WEBVTT - Why the Mormon Church Loves Your DNA

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<v Speaker 1>There's long been a complicated relationship between science and religion,

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<v Speaker 1>but science owes a lot to religion. Despite the inherent tensions, Christianity, Islam,

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<v Speaker 1>and Judaism, just to name the three main Western religions,

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<v Speaker 1>have all made contributions to science at various times through history,

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<v Speaker 1>advancing the fields of algebra, chemistry, astronomy, genetics, and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Prognosis, Bloomberg's podcast about the intersection of health

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<v Speaker 1>and technology and the unexpected places it's taking us. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host Michelle fay Cortes. This week we look more

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<v Speaker 1>deeply into the study of family origins. It's an area

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<v Speaker 1>where one religious denomination in particular has really had an impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Bloomberg Health reporter christ and b Brown with the

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<v Speaker 1>story that you can Don's welcome the President and less

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<v Speaker 1>International Steve ron Wood. You look grave. We are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to have such a last this week. First, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to give a little warm welcome to all of

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<v Speaker 1>you who are enjoyed to share for the very first time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever doubted the market potential of consumer DNA testing,

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<v Speaker 1>then you probably haven't been to roots tech. You might

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<v Speaker 1>have thought then you were just coming to a Family

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<v Speaker 1>History Congress will in eight days of places. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you worried, you're about to find and more importantly, you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to feel so much more than that. Roots Tech

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<v Speaker 1>is like the consumer Electronics Show for family history hobbyists.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the world's biggest genealogy conference, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>kidding when I say big. This year, more than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thou people from every state and thirty eight countries blocked

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<v Speaker 1>to Salt Lake City for the four day conference. To

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<v Speaker 1>get a sense of how many people that is, consider

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<v Speaker 1>that the conference fills downtown Salt Lake City Salt Palace,

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<v Speaker 1>a seven hundred thousand square foot convention center that served

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<v Speaker 1>as the media center when Utah last hosted the Winter Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>The multitudes make the pilgrimage to Utah every year for

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<v Speaker 1>one reason, to find out about the latest and greatest

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<v Speaker 1>genealogical technologies. At roots Tech, companies like ancestry, dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty three and me show up to show off

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<v Speaker 1>their latest products, and people waiting hours long lines for discounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Celebrity genealogists give talks and teach classes, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>people from genealogical ideas just roaming around and costumes their

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<v Speaker 1>ancestors might have worn, like riches and pilgrim hats. My

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<v Speaker 1>favorite thing there was this feature in the roots Take

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<v Speaker 1>app that showed you how many cousins you had at

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<v Speaker 1>conference and let you message them. There were these big

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<v Speaker 1>digital displays everywhere with stats on how many cousins had connected.

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<v Speaker 1>On the second day, I noticed one display that said

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<v Speaker 1>more than seven thousand cousins had contacted each other through

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<v Speaker 1>the app. I just love the idea that all these

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<v Speaker 1>people were going to this conference and grabbing a cup

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee with a family member they've never met. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like family tree building in real time. I write about

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<v Speaker 1>DNA testing a lot and all of the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>surprising consequences that have come out of a growing consumer

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<v Speaker 1>interest in it. Filling out the family tree used to

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<v Speaker 1>be a hobby relegated to grandparents and great aunts. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like everyone is mailing away their DNA to

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<v Speaker 1>find out about their roots. Seeing so many people gathered

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<v Speaker 1>in one place to talk about genealogy really stallized for

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<v Speaker 1>me just how popular this hobby has become. On Opening night,

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<v Speaker 1>there was this live acapella show that thousands of people attended.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people stood up in the aisles and danced. The

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<v Speaker 1>place was a zoo. But maybe the craziest thing about

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<v Speaker 1>roots Tech is that it is actually put on by

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<v Speaker 1>the Mormon Church, or more precisely, the conference is put

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<v Speaker 1>on by Family Search, a genealogy organization run by the

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<v Speaker 1>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints. As the

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<v Speaker 1>church prefers to be called at the opening ceremony after

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<v Speaker 1>that acapella group saying Family Search as CEO Steve Rockwood

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<v Speaker 1>introduced several high ranking members of the church. Please welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the stage, the German of the Board of Family

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<v Speaker 1>Seas International, a member of the Core of the Church

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<v Speaker 1>of Jesus Christ of Lattery Saints, and my dear Brad

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<v Speaker 1>Elder by Foster. At one point he told the crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>we believe the Heavenly Father wants to connect us all together.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a theme you here repeated frequently at roots Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all related. We're all one big family. To

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, roots tech is not a religious conference, though

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<v Speaker 1>atheist should beware that there are some pretty clear religious overtones.

