WEBVTT - Pray For Them: Buddhists Monks Behaving Badly

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Ern So nice to see you, So good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a question for you, sir. And that bright

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<v Speaker 3>eyes and bushy tail smile. Do you know it's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>I do know it's ridiculous. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how people who've been drinking smell like alcohol, Yeah, totally,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes it's coming out of their pores.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, especially the next day. I have friends who definitely

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<v Speaker 3>smell like bar rags.

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<v Speaker 4>And like, if you get pulled over, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not just the police will look at how you're driving,

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<v Speaker 4>is maybe an indication that you've been drinking, but they'll sniff.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh yeah, they definitely smell their smell the alcohol

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<v Speaker 3>I've been drinking today, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, so we got a problem here with this

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<v Speaker 4>is a mashup, and so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Take I'm taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting with Cores.

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<v Speaker 3>God, and.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you not want to have it.

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<v Speaker 4>Mixed with course course your mouth deodorant? What deodorant? So

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<v Speaker 4>they've teamed up. Cores has teamed up with this company,

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<v Speaker 4>Dura Chill, which is like a deodorant company, and they've

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<v Speaker 4>made this like Dura Chill Cours deodorant's supposed to smell

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<v Speaker 4>like the breeze of the Rocky mountains. It has to

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<v Speaker 4>be refrigerated before it can be properly.

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<v Speaker 3>Applied because it's the coldest beer.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know how like the packaging on the cours

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<v Speaker 4>the mountain changes colorue, Well, that same thing happens with

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<v Speaker 4>the deodorant. Okay, cores Light is all about helping people,

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<v Speaker 4>quote choose chill this summer. We wanted to take that

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<v Speaker 4>to the next level, starting with your armpits. We can

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<v Speaker 4>blame Marcello pascoa vice president of marketing at cors Light,

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<v Speaker 4>in a press release. There, whether you're sweating through a

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<v Speaker 4>heat wave or just trying to stay chill watching a

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<v Speaker 4>Leagues Cup match, Dura Chill is like giving your underarms

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<v Speaker 4>their own ice cold beer.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a competition we don't know about where these

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<v Speaker 3>companies try to come up with the craziest mashup.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the people like us talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the people like us talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>We got tipped off by I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 4>Charmie or Charmie Cajun on Instagram, right, you know, but

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<v Speaker 4>the Cajun told us about this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is horrendous way to get me rage and care. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we got back to.

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<v Speaker 4>The point I'm looking at this, and I got back

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<v Speaker 4>to like, I don't think I want to do these anymore, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, Lord, I do not ask for much.

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<v Speaker 2>Takes the wind out of me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you, I've given myself a break, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I come back and I'm just like end of

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<v Speaker 4>the Empire stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take it.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, I'm glad I could share my pain course deodorant,

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<v Speaker 4>Corse deodorant. It's also it's limited, of course, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen ninety nine, limited to tu per household, not subject

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<v Speaker 4>at discounts, and intended for those over the age of

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's no beer in it.

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<v Speaker 3>You've done a lot of these mashups over the years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never heard one that I was like, that's actually

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of a good No. They're always like one

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<v Speaker 3>like mad lips, like, all right, name a product, dealt Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna combine that with name another product. Wow, Well

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you that. It is ridiculous, Yes it is, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 3>I got something for you it's straight up ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>Truly deep levels of ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it is it cold armpit ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>Not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a better kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, if I say to you a couple of words

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<v Speaker 3>like Wu Tang and Shao l in abbots and monks,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I mentioned crime, right, you may think of

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<v Speaker 3>the rappers or the Wu Tang class specifically for the children. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like old dirty bastards mini run ins with the law.

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<v Speaker 3>In that case, you'd be wrong. Oh why is that

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<v Speaker 3>great question? Elizabeth? The reason it's simple, Real Buddhist monks

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<v Speaker 3>keep popping off with legit, wild ass crimes, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a compendium for you today.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 5>heights and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 5>and what one hundred percent ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, first things first, Yeah, let's comeiver any confusion that

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<v Speaker 3>I may have started you off with between Wu Tang

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<v Speaker 3>and Wu Tang clan. Now, if I say Wu Tang,

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<v Speaker 3>that refers to a holy mountain located in the Hubei

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<v Speaker 3>Province in central China. It's also known as Wu Tang,

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<v Speaker 3>which is home to the Daoist and Zen Buddhist traditions.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also where the birthplace of Kung Fu. The Wu

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<v Speaker 3>Tang it refers to the Purple imperial city of Emperor

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<v Speaker 3>yong li Ming, dating back to the fifteenth century. It

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<v Speaker 3>was constructive between fourteen oh four and fourteen twenty. Now

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<v Speaker 3>if I say, w Wu Tang clan that was formed

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<v Speaker 3>in the late eighties early nineties in Staten Island, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a rap group, right, They were formed

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<v Speaker 3>circa nineteen ninety one. Yeah, the Wu Tang Clan features

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<v Speaker 3>some of the finest lyricists in the history of hip hop. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>there's the Rizza, the Jizza, Old Dirty Bastard, Inspected Deck,

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<v Speaker 3>method Man, ghost Face Killer, Ray Kwan, the Chef, You

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<v Speaker 3>God and Mastakilla. So Wu Tang Clan, bunch of sick

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<v Speaker 3>ass rappers from Staten Island. Yeah, Wu Tang Holy Mountain

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<v Speaker 3>in China. You got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Got it?

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<v Speaker 3>Good? Now let's get down to the nitty gritty and

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<v Speaker 3>the sorry state of criminal Buddhists in Wu Tang and elsewhere. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if you follow international news like I do, you easily

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<v Speaker 3>see that these days Wu Tang and Shallin and crime

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<v Speaker 3>have become this ongoing news story. It is real a

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<v Speaker 3>steel because real life Buddhist monks are on some real

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<v Speaker 3>crime energy these days. It's truly wild. Like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>wait again, Like sometimes I think the story has already

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<v Speaker 3>been reported. I was like, no, this is a different

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<v Speaker 3>version of the same story. They're making Wu Tang clan

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<v Speaker 3>look like a bunch of kiddy cats, is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>For instance, we'll start with case one. It's called the

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<v Speaker 3>Sika golf sex scandal. Oh have you heard about this?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, this first story takes place in Thailand, not

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<v Speaker 3>in Wu Tang And obviously, Thailand is a nation in

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<v Speaker 3>South South Asia, and it's a nation where ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the populace are Buddhists. I did not know that

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<v Speaker 3>it's a really high percentage. Now. Earlier this year, just

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<v Speaker 3>before the start of the Asala Bukhah Day, which is

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<v Speaker 3>nicknamed basically Buddhist Lent. Asala Buka Day is a holy

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<v Speaker 3>day meant to commemorate the first sermon of the Lord Buddha.

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<v Speaker 3>It also marks the beginning of the brotherhood of Buddhist monks.

