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Speaker 1: Ruthie's Table for presented by Sky.

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Speaker 2: I think part of the reason I love cooking so

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Speaker 2: much is that I if I'm working on a book, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's years of pretty isolated work in which I'm not

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Speaker 2: getting a huge amount of day to day affirmation, and

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Speaker 2: I think there are times when you can. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm a relatively confident writer, but I but of course

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Speaker 2: for any of us, there are times when you sort

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Speaker 2: of you know, you don't know how much further it

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Speaker 2: is up the mountain, and you're just wondering what am

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Speaker 2: I doing here? Whereas you cook a meal. In my case,

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Speaker 2: it's like you cook a meal for your family or

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Speaker 2: your kids, or a friend who comes over, and there's

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Speaker 2: the sort of tangible satisfaction in the space of half

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Speaker 2: an hour. You can make something. It's the beginning, middle,

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Speaker 2: an end, and it can hopefully give somebody pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I always think about, you know, food is seduction as well.

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Speaker 1: Food is many things, but it's also the number of

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Speaker 1: people I've spoken to who actually thought about what they

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Speaker 1: would cook for their first date or their second day.

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Speaker 1: I have a friend who met this He met this

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Speaker 1: guy and he really liked him, and they made a

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Speaker 1: date to go out to dinner and to come up

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Speaker 1: for a drink first, and he said he cooked all

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Speaker 1: day in case the drink went well and they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to go out for dinner. And I just thought

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Speaker 1: that's you know, food is that way of also dreaming

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Speaker 1: or connecting or planning well.

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Speaker 2: And we I mean, we have that because we'll have

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Speaker 2: a dinner party sometimes on a Saturday night. And and

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Speaker 2: I do most of the cooking. She said, already again,

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Speaker 2: I do all the cooking.

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Speaker 1: We'll just call the next book is going to be

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Speaker 1: called the next book is going to be I do

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Speaker 1: all the cooking. Yeah, by discuss this book called exactly

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Speaker 1: London Forest, it would be quite when you said you'd cook.

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Speaker 1: Maybe should do a cookbook, Maybe.

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Speaker 2: That should be should be the next thing. Yeah, So

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Speaker 2: what I was going to say is I'll cook all

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Speaker 2: day for the people coming that night. And I would

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Speaker 2: almost be embarrassed to let them know how long I've

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Speaker 2: been working on what we're doing, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, because it yeah, exactly, I'm coming to dinner, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming on my next drive to London and with

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Speaker 1: some friends. And what would you when do you start

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Speaker 1: thinking about what you're going to cook for that dinner

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Speaker 1: or what do you want to do?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes spontaneously, we can just go to the farmer's market

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Speaker 2: that morning and get a nice piece of fish, and

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Speaker 2: I'll often do some kind of pasta as well, a

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Speaker 2: nice salady. But then occasionally you do things that just

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Speaker 2: require more time.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that sometimes if you cook more to

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Speaker 1: get ready, then you don't have to cook so much

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Speaker 1: while they're.

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Speaker 2: There and relax, which is what I always wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can enjoy this.

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Speaker 2: But we have a big kitchen now, and actually it's

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Speaker 2: nicer that everybody comes.

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Speaker 3: But we have a kitchen.

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Speaker 2: Everybody comes in and drink wine and things laid out.

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Speaker 2: And so because I'm sort of buzzing around, Yeah, do.

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Speaker 1: You mind cooking, whether other people watching you or I.

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Speaker 2: Don't mind at all. Yeah, it's a little you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm always kind of a little sweaty and discombobulated. But

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Speaker 2: but I think it all adds to the manic energy.

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Speaker 1: You know, when did you two meet? You meant did

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Speaker 1: you meet a Columbia.

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Speaker 2: Then just yeah, so we came here.

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Speaker 1: He did a lot of cooking, right, We cooked a lot.

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Speaker 3: Because frankly, he would cook up a big meal just

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Speaker 3: for himself, and I was like, I've never cooked like this.

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Speaker 3: Fancy Yeah, no, I I thought it was very strange.

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Speaker 3: He would like even if it was just he's still.

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Speaker 2: I still do Yeah, y cool.

