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Speaker 1: Doctor Howard Sobel is a top rated cosmetic dermatologist in

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Speaker 1: New York. In fact, he happens to be my dermatologist.

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Speaker 1: We talk about everything from what you should be doing

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Speaker 1: for your daily skincare routine to insight on popular cosmetic procedures.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Sobol also has his own line of skincare that

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Speaker 1: you can find at doctor Sobel skinrx dot com or

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Speaker 1: Sophora dot com. This is just be influenced with doctor

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Speaker 1: Howard Sobel. Let's get into it. So Howard is a dermatologist,

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Speaker 1: a high profile dermatologist in New York City that has

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Speaker 1: a lot of celebrity clients. I you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: get enough credit for the fact that a lot of

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Speaker 1: people do this now and you didn't invent it. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're the only person that did it,

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Speaker 1: but it definitely wasn't a common thing for dermaty is

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Speaker 1: to inject botox into a jaw to alleviate that mass

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Speaker 1: muscle building up and also the tension from grinding. And

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Speaker 1: I know this because a lot of people now when

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Speaker 1: I talk about my teeth grinding try to suggest that

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Speaker 1: to me and I'm like, Hi, we invented that.

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Speaker 2: When you inject the mass of muscle here, this muscle,

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Speaker 2: this muscle actually actual fees me like you don't use

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Speaker 2: it very much, a muscle atrophye. When it actual fees,

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Speaker 2: it has the effect of helping TMJ because why it

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Speaker 2: is TMJ. It's grinding your teeth and increasing that muscle

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Speaker 2: where it's painful.

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Speaker 3: The muscle is always in contraction.

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Speaker 1: To be built up.

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Speaker 3: It continues you.

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Speaker 2: Build up because people don't even realize it, and that's

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Speaker 2: sleep they're grinding. And that's why a lot of people

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Speaker 2: dent this get people, you know, bite plates so they

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Speaker 2: don't grind. But this side effect you know a lot

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Speaker 2: of times in dermatology, and we'll talk about it. The

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Speaker 2: side effect of things is how things were discovered. So

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Speaker 2: by doing botox in the muscle in this area around

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Speaker 2: the jaw line, okay, it decreases the muscle, build up

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Speaker 2: the tension in the jaw line, and it gives you

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Speaker 2: a more heart shaped face.

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Speaker 3: And that's what you want.

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Speaker 2: A female wants a heart shaped face, a male wants

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Speaker 2: a square loft drawer.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, that's interesting, Well do you The funny thing is

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Speaker 1: that mine for years I had been told by dentists

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Speaker 1: for years to get a nightguard, which doesn't totally by

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Speaker 1: the way. Sometimes you use it almost like a passive buyer,

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Speaker 1: and that becomes like the new thing that you're biting on.

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Speaker 1: If you're really like a professional like me, it becomes

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Speaker 1: like it becomes like a chew toy, like a chew

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Speaker 1: toy for a dog, like you're teeting. It's I'm really bad,

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Speaker 1: but I've been doing it my whole life, and even

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Speaker 1: young dentists were telling me to get a nightguard, and

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Speaker 1: I just ignored it. And you do a lot of damage.

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Speaker 1: But what I realized was that you're building it up

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Speaker 1: like a bicep curl. Like people thought that I had

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Speaker 1: a different face after I did that with you. But

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Speaker 1: it's not something you do just the first day. It's

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Speaker 1: something that you have to do in small increments a

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Speaker 1: because it's a gradual thing. But B you don't want

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Speaker 1: to like dissolve your entire jaw, where then it's like

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to be very very careful on this

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Speaker 2: because and I've learned the lesson once or twice as well.

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Speaker 3: But I see people come to me all the time.

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Speaker 2: If someone's very exciting, please get rid of the TMJ,

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Speaker 2: do whatever I want. I want that perfect joy line.

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Speaker 2: And you do too much, and you do too much,

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Speaker 2: and you answer fee that set of muscle okay, too much.

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Speaker 2: What happens you have difficulty biting down and food, and

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Speaker 2: also your smile maybe crooked.

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Speaker 3: You can wind up with a smile like this.

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Speaker 2: I can see that, and I've seen that before, and

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Speaker 2: it's very hard and you have to hit the other

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Speaker 3: So what you'd rather not do is have that problem.

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Speaker 3: Just do a little out of time and then have

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Speaker 3: them come back in a month, do it again.

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Speaker 2: And just slowly decrease the muscle contraction so you don't

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Speaker 2: TMJ is better.

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Speaker 3: But look at my smile, doctor, and I can true

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Speaker 3: food and I'm jeweling, So you don't want.

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Speaker 1: That, right, Well, all right, So you've been a dermatologist

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Speaker 1: for how many years in that space in there?

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Speaker 3: Thirty five years? Thirty five? Is that dating me? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dating thirty five years. That's dating you. That's thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: And were you like, how long did it take you

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Speaker 1: to become a hot shot, like really like the.

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Speaker 2: Guy you know shot hot shots then with different hot shots.

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Speaker 2: Now it's interesting, you know sometimes when you're a little older,

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Speaker 2: you become antiquated. Everything now is the Internet, it's TikTok,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: When I started practice, I always had a cosmetic practice.

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Speaker 2: But yet I always saw patients for their medical problems,

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Speaker 2: their germ medical problems, because you can't just do botox

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Speaker 2: of pills or lifel and someone and then they come

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Speaker 2: in for a rash and you say, I can't see it,

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Speaker 2: go to someone else. So I always saw both, and

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Speaker 2: I still do. There was a time that I saw patients.

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Speaker 3: I saw manage care as well as just paying patients

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Speaker 3: without manage care. Now we don't see manage care anymore

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Speaker 3: for the last ten years. But how did you build it?

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Speaker 3: I built it by going out and word of mouth.

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Speaker 3: That's how I built the practice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Bethany Frankoin, Bethany Franco would say, oh, guy, way,

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Speaker 2: I met to his doctor and look what he did,

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Speaker 3: And then you'd meet someone else, and that's how I did.

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Speaker 2: I went to dinner and so I sitting next to

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Speaker 2: me started talking to me, and you know, I was

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Speaker 2: much younger than and you know you just you talked

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Speaker 2: a lot. Okay, you didn't have a real place, there

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Speaker 2: was no way of spreading the word.

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Speaker 3: People didn't really take ads.

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Speaker 2: Then now you see big what big hospitals take an

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Speaker 3: It's become a different world. It's a world of not

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Speaker 2: It's mouth to mouth through TikTok, through internet, and no

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Speaker 2: one knows who better than you.

