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<v Speaker 2>to the basketball from last night in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but first, here's what missed the cut not on today's show.

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift wears k C colors for her eighty seven shoh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's nice. The Pistons once again the worst record in basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and once again in with the fifth pick of the

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<v Speaker 2>draft and the forty nine ers in Jets open Monday Night. Football.

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<v Speaker 2>Will get to some other NFL scheduling things, but demons,

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<v Speaker 2>before we even get to thunder MAVs. Something interesting actually

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<v Speaker 2>happened in a Celtics playoff game last night, and it

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with the game. It was courtside

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<v Speaker 2>at the game Lebron and Savannah James and I am

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<v Speaker 2>I everybody. It seems like the producers and others care

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of effect that Lebron brought his own wine

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<v Speaker 2>to the basketball game. I'm not that interested in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I am interested in Lebron choosing to attend this game. So,

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<v Speaker 2>as Windy pointed out, this, you know, reminded some people

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<v Speaker 2>of Lebron's last year in Myami when he went to

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<v Speaker 2>a Calves game for zadrunas Ilgowskis's jersey retirement. Now, Wendy

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<v Speaker 2>also talked about Lebron and Savannah war and then he

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<v Speaker 2>signed with the Calves. The following off season, Lebron and

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<v Speaker 2>Savannah were in the Ohio area because of Mother's Day. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>Bronni was in Chicago yesterday and shout out to Bronni

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, for really doing a great job at

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<v Speaker 2>that combine a forty and a half inch vertical, the

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<v Speaker 2>second best of every competitor in the movement shooting competition.

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<v Speaker 2>He did. He acquitted himself quite well. Now, six one

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<v Speaker 2>and a half is not great, but six one and

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<v Speaker 2>a half two ten is something else with a six

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<v Speaker 2>to seven wingspan. Now, I saw some people on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet say Lebron should have had Bronni playing corner this

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. That made me laugh. I was like, oh, maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe the crazy wingspan, the good maybe more or

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<v Speaker 2>a football body type. But why did Lebron go to

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<v Speaker 2>Calves Celtics? Because I'm here to tell you what wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just to take in a basketball game. Now, does this

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<v Speaker 2>mean Lebron is signing this offseason with the Calves? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it on the board. I think it's on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>And more importantly, is Lebron reminding the Lakers guys, I

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<v Speaker 2>can do anything I want this offseason. I can go

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<v Speaker 2>play anywhere. There's gonna be the Olympics, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>guys get together and talk. And I want to see,

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<v Speaker 2>after we stood pat at this trade deadline, what the

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers do this offseason in order to actually become championship level.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they don't do anything this offseason to significantly

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade the roster, all have some options. I'm also very

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<v Speaker 2>interested if this is the last NBA playoff game. Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>goes too. It might be, but he also I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers wouldn't love seeing him court sided a MAVs game,

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<v Speaker 2>tapping up Kyrie afterwards. I don't think they'd love seeing

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<v Speaker 2>him court sided a Knicks game at the Mecca. So

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<v Speaker 2>it is just this was not nothing, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>not unintentional, and it was finally, Demonde, something interesting has

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<v Speaker 2>come out of Celtics Cavs or this entire Celtics playoff run,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just other teams star players getting injured and

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<v Speaker 2>the Celtics having the greatest cake walk to an NBA

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<v Speaker 2>Finals in league history. By the way, shout out Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Jamis played well the last couple games before we move

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<v Speaker 2>on to the MAVs. Did you want to say something here?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, I mean it was supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 4>short show, and you spent like six or seven minutes

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<v Speaker 4>somewhat missed.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that was just my own in my own

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<v Speaker 2>insertion to the show. Now we'll get to Thunder, MAVs

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So it looked like the Mavericks were going to

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<v Speaker 4>take a commanding lead against the Thunder three to one,

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<v Speaker 4>but the Thunder one on a nine or were on

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<v Speaker 4>late and Dallas couldn't hit their free throws.

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<v Speaker 3>That nine over run was led by.

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<v Speaker 4>Shay So you called it in a tweet the type

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<v Speaker 4>of loss that you can't get any sleep after. So

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<v Speaker 4>after a sleepless night, how do you expect Dallas and

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<v Speaker 4>especially Luke and Kyrie to respond in this next game?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I think that I still think the MAVs are

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<v Speaker 2>going to win this series. But they could have won

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<v Speaker 2>it last night. They could have ended it last night.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no real they were infirm control of that

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<v Speaker 2>game despite Luke and Kyrie neither playing well or efficiently night.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they Luke and Kyrie combined had combined for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five points with four minutes left, and the MAVs

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<v Speaker 2>were up six or were up five at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like despite that they were in control of this game,

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<v Speaker 2>they were gonna steal one, basically leading wire to wire

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<v Speaker 2>despite their two best guys not playing great because PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington is still a flame thrower, and Jalen Williams for

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<v Speaker 2>the Thunder was having a brutal game and Josh Giddy

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<v Speaker 2>continues to be unplayable. All of these things working in

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<v Speaker 2>the MAVs favor to go up three to one and

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<v Speaker 2>send the Baby Thunder home, and instead Kyrie never got

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<v Speaker 2>it going, Luca continued his struggles and Shay was phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>once again. So I don't want to just make this

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<v Speaker 2>about what the MAVs didn't do. I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>give the Thunder credit because Shay, who I had third

