

1149
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: he's durable, he's tough as hell.

1150
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: And he's cold.

1151
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: He's also tricky. Folks don't give him cdit for that.

1152
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: He was a tricky fighter.

1153
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: Where the old school of the adjustments lude, the old

1154
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: school fighters had plans B through Z. Ready for you, right,

1155
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: because they went through wars in the gym, they're fighting

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00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: four or five times year. I mean, it was just

1157
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: a different ballgame. And Hagler was old school for the eighties,

1158
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: right in the seventies. So I got Hagler over Canelo.

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00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: I think Canelo would not throw enough in the end,

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Speaker 1: and I think Hagler would be busy and he would

1161
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: he would dilute Canelo's output to a certain degree, he

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00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: would make Canelo have to be the counterpuncher, is what

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00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And if you're telling me Hagler can be

1164
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: the aggressor in that matchup, I like him being able

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Speaker 1: to throw with both hands and switch stances like that.

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Speaker 3: Hagler in fact my favorite boxer ever. So I love

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Speaker 3: your answer, BC. I have nothing special to add to that,

1168
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Speaker 3: Okay from Gabe Cherico or Kurko, depending how one pronounces it. BC.

1169
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: Do you find old classic fights like Griffin versus Bonner,

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00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: for example, less entertaining now because of how much the

1171
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: game has improved since then? When was the last time

1172
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 3: we saw that fight? Because let me tell you something,

1173
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 3: It's historical relevance is undeniable. Its level of awesomeness has

1174
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: declined dramatically. That fight was a donk fest by modern standards,

1175
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: and there's no getting around it.

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Speaker 1: I think that might be a bad example, only because

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Speaker 1: if you're going to rewatch that, you're watching it for

1178
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: the blood guts in the action, right, It's like Gotty

1179
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: ward Esku, So you're I think that there would be

1180
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: a better comparison. Give me another really big title fight

1181
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: from back then. Even before that, what's that two or.

1182
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: Try Shamrock UFC forty.

1183
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a better comparison. If I go back and

1184
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: watch like the the the Randy Couture title fights from

1185
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: that original run, or the Tito Ortez light heavyweight title

1186
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: reign or something like that, I think that's where you

1187
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: see such a remedial level in terms of the well

1188
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: rounded game and the avenues of victory. I mean it's like,

1189
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Am I gonna out box him?

1190
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: Or ground and pound him?

1191
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: Right?

1192
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's really like, Yeah, it's such a different,

1193
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: more sophisticated game today. I think that's a bad example,

1194
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: but I think the spirit of the question is perfect, Luke,

1195
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: when you do go back there and watch the best

1196
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Speaker 1: fights from two thousand and two, oh three, oh four.

1197
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I haven't watched fad Or crow Cop

1198
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: two thousand and five from Pride in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Would that hold up skills wise?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, that might hold up a little bit better

1201
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: because Fador was kind of ahead of his time and

1202
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 3: modern mma is probably a little bit advanced. Plus we

1203
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: don't really fight in a ring anymore, so there's a

1204
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: little bit that's old to it, but that one was

1205
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: a contest where the careful forward pressure of fad Or

1206
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 3: really deluded the ability of a guy like micro cro

1207
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: Cop to set his feet, and so it allowed fad

1208
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: Or to explode into range and to dominate. That one

1209
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 3: would hold up better because that was a pretty sophisticated fight,

1210
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: especially for its era. Maybe not like as good as

1211
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: the best heavyweight fights of today, but still pretty good.

1212
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: Okay, what about Like I'm trying to think, what is

1213
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: a really good non heavy like lower weight class early

1214
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: UFC fight like.

1215
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: BJ, any of the two fivers so like, or even

1216
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: that below.

1217
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: The heavies and the quasi heavies like BJ, Penn Kale

1218
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: Uno or something with that whole.

1219
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: No, those fights kind of suck. There's a lot of

1220
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: draws with BJ. Early I would say something that's a

1221
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: good fight outside of that. I mean, it depends how

1222
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: early you want to go some of the Matt Hughes fights.

1223
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you could go to yeah, good call, good call.

1224
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1225
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what holds up today, chemo Versus hoy

1226
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: S Gracey. I'll love that fight, man. He put that

1227
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: man through hell, Okay.

1228
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: Pulling all the hair a chemo Versus Shamrock was actually

1229
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: interesting when Shamrock hat in with the chin through the

1230
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: double underhooks, which was kind of a nice one. But

1231
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 3: I do think it's something to be said for the

1232
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 3: fact that, like, dude, modern MMA, even your slot fest today, like,

1233
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 3: you know, a crazy fight for example, Spike Carlisle, the

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00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: best TV fighter ever, the Ginger Ninja and Billy Corntillo, Right,

1235
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: I mean this crazy back and forth, you know that

1236
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 3: is a way better back and forth than Griffin versus Bonner.

1237
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 3: It's just that Griffin versus Bonner represented something kind of

1238
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: interesting at a very pivotal moment in MMA's existence, particularly

1239
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: here in North America, and so for those reasons, it

1240
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: holds prestige. But like does it hold up? Fuck no,

1241
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't hold up, not even close.

1242
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Look, do you really think I've checked out because of

1243
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: Koyuji Horrigucci in this show today?

1244
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: Is this?

1245
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean this is this?

1246
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: You checked out during that segment for sure. I mean

1247
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: you were definitely being a little bit you know, you know,

1248
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 3: I better check myself before I reckon. I will agree

1249
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 3: with you that the most annoying MMA fan on earth

1250
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: is the one that over prioritizes Japanese MMA, but the

1251
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: one who under prioritizes it isn't much better.

1252
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: Should I go back and revisit the two fight series

1253
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: with Caldwell to get me excited for this Kai awsome

1254
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Kara fight.

1255
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: No, just go watch the first Asakora fight. Okay, he

1256
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: fucking bludgeons, It's great.

1257
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Luke. I will do that and

1258
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: get back to you on Wednesday when we preview Ryan

1259
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: Garcia Luke Campbell. And also when are we going to

1260
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: break down all things the Rock? And I'm not talking

1261
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: about Dwayne Johnson.

1262
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that at the end of the show.

1263
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: So hang on, let's get through the rest of these

1264
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: questions here. Please pour for four? All right? Uh from

1265
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: at M Porter four forty BC. And this is the

1266
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: question they're asking, so don't kill us on Twitter? Ben,

1267
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 3: does any fighter in modern MMA have worse boxing than Ben?

1268
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: Ask him does he mean? Does he mean? Does he

1269
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: mean at like at like the UFC level?

1270
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Because you gotta does Chase Hooper count does see him?

1271
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: Punkh Hey, by the way, Chase Hooper, I saw his

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Speaker 1: comments and reaction to like Rogan just roasting him during

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Speaker 1: that fight. I get it. It's gotta be hard when

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Speaker 1: you're like a young fighter in your fight and then

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: you go back and your heroes are just being like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even think this guy should be in the UFC,

1277
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Speaker 1: but whatever.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he should be in the UFC. I mean,

1279
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Speaker 3: he's good enough to get wins in the UFC, but

1280
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Speaker 3: he's too young.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk modern elite quasi title contending MMA. Who has

1282
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: worse stand up than Ben Askrin showed in the Maya fight,

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Speaker 1: in the Robbie Lawler fight, or worse hands. We're the

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Speaker 1: worst hands, Luke.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you narrow it to the elite quasi

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Speaker 3: title contender type Ronda Rousey. I mean, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I used to talk to Duke Grufus about Ben's striking,

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Speaker 3: and they were pretty explicit about it. They only really

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Speaker 3: focused on ground and pound. They did work on that,

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Speaker 3: and I actually feel like Ben's ground and pound was

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it tremendous, like it wasn't like, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, you know, he was killing people with it,

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Speaker 3: but it was pretty good when he wanted it to

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Speaker 3: be in certain parts, like it was definitely a much

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Speaker 3: more developed part of his game. That is a straight up,

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Speaker 3: stand up, and Ronda had like terrible ground and pounds.

