1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: The Team forty seven podcast is sponsored by Good Ranchers. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Making the American Farm Strong Again. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts. Now, this 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: is one of those days where it pays off to 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: be me, where you start off your morning with a 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: nice crocket coffee, sitting down in front of the newspaper 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: selection opening it up, usually the New York Times, not 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: exactly renowned for its positive stories relating to the Republican Party. 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Can I just say, drinking Crockett Clay is like putting 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: on the leather bib before you get the X ray 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: at the dentist. Like if you're drinking Crockett, the communist 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: New York Times doesn't infiltrate you the same way, no doubt. 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, I just want I do it 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: so you don't have to. This is me taking this time. 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: It lead, not leather, sorry, leather, lead bib led bib. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking what does the leather do? But I 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 2: was the leather with the Davy Crockett connection. I thought 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: I might be missing something thing. I do it so 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: most of you do not have to. 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: But this is a headline in New York Times today, 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at what the headline is in the 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: digital right now, because sometimes it's different than the newspaper headline. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Digital not a positive headline. Democrats flashing read alert what 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: the voter registration data shows? Subheading and there's a big 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: graphical accompaniment story for this. The party is bleeding support 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: beyond the ballot box. A new analysis shows this is 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: a big article. This is the feature for the New 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: York Times. And listen to this open Buck, you don't 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: hear it opens like these. And I thought it was 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: interesting because the Sunday New York Times basically wrote an 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: entire editorial on behalf of the paper saying, Yeah, Clay 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: and Buck were basically write about everything on COVID and 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: basically write about everything on crime, and maybe we should 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: have been smarter about the way we covered it. That's 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: basically what the New York Times said in their editorial. 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Here's the open. The Democrat Party is hemorrhaging voters long 37 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: before they even go to the polls. Of the thirty 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: states that track voter registration by political party, Democrats lost 39 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: ground to Republicans in every single one between the twenty 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: twenty and twenty twenty four elections, often by a lot 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: that four year swing towards Republicans adds up to four 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: point five million voters, a deep political hole that could 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: take years for Democrats to climb out from. And then, Buck, 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: there is a graphic showing you Democrats losing ground in 45 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: all thirty states while Republicans are gaining ground. And and again, 46 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: one more paragraph here to contextualize, so you know what 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Democrats are reading this morning. The stampede away from the 48 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Democrat Party is occurring in battleground states, the bluest states 49 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: and the reddest states too, according to voter registration data 50 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: analyzed by the New York Times, and the data comes 51 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: from a non part isan data factory. So this is 52 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: interesting when you think about Buck, what is going on 53 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: in the larger country. I feel like I've seen it 54 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: for a while because the Democrat Party, it's basically an 55 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: insult to call someone a Democrat if you're a young man. 56 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: We made jokes about this when I fraternities. Instead of 57 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: making jokes about your mom with the banners outside of 58 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the house this fall, we're saying their opponents vote Democrat. 59 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: The culture has shifted in a major way. 60 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: Yes, Now, if you're at the frat house and some 61 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: guy swings and misses. You say, you swing that with 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: football bat like a Democrat. It's not good. It's not good. Yeah, 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: and this whole article to look the data in this 64 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this right now. This article is 65 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: a joy. It is a joy to read. I read 66 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: it more than once, that's how much. And this is 67 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: a New York Times, a big piece from the New 68 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: York Times. This is injected straight into my veins. Take 69 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: this data and put it right into the heart of 70 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: the American populace. This is great stuff. Some of the 71 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: things I pulled from this in the specifics, the long 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: and the short of it, as you laid out, is 73 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: party registration, which Democrats are used to having an advantage. 74 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why they didn't really detail 75 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: this in the article is Democrats have been running this 76 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: voter registration industrial complex that is a non that they 77 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: use nonprofits, so tax advantaged here. Okay, they're using nonprofits 78 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: in order to get people to sign up and vote, 79 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: but they do it in a way that they know 80 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: they're going to get more Demomocrats, right, So it's oh, 81 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: we're just to get out the vote effort, right, And 82 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: you've seen celebrities doing this in the past and stuff, 83 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: but it's always wink wink, we're going to do this 84 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: in you know, in Philadelphia, in New York, in Los Angeles, 85 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: like they're doing it in places where they figure we're 86 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: going to overwhelmingly be registering Democrats to vote. Well, the 87 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: problem is now they can't count play on just a 88 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: blanket registration effort in these areas, especially when they're going 89 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: after let's say Latino voters. They can't count on it 90 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: benefiting Democrats, so they're going to hold on a second, 91 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: our scam isn't working the way that it used to. 92 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: Miami Dade County, for example, the number of active Republican 93 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: voters zoomed past Democrats after Trump became the Republican nominee. 