Speaker 1: Look mad oh, I see you. Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, last culture, same room vibes.
Speaker 1: Although what's different it's time, there's something, there's a different flavor.
Speaker 1: Were in the down apartment with C Yeah, this actually
Speaker 1: is similar to last time, though, because we recorded in
Speaker 1: the Fire Island house that didn't have a C at
Speaker 1: that time. This house my apartment that I'm in, that
Speaker 1: house in Fire Island. Neither of those places are in
Speaker 1: the running for most iconic building or structure because the
Speaker 1: things inside don't fucking work well. They are in the
Speaker 1: running for biggest flap, biggest flop because the jester can
Speaker 1: we stay right here? Huh? I said, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: we come. Well, let's make the distinction between jester and
Speaker 1: a flop because people are kind of there's category fraud
Speaker 1: happening where people are, you know. Campaign By the way,
Speaker 1: we should say that the campaigning that's going on from
Speaker 1: the publicists now is really beautiful. Yeah, and there's politics
Speaker 1: at play and we love that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people really pushing for Rihanna
Speaker 1: to be best billionaire ever since she achieved billionaire status
Speaker 1: according to Forbes, and for her I just think, like,
Speaker 1: we don't. We're not gonna go with the obvious. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be some upsets in this race, Like we as
Speaker 1: the people who are giving out these awards, we may
Speaker 1: give it to Rihanna, we may not because it feels
Speaker 1: like maybe that's too obvious. Well, can I say? It
Speaker 1: feels like what everyone's doing is they're saying, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: now we have the best billionaire and that actually is
Speaker 1: something you never say. You don't ever tell us, don't
Speaker 1: ever ever ever tell us, don't ever tell us that
Speaker 1: obviously to a culture number sixteen, don't ever say obviously,
Speaker 1: don't ever tell us that that is so rude, because
Speaker 1: first of all, you don't make the you know what,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. This is not what a publicist does.
Speaker 1: No publicist comes in and has a reason for why
Speaker 1: that they feel their clients should earn the status. And
Speaker 1: if you come in here and say obviously, it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, why is it obvious? Why? Because Rihanna has
Speaker 1: had many hits, because she's iconic, sure doesn't mean she's
Speaker 1: the best billionaire. Make a case, make a case. She's
Speaker 1: barely even done anything with her billionaire status. Yet no
Speaker 1: no one up for any of these categories is implicitly
Speaker 1: like the obvious winner. There are no front runners. I
Speaker 1: don't I can't think of a single front runner in
Speaker 1: any category, can you know? I can't think of a
Speaker 1: single front runner or for any category. Although I do
Speaker 1: think that there was an incredible I saw someone say
Speaker 1: aqua marine was the most colorful color and getting a
Speaker 1: lot of marine is getting a lot of buzz. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't say that's the front runner, but
Speaker 1: I definitely like, see. This is the thing is like
Speaker 1: a lot of the publicists have been doing a really
Speaker 1: good job because we're saying, yes, the publicists. Do you
Speaker 1: think because I made it official on the Twitter, I said,
Speaker 1: from now on, readers are the readers? Are the publicists? Well? Yes,
Speaker 1: during this era we're calling the last Scholas Cultural Awards era,
Speaker 1: you're not readers anymore? Is it? How? How is it
Speaker 1: tied to the error or do we think that they're
Speaker 1: just the publicists until the campaign is over, until awards
Speaker 1: season is over. I think in this era of the
Speaker 1: award lost culture Awards season era is not the season. Okay,
Speaker 1: then you're so right, and during the season they're publicists,
Speaker 1: but then we go they go back, they go back
Speaker 1: to being readers, and they'll always be readers. Only during
Speaker 1: awards season will they be publicists. And the awards season
Speaker 1: of Lost Culture is of course the last part of
Speaker 1: July August and then to be determined, because we still
Speaker 1: don't know when the awards will be, isn't that right, Bo,
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. We don't know. We don't know, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the beauty of Lost Cultures a Culture
Speaker 1: awards is that these are unprecedented in so many ways.
Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be a Wednesday drop. I
Speaker 1: think no one's gonna expect it. It's just gonna be
Speaker 1: a Wednesday drop. But I think there will be a
Speaker 1: sustained campaign from the publicists until the award shows, until
Speaker 1: the until the awards are announced, and so there's no
Speaker 1: such thing as least expecting it, because I think the
Speaker 1: publicists are working so hard that they will always be
Speaker 1: expecting it. We are just blue bawling them until that
Speaker 1: Wednesday drop, and we don't know when that is yet.
Speaker 1: But I think for as long as the awards don't
Speaker 1: get announced, there will be publicity, there will be campaigning.
Speaker 1: At least there should be. I think they need to
Speaker 1: keep up this fervor and at all times because you
Speaker 1: don't know when the awards will be. So what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is on Twitter, you should be if you really
Speaker 1: are feeling passionate about a category, you should be tweeting
Speaker 1: that every day. Yes, I want to look at your
Speaker 1: feet and see only for your consideration hashtag l C
Speaker 1: A S and like I don't want to see other things,
Speaker 1: like I want to see you really campaigning. Because the
Speaker 1: Wednesday drop could happen anytime. It could be next week,
Speaker 1: it could be next week. It won't be next it
Speaker 1: won't be next week, and it won't be today because
Speaker 1: today and this week we are announcing. Can we spoil
Speaker 1: we're announcing the rest of the category. We are announcing.
Speaker 1: This is the rest of the categories, and there's some
Speaker 1: incredible ones. I think there are some of the most
Speaker 1: exciting ones. These are some of the best categories of
Speaker 1: all time. I don't disagree. I would never just agree
Speaker 1: with such a statement of my own. I how often
Speaker 1: do you disagree with yourself? Probably about the things I
Speaker 1: say I either hear later or right afterwards. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. That's but I would never admit
Speaker 1: that right away. Sometimes it's just good just to fill
Speaker 1: the air by saying something yes, yes, my life. But
Speaker 1: actually I would, I would, I would try to even
Speaker 1: lower that number, because there's something that's not even that
Speaker 1: valuable about, you know, turning your own critique within inward.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should really, I think you really
Speaker 1: should stand by everything more things that you say than
Speaker 1: you are now. Well, there's a difference between owning it
Speaker 1: and standing by it and disagreeing with yourself. And that's
Speaker 1: just that's just anyone that's sort of like taking a
Speaker 1: persuasive essay of course, or like you know, like an
Speaker 1: has done like an argument class, or like what would
Speaker 1: you call that speech and debate. Yes, knows that you
Speaker 1: often have to just be able to argue points that
Speaker 1: you do not believe in. That's also sort of politics too,
Speaker 1: that's also sort of politics. No, we let's get dark. Well,
Speaker 1: actually I want to point out something I'm on This
Speaker 1: ContraPoints kick as people know. Um, she said something in
Speaker 1: this misrecent quarterly release. She she drops these like ours,
Speaker 1: she is for the girls, that she's Natalie Whin, she's
Speaker 1: this like philosophy, she was an academ and no, she
Speaker 1: was like she was, she was like getting like her
Speaker 1: master's anyway. But now she like she's on YouTube. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm sure some people already already like just die hard fans. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a very active community around uh what she does,
Speaker 1: and like there's just fun like aesthetics to all of
Speaker 1: her videos anyway. Um, but she said something, I mean,
Speaker 1: I won't contextualize what it what it is, but she says,
Speaker 1: you notice the feeling, but you don't have to endorse it,
Speaker 1: which is totally unrelated to like what she actually talks
Speaker 1: about in her most recent video, which is about envy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to watch it. You to Gina, well,
Speaker 1: what did I call you before a Porsche today? Your
Speaker 1: name was Porscha. I don't know why might supposed to
Speaker 1: call you a portion today? It was well, and also
Speaker 1: we're going to get into some name ship later. It
Speaker 1: was one of the categories has to do with names.
Speaker 1: So let's just say, you know, to be continued with that,
Speaker 1: putting a pin in that though for now, as you
Speaker 1: often do when you want to return to something later. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: I was really thrilled with what you told me before
Speaker 1: about what was it the Dionysus and the Apollo. Could
Speaker 1: you explain that and how it how it sort of
Speaker 1: lends to the black Swan narrative as I call it.
Speaker 1: She brings up so the whole the whole thing is
Speaker 1: about envy and about how envy is like weaponized into
Speaker 1: like morality in a lot of ways and politics and
Speaker 1: in the world, and so like she talks about like
Speaker 1: um fire. She begins with fire Festival, being like that
Speaker 1: was like the funt that was one of the best
Speaker 1: stays on Twitter because it was shot and freuda on
Speaker 1: this huge scale, Like look at all these like influencers
Speaker 1: and rich people suffering UM, and like at the root
Speaker 1: of that is like or or or you know, like
Speaker 1: at the root of that is envy in a way, right,
Speaker 1: It's like some people were like in some ways envious
Speaker 1: of the people who got to go maybe not completely,
Speaker 1: but like that's like that's the root UM. And then
Speaker 1: she talks about how envy is this like timeless universal
Speaker 1: it's it's this human thing. And then she brings a
Speaker 1: Black Swan because that's that that story is about envy
Speaker 1: in a way, like her mother envies her um when
Speaker 1: no no writer and envies her in some ways mean
Speaker 1: lookunas envies her, like the woman the dancer that she was,
Speaker 1: like the actress who calls her like a bit or
Speaker 1: something at one point, like after like the cast list,
Speaker 1: after she gets like casts like the black and the
Speaker 1: White swan, like there's a random girl who goes up
Speaker 1: and it's like you fucking bitch, or the horror on
Speaker 1: the me, you know, like it's it's a movie about envy, right,
Speaker 1: and she also like she as a character that envies
Speaker 1: so much about Mila Kuniss effortlessness and she and she
Speaker 1: she wants and wants and wants so much and so um.
Speaker 1: Then Natalie starts to talk about Natalie Win, not portant,
Speaker 1: not importman. Natalie Win starts to talk about, um, this
Speaker 1: like this other model of envy, which is like in
Speaker 1: SpongeBob between squid word and SpongeBob, squid Word and the
Speaker 1: SpongeBob in a way because you know they both work
Speaker 1: at the same place and yet squid word envy SpongeBob's
Speaker 1: like childlike nature in a way. And she said, she
Speaker 1: points out something really interesting, which is that like growing
Speaker 1: like people my age when they watch SpongeBob, as kids
Speaker 1: are growing up, they identified with SpongeBob, and now what
Speaker 1: happens is when they watch SpongeBob as adults, they identify
Speaker 1: with squid word. And so it's this thing of like,
Speaker 1: you know, as you age, like having your ambitions tempered,
Speaker 1: or like being like disappointed or beaten down by life anyway,
Speaker 1: and she then breaks it down along the lines of
Speaker 1: artistic impulses as defined by Natsch. I'm so sorry this
Speaker 1: is so annoying. There's Apollonian impulse, and there's Dionysian impulse.
Speaker 1: Either you're an Apollo or you're a Dionysus, and a
Speaker 1: lot of times it's the Apollos who had be the
Speaker 1: Dionysis is the diet whatever um. And it's that like Appollo,
Speaker 1: if you're an Apollonian artist that you like are are
Speaker 1: driven by like order and morals and like structure and
Speaker 1: like wanting to be perfect in a way and wanting
Speaker 1: to achieve an ideal or as if you're a Dionysian,
Speaker 1: you are like someone who just is carefree, driven by
Speaker 1: driven by instincts. I feel like that's you and me, babe.
Speaker 1: Well that's really really absolutely when you can really boil
Speaker 1: it down when you say that someone is the Melo.
Speaker 1: You are saying that they are giving onto their Dionysian
Speaker 1: instincts in a way that is um leading them forward.