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people know it better. But I'm

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Speaker 1: in that world, and I feel like I used to

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Speaker 1: be more. First of all, you're a doctor's you're in

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Speaker 1: the office all day. You don't have a non traditional business.

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Speaker 1: You can't screw around at home all day figuring out

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Speaker 1: how to master this. So I feel like it's something

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Speaker 1: that you feel like you have to outsource, not unlike

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Speaker 1: outsourcing having a brand, And it's not something you can

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Speaker 1: spend all day on. And you must feel like you're

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Speaker 1: you've made a lot, you've been successful, and you've made

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Speaker 1: a lot of money, but you're in the office all

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Speaker 1: day seeing patients, So you don't have time to build

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Speaker 1: a brand and a business where the really big, big

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Speaker 1: parro Cone and you know Dennis Gross and that money

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Speaker 1: is and so I want to know, a how do

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Speaker 1: you manage? Does it feel exasperating like you're missing out

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Speaker 1: over here? You're not big enough on Instagram or TikTok

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Speaker 1: and Paracne did that and Dennis Gross did that, and

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Speaker 1: you've had a lot and he is Howard is very

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Speaker 1: good skincare. He has very good products. And he has

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Speaker 1: like a glycolic peel that is thirty percent that actually

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Speaker 1: really does burn. You feel the tangle, but not in

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Speaker 1: a way where it is damaging. You have a thirty

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Speaker 1: percent vitamin ccerum. The packaging is very sort of medical

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Speaker 1: meat support, which I do like because it's trustworthy. But

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Speaker 1: you know, be Cosmetics is the land of bullshit, and

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Speaker 1: you're not spending all your time on building this brand

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Speaker 1: because you're still running your business and that is a

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Speaker 1: hard area to land, And so how do you balance that?

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Speaker 2: And well, you know, I think I did spend a

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Speaker 2: lot of time way back in nineteen ninety two, and

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Speaker 2: that goes way back, you know, DDF, I know a

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Speaker 2: lot of the people are listening now know what that is.

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Speaker 2: That brand was Doctor's Dermatology FORMU that I started. At

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Speaker 2: that time. There were no ingredients in products I think, okay,

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Speaker 2: even the big companies clean.

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Speaker 1: Were what ingredients?

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Speaker 3: There were no active ingredients. We actually put that on

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Speaker 2: And when we put that on the map of ninety two,

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Speaker 2: we wound up going to one hundred and two skews

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Speaker 2: way too much a product linectually.

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Speaker 3: Probably only have twenty.

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Speaker 2: But we we every time something came out, we made

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Speaker 1: I did that too with pash Minas.

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Speaker 2: You get excited, you get excited, but that's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: the best thing financially for a business.

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Speaker 3: Now, we eventually sold it. We almost sold it.

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Speaker 2: Was supposed to be sold to Loreal and said they

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Speaker 2: bought skin Cceutical and then P and G bought us,

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Speaker 2: bad times in a way. They sold off a lot

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Speaker 2: everyone copied us. We were you know, no one, there

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Speaker 1: They peaked too early, but you didn't make the rust.

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Speaker 1: I remember talking to you, and you were torturing yourself.

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Speaker 1: You're a scorpio, so I get that you were torturing yourself.

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Speaker 1: You were very passionate about two roads to go in business,

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Speaker 1: so you don't have to say who they were. You

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Speaker 1: listening who are business people. There were two roads. One

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Speaker 1: that seemed like the shiny objects, and you also had

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Speaker 1: like if you didn't do it, you weren't being a

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Speaker 1: But like you were going in as Beyonce, you were

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Speaker 1: go be Beyonce, but because of other reasons, you went

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Speaker 1: with P and G, and you felt that that was

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Speaker 1: to explain that mistake because PG, P.

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Speaker 3: And G is a machine.

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Speaker 2: And you look at their market cap at the time,

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Speaker 2: it was two hundred and fifty billion dollars, and you

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Speaker 2: look at the market cap of say, the other one

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Speaker 2: was Cody, the market cap was like five billion. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But what you don't realize I realized now is that

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Speaker 2: most of that five billion was all prestige. Out of

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Speaker 2: the two hundred and fifty market cap of P and G,

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Speaker 2: that it was about fifteen million that was prestige, you know, skincare,

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Speaker 2: A lot of the other stuff was you went.

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Speaker 3: I went with the smaller partner. No, I went with

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Speaker 3: the bigger part of the PNG. No, the P and G.

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Speaker 2: But they were a machine. But that machine, you know,

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Speaker 2: By that time they sold off thirteen billion. Imagine that

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Speaker 4: It's Jojo Siua, host of the new podcast Jojo Sewa.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you have no idea. You have to

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Speaker 1: And they're never gonna really tell you. I sold Skinny

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Speaker 2: I felt that, you know, we missed the boat only goes.

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Speaker 2: So I actually developed the patent on on a vehicle.

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Speaker 3: As you get.

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Speaker 1: But why can't you do one of those deals and

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Speaker 2: you know, our practice because you know we there's quality

439
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: here and you get something under one roof. But like

440
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't let someone out without doing a medical check

441
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 2: on them, making sure they don't have a melanoma or

442
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 2: a skin cancer.

443
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: You know.

444
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 2: Then we then we go from head to toe, thinning hair, varicos, veins,

445
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, muscle loss, building up to cheeks, getting rid

446
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 2: of fine lines and wrinkles, getting rid of pigmentation. Okay,

447
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 2: we're coming.

448
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: I'm covering skin ca I'm covering and I can tell

449
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 3: you some new lasers. Well if we have time.

450
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: He ye, we just got in the last two weeks

451
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: to believe it or not, and they're exciting things happening

452
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: all the time. Some of the lases, you gotta be careful,

453
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: you know, another laser comes out every other week, and

454
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: you got to pick and choose because a lot of

455
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 2: them are the same.

456
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 1: What is all this stuff and what do we really

457
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: need in your opinion? Okay, So I've heard of there's, there's,

458
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: and people buy these. Serrum serum is the most overused.

459
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 1: Like everybody has a serum and they all do something different.

460
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: So vitamin C serum, vitamin B serum, glycolic serum, retinal, NYA,

461
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: sin peptides, matrick soul, like, let's be I know it's

462
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 1: different for everybody. But I've been doing this a long

463
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: time now. We're looking at all this stuff and I'm

464
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 1: still confused. So can you collagen? Can you try to

465
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: help me understand what is for what? So? Like then

466
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: there are ones that say like for brightness and reduces discoloration,

467
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: and I think those are also vitamin C. I'm a

468
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: woman in the drug store, so I have been told

469
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and I stick by it that

470
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: I would do vitamin cerum and see serum in the morning,

471
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: and if you want like either a glycoc or retinal

472
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: or something peeling at that or if you're dehydrated, put

473
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: this on, Like tell me about this functional.

