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Speaker 2: to the basketball from last night in just a moment,
Speaker 2: but first, here's what missed the cut not on today's show.
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift wears k C colors for her eighty seven shoh,
Speaker 2: that's nice. The Pistons once again the worst record in basketball,
Speaker 2: and once again in with the fifth pick of the
Speaker 2: draft and the forty nine ers in Jets open Monday Night. Football.
Speaker 2: Will get to some other NFL scheduling things, but demons,
Speaker 2: before we even get to thunder MAVs. Something interesting actually
Speaker 2: happened in a Celtics playoff game last night, and it
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with the game. It was courtside
Speaker 2: at the game Lebron and Savannah James and I am
Speaker 2: I everybody. It seems like the producers and others care
Speaker 2: a lot of effect that Lebron brought his own wine
Speaker 2: to the basketball game. I'm not that interested in that.
Speaker 2: I am interested in Lebron choosing to attend this game. So,
Speaker 2: as Windy pointed out, this, you know, reminded some people
Speaker 2: of Lebron's last year in Myami when he went to
Speaker 2: a Calves game for zadrunas Ilgowskis's jersey retirement. Now, Wendy
Speaker 2: also talked about Lebron and Savannah war and then he
Speaker 2: signed with the Calves. The following off season, Lebron and
Speaker 2: Savannah were in the Ohio area because of Mother's Day. Also,
Speaker 2: Bronni was in Chicago yesterday and shout out to Bronni
Speaker 2: by the way, for really doing a great job at
Speaker 2: that combine a forty and a half inch vertical, the
Speaker 2: second best of every competitor in the movement shooting competition.
Speaker 2: He did. He acquitted himself quite well. Now, six one
Speaker 2: and a half is not great, but six one and
Speaker 2: a half two ten is something else with a six
Speaker 2: to seven wingspan. Now, I saw some people on the
Speaker 2: internet say Lebron should have had Bronni playing corner this
Speaker 2: whole time. That made me laugh. I was like, oh, maybe,
Speaker 2: like maybe the crazy wingspan, the good maybe more or
Speaker 2: a football body type. But why did Lebron go to
Speaker 2: Calves Celtics? Because I'm here to tell you what wasn't
Speaker 2: just to take in a basketball game. Now, does this
Speaker 2: mean Lebron is signing this offseason with the Calves? No?
Speaker 2: Is it on the board. I think it's on the board.
Speaker 2: And more importantly, is Lebron reminding the Lakers guys, I
Speaker 2: can do anything I want this offseason. I can go
Speaker 2: play anywhere. There's gonna be the Olympics, which you know,
Speaker 2: guys get together and talk. And I want to see,
Speaker 2: after we stood pat at this trade deadline, what the
Speaker 2: Lakers do this offseason in order to actually become championship level.
Speaker 2: And if they don't do anything this offseason to significantly
Speaker 2: upgrade the roster, all have some options. I'm also very
Speaker 2: interested if this is the last NBA playoff game. Lebron
Speaker 2: goes too. It might be, but he also I think
Speaker 2: the Lakers wouldn't love seeing him court sided a MAVs game,
Speaker 2: tapping up Kyrie afterwards. I don't think they'd love seeing
Speaker 2: him court sided a Knicks game at the Mecca. So
Speaker 2: it is just this was not nothing, and this was
Speaker 2: not unintentional, and it was finally, Demonde, something interesting has
Speaker 2: come out of Celtics Cavs or this entire Celtics playoff run,
Speaker 2: which is just other teams star players getting injured and
Speaker 2: the Celtics having the greatest cake walk to an NBA
Speaker 2: Finals in league history. By the way, shout out Jason
Speaker 2: Jamis played well the last couple games before we move
Speaker 2: on to the MAVs. Did you want to say something here?
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean it was supposed to be a
Speaker 4: short show, and you spent like six or seven minutes
Speaker 4: somewhat missed.
Speaker 2: So that that was just my own in my own
Speaker 2: insertion to the show. Now we'll get to Thunder, MAVs
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it looked like the Mavericks were going to
Speaker 4: take a commanding lead against the Thunder three to one,
Speaker 4: but the Thunder one on a nine or were on
Speaker 4: late and Dallas couldn't hit their free throws.
Speaker 3: That nine over run was led by.
Speaker 4: Shay So you called it in a tweet the type
Speaker 4: of loss that you can't get any sleep after. So
Speaker 4: after a sleepless night, how do you expect Dallas and
Speaker 4: especially Luke and Kyrie to respond in this next game?