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<v Speaker 3>And I learned a lot about Buddhism, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to share it with you. There's coming called the

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<v Speaker 3>three gems. Now there's the Buddha, and then Dama or

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<v Speaker 3>what was what we call it dharma, and then the Sanga. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>dama or dharma is a Sanskrit word that refers to

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<v Speaker 3>the law of nature or quote, the truth of life. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the law of nature is simple enough. It determines that quote,

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<v Speaker 3>all beings face death, illness, and old age while life

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<v Speaker 3>is suffering kind of thing. Now, the sanga is a

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<v Speaker 3>word that refers to the monks and the nuns who

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<v Speaker 3>practice Buddhism, and then obviously the Buddhas, the Buddha. So

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<v Speaker 3>these are the three gems of Buddhism. They form like

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<v Speaker 3>a trinity, if you will. The Buddha, the Dharma, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Sanga. Got it, got it okay? So today we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be focusing on the sanga, the specifically the monk side

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<v Speaker 3>of things, because I didn't find a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>nuns doing crime. Surprise, surprise. So back to the news

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<v Speaker 3>that I'd mentioned earlier this year, Elizabeth, the sanga is

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<v Speaker 3>a shaking because of this major sex scandal that came

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<v Speaker 3>to lights the Sika Golf scandal burst onto the scene

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<v Speaker 3>with this woman nicknamed Sika Golf was arrested for sex

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<v Speaker 3>stortion of multiple high ranking Buddhist monks.

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<v Speaker 2>See when you said.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the golf scan, I thought it was like

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<v Speaker 4>a golf club, like a posh resort where they all

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<v Speaker 4>played golf.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish it was that simple. It's more of a nickname.

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<v Speaker 3>But here Sika it means devotee of a monk okay right,

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<v Speaker 3>and golf is like her street name.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>So just like these club there, you know. Now, just

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<v Speaker 3>like Catholic priests, Buddhist monks are also supposed to maintain

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<v Speaker 3>a vow of celibacy chastity, but there's a treasure trove

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<v Speaker 3>of evidence that they often don't, And in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>it was found in this one woman's cell phone. So

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<v Speaker 3>police found some eighty thousand photos, videos, and chat logs

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<v Speaker 3>that made it self evident these Buddhist monks had been

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<v Speaker 3>not taking their vows very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighty thousands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm talking like a boatload of Buddhist monks

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<v Speaker 3>that she was hitting. There were fifteen different temples that

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<v Speaker 3>were embarrassed by this scandal. Oh, it went all the

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<v Speaker 3>way to the top echelon. Yeah, not that matter. It

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<v Speaker 3>was focused more on Tai Buddhism. For instance, there was

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<v Speaker 3>evidence that implicated the abbot of the pra Buddha Chai Temple,

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<v Speaker 3>the deputy abbot of the Wattsthearn Temple, and the deputy

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<v Speaker 3>abbot of the paknam Psi Chaaron Temple. So that's basically

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<v Speaker 3>like the abbot runs the temper. So each one of

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<v Speaker 3>them is these powerful, wealthy, deeply respected and review temple.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was very embarrassing. Yeah, and all told, there

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<v Speaker 3>were nine abbots, that's the leaders of the temples who

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<v Speaker 3>were implicated in this sex scandal. So what's the story.

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<v Speaker 3>How did this all come about? And then how did

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<v Speaker 3>it just pop into the being? Everyone's like, oh, fully

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<v Speaker 3>formed sex scandal?

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<v Speaker 4>But were there like eighty thousand items like videos or

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<v Speaker 4>videos and photos and they're nice, so they're under just

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<v Speaker 4>under like ten thousand photos apiece. Oh yeah, however much

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<v Speaker 4>I can't do math, but I'm rounding down the eight

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<v Speaker 4>of them.

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<v Speaker 3>She got a lot. Oh, it's a ton. She she

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<v Speaker 3>was a documentarian, sounds like it. So it all started

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<v Speaker 3>when this high ranking abbot abruptly left his temple and

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<v Speaker 3>the monk hould that he led, and that was suspicious,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it triggered an investigation by the Central Investigation Bureau,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like the Taie version of the FBI. So

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<v Speaker 3>the lead investigators they get assigned to this case and

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<v Speaker 3>they go out and they discover the reason why he

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly and abruptly left the temple. Turns out, this sixty

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<v Speaker 3>seven year old app it was being blackmailed by a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five year old woman named Willowan Golf mswat.

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<v Speaker 2>Right golf Golf is her.

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<v Speaker 3>Nickname, so Willowan mswat Aka Golf. Now, not only that

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<v Speaker 3>she was also pregnant.

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<v Speaker 4>She probably drove a VW golf That would be hilarious, right,

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<v Speaker 4>she's a name for her car. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>When she informed the abbot that she was with child,

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<v Speaker 3>she demanded he pay her some big money to keep

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<v Speaker 3>quiet about it because it would be embarrassing to Buddhism,

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<v Speaker 3>his temple, ham everything. So she's like, you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay from a love child son now. According

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<v Speaker 3>to the Bangkok Coast, this now former abbot transferred thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>million tie Bot to Sika Golf as hush money slash

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<v Speaker 3>childcare funds okay, and that I know you're curious about this.

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<v Speaker 3>That works out to be three hundred and ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight nine dollars. He's just sitting on that money.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we'll get to whose money that is. So the

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<v Speaker 3>investigators they take a trip out to the temple to

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<v Speaker 3>question the abbot, and they learn he's already bounced out,

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<v Speaker 3>like he's gone, man, you ain't gonna find him here.

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<v Speaker 3>So they locate him and then he's like, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be happy to help with his case. Maybe you can

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<v Speaker 3>get me justice. Yeah, get to you justice. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you mean? So this is the first crack in the

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<v Speaker 3>sex scandal all told, The investigators determined that this now

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<v Speaker 3>former abbot had transferred about twelve point eight million bot

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<v Speaker 3>from his personal bank accounts and an additional three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty thousand bought from the temple's bank accounts. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he transferred the cash through mobile banking apps between January

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<v Speaker 3>and July of twenty twenty four. The investigators learned that

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<v Speaker 3>initially Sika Golf approached the now former abbot by posing

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<v Speaker 3>as this wealthy socialite. She just bounces around in circles,

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<v Speaker 3>hangs out with the abbots, and she claimed to be

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<v Speaker 3>connected to other powerful and illustrious abbots from other temples

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<v Speaker 3>that he knew. So once she earns his trust by going, oh,

0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I was hanging out with you, folks, the pair began

0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.720
<v Speaker 3>this relationship which eventually turned intimate and then it turned

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<v Speaker 3>into baby making. Now, the monk claimed he sent the

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<v Speaker 3>money to Sika Golf for a ceramics business.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Sums of money he'd transferred, he had no written receipts

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<v Speaker 3>or business agreement for this.

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<v Speaker 2>So much in his personal accounts. He'd been skimming already.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at one would suspect, We'll just say allegedly. So

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<v Speaker 3>the now former abbot said he'd contacted another former abbot,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the Watt Tree thoughts to Tep Monastery. He

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<v Speaker 3>was a fellow temple leader and he'd already fled the

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<v Speaker 3>country to Laos after he was a target for a

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<v Speaker 3>corruption probe of his own.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>That led the former abbot to pra Paron that's the

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<v Speaker 3>original dude, to try to get back the funds from

0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Sicco Golf. He's like, oh, wow, you're shady. So he

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<v Speaker 3>contacts her via DMS on social media. Of course, she

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<v Speaker 3>ghosts him. So when he couldn't get the temple's money

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<v Speaker 3>back that he'd transferred to her, and then left a

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<v Speaker 3>paper trail and a huge hole in the temple's finances.