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<v Speaker 2>in MVP this year, he finished second, and the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who I had at one of the guys I had

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of him, Luca Shay continued to be the best

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<v Speaker 2>player in this series. He has been the consistent driving

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<v Speaker 2>force for the Thunder not only all year but all postseason,

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<v Speaker 2>and in this series in particular, he's given you twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three, thirty one, and thirty four. In his first

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<v Speaker 2>conference semifinals of his young career, he went twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>nine and nine, thirty three, twelve and eight, thirty one,

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<v Speaker 2>ten and six, and now thirty four, eight and five.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's how one becomes a superstar in a game

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<v Speaker 2>where a lot of his teammates, Flatley didn't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jayleen Williams five of nineteen, Dort four of fourteen. The bench,

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<v Speaker 2>aside from Cason Wallace, gave them nothing and Shay wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>let him lose and kept him connected throughout, so credit

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<v Speaker 2>to him. Now, Kyriees had an odd series because Game

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<v Speaker 2>two he only had nine points, but I thought played exceptionally.

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<v Speaker 2>Game three he was solid, and then yesterday was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the worst Kyrie playoff games I can remember. And

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<v Speaker 2>he has, particularly his time in Boston, had some bad ones,

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<v Speaker 2>but he just wasn't there. And then there's Luca, my guy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Luca's banged up, but he's playing and it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be an excuse. And I understand that Luca, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>his nature to always be yelling at the refs. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it has. He has become a distraction to himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost every single play he's he's yelling at the refs

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<v Speaker 2>every and when Luca's playing well and flame throwing and

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<v Speaker 2>doing everything a He's still yelling at the refs a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but not quite as much as this. But it seems

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<v Speaker 2>to and maybe this is just confirmation bias. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>to get him going like he feels like it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole world's against me. I'm going to show him

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<v Speaker 2>right now with him struggling, it seems to be pulling

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<v Speaker 2>him down a bit that he feels like that everything's

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<v Speaker 2>working against me and the refs are against me, and

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<v Speaker 2>his play can't pull him out of it. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he is the best I believe he's

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<v Speaker 2>the best player in the series. He hasn't been Shay

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<v Speaker 2>has been. He is definitely the best player on his team.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's only one other star on this team and

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<v Speaker 2>right now, he's got to pull himself out of it. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We have seen him do that plenty of times. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw him do that against the Suns. We saw him

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<v Speaker 2>do that in the series against the Clippers, even when

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<v Speaker 2>they lost two to two. Is a fine spot for

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<v Speaker 2>the MAVs to be in. It feels like they squandered

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<v Speaker 2>it because they had three to one sitting in front

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<v Speaker 2>of him. But Luca's got to be better. Flatly, he

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<v Speaker 2>can't hit a shot to save his life, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>letting thee what he feels is unfair officiating affect him.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's got to be better.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, and Kyrie like also have a like a

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<v Speaker 4>spotty playoff history outside of Lebron, am I.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, oh no, I mean it's he has a nonexistent

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<v Speaker 2>playoff resume. Outside of playing with the Cavs really and

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean he so in Boston, he was brutal

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<v Speaker 2>in their series against Milwaukee when after winning the first game,

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<v Speaker 2>they lost four straight games. He was I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you in those games he averaged less than twenty points

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<v Speaker 2>and shot thirty percent from the field and nineteen percent

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<v Speaker 2>from three uh. And then the next year he was

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<v Speaker 2>with Brooklyn and he was good in those playoffs, but

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<v Speaker 2>then he got hurt. So it's really it's one series

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, that series against Milwaukee where he was brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>Aside from that, he's actual. You know, he never made

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs in Cleveland before Lebron. With Lebron, he was

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<v Speaker 2>awesome in Boston. He the other thing that kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of because like you're saying, Luca's gotta like be better,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, even if he is better facing this team

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<v Speaker 4>that's pretty galvanized and plays well together, if I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's unlike a few teams that lucas seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>So Kyrie step it up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love how Kyrie has played this entire postseason

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<v Speaker 2>until last night, is I guess the point I'm making.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's been very good this postseason, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's been, you know, a distributor in the first

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<v Speaker 2>half of games, then tried to score more in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half of games. Again, it looks weird because in

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<v Speaker 2>their Game two win, he only had nine points, but

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<v Speaker 2>he only took eight shots and he had eleven assists.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was he's actually really trying on defense. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been very critical of Kyrie in the past. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's been excellent all year and excellent these playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Last night was an outlier. I Also the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>is the MAVs gotta hit their free throws that I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even mention it. Luca with ten seconds, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>Luca with ten seconds left got fouled down to and

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<v Speaker 2>missed the first one, and otherwise they go to overtime,

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<v Speaker 2>potentially go to overtime. Obviously, okay, s would have a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to win it. So I still think Dallas can

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<v Speaker 2>win the series. But man gets harder and now they

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<v Speaker 2>they could have won the series last night. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something else you want to say. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to move on to Denver.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't be going fifty with that many free throws taken?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean in a one possession game, and okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see missed one. Okay, see it was nineteen of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>or seventeen of eighteen, something like that. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Nuggets Timberwolves, which I'm going to stop you

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly read this question verbatim because I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>wrote it. I have a feeling who wrote it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have some questions about the writing of this question.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, either you're either gonna have to answer for

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<v Speaker 2>or the productor answer for. But we can go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Something about that this morning. That's so so hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so then I could sign up the series

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<v Speaker 4>two to two on the road after you dug their

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<v Speaker 4>grave last week?