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Speaker 3: She had no ground and pound. So if you want

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Speaker 3: to look at it like that, you could maybe say Ronda,

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Speaker 3: because I do think that Ben had enough ground and

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Speaker 3: pounds to like force change and position score.

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Speaker 1: Damon, Ronda, you got to give her credit. She knocked

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Speaker 1: out Kohea, and who was the other one with a

1303
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: body shot? Remember?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah she did. Yeah, well that was a knee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, yeah, oh Sarah McMahon with the knee.

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: And then she she took down Alexis Davis and GM

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Speaker 1: pede her to hell. So, I mean there were some

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Speaker 1: wins in there.

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Speaker 3: We noll. You're right, You're right, You're right. That's a

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Speaker 3: fair point. It's a fair guy. Ronda's career has been

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Speaker 3: erased from my memory.

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Speaker 1: How about Alexei Olennok, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I would have to look more at

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Speaker 3: his re I mean, listen, I'll say this, Ben did

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01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: not pray. Ben did not prioritize striking. You know, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's a very controversial statement to make.

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: He obviously wanted to make use of his wrestling. He

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Speaker 3: had good subs, when he wanted it, or at least

1319
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: you know, sort of like good, good, good joint manipulation,

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Speaker 3: the kind of thing to like force bad positions. And

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Speaker 3: his Matt wrestling was absolutely tremendous, some of the best

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in MMA. When he was you know,

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Speaker 3: the guy who fought Douglas Lima or Koreshkov the second time,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he fucking demolished these Well not Lima hung

1325
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 3: in there, but Koreshkov got absolutely worked over, you know,

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01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: that guy before really all the injuries began to set in.

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Speaker 3: Was a force to be taken quite seriously. And I

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Speaker 3: think all of us who were paying attention at the time,

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: did you know, But did Ben really put in a

1330
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: lot of emphasis on working on his jab? No, not really.

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01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 3: I don't think that that was the thing he did

1332
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: so like by virtue of just like seeding that territory

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Speaker 3: to his competitors. Maybe the answer is yes, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: And by comparison, guys like Dimian Maya and jockarrey Soza,

1336
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: who were known for not having hands anywhere on the

1337
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: level of the ground game, they've evolved into, you know,

1338
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: different levels of credible. I mean jockh Ray was was.

1339
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: You know, he's a pretty pretty damn good striker at

1340
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: this point in his career. Comparatively, Ben never added anything, Luke.

1341
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Speaker 1: I mean besides that straight jab to shoot in for

1342
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: the takedown.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, agreed. It's it just was never

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01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: a priority for him. I don't think he ever really

1345
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 3: cared about working on at least not very much. All right,

1346
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: So let's go to at Scott McCrate. Luke, have you

1347
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 3: ever declined a request to spot a fellow lifter because

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: they were wearing weightlifting gloves? No, I've never declined a request,

1349
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: but I've had people asking me when they had lifting gloves.

1350
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 3: We see like on the bench press, and I actually

1351
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: add weight to the bar by pressing it into their

1352
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: throat as a as a payback for wearing fucking gloves.

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01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 3: You should never ever wear gloves unless you're a hand model, Luke.

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Speaker 1: That's just I mean, you're just you're just overblowing.

1355
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: So it's not what is the What is the re dude?

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01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. I can show you

1357
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: any kind of strength sport, whether it's strong man, Olympic weightlifting, powerlifting, bodybuilding,

1358
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 3: the very best pro you will never see them wear gloves.

1359
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: You will see them all wear belts, because the belt

1360
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: is actually pretty important. The glove is a relic of

1361
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 3: the nineteen eighties sweating to the oldies richer what was

1362
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: his name, Richard Simmons? Fucking I mean, what are we

1363
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 3: doing here? Do not ever wear gloves. They serve no

1364
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 3: purpose other than to tell everyone there that, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Lift, yeah, yeah, you know, sitting down or something. So look,

1366
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: my dad used to began dragging me to the gym,

1367
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: and obviously, in hindsight, I should have focused and really

1368
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: put in the effort. But you know, he began dragging

1369
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: me to the gym at age fourteen. And you know,

1370
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: I went on my own through high school, college, and look,

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Speaker 1: I had some good years in my single prime BC

1372
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: twenties of being pretty pretty cut and stuff. But who

1373
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: cares about that right now? My whole point of this

1374
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: is is being that young kid in the gym a lot,

1375
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: you know, driving yourself in high school and going and

1376
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: you know, you do your own ish. Why was I

1377
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: such a magnet luke to the gym? Weirdos? Right, So

1378
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: imagine every gym's got it. The bald white guy who's

1379
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: short but stocky and big and would wear those freaking

1380
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: ball shorts right like the like the Spandex ball shorts

1381
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: would have like a tank top that's barely even there.

1382
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Speaker 1: And the kind of guy that would scream at the

1383
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: top of his lungs with every rep so everybody could

1384
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: look at him and see how big he is. That

1385
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: guy would seek me out across the gym, Luke, like

1386
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: like you had to do. You had to use the

1387
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: no eye contact rule in the gym, right, same use

1388
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: you same rule you use in big cities like you could,

1389
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: because they just find you. And why do they pick

1390
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: the skinny kid who doesn't even want to be there

1391
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, come spot me? And they never ask.

1392
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: It's always tell. It's always like yeah, like we're in

1393
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: jail or something. And then I got a spot this

1394
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: giant dude who's got a rack with like two or

1395
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: three forty five's on each side. Look, I could barely

1396
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: pick up the forty five s toe even attempt like

1397
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: a shoulders strug. What could I possibly do if this

1398
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: guy was in trouble? Nothing, Luke? Why was I always

1399
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: the target of that?

1400
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Why did you have to walk around holding the inside

1401
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: of his pocket? Afterwards as well.

1402
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: No, but it was like you you can't, you can't

1403
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: say no. You're intimidated at that point, and then you

1404
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: realize the guy smells my crouch is standing over his

1405
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: face like it's just such crap. Sure if you've ever

1406
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: done that to a young kid, Luke, have you ever?

1407
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 2: No?

1408
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 3: I don't ever ask for spots of the.

1409
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: Gym, Okay, ask for a spot maybe from somebody you

1410
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: know or a guy you see all the time. Hey,

1411
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: I got a big lift coming up. These are the

1412
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: guys who go there and they're just looking for fish, right,

1413
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: It's like the first night in jail, right, they're just

1414
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: trying to find people.

1415
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: Like.

1416
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't get that. I don't get that culture at all, Luke.

1417
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: It drives people out of gym's.

1418
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, there's less of that today, certainly of the

1419
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: gym I go to. I don't really see a whole

1420
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 3: lot of that. Although in the COVID era, nobody even

1421
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: talks to each other and there's hardly anyone in the

1422
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 3: gym anyway. But I don't really see a whole lot

1423
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: of that anymore. But you know, you still see. Well now,

1424
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 3: so in DC, I told you the rules are very

1425
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: pretty strict. There can be no more than twenty people

1426
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: at the gym mask at all times. They give you

1427
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: a water thing or and he said to give to

1428
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 3: spray down everything you touch. Locker rooms are closed. You

1429
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: can't go to the locker rooms. There's a bathroom. You

1430
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: can use it, like if you have to go number one,

1431
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: number two. But there's no way to change, like you

1432
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: just have to show up what you show up and

1433
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 3: then leave. You got to check in and out like

1434
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: you know, you're contact tracing the whole nine yards. I mean,

1435
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 3: it's a very strict thing. I will say closing down

1436
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 3: the locker room has been a great thing because that's

1437
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: where the real weirdos go around.

1438
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: It's like, well, that's where the nude old guys just congregate.

1439
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: They spend all freaking day in there, brushing their teeth,

1440
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: combing their.

