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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Ern So nice to see you, So good to

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Speaker 2: see you.

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you, sir. And that bright

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Speaker 3: eyes and bushy tail smile. Do you know it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: I do know it's ridiculous. Okay.

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Speaker 4: You know how people who've been drinking smell like alcohol, Yeah, totally,

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes it's coming out of their pores.

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Speaker 3: Yes, especially the next day. I have friends who definitely

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Speaker 3: smell like bar rags.

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Speaker 4: And like, if you get pulled over, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: not just the police will look at how you're driving,

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Speaker 4: is maybe an indication that you've been drinking, but they'll sniff.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, they definitely smell their smell the alcohol

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Speaker 3: I've been drinking today, sir.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, so we got a problem here with this

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Speaker 4: is a mashup, and so you.

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Speaker 3: Take I'm taking it.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting with Cores.

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Speaker 3: God, and.

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Speaker 2: What would you not want to have it.

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Speaker 4: Mixed with course course your mouth deodorant? What deodorant? So

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Speaker 4: they've teamed up. Cores has teamed up with this company,

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Speaker 4: Dura Chill, which is like a deodorant company, and they've

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Speaker 4: made this like Dura Chill Cours deodorant's supposed to smell

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Speaker 4: like the breeze of the Rocky mountains. It has to

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Speaker 4: be refrigerated before it can be properly.

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Speaker 3: Applied because it's the coldest beer.

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Speaker 4: And you know how like the packaging on the cours

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Speaker 4: the mountain changes colorue, Well, that same thing happens with

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Speaker 4: the deodorant. Okay, cores Light is all about helping people,

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Speaker 4: quote choose chill this summer. We wanted to take that

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Speaker 4: to the next level, starting with your armpits. We can

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Speaker 4: blame Marcello pascoa vice president of marketing at cors Light,

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Speaker 4: in a press release. There, whether you're sweating through a

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Speaker 4: heat wave or just trying to stay chill watching a

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Speaker 4: Leagues Cup match, Dura Chill is like giving your underarms

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Speaker 4: their own ice cold beer.

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Speaker 3: Is there a competition we don't know about where these

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Speaker 3: companies try to come up with the craziest mashup.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Just the people like us talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the people like us talk about it.

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Speaker 4: We got tipped off by I don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: Charmie or Charmie Cajun on Instagram, right, you know, but

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Speaker 4: the Cajun told us about this.

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Speaker 2: This is horrendous way to get me rage and care. Well,

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Speaker 2: we got back to.

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Speaker 4: The point I'm looking at this, and I got back

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Speaker 4: to like, I don't think I want to do these anymore, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, Lord, I do not ask for much.

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Speaker 2: Takes the wind out of me.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you, I've given myself a break, I know,

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Speaker 4: and I come back and I'm just like end of

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Speaker 4: the Empire stuff.

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Speaker 2: I can't take it.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, I'm glad I could share my pain course deodorant,

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Speaker 4: Corse deodorant. It's also it's limited, of course, of course,

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Speaker 4: fourteen ninety nine, limited to tu per household, not subject

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Speaker 2: But there's no beer in it.

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Speaker 3: You've done a lot of these mashups over the years. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've never heard one that I was like, that's actually

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Speaker 3: like mad lips, like, all right, name a product, dealt Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna combine that with name another product. Wow, Well

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Speaker 3: I'll give you that. It is ridiculous, Yes it is, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 3: I got something for you it's straight up ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Is it ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Truly deep levels of ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: Like it is it cold armpit ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Not so much.

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Speaker 2: It's a better kind.

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Speaker 3: Now, if I say to you a couple of words

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Speaker 3: like Wu Tang and Shao l in abbots and monks,

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Speaker 3: and then I mentioned crime, right, you may think of

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Speaker 3: like old dirty bastards mini run ins with the law.

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Speaker 3: In that case, you'd be wrong. Oh why is that

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Speaker 3: great question? Elizabeth? The reason it's simple, Real Buddhist monks

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Speaker 3: keep popping off with legit, wild ass crimes, and I've

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Speaker 3: got a compendium for you today.

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Speaker 5: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 5: heights and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 5: and what one hundred percent ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Okay, first things first, Yeah, let's comeiver any confusion that

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Speaker 3: I may have started you off with between Wu Tang

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Speaker 3: and Wu Tang clan. Now, if I say Wu Tang,

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Speaker 3: that refers to a holy mountain located in the Hubei

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Speaker 3: which is home to the Daoist and Zen Buddhist traditions.

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Speaker 3: It's also where the birthplace of Kung Fu. The Wu

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Speaker 3: if I say, w Wu Tang clan that was formed

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Speaker 3: in the late eighties early nineties in Staten Island, and

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Speaker 3: it's a it's a rap group, right, They were formed

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Speaker 3: circa nineteen ninety one. Yeah, the Wu Tang Clan features

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Speaker 3: some of the finest lyricists in the history of hip hop. Specifically,

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Speaker 3: there's the Rizza, the Jizza, Old Dirty Bastard, Inspected Deck,

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Speaker 3: God and Mastakilla. So Wu Tang Clan, bunch of sick

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Speaker 3: ass rappers from Staten Island. Yeah, Wu Tang Holy Mountain

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Speaker 3: in China. You got it?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Got it?