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<v Speaker 1>Roots Tech is a genealogy conference that is put on

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<v Speaker 1>by the Mormon Church. Around half of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>attend are not Mormon. If you missed the moment where

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<v Speaker 1>they invoked God and called church elders out on stage,

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<v Speaker 1>you might have never known there was a religious connection

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But there's a good reason that the church

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<v Speaker 1>puts on the biggest genealogy conference in the world. Genealogy

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<v Speaker 1>is a longstanding Mormon interest. More than that, it's become

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<v Speaker 1>intertwined with Mormon beliefs. Mormons believe that family spend eternity

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<v Speaker 1>together in the celestial Kingdom or Heaven. They also believe

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<v Speaker 1>in the baptism of the dead, a controversial practice in

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<v Speaker 1>which those who did not find their faith on earth

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<v Speaker 1>or given a chance of salvation and a chance at

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<v Speaker 1>eternity with the rest of their family. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>genealogy comes in. If you're going to save the soul

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<v Speaker 1>of your ancestor, you need to know who they are.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the nineteenth century, the church began sending Mormons

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<v Speaker 1>back to Europe to scour family records, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>century since, the Church is actively thought to bolster the

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<v Speaker 1>science and industry of genealogy, including by more recently putting

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<v Speaker 1>on roots deck. A century before consumer market even existed,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mormon Church had a need for better ways of

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<v Speaker 1>doing genealogy, and in pushing genealogical techniques and technologies forward,

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<v Speaker 1>it has set the stage for this crazy moment we're

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<v Speaker 1>living in right now, a time when you can buy

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<v Speaker 1>a DNA hit for and find out how Scottish you are,

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<v Speaker 1>or discover your dad isn't your dad, or even help

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<v Speaker 1>the police touch a serial killer. It was this convergence

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<v Speaker 1>of science, industry and religion that had brought me to

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<v Speaker 1>roots Tick. Honestly, I just found it fascinating. At the conference,

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down with Steve Rockwood, the CEO of Family

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<v Speaker 1>Search that I mentioned earlier. He explained to me how

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<v Speaker 1>genealogy has become such a big part of the Mormon faith.

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<v Speaker 1>While it is universal, it is it is innate desire

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<v Speaker 1>to know where you come from. Different people enter this

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<v Speaker 1>and actually start putting resource towards it for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the Church of Jesus Christ celebrity saints, there's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a doctrinal reason why members of the church wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to learn their their family history, and it's a simple

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<v Speaker 1>that's a simple principle that we believe that families can

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<v Speaker 1>live together forever and that that's a multi generational experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So that you can live with your your loved ones

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<v Speaker 1>that you knew um while you lived here on earth,

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<v Speaker 1>in your immediate family, but you can also live with

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<v Speaker 1>your grandparents and your great grandparents. And we just believe

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<v Speaker 1>families are forever. Many early Mormons were pioneers escaping discrimination

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<v Speaker 1>back east to eventually settle in the Great Salt Lake Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how genealogy entered the picture. The early members

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<v Speaker 1>of the church back in the eighteen hundreds, their homelands

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<v Speaker 1>were in the eastern United States, they were in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>there in northern and western Europe, and as they were

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<v Speaker 1>converted to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they gathered together

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<v Speaker 1>in different parts of the Eastern United States, the Midwest,

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately out here to the Inner Mountain West. And

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<v Speaker 1>so to hear, you have these pioneers that went through

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<v Speaker 1>all of this to come here, and they had left

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<v Speaker 1>their homelands, they had left their families. But there's this

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<v Speaker 1>doctrine that families can be together. And if you perform

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<v Speaker 1>certain ceremonies and rites in the in the temple of

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<v Speaker 1>the Church of Jesus Christ larities saints, then you can

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<v Speaker 1>give that offering to your ancestors well. In order for

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<v Speaker 1>them to do that, they need to have the records,

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<v Speaker 1>and the records were back home, the records were thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of miles away. In order to fulfill a key part