94 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: As recently as November twenty twenty, my home county of 95 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: Miami Dade, Clay Democrats had a two hundred thousand in 96 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: one county, two hundred thousand registered voter advantage. Yeah, there 97 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: are you know, most counties don't even have, you know, 98 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: the two hundred thousand voters. I mean, you see this 99 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: North Carolina state record show the Democrat advantage. There was 100 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: four hundred thousand in twenty twenty, it's now basically more 101 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: or less a time. Then they've got seventeen thousand voters. 102 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's like not not going to make a 103 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: huge difference. So this is five alarm fire time for 104 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: Is that the most alarms for a fire? Think it 105 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: is right, there's a four alarm fire. Five alarm fire. 106 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: We got a lot of firefighters. You guys can write 107 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: it in and tell I think it's five alarm, right, 108 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: I think it's five alarm right. I think that's a 109 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: big scary fire. Yeah, this is a big scary fire 110 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: for Democrats. For us, we are roasting marshmallows and enjoying 111 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: all of this. This is fantastic and it goes to 112 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: everything we talk about, as you said, the anti masculine, 113 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: anti white misjudging, the Latino misjudging, the young black male vote. 114 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they they are in free fall. And the 115 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: great thing is clay there's no signs of its stopping. 116 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: It just keeps getting worse, and they won't change their messaging. 117 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: They keep pushing for let's have you know two hundred 118 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: pound guys playing on the women's athletics team in high school. 119 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do think this is so By the way, 120 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: one bit of news on this thirty states, you might 121 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: be saying, okay, what happened in the other twenty states. 122 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: The other twenty states don't have party official registration. So 123 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: in my state of Tennessee, for instance, you walk in 124 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: on a primary and pick which side you want to 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: vote in, so there isn't official party registration. Some places 126 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: have registered Democrats, some places have registered Republicans. Twenty states 127 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: do not, so they only have a thirty state data set. 128 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: But this, to me, buck it corresponds with all fifty 129 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: states moved redder. If all thirty states are hemorrhaging Democrats 130 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: such that the New York Times is writing about it 131 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: and adding Republicans, it is a sign of a profound 132 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: cultural shift. And I think the numbers are actually gonna 133 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: get worse. And this is why we had this conversation. 134 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: In the wake of losing in twenty twenty four, Democrats 135 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: had a real choice. Do we look ourselves in the 136 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: mirror and say, boy, voters by and large rejected us, 137 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: or do they say this is just a sign that 138 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: our message is not getting through. Those are the only 139 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: two paths, right. The first one is hard because it 140 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: requires you to say, boy, this is on us. The 141 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: second one you put it on the voters. I think 142 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: we've gotten a result so far, six months after Trump won, 143 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Democrats have decided their message just didn't get through, and 144 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: they have, as a result, doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on crazy. 145 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: And they're saying saying, well, they're ignoring the fact that 146 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Kamala outspent Trump. They're ignoring the fact that voters, I 147 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: believe heard, listened, analyzed, and rejected the arguments being made 148 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: by the Democrat Party and overwhelmingly chose the Republican Party instead. 149 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: And here's what I think is particularly ominous, Buck, I 150 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: think there are two things that are particularly ominous about 151 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: this data. One, the two most Republican groups in the 152 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election were men under thirty and men 153 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: over sixty five. I bet that has never happened in 154 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: the history of this country. And I think a lot 155 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: of people are still not recognizing it, which means that 156 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: the data, as kids are getting younger, instead of working 157 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: in Democrat favor, is actually working against them. And I'll 158 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: come into the Travis Holts household and give you an 159 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: example on this. My fourteen year old blew my mind, 160 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: because I'm I can't that I'm going to have two 161 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: grown adult sons by the next election. He told me 162 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: right after twenty twenty four, Dad, all my friends cannot 163 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: wait to be eighteen so we can vote against Democrats 164 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight. These are fourteen year old boys 165 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: that will be eighteen. This is right now, rising ninth graders, 166 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of these kids. They are overwhelmingly 167 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: indexing Republican, just like their older brothers did, just like 168 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: is happening out there. So I think the numbers are 169 