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<v Speaker 3>Who could have guessed you would have ended up being

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<v Speaker 3>wrong about Joki?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, stop hold on before I get

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<v Speaker 2>to it. I'll open it up to the production room,

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<v Speaker 2>probably Daniel, who wrote this? What was I wrong about?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know? Just tell me. We were

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<v Speaker 2>all here together, I'm on TV, I'm on the pod.

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<v Speaker 2>What tell me? I'm very curious. I want to own

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<v Speaker 2>up for my mistakes. What did I what? Thus far

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<v Speaker 2>in this series? Have I been wrong about anyone? I

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<v Speaker 2>want to know?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I think where Daniel's going with it as probably

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<v Speaker 4>you were icking him out of that conversation of like

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<v Speaker 4>all time great all greatness.

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<v Speaker 3>Two games was all it took to forget about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so again, and this is why. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>that it's very busy in that production room and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot going on, but it is very important to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to the things that are set on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly if you're then going to ask about them afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>After two games, I laid out very clearly what was

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<v Speaker 2>on the line for Jokic. After two games. I laid

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<v Speaker 2>out very clearly that if he were to be swept

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<v Speaker 2>there with the full list of the last forty years MVPs,

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<v Speaker 2>to be swept would be Magic Johnson in the finals

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<v Speaker 2>when he got hurt, Jokicic two years ago, Jokic this year.

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<v Speaker 2>That would not be great. I laid out the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that there he is already of the guys who the

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<v Speaker 2>season they won MVP that is the shortest playoff runs.

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<v Speaker 2>Two of the seven shortest are already Yokages, including these shortest.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh just making it five games into the playoffs, he

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<v Speaker 2>was potentially going to be three of the eight shortest.

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<v Speaker 2>I laid all those things out as what was on

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<v Speaker 2>the line and why it was so important that he

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<v Speaker 2>and the Nuggets respond in those two games in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think maybe I'm wrong, but I'm very, very

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<v Speaker 2>judicious with my words. I don't think I ever said

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets are finished, they got no shot. I don't think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever you're delivered as if it was like done data.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was a lot of like, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it was there. What there were here is the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I think some let me call it younger

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<v Speaker 2>NBA fan and don't yet fully understand, but will as

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<v Speaker 2>they watch more playoff runs, the playoff games and form

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<v Speaker 2>our opinions of these players in a significant way. And

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<v Speaker 2>how strong your title defense is informs our opinion of

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<v Speaker 2>that team historically, those players and the previous title. All

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<v Speaker 2>of it matters. And now, did I see some people

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<v Speaker 2>going too far throwing out the Nuggets haven't beaten a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty win team thing? I saw that on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't engage in that because I think last year's

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets team was an exceptional team. And even if the

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<v Speaker 2>Celtics hadn't you know, fallen apart against Miami, they would

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<v Speaker 2>have then beaten the Celtics in the finals and they

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<v Speaker 2>would have beaten a fifty win team. I didn't write

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<v Speaker 2>anybody off. I did, however, have the weird standard of

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<v Speaker 2>my defending champion best player alive, three time MVP. If

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<v Speaker 2>he gets rocked in round two by a twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>year old, it goes on the ledger. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the most This is the reason the postseason is so great,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the reason why these games matter more

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<v Speaker 2>than thirty game samples of the regular season, because the

0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 2>truly great players then respond. And that's what Game four was.

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<v Speaker 2>Game three. It would have been legitimately shocking if the

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets had rolled over in Game three. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>natural inclination where Minnesota is going to relax, Denver is

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<v Speaker 2>playing for its whole life. They also get a lifeline

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<v Speaker 2>because Murray's not so spended. Denver's supposed to win Game three.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there's Game four, where both teams are somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>equally desperate, where Anthony Edwards answered the bell and Jim

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Jamal Murray was fine but not great. MBJ was not great.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Aaron Gordon couldn't miss. But the reason the

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggets won Game four was because Nikola Jokic said, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not f and losing. And that is the type of

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<v Speaker 2>performance that a great player has. That is the type

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<v Speaker 2>of performance that you need to see if you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to evaluate basketball players the way they've always been evaluated.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather than be like, hey, guys, look at this, vorp

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<v Speaker 2>by being like, hey, back against the wall, uncomfortable circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing they're gonna come for you if you don't respond,

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<v Speaker 2>says you know what, I don't really like shooting the

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<v Speaker 2>ball twenty five times, but I'm gonna do it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's what today calls for. That was great and because

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<v Speaker 2>of that game for performance, and because now this series

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<v Speaker 2>is going at least six, Jokic fairly inoculated himself from

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<v Speaker 2>any super harsh criticism if they do lose this series

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<v Speaker 2>because he made it a fight. But after two games,

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<v Speaker 2>that harsh criticism not only would have been in bounds,

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<v Speaker 2>would have been part and parcel with how we've done things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you another four instances. Yannis in his title

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<v Speaker 2>defense in round two. What did he do? He lost

0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 2>that series? But game six, Round two, Yannis after being

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<v Speaker 2>excellent that entire series. By the way, Yanna's had a

