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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling

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Speaker 1: through the Friday edition of the program. Yesterday we got

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Speaker 1: the brand new American Pope, and as a result, we

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Speaker 1: did not spend as much time breaking down Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: disastrous appearance on the view. And I think Democrats actually

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Speaker 1: got a break by the fact that the pope announcement

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Speaker 1: happened while Biden was doing an interview, because it was

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Speaker 1: an unmitigated disaster. And for those of you out there

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Speaker 1: know that Biden was never able to be president, We

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Speaker 1: know that the media was willing to carry water for him,

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Speaker 1: why do you keep talking about it? I think it's

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Speaker 1: hugely important to hold the media accountable because it also

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Speaker 1: delegitimizes any of their reporting now about Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: whether or not he's fit to be in office. And

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Speaker 1: you could say, well, we know he's fit, yes, but

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Speaker 1: you have to persuade. Politics is the art of persuasion,

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Speaker 1: and if you can delegitimize the arguments of people who

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Speaker 1: are dishonest over time, that's how you win a landslide.

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Speaker 1: In all fifty states, which is what Trump did in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and what we hope will continue in

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Speaker 1: So this matters for that reason, and we did not

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Speaker 1: play this. But there seems to be a series of

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Speaker 1: revelations that must be particularly devastating to Joe Biden, which

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Speaker 1: we told you would happen as soon as his political

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Speaker 1: career was over. The truth would finally be told, appear

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Speaker 1: maybe in this new book that's coming out from Alex

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Speaker 1: Thompson and from Jake Tapper, whatever you think of them

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Speaker 1: as the source. It appears that this is going to

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Speaker 1: be uniquely devastating, not just to Joe Biden, but to

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and their legacy media allies who continued

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Speaker 1: to argue, hey, he's able to do this job. And

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Speaker 1: so they're trying to get in front of this. This

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Speaker 1: is my theory back and they're trying to get out

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Speaker 1: in front of this and pre butt it. A bit

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Speaker 1: a slight adjustment to that Clay. It wasn't that he

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Speaker 1: was okay to do the job. It's that he was

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Speaker 1: the best he had ever been. It's that he was

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Speaker 1: sharp as attack. That's right. If you didn't see this

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Speaker 1: the way they did, you were the propagandist. You were

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Speaker 1: the person that was living in a fantasy. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: could challenge somebody to a cognitive test and a push

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Speaker 1: up contest, anybody in the room, and he was going

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Speaker 1: to win. That was the tone for four years. I

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Speaker 1: just that's what it wasn't Okay, guys, he's a little enfeebled,

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Speaker 1: but we still think that when push comes to shove,

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Speaker 1: you know, he could make the wise judgment from the wheelchair,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, if he has to. It was he's awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's the best version he's ever been. Sorry, I just

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Speaker 1: I think that's a I think that's true. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even just that he could do the job

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Speaker 1: to your point, for the Joe Scarboroughs of the world.

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Speaker 1: In many of MSNBC's host it was Biden's not just

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Speaker 1: doing the job. He's great at it and he's the

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Speaker 1: best version of himself. Yes, I think the phrase sharp

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Speaker 1: as attack will never be the same after the Biden era,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Okay. So he was asked about this and

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Speaker 1: do you believe this by the way that the Biden

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Speaker 1: people must know that this is going to be devastating,

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Speaker 1: because otherwise, why are they deciding to do interviews. I

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Speaker 1: guess another argument could be, well, this is just the

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Speaker 1: Biden money train, and they're trying to chug along and

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Speaker 1: hoover up as much cash as they possibly can. But

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Speaker 1: I don't even think that's working anymore because we know

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Speaker 1: Hunter's basically bankrupt. I think this is about trying to

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Speaker 1: prebut the arguments that are soon going to be impossible

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Speaker 1: to ignore because you know, even CNN, when Jake Tabbert

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Speaker 1: writes the book, they're going to treat it like I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's the Great Gatsby that's just been released for the

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Speaker 1: first time. I think it's also it's it's damage assessment,

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Speaker 1: and it's who is going to you know, since since

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Speaker 1: they have had this blow up within the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 1: which this last election, the Hoole Biden kam La fiasco

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Speaker 1: clearly was Clay, I think that part of this also

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Speaker 1: really it's an open field that doesn't really exist. It's

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Speaker 1: which is gone. Okay, let's go ahead and let's play.

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Speaker 1: This was Alyssa Fara Griffin, who used to work in

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Speaker 1: so that's the important pivot here. Biden tries to argue, Oh,

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Speaker 1: That's totally untrue. Can't even make the argument himself, and

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Speaker 1: Jill Biden has to step in and try and make

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Speaker 1: the argument for him. Listen, what is your response to

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Speaker 1: these allegations?

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Speaker 2: Are these sources wrong?