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Speaker 3: Good? Now let's get down to the nitty gritty and

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Speaker 3: the sorry state of criminal Buddhists in Wu Tang and elsewhere. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you follow international news like I do, you easily

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Speaker 3: see that these days Wu Tang and Shallin and crime

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Speaker 3: crime energy these days. It's truly wild. Like I'm like,

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Speaker 3: wait again, Like sometimes I think the story has already

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Speaker 3: For instance, we'll start with case one. It's called the

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Speaker 3: Sika golf sex scandal. Oh have you heard about this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, this first story takes place in Thailand, not

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Speaker 3: It also marks the beginning of the brotherhood of Buddhist monks.

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Speaker 3: And I learned a lot about Buddhism, and so I

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Speaker 3: wanted to share it with you. There's coming called the

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Speaker 3: three gems. Now there's the Buddha, and then Dama or

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Speaker 3: the law of nature or quote, the truth of life. Now,

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Speaker 3: the law of nature is simple enough. It determines that quote,

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Speaker 3: that I'd mentioned earlier this year, Elizabeth, the sanga is

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Speaker 3: with this woman nicknamed Sika Golf was arrested for sex

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Speaker 2: See when you said.

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Speaker 4: It was the golf scan, I thought it was like

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Speaker 3: I wish it was that simple. It's more of a nickname.

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Speaker 3: But here Sika it means devotee of a monk okay right,

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Speaker 3: and golf is like her street name.

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Speaker 3: So just like these club there, you know. Now, just

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Speaker 3: like Catholic priests, Buddhist monks are also supposed to maintain

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Speaker 2: Eighty thousands.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm talking like a boatload of Buddhist monks

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Speaker 3: that she was hitting. There were fifteen different temples that

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Speaker 3: How did this all come about? And then how did

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Speaker 4: But were there like eighty thousand items like videos or

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Speaker 4: under like ten thousand photos apiece. Oh yeah, however much

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Speaker 3: She got a lot. Oh, it's a ton. She she

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Speaker 3: the lead investigators they get assigned to this case and

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Speaker 3: suddenly and abruptly left the temple. Turns out, this sixty

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Speaker 3: seven year old app it was being blackmailed by a

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Speaker 3: thirty five year old woman named Willowan Golf mswat.

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Speaker 2: Right golf Golf is her.

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Speaker 3: Nickname, so Willowan mswat Aka Golf. Now, not only that

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Speaker 3: she was also pregnant.

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Speaker 4: She probably drove a VW golf That would be hilarious, right,

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Speaker 3: When she informed the abbot that she was with child,

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Speaker 3: she demanded he pay her some big money to keep

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Speaker 3: have to pay from a love child son now. According

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Speaker 3: to the Bangkok Coast, this now former abbot transferred thirteen

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Speaker 3: million tie Bot to Sika Golf as hush money slash

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Speaker 2: None of these people believe in karma.

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Speaker 3: One would think it's kind of their bag. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you know, that's the devil's work.

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Speaker 3: And she was not good at online gambling because nearly

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Speaker 3: So when the investigators first visit Seeker Golf's home and

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Speaker 4: Think about the number of pictures that we have in

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Speaker 3: Can you give me that I only socialize with the rich.

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Speaker 3: This is why I'm not castigating Sika Golf. She went

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Speaker 7: Yeah too, Elizabeth, We're back, Yes, we are.

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Speaker 3: Now I've got another question for you. Uh huh, what

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Speaker 4: I have a friend who does like that shaolin like

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool. I'm suspecting he as a form of kung

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00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 3: fu or I guess.

436
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. But he's a musician and when he's warming.

437
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 3: Up maybe Taoism, not that, but the tai chi No.

438
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 4: It's not taichi. It's before he gets on stage. She

439
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 4: does this like whole routine. It's pretty cool to work.

440
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 3: That's cool. Yeah, I should have been.

441
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 4: It's the same one that the monks do, okay with

442
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 4: like sticks kicking.

443
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm guessing that's gongo, but yeah, who knows. Going back

444
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 3: to Shaolin and earlier I said that, uh you know

445
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: Shaolin is also Staten Island. Yeah, you remember talking about

446
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 3: the Wu Tang Clan. On their first album, Enter the

447
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 3: thirty six Chambers, all nine mcs of the Wu Tang

448
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: Clan rhymed about how their home on Strong Island aka

449
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: Staten Island was their spiritual chaolin right, and this was

450
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 3: intended to connect them to the ways of kung fu.

451
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 3: Films the seventies and the early eighties and the Shaolin

452
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: Temple and of Central China and his long story traditions

453
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: of Zen Buddhism in the kung fu masters. Yeah, okay,

454
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: So keep that in mind, that inspiration that they hold

455
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: and revere and like are inspired by. That's where this

456
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 3: next story takes place. And just keep the Wu Tang

457
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: and all their reverence for that in mind and measure

458
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: it on the scales of justice against what I'm about

459
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: to tell you of the actual real deal Shaolin Temple

460
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: Boom to three thousand monks and the Central Theater for

461
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: their next crimetale. Now, Elizabeth, I'd like you to meet

462
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: the abbot Shi yong Xin. This cat is no stranger

463
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: to controversy. In the late eighties, he was kicked out

464
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: of the Shaolin Temple by his own master. You're alleged

465
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: bad behavior, but somehow over time he managed to finesse

466
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: his way back in.

467
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you talked to him into putting out a calendar

468
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: of like bad boys of Sin pretty much.

469
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 3: You have no idea how close you are. No, Yeah,

470
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: So I think like his master may have passed away

471
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: and he was able to get back in, because eventually

472
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 3: he became the self dubbed quote CEO of the Shaolin Temple.