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<v Speaker 3>It gets discovered by others, he gets kicked out of

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<v Speaker 3>the monastery, so then the investigators they start to get

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<v Speaker 3>a handle on his portion of the story. But this

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<v Speaker 3>leads to other high ranking and powerful monks because he's

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<v Speaker 3>remember like, oh, yeah, she told me he hung out

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<v Speaker 3>with this guy and this abbot. So they go around,

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<v Speaker 3>they start asking questions, and then this all leads to

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<v Speaker 3>the arrest of Sika Golf. She gets caught at her house,

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<v Speaker 3>and this house is in this luxurious housing estate r

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<v Speaker 3>she's living large. When she gets busted, the investigators discover

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<v Speaker 3>evidence that confirms the now former abbot story that he

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<v Speaker 3>transferred the three hundred and eighty thousand bought from his

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<v Speaker 3>temple that was in February of twenty twenty four, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the authorities they start questioning Sika Golf and she

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<v Speaker 3>admits that she knew the money was from the temple's

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<v Speaker 3>bank accounts, but that's the former abbot's problem, not hers.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't say take it from the temple. She just

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<v Speaker 3>said run me my check. So yeah, so she doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>So the police authorities are like, well, that's kind of callous.

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<v Speaker 3>So she then tells the investigators, Oh, that's just the

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<v Speaker 3>tip of this little dirty iceberg. Because she also says

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<v Speaker 3>I had sex with at least nine high ranking abbots

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<v Speaker 3>and other Buddhist monks. They're like, do you have names? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I remind you they swore vows of chastity salada forbidden

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<v Speaker 3>from having sex. So just that alone would be you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting kicked out of Buddhasm, right, and that's why they,

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<v Speaker 3>to keep their secrets safe, had been paying her. All

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<v Speaker 3>in all, she had blackmailed the monks and the abbots

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<v Speaker 3>to the tune of roughly eleven point nine million dollars US.

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<v Speaker 3>What that's a period over three years. Wow, she was

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<v Speaker 3>just going through abbot after abbot after abbot and just

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<v Speaker 3>run in checks.

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<v Speaker 2>None of these people believe in karma.

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<v Speaker 3>One would think it's kind of their bag. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So what did she do with all this money? I

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<v Speaker 3>mean other than her having like the nice house and

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<v Speaker 3>like her her VW golf? What is she doing with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool ceramics business?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course? Well, apparently investigators learned that Sika Golf had

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<v Speaker 3>been spending the money on online gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you know, that's the devil's work.

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<v Speaker 3>And she was not good at online gambling because nearly

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<v Speaker 3>all of the money, all twelve or eleven point nine million,

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<v Speaker 3>was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, some people, you would hope if they're running

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<v Speaker 3>like through eleven point nine million, they'd win some when

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<v Speaker 3>they get to her, Like she was betting, Like her

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<v Speaker 3>biggest single bet was a five hundred thousand BOT, which

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<v Speaker 3>is about fifteen grand in US, So she was putting

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<v Speaker 3>down big bets. So when the investigators catch up to

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<v Speaker 3>her and they like go through her bank accounts, they

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<v Speaker 3>find that there is eight thousand BOT left in her

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<v Speaker 3>bank account, which works out to be two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>forty four dollars America. Out of eleven point nine all

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<v Speaker 3>she has left is two hundred and forty four dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if she was playing something that she heard

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<v Speaker 4>an ad about during a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not really a casino.

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<v Speaker 3>It took a fake casino. She doesn't understand. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>she runs through this twelve million dollars in three years.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole kit and kaboodle was gone, right, So that's

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<v Speaker 3>probably why she was blackmailing her latest ABBT for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>child support payments. Yeah, she asked him. She said she

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<v Speaker 3>wanted thirty thousand bought every month for the next twenty years. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that may sound like a lot of money. That's actually

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<v Speaker 3>nine hundred and sixteen dollars a month. Yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>or eleven thousand dollars a year eas. So that's really

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<v Speaker 3>not a big score. So she'd have to get up

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<v Speaker 3>with another apple.

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<v Speaker 2>She's, yeah, exactly, she's gonna have a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>scores they add up, you get ten. Those dudes totally

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<v Speaker 2>keep a couple on a line rand a month.

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<v Speaker 3>So when the investigators first visit Seeker Golf's home and

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<v Speaker 3>they're investigating that first abbot sudden dismissal, that's where they

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<v Speaker 3>find all the evidence of all how she's been blackmailing

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<v Speaker 3>all of these monks. So the investigators find on five

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<v Speaker 3>different cell phones the eighty thousand pictures, the videos, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're all with different very powerful monks. Okay, so Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 3>just to put that into perspective, eighty thousand pictures in videos.

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<v Speaker 3>You know me, you're an inbox zero person. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>am not I have form like years, like more than

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<v Speaker 3>a decade of emails is one hundred and seventy thousand

0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.080
<v Speaker 3>unread emails. She's got eighty thousand picks just in three

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<v Speaker 3>years time.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about the number of pictures that we have in

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<v Speaker 4>our phones in the iCloud, I think I eighty. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't, And all I do is take pictures of

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<v Speaker 4>dogs and tomato plants and the bread click.

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<v Speaker 2>Click click click.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was she was going off.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So of the nine different abbits.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I take a lot of pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh totally, But I don't think you're anywhere near eighty thousans.

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<v Speaker 3>So of the nine different abbits in monks that she'd

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<v Speaker 3>sexed up and blackmailed, eight of them had been now

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<v Speaker 3>been kicked out, and they have left her straight up

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<v Speaker 3>fled their temples and monasteries. So far as he could,

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<v Speaker 3>Golf has largely avoided making any public statements about her

0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.600
<v Speaker 3>sex stortion ring. Yeah, which, honestly, I don't blame her,

0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, like because honestly, in the tie press, she's

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<v Speaker 3>the one who's getting blamed for the abbots and the

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<v Speaker 3>monk's bad behavior. She's the one everyone's focusing on. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to defend the blackmailer, but I'm saying,

0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.359
<v Speaker 3>is that in this case, you know, it takes two

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<v Speaker 3>to tango or to break one's chastity valuce. Sure, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>a walking honey trap.

0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but she's she's not like this, you know, magical seductress.

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<v Speaker 4>But she is a criminal, she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, And they're doing crimes with other people's money, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone's like, well, just look past that and focus

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<v Speaker 3>on her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, before she was formally arrested, she did deny the

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<v Speaker 3>charges against her, and then she admitted she had an

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<v Speaker 3>intimate relationship with one monk and he gave her money.

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<v Speaker 3>And then her story soon grew and she's like, okay,

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.359
<v Speaker 3>there may have been like two or three monks. Okay,

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.280
<v Speaker 3>there's this also, this professor or a religious professor. They're like,

0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 3>what were you getting? She's like, well, there was that

0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.680
<v Speaker 3>brand new Mercedes SLK two hundred they got me what

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<v Speaker 3>So they were getting her things that weren't just cash.

0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 3>She was getting gifts, you know, I'm thinking maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>house payments. Anyway, I agree with there's this Thai op

0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 3>ed writer Sonnet suda Ekachai. She wrote in the Bangkok

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<v Speaker 3>Post that quote, when the clergy's moral decay is in

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<v Speaker 3>full view, it's the woman who takes the fall, while

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<v Speaker 3>the monks are cast as victims. She also later added

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<v Speaker 3>about the abbots and monks, they live in privilege, surrounded

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<v Speaker 3>by wealth and deference. And that's kind of the problem

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<v Speaker 3>because if you go back to the beginning, the Buddha

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<v Speaker 3>was a wealthy prince. He renounced and walked away from

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<v Speaker 3>his life of privilege and had fantastical wealth for a

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<v Speaker 3>life of devotion and you know, quiet contemplation, and he

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<v Speaker 3>expressly forbade his followers from these types of earth temptations.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no equivocation on this. He's like, avoid money and lust.