Speaker 2: Listen, I think that I still think the MAVs are
Speaker 2: going to win this series. But they could have won
Speaker 2: it last night. They could have ended it last night.
Speaker 2: There was no real they were infirm control of that
Speaker 2: game despite Luke and Kyrie neither playing well or efficiently night.
Speaker 2: I mean they Luke and Kyrie combined had combined for
Speaker 2: twenty five points with four minutes left, and the MAVs
Speaker 2: were up six or were up five at the time.
Speaker 2: Like despite that they were in control of this game,
Speaker 2: they were gonna steal one, basically leading wire to wire
Speaker 2: despite their two best guys not playing great because PJ.
Speaker 2: Washington is still a flame thrower, and Jalen Williams for
Speaker 2: the Thunder was having a brutal game and Josh Giddy
Speaker 2: continues to be unplayable. All of these things working in
Speaker 2: the MAVs favor to go up three to one and
Speaker 2: send the Baby Thunder home, and instead Kyrie never got
Speaker 2: it going, Luca continued his struggles and Shay was phenomenal
Speaker 2: once again. So I don't want to just make this
Speaker 2: about what the MAVs didn't do. I do want to
Speaker 2: give the Thunder credit because Shay, who I had third
Speaker 2: in MVP this year, he finished second, and the guy
Speaker 2: who I had at one of the guys I had
Speaker 2: ahead of him, Luca Shay continued to be the best
Speaker 2: player in this series. He has been the consistent driving
Speaker 2: force for the Thunder not only all year but all postseason,
Speaker 2: and in this series in particular, he's given you twenty nine,
Speaker 2: thirty three, thirty one, and thirty four. In his first
Speaker 2: conference semifinals of his young career, he went twenty nine,
Speaker 2: nine and nine, thirty three, twelve and eight, thirty one,
Speaker 2: ten and six, and now thirty four, eight and five.
Speaker 2: And it's how one becomes a superstar in a game
Speaker 2: where a lot of his teammates, Flatley didn't have it.
Speaker 2: Jayleen Williams five of nineteen, Dort four of fourteen. The bench,
Speaker 2: aside from Cason Wallace, gave them nothing and Shay wouldn't
Speaker 2: let him lose and kept him connected throughout, so credit
Speaker 2: to him. Now, Kyriees had an odd series because Game
Speaker 2: two he only had nine points, but I thought played exceptionally.
Speaker 2: Game three he was solid, and then yesterday was one
Speaker 2: of the worst Kyrie playoff games I can remember. And
Speaker 2: he has, particularly his time in Boston, had some bad ones,
Speaker 2: but he just wasn't there. And then there's Luca, my guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: obviously Luca's banged up, but he's playing and it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be an excuse. And I understand that Luca, it's just
Speaker 2: his nature to always be yelling at the refs. I
Speaker 2: think it has. He has become a distraction to himself.
Speaker 2: Almost every single play he's he's yelling at the refs
Speaker 2: every and when Luca's playing well and flame throwing and
Speaker 2: doing everything a He's still yelling at the refs a lot,
Speaker 2: but not quite as much as this. But it seems
Speaker 2: to and maybe this is just confirmation bias. It seems
Speaker 2: to get him going like he feels like it's, you know,
Speaker 2: the whole world's against me. I'm going to show him
Speaker 2: right now with him struggling, it seems to be pulling
Speaker 2: him down a bit that he feels like that everything's
Speaker 2: working against me and the refs are against me, and
Speaker 2: his play can't pull him out of it. And so
Speaker 2: I think that he is the best I believe he's
Speaker 2: the best player in the series. He hasn't been Shay
Speaker 2: has been. He is definitely the best player on his team.
Speaker 2: And there's only one other star on this team and
Speaker 2: right now, he's got to pull himself out of it. Now.
Speaker 2: We have seen him do that plenty of times. We
Speaker 2: saw him do that against the Suns. We saw him
Speaker 2: do that in the series against the Clippers, even when
Speaker 2: they lost two to two. Is a fine spot for
Speaker 2: the MAVs to be in. It feels like they squandered
Speaker 2: it because they had three to one sitting in front
Speaker 2: of him. But Luca's got to be better. Flatly, he
Speaker 2: can't hit a shot to save his life, and he's
Speaker 2: letting thee what he feels is unfair officiating affect him.