Speaker 1: And then yes, clearly the Apollonian or he that has
Speaker 1: more to do with Natalie Energy, academic fish, the White
Speaker 1: and the Black. Yeah, you understand well then and then
Speaker 1: she and then she talks about how Black Swan is
Speaker 1: ultimately about if that character's journey is about her like
Speaker 1: embracing both, like finding both, like the Dynasian and the
Speaker 1: Apollonian actually plays the black in the White Swan in
Speaker 1: the same in the same show. And then like once
Speaker 1: she achieves that she dies, you know, right, that's I
Speaker 1: don't know, well, it's almost saying that in terms of
Speaker 1: like it's almost like an argument about nature, and it's
Speaker 1: like you really can't um pretend to be someone that
Speaker 1: you're not without at a cost. I guess is that
Speaker 1: would that be fair to say? Sure, like you have
Speaker 1: to like it's it's it's not it's not um it's
Speaker 1: not realistic or sustainable or something to like have it
Speaker 1: and like have it be like for you to inhabit
Speaker 1: like all of those things in one in one form.
Speaker 1: How did you find this person. Um our friend of
Speaker 1: the pod, Cody Silver introduced me to her. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: love Cody so much, Cody, check him. Check them out
Speaker 1: on Only Fans if you haven't already. Some of our
Speaker 1: greatest minds are only fans between Cody and Time Mitchell.
Speaker 1: Those are like to the smartest game in on the
Speaker 1: East coast, I think. And you're breaking it down by coast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what this landscape is like
Speaker 1: on the West coast, in the south along the Gulf,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. No, don't say that. You're being
Speaker 1: very flyover steady right towards me. Um. But anyway, you
Speaker 1: should watch You should watch them, babe. I would like
Speaker 1: to watch them. I I honestly like I spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time on YouTube, but I would love my
Speaker 1: landing page to be filled with things other than what
Speaker 1: it is. That's what I'm trying. I'm actively trying to
Speaker 1: make my algorithm like not think I'm a dumbass because
Speaker 1: it's all just like video game reviews and like Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift compilation video. It's like, it's not that those are
Speaker 1: bad things, just like I want to see something different.
Speaker 1: It's getting to the point where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I actually like sometimes maybe some readers will identify with this,
Speaker 1: but I will sometimes go to my landing page and
Speaker 1: then I'll think to myself like do I have more
Speaker 1: than three interests? And then I'm like, wait, this can't
Speaker 1: be true. I have to be interested in more things
Speaker 1: than these three things. Oh my god. This this literally
Speaker 1: happened to me like recently, where it's like I forgot
Speaker 1: that I was interested in this thing, which was for
Speaker 1: me like video. This is so stupid, like video. I
Speaker 1: was like, I forgot that I love like this stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's because like the algorithm is reflecting something back
Speaker 1: at you where you're like, I guess this is who
Speaker 1: I am, and then you begin to self identify that
Speaker 1: like that way, and then you're like, oh but wait,
Speaker 1: it's like reduced me down to like three things, which
Speaker 1: is like drag. Like my discover page on Instagram is
Speaker 1: a whole different thing where it's drag, race and Pokemon,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is that just feels wild to
Speaker 1: me because I feel like you don't talk about those
Speaker 1: things too much not but it's like I'm feeding the algorithm.
Speaker 1: I like tapping on these things, so It'll be like
Speaker 1: some stupid like Pokemon meme and I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess that's funny. Um, and then I'll just like hit back.
Speaker 1: Then I'm what I'm sort of returning to the algorithm.
Speaker 1: Is I like this? Give me more? Yeah? I wonder
Speaker 1: if I'm to go to my YouTube landing page literally
Speaker 1: right now, let's go, let's go, let's do this. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I just typed in YouTube dot com. Okay, so here,
Speaker 1: this is kind of crazy. It's one thing from the view.
Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema defends her support of the filibuster christ Christian
Speaker 1: Cinema is in the running for a lot of the
Speaker 1: j She's truly flopping. Um. And then there's an ABC
Speaker 1: News Dems holding Governor Cuomo accountable re establishes. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so you've got like culture accountability. I have some new stuff.
Speaker 1: And then I have this. Um, there's this gay named
Speaker 1: Adam who runs this YouTube page called up in Adam
Speaker 1: and he does like housewives, like news and Housewives. Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills producers are preparing to turn over to on aired
Speaker 1: footage of Erica Girardi to help the cases. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Then I have an access Hollywood thing, which is just
Speaker 1: in terms of mourning the death of his longtime backup
Speaker 1: singer Nicolehurst, which actually is a devastating story that this
Speaker 1: woman who was I guess one of the Tennessee kids
Speaker 1: and she passed. She has she had cancer and um,
Speaker 1: it's very sad. A lot of people in music or
Speaker 1: mourning her. Then I have, uh something from this is
Speaker 1: so embarrassing, and this is how I'm going to be
Speaker 1: vulnerable on this pod. I have Disney's Magical Express replacement pricing.
Speaker 1: So this is the I followed. I don't follow this,
Speaker 1: but it's called Mickey Views and it's like a theme
Speaker 1: park or Disney like update whenever there's like construction or whatever.
Speaker 1: And this is updating people that are freaks that go
Speaker 1: to this site about the Magical Express, which is the
Speaker 1: busting program replacement pricing. So I thought the Magical I
Speaker 1: thought I thought that bus service was free. Girl, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, Disney is going, let's get into this
Speaker 1: a little bit. Disney is a book wild because they
Speaker 1: you know how, they got rid of their annual pass
Speaker 1: so the Disneyland. So it was this thing called the
Speaker 1: Magic Key and the prices are insane it's like truly
Speaker 1: so much more expensive than it ever was, and it's
Speaker 1: like who can afford this stuff? Did you hear about
Speaker 1: there's like a Star Wars hotel that you can stay in.
Speaker 1: I think I told you about this in Disney World.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's called the Galactic Cruiser. And basically
Speaker 1: you go and it's a two day experience, and it's
Speaker 1: truly like for two adults, it's it's like really expensive,
Speaker 1: or maybe even more than that, maybe it's like forty eight.
Speaker 1: It's like a really really expensive. So it's a two
Speaker 1: day experience, and basically what it is is you go
Speaker 1: and you go into space and are basically staying on
Speaker 1: a on a galactic cruiser. Yes, so basically what they
Speaker 1: suggest the schedule, which is that you take a like uh,
Speaker 1: like a bust that's actually like a space transport into
Speaker 1: Galaxy's edge itself, and then they have you want to
Speaker 1: schedule like this is when you do Rise of the Resistance,
Speaker 1: this is when you do the Millennium. You do not
Speaker 1: have to book yourself. It's like one of the perks.
Speaker 1: But they basically like while you're in saying in the
Speaker 1: hotel over these two days, you interact with the staff
Speaker 1: who are obviously all in character, and you were supposed
Speaker 1: to live a Star Wars adventure. So for people that
Speaker 1: really want that next like almost like Westworldian step in admmersion,
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing now. And so on my YouTube
Speaker 1: landing page, I get constant updates about like what that
Speaker 1: say saying. Basically, my pull is when they I knew
Speaker 1: it was going to be so crazy expensive, So when
Speaker 1: they announced the pricing, I was like, who the fund
Speaker 1: can afford this? This is gonna be wealthy people only. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And also can we just talk about like what is
Speaker 1: the value in immersion anyway? Like I I'm fine with
Speaker 1: like a renfair thing, but I feel like, what do
Speaker 1: you like? Who cares if you like talk to like
Speaker 1: like staff who are in character. That's like my I
Speaker 1: like that, Like I like a very thin application of
Speaker 1: that somewhere like Disney World. But I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I don't I'm not gonna pay more money
Speaker 1: to like believe that I'm in a movie. You know
Speaker 1: what I counterpoint? I would say that is actually the
Speaker 1: part that makes it really memorable for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: And I think it makes it memorable for a lot
Speaker 1: of children. But I guess what I'm what I'm rubbing
Speaker 1: up against with this now, is it's so expensive that
Speaker 1: it's only going to be giving that to like a
Speaker 1: select handful of like very wealthy children. And I also
Speaker 1: think like it's the weird it's like weirdly like it
Speaker 1: seems like it's for adults. Um, but the immersion of
Speaker 1: it all, it's like, as long as it feels like
Speaker 1: you can still go off and do whatever the funk
Speaker 1: you want, Like I'm cool with them giving it a shot.
Speaker 1: Like if people want to pay for it and want
Speaker 1: that experience, like, go for it. But it does it
Speaker 1: would feel a little weird to me to be on
Speaker 1: a two day schedule. That's like, in order to get
Speaker 1: your money's worth, you have to follow this exact thing,
Speaker 1: because that to me would make me feel a little insane.
Speaker 1: And you are on vacation which is supposed to be relaxing.
Speaker 1: But then again, people who are very goaloring died and like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, checkpoint oriented, like maybe would like a vicuation
Speaker 1: like that. I'm saying the value prop for me is
Speaker 1: that you get to go, you get to go and
Speaker 1: rise of the resistance and not have to like get
Speaker 1: up literally at the ascrack and so yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: like a big part of it. I guess, like part
Speaker 1: you get to go on Rise of the Resistance um
Speaker 1: and not have to wake up at like seven in
Speaker 1: the morning and make a reservation online and like do
Speaker 1: the whole thing, which is also restrictive to people who
Speaker 1: don't have mobile phones, etcetera. But also I I don't
Speaker 1: know that I just the way you describe it to me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't really think I would want to.
Speaker 1: This is we won't go. We'll go say at the hotel,
Speaker 1: thank you? Where the where you don't have to follow
Speaker 1: any Swans story? Okay, Well, I'm just saying like even
Speaker 1: if you okay, like let's say you were to like
Speaker 1: pitch me like that experience for like Zelda, like something
Speaker 1: that I really love, I'm like, I'm not gonna pay.
Speaker 1: I don't care. But that's I guess where we forget
Speaker 1: people with Star Wars are I know, I now, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, But like there's also not a very high
Speaker 1: capacity at this hotel. So what's gonna happen is it's
Speaker 1: going to fill up? Ye see this is and then
Speaker 1: it's like why do we do it. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: like classic like marketing stuff. I don't I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, but it's like it's the
Speaker 1: reason why like ps fives are still hard to get it.
Speaker 1: But there's no actual real reason for them for them
Speaker 1: to like not manufacture more. It's just it's it's it
Speaker 1: fits into like a specific sales schedule for them. But um,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say at the end of the day, though,
Speaker 1: not to be like reductive, and I and we love
Speaker 1: the parks, but you're you're still like in like a
Speaker 1: fenced swamp, like that's all that that's all the Disney
Speaker 1: property is in Orlando. And I'm like, you, you might
Speaker 1: as well just like pay for like a nice luxury
Speaker 1: hotel experience. That's great, But to like theme it so aggressively,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that feels scary to me. I think it's
Speaker 1: just not for you. And I no, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: and I think that for the people it's for, that's great.
Speaker 1: It's just it's so expensive like that. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is not available to everyone. And if I was someone
Speaker 1: who was in like a low income family or even
Speaker 1: the middle income family, and I wanted to do this
Speaker 1: and I saw what it was priced that it would
Speaker 1: just demoralize me. It's great and like that's and I
Speaker 1: I really you know what, I almost hesitate to say
Speaker 1: this because they own everything, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Disney is so about the bottom line that it's just
Speaker 1: it feels a little like everyone's about the bottom line. Well,
Speaker 1: everyone is about the bottom line, especially as we move forward,
Speaker 1: and like you you it becomes more and more clear.
Speaker 1: But like but then anyway, anyway, regardless, there is a
Speaker 1: live Tyler Architectural Digest home Tour which I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to watch that. Um and there is
Speaker 1: actually shout out to Trixie Mattel. I have the pits
Speaker 1: stop UM All Stars six episode eight to watch with Raja.