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<v Speaker 2>forty four twenty and six. Now they lost anyway, But

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<v Speaker 2>Yannis doesn't get dinged for that series because he was excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>He kept him alive, he put up a fight. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he gets dinged for the next two years, going out

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<v Speaker 2>in round one or I mean this year he missed

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs because he's hurt, but it's get in. Last

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<v Speaker 2>year he was hurt a little bit too, but he

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<v Speaker 2>gets dinged. That's how it works. And so going into

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<v Speaker 2>this series, I did something I've never done on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse to make a pick. I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I just I let the audience decide which way I

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<v Speaker 2>was leaning. But Wild was all in on the Nuggets,

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<v Speaker 2>Brew was all in on the Timberwolves. I felt this

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<v Speaker 2>was a coin flip series. Right now, I still feel

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<v Speaker 2>it's a coin flip series. And I am really intrigued

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<v Speaker 2>by how Carl Anthony Townshend Rudy Gobert respond tonight, because

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<v Speaker 2>now that pressure flips where if you're Rudy Gobert and

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<v Speaker 2>the only knock on you forever has been your postseason performance,

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<v Speaker 2>right uh, and all of a sudden, it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>the team you're on could win the championship. But if

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<v Speaker 2>they end up losing in six and the last game

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<v Speaker 2>the Timberwolves won all year was a game he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>at and where they looked better than they've ever looked.

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<v Speaker 2>Those questions are coming back in full force. And Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Towns, who people have said, you know how much

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<v Speaker 2>of a winner, good stats, bad team guy is he?

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<v Speaker 2>He needs to respond in full force. Uh So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>super excited for tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I do thay splitting them up going one in one,

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<v Speaker 3>just having them in a starting and then bench in

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<v Speaker 3>the second the second five.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean you say that, But the thing is this,

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<v Speaker 2>that's to me a little reactionary. Theo's are the number

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>one defense in all of basketball. They looked great in

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>game one playing together I and they have too money

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>resources associated with those guys two in order, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>to do that to not.

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<v Speaker 3>Play them right.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you do them, if you stagger them, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be able to play them enough minutes. What

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<v Speaker 2>the But what they need is Karl Anthony Towns to

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<v Speaker 2>be better. That's what they need. I do think the

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<v Speaker 2>Timberwolves win tonight. So now, but let's keep going because

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<v Speaker 2>this is there are more questions I have about the questions,

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<v Speaker 2>So go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Minnesota obviously has to go to Denver and

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<v Speaker 4>win on the night.

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<v Speaker 3>That Jokic gets his MVP trophy.

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<v Speaker 4>So when pedigree is the number one thing that you

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<v Speaker 4>care about, why did it not matter in this series?

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that even mean? I saw this question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't don't even know what the question means. When

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's like they got those championship red players,

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 4>they're coming off of the the NBA title, when they

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 4>end up playing some kids that have never gotten close

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 4>to that, and you were just like, oh, they got

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, the Nuggets are in shouble instead of being like, oh,

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Denver has the pedigree and like they'll take over and win.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, But so then again, this is where I

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 2>think people are assigning me opinions that I did not

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 2>assign myself.

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<v Speaker 3>That might not have been what was, but I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>The So I think I think you probably read it correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>I if again, any team in league history that loses

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 2>its first two games at home, the second one getting

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<v Speaker 2>run out of the gym, when the other teams, uh,

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, four time Defensive Player of the Year is

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<v Speaker 2>not there, there would be real questions about real concerns

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>about now The reason I did not write the Nuggets

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>off was exactly because of that pedigree, because you can't

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>say they're dead. Now. Did I think they were? Did

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 2>I in Vegas think that they were in really bad shape?

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Of course, at any point did I say the series

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<v Speaker 2>was over? No, the and it was weird the reaction

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that people do overreact to individual NBA playoff games. Bill Simmons,

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 2>who has been driving the Jokicchen Nuggets train for quite

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 2>some time, did a whole thirty minutes after Game two

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 2>about how the league's about to change and Denver is

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 2>getting swept now that folks for like were not as bothered.

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I think by that opinion because he has been such

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<v Speaker 2>a Yokich proponent. But every time your team wins a

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 2>playoff game, it feels like, well, who could ever beat them?

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>And every time your team loses a playoff game, it

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>feels like the sky is falling. I think that there

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 2>has now been a massive overreaction in the other direction,

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>which is people are now I think writing off the

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Timberwolves far too quickly. I still think this is a

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 2>coin flip series. And I also think that Denver right

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>now unequivocally looks more vulnerable than they did last season,

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>whether it's in this round or the next round or

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 2>in the finals against Boston. With that said, go ahead, Demanse.

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I love how you're just putting us putting us there.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>But we got you guys, I mean the I mean

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you guys are you guys are about to have the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest path to any and so I I do not

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I do not feel the Nuggets are inevitable. I also

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like with Jokich's performance the last two games, he

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>did remind people that he is going to be the

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>best player in any series they play, and that's hard

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 2>to overcome. Now, the sneaky thing about Denver and their

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:34.360
<v Speaker 2>chances is this, Jamal has not been good this entire postseason.

