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Speaker 3: Yeah, angry, And I think the people, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But you're like, but they don't realize how we show

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Speaker 2: Yes, And you taken so much and you're taken so much, yes,

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like talking today, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: Like some days you just got to turn off and

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Speaker 1: I know you have that. I'm a cancer. So I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and I don't And I don't care,

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Speaker 3: because you're entitled to have that. I I want you.

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Speaker 2: I want you to know we see you. And and

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Speaker 2: I do believe your voice is special and it is needed.

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Speaker 2: So even in those times where it may feel like

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Speaker 1: house of like volume. My mom is a loud talker, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I am also a loud talker. Then I was

436
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Speaker 1: a gymnast, so I was yelled at all day. Then

437
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Speaker 1: marsh life, listen, that's a harsh one.

438
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Speaker 4: No.

439
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: Then I went to theater, and that was how our

440
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: teacher taught in theater, Like you were just yelled at.

441
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: So it's also been like an actual undoing of like

442
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: learned behavior in realizing that like that's not the most

443
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: effective or even the best representative of myself right, Like

444
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie to you like I would say.

445
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Speaker 2: That.

446
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: There's like the passion level, and then there's like the Okay,

447
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: you're loud, and I'm really always constantly trying to work

448
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: on like not going to the your loud level, which

449
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: I'm also which being with a man will force you

450
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: to do because niggas ain't really having that.

451
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to hear it. I don't want

452
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: to hear I don't want to hear you talking to

453
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: you all the things.

454
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you, But to your point, if I came at

455
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: you like this and you wasn't really hearing me, and

456
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: then I came at you like this again and you

457
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: wasn't hearing me, this only one way to.

458
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Speaker 2: Go, right, Listen, you didn't tell me because usually I'm

459
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: gonna come like this first, and I'm like, I tried

460
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: to be sweet though, like cause you already know.

461
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: But anyway, whatever, I okay.

462
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: So I have to ask you this.

463
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: This is so funny.

464
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: I everybody smart, black and funny genus funny, smart, funny

465
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Speaker 2: and black genius.

466
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: I was on it and didn't win.

467
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: The money. The other day, he told me, And you're

468
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: doing and you're taking it on the road and you've

469
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: done this before, you've been on the road before.

470
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 3: What is gonna do? Yeah, so what's different this time

471
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: than before prior to COVID.

472
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything necessarily different. I think we've

473
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: added some elements to the show. We do like a

474
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: whole happy Birthday segment to the show. We are constantly

475
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: adding different songs to the show based on the games.

476
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: We are in Brooklyn on the twenty ninth, so there's,

477
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, there's an element of the show

478
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: on in the Brooklyn show where we're adding just having

479
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: folks come dress as their favorite character, black character or icon,

480
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: and you don't have to come dress as that. But

481
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: we also we I've announced one of our black spurts

482
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: or that's our word for contestant, which is gonna be

483
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Speaker 1: method Man.

484
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh lord, I'm coming just to see meth Man says, Listen.

485
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: When anyone who knows me knows I have a wool

486
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: tang fanatic like Killo Bee's on the swamp sick, listen

487
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: like a big, big xamp.

488
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: So does anybody get to talk to him besides you?

489
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: Because I will come for that.

490
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Does anybody get to do in this place and be

491
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: in his presence besides you, he is too fine.

492
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: It's really it's really it's iconic level findeness, like you

493
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And he's nice, he's so, oh

494
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: my gosh, the nicest, like just and consistent. Meth has

495
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: been the exact same person since I met him in

496
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: like two thousand and six, the same person and always

497
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Speaker 1: just honestly, I can say that for like the members

498
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: of the Woo that I know, like Ray Kwan, Ghosts,

499
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: the Jizza, the Rizza, like they're always very just like kind, respectful,

500
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: like they've never come at me sideways. A little story.

501
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: So one time when I had met the Riza, he

502
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: invited me to come to an Oscar party and when

503
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: I got to the address, it was a hotel. Uh.

504
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: And I texted him and I was like, I'm not

505
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: sure who you think I am. I know what you

506
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: think I'm about, but I'm not going to come to

507
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: your hotel room to watch the Oscars. And he called me.

508
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: He's like, uh, it's a penthouse. There's several people here,

509
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Tegula pis on the swamp. Sez I get upstairs. It's

510
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: like Erica Alexander, like the whole castle and who take show.

511
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, guy, sorry about this. Yay.

512
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what you think this is, but I.

513
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: He learned that day.

514
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 3: He's like, come on in here, no one's here to

515
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: harm you. I don't about there's.

516
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: Literally about face set up Like I hate that. I

517
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: hate that. Okay, fine, I JK. But you know what, Listen,

518
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: I come from hip hop like you gotta let people know.

519
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: You gotta let people know because they will try it.

520
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: I know we're not going anywhere. I really do need

521
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: your help.