Speaker 1: This is not that damn it. This is like you
Speaker 1: have a pretty good no. Yeah. Then there's a Clarkson
Speaker 1: It's Quiet Uptown from Hamilton's cover. If I refresh, it
Speaker 1: says what um uh oh bang bang my baby shot
Speaker 1: me down live from live live Goga performance. We have
Speaker 1: to talk about that happen before we get into all that.
Speaker 1: Please tell me what's on your YouTube landing page is
Speaker 1: it damning my Probably my first one is um because
Speaker 1: I have like thirty seconds left in the in the
Speaker 1: Envy ContraPoints is that contra points video. My second one
Speaker 1: is a recipe for Korean boogogie bowl um from this
Speaker 1: YouTube Chuff. I really like. Her name is marian Um.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not some kin long gust and it's
Speaker 1: not monchy. Those are like two other really popular YouTube
Speaker 1: Korean YouTubers that I really like. Anyway, my my YouTube
Speaker 1: is mostly like recipes, even though I don't fucking cook.
Speaker 1: But but can you admit to watching a lot of
Speaker 1: food related recipe stuff on so okay? That's kind of
Speaker 1: interesting and cool? Are you? Are you sort of trying
Speaker 1: to dip your toe into the No, I'm just like
Speaker 1: it brings me great comfort. It's like it's like to
Speaker 1: watch it happen. It's like it's it's kind of this.
Speaker 1: I understand why people watch like muk bung videos of
Speaker 1: people eating things. For me, it's like, I really am
Speaker 1: relaxed by people making food. We have to watch cooking
Speaker 1: with Paris. I hear it's like not a cooking show
Speaker 1: that well, I hear it's someone posted before just like
Speaker 1: She's sitting with Kim Kardashian eating something, and it was
Speaker 1: Kim takes a bite of something and looks at her
Speaker 1: and goes like this like she's enjoying it so much,
Speaker 1: and her face is just like, oh my god. I
Speaker 1: just like watching them eat was like really satisfying. The
Speaker 1: like she sat down and ate something with You would
Speaker 1: like muk bong and you would you like watching people
Speaker 1: eat things? I think, I well, then I well, here's
Speaker 1: the deal. I get so hungry. No, me too. I
Speaker 1: always get hungry when I watch the cooking videos and
Speaker 1: I want that, and you're probably happening at night. It's
Speaker 1: probably happening at night. But I even do this when
Speaker 1: I order like delivery for lunch or dinner, like I will,
Speaker 1: I'll order dumplings and then I'll look up dumpling videos
Speaker 1: and it's like so funny. They are really satisfying to
Speaker 1: watch a watch getting made dumplings. Yeah, yeah, like I
Speaker 1: believe on Beverly Hills earlier this seasoning Crista wasn't Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was so sweet. By the way, Crystal Kung Minkoff
Speaker 1: was on the podcast Andy's Girls, hosted by Sarah Gally.
Speaker 1: It was an amazing interview. She really gets into She
Speaker 1: really explains, I'm such a huge fan. We love her.
Speaker 1: I would like to reach out to her, out to
Speaker 1: her very first housewife, but she she um. So Rob
Speaker 1: came into the interview. I guess they were staying together.
Speaker 1: She was in New York to do Watch What Happens
Speaker 1: Live and do you know this? This gagged me. He
Speaker 1: did the original character design for Ursula. Oh my, he
Speaker 1: drew Ursula. So they were he said in the interview.
Speaker 1: He like popped in and talked about this. She hasked
Speaker 1: really amazing questions. Great job, Sarah, um. But he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, originally the character designed for Ursula was going
Speaker 1: to be very Joan Collins. Well, they and then that
Speaker 1: design ended up being in the second movie as Morgan
Speaker 1: or sister. Yeah, so he said he has an idea.
Speaker 1: He I guess his roommate was like, um, this gay
Speaker 1: guy who would who was into divine and would dress
Speaker 1: up as divine. And he was like, we got into
Speaker 1: divine and like drew the very first image of Ursula
Speaker 1: as like a very volup. Yes. So Rob was an
Speaker 1: animator and he and he also worked. He wrote an
Speaker 1: early draft of the story for Beauty and the Beast,
Speaker 1: and that's why by doing all that stuff, they gave
Speaker 1: him the responsibility of directing the Lion King. But he
Speaker 1: robbed Minkoff. Crystal, the Kung Minkoff's husband is why we
Speaker 1: have Ursula the way we have her, and probably why
Speaker 1: Pat Carroll was cast. God, that's so great. And she
Speaker 1: she went so into like how she used the word violated,
Speaker 1: because when I fully am on crystal side, she really
Speaker 1: opens up about how hard it is with the eating
Speaker 1: disorder and her body image to be on the show.
Speaker 1: And she they had such an emotional conversation. It's I
Speaker 1: really recommend listening. We love Crystal. I'm sure we talked
Speaker 1: about this on the Pond maybe. But if I'm Chris,
Speaker 1: if I'm naked in a room and then someone walked in,
Speaker 1: walked in and didn't immediately withdraw or like close the door,
Speaker 1: if if like Sutton kept walking into the room even
Speaker 1: to quickly drop the thing off, I would have been like,
Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? It's it would be
Speaker 1: so upsetting to me anyway, especially when you take into
Speaker 1: account like the specific issues that Crystal deals with which
Speaker 1: she has um elaborated on on the show a little bit,
Speaker 1: but has really got into on this one episode of
Speaker 1: the podcast. If you're a fan, you should listen. Um
Speaker 1: was was really really great, but I couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: he was responsible for all that. I just thought that
Speaker 1: was so cool, and he was like, yeah, I'm like
Speaker 1: truly a kid at heart and a nerd and like,
Speaker 1: you know, like, and he seems very cool about her
Speaker 1: being on the show. Artist. He's like, really, okay, what's that?
Speaker 1: What else? What else? Um? I have a play through
Speaker 1: of the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles. It's this game I'm playing. Um.
Speaker 1: It's a courtroom game. It's the Japanese game AIM where
Speaker 1: what would you play as a lawyer? I love that
Speaker 1: And it's so fun and it's like and you're supposed
Speaker 1: to like there's like an investigation part, but you're supposed
Speaker 1: to look for clues and evidence and then you have
Speaker 1: to bring it to court and then present and you
Speaker 1: have to like it's almost always about taking one villain
Speaker 1: down who's like making you seem like the bad guy.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so satisfied. Um, Okay. Then I have
Speaker 1: uh New York film Academies Q and A with Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Olsen I have so much. I have a lot of
Speaker 1: Elizabeth like um, and then okay, I have four more.
Speaker 1: I have the hot ones of Matt Damon. Unfortunately, because
Speaker 1: I watched Hot Oh my god, I had the hot
Speaker 1: one and I didn't say it. Shame and why is that?
Speaker 1: I didn't want to bring him up. I'm sorry, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's move ONCT. Yes you retract. UM. I have these
Speaker 1: two straight male doctors talking but dermatologists talking about exfoliation tips.
Speaker 1: That's that's my skincare YouTube blade. And then I have Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I always see SNL sketches because I'll just like, like
Speaker 1: you all wake up on a Sunday and be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I want to watch that sketchy and
Speaker 1: not even I'll be like, I want to watch that
Speaker 1: thing where Heidi plays the cocaine wife. I often get
Speaker 1: like Bowen Yang things and I'm like, is it because
Speaker 1: they hear me talking about it like it's so funny.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like, here's what Bowen did on s
Speaker 1: n l LST Night. I'm like, it's so funny that
Speaker 1: it knows. But I guess it would give that to
Speaker 1: any fag, not any fag, not the ones, not the
Speaker 1: ones who don't stand me. Um. And then maybe that's why.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why. And then I have a jerk chicken
Speaker 1: meatballs recipe from New York Times. It comes it's a
Speaker 1: lot of food. Anyway, I'm now seeing I have a
Speaker 1: lot of music, so I said Maggie Rogers performing say
Speaker 1: it on the Tonight show. Um. And also there's there's
Speaker 1: one headline that I have to say out loud because
Speaker 1: it's so funny to me, problematic roller coasters. And then,
Speaker 1: by the way, this one that says unforgettable moments from
Speaker 1: Megan McCain co hosting the View, which is from the
Speaker 1: Views channel and she is officially done, is especially out
Speaker 1: of there. I mean, what do we think her next
Speaker 1: chapter is besides being our producer producing the show, raising
Speaker 1: her daughter Liberty. That's right. She's just so on the nose.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so crazy. The daughter's name is Liberty.
Speaker 1: What do you know what like maybe maybe they'll call
Speaker 1: her Liberty. I just can't imagine being called Liberty. And
Speaker 1: then again, I'm not a McCain, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know. It's like she's even like on
Speaker 1: the nose in terms of like being a woman who
Speaker 1: has gay friends. It's like with the hair, it's like
Speaker 1: you're so so like like you're you're like an insect
Speaker 1: on the ground. You don't even have any perspective on
Speaker 1: like what things look like an inch above the floor.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I being so toxic. I mean, just the
Speaker 1: fact that the daughter was named Liberty. I was like,
Speaker 1: I really was, like, I mean, it's just it feels
Speaker 1: like who is it for. It's not for the not
Speaker 1: for the kid, like she has to live, it's for
Speaker 1: John on mccame. And that's just I guess that. And
Speaker 1: you know what the thing is, Sometimes it just feels
Speaker 1: like she's like stunting to prove a point or to
Speaker 1: be like, no, I actually do walk the walk. My
Speaker 1: daughter's name is Liberty, and it's like, yeah, but now girl,
Speaker 1: that girl's name is gonna be Liberty. That's I think
Speaker 1: that people don't sometimes understand that when you name your
Speaker 1: child something, your child lives with that name probably most
Speaker 1: of the time, I'm gonna say, at the time, for
Speaker 1: the rest of their life. Yeah, it's so funny now
Speaker 1: to be in a nage where like you'll you'll watch
Speaker 1: like Gwyneth Paltrow and an interview being like, yeah, Apple
Speaker 1: was saying this, and I'm like, oh, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: human being out there who has accepted the fact that
Speaker 1: their name is Apple, Apple Martin. And here's the deal.
Speaker 1: If this is this is actually something I really think.
Speaker 1: It's like if if you are someone with a name,
Speaker 1: if a last name that's like Martin, then you can
Speaker 1: get away with an exotic, weirdo first name. But like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, and who cares, Like, name your
Speaker 1: kid whatever the fun you want. I just want people
Speaker 1: to understand that when you name your daughter Liberty, like
Speaker 1: then she has to say, Hi, I'm Liberty. No, there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the name Liberty. I guess no, not
Speaker 1: Liberty McCain. Where I'm saying that Liberty dominance for Mega
Speaker 1: mccannaby who she is to name her daughter Liberty because
Speaker 1: it's in some ways it recalls like her lineage or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's what's upsetting to me. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're reminding us that your dad was a senator and
Speaker 1: that you are love America. It's so pathetic. Whatever. I
Speaker 1: just feel like, I don't know, it's just anyway she
Speaker 1: uh blessings to her, so well, work. We can't wait
Speaker 1: for you to work closer with us. We can't wait
Speaker 1: for your want to take even more firm hand on
Speaker 1: the going goings on of this podcast. Moving forward, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about another icon, blonde icon. Wait, were you
Speaker 1: disappointed that she didn't come out? So you guys, we
Speaker 1: went to go see Lady Gaga and Tony and she
Speaker 1: sang bang bang, which she did. She didn't come out
Speaker 1: of the black curli like, which I really wanted, I
Speaker 1: really wanted. But no, it's fine. She she I think
Speaker 1: she wanted to like keep it. I don't know, It's
Speaker 1: like simple, and I think she understood that this was
Speaker 1: like Tony Bennett's last concert. Oh my god, I can't
Speaker 1: believe you guys. It was so special. It was to
Speaker 1: really get real for a second. You you said this
Speaker 1: the other day, you were like, it was a historic content.