473
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: Wait, that's what he calls himself. So that is the

474
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: worst buddhen right.

475
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: That is up until this year, when allegations on Chinese

476
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: social media unseated him from his throne of power. He

477
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 3: now stands accused of being a womanizer, a father of

478
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: multiple illegitimate children, an embezzler of mad money from the

479
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: Shaowin Temple. Now his main accuser who took the Chinese

480
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: social media. They call themselves she Jiangxi, which means interpreting justice.

481
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 3: And once again I would like to apologize her if

482
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: I getting these names wrong in terms of my pronunciation.

483
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 3: I looked up how to say them, but I still

484
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: may not get them exactly correct, So please be generous

485
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: with me. So interpreting justice she Jiangxi is a fitting

486
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: self applied nickname because he's taking on the most high

487
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: of the temple and is literally trying to interpret justice.

488
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 3: Now old interpreting justice, he came with the receipts when

489
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: he posted. He posted photos of one of the women

490
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: who hit the disgraced child and master had been sleeping with.

491
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: He posted pictures of their love child. He posted the

492
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: birth certificate. I mean he had receipts.

493
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

494
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So now this is not the CEO of Shaolin's

495
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: first brush with infamy, not only in the eighties when

496
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 3: he first got kicked out, but before that allegedly. You know,

497
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: he'd been the recipient of all kinds of ill god

498
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: in gifts over the years, such as luxury cars. One

499
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: town gave him a twenty five thousand dollars like gilded robe.

500
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: There has always been these rumors of women and mistresses

501
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: from local women, also professional sex workers. I mean, he's

502
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: dipping his wick everywhere and all this made headlines dating back,

503
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: as I said, to the early eighties. But then he

504
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 3: kept sidestepping these controversies. Somehow he was able to avoid

505
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 3: it all. Old Shi Xiang Xin became the abbot of

506
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: the Shaolin Temple in nineteen ninety nine. That's why I

507
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: think his master may have passed away.

508
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: It had been long enough.

509
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: So this then makes him a powerful member of the

510
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: Chinese Parliament as a representative of the Zen Buddhist monastery.

511
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: So he's up in the high ash lines of power.

512
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so before he was a monk, he was

513
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: known as lu Ying Sheng and in eighty one, that's

514
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 3: when he first joined the Shaolin Temple, it becomes a

515
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: novice monk, and as I said earlier, his master kicks

516
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: him out for bad behavior. He finesses his way back in.

517
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: By nineteen ninety nine, he's now in the halls of power.

518
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: He wins admirers for how committed he is to reviving

519
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: the long neglected Shaolin Temple. He basically had it fallen

520
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: into disrepair. Yeah, so the temple complex, which is this

521
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: vast complex, was in desperate need of not just paint job,

522
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: but I mean like real attention, like repair the wood,

523
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 3: all sorts of stuffah, which he does. He leads this,

524
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: he brings it back to its former glory of the

525
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 3: ancient days of the past. Now it's like, oh, this

526
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: is how it would have looked, you know, hundreds of

527
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: years ago. That wins in all sorts of social currency

528
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: in the party, and later that turns into power. So

529
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: guess what he did with that power, Elizabeth. That's right,

530
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: he got to criming God. Of course. So these days

531
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: the Shaolin Temple, it's this major money maker. It's a

532
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: home of tourism. It's like the Disneyland of Zen Buddhism.

533
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: And it's not like that's a shot. That was the

534
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 3: abbot's own words.

535
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: That's what you're he can't.

536
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: Back in twenty fifteen, he was attempting to export the

537
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: successes of the Shaolin Temple to Australia, and he said

538
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 3: to the state news agency in China, Xinhua, and I quote,

539
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: if China can import Disney resorts, why can't other countries

540
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: import the Shaolin Monastery.

541
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: So he put them franchises.

542
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Disneyland, Shaldon Monastery, these are kind of the

543
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 3: same thing. So in order to win favor for that

544
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: idea of importing Shaolin Monastery to Australia, the quote CEO

545
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: of Shaolin Temple, he wrote a three million dollar check

546
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: to a town in Australia to basically bribe them into

547
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: building a branch of the Shaolin Temple there. Now, yeah,

548
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: that's his attitude. Yeah, but these days, if you visit

549
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: the Shaolin Temple, the major takeaway you would come away

550
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: with is how dedicated they are to monetizing the home.

551
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Of kung Fu and gift shop.

552
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: Oh girl, there's not only will they sell you all

553
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: kinds of trinkets and souvenirs, but just like a museum,

554
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: when you leave the temple complex. You exit through the

555
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: gift shop stop Swear to God, and inside the complex

556
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 3: you're pitched all kinds of crap. There's refrigerator magnets, there's

557
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: Buddhist Kung Fu action figures and statuettes. You can get hats,

558
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: t shirts, sneakers. They now sell La Boo boo dolls.

559
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: What this is crazy and I want some of this.

560
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: You know my friend who's been doing that, he's been

561
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: doing this since like their early nineties.

562
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure he's dedicated.

563
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 6: Eighties.

564
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it wasn't something that was on everyone's radar.

565
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: Wow, but now my star.

566
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, now it's the Disneyland of Buddhism.

567
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: I want a truck her hat, Dude.

568
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: I recommend going to there and you can be a

569
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: truck her hat and then you also you can you

570
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 3: can buy a ticket for the calligraphy demonstration.

571
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: Well I do.

572
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: You can also hit up the food court of snacks, dolls.