522
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: You can fast forward through these commercials and then just

523
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: come right back, okay, because I need job to help

524
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 2: me out.

525
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: We got more with the Manda seels on the other

526
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Speaker 3: side of the break.

527
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 4: Every champion and Cary champions to be a champion out

528
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 4: a champion and Cary Champion and carry chat beat a

529
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: champion and carry Chappion and carry.

530
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: Chap entertainment and Naked Work.

531
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Speaker 4: Every champion and carry champion is to be a Champia

532
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: champion and carry Champion. Nigga got champion and care with

533
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: Chapion and care with shep.

534
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Work.

535
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to Naked Aman to see you.

536
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: Let's do music because I have said and you and I.

537
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: I'm not about to make this all about people we know,

538
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: but Kendrick Carter told me you are arguably the most

539
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: talented person she has ever met, which to me explains

540
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: your need to do so many different things at once

541
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: because it just comes naturally. This is what Kendrick said.

542
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: She was like, sings Dan, how is Kendra. She's doing good,

543
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: She's doing really good. Yeah, I'm gonna tat, I'm gonna

544
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: pep and she she talks about the time y'all was

545
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: friends walking to New York City streets hanging out.

546
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: She comes see you perform.

547
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Wait, can I just give a big up to her?

548
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Real quick? Yes, I just give a big up when

549
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm When I moved to Los Angeles, I knew that

550
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: I wanted my life to be different. So that was

551
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I moved to Los Angeles.

552
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: I was like, if you want drastic change, you gotta

553
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: make drastic moves. So I moved across the nation from

554
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: New York to Los Angeles. And one of the things

555
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to change was that I wanted to be

556
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: a part of work that had more value to it

557
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: because a lot of the work that I was doing

558
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: with a lot of pop culture stuff that was kind

559
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: of just like flash in the pan, like you know,

560
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: you say a little joke, but it didn't have like actual,

561
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: like gravitas to it. And I knew that I was

562
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: going to have to do scripted television like that just

563
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: felt like. I was like, that's next in my path.

564
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: But no one at my agency would would would send

565
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: me out on auditions. They would not send me out

566
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: on scripted auditions. They were like, no, you're a digital talent.

567
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: You're a digital talent. And so I had to then

568
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: go to my resources and I hit up Kendrick Carter

569
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, is there any way you can

570
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: get me a meeting with the scripted department at NBC?

571
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: And she was like, say less done, set it up.

572
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: I went and met with them. My agent hits me like, hey,

573
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: did you see a meeting at NBC? Yes? I did, Yes,

574
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: I did. Sure did that. Y'all would not set me

575
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: up with and started that that her allowing that, like

576
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: her making that happen forced my agency to then send

577
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: me out on auditions, which is how I ended up

578
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: auditioning for Insecure to them.

579
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Speaker 3: Wow wow within for Wow Wow Wow Wow. Does she

580
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: know that story.

581
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I don't think she does.

582
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got to put you guys on text

583
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: after this. Okay, that's powerful and she but she's never

584
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: This is one thing we both love about her as

585
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: someone who can recognize talent. She's never I've never seen

586
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: her off.

587
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: She just knows.

588
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: She's like, no amdic can do it all. And so

589
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: with that being said, I don't know if a lot

590
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: of people knew you were in Flower Tree you were

591
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: war with I don't know. I don't know if they

592
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: know that you replaced one of the members and went

593
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: on tour. You have such a not even considering that

594
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: you have a master's from Columbia, which is so hard

595
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: to get into period. Right, you had this true intellect,

596
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: then you have created this this this brand for yourself

597
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: and this showcase that you're taking on the road. Then

598
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: you're an actress. Then you're like, you can do it all.

599
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: Does that get cumbersome for you or confuse the vision?

600
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: It's cumbersome because I what I'm not really good at

601
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: is marketing and like business strategy. Like I'm not a dummy,

602
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: so I can like create opportunities for myself to keep

603
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: things going. But I am not enterprising in the way

604
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: that I see some of my peers be. And I'm

605
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: not sure yet if that's a good or I'm not

606
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: sure yet if that's held me back or if that's

607
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: kept me sane.

608
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: Like that's a fair question, because.

609
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: Ultimately people are like, why aren't you you know what

610
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean?

611
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: Like, and.

612
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I think there's something that happens when you mix creativity

613
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: with commerce, right, like with capitalism, Like there's a piece

614
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: of you that you lose in that change.

615
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: You said it earlier. You are free thinkers. You don't

616
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: have to worry about being tied to right or a

617
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: brand or what. You can say what comes to your mind.

618
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: So that's why it's authentic.

