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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. I wear many hats. Some days I'll say

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Speaker 1: I watched basketball yesterday. I'm so excited to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I have a three point line now. The game's changed

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Speaker 1: I think the Celtics are gonna be I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: started out pretty well. Till Duran becomes Durant, They're not

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Speaker 1: Continuing with Nate's email, because so far it's so good.

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Speaker 1: Eric likes to fashion himself as an expert in a

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Speaker 1: lot of areas it's not. And then I challenge him

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Speaker 1: much of everything. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday, but

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Speaker 1: more importantly, it is draft week. We are in the

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Speaker 1: thick of it, right, Mike, right tomorrow, Paul Eric soon

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Speaker 1: to be here, Matt in the booth. We are getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the draft. I can't wait. And we're back

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Speaker 1: in person Thursday night Draft party here riche Lett's Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfilked will be live starting at seven thirty for that,

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Speaker 1: so I can't wait. Cast A thousands, cast A thousands

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Speaker 1: will have live interviews from the stage with Patriots luminaries.

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Speaker 1: We'll go right into the draft at eight o'clock when

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Speaker 1: that starts. So I'm excited. And plus the food, food,

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Speaker 1: then we can jump in and really start to break

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Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, I agree with everything you just said.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, you got the stamp of approval. As always,

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Speaker 1: I tend to get let Mike push me out. The

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Speaker 1: Paul Peroo stamp of approval. You know it, Freddie. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a long few months, and I

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Speaker 1: I think over you know, when you're blogging, it's like, man,

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Speaker 1: these guys. But um, but it's fun. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of bloggers out there, writers that you know, do study

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Speaker 1: all these stuff, and I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: But speaking of the seventh round, the earth stopped spinning

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Speaker 1: Get one. Yeah, I'll give you. Another guy that Mike

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Speaker 1: and I both talked about on our podcast is one

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Speaker 1: Dale Robinson from Kentucky who was a guy who was

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Speaker 1: a running back. He's tiny, He's like five eight. He's

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Speaker 1: a small guy, five eight one seventy five tops. He flies.

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Speaker 1: He reminds me of Debo with the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 1: and he was a running back. They give them, they

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Speaker 1: give him the ball on jet sweeps and they find

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Speaker 1: ways to get the ball in his hands as a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver the last couple he's been very productive for KENTI.

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Speaker 1: I think he started his career at Nebraska, he said,

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Speaker 1: with a question mark. But he's a guy with some versatility.

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Speaker 1: I could see him carving out. He's not ever gonna

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Speaker 1: be the main cog in and off. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be Debo, he's too small for that. But I could

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Speaker 1: see him being like a James White, you know, niche

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Speaker 1: kind of player who could have a really successful career

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Speaker 1: and again maybe a late Day two, early day three pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, you're better at the project projections. Ever

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Speaker 1: since NFL trass scout went away, I don't know, my

442
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Speaker 1: min't know who's coming or going. I don't know way

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Speaker 1: these guys are getting taken. I think though. One of

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Speaker 1: my just my my biggest concerns I think though is

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Speaker 1: is the edge. And I just I don't think that

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Speaker 1: that there's been enough talked about that everyone. You know,

447
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Speaker 1: the holes at guard and cornerback are are obvious. Um,

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Speaker 1: the long term need at tackle and wide receiver certainly there,

449
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Speaker 1: certainly there. But I just I just don't know who's

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Speaker 1: across from Jude on, who's who's playing. These could be

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Speaker 1: a good year for that too. There's there's a handful

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Speaker 1: that are gonna go. You know, Jaine Johnson's of those

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Speaker 1: guys that could be in that twenty one area, yep.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's and I don't but I don't really

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Speaker 1: love any of them. I'd love if if Jermaine Johnson

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Speaker 1: felt I thought that, I mean, he'd be outstanding. I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, seeing things now, he might go in like three. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I just every time you do a mock draft

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Speaker 1: around twenty one you get there, there's no real like

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Speaker 1: good at Like, there's not a Chandler Jones type player there. Really,

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Speaker 1: I know, to two out of three day not too bad. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just what direction do they go? Are

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Speaker 1: they really looking for a stand up guy? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know Nakobe Deane and Devin Lloyd, but they have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys in the middle. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to tell you that any like Nakobe Deane and Devin

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Speaker 1: Lloyd might be better than all these guys that they

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Speaker 1: have outside of maybe Jawan Bentley. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: they have there. But when you look on the edge,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, who who you know? First down? Who's out

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Speaker 1: there across from Jude on setting the atocha Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know, I really don't know. Right now.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a spot where you know, what we

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Speaker 1: saw out of the defense towards the end of last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know it wasn't great with van Noy

476
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Speaker 1: high tower callings. Those guys are all gone. Even Winive

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Speaker 1: It's not that he was an edge player, but he's

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Speaker 1: gone too. So I just think edge, how do they

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Speaker 1: approach that? What do they come out of this weekend?

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Speaker 1: You know, does is Oucha gonna get a chance to

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Speaker 1: really start? And even if he does, don't you want

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Speaker 1: another guy who's big and tough and can at least

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Speaker 1: go early downs, maybe stop the run a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to approach it. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think there's enough being said about the edge,

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Speaker 1: the need. The front of the defense feels like it's

487
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Speaker 1: in serious need of talent. I just I look at

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Speaker 1: the defense. It's not very good right now. There's not

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Speaker 1: a lot that you can hang your hat on. You

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Speaker 1: can tell me the Barmore's good. I like Adrian Phillips.

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Speaker 1: I think Dugger's got some promise. But outside of that

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Speaker 1: little trio of guys like I don't really feel great

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Speaker 1: out a whole lot on the entirety of the defense.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I go back to Paul, all right,

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Speaker 1: excuse me again. I go back to twenty twelve where

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Speaker 1: you got you went, You're aggressive. You got two guys

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Speaker 1: who immediately stepped in kind of changed the whole dynamic

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Speaker 1: and really set the stage for you know, championships a

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Speaker 1: couple of years time for them. Yeah, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were aggressive. You have something to say tomorrow. You

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Speaker 1: were kind of you forgot. Yeah, that happens. Tends to like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the filibusters. Let me say one more so.

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Speaker 1: When Paul mentioned deebo Um, I thought about the press

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Speaker 1: conference from yesterday about how they're not going to trade him, right,

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Speaker 1: But now I'm like, what if, you know, Friday morning

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Speaker 1: rolls around and they do trade him. And also they're

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Speaker 1: still Baker Mayfield out there that could come in as

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Speaker 1: a trade too, And so I'm like, oh, yeah, busy week,

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Speaker 1: get ready. I feel like there are going to be

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Speaker 1: some picks that shake that are really shake things up,

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Speaker 1: trades that could shake things up that like that would

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Speaker 1: be a monumental trade. I could see Debo getting traded.

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Speaker 1: You could even though they just said yesterday they're not. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I see as Jimmy Brant likes to say, translation is

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Speaker 1: make me your best. I'm not giving them away. It's

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Speaker 1: not to me. It's not about the forty nine is

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Speaker 1: refusing to trade. It's about another team willing to give

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Speaker 1: them what they're they want. Um, is there a team

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Speaker 1: out there that will do that? Maybe? But would you

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Speaker 1: give them a first round pick? Absolutely? I mean I

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Speaker 1: think if you're San Francisco you have to think long

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Speaker 1: and hard about that. Yeah. I would give them a

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Speaker 1: first round pick for Deebo Samuel. And then of course

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Speaker 1: you have to pay them, and you'd have to sign

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Speaker 1: them right away because you don't want to for just

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Speaker 1: one more year. You want to do that long term deal.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you you wrapped them up, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be huge, huge money, huge money. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: that that this is derivative? I guess in a way

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Speaker 1: of Brady kind of Brady starting this, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of guys picking their teams and you know, and now

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Speaker 1: it just feels like a J. Brown debo. You're getting

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Speaker 1: guys that put up a couple good seasons and then

534
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Speaker 1: they're like, pay me right now? Is this going to change?

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Speaker 1: Think that's a question. Great pursue, especially with the important

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we've always had guys hold out for

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Speaker 1: for contracts and all that stuff, but I think now

538
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Speaker 1: with social media, you know, they have a voice, they

539
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Speaker 1: have a forum to just say this stuff and and

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Speaker 1: get it out there. And you know, you've, like you

541
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Speaker 1: we've always had it, but now I think, you know,

542
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Speaker 1: you just they have more power now. I think they do.

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Speaker 1: And I do think the social media is probably part

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Speaker 1: of it, because what does a guy do when he's

545
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Speaker 1: start following everybody changing? Yeah? Right right? Which sub team

546
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Speaker 1: for sale? You scrub your team off of all of

547
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Speaker 1: your social media accounts. That's that's that's hold out one

548
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Speaker 1: on one. Yeah, you know, I no longer have the

549
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Speaker 1: Cardinals and my Kyler Murray. I'm no longer having the

550
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Speaker 1: Cardinals on my social media counts. So they do have

551
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Speaker 1: some power I think in that regard. But I really

552
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Speaker 1: am interested in if Mike is onto something with is

553
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Speaker 1: this a trend because I know, like everybody's well nowadays,

554
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Speaker 1: you know what happened when Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill

555
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Speaker 1: and Stefan Digg signed these big contracts. What was the

556
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Speaker 1: response by the you know, the NFL national guys, Well

557
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Speaker 1: you gotta if you want to find these receivers, you

558
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Speaker 1: better draft them. You need to have cheap receivers. Look

559
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Speaker 1: the look where the salaries are going. Right, You draft

560
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Speaker 1: a guy, you got them for four or five years,

561
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Speaker 1: Well not anymore, you don't. You go to get them

562
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Speaker 1: for two years. Once the receiver realizes, okay, I can

563
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Speaker 1: do that. Once I get in year three, I'm gonna,

564
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Speaker 1: you know, step my feet and look to get out

565
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Speaker 1: of here. And you can't play. I'm out, and and

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Speaker 1: and you know, when you talk about power, it kind

567
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Speaker 1: of reminds me of a tweet that Florio had a

568
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: couple days ago um where he says that, in his opinion,

569
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Speaker 1: the draft is un American, you know, because it's it

570
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: actually limits guys to what they can do and takes

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Speaker 1: the power away from these players, you know. And there's

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Speaker 1: something to that. You know. I've always thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I had, I don't like the whole the worst,

574
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Speaker 1: the first drafting. I think the draft should be a

575
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Speaker 1: lottery every year, you know, and regardless of where you

576
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Speaker 1: finished last year, you could have the number one pick.

577
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: It's a pure lottery every year. But you know, that's

578
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Speaker 1: that's another discussion. But his his thing is why should

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Speaker 1: someone going into the workforce not have a choice of

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Speaker 1: where they want to work? Oh yeah, that's that's fair,

581
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Speaker 1: especially because I mean, look at Trevor Lawrence, like coming

582
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Speaker 1: out barely loses a college game in his career, and

583
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: then now he lost almost every single game, right, So

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think every

585
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Speaker 1: team in the league should have a chance to get players.

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Speaker 1: But they would, No, they wouldn't. Why not if you

587
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Speaker 1: if you didn't have a draft and you just signed

588
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Speaker 1: the team you want to sign for who's signing with Jacksonville?

589
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: What if you harden the cap a little bit? So

590
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Speaker 1: like Jerry Jones, can't just take the pick of the

591
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Speaker 1: litter every year, you know what I mean? You could

592
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Speaker 1: play a way to do that. No, but I'm serious,

593
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Speaker 1: But guys don't want to play if you've given it

594
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Speaker 1: all to the player, the players have all the power. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not signing with those teams. I don't know. Maybe

596
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Speaker 1: they you know, if the team makes the offer good enough,

597
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Speaker 1: I think it would force the teams to become more competitive,

598
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: higher better coaches. You know, I don't know, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean We're all supposed to be about competition, right,

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Speaker 1: So doesn't that create more competition? No, it eliminates it.