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: getting worse. That's point one for younger two. And this 170 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: is really transformative. And I know a lot of you 171 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: out there are part of this group. Asian, Hispanic and 172 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: Black voters are increasingly moving towards the Republican side because 173 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: culturally they are more male than they are Democrat and 174 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: that men are saying we're done with the craziness. So 175 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: I think both of those things are huge, not only now, 176 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,359 Speaker 1: but looking for. 177 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: And just from a pure power perspective, the general belief 178 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: is that after a presidential election, especially a tightly contested 179 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: hotly contested one, oh Republicans or rather the party in power, 180 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: Republicans in this case will get smacked down in the midterms, 181 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: and just also the overall political trend, because when you're 182 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: in power, it's easy for people to say you're not 183 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: doing a good enough job of this, and you messed 184 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: that up, and you know, to be the political complainers. 185 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: Tends to work, right that the opposition party gets to 186 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: say you're not delivering. And we've gotten used to that 187 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: as our framework for politics in this country, certainly at 188 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: the national level. Here's the and let me add that 189 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: happened in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Going into that twenty 190 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: eighteen midterms, it was Trump hasn't delivered. They hadn't built 191 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: the wall, they hadn't done this and that, and they 192 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: were able to get substantial gains in twenty eighteen in 193 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: the House, and the Democrats were really fired up. Obviously 194 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: about twenty twenty. You could tell already by that midterm 195 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: Clay that's not happening this time. And this is what 196 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: I think is so concerning to the Democrats and so 197 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: amazing for the rest of us, is that they're not 198 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: seeing the general the general prevailing trends post this election 199 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: are not okay. Democrats are going to snap back Democrats 200 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: are going to counterattack here. It's getting worse for them. Yes, 201 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: Trump's been president for seven months and things are getting 202 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: better for Trump and worse for Democrats right away. In 203 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: all the numbers and all the metrics that they can see. 204 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: I mean, here's one we didn't mention this battleground states Arizona, Nevada, 205 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: North Carolina, Pennsylvania. Democrats are losing support in all of 206 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: those states and continuing to bleed support based on voter 207 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: register member not all states have voter registration. What is it. 208 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, thirty thirty out of thirty out of fifty, 209 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: so I'm not I'm not anything my state, so. 210 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: Twenty do not thirty two Based on those thirty states, 211 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: though you can look at Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, 212 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: really important states, Democrats are still losing support when it 213 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: comes to voter registration in those places. And they're also 214 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: losing support when you look at voter switches, people that 215 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: were Democrats and come to Republican side or Republicans who 216 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: go in the other direction. More Democrats are leaving the 217 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Democrat Party. I don't know how this article could be 218 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: worse for Democrats right now quite there was not a 219 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: single silver lining anywhere anywhere, full stop. It was a 220 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: total It was a delicious nightmare for them. I loved everything. 221 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: By the way, one state that I think is not 222 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: getting enough attention that is emblematic of this, maybe more 223 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: than most Nevada. In Nevada, Democrats suffered the steepest percentage 224 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: point plunge of any state other than West Virginia. West 225 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Virginia is pretty red place. Nevada swung massively to the 226 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: Republican Party. I think there's an argument that Nevada is 227 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: really teed up to become rock ribbed red. 228 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: Well. I have a heary on West Virginia. Actually, let 229 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: me come back into that. I have a theory. I 230 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 2: think that West Virginia data is much more important even 231 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: than the article suggests. 232 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 233 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: The New York Times is saying, hey, this is this 234 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: is a mess for you guys. And one of the 235 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: I would say, big issues associated with this going forward 236 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to come back to it is Democrats are 237 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:44,359 Speaker 1: unwilling to recognize that their message was heard and basically 238 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: universally rejected by voters in all fifty states. So my 239 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: question for you, Buck is now that let me say this, 240 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that Democrats may not win in Virginia, 241 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that Democrats may not win in New Jersey. 242 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Doesn't even mean next year Democrats might not have a 243 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: chance to take back the House. Right, the trend lines 244 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: can all be moving against them, and turnout can still 245 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: be significant. But I wanted to hit this because I 246 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: think it's so important. For a long time you heard, oh, 247 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: turnout favors democrats, turnout favors Democrats. How many times have 248 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: you guys heard that the data on the twenty twenty 249 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: four election actually shows if every eligible American had voted, 250 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Trump would have won by more. Let me repeat that 251 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: because I think it has not come through Trump's margin 252 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: and the popular vote would have become more substantial if 253 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: everybody who didn't vote actually had gone out and voted well. 254 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: And the talking point about if everyone voted, Democrats would 255 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: win by more this was a little bit like their 256 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: selective love of the popular vote, particularly in the Bush 257 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: Gore contest and then Hillary Trump, which is, we know 258 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: that's not the contest you're running, so it doesn't matter, right. 