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Game three was his best performance other than Game five

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>against the Lakers. Game three he had the three they

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>were off Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then Game four on Sunday

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he was mediocre once again, and if not for that

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 2>fifty five footer, his stat line really doesn't look good

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>at all. How good is Jamal Murray going to look

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>on another back, you know, one day between games? That

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 2>to me is a massive question mark, because I know

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Edwards is gonna be ready, and I've gotta think

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Karl Anthony Towns and the and Rudy Gobert are going

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>to show some pride tonight and step up. So I

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>think this is I think this goes to a Game

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 2>seven with zero home games one by either team going

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>into Game seven. I think Minnesota wins tonight and Denver

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>wins in Game six, and then we get a classic

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Game seven. Go ahead and ask the follow up demons.

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so when we're talking about the Nuggets, is the

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 4>time to start saying never a doubt. It's hard not

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 4>to notice the Mahomes Chiefs parallels.

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 2>So yeah. So again, this is the third different little

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 2>mini question within this question that I think is utterly ludicrous.

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 2>So there's right now, there's no parallels. If they win

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>the championship this year, then we can start discussing if

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 2>there are some parallels. But the Chiefs going into this

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>season had been to five consecutive Final fours, three championship

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 2>games in the last four years, and had won two titles.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Going into this year. They've now been to six consecutive

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 2>championship games, four of the last five Super Bowls, and

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>won three of the last five Super Bowls, that's what

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 2>and their star player is in consideration, considered by many

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.959
<v Speaker 2>to be the best player in the history of his sport.

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh one time? Say it again?

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I do hear people saying that is like on his

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 4>way to be.

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Who said that that Jogic is on his way to

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>being the best player ever?

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean not like ok what I've had a

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 4>conversation with wild or Brew, but like people that I

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 4>talked to.

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, oh, okay, I think Demanse, I gotta be

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>honest with you. I think you're making that up. I

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 2>don't think you've ever had a conversation where someone says,

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I think Nikola Jokic is on his way to being

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the goat. I don't think anyone's ever said that to you.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I think you're making that up. And if they have

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>said it to you, I want to know who they are.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 2>You just give me a first name, because I don't

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>think I think that. I think that people say he

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 2>could end up top ten. I think people say he

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>could end up the best international player ever I have.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm yet to hear the jokicch is gonna be end

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>up better than Jordan and Lebron. I haven't heard that take.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it exists. If it does exist, all the more

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>reason to where I've been holding him to a fair standard.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But back to the point, this is where we have

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>to pump the brakes a bit. We have the the

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 2>right now this moment, the Nuggets are on the exact

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 2>trajectory of the Milwaukee Bucks. Two time MVP versus three

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>time MVP. I get it, who won the championship the

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>year before, and then we're in an absolute round two

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>dog fight that they lost. That's the trajectory. And I

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Bucks will ever be like Ah, they're

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the chiefs of the NBA. We haven't had the Chiefs

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>of the The last time we had a Chiefs of

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the NBA, it was the Warriors with Steph and Clay

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 2>and Durant and Draymond. That's a similar arc. Three titles

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 2>in four years. They want a back to back. They

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 2>lost the finals. That's the arc. So let's let's show

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>some respect to the never a doubt Kansas City Chiefs.

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Now we can move on to the Knicks.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 3>All right, ellis those heavy stuff? All right? The Knicks

0:32:58.080 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 3>are hanging on by a thread.

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 4>After a couple of injuries in that Pacer series, we

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 4>all love the next because of how hard they play.

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 4>Having said that, damn near their entire team is injured.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 4>But is the thing that makes them so enjoyable they're unraveling?

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean yes, yes, and no, I mean it.

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. I respect what Tibbs does and I

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 2>love watching the Knicks, but there is It's not as

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 2>if no other coach has ever thought of, why don't

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I just play my best players all the game? There's

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>a reason they don't do it, like there is a

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>reason that yes, every the Nuggets would be better if

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Jokic could play all forty eight, and the Thunder would

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>be better if Shaye played all forty eight. The reason

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>they don't is because it's not sustainable, and that og,

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>who's already been injury prone, having a soft tissue injury

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 2>is wild to begin with, and or not wild, but

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>somewhat predictable to begin with. And now I'm gonna say this,

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I think the Knicks are still gonna win this series.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I think they are going to find a way. I

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>think they are going tonight the Garden is going to

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 2>be absolutely insane, and I think they're gonna win this series. However,

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna be ground to dust by the

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>time they get to the Celtics in the conference finals.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's move on to Caitlin Clark.

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so Caitlin Clark will have her professional debut tonight

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 4>for the Indiana Fever. She's such a draw that they've

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 4>got to play in bigger stadiums to get the crowd

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 4>to fit inside. Will this hype train keep its stream

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 4>throughout the season and into the future.

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 2>If she's awesome? Yeah, If she struggles a bit, then

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>it'll die down until she's awesome again. But she's superstar,

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't really matter the sport, and it doesn't

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>really matter the gender. If you are a superstar, if

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 2>you have that quality, people are gonna follow you. And

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 2>there is also good momentum with the timing of the

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 2>WNBA season, not only being so shortly after the March madness,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.720
<v Speaker 2>but also the fact that it's going to be really

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>getting in the meat of the WNBA season when we

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>hit this sports desert, post NBA Finals, pre football, So

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>all that works in their favor. All right, Speaking of football,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs Bengals Week two, we do that next quick break

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 2>right back? What's right? All right? Welcome back in what's

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>right with Nick? Right, demonse, Let's get to the B

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 2>block Chiefs, Ravens and.