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Speaker 3: They're wrong. There's nothing to sustain that number one. Number two,

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Speaker 3: you know, think of what we were left for. We

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Speaker 3: left for the circumstance where we had an insurrection and

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Speaker 3: I started were nonsensus civil war. We had a circumstance

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Speaker 3: up over a million people dying. A million people dying.

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Speaker 3: And we're also in a situation where we found ourselves

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Speaker 3: unable to deal with a lot of just basic issues.

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Speaker 3: And I won't go into him. It's an interesting time.

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Speaker 3: And so we went to work and we got it done.

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Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm well, and you know, one of the things

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Speaker 4: I think is that the people who wrote those books

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Speaker 4: didn't see how hard Joe worked every single day.

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Speaker 1: So she goes on and tries to make the argument

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Speaker 1: I saw Joe Biden work so hard and everything else.

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Speaker 1: I just think this is again a lot of this

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Speaker 1: went under the radar, fortunately for Democrats, because the Pope

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Speaker 1: noticed this. The only reason you're on that program is

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Speaker 1: is what you saw Jill talk for over a minute.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you think about her, she was ten thousand times

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Speaker 1: as effective of a communicator in that answer as Biden

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Speaker 1: himself was. Well. I also think that a big part

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Speaker 1: that they realize they've humiliated their own voters, They've humiliated

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Speaker 1: there are a lot Journalists can get away with a lot,

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Speaker 1: but you know, they can lie, they can be totally

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Speaker 1: how they're like making fun of the Republicans, no matter what,

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Speaker 1: Trump actually defeated us. Right, So they have disappointed and

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Speaker 1: I think part of this clay is damage control within

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Speaker 1: their tribe, so to speak. This is why Biden's going

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Speaker 1: they've got to make the Democrat audience feel like, hey,

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Speaker 1: That isn't we have no ethics, and we made you

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Speaker 1: that's actually what happened. Would it not help them if

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Speaker 1: Biden just vanished, though, Like if you were trying to

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Speaker 1: After you go out outside the wire, they're still figuring

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Speaker 1: who they lost the election to, what promises were made

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Speaker 1: this is not going to go away. And a part

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Speaker 1: of me thinks that Biden cares about his legacy. Jill

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Speaker 1: certainly cares about Biden's legacy. What they should do is

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Speaker 1: just have him vanish. Most presidents who choose not to

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Speaker 1: up at the White House. Now, I know he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a great relationship with Trump, but they have unveiled

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Speaker 1: a new Barbara Bush stamp Milania did yesterday. Looks fabulous.

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Speaker 1: By the way, George W. Bush and more. Bush wouldn't

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Speaker 1: go to the White House. Clay, I think this is

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Speaker 1: the last. This is the last gasp of Bidenism on

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Speaker 1: the public stage period. I don't think this is about

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Speaker 1: him trying to get more money, but that's not happening.

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Speaker 1: He has nothing to like, He has nothing left to sell.

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Speaker 1: He sold his office and his soul. It's all over, right,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing left. So this is the last of It's

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Speaker 2: Well, Clay, I was you know what, I didn't want

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Speaker 2: All right, So this is easy. I've been thinking about

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Speaker 1: in the long term geopolitical relationship between India and Pakistan

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Speaker 1: and the danger that that relationship can provoke and has

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Speaker 1: recently flared up. What should we know? What is the

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Speaker 1: important thing that you think the average American right now

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Speaker 1: should know about why this matters?

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Speaker 2: All? Right? Three things are easy, real simple to understand.

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Speaker 2: First and foremost, this has been going on since nineteen

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Speaker 2: forty eight when Britain gave that region up. They split

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Speaker 2: in two based on Hindu in Muslim back backgrounds. So

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Speaker 2: ever since they're the region of Kashmir has been contentious.

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Speaker 2: They've had three wars, multiple skirmishes, So this is a

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Speaker 2: long running thing that's going on, so it's not out

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Speaker 2: of then, no wear out of news. So that's the

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Speaker 2: first thing. The other thing, the most important thing by

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Speaker 2: far is you know, this is a very strategic place

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Speaker 2: for the United States because as we try and you know,

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Speaker 2: reshore a lot of our industrialization and pull it out

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Speaker 2: of China in particular antibiotics, you know, other different industrial capacities,

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Speaker 2: and we partner with India, that's really going to give

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Speaker 2: us a lot more leverage on the world stage economically.

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Speaker 2: So I think understanding those ties. You know, there is

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a tricky one with India being

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Speaker 2: tied to Russia and receiving all of its weapons or

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Speaker 2: a lot of it's you know, really substantial military support

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Speaker 2: from Russia. But you have the same thing with China

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Speaker 2: and Pakistan, so that makes it a little odd. But

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Speaker 2: the number one thing, hands down by far, is that

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Speaker 2: these are both nuclear countries. And I just for me

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Speaker 2: right now, after having suffered through the last four years

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Speaker 2: with Ukraine and being on the precipice there, this one's

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Speaker 2: even more strenuous to me because there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: pretty radical people in these countries and they are die hard.