619
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: So like Bebbie Smith is always like a voice who

620
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: will just like poke her head in to be like,

621
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: keep going. Your path is different. Keep going because because

622
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you just think, like, am I doing what I'm

623
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing? Should I have a certain level

624
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: of you know, at one point it felt like should

625
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: I have a certain level of fame? I don't feel

626
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: that way anymore, because I really fame is like this

627
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: weird thing that I'm not really interested in. But what

628
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: I am interested in is options and being able to

629
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: have like the options to create without so many barriers

630
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: and so much convincing, Right, But you come to understand

631
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: that like the people who kind of fand away, the

632
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: people who navigate that very deathly, they are they have

633
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: a different relationship to their art. So that's why so

634
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: many people have like a business person who's like their

635
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: partner or that works alongside them, who thinks that way,

636
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: Because I'm the one who's like, Okay, so what we

637
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: can do is all right, yes, okay, I want to

638
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: do a game show, and then it's but to be

639
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: like black history, but then it's also a sing along.

640
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: And then it's also you know, so like I got

641
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: you on that, I got you on that. But then

642
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: there's also the people who are like, but why don't

643
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: you have sponsors yet?

644
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

645
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, because I don't really know how

646
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: to do that same.

647
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: But and I do, and I do understand the frustration

648
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: of someone being like you should already have that. You're

649
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: just like, it doesn't work that way. It just doesn't.

650
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't. It's a

651
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: different capacity. How many times a day do you get

652
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: why don't you have your own show. Oh girl, I'm alway,

653
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: I don't know well, and I started it with you

654
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: and normally now I receive it as that's a compliment

655
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: you want mine.

656
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: It isn't to hear me.

657
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: You want to hear me who wants to be like

658
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: but no, before you're like, well, because you ain't got

659
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: your own show, you know what I mean? Are they

660
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: giving out shows to black girls little black girls around

661
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: the way they should?

662
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: They really should? I really You had said earlier that

663
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: you feel like I would I should have like my

664
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: own daily show, and I feel like a lot of

665
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: people are like a man, I should do the Daily Show.

666
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I would not do the Daily Show for a number

667
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: of reasons, right, But one of them is like I

668
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: would not want to live in New York again for that,

669
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: just like indefinitely. But the other reason is because, like

670
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: you said something where you were like, you know, you

671
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: like kind of like wax poetic and philosophize on topics

672
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: beyond like what people are talking about, and it's like

673
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: that that's the show I would want, Like I don't

674
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: want the show where I'm telling you the news, Like

675
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I want the show where you already know the news

676
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: and I'm providing and ideating and considering other things about that,

677
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: which is what I thought I was going to get

678
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: to do with the real Yeah, you know, like just

679
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: cause it's like when you have these topics, there's only

680
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: so much you can say about like the fact. It's

681
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: like these are the facts. But then it's like, how

682
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: do you yes, yes, you know what I mean, Like,

683
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: how do you expound upon that? How do you like

684
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: make that relatable? How do you apply that to like

685
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: bigger concepts of our socialization of patriarchy, et cetera, et cetera.

686
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: Like that's the stuff I'm interested.

687
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: In, Yeah, the teaching of it all because you are

688
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: a professor. So yes, yeah, that's also something Kindri used

689
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: to call you. She said she needs to go in

690
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: and go ahead and just be a professor.

691
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what she's doing.

692
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: Thought about it. I thought about it. I really like

693
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: when I was I was trying to move to When

694
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to move to La, I was trying

695
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: to figure out how I was going to do it

696
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: because it seemed like such a BMS task, like the

697
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: money and then where you're gonna live, and then the job.

698
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: And I had become friends with my sister Tommy Crump

699
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: who's an exec and Toya. So Tommy is just that

700
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: is my sister from another mister and Tommy. I just

701
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: remember Tommy sipping a glass of wine and being like,

702
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: what did you get like a PhD fellowship and like

703
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: that to pay for it? And I was like, you

704
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: sound just like her too, though, right, you know, Tommy

705
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: is Tommy is part of my Uh, Tommy is a

706
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: part of like the character shaping that I did for Tiffany.

707
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: Oh real, are you kidding me?

708
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: Yes? She never told me that. She doesn't tell people

709
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: because she's like, I don't like it. Tiffany Dubois of

710
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: Insecure is based on my friend Tommy Crump, who is

711
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: just as like Studio corporate as she as she is

712
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: Philly to the bone. Okay, so she's both of those things.

713
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: And then the other part of my character shaping for

714
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: Tiffany Duban Insecure was Chante Moore in the Chante's Got

715
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: a Man video that.

716
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: Yes, as I'm screaming yes, yes, that.

717
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Chantey Moore like started following me and

718
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, like it's the

719
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: worlds are colliding.

720
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: Wait a second, she took a sip of wine and say,

721
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: why don't you just get a PhD Fellow show?

722
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Exactly? That's exactly what she would say, Yeah, casual, why

723
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: don't you just do that? That's like when my mom,

724
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: like in like two thousand and four, just like turned

725
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: to me casually on the couch and was like, you

726
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: know who you should do a song with Lenny Gravitz?