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. On You're you're saying it

602
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Speaker 1: eliminates it because it keeps the bad teams bad. Right, No,

603
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: well it could, but the reverse thing is it could

604
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Speaker 1: force the bad teams to get their blank together? Does

605
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Speaker 1: is that? Baseball's kind of I mean with the luxury

606
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Speaker 1: attacks in Jacksonville. Jacksonville isn't bad because it's in Jacksonville.

607
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Speaker 1: It's bad because it has bad leadership. Yeah, but how

608
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Speaker 1: does that change get better leadership? What do you think

609
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Speaker 1: they're not trying to do that? Now? It's not major

610
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Speaker 1: League Baseball where half the teams are spending like a

611
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Speaker 1: tenth of what the other teams have been. They're all

612
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Speaker 1: spending roughly the same amount of money. Well they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not. They're not poorly led on purpose. Well I know,

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Speaker 1: but then the fans can like the Kansas City Royals

615
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Speaker 1: are poor, the Oakland As are poor because that's what

616
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Speaker 1: they want. It's by design, I know. So if you

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Speaker 1: could change the rules in Major League Baseball, that would

618
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Speaker 1: make sense. In football, the Jacksonville Jaguars don't have poor

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Speaker 1: leadership because they don't want a good leader. They thought

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Speaker 1: they had a good leader in Urban Meyer. If they

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Speaker 1: were wrong. Right now they think they have another good leader.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if they're right or not. Okay, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe the next time maybe, you know, if they're right,

624
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Speaker 1: then they'll be a more attractive place for a player

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Speaker 1: to go to. You know. But there will always be

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Speaker 1: teams that aren't attractive to go to and they won't

627
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Speaker 1: get players. But why are they not attractive because they lose?

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Speaker 1: I know, but see it's like the chicken and the

629
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Speaker 1: egg type of thing. You know, they're small market teams.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't just think about her from an individual player point

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Speaker 1: of view. If you were coming out of college and

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm a pro football player, I

633
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Speaker 1: probably have five years, why would you ever choose to

634
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: go to a team that sucks well because there's an

635
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: open job. I can't go to the best teams because

636
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: they already have Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers or Tom

637
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: there's no job there. But there's enough teams that don't

638
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: have Aaron Rodgers that you can go to that don't suck. Right,

639
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: But eventually you know, eventually we'll get the twenty seventh

640
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: best player, and hopefully he'll end up being better than

641
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: half of the guys that we thought were better than that.

642
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm not throwing that's the only way that to get better.

643
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm not throwing the concept out. I think it's stupid out,

644
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, but it's florio So what do you expect? No,

645
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it is stupid. I don't really

646
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's stupid. You know, I listen. I don't

647
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: think it's flawless, but I think there is something to

648
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: say about a player having be able to control his

649
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: own fate, his own destiny. I don't agree. Okay, all right,

650
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: you know what you make that sacrifice with a multimillion

651
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: dollar contract that you sign, that's part of the sacrifices

652
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: you make most you know, Tom Dick and Harry coming

653
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: out of college. Yeah, I can pick anywhere I want

654
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: to work, but I ain't making that kind of money. Yea,

655
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: on my first contract, my first job. Yeah. I like

656
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: the draft. I like the draft. I mean, I think

657
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: the draft is as American as it gets. I think

658
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: the draft is equal for all the teams to have

659
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: a chance to improve in all sports. It's different. Sports

660
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: are different. I hate when people compare sports to real life.

661
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not the same. No, it's true. Yeah, Eric

662
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: walked in at a great time. Yeah, it's always always.

663
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't dismay it. Should have their

664
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: ability to go to any team they want. They shouldn't

665
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: be drafted. I don't. I don't dismiss the I don't

666
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: dismiss I know, I free for all. Like well, he

667
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: just saying that, you know, there's very few other places

668
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: in America where you're forced to go, you know, upon

669
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: graduation or whatever to a certain place. You know. Yeah,

670
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: but I mean to I just heard Paul's the end

671
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: of what he was saying there. But like it, sports

672
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: is different. It is different than the real world in

673
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: many ways. I mean, they're you know, they have a

674
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: lot of exemptions when it comes to monopolies and all

675
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, so they can operate a different way.

676
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: But I don't dismiss it the notion that, you know,

677
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: maybe another way. I'm just trying to play this out

678
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: in my head here. So upon graduation, you've got what

679
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: three four hundred prospects who are legitimate NFL candidates, right yeah,

680
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: and you know of them want to go to the

681
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: most recent Super Bowl champions teams, right, yeah, So what

682
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: happens to the what happens to the They have to

683
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: get better? Well, the teams that are allussed, right, they

684
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: have to be you'd have to changels. You know, you

685
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't have the ninety man roster. You'd have to have,

686
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, a cap on roster. So if you are,

687
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: if you're no, but if you're if you're the Kansas

688
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, right yeah, if you take on a player, right,

689
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: you just can't take on unlimited players. You have to

690
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: get rid of a player. That's what if you have

691
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: if you have Kelly see right, yeah, you can. You

692
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: can bring on as many tight ends as you want.

693
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: But if I'm a tight end, am I gonna beat

694
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: out Kelsey? I want to go someplace where I'm gonna play, right,

695
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: So maybe you go to the Bills instead. Okay, but

696
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: eventually the Bills are good, you know, eventually, this is

697
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: my point, you go to another good team, but you

698
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Mike pick in Jackson film. My point is there is

699
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: enough good players to go around. You know. That's funny.

700
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like I mean, there's some teams that

701
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: are really bad. People say that, well, first round picks

702
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: in this draft. I don't know if there's enough good

703
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: players to go around. Well, it sounds like college. I mean,

704
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're gonna sign your letter of intent

705
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: to play for the Bengals and you know, I'm gonna decommit. Actually,

706
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: because they're gonna sign this guy, I'm gonna go. Yeah,

707
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: because that's that's Seges. Now, it's a great comp Now

708
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: they have some transfer portal. Yeah. So, so do you

709
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: think guys go to like Coastal Carolina and UT San

710
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: Antonio by choice or that Ohio State in Alabama weren't interested. Yeah,

711
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: more likely that's the case. Right, Well, then, no, that's true.

712
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: It's absolutely not to say that guys from Coastal Carolina

713
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: or but that's it's a smaller I mentioned those two

714
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: schools specifically for a reason. One Fred brought up a

715
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: guy from UT San Antonio earlier, a cornerback who is

716
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: probably a Day two pick, and another guy another EVERYT

717
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: High school products EVERYT High is having a good year

718
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: in the draft this year, Isaiah likely from Coast I

719
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: kind of even confirm what time I may Or may

720
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: not have played with him, but he's he's a tight

721
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: end out of Coastal Carolina. Isaiah likely who's another you

722
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: know quality. They're good players at all these different schools

723
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville just like now, they have good players. They

724
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: just haven't been able to find a way to win.

725
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: They don't have enough good players. And that's certainly not

726
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: going to be a solution to get more good players there.

727
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard to do that. Every

728
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: team's gonna have a guy who comes out of nowhere

729
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: and emerges. But I don't think you can make a

730
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: team out of guys that you're hoping they consistent, not

731
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: consistently anyway. So I have a speaking of things that

732
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the NFL may or may not do in the future,

733
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: changes they may make. I was reading in Peter King's

734
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: It's tolum yesterday. Um, the NFL is going to do.

735
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: It's whether or not it's this year or next year.

736
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: It's going to happen games on Black Friday. You have

737
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: you read this. Not only that, but um, now they're

738
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: going to have games on Christmas. Yea, the triple header

739
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: on Christmas. Please don't be us. Yeah, there's there was

740
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: going to be a triple header on Christmas. But they

741
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: they've thought about the idea of a Friday game and

742
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: it would be probably like a four thirty game. That's

743
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: interesting because college happening Friday. That's why it would have

744
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: to be in a particular win Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

745
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: I think when you said Black Friday, in my mind,

746
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: I was thinking Good Friday, Like, why would they target

747
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: good Friday games? Yeah? I don't. I would not like that.

748
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: I would not like that personally because that like Black Friday,

749
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: and like Thanksgiving, that's like college football rivalry games. So

750
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: everyone's watching, like Auburn, like, everyone's watching those games. That's

751
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: the tradition and that's what I grew up. Right, Thanksgiving

752
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: Day is your NFL day. Yeah, you've got And they

753
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: added the triple header for Thanksgiving, so you've got your

754
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: full feast pardon the pun on Thanksgiving of NFL. Leave

755
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: Friday for the college game. Yeah, that's what the college

756
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: game is about. And Saturday too. You got package can

757
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: we put together to make? I would that in hand

758
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: as money? Come on? Yeah? But yeah, I think the

759
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: Christmas thing was only because it falls on the Sunday

760
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be

761
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: a yearly. That's not how I understood. I don't think.

762
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there was just because it happened to

763
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: fall on a Sunday that not you know, like Christmas

764
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: is the new Thanksgiving for football six, with all due

765
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: respect to Christmas. I was thinking of that when I

766
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: saw that yesterday. So this is actually my birthday, so

767
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: I would Christmas that sticks yet, Yeah, It's it's interesting.

768
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: I always get people look at my ID, they're like, wow,

769
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: so did you get double presents or did you get

770
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: you know, right, just a short end of the stick.

771
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, when I was growing up, my silone

772
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: didn't understand why I got more gifts. So then they

773
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: started to separate my gifts my Birthday and Christmas gifts.

774
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: So in the morning I would open just Christmas gifts

775
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: with my siblings, and then at night, when there was

776
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: Birthday cake, that's when I would get my birthday gifts.

777
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: So they started to understand the separate. Okay, so you

778
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: did get more gifts, yes, yeah, okay, all right, more

779
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: in that like not like they'd get birthday everyday, but

780
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: just on that day you get more. Yes, yes, So

781
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots get a game on Christmas this year, no

782
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: one's gonna be more mad than you, because you're gonna

783
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: be like, it's my birthday, Christmas and I'm here, right, Yeah,

784
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: respect to Christmas. Yeah, thanks, thanks Joe. Yeah, and he's

785
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: here now. I have no problem with it at whatsoever.

786
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: No disrespected. Tomorrow, I'll play it all right. Five five

787
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: pass five hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio

788
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: at patriot dot com is the email address. We got

789
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: people emailing, we got them calling in, so uh, let's

790
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: not let them wait anymore. We'll start with Richard and Charlotte.

791
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: What's up Richard? Good for him? Hey, guys, how we

792
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: doing good? What? This phone call is a long time coming.

793
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: I've been listening to you for twenty one years. Yeah,

794
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: I'd emailed a couple of times because part apparently didn't

795
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: like those. It's not a matter of like or not like.

796
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: There's just so many maybe in ability to read it

797
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: just didn't stand out, but you know, keep trying. Yeah. So, uh,

798
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: general thought about this week and then the topic for conversation.

799
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Generally speaking, this week follows the same track pattern for

800
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: me every time. I'm total excitement, enthusiasm, like a kid

801
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: waiting for Christmas. Then the pick or trait comes and

802
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: I go full Eric. I'm li of it, and then

803
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: I go full Fred and start talking myself into it.

804
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: Last year was the one outlier on that. Yeah, but

805
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: you know we've got we have so many needs this

806
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: year at almost every position, and I'm really thinking we

807
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: need to go corner on that first pick. But generally

808
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing, and I'm no draft expert, and generally

809
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: what i'm seeing there's there's no real quality outside coverage guys,

810
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: and I do not want another slot guy. I know

811
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones is probably not long on the patch, but um,

812
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: just wanted to get your thoughts on coverage guys. Yeah,

813
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: we're not going straight out of no. I mean the

814
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: closest guy and he's probably not going to be available,

815
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: thanks Richard. Um. He's probably definitely not gonna be avail

816
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: at twenty one. But the closest guy that I've read

817
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: who can just mirror a guy as Stingley. Yeah, you

818
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: know he's true, Yeah, very good, like he I would

819
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: take him, yeah, heartbeat like he's He's one of the

820
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: guys that they say just step for step. He can

821
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: he can be in a guy's pocket. That's rare. That's

822
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: rare to find guys that can really do that. You know, Yeah, no,

823
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: it's uh, that's fair. I mean, you know, I think

824
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: Sauce is up there too. I mean, these Sauces is

825
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: really good. He's really good. But I mean after those

826
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: couple of guys, you have gardener questions off. You know,

827
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: are these you know, into the Patriots even still want

828
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: long outside matchup corners? Is that what they're is that

829
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: where they're going or not? Is um? But I think

830
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, between Booth and McDuffie that you know, there's

831
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: some options in that little range that that could fit.