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<v Speaker 1>of their faith, Mormon pioneers needed to access family records

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't have. So in the church founded the

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<v Speaker 1>Genealogical Society of Utah, sending Mormons as far afield as

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<v Speaker 1>Europe to track down original documents that would allow people

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<v Speaker 1>to fill out their family trees. And it started as

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<v Speaker 1>a service, and then the technology came and so it

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<v Speaker 1>went from service to let's use this technology, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when we started sending out camera crews to go start

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<v Speaker 1>taking the pictures and all the archives. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the root of it, and it's evolved now

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<v Speaker 1>for over a hundred years. Like Steve mentioned, at some

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<v Speaker 1>point the church started to get really interested in new

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<v Speaker 1>technologies that could help it do a better job of

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<v Speaker 1>collecting family records and ultimately connecting families in heaven. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties, the church began using microfilm, photographing original

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<v Speaker 1>documents so that they would be better preserved and more accessible.

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<v Speaker 1>In the nineteen eighties, as home computers became a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the church introduced software so that people could create and

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<v Speaker 1>share their family trees electronically. With the advent of the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>the church realized that the genealogical Society of Utah could

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<v Speaker 1>have a far wider reach and re christened it Family Search.

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<v Speaker 1>The family Search website eventually launched in nineteen, three years

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<v Speaker 1>after Ancestry dot com. Ancestry dot com, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>also has Mormon roots. It was started by two Brigham

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<v Speaker 1>young grads who got their start selling Latter day Saints

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<v Speaker 1>publications on floppy disk. The church even created jed com,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the file format still used today for genealogical

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<v Speaker 1>data today. The church record collection includes billions of digitized

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<v Speaker 1>online records, along with more than two point four million

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<v Speaker 1>rolls of microfilmed records, seven hundred forty two thousand microfiche,

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<v Speaker 1>and hundreds of thousands of books and periodicals, all stored

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<v Speaker 1>and the Family History Library on Temple Square in Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City and in the Granite Mountain Records Fault, which

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<v Speaker 1>is basically a climate controlled bunker for records built under

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred feet of rock to withstand a nuclear blast.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Steve again. Our role is simply to connect members

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<v Speaker 1>of the Church of Jesus Christ, Hilary Saints, and those

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<v Speaker 1>who aren't members of the church, to just simply connect

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<v Speaker 1>them to their homelands and connect them back to their families.

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<v Speaker 1>Exporting the enthusiasm for genealogy. The Church's betting is good

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. It means better technology, more access to records,

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<v Speaker 1>and an easier path to salvation. The Church, Rockwood told me,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be a catalyst for the entire industry. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually why it started roots Tech back in two thousand eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Genealogists and technologists weren't talking to each other, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Church wanted to change that. We don't compete with absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>anyone here at roots Teck. We don't compete with anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry. We want to see what they bring

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<v Speaker 1>to the party. We want to see if what we

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<v Speaker 1>can add to it, and then find ways that baby,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a more synergistic approach, and we've been very, very

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<v Speaker 1>successful in doing above and beyond all else. We just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be the trusted partner and the trusted, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>neutral entity here and that's why we created roots Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>We were the one organization um that could actually bring

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<v Speaker 1>everyone together. Root stick exists to cement the church's role

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<v Speaker 1>at the center of the genealogy industry. I talked with

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Atkinson, a historian at Queen's University in Canada, for

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<v Speaker 1>some perspective on the contributions the Church has made to

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<v Speaker 1>the field. Almost a decade ago, Donald wrote a book

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<v Speaker 1>about the Mormon Church and genealogy. He told me he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't think the Church gets enough credit for the role

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<v Speaker 1>it has played in field. This is something I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>before from people in the industry that the church really

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<v Speaker 1>set the stage for the industry that would follow it.

