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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Play and Buck starts right now,

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Speaker 2: and of course a lot of big news to dive

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Speaker 2: into today with all of you. We've got the New

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Speaker 2: Hampshire GOP primary which is imminence tomorrow. The votes will

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Speaker 2: be cast, the first in the nation primary, the Granite

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Speaker 2: state New Hampshire getting a whole lot of love and

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Speaker 2: attention from the rest of the country. Here we'll discuss

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Speaker 2: what's going on there, the latest polls, how it's all looking.

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Speaker 2: A big component of that story came in over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: It is that Donald Trump has called Ron De Santis

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Speaker 2: a terrific person after Rond De Santis said that he

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Speaker 2: is suspending his presidential campaign. So it is over for

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Speaker 2: DeSantis twenty twenty four. Clay and I will give you

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Speaker 2: our assessment of this one. There's some discussion as to

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Speaker 2: whether DeSantis would even be in the Trump administration. Possibly.

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Speaker 2: Nicky Haley is getting some rough stuff from Trump World

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Speaker 2: right now because she is the only contender left in

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Speaker 2: the mix. So Donald Trump had some words about Nicky

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Speaker 2: Haley over the weekend. Also spoke to whether she may

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Speaker 2: be in the Trump administration if Trump does in fact

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Speaker 2: end up winning. Some updates on the Fannie Willis case,

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Speaker 2: the situation with her paramore. Basically, the whole thing is

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Speaker 2: falling apart legally, and it looks like Trump may have

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Speaker 2: beaten one of the felony indictments against him without ever

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Speaker 2: having to set foot in a courtroom. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's the last time that's going to happen. And then

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Speaker 2: something coming out of New York and the how many

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Speaker 2: stops act the New York City Council. It's as though

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Speaker 2: they want more crime in and YC Democrats are like,

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Speaker 2: how could we make more crime if we have time.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that one later off, But Clay a

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Speaker 2: lot in the world of politics, kind of start with

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Speaker 2: with two things for you. Right, let let's get into

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Speaker 2: the latest polling that I see here is oh well,

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Speaker 2: actually this still one still has DeSantis technically in the mix.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's been a poll yet

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Speaker 2: was at fifty percent, Haley was at thirty four, DeSantis

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Speaker 2: eleven over the weekend, So Trump way out ahead. What

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Speaker 2: do you think as we're going into New Hampshire tomorrow

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Speaker 2: and also of Ron de Santis stepping down, I think.

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Speaker 3: Let's start reverse there. And and by the way, I'd

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Speaker 3: love to hear from our audience. We only have one guest,

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Speaker 3: next hour. But I'd love to hear from DeSantis supporters.

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Speaker 3: Now that Ron DeSantis has dropped out and endorsed Donald

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Speaker 3: and Buck, this is what you and I said had

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Speaker 3: to happen. After DeSantis lost by thirty, it was over

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Speaker 3: and it didn't make any sense. Once he decided, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to compete in New Hampshire, and he said,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna lose in New Hampshire and post a single

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Speaker 3: beat Nicky Hayley in a month and come in second

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Speaker 3: And I give credit to DeSantis and his team. They

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Speaker 3: be given the amount of money spent and given the

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Speaker 3: be a lot written about it. I think the biggest

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Speaker 3: takeaway is once Trump was charged in March and all

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Speaker 3: of those additional charges came, I don't think anybody could

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Speaker 3: that that is the Democrat plan, that they want to

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Speaker 2: That is what they want.