Speaker 1: Don't almost agree, which which I agree. It was an
Speaker 1: historic moment and his um. I will say, I think
Speaker 1: there were forties standing ovations throughout the night. Ult yes, so,
Speaker 1: and we were up for every single one of them.
Speaker 1: I will say, I think we lad some. I let
Speaker 1: her I literally left out on my chair, so many
Speaker 1: we we were so like lucky to be there, and
Speaker 1: I will so just to walk you through what happened readers.
Speaker 1: It was Tony Bennetts last night. It was Gaga came
Speaker 1: out and probably did like an hour right, and then
Speaker 1: she left the stage killing it. She's sang She ended
Speaker 1: with Lavan Rose, which was like huge, and she said,
Speaker 1: I would not have sung this song if Tony didn't
Speaker 1: tell me too. And then the indication there is like
Speaker 1: because Bradley Cooper saw Gaga saying that and it was like,
Speaker 1: you have to be in a stars like like I
Speaker 1: could tell the Gaga is basically communicating like I would
Speaker 1: not have maybe would not have gotten the Stars born
Speaker 1: if it kind of been for my friendship with Tony
Speaker 1: and she and she's sang it unbelievably. Well, you guys,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. If you don't love Lady Gaga,
Speaker 1: you don't love yourself. And I am I'm doubling down
Speaker 1: on a girl like she was absolutely alive in her performance.
Speaker 1: She's really one of the best we have. She like
Speaker 1: is a perfect vessel for like so much music history,
Speaker 1: and I think she was channeling and I'm not just
Speaker 1: saying this because of the coincidence of it all, she
Speaker 1: was channeling Barbara, she was channeling Judy like it is
Speaker 1: like that's like that's like the lineage, Like that's like
Speaker 1: the new supreme logic. I'm sorry, I'm sorry make that
Speaker 1: like reference. But it's like she is like she's carrying
Speaker 1: this legacy from now on. And then so so she's
Speaker 1: saying Lavian Rose. And then as a way of introducing Tony,
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm gonna bring out Tony Bennett. Now
Speaker 1: you guys have to make this a night he will
Speaker 1: remember that. Make him smile, make him laugh, make him
Speaker 1: feel at home. And she sang new York, New York.
Speaker 1: She's saying she and then she threw on this this
Speaker 1: jewel and crested top hat and fucking belted the ship
Speaker 1: out of New York, New York, fucking jumped around the stage,
Speaker 1: shookar asked, Sugar Tits did all of it? Just like
Speaker 1: got this room of thousands of people at Radio City
Speaker 1: just like camped to like welcome Tony Bennett. And then
Speaker 1: he came on stage. Didn't miss a single fucking no.
Speaker 1: This is something that you need to understand. So like
Speaker 1: when we say he did not miss a note, a word,
Speaker 1: and beyond that, just like an articulation, just like every
Speaker 1: word meaning something real, like real performance. Now, it was
Speaker 1: his ninety five birthday. The man is nine, so he's
Speaker 1: been doing this for like I'm going on eighty years.
Speaker 1: Understand that it's so in his body that it was
Speaker 1: just such a sight to behold. And I do believe that.
Speaker 1: You know, he's obviously in his very old age, like
Speaker 1: this was his last show. It's crazy to say that,
Speaker 1: but I think he has declined because he could really
Speaker 1: only say right, so he's he's he's obviously declined, but
Speaker 1: he could really only say in between songs like wow
Speaker 1: or beautiful or beautiful audience, And he couldn't really say much,
Speaker 1: but every word of every song was there, and you
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. When he's sang smile, Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: when I lost it for real. That's when I lost
Speaker 1: it for real. And then so he's performing and she
Speaker 1: comes out and he says, Lady Gaga and they then
Speaker 1: they sang about four songs together, and this was really
Speaker 1: the moment of the night. She turns to him and
Speaker 1: she says something along the lines of Mr Bennett, I
Speaker 1: just want to say, on behalf of everyone here and
Speaker 1: on behalf of everyone in the world that has enjoyed
Speaker 1: your music. Thank you so much for gracing us with
Speaker 1: your talent that has changed the world for the better.
Speaker 1: And you are one of a kind. You're a legend,
Speaker 1: you always will be and it would be my honor
Speaker 1: to escort you off the stage. And there it was
Speaker 1: just not a dry eye. And it was like two three,
Speaker 1: four minutes of like Gaga and Tony Watt slowly walking
Speaker 1: off stage together and everyone on their feet clapping, sending
Speaker 1: this man off and him waving goodbye. It was so surreal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just I got really emotional at one point
Speaker 1: because I was just like, this is truly a moment
Speaker 1: of like not not just exaltation, but this is what
Speaker 1: he deserves, you know what I mean. Like it's a
Speaker 1: true music legend and there are so few that have
Speaker 1: been done it for that long and it really just
Speaker 1: it made me so like proud to be This sounds
Speaker 1: so silly, but it made it's proud to be in
Speaker 1: the arts. It may be proud to be a New Yorker,
Speaker 1: it may be proud like to be a music fan,
Speaker 1: like and it really was. I don't take for granted
Speaker 1: that we were able to go there, like we are
Speaker 1: so lucky, unfortunately, like to be able to have seen that,
Speaker 1: because you know, these people are not here forever, and
Speaker 1: it's it's important to try to go out there and
Speaker 1: see that. Because I was so emotional, because I was like,
Speaker 1: this is truly a person who has impacted so many,
Speaker 1: who is getting the opportunity for people to scream their
Speaker 1: love for him and support for him. And she got that,
Speaker 1: she knew her responsibility. She took it so seriously that
Speaker 1: someone has impacted her so much, I think culturally, musically, socially,
Speaker 1: as a friend, you know what I mean. Like it's
Speaker 1: just so it was just a perfect night. There was
Speaker 1: um and shouts to Radio City for requiring proof of
Speaker 1: vaccination for everybody. Um going in wait, I want to
Speaker 1: read this thing. Apparently they're making a documentary and I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're filming it. They were filming it too. Um, but
Speaker 1: like there's there's gonna be like BTS stuff. There's there's
Speaker 1: just like passage from Okay, this is like from the
Speaker 1: a ARP. So the a RP like did some right
Speaker 1: up about Tony and Gaga, like leading up to this
Speaker 1: concert and like specifically with the focus on his battle
Speaker 1: with Alzheimer's. But okay, here, let me just read this,
Speaker 1: because I don't think we're ready for this documentary Tony
Speaker 1: was doing. But Tony was a considerably more muted presence
Speaker 1: during the recording of the new album with Gaga and
Speaker 1: raw documentary footage of the sessions. He speaks rarely, and
Speaker 1: when he does, his words are halting. At times, he
Speaker 1: seems lost and bewildered. Gaga, clearly aware of his condition,
Speaker 1: keeps her utterances short and simple, as it's recommended by
Speaker 1: experts in the disease when talking to Alzheimer's patients. You
Speaker 1: sound so good, Tony, she tells them. At one point,
Speaker 1: thanks is this one word response? She says that she
Speaker 1: thinks all the time about the Tony looks at her wordlessly.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that fun every night? She prompts him, Yeah, he says, uncertainly.
Speaker 1: The pain and sadness in Gaga's face is clear at
Speaker 1: such moments, but never more so than in an extraordinarily
Speaker 1: moving sequence in which Tony, a man she calls quote
Speaker 1: an incredible mentor friend and father figure, sings the solo
Speaker 1: passage of a love song. Gaga looks on from behind
Speaker 1: her mic her smile breaking into a quiver, her eyes brimming,
Speaker 1: before she puts her hands over her face and sobs like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is this is so like it's
Speaker 1: such a special, tragic but ultimately like that, the thing
Speaker 1: about that night was that it was joyful. It wasn't ever,
Speaker 1: it never really dipped into sadness. No, it did not.
Speaker 1: And that is a testament, I think, to the way
Speaker 1: to the tone that she said, yes and that was
Speaker 1: all her and I would say, you know, it's so
Speaker 1: easy to you know, it's funny, like it's actually her.
Speaker 1: I believe her grandmother says to her and the Joanne documentarations,
Speaker 1: just don't be maudlin. Yeah. I think that maybe it's
Speaker 1: something that she took from that experience, um, because she
Speaker 1: was so light and fun and you know, she was
Speaker 1: twirling in her gown. She had like three three costumes
Speaker 1: that she wore and they were all absolutely fantastic. Um
Speaker 1: And you know, he clearly just had so much fun
Speaker 1: watching her. And I think that it really was a
Speaker 1: tone that she said, because it is easy too when
Speaker 1: something is so sad, and there are a few things
Speaker 1: that are as sad as um alzheimer losing someone to
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's um or a degenerative disease like that, like Parkinson's,
Speaker 1: And it's in my family and I've seen it up
Speaker 1: close and it is and Boone as well, And I
Speaker 1: think that it's it's something that you know, you can't
Speaker 1: really explain until you go through it and you have
Speaker 1: someone close to you that's experiencing that. But truly, I
Speaker 1: think there is something to keeping things fun and keeping
Speaker 1: things light and keeping things clear. And the message of
Speaker 1: that evening was very clear, which was we're celebrating you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like and so that was, like
Speaker 1: I said, like we joke about iconic moments in culture,
Speaker 1: like and we're all tongue in check and stupid about it,
Speaker 1: but like, truly, that was a moment that was a moment,
Speaker 1: that was a moment in time for sure, one of
Speaker 1: the top. I think it's in the top. I think
Speaker 1: that's in the top. It's something I'll never forget you
Speaker 1: you honestly want to know. Like I I think that
Speaker 1: will be probably in my top five of my life
Speaker 1: thus far most memorable concert experience. It will be that
Speaker 1: when I saw Beyonce du four when she did her
Speaker 1: four Nights, I went with Colin Quarterpassy and like it
Speaker 1: inspired me so much and she was just so amazing.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know, like, uh I would I
Speaker 1: would have Mariah my first concert ever when she came
Speaker 1: out in her sailor look and said, do you like
Speaker 1: the ensemble? It was my first concert I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I was ten years old and I screamed like a
Speaker 1: fagon next to my dad and and Mathon's now I'll
Speaker 1: never forget it for as long as I live. But
Speaker 1: other ones too, But yeah, like that was it was
Speaker 1: one of those nights where I was truly sitting there
Speaker 1: and inspired, you know, yeah, oh I was fully inspired.
Speaker 1: I was like I just need like I just want
Speaker 1: to like I just I just I just I just
Speaker 1: I just want to like take in. I just want
Speaker 1: to observe her. I I don't know if you caught me.
Speaker 1: I looked over you a lot, and you were just
Speaker 1: like enjoying it. So I don't know if you ever
Speaker 1: caught me. Just like jaw dropped, just like I was
Speaker 1: just taking it. H I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's doing and study kept I mean when she put
Speaker 1: on her top half for New York, New York. She
Speaker 1: just like struck an angle and held it opposed and
Speaker 1: held it and then study just said she is so
Speaker 1: aware of her stage picture at all times, like that
Speaker 1: as a performer, she knows what she looks like on
Speaker 1: stage to other people. And that is like that sounds
Speaker 1: very like shallow, I guess, but it's so important. It's
Speaker 1: a show. It's a show. It's like she like is
Speaker 1: so seasoned already as a performer that she doesn't she
Speaker 1: it's so it's just so powerful. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: fucking I mean, I think people know at this point
Speaker 1: that like we both love Gaga, but like I've been
Speaker 1: like truly so obsessed since since day one. To me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something that like is going to get
Speaker 1: a lot of people like angry, like Gaga is Gaga
Speaker 1: is Like maybe like I'm gonna say, now, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say she was better than Ma Donna, But we
Speaker 1: don't have to get into that conversation. I just you
Speaker 1: know what I said the other day, and maybe this
Speaker 1: is sort of similar to what you're trying to checulate,
Speaker 1: which is I do believe she is our share I
Speaker 1: do believe she is a generational like talent who will
Speaker 1: last for as long as she wants to. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe if shares talents skew more towards the acting performance
Speaker 1: realm than Gaga's talent skew a little bit more towards
Speaker 1: the musical. I that I would say, maybe that's like
Speaker 1: a way to distill how they are different. But I
Speaker 1: believe that they're similar in so many like spiritual ways,
Speaker 1: like in terms of reinvention, in terms of being able
Speaker 1: to do so much. By the way, I think the
Speaker 1: House of Gucci trailer looks good and like camp, and
Speaker 1: I'd like good camp good. Yeah, yeah, I do not.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people think she sounds like
Speaker 1: Count Jocula. I think we should wait, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it is a crazy accent, but let's understand,
Speaker 1: we're going to settle into it and the movie is
Speaker 1: gonna be what it is, and I think it looks delish.