573
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: It's all vegetarian. I pray I would.

574
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. You can rent an electric cart and tour the

575
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: complex and be given a tour. Yeah, you can pay

576
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: for a tour guide. They will share the history of

577
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: the ancient home of Zen Buddhism with you. Yeah, it's

578
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: basically Disneyland.

579
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: That's totally something I would do on like a vacation

580
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: and be like that'd be really interesting, and then like

581
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: halfway through, I'm like, I've got to get it.

582
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: Remember, Yeah, you're also going to be sitting with like

583
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: German tourist, Canadian tourists, like some Mexican family. There are

584
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: everybody's going, oh yes, loud American. Yeah, definitely loud Americans.

585
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: You know you would be one of them, or maybe

586
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: not you, but I would be one of them. I'm no,

587
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: not generally. Now, obviously when you're there, they still have

588
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: monks like in meditation in the halls because you got to.

589
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: And you also have kung fu demos like what you're

590
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: talking about the Flying Kicks, because yeah, you gotta have

591
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: something to sell the people. You gotta have a show

592
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: for the folks to come. So now, over the years,

593
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: this place has been home to many famous visitors. The

594
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: late Queen of England, Elizabeth II, she went there. Stevie

595
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: Wonder went there. I don't I guess you just wanted

596
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: to hear how it all was. Mike Tyson went there,

597
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: Nelson Mandela went there, Tim cook of Apple. He's definitely

598
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: been there.

599
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: Tim Apple was there.

600
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: Henry Kissinger was up in there. He's like, I never

601
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: bummed this. No, then there was Robert Robert Downey Jo regrets.

602
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: Now all these famous names I know about because they're

603
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: prominently displayed on tab Let's see. You know famous people

604
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: have been here.

605
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: When you go into like a deli and there's all.

606
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: That's exactly like the picture frames picture. Now, this gross

607
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: commercialization of the Shaolin brand, it doesn't sit well with

608
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: many of the monks and other abbots. You Yeah, they

609
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: don't really like the quote ceo of the challintel.

610
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: Their little secret girlfriends look at that and they're like,

611
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: this is look at this is gross.

612
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: Isn't that right?

613
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: Sweetheart?

614
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: Love child? This picture? So the CEO of the Shaolin Temple,

615
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: he is the first Chinese abbot to hold an MBA degree,

616
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: So he wants everyone to know like I'm good at this, okay,

617
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: like I've been trained. He's also equally proud how under

618
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: his leadership, the Shaolin Temple has basically come the shen

619
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: Yun of kung food. Right. He now has monks traveling

620
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: the world putting on kung fu.

621
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: Demonstration wires everywhere, commercials.

622
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: Everywhere, and they come around every three months.

623
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: It seems like I was in France last year and

624
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: there were shen Yun on the streets.

625
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: There's multiple crews.

626
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: There's not just like one.

627
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: But I thought it was just for a while. I'm

628
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: so self centered, bear are you a thing? Then I find

629
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: out it's all over the country. Now I find out Zeron,

630
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: it's global.

631
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: It's worldwide.

632
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

633
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: So Also because he's trying to, you know, do all

634
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: this commercialization of the Shaolin brand, he's also approved video games, movies, cartoons.

635
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: He will rent out the name for traditional Chinese medicine companies,

636
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: for book deals, real estate deals like.

637
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: Real estate deals, say the hotel.

638
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: Totally brought to you a boy Shaolin temple, this new

639
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: tract of condos, yeah, homes. When asked about it, as

640
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: he put a quote, cultural promotion is a very dignified undertaking.

641
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: Well sure if you says so now in Chinese state media.

642
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: As for any benefit that he may receive for his

643
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: works selling kung Fu and Buddhism all around the world,

644
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: such as perhaps luxury cars or money, he has said,

645
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: and I quote monks are also citizens. We have fulfilled

646
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: our duties and made contributions to society, so it is

647
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: only right that we receive rewards.

648
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 2: It seems like a very capitalist venture.

649
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't think that Lord Budda would be too in now.

650
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen, that was the first time he was

651
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: credibly accused of misdeeds. Allegedly. This was for embezzling from

652
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: all the vast wealth that he's generating as rewards. An

653
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: anonymous letter accused him of not only embezzlement, but that

654
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: he'd been siphoning off big, big money to pay off

655
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: his several mistresses and pay for his love children. Yeah,

656
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: this anonymous letter caused an uproar in China. Right, so

657
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: the claims now have to be investigated. Everyone's talking about it.

658
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: So the Shaolin Temple says we'll look into the matter,

659
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: and as did some local authorities. Now in his own defense,

660
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: Shi Jong Xin, he said to the BBC in China, quote,

661
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: if there were a problem, it would have surfaced long ago.

662
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: That's a great way to address in any accusations.

663
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: Totally, this new one couldn't be because there's no.

664
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: Old one now.

665
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: Ultimately, both investigations by the local authorities and by the

666
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: Shaolin Temple itself determined that, surprise, surprise, he was innocent

667
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: of all charges. Of course, in fact, the Shaolin Temple

668
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: not only defended him, but they did so with this

669
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: like angry vigor investigations that were all dropped in twenty

670
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: seventeen based on quote, insufficient evidence. And then he was

671
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: later re elected as the Deputy head of the Buddhist

672
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: Association of China, which is the state aligned like supervisory

673
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: board for all policing of misdeeds by Buddhists. Oh so

674
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: they put the wolf in charge.

675
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fox in charge of the him.