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Speaker 3: Even if you are a died in the wool Trump

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Speaker 3: of the other side. Now they can be wrong and

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Speaker 3: we'll figure that out over the next ten months. Whether

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Speaker 3: they were or were not wrong in wanting Trump they

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Speaker 3: think DeSantis made the only decision that was the right one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be hurt in twenty

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Speaker 3: than anybody. I think DeSantis was right on COVID. We

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Speaker 2: If he wants to run again in twenty eight, look,

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Speaker 2: I think that he will put himself fully behind the

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Speaker 2: We're not getting ahead of things. I think he's going

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Speaker 2: to take the Ted Cruz path, if you will. Of

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Speaker 2: we fought hard in the primary, but now we are

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Speaker 2: going to be allies because that's what's best for the

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Speaker 2: of this, you know, instead of saying I think Trump

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Speaker 2: the right who always took the tact of or took

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Speaker 2: the attack of Ronda Santis wasn't good on COVID or

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Speaker 2: Ronda Santis isn't a good governor or rondiss None of

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Speaker 2: that was true. I mean, the GOP has chosen chosen Trump,

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Speaker 2: so he is the choice of the Republican part. There's

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Speaker 2: no question about that. But you don't have to you know, silver,

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Speaker 2: the silver medallist in the Olympics, isn't a loser? You know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to think ron De Santis is a

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Speaker 4: He just said, will I be using the name ron

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Speaker 2: I said, if that name is officially retired. And I

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Speaker 2: think that also goes to people who are I'm just

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Speaker 2: gonna say, people who are running around online, whether they're

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Speaker 2: influencers or just other folks saying there's no room on

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Speaker 2: the Trump train for anyone who wasn't. That's just not true.

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Speaker 2: Trump is Trump is the conductor, and he is saying,

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Speaker 2: who's saying Trump doesn't want them, that's not true. Also,

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Speaker 2: you can't win without more people on the train.

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Speaker 3: So the stupidity of Look, I think Ronda Santis, if

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Speaker 2: I think he would have been beat Nicky Haley.

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Speaker 3: I think most people who are voting for Trump in Iowa,

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Speaker 3: That's why it's powerful. Emotion drives much of the tweets

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Speaker 3: I think this Antis should be We'll see who Trump

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Speaker 3: picks his vice president. To your point, we had that

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Speaker 3: But I think there's gonna be twenty or twenty five

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Speaker 3: A lot of people have set it out, you know,

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Speaker 3: not running in twenty eight. We could run through Tim

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Speaker 2: So there was also I mentioned Trump Trump retiring the

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Speaker 2: was irrespective of anyone's feelings on Rohn de Santis Trump,

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Speaker 2: You know, there have been some times where he recrooked

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Speaker 2: Trump congratulating Ron DeSantis for drop you know, for making

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Speaker 2: Let's hear what Trump had to say before we begin.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to take time to congratulate Ron De Santis

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Speaker 2: He did.

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Speaker 4: He ran a really good campaign.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you it's not easy.

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Speaker 4: They think it's easy doing this stuff, right, It's not easy.

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Speaker 4: But as you know, he left the campaign trail today

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that, and I also look forward to working

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Speaker 2: You know, Clay magnanimous Trump. That's the way that that's

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Speaker 2: I think it's worth noting that he really he'd made

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Speaker 2: is the Marines? It said that there's no better friend,

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Speaker 2: no worse enemy, right, Isn't that one of the I

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Speaker 2: think it's a god. If it's the army, I apologize.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the Marines that should be Trump's political vibe.

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Speaker 2: No better friend, no worse enemy? Right? I mean all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you asked also about Nicki Haley

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Speaker 3: New Hampshire. Everybody should go vote. I'm going to keep

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Speaker 3: saying everybody should go vote for the next ten months.

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Speaker 3: So when I give you an opinion, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: if you hear this opinion and you agree with it, well,

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Speaker 3: then oh I don't need to go vote.

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Speaker 2: Voice it.

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Speaker 3: Like the same thing I said for Iowa in the

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Speaker 3: same way that first people in Iowa got to have

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Speaker 3: Trump to such an extent that Ron DeSantis and vivek

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Speaker 3: that happens, Nicki Haley is going to lose, probably by

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Speaker 2: And this thing you and I would have said if

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Speaker 3: Time last year in twenty twenty three, Hey, what do

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Speaker 2: I think both of us would have.