Speaker 2: So he's got to be better.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, and Kyrie like also have a like a
Speaker 4: spotty playoff history outside of Lebron, am I.
Speaker 2: Well, oh no, I mean it's he has a nonexistent
Speaker 2: playoff resume. Outside of playing with the Cavs really and
Speaker 2: and I mean he so in Boston, he was brutal
Speaker 2: in their series against Milwaukee when after winning the first game,
Speaker 2: they lost four straight games. He was I can tell
Speaker 2: you in those games he averaged less than twenty points
Speaker 2: and shot thirty percent from the field and nineteen percent
Speaker 2: from three uh. And then the next year he was
Speaker 2: with Brooklyn and he was good in those playoffs, but
Speaker 2: then he got hurt. So it's really it's one series
Speaker 2: in particular, that series against Milwaukee where he was brutal.
Speaker 2: Aside from that, he's actual. You know, he never made
Speaker 2: the playoffs in Cleveland before Lebron. With Lebron, he was
Speaker 2: awesome in Boston. He the other thing that kind.
Speaker 4: Of because like you're saying, Luca's gotta like be better,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, even if he is better facing this team
Speaker 4: that's pretty galvanized and plays well together, if I think
Speaker 4: it's unlike a few teams that lucas seen before.
Speaker 3: So Kyrie step it up.
Speaker 2: But I love how Kyrie has played this entire postseason
Speaker 2: until last night, is I guess the point I'm making.
Speaker 2: I think he's been very good this postseason, and I
Speaker 2: think he's been, you know, a distributor in the first
Speaker 2: half of games, then tried to score more in the
Speaker 2: second half of games. Again, it looks weird because in
Speaker 2: their Game two win, he only had nine points, but
Speaker 2: he only took eight shots and he had eleven assists.
Speaker 2: And I was he's actually really trying on defense. You know,
Speaker 2: I've been very critical of Kyrie in the past. I
Speaker 2: think he's been excellent all year and excellent these playoffs.
Speaker 2: Last night was an outlier. I Also the other thing
Speaker 2: is the MAVs gotta hit their free throws that I
Speaker 2: didn't even mention it. Luca with ten seconds, yeah, and
Speaker 2: Luca with ten seconds left got fouled down to and
Speaker 2: missed the first one, and otherwise they go to overtime,
Speaker 2: potentially go to overtime. Obviously, okay, s would have a
Speaker 2: chance to win it. So I still think Dallas can
Speaker 2: win the series. But man gets harder and now they
Speaker 2: they could have won the series last night. All right,
Speaker 2: this is something else you want to say. You want
Speaker 2: to move on to Denver.
Speaker 3: Can't be going fifty with that many free throws taken?
Speaker 2: No, I mean in a one possession game, and okay,
Speaker 2: see missed one. Okay, see it was nineteen of twenty
Speaker 2: or seventeen of eighteen, something like that. All right, let's
Speaker 2: go to Nuggets Timberwolves, which I'm going to stop you
Speaker 2: repeatedly read this question verbatim because I don't know who
Speaker 2: wrote it. I have a feeling who wrote it, but
Speaker 2: I have some questions about the writing of this question.
Speaker 2: That is, either you're either gonna have to answer for
Speaker 2: or the productor answer for. But we can go ahead.
Speaker 3: Something about that this morning. That's so so hilarious.
Speaker 4: All right, so then I could sign up the series
Speaker 4: two to two on the road after you dug their
Speaker 4: grave last week?
Speaker 3: Who could have guessed you would have ended up being
Speaker 3: wrong about Joki?
Speaker 2: All right, all right, stop hold on before I get
Speaker 2: to it. I'll open it up to the production room,
Speaker 2: probably Daniel, who wrote this? What was I wrong about?
Speaker 2: I just want to know? Just tell me. We were
Speaker 2: all here together, I'm on TV, I'm on the pod.
Speaker 2: What tell me? I'm very curious. I want to own
Speaker 2: up for my mistakes. What did I what? Thus far
Speaker 2: in this series? Have I been wrong about anyone? I
Speaker 2: want to know?
Speaker 4: Maybe I think where Daniel's going with it as probably
Speaker 4: you were icking him out of that conversation of like
Speaker 4: all time great all greatness.
Speaker 3: Two games was all it took to forget about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, so again, and this is why. And I know
Speaker 2: that it's very busy in that production room and there's
Speaker 2: a lot going on, but it is very important to
Speaker 2: listen to the things that are set on the show,
Speaker 2: particularly if you're then going to ask about them afterwards.