474
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: You're coming to my office. What am I going to get? Okay,

475
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: that's what you're asking.

476
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Okay, what does a person do during the drugs? So

477
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: they want to try this year they heard about nice.

478
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll tell you that. Then everyone should use a retinal. Okay.

479
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: Retinal is tried and true.

480
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: It's the only real product that has been held up

481
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: truly to decrease fine lines and wrinkles and so many,

482
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: so many studies, thousands of touch studies. So a retinal

483
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: and answer question is what concentration? We have a high concentration,

484
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: but longs you use a retinal at night?

485
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: And question is should use a retinal every day? Okay?

486
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: I think retinal is a great product. I think you

487
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: start out every other day. But I like to intersperse

488
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: it with nica sin in mine. A lot of people

489
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: have not heard cinema nine cinemi is B three. It

490
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: helps keep water, that's the thing.

491
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: So if it's a BAT three sermony.

492
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: B three cerami and n exact same thing. Okay, Okay,

493
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: so I alternated. Because retinoal increases collagen production, it increases

494
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 2: elastin production, It helps tighten the skin.

495
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

496
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: It also helps blood float to the skin as well,

497
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: so you get that rosy glow. Then the nine Cinemi helps,

498
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: you know, the barrier of our skin, water gets out,

499
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: pollutants get in. As we get older, it becomes like

500
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: cottage cheese. The B three A Nice Cinemi actually actually

501
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 2: repairs that barrier, so it always sows up the little holes.

502
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: Water stays in and the pollutants things don't get out,

503
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: and you get more of a plumper skin. It also

504
00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: helps with core size as well. Okay, if nothing else

505
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: does it other than that, I think Nice Cinemi. So

506
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 2: I have someone alternate that now because we have high

507
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: concentration today, just a specific maybe for soble skin, I

508
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: use it with biohyaluronic acid.

509
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: Biohaluronic acid, as you.

510
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: Know, is one of the best moisturizeres A skin is

511
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 2: made up of hyaluronic acid.

512
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 3: It helps keep water in the skin. As you get old,

513
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 3: skin becomes less plump and it becomes sunken in. So

514
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: I haven't put the retinal on by a cinemion.

515
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: Assume be hieronic on and then Nice Cinemi and then biohyaluronic.

516
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: Alternate days, all right, So the knights of the retinal

517
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: are the hyaluronic and the knights that are off for

518
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: the nice cinnamond.

519
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: No, the retinal nice cinamie, it's retinal biohyaluronic right after

520
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: next day.

521
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Okay, bio hyaluronic. Is that the same thing as hyaluronic.

522
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same thing as hieron that's our name,

523
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: but we use in ours is highluron which is a

524
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: small molecule of the hieronic acid, so it actually gets

525
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: into the skin.

526
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: Yet the night of the retinal is the hyaluronic you said, yes,

527
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: you're using biohyaluronic both nights, and then the other night

528
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: is the n cinamide in the hyaluronic And what about

529
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: the day? Do you agree with the vitamin C serum

530
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: in the days?

531
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: Totally viamin C that builds collagen, one of the best

532
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: buildings of collagen and also which helps fine lines and

533
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: wrinkles and lasting production. And the key to it it

534
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: actually decreases pigmentation.

535
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: It helps with brightness of the skin.

536
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So what about now when you have a product,

537
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: it's like the pads that are glycolic toning pads are

538
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: exfoliating pads. Those pads I use those a couple of

539
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: times a week during the day and they seem to

540
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: like clean the skin also, and they're not too harsh

541
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: and then moisturize after with SPF and some of them

542
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: are stronger and you could use those at night and

543
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: using those not with retina. They're instead of correct or

544
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: an alternate.

545
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: Well, you alternate, you're not using it with it, you're alternating,

546
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: of course.

547
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: But why would you choose the retinal and not those pads?

548
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: Why would one choose one or the other?

549
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: Well, glycolic acid Okay, as we age, our skin cells

550
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: stick together amost like a glue like substance. Okay, So

551
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: the glycolic acid actually unglues those dead skin cells. So

552
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: those dead skin cells that are sitting on top of

553
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: the skin making your skin look yellow and rough. Yes,

554
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: and as you age it doesn't you don't slough off

555
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: those skin cells as readilarly. So the glycolic acid breaks

556
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: up the glue in between the cells, and when you

557
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: wash your face, it's slopped off.

558
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: It's exploding. Yeah, I didn't know that retinol didn't explode you.

559
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought, well.

560
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: Does does that as well? But over a period of time,

561
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: like holic acid works a little quicker to unglue, those

562
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: those those uh glue like substance between.

563
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: The cells, so you can combined and then and then

564
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: a scrub is like another version of doing that on

565
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: your own. It's like manual scrub is.

566
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: A physical version of that.

567
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: Right, that's what I'm saying. A wash cloth is an exfoliant.

568
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: I think exfoliator, well, absolutely depends how rough it is, right, okay,

569
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: But but.

570
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 3: There's no The confusion here is you keep hearing.

571
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: Collagen uh increasing, collagen increasing and lasting decreasing fine lines

572
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: and wrinkles. A lot of these products work in conjunction

573
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 2: with each other. And your question is a great question,

574
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: But there is other than maybe the retinal. There is

575
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: no one product that should be used by itself.

576
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: I think. No.

577
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: I agree that, Yeah, I agree, but not but but.

578
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: The worst thing in my office in terms of patients

579
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: coming in, they think more is better. That doesn't mean

580
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: you take a retinal, then you put it like how

581
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: it on top of it, and then you put a

582
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: nice sit on top. But people do that, they think

583
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: more is.

584
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Better, you know, and it's not okay, it's I agree.

585
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: I think that it's like cooking and you have to

586
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: and you have to know or eating. You have to

587
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: know your body. So if I'm an Aspen, I'm not

588
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: going to start doing a ton of like drying exfoliators

589
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: because I know that my skin's already tightening because it's

590
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: freezing out and it's so dry. So that's a place

591
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: where you might do like a warm washcloth to exfoliate

592
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: a little bit and then absorb the products by layering,

593
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: like a serum or a face oil, and then a

594
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: moisturizer would be go easy. If you're in Florida and

595
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: your face is sweating at night, you might do a

596
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: scrub because you've had SPF on and sweat. Like, people

597
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: have to start thinking the way that they think about

598
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: how they're eating or what their body wants. People treat

599
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: their skin like it's either a one size fits all

600
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: or they just tell me what to do and every

601
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: day I'm doing that and people don't know, like my

602
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: face needs a moisturizing mask or my face needs a

603
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: detox masks. Like you got to kind of get in

604
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: tune with your own face.