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Speaker 6: She is not presidential timber. Now, when I say that,

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Speaker 7: Jim, you know you can go now, you can go,

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley probably not going to be prompt vice president.

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Speaker 3: girl going to school in California. So Joe Biden was

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Speaker 3: willing and able to overlook that, which is nastier I

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Speaker 3: think than anything that's been said about Trump by anybody

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Speaker 3: that ran against him in twenty four so far. And

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Speaker 3: Trump said all sorts of awful things, particularly about Ted

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Speaker 3: Cruz and Ted Cruz's family and Ted Cruz's wife.

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Speaker 2: And look, I.

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Speaker 3: Just think that all is where all is fair in

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Speaker 3: love war politics. And I tend to think that as

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Speaker 3: soon as you get on the Trump train, as we've

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Speaker 3: already seen with Ron DeSantis, that Nikki Haley would be

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Speaker 3: rehabilitated in some way and maybe she ends up second

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Speaker 3: Arry of State, right, which is still you know, in

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Speaker 3: the Trump campaign, it's not VP, but it's it's not

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Speaker 3: a insubstantial job.

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Speaker 2: I think Rick Grinnell would have something to say about that.

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Speaker 2: But tell me this, is it one hundred percent in

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Speaker 2: your mind that she will not be the VP? One

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Speaker 2: hundred percent?

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Speaker 3: No, No, because Trump. Look, I think that's interesting for you. Two,

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Speaker 3: what's the timeframe of Trump announcing a VP? He's a showman.

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Speaker 3: I would suggest that once you lock up the Republican nomination,

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Speaker 3: I would say, what do you think, hold it till

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Speaker 3: April or may like tease it out basically have almost

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Speaker 3: an Apprentice style sweepstakes from people competing for it. I

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Speaker 3: also think, I mean, I believe our friend Glenn Beck

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Speaker 3: just said recently that he thinks it should be VI vague,

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Speaker 3: which is interesting because go back what seven or eight months,

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Speaker 3: I was like, Viveke is running to be Trump's VP

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Speaker 3: at the beginning of his campaign. That's what I was saying,

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Speaker 3: and so it wouldn't be a surprise at all.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that there's a strong case. I

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Speaker 2: don't it's whether Trump wins or not is going to

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Speaker 2: be based on Trump right. He's not gonna make some

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Speaker 2: very tactical, granular decision. We've talked about this. He's not

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Speaker 2: gonna have camp in Georgia or or you know, some

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Speaker 2: figure in Nevada or Arizona that he's gonna make his VP.

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Speaker 2: It might have been carry Lake, but she's running for Senate,

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Speaker 2: so that's not gonna fly. He's gonna pick I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's gonna pick somebody one that he just likes because

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Speaker 2: he's Trump and that's what he does. But two, I

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Speaker 2: do think there's a strong case for bringing up the

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Speaker 2: next generation of conservative political leadership, whether that's we have JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance on the next hour, for example, Jade Vance Center

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Speaker 2: from Ohio of Vivak. There are a number of people

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Speaker 2: who would be We've talked about Tucker and I've heard

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Speaker 2: again from people and from Tucker that you know, he

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Speaker 2: likes doing what he's doing and he's not gonna be VP,

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Speaker 2: which is exactly what Tucker would say if he was

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Speaker 2: gonna be the We'll.