Speaker 2: After two games, I laid out very clearly what was
Speaker 2: on the line for Jokic. After two games. I laid
Speaker 2: out very clearly that if he were to be swept
Speaker 2: there with the full list of the last forty years MVPs,
Speaker 2: to be swept would be Magic Johnson in the finals
Speaker 2: when he got hurt, Jokicic two years ago, Jokic this year.
Speaker 2: That would not be great. I laid out the fact
Speaker 2: that there he is already of the guys who the
Speaker 2: season they won MVP that is the shortest playoff runs.
Speaker 2: Two of the seven shortest are already Yokages, including these shortest.
Speaker 2: Uh just making it five games into the playoffs, he
Speaker 2: was potentially going to be three of the eight shortest.
Speaker 2: I laid all those things out as what was on
Speaker 2: the line and why it was so important that he
Speaker 2: and the Nuggets respond in those two games in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I don't think maybe I'm wrong, but I'm very, very
Speaker 2: judicious with my words. I don't think I ever said
Speaker 2: Nuggets are finished, they got no shot. I don't think I.
Speaker 3: Ever you're delivered as if it was like done data.
Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of like, you know.
Speaker 2: Well it was there. What there were here is the
Speaker 2: thing that I think some let me call it younger
Speaker 2: NBA fan and don't yet fully understand, but will as
Speaker 2: they watch more playoff runs, the playoff games and form
Speaker 2: our opinions of these players in a significant way. And
Speaker 2: how strong your title defense is informs our opinion of
Speaker 2: that team historically, those players and the previous title. All
Speaker 2: of it matters. And now, did I see some people
Speaker 2: going too far throwing out the Nuggets haven't beaten a
Speaker 2: fifty win team thing? I saw that on social media.
Speaker 2: I didn't engage in that because I think last year's
Speaker 2: Nuggets team was an exceptional team. And even if the
Speaker 2: Celtics hadn't you know, fallen apart against Miami, they would
Speaker 2: have then beaten the Celtics in the finals and they
Speaker 2: would have beaten a fifty win team. I didn't write
Speaker 2: anybody off. I did, however, have the weird standard of
Speaker 2: my defending champion best player alive, three time MVP. If
Speaker 2: he gets rocked in round two by a twenty two
Speaker 2: year old, it goes on the ledger. Now, this is
Speaker 2: the most This is the reason the postseason is so great,
Speaker 2: and this is the reason why these games matter more
Speaker 2: than thirty game samples of the regular season, because the
Speaker 2: truly great players then respond. And that's what Game four was.
Speaker 2: Game three. It would have been legitimately shocking if the
Speaker 2: Nuggets had rolled over in Game three. You have a
Speaker 2: natural inclination where Minnesota is going to relax, Denver is
Speaker 2: playing for its whole life. They also get a lifeline
Speaker 2: because Murray's not so spended. Denver's supposed to win Game three.
Speaker 2: But then there's Game four, where both teams are somewhat
Speaker 2: equally desperate, where Anthony Edwards answered the bell and Jim
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray was fine but not great. MBJ was not great.
Speaker 2: I know Aaron Gordon couldn't miss. But the reason the
Speaker 2: Nuggets won Game four was because Nikola Jokic said, we're
Speaker 2: not f and losing. And that is the type of
Speaker 2: performance that a great player has. That is the type
Speaker 2: of performance that you need to see if you are
Speaker 2: going to evaluate basketball players the way they've always been evaluated.
Speaker 2: Rather than be like, hey, guys, look at this, vorp
Speaker 2: by being like, hey, back against the wall, uncomfortable circumstances,
Speaker 2: knowing they're gonna come for you if you don't respond,
Speaker 2: says you know what, I don't really like shooting the
Speaker 2: ball twenty five times, but I'm gonna do it because
Speaker 2: it's what today calls for. That was great and because
Speaker 2: of that game for performance, and because now this series
Speaker 2: is going at least six, Jokic fairly inoculated himself from
Speaker 2: any super harsh criticism if they do lose this series
Speaker 2: because he made it a fight. But after two games,
Speaker 2: that harsh criticism not only would have been in bounds,
Speaker 2: would have been part and parcel with how we've done things.