605
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Well, the average person, you know a lot because you're

606
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: doing a lot with skincare all the time, but the

607
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: average person can't go to the drugs are necessarily and

608
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: do it right. I mean they should talk to the

609
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: dermatologists and get a program and stick to that program. Okay,

610
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: because if they go to the drugstore and buy something,

611
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: some of them will be right, some of them won't

612
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: be right, and they'll get a whole mixture of things

613
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: that may count to the other. So I think it's

614
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: important to get a real program and just stick to it.

615
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Very easy to need their and just just let them

616
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: write on a piece of paper what do you do

617
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: at night? What you do in the day, what do

618
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: you do when you're in the sun. And also remember

619
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: i'm buying to see because you're on redin all you

620
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: have to use a sunblox. Some block always goes last,

621
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: by the way, that's the last thing you put on.

622
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: So you should know.

623
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh good question. So what about There's an SPF thirty moisturizer.

624
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: There's an SPF thirty skin tint like a foundation. There's

625
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: an SPF thirty serum. There's a glowy serum SPF so,

626
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: and there's a powder that has SPF. So my feeling

627
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: is how are you going? And then there's a spray

628
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: to put on the top. It's a setting spray because

629
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: then later in the day you could touch it up.

630
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: How do you really believe people should be doing their SPF.

631
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's obviously individual. I mean nothing. You don't

632
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: need more than thirty thirty blocks. You know, the sun

633
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: rays by ninety seven percent. If you get a fifty,

634
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: it's ninety eight. If you go all the way to

635
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: almost one hundred percent, get what's the difference, ninety seven

636
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: versus ninety eight, ninety eight ninety nine. So that's all

637
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: you need is a thirty because when you start getting

638
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: past the thirty, it's not it's cosmetically elegant. It's very

639
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: hard to get a fifty or a sixty. So just

640
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: use a thirty. If the key is how often you

641
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: apply it, you've got to apply it in the sun.

642
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: People don't realize that. And SPF was the guidelines were

643
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: by putting it on every two hours if you're in

644
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: the sun, and that will give you an SPF of thirty.

645
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: If you put it on and.

646
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: You wait five six hours, no longer an SPF for

647
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: thirty anymore.

648
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: What about mineral sunscreen? People alwauld say, oh, but it's

649
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: not mineral, so it doesn't counter. It's not what it

650
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: is that I like.

651
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: Mineral as well because it's you know, it's as opposed

652
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: to chemical. Some people have reactions to chemical sunscreens. They

653
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: don't apps quickly when you put it on. It takes

654
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: about half hour to work.

655
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: The mineral or physical sunscreen they work instantly, and that's

656
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: and that's why people like that and less chance of

657
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: irritation or allergic reaction.

658
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm learning. This is good. Okay, great, So let's

659
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: go into like things that I've heard about, and then

660
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: you'll tell me things I haven't heard about. Okay, you've

661
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: told me that the string. Let's go through like procedures

662
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: that I just hear about in the in the in

663
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: the ether. So what hydro facial bullshit or not bullshit?

664
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

665
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: Hydrofacial actually gets rid of this sebum and oil that's

666
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: in the skin when in the sebations plant and that

667
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: subations plan gets caught up with bacteria with seeb them,

668
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: which is oil and debris dead skin cells.

669
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: And that's what causes is it, that's what comes us.

670
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I think I've had them, and I think it's kind

671
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: of bs like if you have underneath stuff, it needs

672
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: to be like like gotten excavated. I feel I feel

673
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: like that's a SHEI shehi bullshit facial to me, Well.

674
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: What we do here very often we do actually a

675
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: real poor cleansa cleaning with the facialist and then a

676
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: hydro facial, or you can do it the other way around.

677
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: You do a hydrofacial solution everything and then she does

678
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: a real facial in terms of getting out some of

679
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: the see.

680
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: Them and the pus and everything else. That's clauge. Your

681
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: boys komy domes blackheads, so you.

682
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: Can do those little bumps that like teens get. Okay,

683
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: all right, I'll sput the difference with you on that.

684
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm a more hardcore facial person than that.

685
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: What about so do them both together?

686
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: Okay? What about? Where are you on microdermabrasion?

687
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: You know, Michael der Vers is almost a thing in

688
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: the past. Okay, I mean you know, your date, yourself.

689
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it's done that much anymore because.

690
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: We see I love it. I still think it's great.

691
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: I think I know because it's simple, it's easy, and but.

692
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: We have affective but we have these.

693
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: Incredible you know, newer better lasers now that work better

694
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: than micro deva rasion. Yeah, Michael der is a great

695
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: good you know, buff puff. You know, it gets gets

696
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: rid of the dead skin cells really quickly. You're refreshed

697
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: and you glow for you know, for a couple of days.

698
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm not We have it here.

699
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: We do it, but not as often because those people

700
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: that want it, you know, will get sometimes a clear

701
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: and brilliant there.

702
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: I think micro is better than a clear and brilliant.

703
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: I've had them both. I really do better than a

704
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: chemical peel like a quick count I think. I think

705
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: the actual slothing and buffing I think is more effective

706
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: to get the ship off the top of the surface.

707
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: What I really think doing this for like thirty years,

708
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: all of it.

709
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

710
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: It also depends on skin type. You know, there are

711
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: sense of skin types that cannot do a.

712
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: Michael Darren Braide.

713
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay, they get too.

714
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: Read irritated, they have broken blood vessels. The blood vessels

715
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: get broken and don't listen.

716
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: We do it here.

717
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm doing it for twenty years, but I just

718
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: have I think I have so many other things now

719
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: that are I hate to say better but working conjunction

720
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: better than just a Michael Darrel Brade.

721
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so the clear and brilliant, let's go through. We're

722
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna go after the plastic surgery. The clear and brilliant.

723
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: From my perspective, if you get like a CO two

724
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: peel or a fraxle, it's like you're down for seven days.

725
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: You look like a monster. Your face is peeling off,

726
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: and my personal feeling, which doesn't mean it's right, is

727
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: that your skin is such baby. After that, if you

728
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: even walk near the window, the brown spots fly in

729
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: faster and it scares me. Versus like CO two, which

730
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: is like a slow and low like you do it,

731
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: and if you do a couple in a row, you're

732
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: getting not the same effect, but it's not as harsh,

733
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: and I think that's better.

734
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: What do you think, Well, that's interesting, you said, because

735
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: CO two in general is a much more aggressive peel.