259 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean, if if you're playing first one to twenty one. 260 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: You can't say, well, the ten minute quarter has ended, 261 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: so I win. Like, you've got to set the rules 262 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: and then you've got to see where things go. But 263 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: they say this, and they've been telling themselves this for 264 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: a long time, and I think because of the dominance 265 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: that they had in the broad spectrum legacy media, they 266 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: were able to convince themselves of this. And really, with COVID, 267 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: you got to see. This is why I think COVID 268 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: was such an important moment for the country. I mean, 269 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: I still think about it. I'm still angry about it, 270 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: by the way, legitimately get I get ticked off when 271 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: I think about things that happened during COVID that Democrats 272 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: did to us, and then a lot of Republicans were 273 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: too cowardly to stop. I might add, but that was 274 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party, unl unrestrained. That was what they really are, 275 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: which is, you shut up, we're gonna lie to you, 276 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna kick you off the internet. We're gonna use 277 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: government force to lock you in your homes. We're gonna 278 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: use government force to shut down your We're gonna do 279 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: all these things, and we're gonna be unrepentant about it 280 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: when it all has shown that it was wrong, unnecessary, 281 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: and just destructive. And then we're gonna keep telling you, well, 282 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: you know, you still have to say that a man 283 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: can become a woman. But then we're gonna keep telling 284 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: you still have to say that unrestricted, open borders aren't 285 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: a bad thing for the country, or for any country 286 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: for that matter. They decided that they were going to 287 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: go for it and put themselves in a position where 288 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: they could dictate what reality was, and they were wrong. 289 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: And now they're seeing the pushback, the counter attack, and 290 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: everything that needs to happen is happening. 291 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: I think two things tie in with this too. One 292 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: I think Trump has become a much more sophisticated politician. 293 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: I think that his group that surrounds him, his aids, 294 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: his cabinet, I think they are smarter. I think they 295 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: are more reflective of the country and where the country stands. 296 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: And I think Trump has taken advantage of the reflective, 297 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: reflexive anti Trump sentiment to actually just start taking positions 298 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: that are eighty or ninety percent popular. To see whether 299 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: Democrats DC crime is a good example. Men and women 300 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: in sports are actually willing to continue to argue against him, 301 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: and so far they have been. Here is the question 302 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: that I have for you, Buck, and I also have 303 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: this question for everybody writ large out there. If you 304 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: are unwilling to acknowledge that everybody's hearing your message and 305 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: rejecting it, which is what is happening so far with 306 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. Is there a truth teller on that 307 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: side of the ledger that is going to emerge to 308 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: redefec what the Democrat Party is or do they have 309 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: to lose again in order to recognize that their message 310 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: is being heard and rejected. Because I'll give you an example, Buck, 311 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: some people are going to say, we're just not being 312 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: left wing enough. That could be the lesson to some 313 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: of these people from Mom Donnie right it is, Hey, basically, 314 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: let's just become communists. That's what has to motivate the base. 315 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: The real Democrat Party has never been tried, yes, basically right? 316 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: Or or. 317 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: Is someone going to emerge who is somewhat of a 318 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: centrist now, Gavin Newsom, ah. 319 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: Look at you, look at you, this is the go ahead, 320 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 321 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has tried to flirt with centrism by saying 322 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: never the right thing, but that he hears the right argument. 323 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Remember when he was on with Sean Ryan, he said, right, 324 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: what's your voice? Did I hear you? 325 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's like I'm hearing. I'm hearing what 326 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: you're saying. I'm getting what you're putting down, and the 327 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: wind through my hair is speaking to all of us. 328 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm hearing what you're saying. Is an amazing line because 329 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: you don't actually say anything like, of course you're unless 330 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: you're unless you're deaf. Of course you hear what I say, 331 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you actually agree with it. So 332 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: that's his line. And you know who's actually making fun 333 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: now of Gavin Newsom. This is a guy who I 334 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: think has seen the tea leaves and he will blow 335 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: in whatever direction the wind is blowing. Joe Scarborough, who 336 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: just last year was telling us this was the best 337 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: version of Biden he'd ever seen, now says Gavin Newsom's 338 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: a total fake. Listen to this trying to find their 339 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: footing and. 340 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: It's it's it's quite embarrassing, actually, I mean Gavin Newsome, 341 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen what he's doing online? 