Speaker 2: I'll give you another four instances. Yannis in his title
Speaker 2: defense in round two. What did he do? He lost
Speaker 2: that series? But game six, Round two, Yannis after being
Speaker 2: excellent that entire series. By the way, Yanna's had a
Speaker 2: forty four twenty and six. Now they lost anyway, But
Speaker 2: Yannis doesn't get dinged for that series because he was excellent.
Speaker 2: He kept him alive, he put up a fight. Now
Speaker 2: he gets dinged for the next two years, going out
Speaker 2: in round one or I mean this year he missed
Speaker 2: the playoffs because he's hurt, but it's get in. Last
Speaker 2: year he was hurt a little bit too, but he
Speaker 2: gets dinged. That's how it works. And so going into
Speaker 2: this series, I did something I've never done on TV.
Speaker 2: I refuse to make a pick. I just kind of
Speaker 2: I just I let the audience decide which way I
Speaker 2: was leaning. But Wild was all in on the Nuggets,
Speaker 2: Brew was all in on the Timberwolves. I felt this
Speaker 2: was a coin flip series. Right now, I still feel
Speaker 2: it's a coin flip series. And I am really intrigued
Speaker 2: by how Carl Anthony Townshend Rudy Gobert respond tonight, because
Speaker 2: now that pressure flips where if you're Rudy Gobert and
Speaker 2: the only knock on you forever has been your postseason performance,
Speaker 2: right uh, and all of a sudden, it looks like
Speaker 2: the team you're on could win the championship. But if
Speaker 2: they end up losing in six and the last game
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves won all year was a game he wasn't
Speaker 2: at and where they looked better than they've ever looked.
Speaker 2: Those questions are coming back in full force. And Carl
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns, who people have said, you know how much
Speaker 2: of a winner, good stats, bad team guy is he?
Speaker 2: He needs to respond in full force. Uh So I'm
Speaker 2: super excited for tonight.
Speaker 3: I do thay splitting them up going one in one,
Speaker 3: just having them in a starting and then bench in
Speaker 3: the second the second five.
Speaker 2: So I mean you say that, But the thing is this,
Speaker 2: that's to me a little reactionary. Theo's are the number
Speaker 2: one defense in all of basketball. They looked great in
Speaker 2: game one playing together I and they have too money
Speaker 2: resources associated with those guys two in order, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: to do that to not.
Speaker 3: Play them right.
Speaker 2: And if you do them, if you stagger them, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to play them enough minutes. What
Speaker 2: the But what they need is Karl Anthony Towns to
Speaker 2: be better. That's what they need. I do think the
Speaker 2: Timberwolves win tonight. So now, but let's keep going because
Speaker 2: this is there are more questions I have about the questions,
Speaker 2: So go ahead.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Minnesota obviously has to go to Denver and
Speaker 4: win on the night.
Speaker 3: That Jokic gets his MVP trophy.
Speaker 4: So when pedigree is the number one thing that you
Speaker 4: care about, why did it not matter in this series?
Speaker 2: So what does that even mean? I saw this question.
Speaker 2: I don't don't even know what the question means. When
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 4: I think it's like they got those championship red players,
Speaker 4: they're coming off of the the NBA title, when they
Speaker 4: end up playing some kids that have never gotten close
Speaker 4: to that, and you were just like, oh, they got
Speaker 4: you know, the Nuggets are in shouble instead of being like, oh,
Speaker 4: Denver has the pedigree and like they'll take over and win.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, But so then again, this is where I
Speaker 2: think people are assigning me opinions that I did not
Speaker 2: assign myself.
Speaker 3: That might not have been what was, but I thought.
Speaker 2: The So I think I think you probably read it correctly.
Speaker 2: I if again, any team in league history that loses
Speaker 2: its first two games at home, the second one getting
Speaker 2: run out of the gym, when the other teams, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, four time Defensive Player of the Year is
Speaker 2: not there, there would be real questions about real concerns
Speaker 2: about now The reason I did not write the Nuggets
Speaker 2: off was exactly because of that pedigree, because you can't
Speaker 2: say they're dead. Now. Did I think they were? Did
Speaker 2: I in Vegas think that they were in really bad shape?
Speaker 2: Of course, at any point did I say the series
Speaker 2: was over? No, the and it was weird the reaction
Speaker 2: that people do overreact to individual NBA playoff games. Bill Simmons,
Speaker 2: who has been driving the Jokicchen Nuggets train for quite
Speaker 2: some time, did a whole thirty minutes after Game two
Speaker 2: about how the league's about to change and Denver is
Speaker 2: getting swept now that folks for like were not as bothered.