736
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: Or a laser.

737
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: Okay, we just bought a laser last week called the

738
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: Helix laser, which I'm really excited about because what it

739
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: does is it actually takes over for the fractal and

740
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: takes over for the CO two. You could actually, if

741
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: most people want fractionally want for pigmentation, get rid of

742
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: pigmentation precancers. Okay, people want CO two want, like if

743
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: they want a deep one, but real deep lines for

744
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: acne scars for.

745
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: Pigmentation.

746
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: Yes, so but with this laser does which is really

747
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: exciting me. And we haven't done a huge amount yet

748
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: because you only got it last week and I've done

749
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: about six people already that are thrilled. Is it combines

750
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: CO two and it finds non a blade of laser

751
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: fractional layer there, So you're combining actually two modalities together.

752
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: So if you want to tone it, I actually tune

753
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: it down very low where you want to get rid

754
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: of the wrinkles and the pigmentation, and and you don't

755
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: want a lot of downtime because it doesn't heat up.

756
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: The spot size is smaller and the spread is smaller,

757
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: so it actually lets you heal quicker than a normal

758
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: CO two.

759
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: But you have the not a bladeer laser that down

760
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: not a blader means get peel from it. Okay, you

761
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: don't get any scamy. It's just a heat and that

762
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: heat heats down the dermis Okay, an axle conjunction with

763
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: the CO two, So you don't get the downtime you

764
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: would get from a normal CO two, but more of

765
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: the effect that.

766
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: Then you would ever get with a CO two the

767
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: old co twos so and more zero downtime.

768
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes you need three days.

769
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: This is no such thing as aero top. Time someone

770
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 2: tells you downtime, run away because you're not getting result.

771
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: That's right.

772
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about three, three to five, you know days,

773
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do that.

774
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: You can do, you can do.

775
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: You have also been dialed down to just a cool

776
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: peel and a coop pill.

777
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: Just that's what I heard about. Tell me about a

778
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: cool pillo. That was my next question.

779
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: Well, we had a cool pill and we actually got

780
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: rid of cool bill for this lays the heel goes.

781
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: It's the coop pills is incorporated into this lass. Okay,

782
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: it's cool.

783
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: So that okay, a cool piel okaytail.

784
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: Would be equivalent of coopio would be a quivalent of

785
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: your buff puff. Okay.

786
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: Just cleaning up the skin, getting rid of dead skin

787
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: on the cell on top of the skin, and you

788
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: have a minimum of redness overnight okay, and no downtime.

789
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you dial that same laser up. You go

790
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: deeper as deep as.

791
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: You want, but the added a blade of makes it

792
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: heats up the skin and you've got the synergistic effect.

793
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: I know, it's very hard to comprehend just talking to you.

794
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: You do it.

795
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: No, you're doing a decent job. You're saying, they compliment

796
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: each other and we didn't have not as extreme.

797
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: It's it's to give that person extreme results without extreme

798
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: down time.

799
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: Okay, and what about like some places just have the

800
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: chemical peel where they put something over your skin. It's

801
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: almost like a chemical solution and it's in. It feels tingly,

802
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: but it's not crazy like what I mean.

803
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: It's mostly glycolic acid that you know that you know

804
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: years ago we use phenol, but no glycolic acid.

805
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: It's a nice, little, you know, feel good thing. I

806
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: think we have all these other things in our our

807
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: mentor that we could.

808
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 3: We could.

809
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: We don't need it. I guess we don't need a peel.

810
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: People come in and they say, I only want a peel.

811
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm used to appeal, please give me a TCA tri Clark.

812
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: You see the acid peel. They go in, they get out,

813
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: It takes ten minutes. Their faces slops off the dead

814
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: skinned skin cells for probably two to three.

815
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 3: Days, and they very fresh.

816
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: I feel like I have other things I can offer them,

817
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: but then they insist they want to appeel so far,

818
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: so be it.

819
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: We give to them peel.

820
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Okay, now let's get into filler. Because so I've done

821
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: botox with you years ago, we did filler one time.

822
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was called wrestling, And I've had

823
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: people like make up all these stories that you can verify,

824
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: and you're allowed. I'm giving you the permission to say

825
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: that I have not been a filler person. I'm not

826
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: saying it's good or bad, but a lot of people,

827
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: and a lot of plastic surgeons really don't think it's

828
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: a great solution, Like that filler is not great, that

829
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: most plastic surgeons don't want to alienate their dermatologists because

830
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: they're referring business back and forth. But that I've heard

831
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: of don't think filler is a great solution by overall.

832
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: Well, it really depends what you're trying to you know.

833
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: Uh, if you look at your face and you've lost

834
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: the volume in your face and your face is sunking

835
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: in and you're not lucky enough to have high cheek

836
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: bones like you do a really great drawer line, Okay,

837
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: putting a filler in and raising the cheek area and

838
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: give it a more defined area. At the same time,

839
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: when you do that, you lift and you get rid

840
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: of as of labial nose line here from the nose

841
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 2: to the mouth, that gets deeper. It gets deeper because

842
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: what happens, your cheek has descended, and if you lift

843
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: that up with a little filler, Yeah, all of a

844
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: sudden you get rid of that line and you've given

845
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: someone a cheek bone where now they can put makeup

846
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: on and and have a defined area where the plastic

847
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: surgeons are against it.

848
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: If you have skin that's loose and hanging, okay, especially

849
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: on the neck, if Phil is not going to do

850
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: very much.

851
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: Okay, So that I understand, that's a good good You're good, Howard.

852
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: This is good, very very educate. Yes, I understand. And

853
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: you're saying, like, the thing that I find is that

854
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: people get people say things like that about the filler.

855
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, you know what, aging sucks too.

856
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: But here we are like, you're not you're not a magician.

857
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: You're saying, I'm going to help you solve some concave

858
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: issues in your face. This is what I have. A

859
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: plasti surgeon has other shit. And then still you guys

860
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: are a magicians, and I've and I don't. I want

861
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: to support women, so I really want to say this

862
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: in a constructive way. When and just like that came out,

863
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: that show that the follow up for Sex and the City,

864
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: the women's faces looked like it's okay to get get

865
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: work and get filler or whatever. It looked like either

866
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: bad work or desperation. And I think it kind of aged,

867
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: Like looking aged can often be better than looking strange

868
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: and fucked up like paul A. Man notices it more

869
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: than when public that her face is fucked up, like

870
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what he's even saying or what it

871
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: could be, but he just will say not meaning he

872
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: he you know, as a mother who's you know, you know,

873
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: an older woman and she hasn't had play surgery, so

874
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's no problem with age. He will just

875
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: look at someone and say like, what is that? And

876
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I think it's you know, either bad

877
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: or too much or not balanced. And it's being said

878
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: about the Morning Show.