342 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: And just take a deep breath. Don't try to turn 343 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: this ship one hundred and eighty degrees and one. 344 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: They don't know what to do. 345 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: I have a good idea. Instead of trying to make 346 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: school Donald Trump. 347 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: Talking to the camera about affordability, why try to drag 348 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali in the ring when you got Chuck Webner, 349 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: Sandy Wepner is a bleeder. He's a bleeder. 350 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: You want him? 351 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: So why are you going I'm long after Donald? No, 352 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: you're not. You're not running against Donald Trump. Go is 353 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: Tweedledee or tweedledum? 354 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: Who is this is a low level boxer? But what 355 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: what I think? It's a very low level boxer from like, uh, 356 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: somebody look it up. But the Muhammad Ali as Trump 357 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: is funny because suddenly Trump is a great politician and 358 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: he's a great boxer. In the analogies from He's well, 359 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: he has kicked it. He's kicked an old tactician out there. 360 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: He's kicked their asses. I mean they've had they've had 361 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: to accept Trump. Trump has kicked their asses. Trump has 362 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: completely plowed the Democrat Party Under Clay we didn't even 363 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: talk about it because of all the big news with 364 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Russia and all the things going on there. 365 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: MSNBC has had to change its name. This is real, everybody, 366 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: This is not the onion. MSNBC is now going to 367 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: be called ms now, which honestly sounds like a channel 368 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: dedicated to you know, unmarried, middle aged women who drink 369 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: a lot of wine and read those novels that are 370 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: you know, by the front register or something at the 371 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: grocery store like ms now. I mean, is this about 372 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: like women's health? Like what are we talking about? Clay. 373 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: He has destroyed CNN. He has destroyed MSNBC. The New 374 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: York Times will never gain back Nord, the Washington Post, 375 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: whatever credibility that they used to have. He has crushed 376 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: the fake media. He has burned their villages, and he 377 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: heard the lamentations of their women. So yes, they have 378 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: to accept this. But I have a wild idea for you. 379 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: I have a wild idea for you. You ready for 380 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: this one? Yeah? Oh yeah, I'm putting on I'm putting 381 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: all my Clay Travis at right now. Hey, look at me. 382 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: I love sec football and I make wild predictions that 383 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: sometimes come true. I'm putting on my Clay had Joe 384 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: Scarborough's media career is going nowhere. Joe Scarborough should run 385 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: for president as a Democrat. And I think he sees 386 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom and I think he's a little jelly and 387 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: I think he's considering it. I think he's considering it. 388 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is this is a good 389 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: I think this is a good I think this is 390 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: a good take. I actually I mean Joe Scarborough used 391 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: to be a Republican. He now is redefining himself. He 392 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: called out Democrats for being against more police in DC. 393 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 394 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: He's got the ms now the MSNBC base that likes 395 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: him right there on the most popular show other than Madow. 396 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: He's obviously in the communication business. Uh. We know that 397 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: he has no core belief but that actually might benefit him. 398 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: If all the core beliefs of the Democrat Party are wrong, 399 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: it's easier for someone with outcore beliefs to take over 400 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: the party. 401 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 2: He's perfect, actually, and this is why Joe Biden was 402 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: perfect for Democrats in twenty twenty. Because he was old, 403 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: people were scared, he didn't have to show up for anything, 404 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: and he was able to be the He was the 405 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: pretext of the old Democrat Party still exists. Now we 406 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 2: know what happened. He was a dementia puppet and you 407 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: got AOC policies with a Joe Biden facade, right, and 408 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: it was truly a facade because it was like, you know, 409 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: the marionette, like hey here I am everybody, I'm talking 410 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: And so that was what worked for them. Then what 411 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 2: would work for them now is a slick, grinning Gavin 412 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: Newsom or Joe Scarborough type, soulless but smooth individual who 413 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: can who is good on the stump, who knows how 414 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: to debate, who knows how to do the the oleaginist 415 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: thing up there word of the day. And I think 416 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: I think Scarborough and actually Gavin, I think Scarborough and 417 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: Newsom are the same creature. That's what I release. And 418 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: I think Gavin Newsom and Joe Scarborough are such egomaniacs 419 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: that they have what it takes to say absolutely anything 420 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: to win a Democrat primary. That's what I That's what 421 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: that's where I see it. And and you know, this 422 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: would be an opportunity. I'm telling you he would, it 423 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: would get he would do very well in a primary. 