832
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: But I just I don't think that they're gonna They're

833
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: not Reevs, They're not Gilmore, it's not one of those guys.

834
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: They're they're very good football players. They're smart, um, they're

835
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: all tough and tackle well. But you know, I don't

836
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: know if any of them are ever going to be

837
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: shut down number one corners. And so I get it.

838
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: That's why when you get to twenty one, you're like, yeah,

839
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: that guy's pretty good. That guy's pretty good. There's nobody like, yeah,

840
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: that's what they need. This guy's consistently there. He fits

841
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: really well, he's a slam dunk. It's it's all over

842
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: the place right now. Yeah, I do like Booth, but

843
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I also am not a huge and it's gonna be

844
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: like I'm picking on Mike, but this is something that's

845
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: really gotten a lot of steam over the last half

846
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: of the year. When the Patriots started playing zone last year. Yeah,

847
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: so now we don't need you know, they don't need

848
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: any cornerbacks that can play man right, because you know

849
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: you're never gonna play Man again, right, Like I just

850
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: think if you find guys that have the physicality can

851
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: play Man, you play man right, and then you adapt

852
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: to zone right, you know. And I know that Gilmore

853
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: struggle doing that. Gilmore is a press man covered guy,

854
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: and the first year here, the first half of the year,

855
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: he had some problems in zones. But I think that

856
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: would have worked itself out. Yeah, I think he was

857
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: too good of a player to struggle the way he did.

858
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: I think that was a lot of factors. Zone was

859
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: one of them, but I think there were a lot

860
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: of factors involved in that. And I agree with Mike.

861
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a guy that I that I

862
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: identify at twenty one and saying this guy's going to

863
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: be special. That's why they're available at twenty one, right,

864
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, like I think Derek Stingley can be special,

865
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think he'll be available. No, But I

866
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: mean I understand the idea behind a corner, and I

867
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: think that that what he said was was right. They

868
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: they that that's a high priority position. Yeah, I just

869
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: think I like going defense. I just think you're gonna

870
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: have more quality picks at linebacker at twenty one, and

871
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I think that's where they'll go, like like the inside

872
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: guys like Dean and Yeah and Lloyd. Yeah. I mean

873
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you know Paul laid out. I

874
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: just I think in the past they are so aggressive

875
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: about getting those kind of corners. It just seemed like

876
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: such a priority for them to make sure that the

877
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: cupboards were stocked with those guys. And I mean I

878
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: think even show you know, Joan Williams was you know, like,

879
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it hasn't worked out, but I think he's

880
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: that kind of guy like maybe Elam from Florida of

881
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: al right, a guy with some size, some length, who

882
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: can you know, line up. But I just the game

883
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: is changing and I think that's the biggest thing for me,

884
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: is that you really had no answers the last month

885
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: of the season defensively, So how much are you going

886
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: to change? What are you going to change? And I

887
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: think with how they haven't really touched the defensive front

888
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: much at all here in free agency, I think that

889
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: the changes will be signaled by who they draft and

890
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: and I just there's not a lot of options in

891
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: terms of the cornerbacks to continue to fill that mold.

892
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that signifies the biggest changes,

893
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, if they get a defensive

894
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: end an edge guy, that that could maybe tell you

895
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's go to Melvin and tennessee what's

896
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: up Melvin. Hey, Hey, I got a simple question. Um

897
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: so I really want so for Fred Fred you said

898
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: several times and maybe Lawya malloy when he was talking

899
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: about Bill a long time ago, saying how simplistic he

900
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: makes things, I know exactly what I'm doing, et cetera,

901
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: et cetera. Do you have any more like recent examples

902
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: of a player that says that you know things here

903
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: are a little bit simplistic. Because I've always wondered you

904
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: are to go back to that. Well, well, I'm gonna

905
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: correct he didn't. Lawyer Milloy didn't say it was simplistic.

906
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: He said he made it simple to understand. So Bill

907
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: takes complex things and makes it easy to understand for

908
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: each player to understand what their job is within that system.

909
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's the genius of Bill. Belichick is

910
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: a teacher. He's able to teach this stuff so these

911
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: guys can understand it. That was Malloy's point. See, I

912
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: would argue a little against that in that I think

913
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: Lawyer Milloy was widely regarded as one of the smartest

914
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: football players that Bill ever had, no doubt. Bill used

915
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: to say it all the time. I think you'd find

916
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: similar things where he says about Randy Moss one of

917
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: the smartest football, got football smart players they've ever had.

918
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: So it's no surprise that these are guys that found

919
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: the message that Bill was giving simple. Yeah, but it's

920
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: because I think they were at an intellectual level football wise,

921
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: that was a lot higher than But but he he

922
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: sees what Bill is saying to everybody else too, and

923
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: he's been with other coaches. He sees the difference. He

924
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: can see the difference don't know, I'm saying they're wrong.

925
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 1: Bill is Bill is able to break it down into

926
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: the lowest common denominators and you know them. It's yeah,

927
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: it was very easily digestible to Lawyer Mill. Yeah. And

928
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: it's not just Lawyer. I've heard recent guys say the

929
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: same thing where I heard a lot of confusion last

930
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: year and the difference. You know, you know what you're

931
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: supposed to do, and if you do it more often

932
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: than not, we're successful. You know. Yeah, Well, I mean

933
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: I think the example is too is it's it's it's

934
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: what the team needs to do to win the game.

935
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: And that's and these that's been arguable, you know, And

936
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: that's and I think the good example was, you know,

937
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: done in the two thousand and nine Coaching Life against

938
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: the Jets where you know they edited it and and

939
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: Noel Paul Loosis when who works out exactly like but

940
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: he's saying, these are the three things that we have

941
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: to do. So I mean that's really where I go.

942
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: It's not so much schematically what but it's it's but

943
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: it's what the team needs to do. But then what

944
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: you need to do within that how to get the

945
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: team to do Everybody has a job to do within

946
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: that overall game plan of that week, you know. And

947
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: I've heard players say, you know that's been on the teams.

948
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: Wednesday is an exciting day here because you get the

949
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: game plan for the opponent and it's you know, invariably

950
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: it's different from week to week. Oh, they're definitely a

951
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: game plan team. I don't think there's anybody that would

952
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: argue that. Yeah, yeah, it's different for me because I see,

953
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: like you know, at the end of the day, has

954
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: a lot of new coaches. You got a lot of

955
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: new changes going around last year, and I've seen people,

956
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, before the snap pointing looking around whether it's

957
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: just like me is the same or where you just is.

958
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: It is a small amount of people that understand things

959
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: and the grandest scheme of people more confused, especially nowadays.

960
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, yeah, and I think I

961
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: think it's mostly defense offense. I'm not sure if Bill's

962
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: the same type of teacher on offense that he has

963
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: on defense. I don't know that. And you gotta have

964
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: guys who can execute, guys who can do it, you know.

965
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the point I'm trying because Bill

966
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: always told us how Y molloy was at an intellectual

967
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: level far above most. Yeah, no disrespect to the defensive players,

968
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: but tackling and running is a little different than catching

969
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: the ball and throwing the ball. It's a different you know.

970
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, go to the Buffalo game. It's

971
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: like it didn't matter what they were doing. They couldn't

972
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: win the little things. They couldn't win the line of scrimmage.

973
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: They were getting pushed around like that. Those things, It's

974
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: just that doesn't even matter if you have all right, well,

975
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: we can't let the tight end score touch you know,

976
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: those kind of specific things that he kind of drills

977
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: down on. I always thought were tackling. It was that official.

978
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: There was no file on the play. The player defender

979
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: was simply over. Marx and Bolton. What's up? Mark Um?

980
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: Hi guys Um recovering from abdominal surgery here in my hospital,

981
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: said but oh wow, it's good. Yeah, all good? Okay,

982
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: and we were the first call. You're good. Everything's good.

983
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully the time passed for time? Will you be available

984
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: for training care? I will be available for training care. Okay, good, okay,

985
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: So that does not affect my seven round mock good, No,

986
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm good, excellent for usual, I'm gonna go something a

987
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: little bit contrarian here. What the heck? Um mac role

988
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: recently said, if you want an impact receiver, you're gonna

989
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: have to go up and get them. So, you know,

990
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: as recently as a few days ago, Jamison Williams was

991
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: looking to still be available at eleven or twelve. I

992
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: just saw today we're Atlanta my one at eight, so

993
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: that would kill this whole thing. But anyway, at eleven

994
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: or twelve, would we trade number twenty one, number fifty

995
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: four and number one eighty one for the player? And

996
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: I say yes, because let's find our cornerback guard, edge

997
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: insidelnebacker in rounds three, four, five, sixty seven and we

998
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: finally have a vertical offense by November two. Given up

999
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: a lot of assets for a guy who probably won't

1000
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: play until October. November at the earliest didn't seem like

1001
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: we're giving up fifty fourth So we give up a

1002
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: second round pick yeast and then like a fourth rounder

1003
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: to move up ten spots. That doesn't seem like call

1004
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: that much. Yeah, no, it's not actually a fourth rounder.

1005
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: It's you're right, it's our first first round or second rounder,

1006
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: a sixth rounder to get the first round. When you're

1007
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: switching spots in the first round, you're giving up a

1008
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: second in a sixth to move up ten spots. Didn't

1009
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: it cost like last year? Didn't it cost like next

1010
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: year's first Yeah? Yeah, like I don't think. I don't

1011
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: have Again, I'm not a draft, but that don't have

1012
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: the chart in front of me. Would that change it

1013
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: for you, the Mark? If you had to dip into

1014
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: next year's first round pick, Well, that's not that. The

1015
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: hialth chart tells me twenty one fifty one where I

1016
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: get you, that gets you, that gets you up ten spots. Well,

1017
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: if that's what, If that's what it equates, then that's

1018
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. It seems like to me. Yeah, just

1019
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 1: just thinking about it. But I don't have these value

1020
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: charts in front of me, and I trust them. I

1021
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: trust Mark. Yeah, I's done some research. I do like

1022
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: the idea of moving up because I touched on it

1023
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: early in the show. I think there's some value to that.

1024
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: If everybody's looking to move down, Yeah, and people will say,

1025
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, this guy's a sure thing if the ACL

1026
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: is right, Yeah, but would you move up for him?

1027
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: Or would you move up to get sauce or right, Yeah,

1028
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: if you if you're looking to move up that high.

1029
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: There's other guys too that can play right away. Yeah,

1030
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: because I think it'd be hard to find your starting

1031
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: pass rusher, your starting corner. You know, the other guys

1032
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned yea in those later rounds, I mean a

1033
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: lot and um, you know most likely Stain you're not

1034
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: there at twelve and oh yeah, I don't think. I mean,

1035
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: with the amount of money the Patriots are reportedly going

1036
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: to have next year in cap I would more be

1037
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: willing to give away draft assets this next year to

1038
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: have more picks this year in the first three rounds

1039
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: so I can get the linebacker, the cornerback, the edge guy,

1040
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: the wide receiver out next year. Yeah, and then next

1041
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: year I'm the opposite. I think this draft kind of stinks. Yeah,

1042
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: thanks Mark, I think I would go if I was

1043
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: going to go up, I would go up and get

1044
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: someone on defense. Yeah. Maybe you can find a hidden

1045
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: gem like a Remander Stevenson and wide receiver later on. Yeah,

1046
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: I think the likelihood of that is much greater than

1047
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: finding a hidden gem on defense later on. I don't

1048
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: know if you covered this while I was absent earlier.

1049
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,799
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Speaker 1: there and he's like, what do you say? Chandler Jones.