727
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh should I? Okay, let me give him a ring.

728
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: I think that's where the defense that you would have

729
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: around like people saying why don't you have a show,

730
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: That's where it comes from. It's like this idea that

731
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: you're like turning down shows. Yeah, you know, you know,

732
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: like like like there's just like like your It's like

733
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: when people say, like why don't you have a man?

734
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: If there were so many options? Get? I mean like

735
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: that used to blow my mind when people say, like

736
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: I want one, Like why are we acting as if

737
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: we're like getting dropped off at good Nigga Island and

738
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: we're just like no, no, no, he's too short, No

739
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: he's too fine. Like that's not a thing that's happening. Okay,

740
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: it's good, amen, listen, I'm I There has not been

741
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: a charted course yet and I'm literally trying to find it.

742
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: Like I talked to my dude all the time about

743
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: like where where'd you come from? Like whey out at

744
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: uh huh.

745
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: He's like, it's just me. I'm one of one.

746
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: I would set apart for you. I'm one of one

747
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: set apart for you, nobody else. I won't believe that

748
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: every time. Every time I see you, I'm just like,

749
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: we're gonna get her a boom. It's coming, it's coming.

750
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: And my show was coming, as is your show.

751
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 3: It's coming.

752
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. There's a large part of me that

753
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: also just feels like I've been a late bloomer in

754
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: every facet of my life. So like why wouldn't I

755
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: be a late bloomer in like the show facet? Like

756
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: why wouldn't I Like I was a late bloomer in

757
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: like physical development. I've been a late bloomer and even

758
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: just like my own sense of awareness and health and healing, right,

759
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: and like I when I got with my partner, we

760
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: were together in college and then we like lived separate

761
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: lives and then we came back together. But I wouldn't

762
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: have been able to receive him like literally six months earlier. Correct,

763
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have could.

764
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: I feel my work because you were doing the work.

765
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: I was like, in the thick of the flicking, I

766
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: know about it. Yeah, that work.

767
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: It's and it's hard, and you got to sit with

768
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: these uncomfortable as feelings and realizations of who you are

769
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: and just you're like, oh my god, yes, yeah, yeah,

770
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: you're like okay, and it's all the printing period because

771
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: yes we want our partner, Yes we want our show,

772
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: and it is in due time. And I think the

773
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: daily show comment is just about and and it's hard

774
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: for people to receive compliments.

775
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: So just just just hear me.

776
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: No, I receive it. I receive it as totals received because.

777
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: As someone who sees everyone pop up with a show

778
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: on air, it's very in this world of our attention

779
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: span is like this. If someone is literally waiting to

780
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: hear what you have to say to the very end,

781
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: it's very important to know that your voice means a lot.

782
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: It may not.

783
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: I'd rather have a super small dope following instead of

784
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: like thirty million people who don't even pay attention to

785
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: me quantity every single day, and so it is it

786
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: is you are constantly top of mind when people are

787
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: talking about did you hear what a man to said

788
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: the other day about such and such?

789
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: So that's new, Like I did not really realize that,

790
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Like I genuinely did not really realize that until we

791
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: started going outside again. Oh okay, because you know, we

792
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: was in this pandemic and we were all in the house.

793
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm saying. So I was be on my phone

794
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: because I'm in the house. Okay, Like I'm just I'm

795
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: in a house. So I got a thought, let me

796
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: share it. I'm in the house, okay.

797
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

798
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: And if I'm being honest, I think the inter net

799
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: connection kind of helped me mainsaying in the isolation of

800
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: the quarantine and the first two years of the pandemic,

801
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: because I didn't feel safe to go out and tour.

802
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: I didn't feel safe to go out and like keep

803
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: doing the art thing that I was doing. And so

804
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: it was like this last thread of like, Okay, I

805
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: can still be expressive and get something back, right. And

806
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: so then when we started going outside again, people would

807
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: be coming up to me, like our peers would be

808
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: coming up to me and saying, like, girl, I've been

809
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: following you throughout this whole in this pandemic. You got

810
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: me through this pandemic. I'm like, for real.

811
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: And that.

812
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: Was something I kind of just didn't I just wasn't

813
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: truly aware of, and it heightened my It heightened my

814
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: consciousness about like shifting. I realized I had to shift

815
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: my focus that I've been really kind of following the

816
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: normal track of like I need to get these executives

817
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: to care about me. I need to get this industry

818
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: to get to care about me. And I realized, like, no,

819
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: what you need to do is preserve the connection you

820
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: have with the audience that cares about you, and you

821
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: need to put your energy into that, into figuring out

822
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: how to do that, which is why I decided, like,

823
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: let me go on tour. And so I've been on

824
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: tour with the Black Outside Again Tour since since June,

825
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: and it's been it's been of a journey. It's been

826
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: a bit of a journey because one of my partners

827
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: along the way in the tour, like didn't really show

828
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: up in the way that I would have liked them too,

829
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: and so it caused my tickets to not move in

830
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: the way that they normally.