Speaker 2: I think by that opinion because he has been such
Speaker 2: a Yokich proponent. But every time your team wins a
Speaker 2: playoff game, it feels like, well, who could ever beat them?
Speaker 2: And every time your team loses a playoff game, it
Speaker 2: feels like the sky is falling. I think that there
Speaker 2: has now been a massive overreaction in the other direction,
Speaker 2: which is people are now I think writing off the
Speaker 2: Timberwolves far too quickly. I still think this is a
Speaker 2: coin flip series. And I also think that Denver right
Speaker 2: now unequivocally looks more vulnerable than they did last season,
Speaker 2: whether it's in this round or the next round or
Speaker 2: in the finals against Boston. With that said, go ahead, Demanse.
Speaker 3: I love how you're just putting us putting us there.
Speaker 2: But we got you guys, I mean the I mean
Speaker 2: you guys are you guys are about to have the
Speaker 2: easiest path to any and so I I do not
Speaker 2: I do not feel the Nuggets are inevitable. I also
Speaker 2: feel like with Jokich's performance the last two games, he
Speaker 2: did remind people that he is going to be the
Speaker 2: best player in any series they play, and that's hard
Speaker 2: to overcome. Now, the sneaky thing about Denver and their
Speaker 2: chances is this, Jamal has not been good this entire postseason.
Speaker 2: Game three was his best performance other than Game five
Speaker 2: against the Lakers. Game three he had the three they
Speaker 2: were off Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then Game four on Sunday
Speaker 2: he was mediocre once again, and if not for that
Speaker 2: fifty five footer, his stat line really doesn't look good
Speaker 2: at all. How good is Jamal Murray going to look
Speaker 2: on another back, you know, one day between games? That
Speaker 2: to me is a massive question mark, because I know
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is gonna be ready, and I've gotta think
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns and the and Rudy Gobert are going
Speaker 2: to show some pride tonight and step up. So I
Speaker 2: think this is I think this goes to a Game
Speaker 2: seven with zero home games one by either team going
Speaker 2: into Game seven. I think Minnesota wins tonight and Denver
Speaker 2: wins in Game six, and then we get a classic
Speaker 2: Game seven. Go ahead and ask the follow up demons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when we're talking about the Nuggets, is the
Speaker 4: time to start saying never a doubt. It's hard not
Speaker 4: to notice the Mahomes Chiefs parallels.
Speaker 2: So yeah. So again, this is the third different little
Speaker 2: mini question within this question that I think is utterly ludicrous.
Speaker 2: So there's right now, there's no parallels. If they win
Speaker 2: the championship this year, then we can start discussing if
Speaker 2: there are some parallels. But the Chiefs going into this
Speaker 2: season had been to five consecutive Final fours, three championship
Speaker 2: games in the last four years, and had won two titles.
Speaker 2: Going into this year. They've now been to six consecutive
Speaker 2: championship games, four of the last five Super Bowls, and
Speaker 2: won three of the last five Super Bowls, that's what
Speaker 2: and their star player is in consideration, considered by many
Speaker 2: to be the best player in the history of his sport.
Speaker 2: Uh one time? Say it again?
Speaker 4: I do hear people saying that is like on his
Speaker 4: way to be.
Speaker 2: Who said that that Jogic is on his way to
Speaker 2: being the best player ever?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not like ok what I've had a
Speaker 4: conversation with wild or Brew, but like people that I
Speaker 4: talked to.
Speaker 2: You know, oh, okay, I think Demanse, I gotta be
Speaker 2: honest with you. I think you're making that up. I
Speaker 2: don't think you've ever had a conversation where someone says,
Speaker 2: I think Nikola Jokic is on his way to being
Speaker 2: the goat. I don't think anyone's ever said that to you.
Speaker 2: I think you're making that up. And if they have
Speaker 2: said it to you, I want to know who they are.
Speaker 2: You just give me a first name, because I don't
Speaker 2: think I think that. I think that people say he
Speaker 2: could end up top ten. I think people say he
Speaker 2: could end up the best international player ever I have.
Speaker 2: I'm yet to hear the jokicch is gonna be end
Speaker 2: up better than Jordan and Lebron. I haven't heard that take.
Speaker 2: Maybe it exists. If it does exist, all the more
Speaker 2: reason to where I've been holding him to a fair standard.