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01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: Everybody's like and loving HBO's half hour Comedy Hour, Like

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01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: I just loved. One of my favorite parts of my

1259
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: old job was just going you had to go to

1260
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: comedy shows and so you know, you just go to

1261
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: the improv or a laugh aactory or you know whatever,

1262
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: and and you know what, I just I've always do

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01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: what to search for? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's got to

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01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: be good though. Yeah, somebody who's got like I mean

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01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of comedians that just gets their

1266
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: own show based on kind of their act. I mean,

1267
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: Jerry obviously missed one, but plenty of schlubby dads, well

1268
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: most of them start that. Yeah, a lot of the Yeah,

1269
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: I mean back in the ninth right, that was like

1270
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: the Roman, that was the formula back then. Like you

1271
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: find the comedian, you give him the saving Kevin James

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01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: and King Queen Paul Reiser. You know, Uh, it's funny

1273
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: though because Gary Shandling. Yeah, it's hard to find Tim

1274
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: Allen twenty somethings like that could do that, you know,

1275
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: like whenever we do a show, so you think, like

1276
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: everybody goes out there to be an actor in their twenties,

1277
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: and oh man, there's just you know, pick every waiter,

1278
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: everybody's an actor. But you know, finding those like young

1279
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: That's why I like the guy from How I Met

1280
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: Your Mother, Josh Radner, I think is his name? Like,

1281
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: like that kind of guy really hard to find, like

1282
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: a funny twenty something who can carry a show. You

1283
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: don't know offense. I just saw um. I was saw

1284
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: promos this weekend for um. There's a show for some

1285
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 1: comedian named Nicky Nicky Glasser. She's got a show coming

1286
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: out called, um, Welcome Home Nicky Glazier or something like

1287
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: that where she's she goes back to her hometown. And

1288
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's like it's filmed

1289
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: like from the from the trailer on it, it's filmed

1290
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: like a reality show, but I don't know if it's

1291
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: a reality show, if it's actually like a scripted show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1292
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: she's funny. And speaking of her, I mean, I she

1293
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: had one where I think they were like at a

1294
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: party or something, or it might even have been like

1295
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: a show where there was no it wasn't starting, and

1296
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: so she just got up and started making jokes and

1297
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: that was kind of like the start of that's how

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: she got started her career. Random like that. But now

1299
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, just to have polished material, to work

1300
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: on it, to know what it is and be like

1301
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm about to talk for it. It really is a craft.

1302
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: You just can't go up there and wing it, you know, um,

1303
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: unless you're well established and well you know, you might

1304
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: get lucky one night. But these guys work at it,

1305
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, and when they work at it, and just

1306
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: the like the you know, sometimes the little follow up

1307
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: throwaway line that's like it seems like they just threw

1308
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: it in there, but that's been refined. They listened back

1309
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: to the to the act and how big of a

1310
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: laugh did it get? I can do better. Sidefo has

1311
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: a book out. It came out maybe a couple of

1312
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: years ago. Um, is this funny? Yeah? And I've been

1313
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: reading it, and you know he would probably be No,

1314
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't see not to stand up? Really? Oh god,

1315
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: I loved his stand. Love the show too. Loved his

1316
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: stand The one thing that I was kind of slow

1317
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: to warm up to the show because remember an individual

1318
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: at the end, there was always his clips of his

1319
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: of his act, and I did not find him all

1320
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: that funny. Oh I saw him at the Paradise before

1321
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: he was anybody right on commat might be did that

1322
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: make him funny? Because I laughed? I laughed like I was.

1323
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: I was laughing at Deuce because you probably never even

1324
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: heard of How I Met Your Mother? Right, Oh, I've

1325
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: heard the show. Okay. I loved that show. It was

1326
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of my nonsensical sitcoms, it was

1327
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: high on my list. I liked it. The only character

1328
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: on the show I didn't like is the guy that

1329
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: saying how hard it is to all and that the

1330
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: same probably need to keep that great point. He's great point.

1331
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean like then you look at Jason Siegel obviously,

1332
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: who went on to be a huge start and and

1333
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean I think you're right. I mean I think

1334
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 1: he was like Seinfeld was where Seinfeld was kind of

1335
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: the weak length of oh acting. He definitely was the

1336
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: way you had that center guy. He's kind of a

1337
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: straight man sometimes and it's just I always found George

1338
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: and Elaine the show like Kramer was too over the

1339
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: top but so funny. He had some of the has

1340
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: some funny things, but I didn't like to me, he

1341
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: was so ridiculous that I love it when he when

1342
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: he would go into his delusions. Like the MERV. Griffin show,

1343
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's I mean, you can't get better than that,

1344
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: But you can't get George and Elane the engine of

1345
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, George's erosis and with him everything consistent humor.

1346
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: Those two drove everything to me. Yeah, But like the MERV.

1347
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: Griffin the Coffee table Book about coffee, you can't get

1348
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 1: better than that. The J. Peterman tour, Yes, the bus bus,

1349
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: the bus. He kept making the stops, they kept bringing

1350
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: the right Anyway, we digress the movie phone moment. It

1351
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: showed me the me the movie. You want to watch

1352
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: five five Pats five hundred eight. Hey hold please? So

1353
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching on the simulcast here over our shoulder, and

1354
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston has Zoe and Badelon. Yeah, and who

1355
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 1: is the caller right now? I don't know? Mark and Bolton.

1356
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: He just called us your kid cheating on us. Mark,

1357
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: my talk about Jamison Williams said Jamison. Way, at least

1358
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: he called us first. These guys call him bite on

1359
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 1: my trade idea. Maybe hez wow. I mean he doesn't

1360
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: have much else to do, right, he's in recovery. Yeah,

1361
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: oh that's right. He was the one. He's the one

1362
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: abdominal surch right, So I know I feel bad. We

1363
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: should have been like this great trade, amos. Let's do

1364
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: it right now, Mark and Famous, Mark and Bolton. I

1365
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: don't have the stomach for it anyway, But all right,

1366
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 1: eight five five Patch is the a stick and this

1367
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: is what and this is what we're going to have

1368
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: the whole draft. After pun, after pun, let's go to

1369
01:10:54,280 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: Patty and Agawam. What's up, Patty. Gentlemen, Hey, Patty, So

1370
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm with I know she she left him, but I'm

1371
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: with if. If i'm trading up, I'm trade enough for

1372
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: one of three guys, and they're all on defense. Uh.

1373
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: I love Darrell or Derek Stingley Junior or Derek Stingley. Sorry,

1374
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 1: he's a study. He's he's Drell Reeves, he's defan Gilmore

1375
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: where he's in that class if he's healthy and he's

1376
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: motivated to play. I also I love Trent McDuffie. I

1377
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: think he's a gamer. I think he decided as you can,

1378
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, talk about positionless defense. I think they can

1379
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: line him up anywhere. And the other guys, Jordan Davis

1380
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: and I want to get through guy's opinion on probably

1381
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: like a late day two, early day three cornerback to

1382
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: Marie matthis out of it and that's all I got.

1383
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: He got me on that, Okay, I don't know. I

1384
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: already gave you mine wool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a

1385
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: good one six four guy out of San Antonio, Texas adjacent.

1386
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the pit guy he just talked about.

1387
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember him, Dad, I don't remember him either. Um,

1388
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: but I like, I mean, I like the guys he

1389
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: brought up. I think Jordan Davis is an interesting one. Um,

1390
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: we mocked him to the Ravens. I feel like he's

1391
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: a raven guy. Yeah, No, I I I feel like

1392
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: the Ravens always take the guys I love the most.

1393
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: So that's that's why it's a cornerback. I really like

1394
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis though, and I mean all the talk about

1395
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: up front needing guys. I mean, he'd go great next

1396
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: to Barmore. I just think on the edges is where

1397
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: you needed a little damar mathis would you write what

1398
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: about I didn't get that fire in my notes. I

1399
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: didn't watch him. Now he was listed originally at five

1400
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: eleven one ninety five and possibility of being a safety

1401
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: um just um, so I don't know. At the bottom

1402
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: line is I don't know anything about the player. I

1403
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: didn't watch him. Um, but could you regurgitate what you

1404
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: read about him? No? I could. Yeah. I mean this

1405
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: is the part where I would just say, you know,

1406
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: he is very speed. But the whole like, there's a

1407
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: lot of buzzwords that are starting to get under my skin.

1408
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked, we talked about UM one

1409
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: of them earlier when we were talking about the zone

1410
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: and the man, and you know, like the corners positionless defense.

1411
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: Now is another one, like why are we looking at

1412
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,919
Speaker 1: guys that Why? Why can't we just have a cornerback

1413
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: that covers the guy that's across the room. Why do

1414
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: we have to chess checkers Paul Chess? What about the

1415
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: U mask guy Bryce Watts? Anybody here of him? I

1416
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: do not know much about him? Nothing. And then there's

1417
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: another guy out of this school. I've never heard of

1418
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: it before. Out cheat a Baptist, Gregory Junior. No, stay

1419
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: out Cheetah Baptists. Never never heard, never heard in school.

1420
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: And that's weird. Never heard of Lenora Ryan for me?

1421
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 1: The guy cutting down trees over here that you printed

1422
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: all of harom A two hundred pages? What printer did

1423
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: you use too? He got the color copier mail cup too, Wow,

1424
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: wasting ink as well. We name our printers here and

1425
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: uh we mail cop one and mail cup too. But

1426
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: don't know why that's call that. But oh, mail room

1427
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: copier do you think, Yeah, that's what it's called. No,

1428
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: it's like a Chippindale strip show mail cop You even

1429
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: have Morrel making fun of you. He's rubbing his head.

1430
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: He's he's dabbing his male mail room copy the village

1431
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: people he he workshopped at him all on his own.

1432
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: Get a permit to print that, sir. I'm step up

1433
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: against the wall please, Right you guys, I don't know

1434
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: you're you're probably old enough to remember. And Eric, but

1435
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: remember when we were on the other side of the

1436
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: building and next to my office was that big printer. Yes,

1437
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: back in the day was when you had a big job,

1438
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: you had to have shell mus come in and punching

1439
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: a code. Right. Yeah, so she was the man. She

1440
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: was a female could only print out on the I

1441
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: think it was the Fiery pro No, something like that. Yeah,

1442
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: they don't care about all of the stuff that we

1443
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: talked about. They really don't care about copy or talking

1444
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: shots in Baltimore. Heyra shot what they call it? Hey? Hey? First, first,

1445
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, um, I saw you. I saw

1446
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: in my draft. You guys did. Yeah, it's cool. I

1447
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,480
Speaker 1: like Nicobe Dane. I like Nicobe Dane to the Patriots,

1448
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: but I didn't like Yeah, I don't. I don't think.

1449
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: I don't think billboard doors because it's it's too good

1450
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: of a pick from the door. Oh I took a

1451
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: turn right though, uh, right before my question. Also, I

1452
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: think Duce retweeted it was the um Drew Blesoe trade. Yeah,

1453
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: but I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know that you

1454
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: wrote the art. That was kind of crazy. I wrote

1455
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: the article. Oh yeah, the one only. Yeah, Fred, we

1456
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: broke that one. Yeah, that was um the last story week.

1457
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: I think somebody had sent an email and I, you know,

1458
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna read it, but we might as well

1459
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: get to it now. Thanks for the call for shot.

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: What was your favorite draft memory? You know, working here?

1461
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: And that was it because it happened on draft day, right, yeah,

1462
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: and that was we were allowed to break the Drew

1463
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: Bledsoe trade with Buffalo. You know, websites were kind of

1464
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: new and so um, you know that was that was huge.

1465
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Patriots dot com was went viral, you know

1466
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: on that day because we were the ones that had

1467
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: that news. What were the analytics like at that point?

1468
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: Were you just tracking traffic? I mean, was it like

1469
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: the full kitten caboodle of of what analytics is now

1470
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: for website traffic? I imagine it's just visits and yeah,

1471
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: it was just like visits and clicks and yeah, yeah,

1472
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, hard to monetize probably at that point that like, yeah,

1473
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: but you know you want it. It was just about

1474
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: awareness at that point, you know. But that put patriots

1475
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: dot com on the map, you know, video embedded and

1476
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: everything on it. It's and I think so I wrote

1477
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: the article Patriots cyber sideline at that time. Did you

1478
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: say I think I wrote the article on that? Yeah?