831
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: Do, and.

832
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: There was this worry by them that like Oh, well,

833
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do shows where you only sold thirty percent

834
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: of the house because it's going to be embarrassing for you.

835
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, they could have not been

836
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: more wrong. Because when you are folks like us who

837
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: like people, aren't like fans of, they're supporters of, it's

838
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: a different it's a different energy. Like they're showing up.

839
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: It's like every person equals six people. Yeah I say it,

840
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: like they're showing up with full one hundred percent, Like

841
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm here. So even if even if I'm in a

842
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: venue that's supposed to have two thousand people and there's

843
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: only seven hundred people there, it feels five thousand because

844
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: they rock what you heavy, you know what I mean,

845
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: and you're thank you out for coming out.

846
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they have your back.

847
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: It is it is Honestly, I think something that you said,

848
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: the pandemic gave you and yes, you did give it back.

849
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: But when you're sought after for opinion, much like you know,

850
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: our brother Sharp, people want to hear what you have

851
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: to say. It's part of the culture. You're a voice

852
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: of the culture, and as it's happening, you don't know

853
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: it's happening, but it's happening in real time.

854
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: I can name twenty.

855
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: Thirty people, but it's just happening in real time, and

856
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: it could be a conversation at the dinner table about

857
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: what you said about what's going on with the city

858
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: council here in La, which I'm I mean, you got me,

859
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: had me fired up, just not the videos with you

860
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: not looking and just making faces are hilarious.

861
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: So listen. Someone commented that video was reposted, and someone

862
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: in the comments said, you know what upsets me about

863
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: this is these videos where someone is reacting to what

864
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: other people said and judging them as if they're perfect.

865
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: Amanda Seale's better hope no videos or recordings leak of her.

866
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: And I thought that was interesting, and I was like,

867
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I have absolutely said shit that people

868
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: will take and run with, right, nothing like that, but

869
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure let me just disclaim her that. But that

870
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: being said, I'm like my response to that was, I

871
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: think what's odd to me is that you because he

872
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: was like, it feels like this is for entertainment value,

873
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: and so what's odd to me is that you feel

874
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: that like bolstering an entertainment aspect to the revelation of information.

875
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: That people should know about. It is like that that

876
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: somehow devalues the information that they're being shown. And in

877
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: my opinion, I feel like what I've been really fortunate

878
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: to figure out is how to use my entertainment value

879
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: to create education and make it edutainment. So like that

880
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: situation with the woman in the LACD council and the

881
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: other two members and them talking very disparagingly about Indigenous

882
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: people in Mexico as well as about this black child,

883
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: et cetera, Like that is information that folks need to

884
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: know absolutely, because these are people who are in legislative

885
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: like and like rulemaking and law making positions, and if

886
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: they are holding biases against the people in their constituency,

887
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: then they are not the doer you should be in

888
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: that job. And if I got to make a video

889
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: reacting to make to grandize or amplify that, then.

890
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: So be it.

891
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: Then so be it.

892
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Because you you make it so simple and so plain,

893
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: then you're like, I am outraged. You mean to tell

894
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 2: me we here, we are all marginalized black and brown folks,

895
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: so we're all against each other. So the blacks are

896
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: with the blacks and the whites are what the heck

897
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: are we doing.

898
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: What is the point.

899
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the thing is is that not all

900
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: brown folks are brown folks. So like there's you know,

901
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: within the Latin X or Hispanic community, you know, you

902
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: have Afro Latino Afro LATINX people, and then you have

903
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, indigenous people. But then you have the white

904
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: folks who are the descendants of slaves. And you know,

905
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: I think they call they call the mestizo, but they

906
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: they consider themselves adjacent to whiteness, and they're like, we're

907
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna be I say, I A would say, like they

908
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the next Italian. Yeah, yeah, because

909
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: Italians were not considered white. And then it was like

910
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: we need more folks, We need more folks. Y'all could

911
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: be white, y'all could be white, Like white whiteness is

912
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: a Whiteness is a moving goalpost that only consist, that

913
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: only contains it's power by numbers. Right. So that's why

914
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: like when you see this whole Roe v. Wade thing,

915
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: and there's a theory that this has to do with

916
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: there being fewer white babies born like that completely supports that,

917
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: like there has to be it's a I saw this

918
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: brother speaking the other day. I'm so mad. I don't

919
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: have his name in my mind right now, but he

920
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: was saying, racism is a team sport. He's like as

921
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: a team sport, and so if you have the deeper bench,

922
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: you can fight the fight like you can keep yourself

923
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: on top. And I look at black folks all the

924
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: time and say, you know, we miss we have missed

925
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: the boat on realizing the incredible depth and power that

926
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: we have simply just in numbers.

927
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: In numbers and sticking together and we have we have

928
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: no concept of the power that we have.