Speaker 2: But back to the point, this is where we have
Speaker 2: to pump the brakes a bit. We have the the
Speaker 2: right now this moment, the Nuggets are on the exact
Speaker 2: trajectory of the Milwaukee Bucks. Two time MVP versus three
Speaker 2: time MVP. I get it, who won the championship the
Speaker 2: year before, and then we're in an absolute round two
Speaker 2: dog fight that they lost. That's the trajectory. And I
Speaker 2: don't think the Bucks will ever be like Ah, they're
Speaker 2: the chiefs of the NBA. We haven't had the Chiefs
Speaker 2: of the The last time we had a Chiefs of
Speaker 2: the NBA, it was the Warriors with Steph and Clay
Speaker 2: and Durant and Draymond. That's a similar arc. Three titles
Speaker 2: in four years. They want a back to back. They
Speaker 2: lost the finals. That's the arc. So let's let's show
Speaker 2: some respect to the never a doubt Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Now we can move on to the Knicks.
Speaker 3: All right, ellis those heavy stuff? All right? The Knicks
Speaker 3: are hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 4: After a couple of injuries in that Pacer series, we
Speaker 4: all love the next because of how hard they play.
Speaker 4: Having said that, damn near their entire team is injured.
Speaker 4: But is the thing that makes them so enjoyable they're unraveling?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yes, yes, and no, I mean it.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I respect what Tibbs does and I
Speaker 2: love watching the Knicks, but there is It's not as
Speaker 2: if no other coach has ever thought of, why don't
Speaker 2: I just play my best players all the game? There's
Speaker 2: a reason they don't do it, like there is a
Speaker 2: reason that yes, every the Nuggets would be better if
Speaker 2: Jokic could play all forty eight, and the Thunder would
Speaker 2: be better if Shaye played all forty eight. The reason
Speaker 2: they don't is because it's not sustainable, and that og,
Speaker 2: who's already been injury prone, having a soft tissue injury
Speaker 2: is wild to begin with, and or not wild, but
Speaker 2: somewhat predictable to begin with. And now I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 2: I think the Knicks are still gonna win this series.
Speaker 2: I think they are going to find a way. I
Speaker 2: think they are going tonight the Garden is going to
Speaker 2: be absolutely insane, and I think they're gonna win this series. However,
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be ground to dust by the
Speaker 2: time they get to the Celtics in the conference finals.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Caitlin Clark will have her professional debut tonight
Speaker 4: for the Indiana Fever. She's such a draw that they've
Speaker 4: got to play in bigger stadiums to get the crowd
Speaker 4: to fit inside. Will this hype train keep its stream
Speaker 4: throughout the season and into the future.
Speaker 2: If she's awesome? Yeah, If she struggles a bit, then
Speaker 2: it'll die down until she's awesome again. But she's superstar,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't really matter the sport, and it doesn't
Speaker 2: really matter the gender. If you are a superstar, if
Speaker 2: you have that quality, people are gonna follow you. And
Speaker 2: there is also good momentum with the timing of the
Speaker 2: WNBA season, not only being so shortly after the March madness,
Speaker 2: but also the fact that it's going to be really
Speaker 2: getting in the meat of the WNBA season when we
Speaker 2: hit this sports desert, post NBA Finals, pre football, So
Speaker 2: all that works in their favor. All right, Speaking of football,
Speaker 2: Chiefs Bengals Week two, we do that next quick break
Speaker 2: right back? What's right? All right? Welcome back in what's
Speaker 2: right with Nick? Right, demonse, Let's get to the B
Speaker 2: block Chiefs, Ravens and.
Speaker 4: Other Yeah, the chat and believe you'll finish in under
Speaker 4: forty five minutes. You got a ninety percent and nine percent. Yes,
Speaker 4: I don't know where that other one percent is, but
Speaker 4: uh yeah, I don't think you're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: So we got to roll through.
Speaker 2: These stop yamor and get to the question.
Speaker 4: Yo, so your Chiefs have a date with my Ravens
Speaker 4: in the NFL season opener this year. Then in week
Speaker 4: two reportedly get Burrow in the Bengals. A little dangerous
Speaker 4: to start with Lamar and.
Speaker 2: Burrow, right, I mean it's perfect, it's so.
Speaker 3: Most dangerous, it gets to be honest.
Speaker 2: Well, no, first of all, the next time Lamar plays
Speaker 2: well against the Chiefs will be the first time. And
Speaker 2: Mahomes the Mahomes has crushed the Ravens. That you lost
Speaker 2: one game against the Ravens, and I think the Chiefs
Speaker 2: scored thirty four points.