1441
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 3: Back, brushing their teeth, brushing their teeth after they shower,

1442
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: wearing a T shirt, socks and shoes, no undies, dicking balls,

1443
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: shriveled and old, just flapping in the breeze right by

1444
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 3: the sink, water splashing on it for a second time.

1445
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: That's the walk COVID. I gotta think I have to

1446
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: thank COVID for shutting all that shit down.

1447
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: And you gotta take a dump because you miss timed

1448
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: the takeout you had for lunch that day. And you're like, man,

1449
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: I gotta wash my hands. I can't go back to

1450
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: the machines with dump hands. But you gotta. You gotta

1451
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: fit in between two old guys who didn't even work out. Look,

1452
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: they came there to shower and hang out now.

1453
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: And sit in the sauna. That's exactly right.

1454
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: I guess that's why Turkish baths are a thing.

1455
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1456
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't understand this world, Luke. I'm glad we got

1457
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: rid of those people, okay, because.

1458
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I went to I went to Turkey with

1459
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 3: my wife in like twenty fourteen or something, and she

1460
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: was like, do you want to go to a bath

1461
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 3: and get a massage? I was like, fuck no, hell no,

1462
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to do any of that shit. Why

1463
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 3: would I want to go and relive the parts of

1464
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 3: the gym that I hate?

1465
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: Jay, Sometimes you have a perspective that's wanted in this show.

1466
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: Why do men I don't know if it's part of you.

1467
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: Is this your tribe?

1468
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: Do they do this?

1469
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: Why would a would a grown man go to a

1470
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: male bath house unless he's George Michael.

1471
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: Now the darker version of the people of my tribe,

1472
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: you know, I'm talking about the more Eastern block Jews.

1473
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: Jay, Please don't get racist on here.

1474
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean you mean a more Stodemeyer Rock.

1475
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's a whole different kind of Jew I

1476
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: can't speak to because, uh yeah, but they love the

1477
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 2: bath houses. They're big on the You ever been to

1478
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: Queen's a lot of bathhouses?

1479
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: What happens in there? Is this just like a beat

1480
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: at festival? What is happening?

1481
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of the mikva Brian Campbell? No, No,

1482
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: it is Uh it's a Jewish ritual bathhouse where lots

1483
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: of men get naked and then dip in the pool

1484
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: at the same time, and it's it's a holy experience.

1485
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Jay? Have you ever worn

1486
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: gloves into weightlift in person? In public?

1487
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: Yes? Why did they? And did they make you look

1488
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 3: tough by cutting out little holes over your and have

1489
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: the ribs?

1490
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: Like what do I want to ruin my hands on

1491
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: the ribs on the bars?

1492
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 3: You mean ruined? You mean manly? You know, man them up?

1493
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 3: Why would you want your hands to have calluses like

1494
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 3: a fucking man. Gee. I couldn't imagine why you would

1495
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 3: want those things other than they're helpful and awesome.

1496
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: What points do you get from looking like you just finished,

1497
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: you know, building a roof for like six weeks?

1498
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't know lots.

1499
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: I have smooth hands people like that.

1500
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: Why does she want to look like a migrant worker, Luke,

1501
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: just so he could be tough likeho?

1502
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: I didn't handing out a migrant worker. I'm not the

1503
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: racist one here. I gotta go.

1504
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, BC can't help himself. He's like, yeah,

1505
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: but what about all the people at home depot, in

1506
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: the parking lot. Why would you want hands like theirs?

1507
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 3: Because their hands are tough as shit. That's why that's

1508
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: exactly whose hands I want. I'm not. I'm not out

1509
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: here looking for esthetics. I'm out here looking for functionality.

1510
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: I want to be able to grip shit and open it.

1511
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 3: I want to have the fucking gripped, the traction and

1512
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,839
Speaker 3: the strength to do that. Gloves.

1513
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: You got an idea, I've got an idea, Luke that

1514
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: involves the two of us, maybe even Jay. Due to

1515
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: the success of our first documentary, The Return to the studio.

1516
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: What if we do part two? We'll call it BC

1517
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: in DC makes it look easy, and I come and

1518
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: I stay in your house. We bring the camera crew

1519
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: with us. We work out in the front yard. I

1520
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: get quality time with a Bueila, uncle Philippe, whatever, bounce

1521
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: the kid on the knee, whatever, whatever's fair and custom

1522
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: in your house. And that's our new that's our second

1523
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: doc Okay, I think.

1524
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's amazing. And then there

1525
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 3: could be a third one later on where I go

1526
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 3: and visit the King of Connecticut in the court of

1527
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: Factory Town where he has presided over his pleabs. That'll

1528
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 3: be the follow up to the follow up.

1529
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: We that gas stations. Yes, this is this is this

1530
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: is good. We're building something here. Jay, would you would

1531
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: you be part of this? Because wait, Jay, let's real quick.

1532
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: This is the last time I'll bring in Jake, because

1533
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: I know our ratings go bullshit? Jay, why did you

1534
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: have zero part of the documentary? I mean you were

1535
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: you were, I mean yeah, we sent you the hell

1536
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: during the show, but you were right. You didn't have

1537
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: an editor. You're the you're the award winning directory show.

1538
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: Malca was like, keep this guy away from this project.

1539
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: The funny part is now that you pointed out everybody knows,

1540
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: but had you watched it, I don't think you would

1541
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: assume that with the sheer number of times I was

1542
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: sent straight on a one way first class ticket to help.

1543
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 3: You're welcome, all right?

1544
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: All right, Jay, will you have a hand on any

1545
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: future documentaries that we do?

1546
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 3: Can we definitely question? Please?

1547
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: I will definitely come to Connecticut and eat dog ship

1548
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: food with you. That's for sure.

1549
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 3: All right? Very good. Last, but not least, BC, we

1550
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: go to Empty Booble, who asks which was worse that

1551
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 3: imagine cover video starring gal Gado? You know where they

1552
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 3: all the celebrities during the beginning of Quarantine all self

1553
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 3: Involved or Wonder Woman in nineteen eighty four, also starring

1554
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: gal Gado. Surely you saw that imagined video and it

1555
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: was just the fucking worst?

1556
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: Was the imagined video pretentious? Yes?

1557
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 3: Right?

1558
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean, And that's what happens whenever there's like, you know,

1559
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of people saying that that white

1560
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: rich Housewives has tried to steal the whole Black Lives

1561
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: Matter thing from black people right this twenty twenty and

1562
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: made it their crusade. But is it any different, Luke,

1563
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 1: than We Are the World hands across America? People don't

1564
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, unless you lived in the eighties, you don't

1565
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: remember these things. But we're all these rich celebrities get

1566
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: together and do a ton of coke and you know,

1567
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: record some song like we Ain't gonna play sun City

1568
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: for the people. You know, Like it's all the same

1569
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: in the end.

1570
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know, it wasn't We Are the World

1571
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: part of like Live Aid, which was one of the

1572
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 3: most epic concerts of the decade.

1573
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: Well Live Aid was awesome.

1574
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was run by a black guy with

1575
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: another black guy, so nobody was going to send it

1576
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: to hell. Okay, it was Michael Jackson. It was Michael

1577
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: Jackson and Lionel Richie.

1578
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were stars at the time. I mean,

1579
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: people like gal Gado. I don't think she's like a

1580
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 3: dislikable person per se, but that thing was just tone

1581
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 3: deaf in the middle of the pandemic, you know. And

1582
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 3: also we're in a bit of a different era with

1583
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: celebrity culture like it used to be. I feel like

1584
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:32,560
Speaker 3: celebrity culture was way just totally permissive and open and

1585
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 3: there was no pushback. And now I'm not saying it's

1586
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: not cool to be a celebrity. It obviously is, but

1587
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: there's a lot more scrutiny about their actions than there

1588
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: once was, and so that was part of it as well.

1589
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it was hard to be

1590
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: a rich celebrity during the quarantine, do you, Luke?

1591
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 3: No, I don't mean it's not what I'm saying. It's,

1592
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: of course, it's almost even to be better to do

1593
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: that than the alternative. What I'm saying is relative to

1594
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 3: how easy celebrities might have had it in the eighties.