676
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 3: There you go, Yes, this irony is not small. So

677
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: he remained CEO of the Shaolin Temple until now a

678
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: decade later, when Homie showed up with not an anonymous letter,

679
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: but the photo, the birth certificate, the pictures. Now people

680
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: were like, oh, that's gonna be harder to deny the

681
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: new campaign to expose his misdeeds. You know, it points

682
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 3: out the same improper relationships, It points out the love child,

683
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: and now if he's violating his vows of celibacy, that's

684
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: a serious deal. So at this point, the now fifty

685
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: nine year old abbot Shi Yong xin aka the CEO

686
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: Monk of Shaolin. He's in hot water with Chinese authorities

687
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: because he's making all of Buddhism look bad. And they're like,

688
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: we can't have that man. You gotta be cool. And

689
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: the Shaolin Temple leadership took the same view. They're like,

690
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: we're now a money maker. You're risking like our our

691
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: you know our check, right, you can't be doing this.

692
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: So they accused him of quote suspected criminal offenses, including embezzlement,

693
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: misappropriation of project funds and temple assets. You're messing with

694
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: the money, you messing with my mind smoking. The official

695
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: statement in Chinese stated that quote she is currently under

696
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: joint investigation by multiple departments. Further information will be released

697
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: to the public in due course. Now a lot of

698
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: people thought this means, oh, they're going to sweep it

699
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: under the rug once people forget about it. But there's

700
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: a big change. The President of China, Jijiingping, has launched

701
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: this nationwide crackdown on corruption and abuses of power. Yeah.

702
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: He stated repeatedly that his campaign is aimed to root

703
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: out corruption. That is both quote the tigers and the flies.

704
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: That means from the lowest public service to the most

705
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: powerful ministers, religious leaders, like our CEO of Shaolin Temple. Yeah.

706
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: So far under Jijiingping, thousands of people have been arrested

707
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: and they faced corruption charges. Looks like the CEO of

708
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: the Shaolin Temple is next. Because in July late July

709
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 3: this year, the Buddhist Association of China released a statement

710
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: about old shi jiang Xin, and they said that he's

711
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: been decertified of his ordination, meaning he's lost his official

712
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: certificate and he's no longer a monk. Yeah, so he's

713
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: been basically kicked out of the temple and the order

714
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: of Monks. As the Buddhist Association of China put it, quote,

715
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: she yong Xin's actions are of an extremely egregious nature,

716
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: severely tarnishing the reputation of the Buddhist community and damaging

717
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: the image of monastics. And they later added, and I

718
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: quote the Buddhist Association of China firmly supports and endorses

719
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: the decision to handle Shei juang Xin's case in accordance

720
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: with the law. So they're basically like, we're gonna let

721
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: Jijingping break them down something. Now, if you ask she

722
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: Jiang Xin what he's thinking and feeling about these statements

723
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 3: and his tenuous future these days, he told state media,

724
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: and I quote, I haven't done anything guilty, so I'm

725
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: not afraid of devil's knocking on the door. Now, that

726
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: may not sound like mighty thing, but that references an

727
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 3: old Chinese and I don't know enough old Chinese sangs

728
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: to make sense of that. But I do know about

729
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: the words of the Taoist masters Lausu and Shuangsu, which

730
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: I will not quote here today specifically. So does sound

731
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: like I'm pulling some like oh ancient Chinese? Probably right. Instead,

732
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: I'll go with the much more level headed statement, you

733
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 3: better watch it because yijingpang don't play right. There you go.

734
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 3: That's my ancient Chinese proverb now basically temporary.

735
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: No.

736
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 3: When it comes to like a devil's knocking on the door,

737
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 3: it did call to mind something that Bob Dylan sang

738
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: in Highway sixty one. Yeah, Abe says man, you must

739
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: be putting me on sun And God said no. Abe

740
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 3: said what God said? You can do what you want

741
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: a but the next time you see me coming, you

742
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: better runs. So bang on that note, Let's take another break,

743
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: and when we get back, I got one more tale

744
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: Buddhist monks behaving badly, and this one's wildly.

745
00:35:49,760 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 8: Can't wait, Elizabeth, We're back, Hi, you're ready to get

746
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 8: freaky again with some more badly.

747
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: Baby Burists is ready to get freaky now.

748
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: I could tell you about Fra Komb, the Buddhist monk

749
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 3: down in Thailand who got popped in April of twenty

750
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: twenty three when investigators got to work and they found

751
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: that the monk head quote buried gold bars in the

752
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: hills outside of his monastery and also transferred two point

753
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: two million dollars to bank accounts in his sister's name, right,

754
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: and also he and his fellow monks conspired to embezzle

755
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: about twelve million from their loyal and faithful followers, who

756
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: largely live in near poverty.

757
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

758
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: Now, my favorite part of that story is how he

759
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: ultimately got caught. Right, He was busted by local police,

760
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: but they didn't have much evidence against him, so Fracom,

761
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: being like abundantly overconfident, he phoned his monastery from the

762
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 3: police station where he was being questioned, and he ordered

763
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: his fellow monks to go and hide their loot. I

764
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: don't know if the cops were listening in or if

765
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: he was just loud talking on the phone. Either way,

766
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: the cops drove out there and they watched the monks

767
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: hide the stuff, so they knew where all of it was.

768
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: As one of the officers told local media quote, some

769
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: had hidden it in the bell tower, some had buried

770
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: in the hills behind the temple, and they covered it

771
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: with monks robes. Our investigation team was stunned. It was

772
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: a huge amount. But these people, they took it for themselves.