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Speaker 2: So those are the real top three things. Obviously on Monday,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to dig into these in a lot more depth.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dave, we're speaking of David Rutherford. He is

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Speaker 1: part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. He's launched

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Speaker 1: the Dave Rutherford Show, David Rutherford Show, which is doing

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Speaker 1: fantastic numbers already because you guys are understanding just what

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Speaker 1: a great program it is, and we appreciate that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dave Pambondi announced one of the largest fentanyl seizures in

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Speaker 1: history this week, clearly because of the change in the

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Speaker 1: way this administration approaches the border compared to what they

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Speaker 1: had with Joe Biden before. Right wide open border, bad

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Speaker 1: border with actual security procedures and law and order in place. Good,

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Speaker 1: But now it starts to raise I think the question

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Speaker 1: again about well, what about going more to the source,

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Speaker 1: not just stopping the end users from getting their hands

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Speaker 1: on this from dealers on the streets, the cartels who

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Speaker 1: pull those strings, but the cartel's on the Mexican side

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Speaker 1: of the border, somebody from the special operations community. How

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Speaker 1: do you think it goes? If Trump follows through and

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Speaker 1: what was talked about early on here with using much

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Speaker 1: more aggressive tactics, including special Operators when necessary to go

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Speaker 1: after top cartel guys across the border.

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Speaker 2: I personally think it could be substantial. The challenge, as

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Speaker 2: you both know, is how integrated the cartels are in

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Speaker 2: the political system in Mexico. You know, I'm still waiting

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Speaker 2: to see a more strict stance by the President of Mexico.

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Speaker 2: She's not doing that, I know. You know, at first,

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Speaker 2: what I would love to see is US really integrate

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Speaker 2: into their intelligence apparatus, start sharing intel, you know, get

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Speaker 2: some assistance with US and our intelligence in particular the

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Speaker 2: NSA to really kind of slow roll and take these

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Speaker 2: guys down a little bit more. But you know, in

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Speaker 2: terms of getting kinetic and putting you know, TAG or

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Speaker 2: Dan Nick, you know, Delta or Seal Team six on

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Speaker 2: the ground or even GV ground branch. You know, I

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Speaker 2: want to reserve that for a little bit to see

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Speaker 2: what the reaction will be, because from what I'm hearing

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Speaker 2: from a lot of people, there's already you know, the

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Speaker 2: turf war has really begun. Because we've cut off their

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Speaker 2: their massive sources of funding from human trafficking, We're debilitating

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Speaker 2: their fentanyl distribution. So that's going to cause a lot

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Speaker 2: more problems. I think we hold off on the kinetics,

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Speaker 2: we really lean in for intelligence support initially.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's Friday. You have covered a wide range

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Speaker 1: from guerrillas fighting humans, to to the India Pakistan to

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Speaker 1: how to handle the cartels in Mexico. You also weighed

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Speaker 1: in Buck and I were talking. Was it last week

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Speaker 1: or this week? I can't even remember about the rock

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Speaker 1: and uh Buck, I believe played audio from you as

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Speaker 1: a Navy Seal spoiler alert nineteen ninety five film The

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Speaker 1: Navy Seals found themselves in a tough situation against the Marines.

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Speaker 1: You said, that's never happening. They're never putting themselves in

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Speaker 1: that spot.

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Speaker 2: I did, But I mean, obviously, those those gentlemen their

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Speaker 2: plan of getting into Alphatraz, which is supposedly one of

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Speaker 2: the most secure places ever. You know, that's a good plan.

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Speaker 2: I you know, my whole thing was it was having

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Speaker 2: you know, master chiefs. Jenny Chalker was in that movie

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Speaker 2: with that with Joe Hawes and Decker and instructor Decker,

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Speaker 2: and I love these guys so much.

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Speaker 1: They played a wait they were at with David. This

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Speaker 1: is important. I didn't realize this. There were actual seals

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Speaker 1: who were in the like former seals were in the movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, command my my. When I was at Buds

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Speaker 2: the command master Chief was Dennis Talker, who was a

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Speaker 2: plank owner at Seal Team six. When when when Dick

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Speaker 2: Marcinko started he chose that he was one of the

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Speaker 2: original guys. Well, he was in the movie along with

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Speaker 2: two instructors of mine Joe Haas and an instructor Decker

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Speaker 2: and these guys like it was really kind of the

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Speaker 2: first time other than Hubert Humphreys in a couple others,

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Speaker 2: he's the real guru of Seal tactical uh consulting in

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Speaker 2: the movie business. But these guys, he was the first

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Speaker 2: time that they were. There was a ton of Team

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Speaker 2: guys in this movie. It was awesome to see them.