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<v Speaker 1>The church was going to it helped the first big

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<v Speaker 1>wave of democratization of genealogy. If you if we talked

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<v Speaker 1>in the year eighteen fifty, let's say, you know, before

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<v Speaker 1>the church did this, but eighteen fifty, genealogy was something

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<v Speaker 1>rich people did. If you're talking nineteen fifties, starts to

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<v Speaker 1>become possible, using often by Mormon sources to start too,

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody if they'll take the time to start to

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<v Speaker 1>learn about their family, and then it gets just easier

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<v Speaker 1>and easier, and it's snowballs. Um. So, yeah, the democratization

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<v Speaker 1>of genealogy is in large degree caused by made possible

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<v Speaker 1>by the at Roots Tech, the biggest draws classes where

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<v Speaker 1>people learn things like how to sturge scandinating archives or

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<v Speaker 1>read an ancestor sloppy, hard to decipher handwriting. Increasingly, people

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<v Speaker 1>are really interested in DNA testing, which in the past

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<v Speaker 1>decade has gotten really easy and cheap. For a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, DNA testing is like the gateway drug to genealogy.

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<v Speaker 1>They send in a tube of spit to find out

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<v Speaker 1>about their heritage just for fun, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden they were messaging with third cousins and obsessively trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fill in the gaps on their family tree. All

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<v Speaker 1>of the major DNA testing companies have multiple classes at

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<v Speaker 1>roots Tech, as well as huge booths where they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrations and selling kids. I talked to a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people about why they were there. Some of them got

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<v Speaker 1>the genealogy bug from a grandparent or had a friend

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<v Speaker 1>or family member that was into it. Here's one woman

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<v Speaker 1>I met, Jan My husband is big into genealogy, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just I'm I'm starting and loving it and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm loving to find my family. Okay, so you're being

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<v Speaker 1>a supportive spouse, a supportive spouse, but now I love

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<v Speaker 1>it taking on a life of itself. It is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just fun to know where we came from. And also, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we have grandchildren, and the stories that we're finding from

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<v Speaker 1>our history, I really think strengthens our grandchildren as we

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<v Speaker 1>tell them, Gosh, look what your great great grandparents live through,

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<v Speaker 1>you can live through today. It seems like more than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to know who we are and where

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<v Speaker 1>we came from. Within the Mormon faith, enthusiasm for roots

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<v Speaker 1>is baked into the culture. Within most Mormon congregations. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a person whose duty it is to help people with

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<v Speaker 1>their own family history. Bringham Young. The university owned by

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<v Speaker 1>the church, even produces a popular Greatest Race style reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV show in which participants forego technology on a hunt

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<v Speaker 1>to find and meat relatives get ready for a race

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<v Speaker 1>unlike any other. Our family round we rolled. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in my life, I met a little piece

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<v Speaker 1>of my dad. I've gained a better appreciation for family.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked for a long time with Sydney Orton, an

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old by Youth student who has been into

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<v Speaker 1>genealogy since she was a little kid. She talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about what genealogy means to her as a more man,

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<v Speaker 1>but also about just how fun it is. I started

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<v Speaker 1>when I was eleven years old. I am a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was part of that religion. Our church leaders

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<v Speaker 1>really pushed us to be involved in genealogy, and one

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<v Speaker 1>aspect that they were particularly focusing on in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>eleven was um indexing, and I thought, Okay, I'll try it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I did, and I fell in love with it.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me what really got her hooked on genealogy

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<v Speaker 1>were the stories she uncovered. There were stories behind the records.

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<v Speaker 1>Were like weird things I'd find in records, like kids

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<v Speaker 1>who died because they were born two heads, or this

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<v Speaker 1>whole family where they named They had nine kids and

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<v Speaker 1>they named every single kid after a character from the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible or not a character of sent from the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>And then their last kid they named Lucifer, which I

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<v Speaker 1>just really wanted to know the story behind. Sydney started

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<v Speaker 1>out helping the church index other people's records, but eventually

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<v Speaker 1>she also got curious about her own family. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>her ancestors were Mormon pioneers, people who traversed North America

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<v Speaker 1>with hand pulled carts to get to Utah. But this

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<v Speaker 1>particular family, as I learned their story, I was just

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<v Speaker 1>so blown away by their strength or their determination and

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty to God into each other. One of her distant

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<v Speaker 1>great grandmothers, Jane James, lost a baby on the boat

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<v Speaker 1>to America from England and her husband on the truck

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<v Speaker 1>to Utah. Her son got frostbite and couldn't walk. Sidney says,

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<v Speaker 1>Jane and her daughter survived on four ounces of flower

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<v Speaker 1>a day pulling their carts to Utah and the snow.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, this relative was pretty tough. So they

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<v Speaker 1>had so much unwavering faith in God. It's yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really touched me. And I thought, well, if they