773
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: This is going to be an ongoing theme, right So

774
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: after he and the other six monks were busted, they

775
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: caught serious charges because Thailand is in a grip of

776
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: this problem right now with bad Buddhist monks. So they

777
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty eight years behind bars. Wow, sixty eight

778
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: that'll get your attention if you think you're untouchable.

779
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

780
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: Now I can also tell you about the monk Fracado,

781
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: who was apparently this very handsome monk. He was a

782
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: social media influencer, and he got caught in a sexual

783
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: relationship with his forbidden. His date was a really attractive

784
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: model that everybody was also very familiar with. So obviously

785
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: he's violating the valve celibacy with this other famous influencer.

786
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: And an influencer has to have like ego. Oh yeah, wait,

787
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: how does that work?

788
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: Right? Well, that's kind of how he got caught because

789
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 3: once the news was tightening, he tried to bribe both

790
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: his lover, the model and the journalist who was writing

791
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: about their affair. No way, and he tried to do

792
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: it with money he'd embezzled from the monastery. And then

793
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: he got caught in a secret audio recording which doomed

794
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: his planet hush money.

795
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

796
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: Yes, So both of those feel vaguely similar to the

797
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: stories I've already told you. So I've got a whole

798
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: different story to tell you. Yes, And I think, actually,

799
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: I've got a couple stories, And I think these next

800
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: tales are my favorite from the genre of Buddhist monks

801
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 3: behaving badly. Yeah, because first up, we have the story

802
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: of a senior Buddhist monk who was caught at a

803
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 3: tie resort by local authorities are investigating a major drug

804
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: smuggling operation in the area. They were not investigating him. Yeah,

805
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: the local police busted the senior monk after they discovered

806
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: four point eight million methan fetamine pills he was smuggling

807
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: in his minivan.

808
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, stop, stop, we have to stop and take

809
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: take inventory here. Okay, so four point eight million.

810
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: Million meth pills meth pills, and they are just happened

811
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: to be there. They're already investigating. They're trying to figure

812
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: out how this drug cartel's moving pills, and then they

813
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: see this mini van.

814
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: And more point eight million pills is a lot.

815
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, and in a mini hidden in cardboard

816
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: boxes along with like a handgun.

817
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: He had to be jam packed. He could not see

818
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: out the back windows totally.

819
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: It's not safe.

820
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: It was definitely overloaded minivan and the bottom screeping.

821
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: He can't go over speedbump.

822
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 3: No, he's going at an angle over the speed bump.

823
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: So also, by the way, he had a handgun with

824
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: fourteen bullets in the magazine and yeah, one in the chamber.

825
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sure.

826
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: The monk didn't deny any of this. Instead he goes,

827
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: I am the victim here. Yes, the senior monk told

828
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: the police that, yes, he was a courier for the

829
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 3: local drug kingpins. That was true, and all told he'd

830
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: been paid about three hundred thousand tie bot, which is

831
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: a roughly equivalent to ten thousand dollars US. Okay, The

832
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: deal was he would drive the van through checkpoints, knowing

833
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: that the local police would never question a minivan driven

834
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: by a high ranking monk.

835
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

836
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: Right, So he's like, what's in the back, uh, books, prayer, rugs,

837
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: and the rod. Yeah. So this wasn't his first run.

838
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: He'd done it twice before he got caught. So he

839
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: pleads poverty when the cops bust him, He's like, I

840
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: need the money, man, I got my studies and they're expensive,

841
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 3: and so they worked me over and I said I'll

842
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: take the money.

843
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 9: No.

844
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 3: So his story isn't my favorite though, yet, because I've

845
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: got more. There was the story of a flashy monk

846
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: who drove around at a brand new BMW while he

847
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: ran meth. I don't know how he thought he wouldn't

848
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: get caught. There's a lot of meth in Thailand apparently. Yeah,

849
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: he's like I used to hear about the goal like

850
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: Thai speed whiskey. They've moved on to just mess thills.

851
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: So it's twenty eighteen right and up in the northeastern

852
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: province of Colisne, Thailand. This dude is roaming around and

853
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: is like flashy BMW ferrying meth for the local drug card.

854
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: When the police busted him, he had eight thousand red

855
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: speed pills and plastic baggies, along with some pot, some

856
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: crystal meth, not one, not two, but three handguns because

857
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: I guess he was a bad shot and he needed

858
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: a couple times.

859
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 7: Yeah.

860
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: He confesses that it wasn't just him, but his fellow

861
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: monks were all doing meth together, and I guess that

862
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: was like there what, Yeah, there was their secret to

863
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: reaching Nirvana speed meditation. Yeah. So also, by the way,

864
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: it turns out he wasn't really a monk so much

865
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: because he'd been a street criminal. First he thought, you know,

866
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: if I posed as a monk, that would be good cover.

867
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: So he joined up, put on the saffron robes and

868
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: then he started running met for the crew. Then now

869
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: he gets popped, He gets defrocked and expelled from the

870
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 3: order on that totally pulled down the whole order. Yeah, exactly,

871
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: as one police officer put it, quote, the suspect enjoyed

872
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: a luxury lifestyle with over ten million bots circulating his

873
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: bank accounts. He drove his BMW to deliver speed pills

874
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: and crystal meth to his clients, mostly nightclubbers. Now we

875
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: get to my favorite of these Buddhists behaving badly. This

876
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: one comes to us from twenty twenty one. Now, rather

877
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: than me tell you about this one, Elizabeth, I'd like

878
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: you to close your eyes my eyes, and I'd like

879
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: you to picture it. It's November twenty twenty one and

880
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: you are in the southern Thai province of Chumpong. You're

881
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: riding shotgun in a police truck. No sirens. There's just

882
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: the sound of the steady hum of the engine, the

883
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: wheels as they splash through shallow puddles that gather in

884
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: the ruts of the jungle road. There's also the speed

885
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: of the wind as it whips passed your open windows.