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Speaker 3: Just say I think there is a desperate craving out

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Speaker 3: there in America right now for people who aren't politicians

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Speaker 3: to be politicians, because I just I mean, whether you're

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Speaker 3: a Democrat, Republican, or an independent. You know, you see

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Speaker 3: some of this math now block forty percent of people

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Speaker 3: say they're independence in some of the polling that's being done,

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Speaker 3: you know, twenty seven percent Republican, twenty seven percent affiliated

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Speaker 3: with the Democrat Party, and then there's just I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people who are just very frustrated in general,

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Speaker 3: which I think speaks to the rise of third parties,

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Speaker 3: where it would not shock me if fifteen or twenty

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Speaker 3: percent of the electorate ends up voting for a third party,

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Speaker 3: whether it's RFK, Junior Libertarian, Green Party, I think we're

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Speaker 3: going to see a nineteen ninety two style vote turnout

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Speaker 2: Here's a question for you that we haven't gotten into before.

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Speaker 2: We both agree, and I think everyone in the audience

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Speaker 2: already knows and agrees Nikki Haley is not going to

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Speaker 2: be president. However, people have also been talking about People

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Speaker 2: are saying they've been talking about how the vague ran

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Speaker 2: this upstart campaign and show. So he should be judged

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Speaker 2: based on how well he did relative to his political

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Speaker 2: name recognition all the rest of it. Now, I know

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Speaker 2: Nicki Haley has pretty high name recognition, but did she,

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Speaker 2: for where she is, run an exceptionally strong campaign? Would

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Speaker 2: you have to say that, like we weren't. I don't

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Speaker 2: think anybody assumed Nicki Haley was going to be the

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Speaker 2: last person standing other than Trump in this whole thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so how do you assess her? There's so much post

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Speaker 2: mortem of the DeSantis campaign. I'm just wondering, what do

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Speaker 2: you think about the Haley campaign. It's still going, but

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Speaker 2: it's on life support.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I would say that all three of

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Speaker 3: the final three candidates, Viveke, if you had said buckwin,

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Speaker 3: Viveke announced nobody as a percentage of this audience that

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Speaker 3: knew him well very tiny, right, name recognition was very low.

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Speaker 3: If you had said he was going to finish up

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Speaker 3: fourth overall, I think that would have been a big

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Speaker 3: success for him. If you had said that Nicki Haley

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Speaker 3: was going to finish second overall, I think her team

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Speaker 3: would have been like, that's gonna be a hell of

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Speaker 3: a campaign. I think the DeSantis team saying you finished third,

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Speaker 3: I think relative to expectations, they would have said, that's

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Speaker 3: a failed campaign.

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Speaker 2: But I think it also speaks to the expectations because.

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Speaker 3: I really think DeSantis was the only non Trump candidate

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Speaker 3: who entered the race believing it's.

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Speaker 2: He could actually when we failed, Yeah, I think Nikki Haley,

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Speaker 2: if we're just being objective political analysts here, I think

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Speaker 2: she outperformed expectations with her campaign. She's about to get

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Speaker 2: absolutely crushed, and the campaign is only gonna last for

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Speaker 2: a few more days, maybe a few more weeks. But

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Speaker 2: I think, to be fair, Ron ended up having what

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Speaker 2: was do you remember what was the number in Iowa?

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember. Twenty one percent? I think twenty

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Speaker 2: one Yeah, I think Ron DeSantis is twenty percent was

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Speaker 2: you know, almost entirely a function of people who appreciated

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Speaker 2: and respected and wanted more of what he put on

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Speaker 2: the scoreboard in the state of Florida I now live.

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Speaker 2: Almost none of it was his campaign, Like, I think

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Speaker 2: he bought that twenty percent, so to speak with the

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Speaker 2: winds in Florida. And that's why I never got beyond that,

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Speaker 2: because it didn't grow to something bigger than look at

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Speaker 2: what he's a kick ass governor. He just is and

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Speaker 2: if you're a conservative, you got to love him as

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Speaker 2: a governor. But it didn't expand beyond that.