1595
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 3: I think they get a little bit more insults from

1596
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 3: the peanut gallery these days than they used to. I

1597
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 3: think that's the point I'm making.

1598
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: Did you take part, by the way, in hands across

1599
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: America in like nineteen eighty six?

1600
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: We did? We did. We had to do it as

1601
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 3: part of elementary school. We had to all hold hands.

1602
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 3: I think the city of DC made all the kids

1603
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: in elementary school hold hands all one big line across

1604
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania Avenue. So yeah, I went to Watkins Elementary, which

1605
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 3: is down by the old hardware store, not too far

1606
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 3: from the Marine Corps barracks. I went that we had

1607
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: to go outside and do that. Yeah, yeah, I just.

1608
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I googled it. We are the World whereised sixty

1609
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: three million dollars for African hunger relief. So that's probably

1610
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 2: why it wasn't sentel.

1611
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah versus the Imagine video was just you know, like them,

1612
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: just you know, mentally masturbating on your face. Not nearly

1613
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: as fun BC.

1614
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: Wow, Well let me wipe that off, Lukie. Yeah, okay,

1615
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: thank you?

1616
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 3: All right. Well, with that in mind, and by the way,

1617
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 3: don't see Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four even high. It's

1618
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: fucking terrible. Okay, With that in mind, let's now go

1619
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 3: to the part of the show where we're off the rails,

1620
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 3: even though we kind of already are with your lack

1621
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 3: of prep for Rising twenty six previews. Have you seen

1622
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: the shit? Let's do it?

1623
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 1: Wow? That was a sad throw, Luke. All right, Bojo Risen.

1624
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: We scour the globe, Luke, the highs and the lows,

1625
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and the ugly and the in between.

1626
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 3: It is.

1627
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: Have you seen this shit? And Luke, we're gonna start

1628
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: off with a Merry Christmas message from Jeffrey Epstein. I

1629
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: don't know if he celebrates it. He's no longer living,

1630
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: but this is a hell of an ornament, Luke. This

1631
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: ornament didn't hang itself with Jeffrey's picture on it.

1632
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: You don't super funny?

1633
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: All right, that's a good start, Luke. Check out the

1634
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: latest in snow removal. I could see you doing this

1635
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 1: in your neighborhood and people just fearing you.

1636
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 3: Luke.

1637
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: This man with a blow torch out there on his driveway,

1638
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: just removing.

1639
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 3: I mean, how do you not love this man? I mean,

1640
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 3: what a fucking American hero this guy is? Yeah? Yeah,

1641
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 3: is that not the greatest shit you've ever seen?

1642
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,440
Speaker 1: Are you kidding that easy? I mean, that's just disappearing?

1643
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: Is it really that?

1644
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: Right? I know? That's well, that's it. First of all.

1645
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can clown it for being unorthodox, but

1646
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 3: it looks like it's work into me.

1647
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: All right, I'm in on it. Hey, there was actually

1648
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: fights on Saturday, if you want to call it that

1649
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: PBC on Fox. Luke from that weird studio in La

1650
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: and this was sad to see former boxing action star

1651
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: James Kirkland. Luke looks all kinds of Donzo. At age

1652
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: thirty six, he got dropped three times in the first

1653
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: round by Juan Masius Montiel and was finished in a TKO.

1654
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Luke. When it goes, it goes. But uh,

1655
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: do you remember the the wars that this man gave us?

1656
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong. Who viciously chaot him a

1657
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 3: few years ago? Was it Canelo?

1658
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: It was Canelo? Yes, And in credit to James Kirkland,

1659
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: they did in the in the Houston Astros Baseball Stadium.

1660
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: Kirkland came to fight like that's what that's why you

1661
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: sign up to fight him. He's gonna cut. I mean

1662
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: when he had Ann Wolf in his corner, it was

1663
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: musty TV Luke because she turned him into like a

1664
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: pit bull.

1665
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think he ever recovered from that.

1666
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took a bunch of years off too and

1667
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: was inactive. But this was just sad to see this

1668
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: this guy. And then this guy was doing like bolo punches.

1669
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: He was just falling around and he beat the p

1670
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: out of out of old James Kirkland. Sad to see,

1671
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 1: all right, Luke. In the main event, David Morrell Junior

1672
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: dropped Mike Govronsky with a three punch combo to n

1673
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: round one. Stopped in one nice little three piece right there, right, Yeah.

1674
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 3: That was good. You're kind of clowning this, but this

1675
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 3: is pretty good boxing. No, this was.

1676
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: This was an ish card, very very ish, but a

1677
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: nice little highlight we got out of it here.

1678
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: Oh man got a tattoo in the nineties. I see that?

1679
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes he did, all right, Luke, let's move on.

1680
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: AMC Fight Nights had their Winter Cup card in Rush

1681
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Do you see. We had a little

1682
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: trash talk back and forth, and then a CBS Strike

1683
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: Force Gus Jason brawl broke out, Luke, Guys, guys, we're

1684
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: on national television. What's going on here?

1685
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 3: Dude? That guy has a head like an anvil too,

1686
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 3: the one that's bald.

1687
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: Look at these bearded bros. Go at it? Yes, Jack

1688
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: Shields in the middle of that again. Wow, look at this.

1689
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: Look just chucking coffee, laptops, IQ of furniture letting it

1690
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 3: be Yes.

1691
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: Uh too bad that the one we're referencing seemed to

1692
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: kill MMA on CBS. Luke, maybe even killed Strikeforce but

1693
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 1: it was or was that a lead XC I'm all confused?

1694
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 3: Well, that that was the Nashville Strikeforce brawl.

1695
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: For sure, yes, yes, yes, all right, all right, thank

1696
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: you these crazy Russians for giving this to us this

1697
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: weekend and Rebaca Hitman for documenting it. Look at this, Luke,

1698
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: Look at Habib's friends are going after Connor.

1699
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 3: Look at this.

1700
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, look we're gonna go over to Okraa Gana.

1701
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: They had boxing this weekend. I don't know where we're

1702
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: at here, but check out forty year old Haruna O

1703
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: Somanu sending forty four year old Ibraheim Marshall to hell

1704
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: and then and then hitting them when he's.

1705
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: Luke, bro this guy was trying to I mean, what

1706
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 3: is this shit?

1707
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: And the crowd is going crazy inside this local gymnasium. Luke,

1708
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh it's over. The fight's over? Wow?

1709
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 3: Yes? Are they fighting over the rights for like the

1710
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 3: racquetball court? Like what are the stakes this about?

1711
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: Plenty of man boobs and good seats still available, Luke.

1712
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: But the people went sick on that. How do you

1713
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: not deque that guy? He landed a clean punch while

1714
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: the guy was on his back.

1715
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: That listen. The fact that he even had a referee

1716
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 3: in this contest was a minor miracle. You gotta let

1717
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 3: some shit slide. Yeah.

1718
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of guys have masks. So shout out

1719
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: to COVID nineteen eighty. By the way, shout out to

1720
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: doctor Fauci turned eighty the other day.

1721
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: Luke, you know what, he's not bad for eighty? Right?

1722
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 3: Is he gonna be in decent health?

1723
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: He got vaccinated on his birthday? Did you see that?

1724
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: Lucky guy? My dad's eighty. I'm hoping he gets vaccinated soon.

1725
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's relive this one more time.

1726
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: Look at this dirt move right here? Yeah, I get

1727
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: him one more time?

1728
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why not? All right?

1729
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: Hey, look we talked about that time that Dana White

1730
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: bitched out at why amiya jumping off the cliff right

1731
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: when Rachel Ostrovitch showed him up. You know who didn't

1732
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 1: bitch out? Check out this guy with balls, Luke?

1733
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 3: Do I hear somebody? Yeah?

1734
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 1: Is that is that all the smoke playing in the background?

1735
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 3: It is all the smoke? Yeah, that was just those guys.