Speaker 1: We're all gonna see it. Yeah, I'll see you there. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I anything else we gonna talk about with Tony and Gaga,
Speaker 1: just that it was one of the best nights ever.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'll say he when He'll say again
Speaker 1: when he says smile. Um, just it's just one of
Speaker 1: the most beautiful things in the world. And I also
Speaker 1: knowing the state that he is in, and um, you
Speaker 1: know that he was able to still get that message
Speaker 1: out so beautifully and clearly. It's just it's like sometimes
Speaker 1: like you hear the right person sing the right song
Speaker 1: and it just it changes, like the way oh no,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's just speaking before by Beyonce.
Speaker 1: I mean that's my whole thing with school in life's
Speaker 1: like that, like, oh yeah, that was big for you,
Speaker 1: like like say, truly snapped me out of something dark,
Speaker 1: like a dark moment. Okay, My only note about the
Speaker 1: Gaga show was I did want her in a black
Speaker 1: curley wig and a red leather jumpsuit to sing Bang Bang.
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. Let's deliver on what we promised.
Speaker 1: Let's actually deliver on what we promised, because it's important
Speaker 1: to do that in life. And uh. We have the
Speaker 1: rest of the categories for the Lost Cultures to Culture
Speaker 1: Awards who as they say, whoo whoo as they day.
Speaker 1: So these are some great categories. When you say, I
Speaker 1: would say that these are some of the like we
Speaker 1: said in the top of the episode. These are some
Speaker 1: of the most iconic categories that have ever been announced,
Speaker 1: and I think that we've done really well so far
Speaker 1: and sort of covering all different areas, you know, best planet,
Speaker 1: best animal in the s best note ever saw, best picture,
Speaker 1: literal picture, best ascar, sort of smallest snub. We're covering
Speaker 1: the whole, all parts of culture, and we have gone
Speaker 1: even further with these, and I didn't think we could.
Speaker 1: I don't think we could get deeper. It's like when
Speaker 1: you swim out into the ocean and you think, I
Speaker 1: can't go further, but you shouldn't, but you keep going
Speaker 1: but you shouldn't. And I just want to say, you shouldn't,
Speaker 1: but you can always go further. You can always go further.
Speaker 1: There's actually a really culture number seventy seven in the ocean.
Speaker 1: You can further, but you shouldn't. And we have gone
Speaker 1: further in this sense. Okay, So we just want to
Speaker 1: clear there was some confusion. We announced a seventy third
Speaker 1: category on the episode Drop two weeks ago. It was
Speaker 1: not it was not a category we discussed on the episode.
Speaker 1: But Matt and I on the day as I made
Speaker 1: the graphics for the category list, I said, we have
Speaker 1: to throw in a category it will be the biggest
Speaker 1: award of the night. This is actually the biggest award
Speaker 1: of the night, and it is category number seventy three,
Speaker 1: and it's sort of iconic for the seventy third categories
Speaker 1: have any three questions vogue much um for it to
Speaker 1: be the biggest category of the night. But sometimes, like
Speaker 1: when the award show goes on for a very long time,
Speaker 1: you do have to throw in a big category in
Speaker 1: the middle there. So that's why number seventy three we
Speaker 1: do have the next category, next category, this is the
Speaker 1: go ahead Christina aguilera award for coming on this bitch
Speaker 1: mad as hell. Now, for the uninitiated, there was once
Speaker 1: a tweet which went as follows, Christina was at her lowest, fat,
Speaker 1: nasty and broke career in shambles. She came on this
Speaker 1: bitch maddest and then the link to moves like Jagger.
Speaker 1: This tweet has struck a cultural nerve every every gay
Speaker 1: sis man on the East Coast. We need to have
Speaker 1: a handle because that gets lost. Are you looking it up? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: so bone is gonna look up the sort of icon
Speaker 1: that tweeted this. This is this. This account is only
Speaker 1: it goes only by the letter lowercase J. The handle
Speaker 1: is at very thick vadge with four jays and the
Speaker 1: description is Harriet Tubman fan account. So they're an icon,
Speaker 1: They're a legend um and I hope they realize what
Speaker 1: they're called. I mean, eleven thousand likes on Twitter this,
Speaker 1: I mean, people really, really, really really responded to this.
Speaker 1: And this person is obviously a huge fan of Christina's
Speaker 1: bridge verse on moves like Dagger, which we can agree
Speaker 1: was definitely a cultural reset, and she came on this
Speaker 1: bitch matt as hell, and so this isn't where that
Speaker 1: honors that spirit of just being so motivated by her
Speaker 1: squalor that you are just gonna fucking give it to them.
Speaker 1: And in this case, squalor can mean true squalor or
Speaker 1: you have a cushy job on the voice for I
Speaker 1: don't know, twelve million dollars a season and a storied
Speaker 1: career as a pop star. And also, you are not fat,
Speaker 1: nasty or broke, You're simply Christy Aguilera. But the sentiment was,
Speaker 1: at her lowest, fat nasty and broke career in shambles,
Speaker 1: she came on this bitch, Matt as hell that sentiment
Speaker 1: it's poetry. Well we should just say that that is
Speaker 1: a poem. That is a poem. I mean there's a
Speaker 1: descansion de scansion. Let's just say that, Okay, and I
Speaker 1: Matt has Matt has already pitched a winner for this
Speaker 1: and I cannot disagree with him. So, I mean, publicists,
Speaker 1: please can paying for this event, like for this category
Speaker 1: as you would any other. But we already have a
Speaker 1: really really big contender for that. And of course every
Speaker 1: category will have three nominees. That's something that Bone's finding
Speaker 1: out now at the moment. We have a next category,
Speaker 1: America's Next Top Model. Talk about this. What does this mean?
Speaker 1: So sort of in the modeling industry, we have young
Speaker 1: girls sort of coming up, um, you know more Bounty America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you hear about them, the hot deeds, yes, the other
Speaker 1: hot deeds you hear about um, you know, Heidi Clue, clue.
Speaker 1: But this is America's Next Top Model. So you may
Speaker 1: have been aware of the show. I'm I was very
Speaker 1: aware of the show. Yeah. Same, But this doesn't doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to do anything with the show. This is
Speaker 1: a lost culture recess Cultural Award, Cultural award for America's
Speaker 1: Next Top Model. Now any anything that any rubric tyra
Speaker 1: graded on that's not necessarily us know, this is going
Speaker 1: to be our again subjective opinion that is informed by
Speaker 1: the publicists campaigning we have next category. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: more fashion, this is more fashion. Best dressed rhyme this
Speaker 1: one rhyme's best dressed in rhymes doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Speaker 1: I think it means, you know, someone who has this
Speaker 1: sartorial awareness, someone who I was just saying, the rhyme
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean anything, but I just rhyme doesn't Rhyme
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. Rhyme is usually meaningless, and so say that.
Speaker 1: But I just think it's fun that it's that there's
Speaker 1: a there's an internal rhyme there talk about this this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew it as a senior superlative. It's
Speaker 1: a senior superlative. You know, maybe it's something I mean,
Speaker 1: is there is there another setting for this? I want
Speaker 1: I was gonna say summer camp, but no, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that there could be a best dressed anywhere.
Speaker 1: Often you see in the pages of the Rags the Rags,
Speaker 1: well some then let's talk about this is this best
Speaker 1: dressed during a certain time, in a certain place, at
Speaker 1: a certain event. This is just best dressed overall. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's up to us. I think it is,
Speaker 1: is it? Because after the publicists convinced this is what
Speaker 1: I love about the Lost Culture Is Culture Award, It's
Speaker 1: not really up to us, even though we say it is.
Speaker 1: When we say it is, it's like we don't actually
Speaker 1: mean it. I think we're making the decisions for sure,
Speaker 1: But is it? Because look, I would just say for
Speaker 1: this I don't have a front runner the way I
Speaker 1: do for many of the other categories. In fact, I've
Speaker 1: already sort of suggested some winners to bowen. But you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's gonna be three nominees for every
Speaker 1: So this is one of those categories that's like it's
Speaker 1: a crowded field, a lot of really well dressed people.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a personal question, good, when you
Speaker 1: were in high school, how do you think you rank
Speaker 1: in terms of the best dressed thing? I was? I
Speaker 1: was in the gutter. I was you did not compete.
Speaker 1: I was really face I was faced down, covered in
Speaker 1: every kind of gross ship. When it comes to this category,
Speaker 1: I did not I didn't you were not address not
Speaker 1: a good dresser. Still, arguably I'm not. I think you're
Speaker 1: a great dress I'm wearing a T shirt and what
Speaker 1: are you thinking you're going to wear the Emmys? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, we're I don't. I'm I'm figuring
Speaker 1: it out. You're figuring it out? Because are you still
Speaker 1: unsure about what the what the whole? I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell is going to happen. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to ask, you know, did I ever tell you? I
Speaker 1: famously placed second for best Dressed? Really? I did not
Speaker 1: win a senior superlative. I placed second in three categories?
Speaker 1: What were the category best dressed? Attached at the hip
Speaker 1: with my best friend Kenny Donahue, shout out, love you baby,
Speaker 1: he's got a baby at home. He's got a baby.
Speaker 1: I just met the baby. And then and then most Athletic,
Speaker 1: and I lost to Malcolm Brown. Wow. Um, but can
Speaker 1: I just quickly say something about it? And you were
Speaker 1: most likely to become a SNL cast member, which was
Speaker 1: the fun which was the sort of um florid way
Speaker 1: of saying like funniest, like a class clown, but like
Speaker 1: it should have just been called class clown, because now
Speaker 1: I got to explain to people, No, it's not it
Speaker 1: wasn't about SNL really, it was mostly about pretty direct
Speaker 1: prompt for the for the voters, but most likely to
Speaker 1: be on SNL, and they felt that was you, and
Speaker 1: they were right. One of the smartest high schools in
Speaker 1: the country. That's that's not true. Girl girl girls like
Speaker 1: pretty much a girl. Oh my god, Marina um, but
Speaker 1: it's it's like the best dress was most likely to
Speaker 1: be on the cover of vote, Like that was our
Speaker 1: high school. So y'all worked on were doing the most.
Speaker 1: We were doing the most, to say, in terms of
Speaker 1: naming of the category. So I did not win a
Speaker 1: Senior Superlative, but then I did walk away with Problem King,
Speaker 1: so then you you did end up winning the end.
Speaker 1: But you know, so this envy thing is interesting. Sorry
Speaker 1: to bring bring up content points again, but she talks.
Speaker 1: She brings up how in a lot of studies, bronze
Speaker 1: medalists are overall happier than silver medalists because they're they're
Speaker 1: just the bronze medalists just happy to be there. Silver
Speaker 1: includ me. They say, silver medalists are like, I was
Speaker 1: so close to getting the gold and that is like envy,
Speaker 1: sort of like coming up and like truly polluting your
Speaker 1: whole mindset and being like, well, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: happy even though I did objectively better than the bronze medalist.
Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? And also like, honestly, at bronze you
Speaker 1: can look at and it's like some some variation of gold,
Speaker 1: whereas like a shade of gold, it's a shade of gold.