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Speaker 3: I think we should talk about this in the second hour,

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Speaker 3: maybe a little bit too. I think what that reflects

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Speaker 3: is there's about twenty five percent of the American public

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Speaker 3: that they want that they are believe there should be

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Speaker 3: major consequences for COVID failures. You and I are in

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Speaker 3: that camp. A lot of you out there listening to

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Speaker 3: us are in that camp. Some of you found us

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Speaker 3: because of the way that we responded to COVID. I

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Speaker 3: think fifty percent of Americans are embarrassed by how they

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Speaker 3: went along with COVID and now recognize that we got

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Speaker 3: it all wrong, but they don't want to stare themselves

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Speaker 3: in the mirror and actually have to acknowledge it. And

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Speaker 3: then I think there's twenty five percent of leftists that

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Speaker 3: are still out there deciding that they are going to

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Speaker 3: advocate as if they were right on COVID. All along,

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Speaker 3: even though they got everything wrong. And I think what

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Speaker 3: you're recognizing is nobody's going to have any consequences. And

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Speaker 3: that's frustrating to me. It's frustrating to you, and I

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Speaker 3: know it's frustrating to a lot of you out there.

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Speaker 3: But if you want to win in twenty four, what

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Speaker 3: happened with COVID is not going to be a way

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Speaker 3: that leads you to victory. And I think that's one

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Speaker 3: thing that the Desants team found out. He got everything

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Speaker 3: right on COVID, and when it came to running for

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Speaker 3: national election, the Republican primary electorate was saying, we don't

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Speaker 3: really care. And I think that's unfortunate, but that's where we.

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Speaker 2: Are because I think that COVID was the ultimate stress

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Speaker 2: test of any politician. I think that you really see,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was the it was the you know,

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Speaker 2: invasion by foreign forces, four am phone call, what do

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Speaker 2: you do? I mean, it was where leadership was truly

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Speaker 2: was annoyed by this. People would say, oh, Ron shut

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Speaker 2: down the beaches too, where Ron did this or that?

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Speaker 2: And I would say, we all understand right that it

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Speaker 2: has to be graded on a scale of well, what

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Speaker 2: were you doing in May of twenty twenty, yes, and

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Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty and July of twenty twenty. You know,

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Speaker 2: pointing to one month out of a three year arc

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Speaker 2: the country on COVID by far, and people. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to have that discussion if folks want to.

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Speaker 2: But I'm with you, Clay, and so far as I

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Speaker 2: don't think people care, they don't, I care a lot. Still,

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Speaker 2: I'm still I'm openly hostile toward mask mandates and people saying,

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Speaker 2: maybe just wear the mask when you're in the hospital. No, no,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk border things that people do care a whole

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis bock Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. We asked former DeSantis supporters.

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Speaker 3: You can still be a DeSantis supporter, but now that

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Speaker 3: DeSantis has decided that he is not going to be

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Speaker 3: continuing in the primary, what is your reaction? How would

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Speaker 3: you potentially vote going forward. Susan will start with you, Lakewood, California.

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Speaker 2: What you got for.

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Speaker 8: Hi. I was a dissentis supporter before he even declared

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Speaker 8: that he was running, and I especially like that he

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Speaker 8: doesn't go around insulting people. But I felt like the

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Speaker 8: conservative media pushed Trump so much nobody had a chance

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Speaker 8: and then declaring that the election's over after Iowa just

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Speaker 8: takes our vote away.

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Speaker 3: But you still have the right to vote for whoever

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Speaker 3: you want. I mean DeSantis has dropped out. You think

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Speaker 3: on this show that we push we pushed Trump too hard?

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Speaker 8: Uh? You a little bit, not so much, but until

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Speaker 8: the polls started really showing him as winning. But there's

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Speaker 8: some outlets that have been full blast. I can't even

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Speaker 8: listen to them anymore because they're so Trump Trump, Trump Trump.

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Speaker 2: Look, we tried to do. Thank you for the call, Susan.

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Speaker 2: We try to reflect reality the greatest degree possible. We're

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Speaker 2: just trying to tell people what we see as true.