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<v Speaker 3>These are the big ones.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, I believe I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And they're like, well he didn't really mean it,

0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Like no, he specifically said this one.

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<v Speaker 2>They went back for seconds on both.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they doubled it for one hundred percent for real. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>One abbot I found, who reported that a large fortune

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.960
<v Speaker 3>of gold had been stolen from him, joked with reporters

0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.320
<v Speaker 3>about his unbelievable wealth and said, quote, I get ten

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<v Speaker 3>thousand bought per invitation five ceremonies. That's fifty thousand bought.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you give me that I only socialize with the rich.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mix with the krajuk nuguck nogoi people, which

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<v Speaker 3>means poor people.

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<v Speaker 2>What what?

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<v Speaker 3>This is why I'm not castigating Sika Golf. She went

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<v Speaker 3>after these guys because you got a bunch of corrupt

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 3>monks in abbits. She's like, well, I'm gonna get my

0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.760
<v Speaker 3>taste too, right, right. So, the one bit of good

0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.920
<v Speaker 3>news is the Thai police have opened a phone line

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<v Speaker 3>up to report any quote misbehaving monks. Yeah, so, I

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<v Speaker 3>suspect and expect that this is just the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the stories of the bad monks acting badly. Let's take

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 3>a little break and we'll be back with more Buddhist

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 3>monks attcking badly. And we'll also dip over to China

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.199
<v Speaker 3>and visit the home of Kung Fu Zen Buddhism and

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<v Speaker 3>check in on their inspiration for the Wu Tang clan

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<v Speaker 3>back in too.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah too, Elizabeth, We're back, Yes, we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I've got another question for you. Uh huh, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you know about Shaolin?

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<v Speaker 4>I have a friend who does like that shaolin like

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.520
<v Speaker 4>martial arts stuff like kung fu. No, you know how

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 4>like they balance out and kick.

0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And spin around. Sure, I think he was trained by

0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:57.439
<v Speaker 2>shaolin monks.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, cool. I'm suspecting he as a form of kung

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<v Speaker 3>fu or I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But he's a musician and when he's warming.

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<v Speaker 3>Up maybe Taoism, not that, but the tai chi No.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not taichi. It's before he gets on stage. She

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:13.120
<v Speaker 4>does this like whole routine. It's pretty cool to work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool. Yeah, I should have been.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the same one that the monks do, okay with

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<v Speaker 4>like sticks kicking.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing that's gongo, but yeah, who knows. Going back

0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.919
<v Speaker 3>to Shaolin and earlier I said that, uh you know

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<v Speaker 3>Shaolin is also Staten Island. Yeah, you remember talking about

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.359
<v Speaker 3>the Wu Tang Clan. On their first album, Enter the

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.200
<v Speaker 3>thirty six Chambers, all nine mcs of the Wu Tang

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.879
<v Speaker 3>Clan rhymed about how their home on Strong Island aka

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<v Speaker 3>Staten Island was their spiritual chaolin right, and this was

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 3>intended to connect them to the ways of kung fu.

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<v Speaker 3>Films the seventies and the early eighties and the Shaolin

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<v Speaker 3>Temple and of Central China and his long story traditions

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<v Speaker 3>of Zen Buddhism in the kung fu masters. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So keep that in mind, that inspiration that they hold

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 3>and revere and like are inspired by. That's where this

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<v Speaker 3>next story takes place. And just keep the Wu Tang

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<v Speaker 3>and all their reverence for that in mind and measure

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<v Speaker 3>it on the scales of justice against what I'm about

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you of the actual real deal Shaolin Temple

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.919
<v Speaker 3>Boom to three thousand monks and the Central Theater for

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.680
<v Speaker 3>their next crimetale. Now, Elizabeth, I'd like you to meet

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 3>the abbot Shi yong Xin. This cat is no stranger

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<v Speaker 3>to controversy. In the late eighties, he was kicked out

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 3>of the Shaolin Temple by his own master. You're alleged

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<v Speaker 3>bad behavior, but somehow over time he managed to finesse

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 3>his way back in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you talked to him into putting out a calendar

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.600
<v Speaker 4>of like bad boys of Sin pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>You have no idea how close you are. No, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So I think like his master may have passed away

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 3>and he was able to get back in, because eventually

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.679
<v Speaker 3>he became the self dubbed quote CEO of the Shaolin Temple.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, that's what he calls himself. So that is the

0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 2>worst buddhen right.

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<v Speaker 3>That is up until this year, when allegations on Chinese

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 3>social media unseated him from his throne of power. He

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 3>now stands accused of being a womanizer, a father of

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<v Speaker 3>multiple illegitimate children, an embezzler of mad money from the

0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Shaowin Temple. Now his main accuser who took the Chinese

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 3>social media. They call themselves she Jiangxi, which means interpreting justice.

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.439
<v Speaker 3>And once again I would like to apologize her if

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I getting these names wrong in terms of my pronunciation.

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I looked up how to say them, but I still

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 3>may not get them exactly correct, So please be generous

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 3>with me. So interpreting justice she Jiangxi is a fitting

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.160
<v Speaker 3>self applied nickname because he's taking on the most high

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 3>of the temple and is literally trying to interpret justice.

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Now old interpreting justice, he came with the receipts when

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 3>he posted. He posted photos of one of the women

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 3>who hit the disgraced child and master had been sleeping with.

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 3>He posted pictures of their love child. He posted the

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 3>birth certificate. I mean he had receipts.

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So now this is not the CEO of Shaolin's

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 3>first brush with infamy, not only in the eighties when

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 3>he first got kicked out, but before that allegedly. You know,

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 3>he'd been the recipient of all kinds of ill god

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 3>in gifts over the years, such as luxury cars. One

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 3>town gave him a twenty five thousand dollars like gilded robe.

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 3>There has always been these rumors of women and mistresses

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 3>from local women, also professional sex workers. I mean, he's

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 3>dipping his wick everywhere and all this made headlines dating back,

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 3>as I said, to the early eighties. But then he

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 3>kept sidestepping these controversies. Somehow he was able to avoid

0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:26.159
<v Speaker 3>it all. Old Shi Xiang Xin became the abbot of

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 3>the Shaolin Temple in nineteen ninety nine. That's why I

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 3>think his master may have passed away.

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 2>It had been long enough.

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<v Speaker 3>So this then makes him a powerful member of the

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 3>Chinese Parliament as a representative of the Zen Buddhist monastery.

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.320
<v Speaker 3>So he's up in the high ash lines of power.

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so before he was a monk, he was

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 3>known as lu Ying Sheng and in eighty one, that's

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 3>when he first joined the Shaolin Temple, it becomes a

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 3>novice monk, and as I said earlier, his master kicks

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 3>him out for bad behavior. He finesses his way back in.

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.919
<v Speaker 3>By nineteen ninety nine, he's now in the halls of power.