1736
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 3: Yeah thing.

1737
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Luke, Luke, how freaking amazing is this? This guy

1738
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 1: ran out of his living room, leaped off a cliff

1739
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: head first, looked like he was gonna kill himself. I mean,

1740
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: are you kidding me.

1741
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 3: I can't believe he's white, Looke.

1742
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: This video is incredible, No.

1743
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 3: It is pretty Would you do this? Would you jump

1744
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 3: off this? And when I say this, I mean this

1745
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 3: particular cliff.

1746
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I would have done the Dana White thing.

1747
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: But this is ridiculous.

1748
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 3: Here's here's my question. It's a real one. At some

1749
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 3: point if you if you dive into the wall, it

1750
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 3: actually becomes quite dangerous because the water will the surface

1751
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 3: tension will actually kill you. It's almost like diving into cement.

1752
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 3: But you know, obviously if you're ten feet above, it won't.

1753
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 3: Twenty or thirty feet above it won't. I'm not sure

1754
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 3: what this is, one hundred feet or something, maybe more.

1755
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: If you don't hit this with your feet or your hands,

1756
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: and you and really make yourself a pencil, you're you're

1757
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: gonna break bones, Luke.

1758
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 3: Right now, you're gonna be in trouble. So how high

1759
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 3: is too high before you can do this? Because this

1760
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 3: guy looks like he's at the limit.

1761
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: BC, Well, I'm gonna ask how high is too high

1762
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: to have the balls to do this?

1763
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 3: Luke.

1764
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was doing before the camera

1765
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: turned on, but he he got a liquid jowl of energy.

1766
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: I mean that, look that looks like death. Right, that's insane.

1767
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: This is this is me running to the commode after

1768
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 3: one cup of coffee, right.

1769
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: The commode you have in the lifting station in your

1770
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:50,799
Speaker 1: front yard for all the neighbors.

1771
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 3: See. This is the guy with old balls going after

1772
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 3: BC to get a spot right here.

1773
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: Hey, look remember that great song by Aerosmith in the

1774
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: late adies called Loving and Elevator.

1775
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 3: Uh, yes, love it and Elevator.

1776
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: Well, check out this video. Remember that great line going down?

1777
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: No no no no no no no no no.

1778
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: Why this is going out here?

1779
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: Luke, God, it's all vani and shit too, so gross,

1780
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:21,919
Speaker 3: so gross.

1781
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: Hey, let's go back to m m A. We had

1782
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: an RX fight night card in Romania last week, Luke.

1783
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: Check out this instant Ko. We touched gloves and we

1784
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: got fat white guys and here we go. Let's do it.

1785
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: Bow. Oh my god, they're in a strip club too.

1786
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: Oh man. He did like the uh the statue of

1787
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: Jesus in Rio.

1788
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 3: That was incredible, Right, dude, Why is he rolling him

1789
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: onto his stomach like he's a COVID patient? What are

1790
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 3: they doing?

1791
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 1: I think they're just getting the stretcher ready for him.

1792
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: This is growl. Boh wow, that's your knock out of

1793
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 1: the week right there. Hey, let's check in on Hogy Farts.

1794
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: Hogy Farts getting us ready on Instagram for the holiday season. Luke,

1795
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: would you employ this tree at all in your in

1796
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: your office room?

1797
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm gonna send you this. I'm gonna send your

1798
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: wife this next Christmas.

1799
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, speaking of ball shots here, Luke, we

1800
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: got a trio of them. Check out this guy on

1801
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 1: the tackling dummy. This was a mistake. Old number forty

1802
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: nine is gonna regret this.

1803
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: It's like, bro, your intensity it's a little too much.

1804
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. I got him from behind, Luke.

1805
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,560
Speaker 1: It was like Ron Johnson ending Jay's music career in

1806
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: the backside there.

1807
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 3: Wow.

1808
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: All right, hey, let's go over to the gridiron. This

1809
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: Kentucky wide receiver makes a nice play, but then pays

1810
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 1: for it in the grind from the ut guy Bob oh, yes, please.

1811
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 3: You know what you stand over guys like that in

1812
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 3: a support where you're to do that. I have no sympathy. Yeah,

1813
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 3: get off me, Yeah exactly.

1814
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: He's milking it right here. You want to see somebody

1815
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: no sella groin strike. Check out the balls on this kid, Luke.

1816
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is, but he's gonna grow

1817
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: up to be something.

1818
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean this kid is losing his shoes.

1819
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, looks like Rush Holloway right there, right lining

1820
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: up on it.

1821
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 3: This is me, This is me dealing with You're like, hey, Luke,

1822
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 3: we could have had this gig. We could have had

1823
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: this gig where we made ten grand, but I had

1824
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: to fly to you know, California to go sit in

1825
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 3: COVID hotels for two weeks and we don't get any

1826
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 3: money from it. Oh thanks, b see great.

1827
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks a lot. I'll take that from you. Give

1828
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: me that. Give me that, all right, Luke, Let's toast

1829
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty the way you should with

1830
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: drunken girls at tequila. Luke, this was a fail?

1831
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is that it? She just spits it up.

1832
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry if that wasn't enough for you, Luke, Okay,

1833
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 1: that got me. Luke loves when we go to the gym.

1834
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the gym. Let's find a

1835
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: weird I think this guy's preparing just in case for prison, Luke.

1836
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: What is this exercise called?

1837
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,560
Speaker 3: He's stretching his neck, but he's doing it in the

1838
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 3: dumbest fucking way possible.

1839
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: Do you do this, Luke?

1840
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: Do you not like this?

1841
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 3: Now?

1842
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: Why would one stretch his neck?

1843
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 3: What are you?

1844
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 1: What are you preparing for? Uh?

1845
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 3: You could be doing neck exercises. He might have like

1846
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 3: tightness in his shoulder girdle, could be all kinds of reasons.

1847
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: But you don't do it with your butt in the air,

1848
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 3: grabbing your hamstrings on the balls of your feet, unless

1849
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 3: there's other kinds of balls in which you wish to greet.

1850
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: Unless you're with Jay out of New York bathhouse, you know,

1851
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: with his people.

1852
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 3: Now, this is how Jay gets warmed up for his bathhouses.

1853
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 1: All right? Hey, Luke, if if you had a stylist

1854
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: and became famous, not Mma famous, but real famous, one

1855
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: of our fans sent in a picture of what you

1856
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: would look like. Check this out, Luke, I wish right.

1857
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 3: I'm pretty far away from looking at I just look

1858
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 3: old and sad.

1859
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: This guy looks that's probably probably like if we took

1860
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: if we put you on some makeover show, that's probably

1861
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: the end product, Luke. That's prime forty one year old

1862
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas right there.

1863
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 3: That's right. If I had if I had people to

1864
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 3: make me look better than I look, you know who

1865
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 3: are professionals, I could maybe come out this good. But see,

1866
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 3: this is why I'm waiting for everything to go gray.

1867
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 3: B see, because I've still got brown here on my face.

1868
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 3: I'm just ready to just go. Greg, just I'm ready

1869
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 3: to just go. Greg.

1870
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: Does the carpet match the drapes?

1871
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: Luke, I'll say this, the gray does not discriminates.

1872
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: So cross, right, so gross? All right? Hey, Luke, you

1873
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: know you love gender reveals, right? Is it possible to

1874
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: get sick of stuff like this? I mean, check out

1875
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: this guy right well, he's having a son, Luke, But

1876
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: the lineage ends right there.

1877
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I'm sure if you have a gender

1878
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 3: reveal party at any point in your life, this is

1879
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 3: what you deserve. Fuck your life.

1880
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 1: Well, I love gender reveal fails. Let's move on to

1881
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: this family who has a braddy daughter. She gets in

1882
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: the way of what was a very good potential gender

1883
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: reveal opportunity. She can't pop the balloon. She's mad, she

1884
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: throws a fit. Oh yeah, throw that thing, somebody, let's

1885
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: go with the bloo this look, it's gone away. We'reever

1886
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: gonna know what they had?