879
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: Well, when you have a facelift, okay, you you've pull

880
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: the skin as taught as you want, but if you

881
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: don't have the fat underneath or the collegen or last

882
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: underneath the skin to hold that up, You're going to

883
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: look gaunt. You're gonna look like you got caught in

884
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: a wind tunnel. So after you have a facelift, you

885
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: very often need philip.

886
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: That fill.

887
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: It could be hyaluronic acid, wrestling juveiter, it could be

888
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: even fat. Okay, there's a lot of other fills. There's

889
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: something called sculpture that also that builds collagen. There's so

890
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: many different things. But the key to what you're asking

891
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: here is you have to just be a better version

892
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: of yourself. You can't try to bring your face back.

893
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: You know, when you're fifty and used to be on

894
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: TV at thirty, you're not going to bring it back

895
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: to thirty.

896
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 3: And if you try to bring it back to already,

897
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 3: you're going to look like a cabbage patch doll.

898
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: But how do these doctors do this? They must be

899
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: expensive doctors. These women are rich, really rich.

900
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: So how does someone doctors? Will?

901
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 2: You know, patients want it and they give it to them,

902
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: and sometimes very hard to say to somebody, and they're

903
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: very you know, I mean it's very very very hard.

904
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: But someone insists on I want more, I want more,

905
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: I want to look like my friend.

906
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: I said, well, your friend looks a little freaky, you know,

907
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: and then the friend gets a little anoyed. But you

908
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: got to be carefully fantom and people.

909
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: You don't want people to want.

910
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: You don't even want to walk into a restaurant and

911
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: say you want someone to say, wow, she looks really great.

912
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: You don't want someone to say, oh, my god, look

913
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: all the work she had done.

914
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Advertisements for you. So it's fucked up, like whoever did

915
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: the work on these shows that people are criticizing. It's

916
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: not a great indicator. So what do you do?

917
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: You say no, no, you say no, But they're gonna

918
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: go to someone else. You know that what do you want?

919
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 2: You try to talk it somewhere in between what you

920
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: want and what they want and trying to meet in

921
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: the middle. And you're not going to give them that

922
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: so called cabbage patch look that that we all hate.

923
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 2: You know that that sometimes they puts so much fill

924
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: in their eyes closed, you know, and they look lumpy

925
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: and bumpy in certain lights, and one side is higher

926
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: than the other side because it's hard to make it symmetrical.

927
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean this there less is more, and you do

928
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: it in small incorams. That's what I believe in.

929
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: And what about the lips, like so we want that

930
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: people are getting. There's a young influenza. She's twenty something,

931
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: and she was very honest about like putting filler in

932
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: the lips. Is that filla that's lasting forever? Isn't there

933
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: one that's like forever?

934
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: I know?

935
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: I have the love controversial probaby. I love silicon. I

936
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: think it's one of the few areas Micro Michael dropments

937
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: of silicone that uh that a pure grade silicone, you know,

938
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: medical grade silicone. You don't have any reaction to those.

939
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: And you put small little dropists along the boarderline and

940
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: one in two treatments.

941
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: It's done.

942
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: I sat and you never come back.

943
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: No.

944
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: I did her lips, but also she had a nose done,

945
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: and she had two little dimples and her nose here

946
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: and here you've seen that sucked in.

947
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: Look here I put a drop of silicon. It literally

948
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: took two minutes and two minutes and al sudden she

949
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 3: didn't have to have a noose repair again.

950
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: She hated that that's like your jaw move. I haven't

951
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: heard that before. That's a move.

952
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: Well, because people are afraid of silicone because it's permit,

953
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: which means you've got to do a really good job.

954
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: Because it's permanent. Is good because it's permanent. Permit's bad

955
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: because it's permanent, because.

956
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: You get it out. You're saying, that's Lisa Rinna lips.

957
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: When she did her lips, she did silicon because it was.

958
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: Only what she did. I don't know what she did,

959
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: but that.

960
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: Would be a lot of meaning. So she had to

961
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: keep keeping them the way that she did it, that

962
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: she had to.

963
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: Do it every four and five months if she to

964
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: keep it up.

965
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Wow and wow and can you it's a really subtle difference.

966
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: The silicon. I would like some juicues.

967
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: No, with the silicon, you just do.

968
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: I can tell you so many your friends that I've done,

969
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: and it's ten years ago, and it's held that usually

970
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: need one or.

971
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: Two depends on you have good lips, so you need

972
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 3: you need Maybe I have good lips, Okay, I'm looking

973
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: for now.

974
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: Your little lips look good, so I don't need it.

975
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what you did to it. Maybe maybe

976
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: you uh.

977
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know I had. I would like the silicon

978
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: in the lips.

979
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: Have nice shaped lips? Yeah, you have great lips, but

980
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: with almost no lips skinny skinny scale of those, I

981
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: may have to do four or five treatments on, but

982
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: we do it slowly so they never walk in and say,

983
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: oh my god, what did you do to me? Okay,

984
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen because I never give them that much.

985
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: When you do the ones that are absorbed, you do

986
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 2: you can't give them a lot, and it goes down

987
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: in a couple of days, out of it and disappears

988
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: in three or four months, and they hate it.

989
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 3: You could actually dissolve.

990
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So so you also do light but which we'll

991
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: get into in one second and then I'll let you

992
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: go soon. But the other thing is I heard that

993
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: I thought that. I never knew that BBL was a

994
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: Brazilian butt lift. I just someone. I didn't know that

995
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: that's what that stood for. But that looks like something

996
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: you just go in somewhere they inject something in your ass,

997
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: will come out and you look braziliant. But it's very

998
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: dangerous and.

999
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: Serious, very dangerous, and most guys are not doing that.

1000
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: Most physicians are not doing Brazilian butt lifts. It's it's

1001
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: it's a dangerous procedure. There are some people maybe in

1002
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: great hands, they do it well, but that's not something

1003
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm ever going to recommend to somebody.

1004
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: I think it. There's been too many, there's been you know,

1005
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: actually reported debts with that for it.

1006
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know. That sounds to me like just like

1007
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: going to get your boobs done. I heard. It's not

1008
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: like that. It's very serious.

1009
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: It's totally not that. And a lot of people who

1010
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 3: did it before are not doing it now.

1011
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: Wow, And you think that, like that's the Kardashians. The

1012
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: butts are definitely like Brazilian butt lifts. What else would

1013
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: there be.

1014
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what else it could possibly be.