424 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: Remember MSNBC, there's a they have a strong minority and 425 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: a strong female black viewership for from within the you know, 426 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 2: the the news cohorts, the news industry and so they 427 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: they know him, they would like him, they would support him. 428 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I think Scarborough running is not 429 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: as as not a. People always say on the right 430 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: that Tucker is gonna run, which I don't think that's 431 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: gonna happen. I think Tucker likes what he's doing now. 432 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: But I the Scarborough thing, you don't think it's crazy 433 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: put on and you agree, Well, I've been arguing for 434 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: some time that it might take somebody out outside of 435 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party, and I think in the wake of 436 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: Trump's success there will be I think multiple non traditional 437 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: politicians who run on the Democrat need. You need star 438 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: power to win a Democrat primary. Now, it used you 439 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: can't replicate the brand creation of other Democrats that have 440 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: You know, Biden, the guy's been in politics longer than 441 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: you and I have been alive, and so that name 442 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: recognition is effectively similar to the you know, the celebrity status. Right. 443 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: You're not going to get somebody who comes up now 444 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: who doesn't have star power and wins a Democrat primary. 445 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: This is again why I think AOC is certainly a 446 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: vice president in waiting, and I think that that's where 447 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: the Democrats are heading Well. 448 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: The reason I like the Scarborough angle right the outsider, 449 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: is this is my art, this is my assertion. In 450 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: order to win, a Democrat has to put the left 451 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: wing in basically time out. They have to lecture the 452 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: left wing and say this party is not good. This 453 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: party doesn't exist just for trans people. This party doesn't 454 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: exist just for people who believe that America is fundamentally 455 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: awful and that American history is something to be ashamed of. 456 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: I think Joe Scarborough or Gavin Newsom, I mean this 457 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: is they're the same, They're the same lane for the Democrats. Right, 458 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: a guy with who's smooth on the air, he's got 459 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: good hair, and it's gonna say whatever he has to 460 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: say to make everybody play ball long enough that he 461 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: can actually get powered. And I think that the case 462 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: from the Newsom Scarborough side of things is I don't 463 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: care what you blue haired you know, communist freaks. Yes, actually, 464 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: and again we mean purple hair, not old people like 465 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: people that dye their hair. But I don't care what 466 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: you communist freaks want. If you don't let me run 467 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: this show a little bit. Trump and mag are just 468 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: going to keep stealing your lunch for the next decade. 469 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. I also think some of 470 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats are too much of cowards to try to 471 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: put what is a great phrase from Dirty Dancing, nobody 472 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: puts baby in the corner. You got to put crazy 473 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: in the corner. And you got to say, like I'm 474 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: shutting the door on you loans, you can show up 475 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: and vote whatever. You're not going to drive the party anymore. 476 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: I think a lot of professional politicians are afraid of 477 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: that because they're afraid of that party element coming back, 478 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: the progressive wing in power. Whereas Joe Scarborough, what the 479 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: heck does he care. He's got a television contract, he's 480 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: got money. I don't know that Gavin Newsom is willing 481 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: to truly burn the ships because if it doesn't work 482 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: in twenty eight, he might need those people in thirty two. 483 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: I just one last thing. I know, we got to 484 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 2: get to a break. But just Clay, you know this, 485 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: you know this beast, you know this animal very well, 486 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 2: the media personality who we've all seen this plaguing out 487 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: over decades. When you're at that stage at Scarborough's at 488 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: the guy's worth millions and millions of tens of millions 489 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: of dollars probably at this point, he's a very wealthy guy. Okay, 490 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: he's been doing TV a long time. His relevance is 491 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: dropping immensely by being at MSNBC. How do you become 492 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: relevant again? Money doesn't really matter to you at that 493 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: point very much. How do you become relevant again? You run? 494 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: And also you've been embarrassed because you were the guy 495 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: who said Biden was at his best. You need to 496 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: change the story, and you have to do something radical. 497 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes that's. 498 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: Because because all you care, it's all ego driven, and 499 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: to change the story, I mean, look at Look look 500 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: at Trump. Obama made fun of Trump at a dinner 501 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: and the world changed. 502 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Yes, So you know, I think that's right. I don't. 503 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: I think the Scarborough idea is actually a good one. 504 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: I think there will be other people, Dwayne the Rock, Johnson, 505 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban, and I'm not signing on to any of 506 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: these guys, but I think a lot of people will 507 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: believe that they can be the Democrat version of Trump.