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Speaker 2: And I can tell you that we were inundated for

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Speaker 2: the last I don't know, nine months or so or

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Speaker 2: something like that. I'm trying to think of what the

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Speaker 2: math would be on it with people who are either

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Speaker 2: upset us for being too pro DeSantis or upsetted us

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Speaker 2: for being too pro Trump. So you know, depending on

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Speaker 2: the day, it was one or the other. And you know,

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Speaker 2: we uh abided by the rush rule. We didn't endorse anybody.

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Speaker 2: I think we try to play it as straight as

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Speaker 2: we can. I mean, Clay said, just to be clear

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Speaker 2: in July, He's like, look, I see where the trend

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Speaker 2: is going. And I said, okay, well hold on, maybe

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Speaker 2: there's a chance there's a possibility. Well well, Clay said,

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Speaker 2: was right, and there wasn't really a chance for possibility.

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Speaker 2: And that's been clear really for at least three or

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Speaker 2: four months now, I mean maybe longer.

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Speaker 3: Look, when DeSantis announced in May, he had to That's

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Speaker 3: why I said, by I think it was July seventeen.

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Speaker 2: He had to surge. It had to be going in

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Speaker 2: the right to get happen. It was always going in

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Speaker 2: the wrong direction. Look, I remember when I said I

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Speaker 2: didn't know this. This got me a lot of heat.

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Speaker 2: I said, I don't know anyone personally who was a

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Speaker 2: Trump supporter before the DeSantis camp in the primary, in

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Speaker 2: the primary, before the DeSantis campaign announced, who said, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm not voting for Trump in this primary anymore,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to vote for DeSantis in this primary. Meaning

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Speaker 2: there was a switch after the Dasantis announcement. Rage from

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Speaker 2: all the Dysantis people online about this and said, that's

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Speaker 2: what the polling shows us. Beyond any doubt. There was

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Speaker 2: no movement. In fact, the only movement was toward Trump.

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Speaker 2: DeSantis's numbers did nothing but go down from the announcement date.

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Speaker 2: So the numbers will basically let you know that it

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Speaker 2: was baked and over because I think DeSantis, somebody can

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Speaker 2: go back and look at the real Clear Politics polling average,

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Speaker 2: but I think the this was down twenty when he

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Speaker 2: announced in May, like Trump had opened up a pretty

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Speaker 2: big lead. And you know, I think the Sands is great.

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Speaker 2: I moved to Florida in no small park because of

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Speaker 2: the amazing policies that he was instituting here and because

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Speaker 2: of what he did during COVID. But the reality is

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Speaker 2: the reality. The facts are facts, the data is the data.

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Speaker 2: And you know, now it's Trump versus Haley. That's it, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing else to say about it. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's over to Mark in Kentucky. What you

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Speaker 2: got for us? Mark, previous Florida resident, native Florida. So anyways,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, all my friends as well as myself,

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Speaker 2: we're so glad bout out. Yeah, he's just gonna hurt himself.

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Speaker 2: Don't fight this battle, just come back to it in

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Speaker 2: four more years. You've run a great day, rack.

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Speaker 1: Up more victories in the state of Florida.

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Speaker 2: No, look, I appreciate the call. I think that's like

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Speaker 2: what we're gonna see.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody's gonna throw their hat in in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty seven, regardless of what happens in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four election, and that campaign season is gonna start in

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Speaker 3: earnest as soon as the midterms in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: are complete, because there's gonna be no incumbent.

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Speaker 2: Look, if Frum wins election, which will feel like a

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Speaker 2: reelection win for a lot of people, if you were

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Speaker 2: to win in twenty twenty four, then clearly the GOP

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Speaker 2: made the right choice in this cycle, and maybe Ron

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Speaker 2: decides to get in the future. If from losers to Biden,

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Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of people who say, well, we

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Speaker 2: just made the wrong choice this year. Maybe we should

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Speaker 2: look at that. The Santas guy again so we'll see