1479
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: What do you think? Rashad was just saying? I know,

1480
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: I just I completely forgot when hosts don't listen, I

1481
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: forgot that I wrote the article. Yes, because Brian and

1482
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get in drugs. Very right. Are

1483
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 1: you sure about this? You go, you put your name

1484
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: on it. By the way, Brian and god Born one

1485
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: head coach of Sandwich Baseball. Good for Brian. Yeah, they're

1486
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: doing well. Oh man manager starting a program over there. Yeah,

1487
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: Sean's in Vancouver. What's up, Sean pay? I got a

1488
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: few things. So Paula and two thousand in the fifth round,

1489
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 1: Dave Chelski was taken by the Patriot, Okay, And I

1490
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: also like Kalole Shakira. I I'm just swondering, like he's

1491
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: projected between the fourth and sixth round. So I'm wondering,

1492
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: like I think the Patriots don't take a receiver before

1493
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: the fourth round, they'll they'll take him there or do

1494
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 1: you think they'll they'll try and jobs. I don't know

1495
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 1: if they like him like like I do, and Tamara

1496
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: obviously does too. Um, but yeah, I would Yeah, makes sense. Now.

1497
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: In terms of the NFL, I think they have the

1498
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: economics down. I remember, you know, back in the day,

1499
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: baseball was by far the top sport. It was on

1500
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, all the networks. And then the ninety four

1501
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: strike where the owners wanted to introduce free agency and

1502
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: the I mean they wanted to have Stellar Cup and

1503
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: the players didn't want to do that. Eventually the players

1504
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: want out and that that ruined baseball. You know. You

1505
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: have teams like the Expos that couldn't compete, had to

1506
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: move to Washington and they they landed up, you know,

1507
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: just on ESPN, on secondary networks, and and NFL really

1508
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: took over as the big sport. And I think that's

1509
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: that's part of it. If you don't have the parody

1510
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: that you have in the NFL. Okay, yeah, yeah, I

1511
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: mean I think that's a very minor part of it.

1512
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: I think the game has deteriorated greatly over the last

1513
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years in terms of time of game and specialization,

1514
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: and it's just not a very entertaining product. I mean,

1515
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: Fred will tell you you know, the three h four

1516
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball was as high as you can get

1517
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: in terms of enthusiasm excitement with the Red Sox around

1518
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: here and nationally those Red Sox Yankee Series and oh

1519
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: three and O four in the ALCS. I mean, the

1520
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 1: game isn't the same. The game itself isn't the same,

1521
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: and I think that's contributing to why it's no longer

1522
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, even in the conversation. I mean football had

1523
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: already passed it then, but it's no, it's not even

1524
01:19:55,640 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: in the conversation now. Yeah, I don't know why think

1525
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: though that. I think they're Baseball is on the cusp

1526
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: of a resurgence. I think it's going on now. I

1527
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: think with the changes that they're trying to make, I

1528
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 1: think it could it could have a little bit of

1529
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: a what are they trying to what are they change? Well,

1530
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, now they some teams can take advantage of

1531
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: the electronic communication between the catcher and the Red Sox.

1532
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: Did it Sunday they did it. Yeah, yeah, okay, but

1533
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 1: they're going to put a pitch clock in to make

1534
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 1: a picture that work faster, keeping the batters in the

1535
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: batteries they moved. They moved second base in like they're

1536
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: making the basses bigger. They haven't done that yet, which

1537
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: it will shortend distance between the bases. I don't think

1538
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: that's a huge deal, but they need to do something

1539
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 1: about the way the game is played, and I think

1540
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: it's not going to get fixed because the things that

1541
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 1: people don't like is the human element is completely eliminated

1542
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: from the game. It's all some you know, Amherst grab

1543
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: telling you what right, you know, this guy hits yeah,

1544
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: that part thinks seventeen point, it's less in the seventh

1545
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: inning on. So we're going to go to this matchup

1546
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: and that you know, and everything is dictated by a book.

1547
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: There's no managerial feel. I mean, a pitcher got taken

1548
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: out of the game with a perfect game the other night,

1549
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: because that's what I'm saying, that's what it says on

1550
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: the chart to do. I mean, like God forbid, you

1551
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: should have some excitement and maybe have someone go for

1552
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: a perfect game, which happens. I don't know twenty times

1553
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: in the history of baseball. You know, instead, we'll go

1554
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: with our little binder and make sure that everybody falls

1555
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: asleep before the ninth inning is over. I mean, could

1556
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: you imagine taking out Sandy Kofax working on a perfect

1557
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 1: game in the sixth inning and it's like Fergie Jenkins

1558
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: tweeted something out like, you know, I could have broken

1559
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: my arm and I wouldn't have come out of the

1560
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: game with a perfect game. Right. Oh yeah, Now the

1561
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: lasting last thing I have is does fine felt his

1562
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: success or or the show's success was. I think a

1563
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: major contributor was the fact that they wouldn't give in

1564
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: to the networks with notes. Like eventually Larry David was

1565
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: kicked out of meetings I either wouldn't allow him in

1566
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: because he was so contrary to what the network was,

1567
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: what NBC was saying. And then even after that, you know,

1568
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: they'd say they'd give notes to Jerry. He said, you know,

1569
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: I can always just go back to stand up. I

1570
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: don't have to do this right, So it like just

1571
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: sticking to that point like it ruined. It ruined like

1572
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: other comedians like m Jeff fox Worthy, another comedian who

1573
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: was like the TV safe funny comedian. With his experience,

1574
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: he thought it was the worst thing in the world

1575
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: because the networks wouldn't even let him in the writing room.

1576
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:28,799
Speaker 1: So I think that's what contributed to what the Signfeld

1577
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: team was able to do what they needed to do. Yeah,

1578
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: and you know that first season the show wasn't great.

1579
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: I was a big signfol fan, and I watched because

1580
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: I loved him so much, But it wasn't that great.

1581
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember, Do you remember that it was? It was?

1582
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: I believe, thanks Sean. I think if if my memory's right,

1583
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: it was canceled and brought back. You're right, I believe

1584
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: it was absolutely right. It was a summer like remember

1585
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: when in the old days, when you know, before DVRs

1586
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: and those kind of things. Sweet in the summertime, they

1587
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: would play reruns, but they would have a window for

1588
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: new shows that they were trying out, and Seinfeld was

1589
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: in that that window. One summer was ninety one or

1590
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: ninety two, whatever it was. That's how Beverly Hills nine

1591
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: o one. It was a summer filling. Yeah, Sean's totally right.

1592
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 1: I mean, then my experience on two and out, man,

1593
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: that's what Chuck Laury did. I mean he didn't take

1594
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: any notes, you know, and the defense on the network

1595
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: what kind of notes they get. But I mean, I

1596
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: think a lot of the best shows come from a

1597
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: visionary kind of person who does their thing and doesn't

1598
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, let a new junior executive give twenty year

1599
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 1: veteran of television writing a note because he or she

1600
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 1: didn't get the joke or something like that. Um, the

1601
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: phrase that I always loved, shout out to Alan Kirschenbaum,

1602
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: one of the writers we worked with. Just we'll look

1603
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, well, look at That's what they would do.

1604
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: They know that the network or the studio come with notes.

1605
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, yeah, we'll look at that, and then

1606
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: you know, circular fire. Maybe we'll do it, maybe we won't. Uh. Jeffson, Texas,

1607
01:23:55,640 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: what's up? Jeff? Hey, guys, how y'all doing? We're doing? Okay? Excited? Yeah?

1608
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: I got them question about the draft and I want

1609
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: to mention a comment about the show last week, and

1610
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: then something about Malcolm Butler. All right, there's a lineup,

1611
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 1: go okay, yeah, okay. So I'm for um the Patriots

1612
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: first first round pick, pick twenty one. I've been looking

1613
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: at some of the marks. Um. So my question is, um, first,

1614
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: if if um Olave is still there are twenty one

1615
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: and showing that he might still be there around uh

1616
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: the early twenty spot, would you just grab him or

1617
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a big I'm not a huge fan of his.

1618
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: I think he's good, but I don't know. There's other

1619
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: guys that I like. The pencil else is there? I

1620
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: like Alave. I just don't think that wide receiver is

1621
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: at the top of their list. After they get DeVante Parker,

1622
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: I think they're probably I'm with Fred. I think they'll

1623
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: probably go defense. I mean, if if if Alave and

1624
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie are there, I'm going with McDuffie. Yeah, you'd

1625
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: rather I know, I know you don't really want to

1626
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: get a wide receiver in the first round. So if

1627
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: they say he was there, would you Um? I did

1628
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: set in a couple of the marks like Dallas or

1629
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: Green Bay may want to trade, uh, swap swap spots

1630
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: in the first round and throw in like a fourth

1631
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: and fifth rounder. Um. Yeah, and it looks like it's

1632
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 1: still be Yeah, would you go for that? Yeah? Yeah?

1633
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know. Tamara laid out

1634
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: how many different directions the draft can go. So when

1635
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: you get to that point in the late teens, early twenties,

1636
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys there that teams might be

1637
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: in love with, maybe more than the Patriots. And I

1638
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: think that could be you know, potential. I mean, I'd

1639
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: love to pick up an extra you know, trade down five, six,

1640
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: seven picks and then you know, pick up another day

1641
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: two pick. I'd be all for it. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, alright, awesome, Okay.

1642
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: And then on Melcolm Butler, any of you remember reading

1643
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: a I don't know if I read this on like

1644
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: Patriots Wire, but this would be some years ago. Um,

1645
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: like Eric Blunt came up. He mentioned that he thought

1646
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: one of the reasons Malcolm Butler got bench was because

1647
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, he was partying the night before and smoking

1648
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: pot I mean could be I don't Yeah, I don't

1649
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: know if that story with Blunt. But why would he

1650
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: why was he dressed? Why exactly? Why do you wait

1651
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: within the ninety minute window too? Yeah, it doesn't make

1652
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: any sense. It's kind of weird because yeah, he played

1653
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: the first half. But I don't know that I did

1654
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: read that. It might have been on patre I mean

1655
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: that could have happened, and then something else could have

1656
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 1: happened closer to the game. And Bill said, that's it.

1657
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you don't. You don't bench a guy

1658
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: because he was out the night before and have him dressed, right. Yeah,

1659
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 1: but I'm saying. What I'm saying is that that may

1660
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: have happened, but that wasn't the final reason. Obviously. Yeah,

1661
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,799
Speaker 1: that had to have been something. Now, you know, it's

1662
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: it's a fact that he was sick and came late.

1663
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Like that there's a fact that he

1664
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: came late. It's a fact that he came late. I did. Yeah,

1665
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: I think we I think we left on Sunday and

1666
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: he came Monday. I'm not mistaken. So he came late.

1667
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: That's a fact that whatever the other part of that

1668
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: is la Garrett Blunt was on the Eagles then too. Yeah,

1669
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: that's true. Just you know, as a point of clarification, like,

1670
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you right before the game, I wanted

1671
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: to man to recount, but why does he know why,

1672
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Bill Belichi, You know, like people on the Patriots haven't

1673
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: said publicly, but someone on the Eagles knows why he

1674
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: didn't play. And I haven't seen that story in defensive blunt.

1675
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that quote attributed to him William and Philham.

1676
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: What's up, William? Hey? What's going on for? Right? How

1677
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: are you doing? Good? All right? H question? Okay, So

1678
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: y'all don't want a receiver in the first round? Let

1679
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: me whoa, whoa. I don't mind having a receiver in

1680
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 1: the first round. I don't think we're gonna have a

1681
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: receiver fall to us. That's first round talent. But if

1682
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: they take a receiver in the first round, I'm not

1683
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: going to be like harrump thing sure you know, okay, Well,

1684
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: didn't want one, right, you don't wonder in the first round? Right? Um?

1685
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean I would take Jamison Williams. Um, but I'm

1686
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't know. I don't love this class.

1687
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't love the receiver class, to be honest with you. Okay,

1688
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: all right, I kind of understand that. So, um, just

1689
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: a little just a little bit of push that out, y'all.