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Speaker 1: Sure treat yourself, you know, just to bring up and again,

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Speaker 1: another guess is that David Beckham his idea of a

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Speaker 1: great night is to have the house to himself, Victoria's

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Speaker 1: going out, the kids aren't there, and to cook an

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Speaker 1: amazing meal for himself. And he will go and he'll

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Speaker 1: just think about it so carefully as if he was

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Speaker 1: entertaining seventy people instead of one. And he'll choose the wine,

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Speaker 1: he'll choose the dish, he'll choose the meat, he describes

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Speaker 1: it in great detail, and then I'll sit down with

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Speaker 1: the greatest pleasure and eat himself.

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Speaker 2: To me, the kind of solitary experience funny because as

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Speaker 2: much as food as a communal thing. This is another

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Speaker 2: conversation we have. Just Tina's traveling for work and she

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Speaker 2: has a long day. She'll go back to the hotel,

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Speaker 2: get room service and you know, and conk out. I

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Speaker 2: will find the best restaurant I can where they can

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Speaker 2: take me at the bar, and I will sit by

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Speaker 2: myself and get a glass of wine and have a meal,

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Speaker 2: and she thinks that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm always so intrigued by the people who sit here.

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Speaker 1: But you know, as you see that, and it's very

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Speaker 1: often as that some people read and that's whatever they

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Speaker 1: do is fine. But I'm always interested in this military

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Speaker 1: dynomy because I'm like you, I don't eat out alone.

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Speaker 2: You don't do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Even my husband died two years ago,

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Speaker 1: and people keep saying, what's it like cooking for one?

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Speaker 1: And it took me a long time to confess that

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've practically cooked a meal for myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just go out. I come here. You know, if

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Speaker 1: I with my kid, you have kids, and this is

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Speaker 1: a bit it's like being home. So everybody is different,

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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of But that's so cool. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try it. Yeah, I think I.

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Speaker 2: Remember when I was in college. It's funny. A friend

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Speaker 2: of mine turned me onto this. But when I was

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Speaker 2: in college, we would I would occasionally go to the

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Speaker 2: old Union squareout family in the original location and sit

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Speaker 2: by myself. It was the best burger in the city,

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Speaker 2: by myself at the bar glass of red wine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and every day, what time do you do it?

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Speaker 2: First thing?

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Speaker 1: Did you do it today?

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Speaker 3: Not yet?

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Speaker 2: I'm a little because I'm out of my time.

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Speaker 1: Really I cannot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see the troubles. I've done it. I've done it

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Speaker 2: since the very beginning. And every morning on signal I

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Speaker 2: share with these two, my two dearest friends. We always

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Speaker 2: scores and I'm the worst always, and it's a joke

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Speaker 2: for that, having.

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Speaker 1: A diversion of Somebody told me that there are too

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Speaker 1: many two's of threes are cheating.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know why you these guys have so

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Speaker 2: many twos and threes. Yeah, I think they cheat it out?

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Speaker 2: Can I tell them that you said they cheat? That's

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Speaker 2: a very very I might have to call them right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting with Ruthy Rogers, and she said, she said,

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Speaker 2: it is an improbable number of all the.

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Speaker 1: Things you can cheat. Why do you want to?

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Speaker 2: Why cheat your friends?

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Speaker 1: I did it last I do?

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Speaker 2: What's your start? What's your star wars?

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Speaker 1: I often do train and I sometimes do have I do.

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Speaker 1: If you do train and house, you've got all the fowls,

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Speaker 1: but you've also got the S and the R and

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Speaker 1: the T.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever tried audio that's mine?

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Speaker 1: Is that you like that?

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Speaker 2: Get a bunch of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of like the consonants. But also what

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Speaker 1: I also do is I think if the word you

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Speaker 1: know that, I think we should find her. There's a

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Speaker 1: woman called Tracy who says them, do you know that?

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Speaker 1: By the beginning, But I do it with my friend

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Speaker 1: Noah Brumba, and so we have this theory that Tracy

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Speaker 1: lives in New York and she does this, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: she's in a really bad mood.

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Speaker 2: She makes him like a real person. She's not just at.

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Speaker 1: The first page word or where they say number or

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Speaker 1: whatever word it's set by Tracy.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I just say, don't you feel I'm really mad at

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Speaker 1: Tracy today? I'm going to definitely not invite her. She

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Speaker 1: doesn't get a table at the River Cafe.

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Speaker 2: That's what I feel, as though there's a kind of

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Speaker 2: I guess, given my sort of pension for stories about criminality,

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Speaker 2: I would go here. But I'm not wondering if there's

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Speaker 2: some insider trading scheme.

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