929
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: And we love to say we're not a monolith. And

930
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, but we could stand to be a little

931
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: bit more.

932
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: We could, we could be a little more one I

933
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: and whatever I can. Started to talk about that all day. Girl,

934
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: get me fired up on your people.

935
00:47:59,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: But I love you.

936
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: I love you.

937
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 4: Every champion and Cary champion is to be a champion

938
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: out a champion and cary chappion and carry chap out

939
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 4: a champion and carry chappion and carry.

940
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 2: Chap entertainment can naked word kerry.

941
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: Champion and carry Champion is to be a champion of

942
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 4: champion and carry champion. Champion and carry Champion and carried.

943
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: Chap entertainment word.

944
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: I do say this with my understanding of your eduitainment.

945
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel, because I used to say this

946
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: all the time, you talk every day on TV bound

947
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: the stations, it's just gonna happen. Do you ever feel

948
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 2: that you want to not be in the game after

949
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: a bad day on Social? Do you ever feel like

950
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm packing it up?

951
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: Y'all?

952
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: Don't get no more in my wisdom you have you

953
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 3: ever felt that way?

954
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: Even when like, even let's talk about Insecure, You're like,

955
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: you do know this is a character like I am

956
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: just you.

957
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: Know, I was like, what is going on?

958
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't even understand. I couldn't understand it. I could

959
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: not understand it.

960
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: That would have made me irritate it, you know what

961
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean, to the point where I'm been like, I'm

962
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: tapping off. I'm tapping off of Social. I don't you, guys,

963
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: this is I am not in AKA. This is a

964
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: character that I am playing. If you guys could give

965
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: me some grace, I have.

966
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: Felt I have felt that way, Like sometimes it just

967
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: feels like, oh, like this is just an overabundance of

968
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: ignorance that I can't take or this is an overabundance

969
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: of negativity that I can't take. I mean, I told

970
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: this story before, Like I remember when I had I

971
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: had two situations happened in twenty nineteen where like I

972
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: was just dragged baby okay dow wow through the internet and.

973
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: We can laugh at it now, you guys don't want

974
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: to through the internet like that is some real just

975
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: visualize that that is so that's how would be literally

976
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: dog walked me through the Internet.

977
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: And folks don't understand that because folks will say things

978
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: like I don't know why you care that people who

979
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: don't know you are talking about you, And it's like

980
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: that's why because they're just like you know me Like so,

981
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: but I was being dog walk through this internet and

982
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: there was it was a scenario that had happened, and

983
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: I thought like, okay, we had gotten through it, and

984
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: then it got re visited like someone just decided, like

985
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday at two o'clock, like, you know what,

986
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: let me just put this back in the atmosphere. And

987
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: I started getting the tags and getting the dms, and

988
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: I just like I remember I was about to interview

989
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: comedian Sam Jay on my podcast until she was at

990
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: the house, and I literally just like fell like I

991
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: like crumbled to my knees and was just like I'm done,

992
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm just done. Like it like actually broke me

993
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: because because the thing, because the thing that I was

994
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: being attacked for was for something that I was wholeheartedly

995
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: justified in doing and it needed to happen. And it

996
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: was like, how could I be so misunderstood in this situation?

997
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: Like like what does that like? And so what happens

998
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: is you reach the point of like if this is

999
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: how people react to me moving at my most authentic

1000
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: and genuine, then like how the fuck could I continue

1001
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: to move in this space? I have to go right

1002
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like for a lot of people, that's

1003
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: what suicide really is about. It's like if this is

1004
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be, if I continue to be me,

1005
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: then I just can't continue to be And I felt

1006
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: I felt that the four too. But but as it

1007
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: related to the business, like that was I just said,

1008
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: and Sam had to like, yeah, it was a it

1009
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: was a Terry McMillan film. Like Sam had to like

1010
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: pick me up off the ground and be like, no, sister,

1011
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: this is You've got to keep going, you know, And

1012
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my gosh. She's like, no, let

1013
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: him break you, you know. And then it's like a

1014
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry stage play. You know, you know, you're just

1015
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: like to have like but you know in the more,

1016
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: in the more, like in the more travel size because

1017
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: we're happy and Sam is strong. That's a strong girl, Sam,

1018
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: I love.

1019
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: She said, let me pick you up physically and and emotionally.

1020
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: You need these niggas. Everybody you know you need that.

1021
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: You need that. People always ask me like, oh, like,

1022
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: what's your advice is someone getting in this business? And

1023
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, make sure you have people around you who

1024
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: remind you of who you are on the days this

1025
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: business makes you forget.

1026
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: Hey man, that is a by the way, that is

1027
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: a word for your ass. And then it just rejuvenates you.

1028
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: And she gave you what you needed to keep going.

1029
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: I think, I think you're built for this. But when

1030
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: you're in the middle of being dog walk on the

1031
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: internet and.