Speaker 1: And so if you have someone over the house, you know,
Speaker 1: and your your medalist hanging over, they could sort of
Speaker 1: scan over and be like, oh my god, that's a
Speaker 1: gold medal, and maybe they don't ask about it because
Speaker 1: they saw the bronze. If you see a bronze medal
Speaker 1: in the distance, I will have to squint or walk
Speaker 1: closer to make sure it's not wrong than not gold.
Speaker 1: It could be gold. But if you see a silver medal,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, silver is that kind of play? Silver?
Speaker 1: That's actually a culture number thirty three. Silver is iconically silver,
Speaker 1: unmistakable with anything else, not even gray. No, it's not gray,
Speaker 1: and it's not even it's not even like people think
Speaker 1: that silver and gray are like, you know, like companion
Speaker 1: like colors or or you know materials. Now, do you
Speaker 1: want to know the queerest thing I've ever done? What
Speaker 1: I was five years old and there's a video of me.
Speaker 1: It was like a like a bus safety thing, like
Speaker 1: we all have to go in one by one and
Speaker 1: like we all have to like go in walk and
Speaker 1: like answer questions from someone about about Like if a
Speaker 1: stranger ever came up to you, what would you say?
Speaker 1: So they asked you a series of questions and I go,
Speaker 1: what's her name? And I said Matthew And they said
Speaker 1: what what's your favorite um food? And I don't I said, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like to eat a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff cheeseburgers. And they were like I I like, I
Speaker 1: have a look in my eye like I didn't like this.
Speaker 1: I don't like being questioned. So they said what's your
Speaker 1: mom's name? And I said, Katrina. What's your dad's name, Richard?
Speaker 1: Do you have a little sister, yes, what's her name? Chelsea?
Speaker 1: And then they said do you have a best friend?
Speaker 1: And I said I have a lot of friends And
Speaker 1: they said who is your best friend? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't pick And they're like, what do you do
Speaker 1: with your friends? And I go they play with them.
Speaker 1: I play with them, they play with me. I literally
Speaker 1: said it like that, I play with them, they play
Speaker 1: with me. It was very New York. So then they
Speaker 1: ask what's your favorite color? Without missing a beat, I
Speaker 1: go silver. Oh my god, I've never been so Julio
Speaker 1: Torres found dead. I was first. You were clear? Clear?
Speaker 1: Is this very clear? But that is this is very
Speaker 1: much the same wavelength you silver. You had this like
Speaker 1: confidence in that moment, not competent. It's the only video
Speaker 1: I want to find. I don't know where it is.
Speaker 1: I know we have it somewhere, but I was shocked
Speaker 1: watching it when I said silver, because I would never
Speaker 1: think to say that, but silver is my favorite color.
Speaker 1: You're still you're a silver bitch, queen, And I know
Speaker 1: what You're just talking about the negatives of being silver.
Speaker 1: Not number one, No, that's that's like that's really like
Speaker 1: on a performance, competitive of it, but in terms of
Speaker 1: the aesthetic, in terms of the look, you are silver.
Speaker 1: I believe that I am silver and you are gold.
Speaker 1: And that's not even like online it's pejorative, but it's
Speaker 1: not like, oh, like one's better than the other. It's
Speaker 1: just that like we all actually are two sides of
Speaker 1: the same coin, a coin we don't know as Pokemon
Speaker 1: made clear Pokemon gold and silver. Say that silver is
Speaker 1: arguably in some ways silver is better than some ways
Speaker 1: gold is, but there are equals. So I would say
Speaker 1: that you are gold and I am silver, and I
Speaker 1: am famously red, and you are blue. Yes, that's what
Speaker 1: we were in cult wares. And then when Pokemon yellow
Speaker 1: came in, I was just like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that's yellow? Study is yellow, studious crystal? Because it was
Speaker 1: it was the gold, silver and crystal. Sudi is yellow
Speaker 1: and crystal. I'm red and silver and you are gold
Speaker 1: and blue. How does it we? It's energetic, It's energetic,
Speaker 1: and I love this. We have the next category. This
Speaker 1: is the National Park Award for Nature. The National Parks
Speaker 1: represent nature absolutely better than almost anything else. I closed
Speaker 1: my eyes and I think of nature. I think the
Speaker 1: National Parks, many of them. But this isn't We're not
Speaker 1: honoring the National Parks. We're We're saying that there something
Speaker 1: out there needs to be awarded for the way it
Speaker 1: represents nature, for the way it even exemplifies and is
Speaker 1: the best of nature. What do you think that? Do
Speaker 1: you think this is. So this is a general category.
Speaker 1: Be tree, it could be a creek of rock, an animal.
Speaker 1: I think it could be anything that appears in nature.
Speaker 1: And it's this happens to be named after the National Parks.
Speaker 1: This is the National Park Award for Nature, the best nature,
Speaker 1: the nature that screams nature, the most not most natural nature,
Speaker 1: most natural nature. It could be water, it could be
Speaker 1: a plant. It could bear the sun does the sun
Speaker 1: and competitive perchance while it sort of gleams over a
Speaker 1: gorgeous forcechance. Let's let's see. This is an exciting category.
Speaker 1: This is one of the most exciting categories of them all.
Speaker 1: Not the biggest category of the night, but I think
Speaker 1: because they're so many competitors, I'm gonna be really looking
Speaker 1: forward to saying what the three nominees are. I think
Speaker 1: there are some birds that can be double nominees for
Speaker 1: Dan Burr Best Dan Bird and for the National Park
Speaker 1: Award for Nature. Oh my god, I mean double nominees.
Speaker 1: Keenan Thompson found dead, eight Bryant found eighty. Bryant found
Speaker 1: dead in a ditch. We don't want well, that made
Speaker 1: me sad. We don't want to live forever. Please, both
Speaker 1: of you Okay, this we haven't act to do. The
Speaker 1: next category, best dress, not a rhyme, a slant rhyme,
Speaker 1: maybe best in dress. Almost this is a different category
Speaker 1: than best dressed. This is the best dress of them all.
Speaker 1: But it's not in the time, It's not in the
Speaker 1: category title because there's some there're some categories as we
Speaker 1: know that have of them all. One of them is
Speaker 1: coming up, one of them is coming up. But this
Speaker 1: is just best dress, best dress. So interpret that how
Speaker 1: you will publicist things that are not included in this category. Pants, pants, suits, shorts, shirts, hats, gloves, socks, shoes, bops. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to know none of that. This is
Speaker 1: best dress. And let's just I'm gonna get really close
Speaker 1: up on the mic. No skirts, no skirts dress. The
Speaker 1: next category the Jim and Pam Award for best Chemistry. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean kind of our generations, you know, Sam, Diane, Hello, Um.
Speaker 1: I think this will get a lot of publicist horny.
Speaker 1: I think of chemistry. I think it's got to make
Speaker 1: me horned up. I think I have to be watching
Speaker 1: them and say, oh my god, are they gonna By
Speaker 1: the way, let me stop everything right now and say
Speaker 1: that I might have been, you know, sort of part
Speaker 1: of a little table read the other day for a
Speaker 1: certain script. I can't really say much about it because
Speaker 1: that hasn't really been announced everyone's participation. But I know
Speaker 1: you're in a film called Fire Island. There was some
Speaker 1: chemistry popping off between whom, between many of the actors.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit. It's a comedy, a good chemistry.
Speaker 1: I thought. My sisters has some good chemistry with their
Speaker 1: love interest. Some fine looking men that the readers may know,
Speaker 1: and perchance we might even have to have guests on
Speaker 1: this show. I think we will. I encycle the boys.
Speaker 1: It's a room full of gay man that's kind of fun,
Speaker 1: but like iconic by b coon Um friend of the famously.
Speaker 1: So I think, are you saying that people in this
Speaker 1: project are competitive in this category? I don't know, Countess
Speaker 1: Luanne slash Grover Um. Uh, we're going to find out. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. Grover Grover so cute one of
Speaker 1: the love grow Yeah. Absolutely we next category, Okay, Tik
Speaker 1: tac Toe Awards your best simple Game. This is the
Speaker 1: Tic Tac Toe Award for Best Simple Game. The best
Speaker 1: games are the simplest, Absolutely King tettress, Mama Tecto Ti
Speaker 1: Tacto doesn't win. Connect four. Connect I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I literally I did the motion to my sister and
Speaker 1: he knew immediately what I was saying. Connect four. That's
Speaker 1: what I love. Um, you know, it's not a simple game.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to drag it, but chess you have to
Speaker 1: sit down and learn it. Checkers, simple games, simple game. Chess.
Speaker 1: Too many girls doing different things. Yeah, I thought, you man,
Speaker 1: too many girls doing it. I was like, no, that's
Speaker 1: the whole plot of the Queen's gamb It is not
Speaker 1: enough girls. Let's just say that. Let's say it's rule
Speaker 1: culture number. Not enough girls in chess, women in stem
Speaker 1: more like women, women in chess. Let's keep that's a
Speaker 1: little of culture number ninety nine, women in stem more
Speaker 1: like women, more women in chess. We have next category,
Speaker 1: best song on rent soundtrack, original broadwaycast recording, or the
Speaker 1: film movie soundtrack. It looks like it's not specified. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it could be Rosario Dawson's version of out Tonight.
Speaker 1: It could be Daphne Ribbon Vega's version about Tonight. And
Speaker 1: that's actually the binary. That's your Rosario Dawston Out tonight,
Speaker 1: which is which is which is Dionysus? Yes, and then
Speaker 1: or your Daphne Ubon Vega which is Apollo. No, I
Speaker 1: would feel like Daphne is just so like it's just
Speaker 1: we're sorry to say Daphne is Rosario an incredible meaning
Speaker 1: I thought she was an amazing MEMI. And here's the reveal.
Speaker 1: The reason why this is on this list is because
Speaker 1: I listened to Rosario Dawson's tonight. It's an amazing and
Speaker 1: she killed it. Mrs Corey Booker booked that book did
Speaker 1: that rent? Mrs Corey Booker booked that at that for
Speaker 1: a second you met like you referred to Corey Booker
Speaker 1: as mrs. And he said, Cory Booker boot to that
Speaker 1: as inn booked to that that companion. You know, Corey
Speaker 1: Booker is apparently really committed to being a straight icon.
Speaker 1: Love it love for her girl. Now, okay, this is great,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry I should say Rosario is Apollo because
Speaker 1: there's such a precision to her Mimi, and also she
Speaker 1: carries with her I believe the intelligence to say nothing
Speaker 1: of Daphnie ruby Vega, but I do believe it's like
Speaker 1: if I'm just stand for a second, Daphne reuben Vigga
Speaker 1: comes from here. Yeah, day, It's like it's like a
Speaker 1: pelvic thrust of stage presents like her and in the
Speaker 1: Heights fabulous, but it's Dianey, It's dion her as meani
Speaker 1: as dionys In because it's just like, hey, it's like
Speaker 1: like a little sex path and like and Rosaria's Mimi
Speaker 1: is more like hey, I really like you. She's more thoughtful,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, whereas whereas Daphne ruben Vega is more
Speaker 1: guttural and that is an important yes, SpongeBob, and then
Speaker 1: and then Rosario's squid word, thank you, thank you, And
Speaker 1: now we said it, we haven't. Next category, the Brenda
Speaker 1: Award for name that no one gets named now? Are
Speaker 1: going forward? I you pitched this category to me, and
Speaker 1: I my jaw dropped. I was like, he's right. No
Speaker 1: one is named Brenda now or will ever be named Brenda.