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:02.200
<v Speaker 3>He wins admirers for how committed he is to reviving

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the long neglected Shaolin Temple. He basically had it fallen

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 3>into disrepair. Yeah, so the temple complex, which is this

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 3>vast complex, was in desperate need of not just paint job,

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 3>but I mean like real attention, like repair the wood,

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 3>all sorts of stuffah, which he does. He leads this,

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 3>he brings it back to its former glory of the

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.719
<v Speaker 3>ancient days of the past. Now it's like, oh, this

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 3>is how it would have looked, you know, hundreds of

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 3>years ago. That wins in all sorts of social currency

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 3>in the party, and later that turns into power. So

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 3>guess what he did with that power, Elizabeth. That's right,

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 3>he got to criming God. Of course. So these days

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 3>the Shaolin Temple, it's this major money maker. It's a

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 3>home of tourism. It's like the Disneyland of Zen Buddhism.

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 3>And it's not like that's a shot. That was the

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 3>abbot's own words.

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what you're he can't.

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Back in twenty fifteen, he was attempting to export the

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 3>successes of the Shaolin Temple to Australia, and he said

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 3>to the state news agency in China, Xinhua, and I quote,

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 3>if China can import Disney resorts, why can't other countries

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<v Speaker 3>import the Shaolin Monastery.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 2>So he put them franchises.

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like Disneyland, Shaldon Monastery, these are kind of the

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.919
<v Speaker 3>same thing. So in order to win favor for that

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 3>idea of importing Shaolin Monastery to Australia, the quote CEO

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 3>of Shaolin Temple, he wrote a three million dollar check

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 3>to a town in Australia to basically bribe them into

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 3>building a branch of the Shaolin Temple there. Now, yeah,

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 3>that's his attitude. Yeah, but these days, if you visit

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 3>the Shaolin Temple, the major takeaway you would come away

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 3>with is how dedicated they are to monetizing the home.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Of kung Fu and gift shop.

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh girl, there's not only will they sell you all

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 3>kinds of trinkets and souvenirs, but just like a museum,

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 3>when you leave the temple complex. You exit through the

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 3>gift shop stop Swear to God, and inside the complex

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 3>you're pitched all kinds of crap. There's refrigerator magnets, there's

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Buddhist Kung Fu action figures and statuettes. You can get hats,

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 3>t shirts, sneakers. They now sell La Boo boo dolls.

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 4>What this is crazy and I want some of this.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 4>You know my friend who's been doing that, he's been

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 4>doing this since like their early nineties.

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm sure he's dedicated.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 6>Eighties.

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it wasn't something that was on everyone's radar.

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow, but now my star.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now it's the Disneyland of Buddhism.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I want a truck her hat, Dude.

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>I recommend going to there and you can be a

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 3>truck her hat and then you also you can you

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 3>can buy a ticket for the calligraphy demonstration.

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Well I do.

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 3>You can also hit up the food court of snacks, dolls.

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 2>It's all vegetarian. I pray I would.

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You can rent an electric cart and tour the

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 3>complex and be given a tour. Yeah, you can pay

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 3>for a tour guide. They will share the history of

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>the ancient home of Zen Buddhism with you. Yeah, it's

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>basically Disneyland.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 4>That's totally something I would do on like a vacation

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 4>and be like that'd be really interesting, and then like

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 4>halfway through, I'm like, I've got to get it.

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Remember, Yeah, you're also going to be sitting with like

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 3>German tourist, Canadian tourists, like some Mexican family. There are

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 3>everybody's going, oh yes, loud American. Yeah, definitely loud Americans.

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 3>You know you would be one of them, or maybe

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 3>not you, but I would be one of them. I'm no,

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 3>not generally. Now, obviously when you're there, they still have

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>monks like in meditation in the halls because you got to.

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 3>And you also have kung fu demos like what you're

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 3>talking about the Flying Kicks, because yeah, you gotta have

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 3>something to sell the people. You gotta have a show

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 3>for the folks to come. So now, over the years,

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 3>this place has been home to many famous visitors. The

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 3>late Queen of England, Elizabeth II, she went there. Stevie

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Wonder went there. I don't I guess you just wanted

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 3>to hear how it all was. Mike Tyson went there,

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Nelson Mandela went there, Tim cook of Apple. He's definitely

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 3>been there.

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Tim Apple was there.

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Henry Kissinger was up in there. He's like, I never

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 3>bummed this. No, then there was Robert Robert Downey Jo regrets.

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Now all these famous names I know about because they're

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 3>prominently displayed on tab Let's see. You know famous people

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 3>have been here.

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>When you go into like a deli and there's all.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly like the picture frames picture. Now, this gross

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 3>commercialization of the Shaolin brand, it doesn't sit well with

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>many of the monks and other abbots. You Yeah, they

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 3>don't really like the quote ceo of the challintel.

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Their little secret girlfriends look at that and they're like,

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>this is look at this is gross.

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that right?

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Sweetheart?

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Love child? This picture? So the CEO of the Shaolin Temple,

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 3>he is the first Chinese abbot to hold an MBA degree,

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 3>So he wants everyone to know like I'm good at this, okay,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 3>like I've been trained. He's also equally proud how under

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 3>his leadership, the Shaolin Temple has basically come the shen

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Yun of kung food. Right. He now has monks traveling

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>the world putting on kung fu.

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Demonstration wires everywhere, commercials.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Everywhere, and they come around every three months.

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 4>It seems like I was in France last year and

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 4>there were shen Yun on the streets.

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>There's multiple crews.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 3>There's not just like one.

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 4>But I thought it was just for a while. I'm

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 4>so self centered, bear are you a thing? Then I find

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 4>out it's all over the country. Now I find out Zeron,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 4>it's global.

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 3>It's worldwide.

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 3>So Also because he's trying to, you know, do all

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 3>this commercialization of the Shaolin brand, he's also approved video games, movies, cartoons.

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 3>He will rent out the name for traditional Chinese medicine companies,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 3>for book deals, real estate deals like.

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Real estate deals, say the hotel.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Totally brought to you a boy Shaolin temple, this new

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 3>tract of condos, yeah, homes. When asked about it, as

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 3>he put a quote, cultural promotion is a very dignified undertaking.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Well sure if you says so now in Chinese state media.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 3>As for any benefit that he may receive for his

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 3>works selling kung Fu and Buddhism all around the world,

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 3>such as perhaps luxury cars or money, he has said,

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>and I quote monks are also citizens. We have fulfilled

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 3>our duties and made contributions to society, so it is

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 3>only right that we receive rewards.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.959
<v Speaker 2>It seems like a very capitalist venture.

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that Lord Budda would be too in now.

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 3>In twenty fifteen, that was the first time he was

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 3>credibly accused of misdeeds. Allegedly. This was for embezzling from

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 3>all the vast wealth that he's generating as rewards. An

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 3>anonymous letter accused him of not only embezzlement, but that

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 3>he'd been siphoning off big, big money to pay off

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 3>his several mistresses and pay for his love children. Yeah,

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 3>this anonymous letter caused an uproar in China. Right, so

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 3>the claims now have to be investigated. Everyone's talking about it.

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>So the Shaolin Temple says we'll look into the matter,

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 3>and as did some local authorities. Now in his own defense,

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Shi Jong Xin, he said to the BBC in China, quote,

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 3>if there were a problem, it would have surfaced long ago.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to address in any accusations.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Totally, this new one couldn't be because there's no.

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Old one now.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, both investigations by the local authorities and by the

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 3>Shaolin Temple itself determined that, surprise, surprise, he was innocent

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 3>of all charges. Of course, in fact, the Shaolin Temple

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 3>not only defended him, but they did so with this

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 3>like angry vigor investigations that were all dropped in twenty

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 3>seventeen based on quote, insufficient evidence. And then he was

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 3>later re elected as the Deputy head of the Buddhist

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 3>Association of China, which is the state aligned like supervisory

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 3>board for all policing of misdeeds by Buddhists. Oh so

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 3>they put the wolf in charge.