1887
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 3: Good? Fuck this family?

1888
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: Look at mom? She has pissed off. Yes, fuck right,

1889
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: I got one more, Luke, I've never quite seen a

1890
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: gender reveal like this. This might be how the Thomases

1891
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: will do it for maybe number two?

1892
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 3: Right? Is this is this Japan? Where are we?

1893
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: It could be DC, could be could be No, this

1894
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: might be man, This might be Risen twenty six.

1895
01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 3: Luke.

1896
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: If this is what I'm gonna get ready for this weekend,

1897
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: I'll be into it. Okay, here come.

1898
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes? Oh I see so one has blue and

1899
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 3: one has pink and they're going to fight it out.

1900
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 3: I think so. I think dot A five thousand style.

1901
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Yes, first one to have a heart attack, loses and dies.

1902
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 3: Uh, where's the where's the guy with the flamethrower when

1903
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: you need it?

1904
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a winner for the man, Luke. We're having

1905
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: a boy, thank you very much.

1906
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 3: All right, here, we're having a boy who beats up

1907
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 3: on girls. That's what we're having. Yes, this is a

1908
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 3: terrible fucking gender reveal Greg Hardy's house.

1909
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, let's go over to let's give a

1910
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: shout out to this new sport. You ever hear a

1911
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: blindfold racing. There's a built in problem with it, Luke,

1912
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: But that problem is awesome.

1913
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 3: No, no, there's a built in solution.

1914
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh, Luke. Let's close with some tip touching, because that's

1915
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: what makes us on Brandon happy on this show. Check

1916
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: out this, uh these Well, first, we got a little

1917
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 1: mall bingo here. Sorry, I jumped the gun.

1918
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Here.

1919
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: This is how we do it in European malls.

1920
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 3: Look.

1921
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Look at this couple's routine.

1922
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 3: It's gonna be you and me in the front yard gym.

1923
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,520
Speaker 3: The question he does which party?

1924
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: Look at the quad strength out her to lift him

1925
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: up like that?

1926
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 3: Right, I would actually say the adductor strength is much

1927
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:24,919
Speaker 3: more impressive.

1928
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, check out the abductors on that one. Wow.

1929
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, this is a I could only watch

1930
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: this so many times. Look before I need to be alone.

1931
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's close with some some some tip touching here.

1932
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Check out these tape measure bros. Right, very creative, very creative.

1933
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: Okay, it's in Lucy.

1934
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Even Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter getting in on the party, right.

1935
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 3: Old mort Look at Old mort But they're not really

1936
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: touching tips. They're just pointing past each other there.

1937
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of friction there, right, yeah,

1938
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: all right, that's all I got. Look, maybe maybe this

1939
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: wasn't our best show. Okay, we tried though.

1940
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's the Monday after Christmas. Everyone else is off

1941
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 3: for the year. We're doing our best. People are getting

1942
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: free shadow.

1943
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, did you get fat this weekend?

1944
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 3: Luke? You got? Oh? Yeah, of course, of course who didn't?

1945
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: All right?

1946
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 1: For good, Luke? You drink anything good this weekend?

1947
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 3: A lot of Jim Beam.

1948
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 1: It's not good with diet cola, coke zero.

1949
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 3: Coke zero, uh BC odds and ends. What do you got?

1950
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: Uh?

1951
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 3: Luke?

1952
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 1: I wanted to give a shout out here sad news

1953
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 1: coming out of the pro wrestling world. I'm not watching

1954
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty like I was in previous years,

1955
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: But to find out that former WWE star Luke Harper,

1956
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: known as uh as Brodie Lee and AEW where he

1957
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: moved on to real name John Hubert, passed away seemingly

1958
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: out of nowhere at age forty one over the weekend,

1959
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 1: his wife revealing that it was non COVID like long

1960
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: related illness that he'd picked up and became fatal. And

1961
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure the medical details beyond that, But

1962
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 1: what is really touch me is since his death, the

1963
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: outpouring of love from wrestling stars, current past president and

1964
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: the stories they've shared really shows you that this guy

1965
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: was a salt of the earth gentleman, a family man,

1966
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: a guy who in these long road trips that they

1967
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,799
Speaker 1: had to go on and doing that grind that is WWE,

1968
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: was just a real brother to behold and he had

1969
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: a very special career. Look, he looks a lot like you.

1970
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 1: I mean, you're really you know, some beard die away

1971
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: from being this guy. Basically, what I love about this

1972
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 1: guy is for a big man, he could friggin work

1973
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,759
Speaker 1: and he put in the years, but didn't really figure

1974
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: out how great he can be until the tail enders

1975
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: his career. The late thirties, he gets revealed as part

1976
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: of the Wyatt family, with Bray Wyatt at the core.

1977
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: He had a nice little run there as a henchman.

1978
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: But just in twenty seventeen, as he started to show

1979
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: you there may be more to him. He might be

1980
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 1: able to be a leading man someday, he got caught

1981
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 1: in that political sphere in WWE got shelfed. They weren't

1982
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: using him, shot out to him getting to aw showing

1983
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: us just a brief little snippet over the past year

1984
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: of what he's really capable of and who maybe he

1985
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. He was a grinder, he put

1986
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 1: in the years under the radar, and to see him

1987
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: have his moments finally was touching because again, a guy

1988
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 1: that size, who could work like that understood the science

1989
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: of what this performance sport is. To see him go

1990
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: out of nowhere like this right when he was kind of,

1991
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, figuring out how Grady can be is certainly sad,

1992
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: but the outpouring of love across the board. Most of

1993
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: us again know him as Luke Harper, part of the

1994
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Wyatt family, a great performer, seemingly a great guy. I

1995
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't know him, I never interviewed him, but it was

1996
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 1: sad to see this pop into the news cycle out

1997
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 1: of nowhere when we're when we're used to Luke seeing

1998
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: guys die for you know, drug purposes or just being

1999
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: old age and wrestling. To see someone like this who

2000
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: just kind of is gone and had that much of

2001
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 1: an imprint left on the business, It was touching to

2002
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: see Luke. Were you a fan of all of the

2003
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Wyatt family upon their original reveal in WW.

2004
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 3: Luke, I certainly never of them. Did people know that

2005
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 3: this guy was sick?

2006
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I don't believe so at all.

2007
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 1: In fact, I would like to know more details about

2008
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: what really happened there. All I know is the Instagram

2009
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 1: post that his wife.

2010
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 3: Put out, so just out of nowhere, he's not wrestling,

2011
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 3: and then the next thing you know, he's dead.

2012
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it seems like there's something cryptic

2013
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: there or you know, deeper details. But she did make

2014
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: a point to say that it was non COVID related.

2015
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: He was only forty one, like I mentioned, and was

2016
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: really finally just figuring out what his character could be

2017
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 1: as Brodie Lee with aw but tough break.

2018
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 3: Luke Love, that's a shame. That's a shame. Well, I'm

2019
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 3: sorry to hear that. I'm also sorry to hear that.

2020
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 3: Vasili Lumachenko continues to be clown himself. He did an

2021
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 3: interview on I Think it was Ukrainian friend Alexander Usik's

2022
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 3: Fucking website where he accuses basically the judges of scoring

2023
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 3: his bout with Taeo Fim Lopez because there must have

2024
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 3: been bribery involved. BBC. How is it possible that Lumachenko

2025
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 3: went from one of the most beloved fighters in all

2026
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 3: of boxing to now borderline not quite there yet, but

2027
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: we're bordering on Deontay Wilder level of excuses for a

2028
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 3: fight that, like, yes, it was competitive, and certainly you

2029
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 3: would think that maybe he could do better in a rematch.

2030
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy, but that he pretty clearly

2031
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 3: lost in the end. What the fuck happened? Dude?

2032
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: This is shocking and really sad. And anyone who's like, man,

2033
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: you guys slayed Deontay Wilder, you should slay him the same.