886
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: At the moment, your eyes are trained on the softly

887
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: swaying trees from a plantation of palm trees. It's a

888
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: rather idyllic scene. And you're working as an international journalist

889
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: for the BBC. You're on a ride along with a

890
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: squad of Thai police. They've decided to give you an

891
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 3: exclusive story to cover, one that maybe the local press

892
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't do fair justice. At the moment You're headed towards

893
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: a Buddhist temple that's nestled in the lush southern jungle.

894
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: The officer you're riding with says very little to you,

895
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: which is fine with you. You're busy jotting down notes from

896
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: what you recall earlier of the police briefing. So far,

897
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 3: this day has felt like a rare adventure. And then

898
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: you spot it, the spire of the central pagoda of

899
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: the temple complex. It competes with the jungle trees and

900
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 3: the palm tree plantation. The officer driving the police truck

901
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: smiles at you and points and says that's it. You

902
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 3: smile and nod back. The truck draws closer and closer,

903
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: until finally the line of police trucks drives right through

904
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: the open gates, and one by one, the truck's pull

905
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: to a stop. Cops spring from their vehicles and you

906
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 3: follow them, taking notes on everything you see. You even

907
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: lift your camera, the one dangling against your chest, and

908
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: you snap a few photos. Meanwhile, the police are all business.

909
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: They rush into the temple hall and they round up

910
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 3: the monks, who are deep in meditative prayer. The abbot

911
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: of the temple stands up and greets the police. He's

912
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: all smiles and offers a warm welcome. With his hands

913
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: pressed together, he approaches them. The monk's saffron robes are spotless.

914
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 3: The police are all business. They tell the abbot why

915
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: they've come. One cop lifts up a plastic container for

916
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: a urine sample, and he shakes it. The Abbot's warm

917
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: smile falls. You scribble more notes. After a quick exchange

918
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: between the police and the abbot, he and the other

919
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: meditating monks are led out of the temple hall and

920
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: brought outside, where they are lined up. Each monk is

921
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: handed a plastic container and told to fill it. The

922
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: monks look annoyed, dismayed, irritated, but they do as instructive

923
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 3: there before the watching eyes of the police. One by one,

924
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: the monks lift their saffron robes and fill the plastic

925
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: container with fresh, warm urine. Then they hamm the container

926
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: over to the waiting officers. The urine samples normally would

927
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: be sent to a lab technician, but instead the cops

928
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: place them on the hood of their police trucks, and

929
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 3: one by one the urine samples are opened. A chemical

930
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: is added. You ask the lead officer what they're testing for.

931
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: He nods and says methamphetamy, and then you watch as,

932
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: one by one the one the urine samples turn purple.

933
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: It's the telltale marker that the urine samples contain meth.

934
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: The lead officer gives the sign to a squad of cops.

935
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: They handcuffs the monks and the abbot, since even his

936
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: urine samples showed signs of met After the urine tester completed,

937
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: you follow the officers as they investigate the compound. You

938
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: snap photos as the officers scour their sleeping quarters. The

939
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: cops find meth pipes, You snap a photo of vat

940
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: The cops pull out of baggies of meth pills. You

941
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: snap pictures of that. The cops also find bottles of

942
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: urine from underneath the monk's beds. Who knows why those

943
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: are there? You dutifully snap photos of that too. The

944
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 3: evidence is all gathered up, bagged, tagged, and loaded into

945
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: the police trucks. At the gate of the compound, you

946
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: see locals watching the progress of this police raid. You

947
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 3: wander over to get quotes from the locals. You find

948
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: a man who speaks English. He tells you quote finally

949
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: the police have come. These monks are not good people.

950
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: You both watch as all of the monks and the

951
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: abbot are arrested and loaded into the police trucks, and

952
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: then he says something that staves with you. If all

953
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: monks were arrested and taken away along with the abbot,

954
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: who will do merit making? Now you ask what he means,

955
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: and he explains that the locals donate food and what

956
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: little money they have to these monks so that they

957
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: will spiritually protect the villagers. But now, who will do

958
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: spiritual battle for the locals? He says, these monks on

959
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: the meth are better than no monks at all. Oh no,

960
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: So there you go, Elizabeth, you just covered the story

961
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: of a whole Buddhist temple getting busted for being high

962
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: on even the abbot. A reporter for the Agency French

963
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: Press also covered this drug raid and they interviewed a

964
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: local village chief named turdsack Pudwana, who spoke of the

965
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 3: surprise of this drug bust as he told the AFP quote,

966
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: if you ask me, was I shocked? I could not

967
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: imagine all the monks in this temple were addicted. And

968
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: he later added, and I quote when those monks were

969
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: arrested for using narcotics, the villagers who still had faith

970
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: felt like they've been betrayed. And that's key, the ones

971
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: who still had faith. Yeah, these monks are eroding the

972
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: faith of the ninety percent of Buddhist population.