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<v Speaker 1>have that much strength and I came from them and

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<v Speaker 1>other ancestors like them, than I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>strays because they're my family. At Roots Tech, I met

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<v Speaker 1>lots of Mormons who were proud of the role the

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<v Speaker 1>faith has played in popularizing an interest in family history.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Nada, a spokesperson for Family Search, told me that

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<v Speaker 1>he thought the church has played a big role in

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<v Speaker 1>influencing a lot of areas of the technology, like online

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<v Speaker 1>family trees. The scrap booking craze of the eighties and nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, even began in Mormon circles. Many credit the

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<v Speaker 1>beginnings of that movement to one Utah Mormon Family Church.

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<v Speaker 1>Tenants in modern science, of course, aren't always in sank

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<v Speaker 1>far from it. While the Mormon Church has embraced DNA testing,

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<v Speaker 1>the technologies helped confirm scientific findings, also at odds with

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<v Speaker 1>the core Mormon belief The Book of Mormon holds that

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<v Speaker 1>Native Americans descended from Jews fleeing the conquest of ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Israel by the Assyrians nearly three thousand years ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>population genetics support earlier work by archaeologists and anthropologists. The

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<v Speaker 1>show humans first walk to North America about fourteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years ago over a land bridge linking present day Siberia

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<v Speaker 1>with Alaska. That hasn't stopped the church from forging ahead

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<v Speaker 1>with new technologies that it hopes can make genealogy more

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and accessible. For the first time. This year, Family

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<v Speaker 1>Search will hold a second Roots Tech conference in London. Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>the Family Search CEO, told me that Family Searches are

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<v Speaker 1>in d arm Is exploring how it might use artificial

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence to help with archiving and searching records. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about how it could help bolster the burgeoning field

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<v Speaker 1>of consumer DNA testing. He said. Long term planning for

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<v Speaker 1>the church isn't a decade or two that's short term.

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<v Speaker 1>They're planning for what the world might be like in

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years, for the probability that future genealogists will

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from having too much data instead of too little.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this incredible emotion, even a spirit of the work,

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel when you've find out um how you're connected,

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<v Speaker 1>either in general to your homeland or in general to

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<v Speaker 1>your family. It's a feeling of of completeness, of connectiveness

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<v Speaker 1>belonging in Utah, I visited the Family History Library, the

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<v Speaker 1>place where so many of the church's records were kept.

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<v Speaker 1>The prominence of the library, right on Temple Square, directly

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<v Speaker 1>across from the towering spires of the Salt Lake Temple,

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<v Speaker 1>says a lot about the importance of genealogy to Mormons.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a five story temple to genealogical research, but

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<v Speaker 1>unlike Mormon temples, the libraries open to anyone. When I

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<v Speaker 1>went inside, I'm not really sure what I was looking for.

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<v Speaker 1>A young and very enthusiastic church missionary sat me down

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<v Speaker 1>at a computer and showed me the ropes. We decided

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<v Speaker 1>to see if we could find any records related to

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<v Speaker 1>my great grandfather Manuel, who swam to Texas from Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>Since Manuel was not a legal immigrant, I was surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that we actually found some things. Like Sydney, I found

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<v Speaker 1>the most fascinating things were the stories behind the records.

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<v Speaker 1>From census record I learned that he had worked eighty

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<v Speaker 1>hours a week as a waiter, and that he and

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<v Speaker 1>my great grandmother had a lodger. I imagined his long

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<v Speaker 1>days at the restaurant, coming home to his wife and

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<v Speaker 1>my young grandfather. I wondered who that lodger was. There

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<v Speaker 1>was also another record, one that just might have been him,

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<v Speaker 1>record of a man who at least shared his name

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<v Speaker 1>and age, crossing into America at about the right time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was powerful the young missionaries zerox the record for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Helping people connect to their past, he told me, was

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<v Speaker 1>really really cool for me, though, there was something slightly

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable about finding pieces of my very Catholic great grandfather's

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<v Speaker 1>history enshrined in a building belonging to religion to which

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<v Speaker 1>neither of us belonged. Then again, if the Church hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>preserved so many of these records, who's to say they

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<v Speaker 1>would still exist at all. For me, the records may

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<v Speaker 1>not be a path to heaven, but at least they

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<v Speaker 1>are path to knowing a little bit more about my past.

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