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fox in charge of the him.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.959
<v Speaker 3>There you go, Yes, this irony is not small. So

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 3>he remained CEO of the Shaolin Temple until now a

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 3>decade later, when Homie showed up with not an anonymous letter,

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 3>but the photo, the birth certificate, the pictures. Now people

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 3>were like, oh, that's gonna be harder to deny the

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 3>new campaign to expose his misdeeds. You know, it points

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:39.959
<v Speaker 3>out the same improper relationships, It points out the love child,

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 3>and now if he's violating his vows of celibacy, that's

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 3>a serious deal. So at this point, the now fifty

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>nine year old abbot Shi Yong xin aka the CEO

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Monk of Shaolin. He's in hot water with Chinese authorities

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 3>because he's making all of Buddhism look bad. And they're like,

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>we can't have that man. You gotta be cool. And

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 3>the Shaolin Temple leadership took the same view. They're like,

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 3>we're now a money maker. You're risking like our our

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 3>you know our check, right, you can't be doing this.

0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>So they accused him of quote suspected criminal offenses, including embezzlement,

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 3>misappropriation of project funds and temple assets. You're messing with

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 3>the money, you messing with my mind smoking. The official

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>statement in Chinese stated that quote she is currently under

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 3>joint investigation by multiple departments. Further information will be released

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 3>to the public in due course. Now a lot of

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 3>people thought this means, oh, they're going to sweep it

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 3>under the rug once people forget about it. But there's

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 3>a big change. The President of China, Jijiingping, has launched

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 3>this nationwide crackdown on corruption and abuses of power. Yeah.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>He stated repeatedly that his campaign is aimed to root

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 3>out corruption. That is both quote the tigers and the flies.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 3>That means from the lowest public service to the most

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 3>powerful ministers, religious leaders, like our CEO of Shaolin Temple. Yeah.

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>So far under Jijiingping, thousands of people have been arrested

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 3>and they faced corruption charges. Looks like the CEO of

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 3>the Shaolin Temple is next. Because in July late July

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 3>this year, the Buddhist Association of China released a statement

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 3>about old shi jiang Xin, and they said that he's

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 3>been decertified of his ordination, meaning he's lost his official

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 3>certificate and he's no longer a monk. Yeah, so he's

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 3>been basically kicked out of the temple and the order

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 3>of Monks. As the Buddhist Association of China put it, quote,

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 3>she yong Xin's actions are of an extremely egregious nature,

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 3>severely tarnishing the reputation of the Buddhist community and damaging

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 3>the image of monastics. And they later added, and I

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 3>quote the Buddhist Association of China firmly supports and endorses

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 3>the decision to handle Shei juang Xin's case in accordance

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 3>with the law. So they're basically like, we're gonna let

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Jijingping break them down something. Now, if you ask she

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Jiang Xin what he's thinking and feeling about these statements

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 3>and his tenuous future these days, he told state media,

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 3>and I quote, I haven't done anything guilty, so I'm

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 3>not afraid of devil's knocking on the door. Now, that

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 3>may not sound like mighty thing, but that references an

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 3>old Chinese and I don't know enough old Chinese sangs

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 3>to make sense of that. But I do know about

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 3>the words of the Taoist masters Lausu and Shuangsu, which

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I will not quote here today specifically. So does sound

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 3>like I'm pulling some like oh ancient Chinese? Probably right. Instead,

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll go with the much more level headed statement, you

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 3>better watch it because yijingpang don't play right. There you go.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>That's my ancient Chinese proverb now basically temporary.

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 6>No.

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.439
<v Speaker 3>When it comes to like a devil's knocking on the door,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 3>it did call to mind something that Bob Dylan sang

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 3>in Highway sixty one. Yeah, Abe says man, you must

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 3>be putting me on sun And God said no. Abe

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.439
<v Speaker 3>said what God said? You can do what you want

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>a but the next time you see me coming, you

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 3>better runs. So bang on that note, Let's take another break,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 3>and when we get back, I got one more tale

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Buddhist monks behaving badly, and this one's wildly.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 8>Can't wait, Elizabeth, We're back, Hi, you're ready to get

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 8>freaky again with some more badly.

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Baby Burists is ready to get freaky now.

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 3>I could tell you about Fra Komb, the Buddhist monk

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 3>down in Thailand who got popped in April of twenty

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 3>twenty three when investigators got to work and they found

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 3>that the monk head quote buried gold bars in the

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 3>hills outside of his monastery and also transferred two point

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 3>two million dollars to bank accounts in his sister's name, right,

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 3>and also he and his fellow monks conspired to embezzle

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 3>about twelve million from their loyal and faithful followers, who

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 3>largely live in near poverty.

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Now, my favorite part of that story is how he

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 3>ultimately got caught. Right, He was busted by local police,

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 3>but they didn't have much evidence against him, so Fracom,

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>being like abundantly overconfident, he phoned his monastery from the

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.479
<v Speaker 3>police station where he was being questioned, and he ordered

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 3>his fellow monks to go and hide their loot. I

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 3>don't know if the cops were listening in or if

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 3>he was just loud talking on the phone. Either way,

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 3>the cops drove out there and they watched the monks

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 3>hide the stuff, so they knew where all of it was.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 3>As one of the officers told local media quote, some

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 3>had hidden it in the bell tower, some had buried

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 3>in the hills behind the temple, and they covered it

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 3>with monks robes. Our investigation team was stunned. It was

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 3>a huge amount. But these people, they took it for themselves.

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 3>This is going to be an ongoing theme, right So

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 3>after he and the other six monks were busted, they

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 3>caught serious charges because Thailand is in a grip of

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 3>this problem right now with bad Buddhist monks. So they

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty eight years behind bars. Wow, sixty eight

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 3>that'll get your attention if you think you're untouchable.

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Now I can also tell you about the monk Fracado,

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 3>who was apparently this very handsome monk. He was a

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 3>social media influencer, and he got caught in a sexual

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 3>relationship with his forbidden. His date was a really attractive

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 3>model that everybody was also very familiar with. So obviously

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 3>he's violating the valve celibacy with this other famous influencer.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 2>And an influencer has to have like ego. Oh yeah, wait,

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>how does that work?

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Right? Well, that's kind of how he got caught because

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.439
<v Speaker 3>once the news was tightening, he tried to bribe both

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.240
<v Speaker 3>his lover, the model and the journalist who was writing

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 3>about their affair. No way, and he tried to do

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 3>it with money he'd embezzled from the monastery. And then

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 3>he got caught in a secret audio recording which doomed

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>his planet hush money.

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, So both of those feel vaguely similar to the

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 3>stories I've already told you. So I've got a whole

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 3>different story to tell you. Yes, And I think, actually,

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I've got a couple stories, And I think these next

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 3>tales are my favorite from the genre of Buddhist monks

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 3>behaving badly. Yeah, because first up, we have the story

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 3>of a senior Buddhist monk who was caught at a

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 3>tie resort by local authorities are investigating a major drug

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 3>smuggling operation in the area. They were not investigating him. Yeah,

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the local police busted the senior monk after they discovered

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.760
<v Speaker 3>four point eight million methan fetamine pills he was smuggling

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 3>in his minivan.