Speaker 1: Brenda Award for a name that no one gets named
Speaker 1: now or going forward Brenda Award. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: had just kept it to Brenda Award, I've been like, wait,
Speaker 1: like Regina Hall and scary movie Brenda, that's not the category,
Speaker 1: but it's Brenda Award for name. Oh wait, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a better idea of what this is. That
Speaker 1: no one gets named now. Oh that's right, no one
Speaker 1: gets named Brenda now or going forward. And that is
Speaker 1: a premonition. That's a prediction that no one going forward
Speaker 1: will be named Brenda. And that is culture. You are
Speaker 1: making culture. Thank you. We're gonna have more liberties than
Speaker 1: Brenda's for sure. I just don't see anyone naming their
Speaker 1: child Brenda in the Year of the Lord. Now, Brenda
Speaker 1: could win this category in a walk, but it's really
Speaker 1: not up to us. It's not up to the public
Speaker 1: does have to do their thing. We have an next category,
Speaker 1: most important tye of clothing and sorry, let me take
Speaker 1: that again. But you don't have to cut around that, Doug.
Speaker 1: This is just for the reader, for the I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: the publishers not cut around the publicists to now, most
Speaker 1: important item of clothing. Now, this is different than best
Speaker 1: dress because you're you're you're working with a cat within
Speaker 1: the category of dress. But this is just to name
Speaker 1: one item of clothing as a category. Yeah, now here's
Speaker 1: the thing. The the the most important item of clothing
Speaker 1: could be dress. You know what I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: up to us. I think that we have to think
Speaker 1: about functionality here. We have to think about necessity, but
Speaker 1: also important in terms of the culture. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean that there's so many different variables here at play.
Speaker 1: So it's important. Is interesting because you can interpret it
Speaker 1: as a connction or aesthetic or something. This is up
Speaker 1: to and it's not up to us. That's not what
Speaker 1: the public says. Um, we have next category, Yes, the
Speaker 1: Joy Behar Award for Stand Up Comedy. I think this
Speaker 1: is such a perfect way of honoring Joy's legacy in
Speaker 1: stand up You think, you think stand up community, think
Speaker 1: the greats you think, Um, you know, Jerry Fire, Jerry Fire,
Speaker 1: Margaret Show, the Four, the four, mount Rushmore, please the
Speaker 1: house houses stand up. Let's assign them. Honey. Seinfeld feels
Speaker 1: like Slytherin to me. Okay, So it's Seinfeld, Richard Pryor,
Speaker 1: Margaret Show and Down Margaret is Margaret's even Cline, Richard
Speaker 1: Pyror's Griffer North. That makes total sense. I love it,
Speaker 1: I really love it. And Jerry Seinfeld is unfortunately Slytherin.
Speaker 1: We love him, but he's he is I mean, Slytherin
Speaker 1: is about ambition. It's not about being villainous. There's been
Speaker 1: amazing Slytherins and incredible Slytherins. Um uh Malfoy's mom, Um,
Speaker 1: what is her name? Believe her name is? Um Narcissa, Narcissa,
Speaker 1: Come on, icon Narcissa, Narcisissa. Kind of what? Can I
Speaker 1: just say? What between Harry Potter and Hunger Games? Here
Speaker 1: we go? Those are some stupid ass fucking names. Some
Speaker 1: of those names just sound so fucking Can I say,
Speaker 1: I can't believe one of the most popular characters in
Speaker 1: literature for young adults is name Catanus Catanus or we'ress.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, maybe maybe I'm directing this. I mean,
Speaker 1: Harry Potter turf text for all time, but for Hunger Games,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know about some of these names. Girl, Peter, Peter,
Speaker 1: excuse pa, the lark that's made up? You made that up?
Speaker 1: That sounds like a Matt Rodgers gibberish name. So the
Speaker 1: other day we I smoked out of a new ball
Speaker 1: for the first time, and um, you named the bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to name the bowl. So this is my thing, Like,
Speaker 1: once you smoke at of it the first time, you
Speaker 1: take the first big hit. You exhale, and then you
Speaker 1: have to name the bowl immediately as it hits in
Speaker 1: your hands. And I named the new bowl that Joel
Speaker 1: bought from me. Thank you, baby, Barbara Trenda, I love it.
Speaker 1: And Trenda b A R b A r A not
Speaker 1: the Barbara strays and spelling Trenda t r E n
Speaker 1: d A Barbara Trenda from District Fourney Like that is
Speaker 1: like whatever best seller. Okay, we have a next category.
Speaker 1: The Scream by Edward Munch Award for Best Screen That
Speaker 1: and that that pain you know, you know the painting.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about open mouth icon one of the most
Speaker 1: iconic screams. But there are more screams. They're scream one
Speaker 1: scream too. It can be even like an audible scream
Speaker 1: like you know, um fucking even you've never seen hereditary.
Speaker 1: I will not see her out like anybody the scream
Speaker 1: that um ms vera ms ms Verry. No Hereditary, Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that literally don't know. I take responsibility for this. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Colette. I'm sorry, yes, but you know I can't
Speaker 1: have Vera farming. Your energy isn't a bad escaped me. Um.
Speaker 1: She's iconically the other one conjuring yes for Tony Colette
Speaker 1: scream and Tony Colette scream in a certain part of
Speaker 1: that movie after something happens at night in the morning
Speaker 1: when she discovers what has happened an iconic scream, and
Speaker 1: I think you should actually watch the movie for that alone.
Speaker 1: I have heard what it is, and I think I
Speaker 1: can actually watch it because so we'll just pause this
Speaker 1: for a second and say, the other night readers, we
Speaker 1: actually watched The Suicide Squad. We enjoyed it. We had
Speaker 1: a really fun time. It's one of the most insanely
Speaker 1: graphic films I've ever seen. But it was all like
Speaker 1: pot stylized. It was like, it was very like it
Speaker 1: was a little Tarantino. Sorry to bring him up, but
Speaker 1: it was a little Tarantino. It was pretty like wild violence.
Speaker 1: Your colleague Pete Davidson got his face blown off, and
Speaker 1: I was in the bathroom when that happened. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you missed, you missed, you missed that. I'm sorry. Oh,
Speaker 1: but pe getting a space blown off, it's very chat
Speaker 1: It's very like we we we love Pete for getting killed.
Speaker 1: And this isn't really a spoiler. You goll it happens
Speaker 1: like very and if anyway, if you care about spoilers
Speaker 1: for some of the Sad Squad and you're like listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast, I can't really help you. We have
Speaker 1: a we have an best Google service, Gmail Maps, drive,
Speaker 1: YouTube honoring Google, honoring Google. We have next category best
Speaker 1: Google Search. Um, porn. How do you tie a tie? When?
Speaker 1: When was you know when as Christian Channa was born,
Speaker 1: House of Gucci trailer, When were you googling that before
Speaker 1: the trailer dropped? Yeah? West Side Story trailer? When before
Speaker 1: the oscars? Google West Side Story Hugh Jackman height, Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackman height, when, like you know, Joel Kim booster age.
Speaker 1: We have a next category, best Apple product of them all?
Speaker 1: This isn't of them all? Category interesting interesting, one of
Speaker 1: the more interesting categories. Apple has had many products, their pods,
Speaker 1: MacBook Air. Um, you know, uh, Apple Juice the original
Speaker 1: like remember Apple Juice? Yes? Um? Remember the remember like
Speaker 1: the colored like max Imax that that we have an
Speaker 1: elementary school? Yes? Yes? Do you remember when they came
Speaker 1: out with I pod video? Oh my god, that was
Speaker 1: a moment of culture. That was literally a moment in culture.
Speaker 1: And I remember my friend Alison Celo had one, and
Speaker 1: she'd bring it to art and we will watch wonder
Speaker 1: shows and clips on it. Oh my god, Wow, take
Speaker 1: me back to that time, the quick wheel, the tactileness
Speaker 1: of the quick wheel. We have. We have an next
Speaker 1: category wand Division Award for Television. This is an award
Speaker 1: that honors TV. This award should be given to the program,
Speaker 1: performer or um moment that changed television for the better
Speaker 1: in the vein of one division, revolutionary, never before seen
Speaker 1: um reference. I think there. I think this is a
Speaker 1: really important award. This is one of the most important
Speaker 1: awards of the night because it honors and everyone in
Speaker 1: television is competing for the one for television, and I
Speaker 1: think we're both competitive in this. I think we're both
Speaker 1: really competitive in this. You probably maybe even a little
Speaker 1: bit more than me. I don't watch this space watch
Speaker 1: this Space Feel Force coming September two. Why can I
Speaker 1: say something actually about about the publicists. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put the publicists unnoticed. Okay, I'll hold on hold
Speaker 1: on to your fucking seats. Slash butts Jurassic Park. Not
Speaker 1: a lot of publicists campaigning for me or Matt, especially
Speaker 1: in categories where we're competitive, Funniest Gay Man, Outstanding reality
Speaker 1: competition host. We even a lot of people are being
Speaker 1: all tweet and being like they should win best Friend.
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now that's not that's don't
Speaker 1: be tweet, don't be sweet, don't be free. I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to hear it. Don't be tweets.
Speaker 1: I just want I just encourage the publicists. If you
Speaker 1: feel like we we we qualify for a category and
Speaker 1: that we would have a shot at winning, we would
Speaker 1: like to be included. I would just like to be included.
Speaker 1: Is that so much to ask? I would just like
Speaker 1: to be nominated. Maybe we'll have maybe you and I
Speaker 1: will lead the nominations as opposed to as someone else,
Speaker 1: as opposed to someone else or something else. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do another episode where we do where we do nominate.
Speaker 1: The nominees will be revealed on the show did we not?
Speaker 1: Did we on the show where we announced the winners.
Speaker 1: I think there should be a different I think this
Speaker 1: should be a difference. Okay, I guess there. Work is
Speaker 1: going to be another episode which is the nominees. That
Speaker 1: will be huge. It will be one of the biggest
Speaker 1: episodes of Lost Culture. We have next category, Victoria Beckham
Speaker 1: Award for Outstanding Achievements. This is, of course, in reference
Speaker 1: to her spokes every three questions, Matt, you do you
Speaker 1: do it so well? I don't know, he asked, like,
Speaker 1: what do you think of your people who love your
Speaker 1: performance in Spice World? I thought it was amazing and
Speaker 1: I'm still basing for my Ascending Achievement awards. This is
Speaker 1: in that spirit, that award, and this is just an
Speaker 1: award for outstanding achievement. Yeah, Victoria Beckham Award for Outstanding Achievement.
Speaker 1: We don't say the medium. No, we didn't. We we wouldn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't say it. Um, it's just it's for outstanding achievement.
Speaker 1: Anyone that's achieved an outstanding thing is eligible for this.
Speaker 1: We have the next category, Mess Neighborhood New York. Mama, Mama,
Speaker 1: Many neighborhoods in New York that the great city of
Speaker 1: New York. Yes, only one will win. Watch this space.
Speaker 1: We have a next category, Best Neighborhood Los Angeles. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Metropolis. Different different vibes, different feelings, different activities.
Speaker 1: It's a conversation that we could have and we have
Speaker 1: had definitively. Though. We're sort of taking a very close
Speaker 1: look at the city of Los Angeles and asking the publicists,
Speaker 1: what's the best neighborhood? Is it Los Felis, Is it
Speaker 1: Silver Like? Is it Downtown? Is it Glendale? Is it Glendale?
Speaker 1: Is it Korea Town? Does the Grove count as a neighborhood?
Speaker 1: I feel like I am in the most wonderful neighborhood
Speaker 1: when I at the growth, so I would say, yes,
Speaker 1: the Grove is in. The Grove is competitive? Is it
Speaker 1: larch Mott, is it Hancock Park? Is it Beverly Hills?
Speaker 1: Is it Universal Studios? Hollywood? Watch this space. We have
Speaker 1: a next category, Best Neighborhood Dallas Fort Worth. You didn't
Speaker 1: see this one coming. There's gonna there's gonna be a winner.