2034
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: We should. I mean, he's not necessarily a Wilder level yet,

2035
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: but he's getting close. Not just the bribery. He's giving

2036
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 1: no credit to Lopez for the win. He's trying to

2037
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: claim that he beat Lopez. He's trying to claim that

2038
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: they had the perfect game fan for Lopez that they executed.

2039
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a bunch of just here's the thing.

2040
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: He was undefeated in the eyes of hardcore boxing fans. Luke,

2041
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 1: here was a guy who came from it maybe the

2042
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: most decorated amateur career of all time as a as

2043
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 1: a two time Olympic gold medalist, the only loss he

2044
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 1: had in amateurs like something like three hundred and one,

2045
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 1: The only loss he had won it back on two

2046
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: occasions to make sure that it was a mistake, right.

2047
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,839
Speaker 1: And although he lost his second fight against Orlando Solito,

2048
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: he never complained about the scoring in that fight, which

2049
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 1: I thought the judges screwed him. He never complained about

2050
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: Solido missing weight, and he never complained about Soledo bully

2051
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: hanging him and punching him into the balls about five

2052
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 1: hundred times and referee Lawrence Cole not doing anything about it.

2053
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Lomachenko took that loss in his second pro fight for

2054
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: a world title like a man, and he basically said,

2055
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 1: I got bullied. I need to learn the pro style.

2056
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 3: This is on me.

2057
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Ever since then, his Instagram's hilarious. He's ahead of the

2058
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 1: game on certain training techniques. We love Luke, We love

2059
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: this guy in boxing right for all the reasons you should.

2060
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: And then he deals with his first real loss in

2061
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ways and it's just like, dude, take

2062
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: the l You want to know why you lost that

2063
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: fight with Lopez, Well, look, I'm not going to take

2064
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: any credit away from Lopez. Lomachenko wasn't effective in the

2065
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 1: first half because Lopez didn't let him. But the reason

2066
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: why Lomachenko lost that fight was because he punted away

2067
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,600
Speaker 1: more than half of that fight by just trying to

2068
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:12,879
Speaker 1: figure waiting didn't do anything. Basically was waiting for Lopez

2069
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: to fail so that he can overcome. Now again, credit

2070
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: Lomachenko for rallying, but you can't complain after a performance

2071
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: like that. The reason why you lost ultimately is on

2072
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 1: you because the other guy across from you was better

2073
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: than you thought he would be. So any form of

2074
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: the judges and this and that, like, stop it. Do

2075
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: you know what you should do? Campaign to try to

2076
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: fight him again. You may not get it right. Lopez

2077
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: seems like he's past that. But what you should do

2078
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: is like, I screwed up. I'm the better fighter.

2079
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 3: I know it.

2080
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: Let's prove it in the rematch. If you can't get

2081
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: the rematch, shut the hell up and go on to

2082
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: the next big challenge. He deserves the same shade we

2083
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: threw out Deontay Wilder for just being like and I again.

2084
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: It's not the first time. Mike Tyson did it. After

2085
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 1: the Busher Douglas lost we have a history of great

2086
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: fighters who have done it. It doesn't mean it's not shameful.

2087
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: I know that part of it, Luke, and I've said

2088
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: it before is to keep their own ego strong, because

2089
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: fighters of any combat sport have to be the biggest

2090
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: liars and salesmen to themselves to get themselves as confident

2091
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 1: as they need to be to believe that they're gonna

2092
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: win these fights, regardless of anything, age, injury, anything, right,

2093
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 1: They've got to be personal salesmen. So you want to

2094
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: do this in private with your team and be like, man,

2095
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: you know whatever the judge is this and that that's fine.

2096
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: Don't do it in front of a microphone. It just

2097
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: makes you look like a loser. And I hate saying

2098
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: that because Limachenko again was undefeated in the court of

2099
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 1: public opinion. He was like a god to boxing fans

2100
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:44,440
Speaker 1: and to see him just come out here and just oh, man, redeem.

2101
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 3: It in the ring, brother dam So, I certainly agree

2102
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 3: with that. Now, you asked a question in the middle

2103
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 3: of the show that I thought was pertinent BC and

2104
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 3: important that we get to now as you lean in

2105
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 3: your chair to let gas pass, what about the rock

2106
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 3: There is a movie I think from nineteen ninety six

2107
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 3: Ed Harris, Sean Connery, Nicholas Cage, and others, where it's

2108
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 3: maybe one of the best Michael Bay movies, if not

2109
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 3: the best Michael Bay movie. I think that was the time.

2110
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 3: That was when he was working with Jerry Bruckheimer. One

2111
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 3: of the best Nicholas Cage movies ever, and you had

2112
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 3: not seen it. Normally, we would assign homework on a Monday,

2113
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 3: and then we'd review it on a Friday. Not sure

2114
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:26,600
Speaker 3: how to handle it this time because there's gonna be

2115
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 3: no Friday show. So there's two options, as I see it,

2116
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 3: or three really. One we could watch it and react

2117
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 3: to it on Wednesday. Two we could do a special

2118
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 3: episode and just put it up ahead of time for

2119
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 3: Friday that people could react to it on like whatever

2120
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 3: that day is. Or we want to.

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Speaker 1: Record on Thursday and record on Thursday. We react to it.

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Speaker 1: Look people like when we answer their questions when we

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01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: do these bonus holiday Q and A episodes, They like

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01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: the ridiculousness of that.

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Speaker 3: Since you have not seen it, and I've seen it

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Speaker 3: a thousand times and I do BC. This is gonna

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Speaker 3: be one of those movies that's gonna be like, like,

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Speaker 3: if we ever have a date together, it's gonna be

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01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 3: our date movie. Dude, this is gonna be that movie.

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01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 3: This is gonna be that movie that bonds us. I'm

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01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 3: telling you, I'm telling you, we are gonna like it

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01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 3: for many of different reasons. We're gonna like it for

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01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 3: any of the same reasons. You're gonna see after this

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01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 3: movie you and I are not so different. You're going

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Speaker 3: to friggin love it.

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Speaker 1: So the question is, look, can I watch it between

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Speaker 1: between now and Wednesday morning? Can I watch it? Probably,

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01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: but we can leave over the open the option Luke

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Speaker 1: of doing a quick recap show on Thursday that will

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Speaker 1: air on Friday on New Year's Day as a bonus

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Speaker 1: to our people.

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Speaker 3: We co Okay, I like that idea better. I like

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Speaker 3: recording a separate episode and uh then we'll just react

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Speaker 3: to it on Friday. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love that a lot. And here's the deal. I

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01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 1: don't know why I haven't seen this. It's just one

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01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 1: that slipped through the cracks. There's there's movies like Independence Day,

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01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 1: Men in Black I've never seen because I just didn't

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01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 1: interest me for whatever reason. I've never seen Field of Dreams.

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01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Luke the Rock just seemed to

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01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: slip through the cracks of one I missed. I saw

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Speaker 1: conn Air, I saw Sudden Death with Van Dam, I

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01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: saw a lot of the contemporary movies of that time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so much better than that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: here's my answer for why I wanted to see that.

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01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 3: At the time of when you came out, I was

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01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 3: thinking about what, you know, the career choices I wanted

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01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:15,879
Speaker 3: to make, and I really wanted to join the military

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01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 3: at the time. So I had that kind of fever, right.

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Speaker 3: And the other part was my parents were split up,

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01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 3: so I would live in the summers. I grew up

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01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 3: in DC, and then when my parents split, I moved

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Speaker 3: to my mom with my mom in Virginia and eventually

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Speaker 3: in Georgia, but in the summers I would come back

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Speaker 3: and I would live in d C. So I was

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01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 3: living in d C. And there was a movie theater

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Speaker 3: at Union Station at the time was an AMC theater,

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Speaker 3: and I remember this movie came out I had. I

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01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 3: was bored, shitless, I had nothing to do, so I

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Speaker 3: went and just saw it and my eyes were like

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01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 3: this the whole time. I think. I saw that movie

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 3: two times a week for the entirety of the summer

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Speaker 3: that I was there, and I owned a copy of

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01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 3: a physical copy. I own a digital copy. It's one

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01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 3: of my favorite silly, fun, awesome action movies. It's maybe

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01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 3: the best Nicholas Cage movie. Oh that's debatable because he

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Speaker 3: made Leave in Las Vegas and that was very serious.