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, stop, stop, we have to stop and take

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>take inventory here. Okay, so four point eight million.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Million meth pills meth pills, and they are just happened

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 3>to be there. They're already investigating. They're trying to figure

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 3>out how this drug cartel's moving pills, and then they

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 3>see this mini van.

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And more point eight million pills is a lot.

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, oh yeah, and in a mini hidden in cardboard

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 3>boxes along with like a handgun.

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>He had to be jam packed. He could not see

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 2>out the back windows totally.

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not safe.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 4>It was definitely overloaded minivan and the bottom screeping.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 2>He can't go over speedbump.

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 3>No, he's going at an angle over the speed bump.

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 3>So also, by the way, he had a handgun with

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 3>fourteen bullets in the magazine and yeah, one in the chamber.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, sure.

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 3>The monk didn't deny any of this. Instead he goes,

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>I am the victim here. Yes, the senior monk told

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 3>the police that, yes, he was a courier for the

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 3>local drug kingpins. That was true, and all told he'd

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 3>been paid about three hundred thousand tie bot, which is

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 3>a roughly equivalent to ten thousand dollars US. Okay, The

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.839
<v Speaker 3>deal was he would drive the van through checkpoints, knowing

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.720
<v Speaker 3>that the local police would never question a minivan driven

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 3>by a high ranking monk.

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, So he's like, what's in the back, uh, books, prayer, rugs,

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 3>and the rod. Yeah. So this wasn't his first run.

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 3>He'd done it twice before he got caught. So he

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>pleads poverty when the cops bust him, He's like, I

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 3>need the money, man, I got my studies and they're expensive,

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 3>and so they worked me over and I said I'll

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 3>take the money.

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:28.800
<v Speaker 9>No.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 3>So his story isn't my favorite though, yet, because I've

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 3>got more. There was the story of a flashy monk

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 3>who drove around at a brand new BMW while he

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 3>ran meth. I don't know how he thought he wouldn't

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 3>get caught. There's a lot of meth in Thailand apparently. Yeah,

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 3>he's like I used to hear about the goal like

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Thai speed whiskey. They've moved on to just mess thills.

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's twenty eighteen right and up in the northeastern

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>province of Colisne, Thailand. This dude is roaming around and

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>is like flashy BMW ferrying meth for the local drug card.

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 3>When the police busted him, he had eight thousand red

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 3>speed pills and plastic baggies, along with some pot, some

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 3>crystal meth, not one, not two, but three handguns because

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 3>I guess he was a bad shot and he needed

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 3>a couple times.

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:13.919
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>He confesses that it wasn't just him, but his fellow

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 3>monks were all doing meth together, and I guess that

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 3>was like there what, Yeah, there was their secret to

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 3>reaching Nirvana speed meditation. Yeah. So also, by the way,

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 3>it turns out he wasn't really a monk so much

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 3>because he'd been a street criminal. First he thought, you know,

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 3>if I posed as a monk, that would be good cover.

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>So he joined up, put on the saffron robes and

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 3>then he started running met for the crew. Then now

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 3>he gets popped, He gets defrocked and expelled from the

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:47.240
<v Speaker 3>order on that totally pulled down the whole order. Yeah, exactly,

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.360
<v Speaker 3>as one police officer put it, quote, the suspect enjoyed

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 3>a luxury lifestyle with over ten million bots circulating his

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 3>bank accounts. He drove his BMW to deliver speed pills

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 3>and crystal meth to his clients, mostly nightclubbers. Now we

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 3>get to my favorite of these Buddhists behaving badly. This

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 3>one comes to us from twenty twenty one. Now, rather

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>than me tell you about this one, Elizabeth, I'd like

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 3>you to close your eyes my eyes, and I'd like

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>you to picture it. It's November twenty twenty one and

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 3>you are in the southern Thai province of Chumpong. You're

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 3>riding shotgun in a police truck. No sirens. There's just

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 3>the sound of the steady hum of the engine, the

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>wheels as they splash through shallow puddles that gather in

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 3>the ruts of the jungle road. There's also the speed

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 3>of the wind as it whips passed your open windows.

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 3>At the moment, your eyes are trained on the softly

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 3>swaying trees from a plantation of palm trees. It's a

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>rather idyllic scene. And you're working as an international journalist

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 3>for the BBC. You're on a ride along with a

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 3>squad of Thai police. They've decided to give you an

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 3>exclusive story to cover, one that maybe the local press

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't do fair justice. At the moment You're headed towards

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 3>a Buddhist temple that's nestled in the lush southern jungle.

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 3>The officer you're riding with says very little to you,

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 3>which is fine with you. You're busy jotting down notes from

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 3>what you recall earlier of the police briefing. So far,

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:16.359
<v Speaker 3>this day has felt like a rare adventure. And then

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 3>you spot it, the spire of the central pagoda of

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 3>the temple complex. It competes with the jungle trees and

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 3>the palm tree plantation. The officer driving the police truck

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 3>smiles at you and points and says that's it. You

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 3>smile and nod back. The truck draws closer and closer,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 3>until finally the line of police trucks drives right through

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 3>the open gates, and one by one, the truck's pull

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 3>to a stop. Cops spring from their vehicles and you

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 3>follow them, taking notes on everything you see. You even

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 3>lift your camera, the one dangling against your chest, and

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>you snap a few photos. Meanwhile, the police are all business.

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 3>They rush into the temple hall and they round up

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.280
<v Speaker 3>the monks, who are deep in meditative prayer. The abbot

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>of the temple stands up and greets the police. He's

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 3>all smiles and offers a warm welcome. With his hands

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 3>pressed together, he approaches them. The monk's saffron robes are spotless.

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 3>The police are all business. They tell the abbot why

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 3>they've come. One cop lifts up a plastic container for

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 3>a urine sample, and he shakes it. The Abbot's warm

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 3>smile falls. You scribble more notes. After a quick exchange

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:20.839
<v Speaker 3>between the police and the abbot, he and the other

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 3>meditating monks are led out of the temple hall and

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 3>brought outside, where they are lined up. Each monk is

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 3>handed a plastic container and told to fill it. The

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 3>monks look annoyed, dismayed, irritated, but they do as instructive

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 3>there before the watching eyes of the police. One by one,

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 3>the monks lift their saffron robes and fill the plastic

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 3>container with fresh, warm urine. Then they hamm the container

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.480
<v Speaker 3>over to the waiting officers. The urine samples normally would

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 3>be sent to a lab technician, but instead the cops

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 3>place them on the hood of their police trucks, and

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.240
<v Speaker 3>one by one the urine samples are opened. A chemical

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 3>is added. You ask the lead officer what they're testing for.

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 3>He nods and says methamphetamy, and then you watch as,

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 3>one by one the one the urine samples turn purple.

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 3>It's the telltale marker that the urine samples contain meth.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 3>The lead officer gives the sign to a squad of cops.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 3>They handcuffs the monks and the abbot, since even his

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:14.760
<v Speaker 3>urine samples showed signs of met After the urine tester completed,

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 3>you follow the officers as they investigate the compound. You

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>snap photos as the officers scour their sleeping quarters. The

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 3>cops find meth pipes, You snap a photo of vat

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 3>The cops pull out of baggies of meth pills. You

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 3>snap pictures of that. The cops also find bottles of

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 3>urine from underneath the monk's beds. Who knows why those

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>are there? You dutifully snap photos of that too. The

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 3>evidence is all gathered up, bagged, tagged, and loaded into

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 3>the police trucks. At the gate of the compound, you

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 3>see locals watching the progress of this police raid. You

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.760
<v Speaker 3>wander over to get quotes from the locals. You find

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 3>a man who speaks English. He tells you quote finally

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 3>the police have come. These monks are not good people.