1015
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: You know, putting sculpture in and keep you have to

1016
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: keep putting it in at me six months and and

1017
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: building up that way. There are ways of building up

1018
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: a buttops besides that. But so I talked to me

1019
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 2: to tell you what they actually had.

1020
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: But obviously something you have to do.

1021
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 3: Something's either being doing continuously or.

1022
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: It stayed okay, And have you noticed it different? So

1023
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: I heard an article that the food supply in this country,

1024
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: it's ozempic, is affecting what's going on at supermarkets. So

1025
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: people are purchasing thirty percent less food. It makes sense.

1026
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: I would have never thought of this, but like thirty

1027
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: percent less food because of ozempic. Now I'm seeing these housewives,

1028
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: not some I'm seeing housewives former housewives. They don't even

1029
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: look like themselves. They're almost like little children. Like I'm thin,

1030
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: and I know that, but I've always been thin, so

1031
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 1: it sort of like works on me, like I'm either

1032
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: a couple of pounds heavier, a couple of pence thinner.

1033
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just my eye seeing it,

1034
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: or if it's actually strange and unnatural like previously somewhat

1035
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: thin people, or maybe they were like, you know, a

1036
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: size that was totally reasonable and not overweight, and now

1037
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: they look like they're like young children. It looks bizarre

1038
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: to me, and I don't I don't. I want to

1039
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: know if that's affecting you. And like light bull and plastic.

1040
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: They look them they look them emaciated okay that's the word, okay,

1041
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 2: And and they don't look like themselves. But sometimes they're

1042
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: thin in the body and they look going through the face.

1043
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: So when they come in I kind of fix their

1044
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: face up, meaning I give them a little I plump

1045
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: up their skin and give a little definition around the

1046
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: jaw line, because all of a sudden everything starts.

1047
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: To hang, you know.

1048
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: It's you know, oh yeah, yeah, I.

1049
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: Mean you start losing the structure that your skin hangs on,

1050
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: and skin becomes very very loose, and really it just hangs.

1051
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: It's drastic. If your body's been in the same body

1052
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: for fifty years and then you decide to like have

1053
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: drastic twenty five pounds weight loss, there's going to be

1054
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: something that's so true.

1055
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: You know, most people.

1056
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: In earlier years, like you know, forties, fifty sixties, it's

1057
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: the neck that goes okay, And I think I once

1058
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: told you about. I'm excited about a new procedure we

1059
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: just have now. It's called my elevate. It's a very

1060
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: simple procedure. You ever see the bands on your neck here?

1061
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you I have. You've got to get done, and

1062
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: you have little so it's a little suture that he

1063
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: goes across, comes across here, and it cuts the bands

1064
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: and the bands go up and bands go down, and

1065
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: you go around with.

1066
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: The suture underneath the skin. You tie the skin tight. Yeah,

1067
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: of course, it's beautiful. It's an hour procedure. So instead

1068
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: of getting cut your neck, you know, whole neck here

1069
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: and get cut here and to pull your neck back

1070
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: and and that's you know, it's a major surgery. This

1071
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: is a local anesthesia. This is a suture that cuts

1072
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: the skin. It's a brochure, but it's my elevate my

1073
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: elevate a little piece of tape here for three days

1074
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: and it gets rid of the bands and it tightens

1075
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: the skin underneath.

1076
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't do anything for the drawer line. It's the

1077
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 3: skin underneath your neck.

1078
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: And what you do is I do it with light

1079
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: bul suction. So I will do that in a light

1080
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: ol suction. The drawing mine as well, and any fat

1081
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: in the neck. And you do that combination together. And

1082
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: we sometimes will do that with vavashi, which is a

1083
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: lake he said, tightens the skin as well.

1084
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: You do all three the same time and you get

1085
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 3: a tight net.

1086
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: And basically it's surgery, but it's it's on the local anesthesia.

1087
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: It's called okay. And then and you guys do I

1088
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: did m skulp, But you have to stick to it.

1089
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: I did it once or twice. I'm like, it squeezes

1090
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: your stomach and it squeezes you, but it's like it's

1091
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: doing the push ups for you.

1092
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's you know, it's an easy way

1093
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: out of going to the gym, but it's also gets

1094
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: you going. Once you see some results, you go to

1095
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: the gym. Because I know, when I don't go to

1096
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: the gym, I don't go to the gym. When I

1097
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: start going to the gym, I don't want to miss

1098
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: the gym.

1099
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just gives you.

1100
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 3: A jump start, excuse me, a jump start.

1101
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: Okay, and then I don't go. But that thing, yeah,

1102
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: I've been on that thing, but it's it's it's literally

1103
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass.

1104
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: Well.

1105
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: And then last, but probably not least, the strings. I

1106
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: know that you're against those strings that make people like

1107
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: look cold and weird.

1108
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: I've never been a thrigg guy, you know, taking those

1109
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: sings and throwing it across the cheek line or jaw line,

1110
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 3: and they don't last. They have a tenny none of

1111
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: the last about three four months. That's it. Because if

1112
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: you notice, when the people put the string in, they

1113
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 3: also give you phillip.

1114
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: Very rarely does someone do string without doing filler. And

1115
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: it's really the filler that does most of the job.

1116
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: The string is like a little addedive thing.

1117
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: And and I've seen too many people where they have

1118
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 3: the string and the string, you know, tendency to poke

1119
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: out over a period of time. It looks like it

1120
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: comes to pokes out like a splinter. How do you

1121
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: get it?

1122
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: It depends how it's put in, of course not it

1123
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 2: doesn't happen to everybody, but I've seen enough people where

1124
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: that happens. Or if someone goes like this with the

1125
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: hand and the strings across here, the string pops.

1126
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know the string even though it hears

1127
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: uh as you go like this, it's easy to pop.

1128
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: You get it in?

1129
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: How they get it? Get it in out?

1130
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: How do you get the string in and out? What

1131
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: it's like.

1132
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 3: It's just a little opening with a little oak anesthesia.

1133
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: And you stick the string and you you're threaded through

1134
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: the through the area you want to go. And then

1135
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: and then you push down and it has a locking mechanism. Okay,

1136
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: and then you pull on it.

1137
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: And it tightens the skin. It tightens it because it

1138
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: locks in underneath your skin.

1139
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: So when do you study bob wire.

1140
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: It goes like bobed wire. It goes underneath the skin

1141
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 3: and locks in, but it can it could break. But

1142
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 3: more importantly, I find that it just doesn't last that long.