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Other Yeah, the chat and believe you'll finish in under

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 4>forty five minutes. You got a ninety percent and nine percent. Yes,

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where that other one percent is, but

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 4>uh yeah, I don't think you're gonna do it.

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 3>So we got to roll through.

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>These stop yamor and get to the question.

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 4>Yo, so your Chiefs have a date with my Ravens

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL season opener this year. Then in week

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 4>two reportedly get Burrow in the Bengals. A little dangerous

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 4>to start with Lamar and.

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Burrow, right, I mean it's perfect, it's so.

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Most dangerous, it gets to be honest.

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, first of all, the next time Lamar plays

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>well against the Chiefs will be the first time. And

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes the Mahomes has crushed the Ravens. That you lost

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 2>one game against the Ravens, and I think the Chiefs

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>scored thirty four points.

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 3>The also recently was.

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 4>That was that not last year during the regular season

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 4>or was it the year before? Because I feel like

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 4>I remember it.

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, i'll tell you know what I'll give it

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>to you right now, because it certainly wasn't last year

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs that I know for sure. But Patrick

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes against Baltimore in his career it has gone like this.

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Let me find it. Twenty eighteen, Patrick's first year as

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 2>a starter. Lamar had taken over the was Lamar hold on.

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Was Lamar the start was the starter for Baltimore in

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen. I think that was the year Lamar had Yeah,

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Lamar had just taken over Baltimore. I think it was

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>the only game they lost after he took over. Mahomes

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 2>threw for three seventy seven and a couple scores. The

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs won. The next time Mahomes played Baltimore was Week

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>three of twenty nineteen, when Lamar was the league's unanimous MVP.

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes threw for three seventy four and three touchdowns and

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs won. The next time they played Baltimore was

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, the Chiefs thirty four to twenty. Mahones threw

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 2>for three eighty five and four touchdowns. The next time

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 2>they played Baltimore was twenty twenty one, Week two. Baltimore

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>won thirty six thirty five after going for too late.

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Mahones threw for three forty three and three touchdowns, and

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>the next time the Chiefs played Baltimore was, of course,

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 2>the conference championship game. Mahomes in his career against the

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore Ravens is four and one, and in the regular

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 2>season he has twelve touchdowns, two picks, and a one

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty rating. If we would like to compare that to

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson in his career against the Chiefs, I'm pretty

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 2>sure it's the opponent he's had the least success with,

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>which is why before the playoff game he said, and

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I quote, I don't like playing Patrick at all. Lamar

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 2>has four touchdowns, two picks, a seventy nine rating, and

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 2>seven hundred and fifty passing yards and then whatever he

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.439
<v Speaker 2>did playoff game as well. So I'm not worried about

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore in their new defensive coordinator who was born around

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 2>the same year you were to Monsey in Week one,

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>And if you're Cincinnati, you've got to be livid that

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>your biggest game of the year, biggest game of the year,

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs get extra rest for the Chiefs are on

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 2>a mini by and since he is not what are

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you shaking your head about. Tell me, tell me, what

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 2>can you think?

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 4>You're looking at this the wrong way. They'll probably, I

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 4>mean they'll be they'll be rested as well. Better to

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 4>see them in week two than week sixteen when they

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 4>are injuries. I think that it's a great it's a

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 4>great chance for the Ravens. I'm not really Bengals, you

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 4>got that that. I think it's a great chance for

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 4>the Ravens to start their season off well by punching

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 4>the team in the mouth that knocked them out of

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 4>the playoffs last year.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>All right, sure, here's the flip side. What if the

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs beat them again? What if they're they have what

0:39:55.320 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 2>if the Ravens the Ravens, it was their season, they

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>the league MVP, they had home field, they had all

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.839
<v Speaker 2>of it. The Chiefs come into their building and beat them,

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and then the next football game they play, they have

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 2>to stand on the sideline and watch the Chiefs hang

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 2>that Super Bowl banner that they think was supposed to

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 2>be theirs and the Chiefs beat them again. I don't

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 2>know that could be problematic. And if you're Cincinnati, go yeah,

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>well yeah, And if you're Cincinnati, you have always started

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:33.320
<v Speaker 2>seasons slowly under with Borough. The Bengals since drafting Borough

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>in his rookie season, they didn't get their first win

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 2>until Week four. In the second season, they started one

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 2>and one. In his third season, they started oh to two.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Last year they started oh to two. They always get

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 2>out to slow starts. And now you have to go

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 2>to Kansas City when the Chiefs are on extra rest

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:02.240
<v Speaker 2>and the yeah, the injuries thing, I understand what you're saying,

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 2>but either team could be injured late in the year.

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>You're more likely, obviously both teams be full strength at

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the beginning, and this game could decide tie breakers. So

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I love it for Kansas City. Get you knock off

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore and Cincinnati to start the year early on. And

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 2>here's where Kansas City is in such a position of strength.

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 2>If they win those games, it is going to feel

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>like they are inevitable, and if they lose those games,

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.240
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to worry at all. On the flip side,

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>for Baltimore and Cincinnati, those become must wins Baltimore because

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 2>of how last season ended, because the Chiefs have had

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 2>such success against them, and Cincinnati that would be three

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>consecutive losses to the Chiefs for Cincinnati ever since that

0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Burrowhead Invitational. Nonsense. All right, let's move on to the

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>whatever game we're playing, which is right or wrong?