Speaker 1: We don't know which one. We were not quite familiar
Speaker 1: with this. We we just um, we just think that
Speaker 1: the Dallas and for the Dallas Fort Worth area should
Speaker 1: be acknowledged. And it's just so often it gets lost
Speaker 1: in the conversation between New York and l A um
Speaker 1: and it is it really is the third city. It's
Speaker 1: it's the third girl. It's like um boeing. Matt Sudi
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm Los Angeles, you are
Speaker 1: New York, and right, she would agree. In summer of
Speaker 1: for for coming soon, Coming very soon. Chris Award for
Speaker 1: most timeless name. The name Chris, Christopher Tofer has withstood
Speaker 1: the test of time. There have been Christopher's Chris's since
Speaker 1: the beginning, beginning Christ, think about it includes Chris. I
Speaker 1: don't make the rules at all, and so this is
Speaker 1: an award that honors another name, maybe a name maybe
Speaker 1: also Chris, we don't know, but a name that is
Speaker 1: just as timeless, if not more. And it should be
Speaker 1: more than Chris. If Chris Chris is the example is
Speaker 1: the blueprint, you could say, but oh honey, you better
Speaker 1: believe that one of these names out there, does it
Speaker 1: even better? Builds the building the founda yes, period, period
Speaker 1: and that's on period. We have a next category, Best
Speaker 1: video game moment. Countless moments have made up video game history.
Speaker 1: Eric Gainsborg or getting killed by Saffroth spoiler alert sorry,
Speaker 1: when Mario jumps, when Peach screams, Mario Donkey come out
Speaker 1: of a barrel, out of a barrel and into our hearts, tetris.
Speaker 1: That moment when the pieces connect, when someone gets shot
Speaker 1: on Grand Theft Auto, when someone gets shot in Golden Eye,
Speaker 1: when someone gets shot in a playful way in any
Speaker 1: of the mini games in Mario Party. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: they're doing like a Mario Party release with all the
Speaker 1: greatest game we have to play. We need to play
Speaker 1: soon with Pat. I'm just gonna say Pat is sort
Speaker 1: of iconically our third Party girl. That video. I want you, Yes,
Speaker 1: you need to keep saying Mario because you're from Long Island?
Speaker 1: Am I saying Mario? Mario? You have to stick to Mario? Okay?
Speaker 1: What was I saying? Mario? I think for a second
Speaker 1: year you said Mario Party. It is like, no, don't
Speaker 1: lose that. Don't lose that. Don't lose that part of you,
Speaker 1: kid out, don't lose that. Who said that? Don't lose
Speaker 1: that part of you? Hold it tight. I probably a
Speaker 1: lot of people. We have an next category Dragon Award
Speaker 1: for animal we're not sure as real. I'm still not
Speaker 1: sure about dragons. They might exist, they might be real,
Speaker 1: they might not be. I just don't. I can't say
Speaker 1: for sure. Say for tooth tigers are up in here.
Speaker 1: I don't know William Mammoth's I haven't seen him the
Speaker 1: Jodo bird, not um uh Za does. Come on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pokemon are included. If you if you have to defeat
Speaker 1: it and care for it, it's included. And oh if
Speaker 1: you if you've ever played Generation to onward, you know
Speaker 1: you got to feed and care for the pokemon. Let's
Speaker 1: keep going. In its category Vanilla Coke Award for what
Speaker 1: happened to that? This is for something explain talking about this.
Speaker 1: This is for something that we're not really sure what
Speaker 1: happened to that, Like, there was no reason for Vanilla
Speaker 1: Cooke to go away. Actually was the best coke and
Speaker 1: like people seem to like it. Um I had many
Speaker 1: many Vanilla Cokes in that time period of my life
Speaker 1: where it was readily available to us, and then suddenly
Speaker 1: one day I have to find myself sort of asking
Speaker 1: the question, what happened to that? So this is the
Speaker 1: Vanilla Coke Award for what happened to that? I'm unsure
Speaker 1: of the answer, and we're not going to answer the
Speaker 1: question here, but we definitely have to honor the one
Speaker 1: thing that has is missing. Can I ask you something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's say you're at an AMC theater and you're going
Speaker 1: up to that giant you know soda machine, the big
Speaker 1: red one with this with the touchscreen, one of my
Speaker 1: favorite things to do and one of my favorite machines
Speaker 1: to interact with. If you tap vanilla, if you tap
Speaker 1: the vanilla syrup into your coke, is it to me
Speaker 1: that's not quite the same as ordering just vanilla bottled
Speaker 1: vanilla coke. It's not. And I want to thank thank
Speaker 1: you for saying that up because I would never pretend
Speaker 1: because sort of what's happening in that machine. I believe
Speaker 1: they're called, um uh, magical coke boxes, magical coke box,
Speaker 1: magical magic box. Is you're sort of getting like the
Speaker 1: runoff of the other flavors, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You can never purely get what you want. So if
Speaker 1: I'm to step to that magical soda box, as I
Speaker 1: call them, and I believe is the official name, I'm
Speaker 1: going to dr pepper vanilla, which I know is counterintuitive
Speaker 1: because there's already a vanilla moment in remember, but I
Speaker 1: want all the vanilla. I'm this kind of girl, vanilla girl.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't like that they've I just
Speaker 1: I want someone. I want someone in a factory or
Speaker 1: a machine in a factory to to put the exact
Speaker 1: right amount of vanilla flavor into this cope. It's just
Speaker 1: it wasn't as God the magical Mr Mr Cookee. I
Speaker 1: don't think the magical Soda boxes are doing it right there.
Speaker 1: If if the Coke Bear were to walk into the
Speaker 1: m c and and see this and taste it, he
Speaker 1: would say no, He'd roll over in his grave. And
Speaker 1: the Coke Bear has been dead for years. We have
Speaker 1: a next category, Best Taylor Swift pretty self Exponatory Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift singer, songwriter, icon for former poet, poet, lyricist, pop star,
Speaker 1: guitar player, acoustic guitar players, guitarist, um, sometimes actress, the best,
Speaker 1: the best song, the best, the moment of best music video,
Speaker 1: could be anything. We have an next category, Best Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: pretty self exponatorym Taylor's disrupt pops, pop bit, siren, Siren,
Speaker 1: um iconic Glancer, iconic glancer, iconic, stumper, supermodel, white girl, stomp, Enthusiasts,
Speaker 1: electrical guitarist, award show attendee, fashion girl, feud feudor notes,
Speaker 1: app legend notes, app icon, Twitterer, Instagram, Riddler, Riddler, Riddler,
Speaker 1: she is, Riddler is Riddler Taylor or Taylor, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: riddler when she does like the liner notes and she like,
Speaker 1: you know, like makes the little puzzle when she's like
Speaker 1: this is interesting. This is an interesting conversation. Is it
Speaker 1: Taylor or Taylor when she does riddler riddler stuff? Is that?
Speaker 1: Is she doing that barefoot in the park for art
Speaker 1: or is she disrupting lives? I don't think we can
Speaker 1: answer it time. I think we can answer today. The
Speaker 1: publicists might want to chime in. We have a next category,
Speaker 1: best time. There are how many times during the day, thousands,
Speaker 1: with thousands of times and thousands of times when things happen.
Speaker 1: This is the best time when something happened. This is
Speaker 1: this is one of the best categories. Do you think
Speaker 1: this is? This is not limited to things that have
Speaker 1: time that's already happened. This could be time that that
Speaker 1: hasn't happened in the future. It could be and I'm
Speaker 1: just don't this out seven thirty pm, or it could
Speaker 1: be dusk. It could be best time, like the time
Speaker 1: we did something. That's time that's this is one of
Speaker 1: the most I'm still talking about best time. This is
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting categories because now going forward,
Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to have our entire readership whenever
Speaker 1: it's a certain time they celebrate time that during that
Speaker 1: sixty second period or that second period, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, they will, They'll have to they'll have to celebrate.
Speaker 1: We're creating a holiday. Oh my god, you're so right.
Speaker 1: We're now at the D category. This is the final
Speaker 1: category and that doesn't mean anything, but it's pretty maje,
Speaker 1: very major. You have the last category Artists of the millennium,
Speaker 1: the second millennium. Oh no, no, no, that we're in
Speaker 1: the third millennium, were in one of the later millenniums,
Speaker 1: were in the third. We're in the third millennium because
Speaker 1: there was zero two thousand thousand to two thousand, two
Speaker 1: thousand two. For this is artist at the millennium. This
Speaker 1: is I'm reading this as a reference to when Britney
Speaker 1: Spears presented Michael Jackson with the Team Choice Award or
Speaker 1: the People's Choice Award. It was the v M A. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's she and well it was it was for an
Speaker 1: award that was just like, uh, his career achievement or something.
Speaker 1: And then she said, I consider him to be the
Speaker 1: artists of the millennium and then he said to be
Speaker 1: receiving the Artist of the Millennium Award. Wow, I never
Speaker 1: thought this what happened? And it didn't and it didn't
Speaker 1: but it will now it will. Now we are writing
Speaker 1: the wrongs of that time for both Brittany and Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: So now the publicists know all the categories and we
Speaker 1: need to find out from you what deserves to be nominated.
Speaker 1: So the next time we do an episode and it's
Speaker 1: the nominations, no one feels sad that they didn't work
Speaker 1: hard enough, and it will be be three nominees. What
Speaker 1: you say meant nothing, Now I knew what you meant.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be three nominees for each category? Yes,
Speaker 1: it will, it will. I can confirm this has now
Speaker 1: become The nominations will be announced, and the nominations I
Speaker 1: don't think we can contain to one episode because we'll
Speaker 1: have three hundred things to name. I think it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to do it. I think we
Speaker 1: just do. You know we do Bowen. We literally do
Speaker 1: an episode which is just the nominations and we don't
Speaker 1: talk at all. That's not gonna be possible to this.
Speaker 1: We we will. There will be shocking moments that we
Speaker 1: have to discuss and we have to predict the winner. Bowen.
Speaker 1: When they announced the Emmys, do they stop after every
Speaker 1: category when there's something shocking and they, oh, my god,
Speaker 1: well let's talk about that. No, it's the nomination's announcement.
Speaker 1: It's a part of awards season. You know it's true that,
Speaker 1: But we'll we'll say, Matt Rogerson Boone Yang and officially
Speaker 1: announced to announce the nominations of the Lost Cultures Culture Awards.
Speaker 1: Do you think there will be any space, space or
Speaker 1: another allotment of time for us to talk about the races? Okay,
Speaker 1: this doesn't happen. The Culture Awards is not happening until December.
Speaker 1: Are we are we prepared to say that? Are we
Speaker 1: prepared to say that the awards will not the ceremony
Speaker 1: will not be until December? That this is that this
Speaker 1: is a five month for a single award show happening
Speaker 1: in October. I don't know when they're happening. We still
Speaker 1: don't know when. We're happy when they're happening. But to
Speaker 1: say the next episode will be the nominees, the next
Speaker 1: step out, not not not next week? We gotta have
Speaker 1: jan On. We gotta do Summer of cun, we gotta
Speaker 1: do summer of can we gotta bring on. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Dave Holmes is coming on the show in September. We're
Speaker 1: very excited. A lot of fun guests coming up. So, um, well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being on the journey. I
Speaker 1: I do have to go, and so I think that
Speaker 1: we will not be doing I don't think we won't
Speaker 1: be doing. I don't think so, honey. Um but publicists, now, well,
Speaker 1: I will be posting the full we will both be
Speaker 1: posting the full list of nominees. It's just so exciting.
Speaker 1: I am really thrilled. These categories are so tough and
Speaker 1: they will be hard fought. And don't disagree which um
Speaker 1: we we now, of course, and every episode with an
Speaker 1: amazing song. I was five and he was six. We
Speaker 1: rode on the horses made of sticks. He won black
Speaker 1: and night will white. He would always win the fight.
Speaker 1: Bang bang, and he shot me down. Bang babe, ground
Speaker 1: bang baby, that awful sound bang he shoot me? Do
Speaker 1: you hear more? Listen to the Classic Standards album Cheap
Speaker 1: Cheek Leading Ganga and Tony Ben. I love you Tony okay,
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