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Speaker 3: But it's certainly one of his better ones. It's one

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01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 3: of Michael Bay's best action movies. Sean Connery kills it,

2181
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Speaker 3: Ed Harris kills it. You're gonna see all these other actors.

2182
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, this guy's in there, this

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01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 3: guy's in there. That girls tell me.

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Speaker 1: It's better than Face Off with Cage and Travol sass,

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Speaker 1: so much better.

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Speaker 3: Jacob, Jacob in here, listen. I like connorir, I like

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Speaker 3: conn Air.

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Speaker 2: I'm down one of my favorite it's actually one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite movies.

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Speaker 3: Conny are Okay, I'm down with all of these movies.

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01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:32,879
Speaker 3: But The Rock is something special.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like on Shawshank level. It's not quite I

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01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 2: mean more as more of a cult following, but from

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Speaker 2: that era. Yeah, it's okay. You got Sean Connery. I mean,

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01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 2: it's it's it's like the fact that you missed that

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Speaker 2: one is really bad.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen Brave Heart, Gladiator or three hundred. Should

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Speaker 1: I go on a run of all those?

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Speaker 3: Three hundred is? Three hundred is a movie for idiots? Uh?

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01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 3: Gladiator good but overrated, Brave Heart good.

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Speaker 1: Not great. You're saying Braveheart not great? They want to

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Speaker 1: Academy Award for Best Picture.

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01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of ship winds the Academy Award. I don't

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Speaker 3: give a Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But Mel Gibson did Mel Gibson things, and you know.

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01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't like that.

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01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 1: I saw it.

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01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 3: I think your people, No, he does not.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you believe world a world banking system?

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01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: Do you think Mel believes in that?

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01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 3: Uh?

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01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 2: You could probably get him to agree with a lot

2213
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 2: of the things that you actually believe in.

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01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 1: Well, I did say I believe in this stuff as

2215
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: much as I am open minded.

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01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 2: And by the way, you need to see Field of Dreams.

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01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 2: How did you miss that?

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01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look you can look. I've seen Better

2219
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: Off Dead forty nine thousand times. I never saw Field

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01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 1: the Dreams once.

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01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes that was the other one you put in that

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01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 2: in the with Field of dreams that you didn't see.

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01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 1: Uh, men in Black Independence Day?

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01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, men in Black you could skip Independence that. You

2225
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 2: also have to see Mgeddon sucked.

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01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I saw that in the theater.

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01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 3: Jay, Okay, that was lame.

2228
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 2: The Independence Day is better than arm again. It's funny.

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01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 2: It pulls at your heartstrings. They killed the aliens.

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01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to get Nobody talks about Booty Call.

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01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, different, different genre.

2232
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: But Tommy Davidson, Yeah, great movie.

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01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 3: All right, Well, what we're meandering here at this point,

2234
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 3: so I'll just say this. We'll record a special episode.

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01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 1: All right, that's the whole gimmick here.

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01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll put out a special episode for Friday where

2237
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 3: we react to The Rock. So if you've not seen

2238
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 3: The Rock again, not the professional wrestler, but the movie.

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01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 3: Nicholas Cage, Sean Connery, Ed Harris, just a fucking amazing

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01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 3: piece of action cinema, watch that. We'll all react to

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01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 3: it on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Look where are you at in The Mandalorian Season two?

2243
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm a quarter of the way through with my kids.

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01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: Did you finish it?

2245
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 3: I'm done? Yeah?

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01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:42,560
Speaker 1: It is it spectacular?

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01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 3: Like I hear?

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01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Should we be reviewing that one day? I mean, I'm

2249
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: fired up to get there.

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Speaker 3: You know, I have mixed feelings about it. I have

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01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 3: mixed feelings about it. I really like the Mandalorian season one.

2252
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 3: I liked most of season two. The problem is with

2253
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 3: with Star Wars. It's like, can you do and I'm

2254
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 3: being seriously for just a second, if you were in

2255
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 3: charge of the Star Wars cinema or the Star Wars

2256
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 3: universe and you could make a show, you would want

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01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 3: to make it some way that the movies kind of

2258
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 3: failed to deliver on, especially the last three obviously, right,

2259
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 3: So I feel like the Mandalorian gets all of that right, simple, clean,

2260
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 3: effective storytelling, not a lot of dialogue. It was very

2261
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 3: much removed from all of the Jedis and shit. And

2262
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 3: then in the end here it's like, can you make

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01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 3: a Star Wars program, movie, or TV show that doesn't

2264
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 3: involve fans service? I don't know the answer to that.

2265
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 3: I really wonder because to me it's like, did I

2266
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 3: enjoy it? Sure? But you know, I'm a little sick

2267
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 3: of the Jedies, to be quite honest with you. And

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01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 3: Mandalorians obviously they're they're related to the Jedis in the

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01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 3: sense of being their their nemesis. But you'll see it's

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01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 3: like it's not bad, it's good. It's really good. But

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01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 3: I was kind of hoping for a departure from all

2272
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 3: of that, and you don't quite get that.

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01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: So is that why you're trying to slay Christians in

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01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: real life?

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01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 3: Luke? I have nothing against Christians, but just don't think

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01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 3: they're special like they think they are.

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Speaker 1: All right, by the way, are you fired up? January first?

2278
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 1: Cobra Kai season three Netflix. Let's do this, okay.

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01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 3: I kind of fell off on Cobra Kai I love

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01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 3: season one. Season two got a little two teen drama

2281
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 3: for me, and so I stopped watching. But maybe I'll

2282
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 3: pick it back up.

2283
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,639
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that was meant to bring in the wives,

2284
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: bring in the kids. You know what I mean.

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01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 3: It's probably fair Jay, any last words before we fire you.

2286
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 2: Yes, Cobra Kai is amazing. I'm very excited.

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01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 3: All right. Well, there's the j Seal of Approval for

2288
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 3: whatever that is worth you that. If you want to

2289
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 3: try Showtime, which Cobra Kai is not airing on, but

2290
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 3: it's also just a wonderful network, you can go to

2291
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 3: Showtime dot Com. You can get a thirty day free trial.

2292
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 3: You like it, you can keep it. If not, go

2293
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 3: fuck yourself. You can go get some merch. You can

2294
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 3: go to store dot show dot com. It's a wonderful

2295
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,160
Speaker 3: place to get some merch, whether it's All the Smoke

2296
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 3: or as MK or anyplace else. We hope you'll like

2297
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 3: the video. We hope you subscribe. If you want to

2298
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 3: follow us on social media, you certainly can. We are everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Morning Combat is consistent in all the places there can

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01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 3: see us on instap and on Twitter. If you have

2301
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 3: emails for fans, submissions, dead, wrong, whatever, get it to

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Speaker 3: us Morningcombat at gmail dot com. That is the official

2303
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 3: email of the show, and that's it. Watch the Rock.

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01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 3: We will react to it later on in the week.

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01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: Should we have them send fan questions Q and A

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01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: questions for the Rock episode or no?

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01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 3: I think so? I think so. Anything they want to

2308
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 3: send related to the Rock, send it to us Morning

2309
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 3: Put the Gmail addressed back up for just a second.

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01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 3: J If you don't mind Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

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01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 3: Anything related to the Friday episode surrounding the movie called

2312
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 3: the Rock, send it there. That's where you want to go.

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01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 3: Let us know. Okay, all right, that is for everyone

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Speaker 3: at Malka and Showtime in CBS Sports that is Brian Campbell.

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01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas. Until next time, May all of your

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Speaker 3: gains be loyal, Yes,