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Speaker 2: We loved it.

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Speaker 1: That's very very cool. Idea did you know this whole time?

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Speaker 1: I know they were actual seals playing seals in The Rock,

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Speaker 1: which is a movie we love. Probably made it even

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Speaker 1: tougher for them to get wiped out by the Marines

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Speaker 1: like they did. How did those guys, how did those

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Speaker 1: guys show themselves hanging out with the seals after that? Bro,

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Speaker 1: you went in as the seal and got taken out

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Speaker 1: by the Marines. I would think that, yeah, you get

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Speaker 1: to be in a Hollywood movie. Downside, you got murdered,

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Speaker 1: taken out by guys you're supposed to be able to

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Speaker 1: kick their asks. This would be like New York bucketting

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Speaker 1: choked out by Jake Tapper. I don't Yeah, we get

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Speaker 1: to be in a movie, but I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we can show ourselves anymore on

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Speaker 1: in media, ye know? After that? Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: Jake Tapper taps you out, You're you're in trouble. Will

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Speaker 1: we haven't forgotten about Bernie Sanders. He's fighting the Oligaucky

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Speaker 1: from a private jet because that's the best way to

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Speaker 1: show people that you care about the working class. That's

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Speaker 1: a very good Bernie Sanders. I did grow up in

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Speaker 1: New York, as did Bernie, so this is where it

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Speaker 1: comes from. I do you think anybody who was actually

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Speaker 1: some of the challenges when you get really powerful is

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Speaker 1: people will not say to you hey, this might be

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Speaker 1: a bad look. Do you think anybody went to Bernie

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, I understand that it's hard to travel

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Speaker 1: access to a private jet, but the entire purpose of

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Speaker 1: your speaking tour is fighting the oligarch. It is insanely

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Speaker 1: hypocritical for you to be traveling in private playing. Do

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Speaker 1: you think he actually was asked this or do you

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Speaker 1: think people were so afraid of even having that conversation

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Speaker 1: that no staff member ever confronted Bernie with this? Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Like, to what extent did he consciously

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Speaker 1: choose this? The point of power is not to enforce

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Speaker 1: strict rules for everyone, including yourself. Right, If you are

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Speaker 1: a communist, socialist, whatever, you're a communist, what you want

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Speaker 1: is the ability to dictate different things for everybody else

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Speaker 1: than you dictate for yourself, Because that's real power.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is why people who say, oh, but communists want

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Speaker 1: a quality for everybody, No, they don't. That never happens.

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Speaker 1: Show me a communist country, I'll show you an absolute

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Speaker 1: hierarchy of extreme elites and deprivation for everybody else. So

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, the socialist with three houses at least three

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Speaker 1: houses at this point, you know, flying flying private. He says, well,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to it. We'll get to We got a

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Speaker 1: little a little time before we dive. No, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: really want to dive into this because I have no

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Speaker 1: issue in general with people who have the resources using

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Speaker 1: the resources as they see fit. But using private resources

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Speaker 1: to advance public causes that are diametrically opposed to what

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Speaker 1: you are arguing publicly is such an outrageously hypocritical thing

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Speaker 1: that I can't believe that an honest in any way

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Speaker 1: person could make this choice. Well, I actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a bigger problem, and again this is a preview.

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Speaker 1: I have a bigger problem with his message about the

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Speaker 1: Oli gaw key than I do with even his own

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Speaker 1: personal hypocrisy, because hypocrisy, the whole point for Democrats is

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Speaker 1: that they can be hypocritical because what they're doing is

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Speaker 1: so important that their own conduct doesn't matter. Right, That's

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Speaker 1: the so we can dive into that. You see a

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Speaker 1: lot of that in California, where our next guest, Steve Hilton,

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Speaker 1: is going to be running for governor. Now we're going

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Speaker 1: to ask about this because that's a non as a

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Speaker 1: non left wing loon. That's a steep climb. So we'll

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Speaker 1: ask him, you know, what's going on here. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's going to waste his time and get you

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Speaker 1: twenty percent of the vote or something. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 1: got a plan in mind here for how he can

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Speaker 1: make some waves there. We'll discuss that with him. We'll

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Speaker 1: take some calls from you Californians who listen. We have

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Speaker 1: a huge California audience, which you always have to remember

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Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans in California and they listen. Take

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Speaker 1: some calls from you about what you think with Gavin

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Speaker 1: Newsom and the rebuilding that was supposed to happen, the

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Speaker 1: Palisades fire. We'll dive into that, We'll dive into Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders will take calls. Basically, going to be a third

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Speaker 1: hour that is a plus all around fighting, all a

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Speaker 1: coffee