1032
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 3: You're always like surprised, like like I know it's random,

1033
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: You're like, wait, what you know?

1034
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: And it'll keep up on you. So many times, y'all.

1035
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I will like send a tweet and then go about

1036
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: my life or liked it like something, and then just

1037
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: go about my life and then like, you know, a

1038
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: few hours later, look at my phone, like, oh, I

1039
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember. There was this white lady

1040
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: who like she like sent a tweet before she took

1041
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: off on a flight to South Africa and she said

1042
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: something like I'm going she said something like hella racist,

1043
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: and she was like an exec for some big company.

1044
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: And then she and then she turned her phone off

1045
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: and like took off on the on the plate and

1046
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: when she landed fourteen hours later, she had like lost

1047
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: her job, like she had been like everything had been

1048
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: blown up, and I'm just like damn, Like that's how

1049
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: would be sometimes, No, she said out a tweet I

1050
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: will never forget when I was sitting at a Paris

1051
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: airport and I sent out a tweet that said, if

1052
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: you have Jay's and Nike suits and you don't have

1053
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: a passport, then you're losing. And then I like put

1054
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: my phone away and went out with my life. And

1055
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: by the time I got to Wi Fi again, I

1056
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: was the hated, Like what was what.

1057
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 3: Was the outrage for the alleged outrage.

1058
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: The alleged outrage was that I was policing how black

1059
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: people spend their money. Didn't say anything about black people

1060
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: in the tweet. I was policing how black people spend

1061
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: their money. I was being elitist. I was trying to

1062
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: force people to travel who don't want to travel. I

1063
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: was talking about this on Candy Berus's podcast the other day, well,

1064
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: her show the other day, and I was like, I'll

1065
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: never forget. There was a tweet that said, Amanda Seals

1066
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: is an elitist, petty bourgeoisie who is passport shaming the

1067
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: disenfranchised black community.

1068
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Wow, I'm doing all of that. Wow, okay,

1069
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: just by a tweet, I did all that. You're and

1070
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: that's the part where you're just like, you don't even

1071
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: know me, what are you talking about?

1072
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: Oh? Someone told me the other day that by resharing

1073
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: an Al Jazeera news story about something about like a

1074
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: an noown Zera's news story about something going on in Ethiopia,

1075
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: they said that I was empowering the Ethiopia and government.

1076
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, I, ma'am, I don't have that

1077
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: kind of power.

1078
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she but yes, that's the beauty of it

1079
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: all though, That's what I'm saying. That's how people see

1080
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: you and it's interesting, and that doesn't mean change who

1081
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: you are. It means that that just comes with the

1082
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: territory of having the ear right and being a voice

1083
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: within our culture, right, but.

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Speaker 1: It does mean changing like what you decide to like

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Speaker 1: step into.

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Speaker 2: I feel yeah, yeah, it depends well because you know

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00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: Jamel and I'd be like, did youme, Like, I don't

1088
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: even feel like getting into it with these today, you

1089
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: Like Mel's mom. Damel's mom was on my flight back

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: from UH Detroit the other day. She told she was like, well,

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00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: you know my daughter is Damel Hill.

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00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: Did you tell Jamil that?

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00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Did you? I was texting her. I was like, yo, yeah,

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00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: mothers me. She was like, oh Lord told the whole

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00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: plane and she's my mother.

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Speaker 3: That is so funny.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you.

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: I don't think her.

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00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: Mom realized that I like know her know her though,

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: Like I was, she was like, oh, you know my daughter.

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00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: I was like, She's like, what's your name, Amana? She

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00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: was like, well, thank you for your support, And I

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00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: was like, you know, like I like, like I know,

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00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: I like I'm tactic her Like what that?

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00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, not not only do I support her, but that's

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00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: like my friends real like, yeah, oh you do know

1108
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: my daughter? Oh okay, no, so I do, I do know.

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: I do know if you want to feel the headache,

1110
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: cause no matter what, when you're in the middle of it,

1111
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: it still takes a lot from you and I and

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00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: I think, and I've said this before, I'm in a

1113
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: space where I like to watch people evolve and grow

1114
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: and I've seen you do that. So don't be kind

1115
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: and gentle to yourself. Don't take that for granted because

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: it's it's beautiful and it's special.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Carrie Champs.

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Speaker 3: What you about to say?

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Speaker 1: No, because people I see people all the time will

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00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: be like, there's so much like happier now you know,

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00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: you're just not as angry. It's like, damn, can I

1122
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: bitch get loved?

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and let me learn And yes, love helps,

1124
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: but you've been learning and that's and and I'm watching legislation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we're allowed to do that. We are allowed to

1126
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: do that, So don't don't for get that part of

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00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: the process.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in the whole, like oh, a lepard

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00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: doesn't change its spots, like people are who they are,

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00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: Like I've never believed that. I think that's a cop out.