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 3>You both watch as all of the monks and the

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 3>abbot are arrested and loaded into the police trucks, and

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 3>then he says something that staves with you. If all

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 3>monks were arrested and taken away along with the abbot,

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 3>who will do merit making? Now you ask what he means,

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 3>and he explains that the locals donate food and what

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 3>little money they have to these monks so that they

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 3>will spiritually protect the villagers. But now, who will do

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 3>spiritual battle for the locals? He says, these monks on

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>the meth are better than no monks at all. Oh no,

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 3>So there you go, Elizabeth, you just covered the story

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.399
<v Speaker 3>of a whole Buddhist temple getting busted for being high

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>on even the abbot. A reporter for the Agency French

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Press also covered this drug raid and they interviewed a

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 3>local village chief named turdsack Pudwana, who spoke of the

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 3>surprise of this drug bust as he told the AFP quote,

0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>if you ask me, was I shocked? I could not

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 3>imagine all the monks in this temple were addicted. And

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 3>he later added, and I quote when those monks were

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.840
<v Speaker 3>arrested for using narcotics, the villagers who still had faith

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 3>felt like they've been betrayed. And that's key, the ones

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>who still had faith. Yeah, these monks are eroding the

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 3>faith of the ninety percent of Buddhist population.

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Like, look, it's either meth monks or no monks. It's like, well,

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe this time for no monks. Yes, that's the

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 2>best you can do.

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 3>How about the nuns? Can we give the nuns a shot?

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 5>Uns?

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I haven't heard a single story but the nuns doing

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 3>the meth with the monks. So the punishments, by the way,

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 3>we're all swift. All of the monks and the abbot

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 3>were disrobed and kicked out of the monk could they're

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 3>losing monks as fast as they can. The locals chiefs

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 3>point though, those who still had faith, right, and they

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 3>felt like they had been betrayed. That's because you have

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.240
<v Speaker 3>to understand how big a business Buddhism is in Thailand.

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 3>There are roughly forty three thousand temples which raise an

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 3>estimated four billion dollars each year from donations. What from

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 3>donations from poor poverished people. The government tosses in some

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.239
<v Speaker 3>coins too, to the tune of about one hundred and

0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 3>seventy million a year. But the four billion comes from

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 3>people who were like, they could really use this money,

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:53.479
<v Speaker 3>just like.

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 4>The flashier ones get a lot of tourist money too,

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 4>like people who are like, oh, we want to do it,

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 4>but yeah, the port's mostly the locals like what they

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:02.800
<v Speaker 4>can't afford to get exactly.

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's giving big time medieval Catholic church energy here,

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:09.919
<v Speaker 3>so you know, like me buy an indulgence, but they're

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 3>getting no indulgence.

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 9>You know.

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 3>So when you have mets smuggling, meth pill popping monks,

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:16.760
<v Speaker 3>and monks paying off blackmail to keep their bad behavior

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 3>secret and their love child behind doors, the people in

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 3>the government they start feeling like fools essentially, right. Yeah,

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 3>So the cops, they sure, they're trying to root out

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 3>these bad monks, but the number of news stories I found,

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 3>and the number of news stories that appear every year

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:32.479
<v Speaker 3>is really having an impact on the faith of these people. Sure,

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 3>And so that means at this point a lot of

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 3>the bad behavior gets overlooke because they don't want to

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.919
<v Speaker 3>keep growing the story and further embarrass the Buddhist monks

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 3>it's the exact opposite of what you would hope they

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 3>would do.

0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Like, for instance, I found some claim that cops will

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 3>often work with the National Office of Buddhism to allow

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 3>cover ups. Allegedly, the director of the nob he recently said, quote,

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 3>right now, if monks commit wrongdoing, the National Office of

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Buddhism can only report that information and evidence to administrative

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 3>monks to review. The monk process is slow, I must admit, right.

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 3>So this is how I found the Serpico of Thailand.

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:09.840
<v Speaker 3>There is a true believer in both Buddhism and the

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 3>law right, and he launches his one man undercover operation

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 3>to run out bad.

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Monks totally right.

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 3>So he entered the police. Lieutenant Colonel Sayumpu Kalu jichis

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 3>radom okay right, He went and got himself ordained, and

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 3>then he went undercover as a monk. No, yes, he

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 3>put it quote being a police officer one has to

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 3>be ready in both body and mind. The best thing

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.359
<v Speaker 3>for me was to try to become a monk.

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 3>So, hiding out at the temple, he waited for the

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 3>drugs to arrive and then he would bust everyone involved.

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I love it, as he tells a quote, I just

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 3>covered myself with the rope. That way a weapon and

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 3>camera could be hidden. Oh no, and hidden behind his

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 3>saffron robes. He was able to bust two monks, two

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 3>math dealers, and a bunch of drug smugglers. His one

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 3>man operation lasted a few weeks, and he recounted the

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 3>quote generally, the public appreciated what we did and admired

0:49:57.160 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 3>us for eliminating an enemy of religion. So there you go,

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:01.399
<v Speaker 3>our little hope.

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Is this one man, one guy? He's the one man army.

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the mini stories of badly behaving Buddhist monks.

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 3>It's like they always say, the last refuge for the

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 3>scoundrel is the church or in this case, the Buddhist temple. Yes,

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:15.280
<v Speaker 3>So what's so ridiculous takeaway here? Elizabeth?

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, I am just personally, this is just my

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 4>own personal take my takeaway. I am distrustful. I do

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 4>not trust people who broadcast their belief system. Yes, it's

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 4>in such an in an aggressive way. And you've listed

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 4>all these bad Buddhists. They are not good at being Buddhists.

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 9>Yes.

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 4>And I used to have a neighbor who was like

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 4>that who all he did was like broadcast out that

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 4>he was this Buddhist and it was like his business

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.319
<v Speaker 4>was part of that everything. Sure, and he was the

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 4>most selfish, manipulative, like he had zero compassion. He's with

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, nasty gossip about.

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Other people in the building. Yure, horrible person.

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 4>But yet it was such a part of like his

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:01.799
<v Speaker 4>broadcast identity. And so I think, if you really have

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 4>a faith system and you believe in it and you

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.359
<v Speaker 4>think other people should have it and share it, if

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 4>you just live the right way, and people be like.

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, what's your secret?

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, and then ask, But if

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 4>you go around and so you craft this identity.

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:17.800
<v Speaker 2>All these bad monks they had.

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 4>This identity that got them all all power, all sorts

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 4>of other stuff. But in the they're rotten at the core.

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 4>They're just bad at it was there And what's your

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:27.040
<v Speaker 4>ridiculous takeaway?

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Elizabeth for asking, I actually have one. It's

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of ridiculous, But you know me, I side

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 3>with the Taoists. That's like out of all the spiritual

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 3>religious traditions on the planet. I was raised Catholic, but

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I really ultimately side with the Taoist, and it comes

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 3>down to a very simple Dawist saying, there is those

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 3>who know, don't say, and those who say don't know.

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I believe.

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 3>So if I hear somebody telling me about their faith,

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 3>I usually don't believe them, but if I see the

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 3>acts of their faith, I totally believe them. Correct. So

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.439
<v Speaker 3>in this case, we saw no acts of face zero

0:51:57.480 --> 0:52:00.200
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0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:09.160
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