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 3>So we're playing right wrong.

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 4>H My Celtics went on three to one against the

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Donovan Mitchellis Cavs team last night and they are now

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 4>minus six fifty to win the East. Right or wrong,

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 4>the Celtics are a lock for the finals.

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gotta tell you, I've never seen a team

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 2>more of a lock for the finals. I mean that,

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, Jimmy Butler round one, Jannison Embiid are injured

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 2>and you don't have to play either one of them.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Donovan Mitchell gets hurt in this round and next round

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be playing either what's left of the Knicks

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 2>or this Pacers team.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, like three just three shows ago.

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, hey, everybody's gonna be like that track for

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 4>the Celtics, so easy if they end up winning the finals,

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 4>and if they end up winning the finals, that is

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 4>definitely what people are going to be saying.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, here's the thing, not if they

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 2>win the title. If they win the title, no one

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 2>will care. It'll only be if they don't win the

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 2>title that people and people are like, oh, well, how

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 2>you know they won? They made Here's the thing. If

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:04.839
<v Speaker 2>they don't win the title, some people will argue they

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 2>need to make changes.

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Because they won't look at this.

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Right. And but normally, if you make the finals, you

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think you're super far away. But if they were

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to make the finals and get rocked, people will then say, well,

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean the East was a cakewalk.

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead. Yeah, what if they end up playing an

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 3>injured team in the finals.

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, no again, if you win the championship, nobody cares.

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Honest to god, people don't remember this but steps first title.

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 2>So if the the the I want to get it

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>exactly right the team. So I've got to look because

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember exactly the twenty fifteen playoffs demanse Round

0:43:56.360 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>one they played New Orleans. Who was I think it

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 2>was without Drew Holliday. I think he got Yeah, Drew

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Holliday got hurt. He was uh he barely played in

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 2>that series. They get New Orleans and round one, round

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>two they play Memphis. Memphis I think was without Mike Conley.

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking it up real quick. No Conley was there.

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I forget who Memphis was missing. I know they pissed

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>because now Randolph was there. I don't remember that one

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 2>round three they played Houston that had uh what was

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Houston's injury? I remember people showing it all the injuries

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 2>that they every team was missing. Twenty fifteen their first title,

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 2>and then obviously twenty and then in the finals it

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 2>was no Kevin Love and Kyrie got hurt in Game one,

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 2>but they but nobody cares, like I can't even remember

0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>who the people were. You just remember they won the championship. Now,

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 2>if they don't win the championship and they look bad

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>in the finals, that's a different story, all right.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Next, the Atlanta Hawks won the draft lottery for the

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 4>first time ever. Unfortunate happened in the worst draft in

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.799
<v Speaker 4>recent history. Is getting the number one pick after their offseason.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 4>Is getting the number one picked after their off or

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 4>alter their offseason play?

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Sorry?

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:25.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right or wrong? Is still going to Holy crap,

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:26.479
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, right around the Jays.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 3>They'll go to the Spurs.

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.479
<v Speaker 2>You're fine. I don't know that the Spurs are where

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Trey's gonna go. H I do think getting the number

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 2>one pick gives them way more optionality where they can say,

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what, we're gonna do a full reset, even

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>though the number one pick in this year's draft does

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>not seem obviously not as valuable as last year, but

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 2>not even close to as valuable as two years ago

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>with Polo, But I do think it gives them they

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 2>can sell hope with via the number one pick.

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 4>All right, next, Brownie passes medical and is reportedly likely

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.840
<v Speaker 4>to stay in the NBA draft pool. He impressed in

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 4>the draft combine drills, but measured it much shorter than

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 4>he was listed at USC. Right or wrong, you already

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 4>know who will draft Ronnie, I don't know.

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I do think his performance at the combine changed some

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 2>things where I think teams will look at him as

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 2>higher upside than they had previously thought because of his strength,

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 2>because of his wingspan, and if he can become the

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 2>three and D, and people had real questions about the

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 2>three point part of it. But him finishing second in

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>that movement shooting drill, which is also a conditioning drill

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 2>because you've got to not be exhausted. I think that

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 2>raised some eyebrows, like yesterday couldn't have gone better for him,

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:52.359
<v Speaker 2>and explains a little bit why people thought he might

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>be a first rounder before his year at USC and

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 2>it is not. It is totally only fair to mention

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 2>when you're discussing how you know, underwhelming his freshman season went,

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 2>that the guy had cardiac arrest shortly before the season

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 2>started and they didn't even know if he was going

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>to be cleared to play, and how much did that

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>throw off any of his regular, you know, kind of

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 2>progression or schedule. Now, I do think most likely the

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Lakers draft him, and you know, he's in their developmental league,

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.919
<v Speaker 2>and that's most likely. But I don't think I think

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 2>that there's more optionality for Bronnie, particularly after yesterday.

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, next, the Lions are all in on this court. Now.

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.240
<v Speaker 4>They've locked up Golf on a four year, two hundred

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:45.240
<v Speaker 4>and twelve million dollars contract, well one hundred and seventy

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 4>million guaranteed, right or wrong, in Jared Goff's contract is

0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 4>worse than Daniel Jones.