1690
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: You know, for who don't want a receiver in the

1691
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: first round, looks you won't have to move up and

1692
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: get what you want if because I'm gonna tell you

1693
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the team's gonna push back in the

1694
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: second round. And that's where uh George Pickens MATCHI Uh,

1695
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 1: guy more than automm gonna be at might not be

1696
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: getting none of them. So it's like, better go get

1697
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: what you need to get now, you know what I mean.

1698
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: It's a lot of teams. I think a lot of

1699
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: team's gonna push, you know, gonna trade back. So I mean,

1700
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 1: if you see what you want, you know far as receiver, decat, whatever,

1701
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: just you know, just move go get it, because you

1702
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 1: know we I mean, we had twenty one and we

1703
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: got us pensive Devin Lloyd, you know what I mean.

1704
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know. So you shan't

1705
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: move up in the first round. Move up in the

1706
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: first round to go get a receiver. I mean, if

1707
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 1: you want you want I mean Bill, if Bill want him,

1708
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 1: bein't okay what we think? So at the end of

1709
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: the days, no, that's what he wants. Yeah, No, I listen,

1710
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: I say the same thing for any player. If that's

1711
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: the guy you really like, go get him, you know. Yeah. Yeah,

1712
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: I love Garrett Wilson, I really like Traylan Burks. I

1713
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: mean I'd be excited for for all those guys. I

1714
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: just I don't I don't want to expend a bunch

1715
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: of assets to try to go get you need too much.

1716
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: I just don't think these guys. I mean, I think

1717
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 1: there's some good players, I don't think they're a great players.

1718
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 1: And I think if you think Jamison Williams is Randy Moss,

1719
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: which you know people some people do, then then I

1720
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: think he's worth it. I don't know, I'm not quite

1721
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: as as crazy about him, but I think he's a

1722
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: lot of even him and I like him more than you,

1723
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: but even he's just a one year guy, one year production,

1724
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: like I like, I don't mind, like Christian Watson and

1725
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: right too, right I write, you know, I'm try to

1726
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: have a guy think, hey, we just spent our whole

1727
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 1: draft to go get Jamison Williams, you know I And

1728
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: that's like you watch certain guys and it's easy to

1729
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: look at the rankings and be like, I love every

1730
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: single of the top twenty guys. But I think if

1731
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: you watch him, you start there's certain guys you gravitate towards,

1732
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: guys that you know, you say, oh, I like how

1733
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: he plays that you know, feels like fits their styles,

1734
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,799
Speaker 1: and you know that's That's why I have some opinion

1735
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: and a lot of those guys in the second round.

1736
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: I really like you know skymore even you know, I

1737
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: didn't put him back. He's fine, fine if they took him.

1738
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: It's it's some speed on the inside that that I

1739
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 1: think that they need. Ross's in Manchester, England. He writes

1740
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: in given Paul and Mike's comments on Willison Pikett the quarterbacks,

1741
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: where did the guys think mac Jones would be drafted

1742
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: if he came out this season top five or would

1743
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: he benefit six from the QB bumpet? Go number one? Overall?

1744
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: He would go six to the Carolina to a team

1745
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: that needs a quarters first quarterback taking right. Um, and

1746
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound really bad, but I'm gonna say

1747
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,560
Speaker 1: it anyway. Like I've seen a lot of this, Like

1748
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: if mac Jones were out this year, he'd be the

1749
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 1: top quarterback. Well, that doesn't matter. Who cares? Right? Like

1750
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: where would wrestle listening? He flan is he good? Because

1751
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 1: any of the any of the five guys that were

1752
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: taken in the first fifteen picks last year would be

1753
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: the first quarterback taken this year. I don't think there's

1754
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: much argument to be made against that, right, This is

1755
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: an exceptionally weak quarterback crop, right, yep. So the fact

1756
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: that these five guys that were chosen in twenty one

1757
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: are better than pick It and Willis And maybe you

1758
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: want to throw Desmond ritterin. There's someone some people are

1759
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: starting to give him some first round buzz who cares right, Right,

1760
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 1: it's just a way to write. It's a way to

1761
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: make you sound like you've got something better than you got.

1762
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: If Trevor Lawrence was this year's draft, they to pick

1763
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 1: him today, they would be just like, yeah, right, But

1764
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: the league wuldn't let them announce it for ten minutes? Right? Um? Uh,

1765
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: Dan and Virginia and Michigan, Um, welcome to marath. Don't

1766
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 1: take any guff from the guys. Uh. Is Paul going

1767
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 1: to be on the PU Draft Show this weekend or

1768
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: will he be down in the war room with Bill Belichick? Apparently?

1769
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Belichick apparently values Paul's perspective. Ever since Paul went off

1770
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: about the Patriots signing all the old stalwarts like Bolden

1771
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: and King, the Patriots have not signed and King, what

1772
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 1: about White? And mccordy have not siler anymore of the players.

1773
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: Paul name No Wonder the Big he big timed you

1774
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: last week and talk about being disingenuous. The Patriots free

1775
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: agent signings this offseason have mostly been on defense. Does

1776
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: this tip their drafting intentions one way or the other?

1777
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Of the remaining free agents, who do you think are

1778
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 1: priority signings for the Patriots after the draft? So? Well,

1779
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't think any of the

1780
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,839
Speaker 1: guys can't wait for that. It's not a tip. None

1781
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: of the guys that they that they signed on defense

1782
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: are like long term investment. Hey, this is you know,

1783
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: even like Jude On you know last year that was that.

1784
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: But these guys are all two years, one year, coming

1785
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: off an injury, coming off a retirement. Uh, you know,

1786
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: guys who have never quite lived up to you know

1787
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: in Wilson and Mitchell. You know, average NFL players would

1788
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 1: just fine, but you need talent. I mean, I just

1789
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: everyone's obsessed with wide receiver and I don't get how

1790
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 1: you look at the defense and are like, nah, thought

1791
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: that'll be all right, that'll figure out. I mean, the

1792
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: last time you saw him, they were terrible, and they've

1793
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: done nothing but lose guys or get older since then.

1794
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: So you know, I think they need a lot of

1795
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: work on the defensive side of the ball. And that's

1796
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 1: that's why I'm not like, oh, we gotta get a

1797
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: receiver in round one. It's like there's another side of

1798
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: the ball that that really really needs, like some pieces.

1799
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: Let's see. Well, there's some good non football ones, but

1800
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: I want to keep for now. Um let's see. Claire

1801
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:41,520
Speaker 1: writes in I did a pre draft compilation for Pat's propaganda,

1802
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: and I covered jan Dale Robinson. I had him in

1803
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: a very loose comparison to Deebo Samuel, but I had

1804
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: him more of a Rex Birkhead replacement than James White.

1805
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair, Paul, she's specifically. I think

1806
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: it's more of a receiver. I'll hang up and listen,

1807
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: who can run than a running back who can catch. Yeah,

1808
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: I'd agree with that, but he's played both. He was

1809
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 1: a running back and they converted them to receiver, so

1810
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: he can. He can do both. But I look at

1811
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: him more as receiving. You like the positionless offense, Paul,

1812
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: That's what you're you're looking forward. It's more defense, Mike,

1813
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 1: the positionless defense. So the other team just looks across

1814
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 1: and says I don't know how the hell we're going

1815
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 1: to do this. Patriots tried positionless offense once in the playoffs.

1816
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: Remember they like Mike hom and Awanui to last year,

1817
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo didn't seem to have any trouble with it. What's

1818
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: Lauren's guy doing down there in the other end zone?

1819
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 1: Like position positions? Ben writes in, Well, but we need

1820
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, not on. Ben writes in, he's in

1821
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 1: a truck. He says, be careful if you get rid

1822
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: of the draft. Does Fred and Floria want? I feel

1823
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: like we'll end up with a system similar to European soccer,

1824
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: where the top four to five teams in each league

1825
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: are always in the running to get the best players

1826
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: every year. They have the most money. Right, and there's

1827
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 1: no right, there's no cap. Yeah, so see, I you'd

1828
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 1: have to change rules. If you do that, you'd have

1829
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 1: to change rules. You know. I just don't throw it out.

1830
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 1: You know why? What is wrong with the way they

1831
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: do it? Um? Because if I'm a player, maybe I

1832
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: don't want to go to you know. Then that's what

1833
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to say. Wow, Um, then

1834
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 1: don't play. Yeah, you're not required to play right foote

1835
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: if you don't want to go to the worst team,

1836
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: then don't play um Neil from New Brunswick. Why is

1837
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: Fred advocating for destroying the NFL and taking it to

1838
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: the abyss that Major League Baseball is currently in. Without

1839
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,799
Speaker 1: the current setup, there is no Drew Bledsoell, the Patrons

1840
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 1: moved to Saint Louis in the nineties and none of

1841
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: the dynasty happened. Fred, You're too smart to fall for

1842
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 1: Mike Florio's clickbait um first round prediction trade back? Oh wow,

1843
01:35:55,520 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: wow wow. Yeah, I hired you hired Andy like three times. Well,

1844
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: if it was up to him, it would be three times.

1845
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:14,759
Speaker 1: First rounds raft prediction pain trade back to late first

1846
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,799
Speaker 1: round to grab the best player available, which will probably

1847
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 1: be a position we're already stacked at. I love Bill

1848
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: as a coach, I'm over him as a GM. This

1849
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 1: has been my stance for years. But maybe Bill will

1850
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: surprise me. Yeah. Just just how about we're good on

1851
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:33,080
Speaker 1: like slot corners and strong safety. Yeah, I don't think that.

1852
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: I know. Bill gets a lot of criticism with drafting.

1853
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: He's a very, very good I think if you look

1854
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: at the totality of his first round picks, they're almost

1855
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: always for need. He has this like reputation is like, well,

1856
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna go with the value. He doesn't care what

1857
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: the position is. Like more often than not, they take

1858
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: a position of high need with with those early picks.

1859
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you every single guy, and I'm certainly

1860
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: not telling you every guy has worked out, but I

1861
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: think I think there's a lot of need that goes

1862
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: into their early picks. Yeah, I mean you're potentially getting it.

1863
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 1: You're hoping to get a guy that can come right

1864
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: in and play right. I mean, Harry Michelle Win, I

1865
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: mean all those were I know their misses, but they were.

1866
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean I even I even go back, you know

1867
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 1: one hundred years. You know, they couldn't stop the running. No. Two,

1868
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: they draft Ty Warren in first round and oh three, yeah,

1869
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, like big run stuffing defensive tackle. And you know,

1870
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 1: the next year Vince Wilfork. You know, it knows tackles.

1871
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, he took something that you

1872
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 1: really struggled at in two and it became the best

1873
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: in the league. You know, with two first round picks.

1874
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 1: But in the next two years, like, I think he's

1875
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: done that a lot. Yeah. Twenty twelve I mean, let's

1876
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: go yeah, exactly, that's a good one too, and trading

1877
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: up to get them too, both of them. Scott writes

1878
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,759
Speaker 1: in Can't Listen, Lie but r I p Clayton Wishen

1879
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: his two hundred and twenty nine tackles in the nineteen

1880
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: eighty three is an insane number without an automatic weapon,

1881
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: averaged over fourteen tackles per game. I would rather have

1882
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 1: two more seconds than twenty one if there was no

1883
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: impact players left. So he's that's separate. I would agree

1884
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: with that. I would rather have two twos than you know,

1885
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: settling for the scraps at twenty one. Yeah. Yeah. But

1886
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: the thing I think we kind of brought up before

1887
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: was that we really have no idea how the top

1888
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: end of the first round is gonna play out. I mean,

1889
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: it's hard enough to predict the bottom end, but the

1890
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: top end, you generally have an idea, Oh, this team

1891
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: likes this guy. You know, there's generally a consensus with

1892
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: the first two or three picks. There isn't this year.