1143
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: We do it. It pushes me to do it. I'll

1144
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 3: do it, but I also do with filler, and I'll

1145
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: do with all the other things I like to do

1146
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: with some of the lasers and the tightening. Not just

1147
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: thread alone, but the one thing I do thread alone

1148
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: is the one I just said. The my elevate is

1149
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 3: also a thread, but it's it's a polyastic braided thread

1150
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: that lasts indefinite. There's no reaction to it. It's underneath

1151
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: the skin and so.

1152
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: Many years things that just you don't have to do again.

1153
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: Like you like you want to do silicon properly so

1154
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to do it. I like that. I

1155
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: agree with that. I don't want to go in. I don't.

1156
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I got my hair cut and colored for the first time,

1157
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: like with intention in five years. Like to go to

1158
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: somebody and be like, hi, somebody, what are we going

1159
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: to do today? Like it's just been drive by trims

1160
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: or coloring it myself. It was a disaster. So I'm

1161
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: I like to rather go do something and it's gonna

1162
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: last for a really long time. How do you have

1163
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: time to study all this science when you're working in

1164
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: the office.

1165
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, obviously there's weekends and that's my

1166
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: time on Mondays. My time Mondays is put together all

1167
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: the different you know, lasers that come out, different procedures

1168
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: that come out, and go through the journals and just

1169
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: making sure that that I'm up to date.

1170
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: You know. It's it's easy in this world and things

1171
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 3: are moving so fast, especially technology wise, that you've got

1172
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: to be up on it, Okay, you know, I.

1173
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: Will say I always say that to people. You're like, listen,

1174
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: you play basketball, you got a cool sun whatever. You

1175
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: go out and you're out about town or all the

1176
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: cool restaurants. You're like a skin dork.

1177
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: You really are.

1178
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: You go to those conferences, those like boring medical conferences

1179
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: and learn all that stuff, like I do think, and

1180
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: you're not into all the gimmicks, which I do like

1181
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: some gimmicks because you've got to be into some gimmicks

1182
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: and you got to you can't be like, you know,

1183
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: have a simple you know, what's it called placard on

1184
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: the door. But I feel like you're based in science

1185
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: and you do study a lot.

1186
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think we've been ahead of the game,

1187
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: like liposuction. I was one of the first guys in

1188
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: nineteen eight hinty eighty five to do liposuction. You know,

1189
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: we have an accredit operating room, so it's safe, and

1190
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, of course, the skincare line was one of

1191
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: the first. And I think pretty much every lazer that

1192
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: comes out, we get it right at the beginning. That's

1193
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: good and bad because when you get a laser in

1194
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: the beginning, you're also testing it out.

1195
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: Even though you'll be tested out, but you're testing out

1196
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: in your own hands. Yeah, until you become familiar.

1197
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: And then when you become familiar, that same laser works

1198
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: so much better for you later on because you have

1199
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: learned how to use it. Okay, it's like getting into

1200
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: a car.

1201
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: Okay, So well, I think you're great. I've always liked you.

1202
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: I met you years ago, and I'm out in the

1203
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: city all the time. But when I am and ken,

1204
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: you're the only like dermatologist that I have. You know,

1205
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: that's like a unless it's like can someone come over

1206
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: to the house and uh do the botox for the jaw,

1207
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: which I don't always love. I think you're you're You're good.

1208
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: I think it's not easy to stay ahead of it.

1209
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I think you're doing a good job, and I think

1210
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: your products are really really good. And I have to

1211
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: say that my daughter was I don't want to talk

1212
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: about her that much with this, but she was experiencing

1213
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: some skin issues, as an girl her age does. And

1214
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: it was right before back to school, and like she

1215
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: was had been in camp and had like this terrible

1216
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: thing happened from this dirty room and I was apoplectic.

1217
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: And it was two days before school and I called Howard.

1218
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: He was home in his house in the Hampton's and

1219
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, we have to come over. He was his

1220
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: son was there. I was like, this is like, we

1221
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: have to come over. And you were like wearing normal clothes.

1222
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: I had this like toolkit that I literally bought myself

1223
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: at a drug store. And you really helped her out.

1224
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: And she really likes you, and you know your good dad,

1225
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: and she liked coming in and like being like, well, no,

1226
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: I want to go to doctor Solby. I have his products,

1227
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: and she's got your closin in the friege and so

1228
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: like she's so nice, is my kid.

1229
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 3: She's a good girl. You know.

1230
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 2: I wanted to mention because you and I talked about

1231
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: it with COVID and a lot of people. Thirty percent

1232
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: of people that have COVID have been having hair loss

1233
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: problems and over a real long period of time. And

1234
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: the only real answer for that was no real answer

1235
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: to hair loss was was you know doing PRP when

1236
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: you take the blood from someone's vein and then you

1237
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: spin it down, you get the plasmah and the plasma

1238
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: has a growth factors. That was so painful when I

1239
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: did it on my own scalp several times, it was

1240
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: very painful, and it works. It slows down the hair loss,

1241
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: it increases the diameter.

1242
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: Of the hair.

1243
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: When you get regrowth, it's questionable, but somebody that came

1244
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: out about six months ago.

1245
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: We have the first machine. It's called Altlet head t

1246
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: ED and the what it does is it actually you

1247
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: get the growth factors from the company that you order

1248
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: me automatically get from your plasma. You put it on

1249
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: the scalp and by ultrasound it delivers the product into

1250
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: the scalp, into the hair filecle and you're getting the

1251
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: same results that you see with p r P, which

1252
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: means decrease hair loss, increasing the diameter of the hair.

1253
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 3: And we also what we also do is give you

1254
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: a topical as well, different topical.

1255
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: For female definitely women. I have hair. I love that,

1256
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: and we'll talk.

1257
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: About women than men because women have a tendency just to.

1258
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: Thin out in the front. And then the light shines

1259
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: on the head. You can see the scalp.

1260
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: Right here.

1261
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it it looks full.

1262
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: But also his hand lost nones and it doesn't hurt.

1263
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: All right, I'm into that. And another time we'll talk

1264
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: about like what your perceived other reactions to the vaccine

1265
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: not getting it, Like not that you're being political, but

1266
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of different stuff in my

1267
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: own life and looked online and this was amazing. Uh.

1268
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that I have your retinol. I need

1269
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: to get it now that you were.

1270
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: Selling yea col coal, just send it to you.

1271
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: Awesome, this was really good, like really great. Oh, where

1272
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: can they get your products? That's what I want to know.

1273
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: Where can they get your own that.

1274
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: They can order from my office? Or dot com would

1275
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: probably be the easiest.

1276
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: So for a dot com they love for perfect Okay, yeah, yeah, fantastic,

1277
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: talk to you later

1278
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: Okay, bye bye,