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00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: And I feel like there's a lot of there's a

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00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: lot of tropes that humans like kind of just repeat

1133
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: but they don't really know the source of. So I

1134
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: started reading this book. I can't remember the name of

1135
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: it right now, but I started reading this book that

1136
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: basically seeks to reassess what is human nature. And they

1137
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: talk about how like so much of what we consider

1138
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: to be human nature, like how we say life isn't fair,

1139
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: how we say like, you know, like how we like

1140
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: people kind of say like greed is a natural human condition.

1141
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: Like they were like, you know, these are things that

1142
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: were basically like just written by white people who had

1143
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: the power to write correct in like the seventeen hundreds,

1144
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: and then it just got passed down a path down,

1145
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: a path down the path.

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00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: Down, and it's like it's not a fact. You do

1147
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: know that. Yeah, Oh wow wow wow wow wow wow

1148
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 3: wow wow.

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's that's all great. We have, you know, we

1150
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: have the power to define and redefine how we want

1151
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: to show up, and I think a lot of times

1152
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: we don't realize that. Well, particularly for women, it is

1153
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: defined like this is how you're supposed to show up,

1154
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: and then you start to realize, but I don't wanna.

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to do that. I don't want

1156
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: to show it.

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00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to show that way like I want

1158
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: to wear skirts and also give niggas a dap? Can

1159
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: I do?

1160
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: We can?

1161
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: I do? But why?

1162
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's that is the nature of

1163
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: what I would say about your talent. You do it all,

1164
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: and you do it the way you want to do it,

1165
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: and you can and you can thank you, and no

1166
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: one can take that from you. You can and you will.

1167
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: So I support you one hundred percent where can ever you? Okay?

1168
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: So on a Manda verse, will they find tour dates

1169
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: because I know you said you don't, Yeah, you.

1170
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: Can go to Amanda Sales dot com. The twenty ninth

1171
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: is October in Brooklyn. I will be in Philly doing

1172
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: stand up on November twelfth. You can catch me in

1173
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: Oakland after that, and then I'm closing out the tour

1174
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: in Chicago December second, third, and fourth. So get your

1175
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: tickets at Amanda seals dot com. And if you want

1176
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: to hear just more of my musings, you want to

1177
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: see behind the scenes footage, you want to see special

1178
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: exclusive series that I'm doing like my Docuseriies Amanda on

1179
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: the Move, or like my commentary series Rebels and Radicals.

1180
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: You can subscribe to the Amanda Verse. It's a universe

1181
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: of Amanda and I love it. You can subscribe to

1182
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: the Amanda Verse and when you get an annual membership,

1183
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: you get a shirt that says Seal Squad that we're

1184
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: part of it, designed by mow by my hand.

1185
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: I drew it myself. So I love the monetization of

1186
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 2: it all. Don't give out these musings for free. Because

1187
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: you've given out, You've given out knowledge. It should be

1188
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: paid for. It should be it should be premium, premium.

1189
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm honestly like working to be just not

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01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: working harder, but working.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, girl, joining join right, yes, podcast.

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: House, ma'am. I mean, I'm I'm hoping to announce something

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01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: really soon that I think people will really be happy

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01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: I felt like you were gonna be doing something soon,

1196
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, I wonder, will she say something now?

1197
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know anything, but I just felt like it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, it's just a matter of time. I

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Speaker 3: just you know my.

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Speaker 2: Okay, same, same, all right, So guess what, guys, we're

1201
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: both waiting on our paperwork.

1202
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: So everybody gets to show. You get to show show.

1203
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: We all got to show, smart, funny and black. I actually,

1204
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: as mentioned in the podcast, happened to do it and

1205
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: gotta be badly. I was bad on my black culture,

1206
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: my black pop culture.

1207
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: You'll forgive me.

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: Got be by Bomani Jones. Shout out to Bomani Jones.

1209
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: But she's on tour and check her out. She told

1210
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: you she was going to be in Atlanta on the fifteenth,

1211
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: although this will have already aired, but she's also in

1212
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: Brooklyn on the twenty ninth, and then she's also on

1213
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: tour she's doing. She's at a couple of comedy clubs

1214
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: in Philly, so you got to go to amanaverse dot com,

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: Amanda Seals dot com.

1216
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: Check it out.

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01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 2: Support her support looks like, I appreciate what you do

1218
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: because I know it's hard to do what you do

1219
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: and if you could do it differently, you would. And honestly,

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01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: when I meet people like that, who I know it

1221
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: is in there being to be who they are. They're

1222
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: not doing it for effect, for fame, for attention, it

1223
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: is just who they are. And then that other part

1224
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: comes right that entertainment business side of it will come,

1225
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 2: but it is who she is and I am more

1226
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: than willing to support her. I ask you guys to

1227
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: do the same. That was my helbow cracking again and

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Speaker 2: I guess I gotta get in yoga. Next week, we're

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Speaker 2: back with a new edition of Naked