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not worse than Daniel Jones' is because Jared Golf

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 2>can play a little bit. If you keep him up

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.760
<v Speaker 2>right and he doesn't get pressured, he's good. I don't

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>think this is a good contract, though it's not worse

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>than Daniel Jones' is but I wouldn't have done it,

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and everyone said, oh, you have to rewarding me, you

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.359
<v Speaker 2>have to do those things. I don't know that you did.

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 2>And I certainly think fifty three million a year for

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Jared Goff is rich. I'll tell you this much. Trevor Lawrence, Tua,

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love, Dak Prescott all saw this deal and were

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 2>absolutely thrilled because all of those guys are going to

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 2>ask for considerably more than Jared Goff. They just are.

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:29.879
<v Speaker 2>You can say that's unfair, you can say they haven't

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 2>been to a super Bowl. All that's true. They're all

0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna ask for more than Jared Goff. All right, last one.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 4>The NFL schedule releases tomorrow, so there isn't a ton

0:48:38.640 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 4>to talk about now besides the anticipation.

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Every year NFL teams.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 4>Every every year NFL team social media pages go all

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 4>out for their schedule releases, and everybody loves them, everybody right,

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:51.319
<v Speaker 4>right or wrong.

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Nick likes fun.

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fine. I don't like. I don't I

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 2>am not against it. I mean I won't watch any

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:00.760
<v Speaker 2>of the page I guess.

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Was doing like each week of them playing each team

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:05.479
<v Speaker 4>like it had like their mascot or.

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.799
<v Speaker 3>Like something destroying that.

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they all try to do something unique. The

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Chargers social media team tends to do the best, but

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 2>they all try to. Some do video games, some do

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:24.280
<v Speaker 2>like you were, like you were saying something involving actual animals.

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm sure it'll be fun. It's good fun.

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't have anything against it. I just it's not

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 2>really that Jason. It's just not for me. But I'm

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 2>almost forty like it. I'm not the audience they're going for.

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:42.319
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. I don't judge it.

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's just not social media for the Chargers.

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. Quick break answer some listener questions. Next,

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 2>what's right? All right? Well, demon say I didn't hit

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>eleven fifteen, but I think I can hit eleven, so

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm all right with it. Let's answer some listener questions.

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 4>Seeden Walder says, Hey, I just want to say thank

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 4>you to Nick and his team. This is the best

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 4>time of the week. I appreciate y'all.

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, that is super nice of you. Yeah, we

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 2>appreciate that, Seaton and I hate that this is I

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 2>guess maybe the wrong time to then mention this, So

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I apologize, but no show Thursday.

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I have a prior I have something that I have

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 2>to do on Thursday, and I don't I have a

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 2>surprise also for Demansey Shade's pulling up. I don't want

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>to reveal it this moment, but I can't do that.

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>We're not going to do the show Thursday, so we'll

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 2>be back on Tuesday. All right, Let's go to the

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:45.800
<v Speaker 2>next question.

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Bradley Hammond asked listener question, golf gets paid the Prince

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 4>Dak too a party? Love all come and do soon enough?

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Are you finally going to see the quarterback contracts level

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 4>off or will golf be a cheap deal a year

0:50:59.600 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 4>from now?

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, I think golf will be cheap. Adjacent like

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I think Dak's gonna get sixty plus million. I think that.

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:14.879
<v Speaker 2>I think the I think the prints and TUA will

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>be around Golf's number fifty three to fifty five ish perty.

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, and I don't know how Jordan

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Loves contract's gonna work out, all right.

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Next, Joey Kantra asked what amendment would you make to

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 4>the rules in the NBA in the NFL if you

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 4>were allowed to change one in each sport.

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Draft or playoff opponent. That's the one change I would

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 2>make across the board. It'd be unbelievable drama, it'd be

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 2>great television. It would also reward regular season excellence.

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Next, Jack Sullivan asked Nick, what percentage of the time

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 4>should you draft for need versus draft best player available?

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Is it different for the NFL and NBA?

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's wildly different for the NFL. In the NBA,

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the NBA, you should one hundred percent of the time

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 2>draft the best player. You should be totally, positionally agnostic.

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Whoever the best player is, that is who you should draft.

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 2>That's not even a question. The NFL, it's far more complicated. Uh,

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:16.760
<v Speaker 2>you are, if you need a quarterback, it makes sense

0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to reach and take, you know, on a lottery ticket.

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Be like, even if you only think you have a

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 2>ten percent chance of hitting. If you if the best

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 2>player available on your board is a position you're stacked at,

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 2>or a position to blow value running back, tight end,

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 2>and there's a you have a huge position of need

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 2>that's a key position like tackle, you can reach on that.

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So it's just totally totally different.

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 4>All right, go ahead, Jeff Jeff Carter asked Nick, do

0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 4>you think Caleb will be the second best quarterback in

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 4>the NFL by the end of his rookie contract?

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 2>The second best quarterback in the NFL by the end

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 2>of his rookie contract? Yes, I do, Yeah, I do.

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that Caleb will be. I think he'll be

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 2>a top five quarterback by the end of year two,

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 2>and I think he'll be the second best quarterback in

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the league up at the end of his rookie contracts

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:13.279
<v Speaker 2>by the end of your five I absolutely do. All right,

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 2>only ten minutes later and I said we were gonna

0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 2>do We got eleven twenty five. Pretty good. It's spent

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 2>a little especially considering I did the the lebron Cavs thing,

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 2>which wasn't even in the rundown. All right, I'm on

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Colin in ninety minutes. I've got the show in three

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