973
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: Like, look, it's either meth monks or no monks. It's like, well,

974
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: maybe maybe this time for no monks. Yes, that's the

975
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: best you can do.

976
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: How about the nuns? Can we give the nuns a shot?

977
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: Uns?

978
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: I haven't heard a single story but the nuns doing

979
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: the meth with the monks. So the punishments, by the way,

980
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: we're all swift. All of the monks and the abbot

981
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 3: were disrobed and kicked out of the monk could they're

982
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: losing monks as fast as they can. The locals chiefs

983
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: point though, those who still had faith, right, and they

984
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: felt like they had been betrayed. That's because you have

985
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 3: to understand how big a business Buddhism is in Thailand.

986
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: There are roughly forty three thousand temples which raise an

987
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: estimated four billion dollars each year from donations. What from

988
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: donations from poor poverished people. The government tosses in some

989
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: coins too, to the tune of about one hundred and

990
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 3: seventy million a year. But the four billion comes from

991
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: people who were like, they could really use this money,

992
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 3: just like.

993
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: The flashier ones get a lot of tourist money too,

994
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 4: like people who are like, oh, we want to do it,

995
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 4: but yeah, the port's mostly the locals like what they

996
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 4: can't afford to get exactly.

997
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's giving big time medieval Catholic church energy here,

998
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 3: so you know, like me buy an indulgence, but they're

999
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: getting no indulgence.

1000
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 9: You know.

1001
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: So when you have mets smuggling, meth pill popping monks,

1002
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: and monks paying off blackmail to keep their bad behavior

1003
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: secret and their love child behind doors, the people in

1004
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: the government they start feeling like fools essentially, right. Yeah,

1005
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: So the cops, they sure, they're trying to root out

1006
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: these bad monks, but the number of news stories I found,

1007
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: and the number of news stories that appear every year

1008
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 3: is really having an impact on the faith of these people. Sure,

1009
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: And so that means at this point a lot of

1010
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: the bad behavior gets overlooke because they don't want to

1011
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 3: keep growing the story and further embarrass the Buddhist monks

1012
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: it's the exact opposite of what you would hope they

1013
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: would do.

1014
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: Right.

1015
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: Like, for instance, I found some claim that cops will

1016
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: often work with the National Office of Buddhism to allow

1017
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: cover ups. Allegedly, the director of the nob he recently said, quote,

1018
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: right now, if monks commit wrongdoing, the National Office of

1019
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: Buddhism can only report that information and evidence to administrative

1020
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: monks to review. The monk process is slow, I must admit, right.

1021
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: So this is how I found the Serpico of Thailand.

1022
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: There is a true believer in both Buddhism and the

1023
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: law right, and he launches his one man undercover operation

1024
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: to run out bad.

1025
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: Monks totally right.

1026
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: So he entered the police. Lieutenant Colonel Sayumpu Kalu jichis

1027
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: radom okay right, He went and got himself ordained, and

1028
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: then he went undercover as a monk. No, yes, he

1029
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 3: put it quote being a police officer one has to

1030
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 3: be ready in both body and mind. The best thing

1031
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 3: for me was to try to become a monk.

1032
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: Yes.

1033
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: So, hiding out at the temple, he waited for the

1034
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: drugs to arrive and then he would bust everyone involved.

1035
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: I love it, as he tells a quote, I just

1036
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: covered myself with the rope. That way a weapon and

1037
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: camera could be hidden. Oh no, and hidden behind his

1038
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: saffron robes. He was able to bust two monks, two

1039
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: math dealers, and a bunch of drug smugglers. His one

1040
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: man operation lasted a few weeks, and he recounted the

1041
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: quote generally, the public appreciated what we did and admired

1042
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: us for eliminating an enemy of religion. So there you go,

1043
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 3: our little hope.

1044
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: Is this one man, one guy? He's the one man army.

1045
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the mini stories of badly behaving Buddhist monks.

1046
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: I love it.

1047
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: It's like they always say, the last refuge for the

1048
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: scoundrel is the church or in this case, the Buddhist temple. Yes,

1049
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 3: So what's so ridiculous takeaway here? Elizabeth?

1050
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: You know, I am just personally, this is just my

1051
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: own personal take my takeaway. I am distrustful. I do

1052
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 4: not trust people who broadcast their belief system. Yes, it's

1053
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 4: in such an in an aggressive way. And you've listed

1054
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: all these bad Buddhists. They are not good at being Buddhists.

1055
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 9: Yes.

1056
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: And I used to have a neighbor who was like

1057
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: that who all he did was like broadcast out that

1058
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: he was this Buddhist and it was like his business

1059
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 4: was part of that everything. Sure, and he was the

1060
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: most selfish, manipulative, like he had zero compassion. He's with

1061
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: you know, nasty gossip about.

1062
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: Other people in the building. Yure, horrible person.

1063
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 4: But yet it was such a part of like his

1064
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 4: broadcast identity. And so I think, if you really have

1065
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: a faith system and you believe in it and you

1066
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 4: think other people should have it and share it, if

1067
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: you just live the right way, and people be like.

1068
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh, what's your secret?

1069
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, and then ask, But if

1070
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: you go around and so you craft this identity.

1071
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: All these bad monks they had.

1072
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: This identity that got them all all power, all sorts

1073
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: of other stuff. But in the they're rotten at the core.

1074
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: They're just bad at it was there And what's your

1075
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 4: ridiculous takeaway?

1076
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: Thank you Elizabeth for asking, I actually have one. It's

1077
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 3: it's kind of ridiculous, But you know me, I side

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