1893
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 1: So that could make for a lot of you know,

1894
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,679
Speaker 1: guys that you didn't expect to maybe fall a little

1895
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: bit to fall because maybe teams are gonna do something

1896
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous and different, Like you say, you use the word fall. Yeah,

1897
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily fall. It's just like our our loves

1898
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 1: aren't everybody else exactly, So the guy that we love

1899
01:38:56,360 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: it's available, or our needs aren't necessarily like we don't yeah,

1900
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 1: our yeah, that's right, our needs. Uh So I think

1901
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna make this an exciting first round, not

1902
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: necessarily the fact that there's a lot of talented first

1903
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: round guys, but that you don't know how it's gonna

1904
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: play out, right. Yeah, there's quite a few players I think,

1905
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 1: like the tackles that Raymond and and Penning to those

1906
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: two guys. Fault Jordan Davis, he's another one. I don't

1907
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 1: think he will, but the intriguing players that, especially those

1908
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: two tackles, because I'm I'm all all on board, no

1909
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: no guards, no guards, Like, let's just wait on that one.

1910
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:34,759
Speaker 1: There's there's good ones later. Um, but tackle. Yeah. Somebody

1911
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: somebody said on the radio they were repeating somebody else.

1912
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 1: Somebody else said that. We said, like they always do. No,

1913
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: but no one ever said, oh, we were just a

1914
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 1: guard short of putting the super Bowl. No one ever

1915
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: said it's good it's a good point. Well, our left

1916
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: tackle couldn't stop somebody like they're gonna have the others.

1917
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're there are guys they can find me. Well,

1918
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: one one could argue that the Super Bowl forty two

1919
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: they were a guard short I went in the Super Bowl. Yeah, um, Kevin,

1920
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't make that argument, however, Kevin and Burlington, speaking

1921
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 1: of Jordan Davis, one of my favorite times of the year.

1922
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 1: I love listening to your perspective on things. As a

1923
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: fan of defensive line play, I love to see the

1924
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Patriots get Jordan Davis, big guys, surprising, speed, athletic, etc.

1925
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: But do you view adding to the interior of the

1926
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: defensive line too much of a luxury as opposed to

1927
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: filling needs at linebacker and corner. I don't think there's

1928
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: a luxury there. I don't think. I don't think it's

1929
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 1: a luxury either. I think it's a need. Yeah, it's

1930
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: one of many. I mean it's a it's a good

1931
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: question in that, you know, Jordan Davis. I mean, I

1932
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 1: still think that's where the games want to lost. I

1933
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: just don't see the edge setter, you know, And I

1934
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: think you can find big fatties in the middle to

1935
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: at least hold the ford. You know, maybe you don't

1936
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: have a plus dominant player, which is what you hope

1937
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis is where he just eats up the center

1938
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 1: and maybe both cards and allows Barmore and the other

1939
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: guys to go to work. Um. But but I think

1940
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: it's it's right now with the team defense, the needs

1941
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: it's about guy that can set the edge, that can

1942
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: you know, get after the passer when they throw on

1943
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 1: second down and beat somebody. Um. You know. So I

1944
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: think that there are some guys kind of in the

1945
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: mold of even though Trayvon Walker will not be available there.

1946
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: But like a guy like Josh Pascal from Kentucky's kind

1947
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 1: of a cheap version of him. Logan Hall is another

1948
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:20,879
Speaker 1: guy that I came to late that kind of reminds

1949
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: me of a weird amalgam of a little bit of

1950
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Lawrence Guy, a little bit of Richard Seymour. Like long,

1951
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: that's that's the spot that I'm I'm interested in. And

1952
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: again to bring it back to like you know, if

1953
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 1: you got Chandler Jones, Dante High Tower, good two guys

1954
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, here's a defensive core. Now that

1955
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: we can put with Barmore. We've got a real good,

1956
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 1: tough linebacker who can play on the edge. We've got

1957
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: a defensive end who you know, maybe can do some

1958
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: other things as well that I'm with you. Offense. I

1959
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 1: think defense first round. You need it. Nathan and Tampa

1960
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: getting away from the draft for a minute to a

1961
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: question about Mac Jones going into his excuse me, second year.

1962
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: What we're some things you saw over the course of

1963
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 1: the season that showed development and what are you hoping

1964
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: to see him develop more? I just thought, yeah, I

1965
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: thought as the year went on, you know, I still

1966
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: think there were some some hiccups in terms of not

1967
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 1: knowing the situation, not getting the playoff, there were some

1968
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 1: of those, Um you know, come on, Mac, laugh what's

1969
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 1: wrong when when I laugh makes me cough? Uh? So,

1970
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I think there were some of the things. I think, uh,

1971
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, throwing the ball up the seam. I think

1972
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: that's a spot that we noticed in camp. It's like

1973
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of hands on his balls when

1974
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 1: he throws. He did it again. I knew it was coming.

1975
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 1: A lot of hands on balls up out on the seams.

1976
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 1: Uh you know. So I think those are the things,

1977
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 1: but um, you know, I think also too the same token,

1978
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 1: we saw a lot of glimpses of things I think

1979
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 1: during camp that you know, maybe we're apparent here and

1980
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: there in and during the season, but you know, because

1981
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: some downhill, downfield strikes that he threw and you know,

1982
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 1: some ability to manage the pocket. I think that's what

1983
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: was impressive, most impressive right out of the gate for

1984
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: me watching him as a rookie in camp, and you know,

1985
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: he didn't really seem to get flustered a look when

1986
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: when all the chaos was coming around him, something he

1987
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 1: certainly saw with with you know Stidham in his first

1988
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: year in camp where it was like whoa, you know,

1989
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he just got to throw it

1990
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 1: in the ground because it's been about seven or eight seconds.

1991
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 1: So definitely things he can he can improve. And I

1992
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: think just overall the I set it before. It's like

1993
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 1: sometimes last year he had the energy of like the

1994
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: sophomore who made varsity and was starting and everyone's isn't

1995
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: this cool? You know, I can't believe him here now.

1996
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 1: It's like you've been a starting quarterback for a year,

1997
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: have some presence about you. You know, you've been, you know,

1998
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 1: organizing workouts. These guys know you, So hopefully he can

1999
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: just take more command. Yeah, it seemed like they were

2000
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: giving him more to do each week. Yeah, a little

2001
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: by little, you know, open up the playbook a little

2002
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,519
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah. I think his confidence was going up

2003
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: and taking more chances. Yeah. I think I think that's

2004
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: you know, even if they aren't successful, just you know,

2005
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 1: being willing to do that. Yeah. I think it's an

2006
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic too because last year, going into camp not

2007
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 1: knowing what we didn't know yet, it was a lot

2008
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: of veterans on defense, a lot of and so you

2009
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: had a rookie with a bunch of free agents that

2010
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: had arrived running the offense. You know, I never really

2011
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 1: I don't remember coming out of any days where while

2012
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 1: the offense was just lighting it up. Today, you know,

2013
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 1: this year there's some turnover on defense. This is an

2014
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: experienced offensive crew coming back. Now, how does it look now?

2015
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 1: Is Mac and the offense able to you know, really

2016
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 1: get going against the defense in camp? Are they able

2017
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: to show some things? Because I mean, granted it will

2018
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: be a new defense, there's not a lot of you know,

2019
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: veterans and all that that that can throw a lot

2020
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: of curveballs at them like they were doing in camp.

2021
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: But how does that look that that'll be a big

2022
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 1: thing to watch Alex and fall River. Last week, you

2023
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: guys were discussing contracts, and one thing that came up

2024
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 1: is quote, the second contract for a first round pick

2025
01:44:56,880 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: is enormous. Specifically, Paul, I'm confused how this makes any sense.

2026
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 1: If you're a great player, your second contract will be expensive.

2027
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is a second round pick, same with dk

2028
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: AJ Brown, etc. Does Paul really think because these guys

2029
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,839
Speaker 1: weren't first round picks, they won't get the same contract

2030
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: as if they were picked in the first round. Makes

2031
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: absolutely no sense to me. Would like some clarification. I

2032
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, not even

2033
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 1: that hint. Well, I here's what I will say, Like,

2034
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 1: if you're like Deebo Samuel, to me, is a unicorn,

2035
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: like he was a second round pick, but he's first

2036
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: round talent. Like but he just rattled off three of

2037
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: those nons. No, I know, but I'm just saying that

2038
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: most guys, you know, they're not like that. Most guys.

2039
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand his point about the second contract for

2040
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 1: a second round pick. If you're different, if you're in

2041
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: a second contract, it's not different. No, But if you're

2042
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: an average player right right, where you were drafted kind

2043
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: of dictates your future contracts if you if you if

2044
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: you're better than where you were drafted, then you demand more.

2045
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 1: If you're on your second contract, what you've done on

2046
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 1: your first contract dictates what you get next one. Yeah,

2047
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: if you're not your draft status, if you're average, No,

2048
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,640
Speaker 1: but it but like once you're if you're drafted in

2049
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 1: the first round, if you're if you're the same player

2050
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: as a guy who was drafted in the fourth round,

2051
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: your second contract is going to be higher than the

2052
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 1: guy who was drafted in the fourth round. I don't

2053
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 1: think so, it's true. I don't think so. That's what

2054
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 1: the numbers say. No, he'll make more money because you

2055
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 1: already made more than the first round. That's my point.

2056
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 1: The second contract, if they're the same player, would be

2057
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 1: roughly the same. No, No, it's it's not. That's why

2058
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: I don't understand the email. Yeah, like, like Hollywood Brown

2059
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: isn't going to get more than Deebo Samuel because he

2060
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 1: was a first round pair. Oh in that case, you're right, Well,

2061
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: they're comparable players, but they're they're like the best, like

2062
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is better. Yes, I would agree. You know,

2063
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 1: so he's gonna make more because he's better, right, not

2064
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: because he was drafted in the second round of the

2065
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: first round. He's better, he'll get more money. Yeah, But

2066
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm just I think I think what he's referring to,

2067
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is average players, you know, like

2068
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: where you start in the league. You know, So you're

2069
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: telling me if if a guy gets taken fifteenth overall

2070
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: but he's average, he'll make more in his second contract

2071
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 1: than the guy taking fortieth overall who's average. Yes, no, yes, yes,

2072
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't wait. I think the market value will be

2073
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 1: what the player is, yeah, not where he was drafted. Contract.

2074
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 1: You'll tell you that every day your contract when you're

2075
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: drafted is slotted because of the right the formula for

2076
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: for rookies. Right, but once you once you become a

2077
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 1: free agent at the end of that contract, that now

2078
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:47,200
Speaker 1: it's market fact with others right at a similar exactly

2079
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: it is. But I'm telling you the numbers tell you that.

2080
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say for a first round

2081
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: pick over the second round pick, is it might give

2082
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,719
Speaker 1: you more of an opportunity if you were a bust.

2083
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 1: Someone might say, and Bill has done this millions of

2084
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 1: times his first round talent there, I'll see if I

2085
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 1: can on ten name recognition. Yes, but you're not getting

2086
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: a bigger contract as an average player over a guy

2087
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: who had the same production in a different round. I

2088
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: just don't see those numbers being drastically different from one

2089
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: round of the next. You get once you're in the league,

2090
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 1: you get paid for what you've done and what you

2091
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 1: are going to expected to do is Baker Mayfield, he's

2092
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: still under contract, right, They're gonna they're gonna have to

2093
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: he's not hitting free agent. He's he's got he's got

2094
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 1: one year on his deal. So yeah, so that's part

2095
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: of that's the problem with them being able to tum right,

2096
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: Like what does he get when he hits because he's

2097
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,799
Speaker 1: eight I think or something like that. He's under contract

2098
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: for like Carolina could make a deal for him, but

2099
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 1: they already have Donald. Yeah, so they'd have two guys

2100
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 1: under a fifty year option. Yeah, which you don't want

2101
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: to do, and neither one of them could play. That's

2102
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 1: kind of a problem. Uh, Jack and Anaba I interpret

2103
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots trade of a fifth round pick for six

2104
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:02,680
Speaker 1: and a seven by as an analogy to a guy

2105
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 1: who breaks a twenty dollar bill when checking into a hotel.

2106
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: You want to get your money into small denominations so

2107
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 1: that you have more flexibility when tipping. Similarly, the Patriots

2108
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 1: want to get multiple late round picks to increase their

2109
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 1: flexibility in putting together packages of draft picks for moving

2110
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 1: up in the draft. I just don't know how much

2111
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 1: that seven round picks. This, this doesn't do that. Your

2112
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 1: tipping analogies is relevant. By the way, that's a common practice.

2113
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm with you, yeah, for the for the money, I

2114
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 1: mean what the like the valet, you know, when you've

2115
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: got to get your car or something, or if I mean,

2116
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: I never allow. Allow, it's not the right word. I

2117
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: never accept. When the guy wants to bring your bags

2118
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 1: up to your room. Oh yeah, I you know, I'm

2119
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 1: get your hands off my suit. I can carry my

2120
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 1: own bags. You don't want to support the poor guy,

2121
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 1: that's how he lives on tips. I never really thought

2122
01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: of it that way, but you're probably right. Paul. Paul's

2123
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,560
Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the handcuffs on his wrist and

2124
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 1: on the suitcase, the big money satchel, the codes. Uh No,

2125
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: you're at the hotel bar. You want to have a

2126
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, get a few cocktails and you want to

2127
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 1: throw a little something in the jar if you're going

2128
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: to the men's establishment. Uh Philip A and Rio di

2129
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: jan Narrow. Apparently Jake Bailey will be the second highest

2130
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: paid punter this year. Is there any merit to the

2131
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: rumors that we will draft a punter with a late

2132
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,480
Speaker 1: round pick. I saw a guy mocked to the Patriots

2133
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 1: in on ESPN. No different, different, different punter in the

2134
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 1: seventh round, in the seventh round. I think Matt Miller ESPN.

2135
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 1: Is that a name? Yeah? Him, Matta Rosa is projected

2136
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,719
Speaker 1: like fourth or fifth round. What an absolute waste a weapon?

2137
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine using a fourth round pick on a punter?

2138
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean you could get a I mean, in all seriousness,

2139
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 1: you could get a player in the fourth round. Yeah,

2140
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 1: you could, Like you, I mean, it's not impossible to

2141
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 1: get a player players? Can He put it on one

2142
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,720
Speaker 1: every time from no matter where them from, no matter where,

2143
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 1: punting from his back a yep, every time. I'm sorry,

2144
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 1: but I can't substantia using draft capital on a guy

2145
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 1: I hope will never play in the game rights holding.

2146
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: When you put it that way, it's great true. I mean,

2147
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, the more he played, worse you are. I

2148
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 1: don't draft defense. I don't want to have to play defense.

2149
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,719
Speaker 1: I just want to score. Talk about positionless defense, no defense,

2150
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: that's taking it to the extreme. I got Andy and

2151
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks and receivers. H Raj says, if you were

2152
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,600
Speaker 1: in a front office, what would be one thing that

2153
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 1: you are stubborn about in your draft philosophy? For example,

2154
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade down. I really don't trust late draft

2155
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: risers like Dravon Walker this year, Zach Wilson last year,

2156
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Rubisky in two thousand and seven, et cetera. Seventeen. I think,

2157
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 1: barring a late injury, your first instinct in a player

2158
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: is usually the best. Usually, these guys getting drafted that

2159
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 1: high are a symptom of there being too much time

2160
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 1: between the end of the season in the draft and

2161
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 1: GM's overthinking their picks for the pick at twenty one.

2162
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 1: Give me lave Dean or McDuffie. I like your theory.

2163
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 1: I didn't like your examples. Don't don't put too much

2164
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 1: stock in forty times and combine testing, and that's where

2165
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: I would go with um, not Trey Von Walker, but

2166
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, like at a position where it's a largely

2167
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 1: irrelevant how fast a guy is straight line speed, uh,

2168
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, and we've seen some of these guys over

2169
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: the years shoot up. Now. Another guy who was one

2170
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 1: of those guys that really jumped at the combine was

2171
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, and he's been a stud So I'm not

2172
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 1: telling you that every single time that what about Don

2173
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Tari Poe, wasn't he kind of like that he was

2174
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: a stiff, you know, you know, a guy that could

2175
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 1: run a four to eight forty at like three hundred

2176
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds and everybody was like, gaga, Yeah, and

2177
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 1: he wasn't really all that good. Yeah, Yeah, it's uh,

2178
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 1: I think too. Like with Walker, I don't know. I

2179
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: like what blew me away about him was was watching

2180
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 1: him play. Um but like you said, the play that

2181
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 1: he made that they show all the time on Twitter

2182
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 1: against Alabama is amazing. Alabama is tough, tough dude, Like

2183
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, the end of the half,

2184
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 1: they had the little slip screen and the guy kind

2185
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 1: of broke it. Yeah, and he comes from the defensive

2186
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 1: the interior defensive line and runs them down near the sideline.

2187
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: That may have saved a touchdown. Yeah, that was an

2188
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 1: impressive play. I do think that there's some things to

2189
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: be aware of though with the testing. Is just that

2190
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: sometimes it represents more that the guy is in shape

2191
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 1: and that he's focused and that he's into it. You

2192
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 1: know that that almost has worked more to me than

2193
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: it's hard. Wow. He you know, so you don't want

2194
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: to ignore the testing numbers, but you also don't want

2195
01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 1: to put all all your stock right. What was Mamula

2196
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 1: right that he was the post child for it? Yea

2197
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: workout warrior. But even this guy that I like, woolling, okay,

2198
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: six to four runs a sub four three. I mean

2199
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: that your eyes pop out. You know, he can't play right, right,

2200
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: and look take that and then look at his game

2201
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: tape right, And I'd be very afraid if someone was

2202
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 1: going to say that's a top ten pick, right, because

2203
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:03,640
Speaker 1: he has top ten metrobles, right, But clearly he's a

2204
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 1: developmental prospect and he's not at that level. I like

2205
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 1: that the emails. I think there's a lot of validity

2206
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 1: to that. There's you know, sometimes your first instincts is

2207
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: the right. We's why I'm not closing the door on

2208
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeaux, who was the consensus number one overall pick.

2209
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: Now this, I mean you could get him in the

2210
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 1: twenties and some of these mock drafts. I don't think

2211
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: he'll be probably more around ten or eleven or twelve

2212
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,639
Speaker 1: somewhere there. But I mean everybody in their uncle had

2213
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: this guy going number one overall at this time last year. Yeah,

2214
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden he doesn't have a

2215
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, his work ethic isn't there, and production is

2216
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 1: not always there. He takes plays off. Maybe all that's true,

2217
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: but I think sometimes your first instincts on those things,

2218
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think there's huge uh. Like like

2219
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't think the examples he used, I

2220
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't think like Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson was the first

2221
01:54:55,480 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 1: round pick, right. I mean maybe he went the second

2222
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe someone thought he should have been the third, fourth,

2223
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,839
Speaker 1: I mean something like that. But he was a consider

2224
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: him a riser, Yeah, No, I think he was a

2225
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 1: first round pick from his college tape right right. His

2226
01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: last year at BYU, he made himself a first round pick,

2227
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: and and and he's won. That's a good example of

2228
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 1: a guy who didn't really play a lot until his

2229
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: last year. Right, So, I mean so some of it

2230
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 1: is not just oh they blew up the combine and

2231
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 1: now they're shooting on the board. It's that all right.

2232
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 1: They were not on really the preseason watch list. And

2233
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 1: then he had a great fall and then in I'm

2234
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 1: okay with that football, Yeah, and then everybody realizes, hey,

2235
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: this kid had a great year. He's really coming on.

2236
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna rock it up there. And that's why guys

2237
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: like Thibadeau all of a sudden start to fall as

2238
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: these other guys you know, performed during their college seasons.

2239
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Fidel's in Florida on the ace ticket. Oh well, Alex

2240
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: writes in, Um, where's he from? There are some of

2241
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:54,919
Speaker 1: these non football emails. Yeah, we didn't get to Alex's

2242
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: in Pentucket. Um, it's been a while since I rode

2243
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: in and wanted to play a catch up real quick

2244
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 1: before my draft. Question one, that's salty emailer from Saint

2245
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: Louis can go pound sand as you guys have been

2246
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 1: the only reason I have any draft awareness of who's available.

2247
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: Planning a wedding, grad school, and work all take up

2248
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 1: way too much time to do a mock draft or

2249
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: read those. So, like Fred said, screw you to that

2250
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 1: guy too. Welcome Tomara. Happy to have a new perspective

2251
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: to throw into the mix. Don't be afraid to rattle cages.

2252
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 1: Three my grammar pet peeves. I've been trying to think,

2253
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 1: and I finally got hit with two. A use guys,

2254
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 1: when people add a random sue to things that don't

2255
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 1: require it. That's kind of a slang though, that's that's

2256
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 1: not really grammar. People. People know what they're doing when

2257
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 1: they do that. Yeah, it's intentional. Yeah, and be y'all

2258
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: all y'all, which translates to all you all. That's just

2259
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: something that don grinds my gears. So it's not y'all,

2260
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: but that's grammar. No, it's like that. Yeah. Now for

2261
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 1: a thought experiment, imagine the NFL decided to limit the

2262
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 1: positions that you can draft to three per team. We

2263
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: have nine picks. What would you the three positions be?

2264
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 1: I know we have a lot more needs than three positions,

2265
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 1: but I thought this could be interesting to think rather

2266
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 1: than who to draft specifically, it could be a flop

2267
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 1: question as well. So you're basically saying you have to

2268
01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: draft your top three needs, edge, corner guard, I have

2269
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 1: to do different ones. You can do all wide receiver.

2270
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: Your egady said you had to draft three different He

2271
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 1: said you only get three picks. I thought he said

2272
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: only three positions. I thought you said. I don't know.

2273
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like the I don't like the question.

2274
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 1: I think cornerback's got to be on anybody. Yes, we

2275
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 1: could debate, and you could. There's nuance between the other ones,

2276
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: but I think cornerback has to be on that. Yeah. Indeed,

2277
01:57:54,040 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 1: Audrey and New Hampshire says, get this, Freddy Beatles take

2278
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 1: this morning. That would be uh mock Mark Burke trn.

2279
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 1: The Patriots collective draft personnel is allowing Bill to get

2280
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: the trading down out of his system because he so

2281
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 1: badly wants to this year. Now they can go ahead

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Speaker 1: and pick in the first round. Oh that's funny. That's

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01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 1: like taking the keys from Grandpa. Now that that's the

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Speaker 1: angle guy. I do think there's a better than average

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Speaker 1: chance that they end up at twenty one, because if

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Speaker 1: these reports are correct and everybody's trying to trade down.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be easy to do unless the

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Speaker 1: right guy falls and the right team is like, it's now,

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Speaker 1: we're now. You know, Malique Willis goes to the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Somebody really wants pick it and it's now or never.

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Speaker 1: You know that that I could see, Um, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think they're going to have

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Speaker 1: their their choice of who they get to unload that

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01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: pickoff on it. They'll they'll need to have somebody who

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Speaker 1: comes and gets it. Joey writes in the Patriots should

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01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 1: give the Niners this year's second round and next year's

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Speaker 1: first round for Deebo Samuel and use this first round

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Speaker 1: to get a cornerback. Well, if they do that, I

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Speaker 1: do it, you know, the one in the two for Deebo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: next year's one though, next year's one, it's more valuable

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Speaker 1: than this year's. Yeah, because the class is gonna be better. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know that for sure. That's just going by I mean,

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01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: you can't just go by what everybody says and then

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Speaker 1: ignore what they say. Right, none of us is a

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Speaker 1: draft expert. We're all right, all right, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the show for today. Um reminded that tomorrow we'll have

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Speaker 1: a playbook with John Rook. Step inside the playbooks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and er Scalipono John, And that means Eric Eric. No,

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Speaker 1: I got I got gotta take care of my cart

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Speaker 1: lined up though, don't. Oh we got a guest lined up.

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Speaker 1: Oh who's that calling on the subway Fresh Expert Hotline?

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Speaker 1: You got Buster crabs refresh? Is that a thing? Russell

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Speaker 1: Baxter Andrew Callahan. Yeah, see, these are all things that

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Speaker 1: should be things you know, you know and instead of yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll save that off. All right, Um, Thursday Patriots Unfelt.

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