Speaker 3: The also recently was.
Speaker 4: That was that not last year during the regular season
Speaker 4: or was it the year before? Because I feel like
Speaker 4: I remember it.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, i'll tell you know what I'll give it
Speaker 2: to you right now, because it certainly wasn't last year
Speaker 2: in the playoffs that I know for sure. But Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes against Baltimore in his career it has gone like this.
Speaker 2: Let me find it. Twenty eighteen, Patrick's first year as
Speaker 2: a starter. Lamar had taken over the was Lamar hold on.
Speaker 2: Was Lamar the start was the starter for Baltimore in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. I think that was the year Lamar had Yeah,
Speaker 2: Lamar had just taken over Baltimore. I think it was
Speaker 2: the only game they lost after he took over. Mahomes
Speaker 2: threw for three seventy seven and a couple scores. The
Speaker 2: Chiefs won. The next time Mahomes played Baltimore was Week
Speaker 2: three of twenty nineteen, when Lamar was the league's unanimous MVP.
Speaker 2: Mahomes threw for three seventy four and three touchdowns and
Speaker 2: the Chiefs won. The next time they played Baltimore was
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, the Chiefs thirty four to twenty. Mahones threw
Speaker 2: for three eighty five and four touchdowns. The next time
Speaker 2: they played Baltimore was twenty twenty one, Week two. Baltimore
Speaker 2: won thirty six thirty five after going for too late.
Speaker 2: Mahones threw for three forty three and three touchdowns, and
Speaker 2: the next time the Chiefs played Baltimore was, of course,
Speaker 2: the conference championship game. Mahomes in his career against the
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens is four and one, and in the regular
Speaker 2: season he has twelve touchdowns, two picks, and a one
Speaker 2: twenty rating. If we would like to compare that to
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson in his career against the Chiefs, I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure it's the opponent he's had the least success with,
Speaker 2: which is why before the playoff game he said, and
Speaker 2: I quote, I don't like playing Patrick at all. Lamar
Speaker 2: has four touchdowns, two picks, a seventy nine rating, and
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty passing yards and then whatever he
Speaker 2: did playoff game as well. So I'm not worried about
Speaker 2: Baltimore in their new defensive coordinator who was born around
Speaker 2: the same year you were to Monsey in Week one,
Speaker 2: And if you're Cincinnati, you've got to be livid that
Speaker 2: your biggest game of the year, biggest game of the year,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs get extra rest for the Chiefs are on
Speaker 2: a mini by and since he is not what are
Speaker 2: you shaking your head about. Tell me, tell me, what
Speaker 2: can you think?
Speaker 4: You're looking at this the wrong way. They'll probably, I
Speaker 4: mean they'll be they'll be rested as well. Better to
Speaker 4: see them in week two than week sixteen when they
Speaker 4: are injuries. I think that it's a great it's a
Speaker 4: great chance for the Ravens. I'm not really Bengals, you
Speaker 4: got that that. I think it's a great chance for
Speaker 4: the Ravens to start their season off well by punching
Speaker 4: the team in the mouth that knocked them out of
Speaker 4: the playoffs last year.
Speaker 2: All right, sure, here's the flip side. What if the
Speaker 2: Chiefs beat them again? What if they're they have what
Speaker 2: if the Ravens the Ravens, it was their season, they
Speaker 2: the league MVP, they had home field, they had all
Speaker 2: of it. The Chiefs come into their building and beat them,
Speaker 2: and then the next football game they play, they have
Speaker 2: to stand on the sideline and watch the Chiefs hang
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl banner that they think was supposed to
Speaker 2: be theirs and the Chiefs beat them again. I don't
Speaker 2: know that could be problematic. And if you're Cincinnati, go yeah,
Speaker 2: well yeah, And if you're Cincinnati, you have always started
Speaker 2: seasons slowly under with Borough. The Bengals since drafting Borough
Speaker 2: in his rookie season, they didn't get their first win
Speaker 2: until Week four. In the second season, they started one
Speaker 2: and one. In his third season, they started oh to two.
Speaker 2: Last year they started oh to two. They always get
Speaker 2: out to slow starts. And now you have to go
Speaker 2: to Kansas City when the Chiefs are on extra rest
Speaker 2: and the yeah, the injuries thing, I understand what you're saying,
Speaker 2: but either team could be injured late in the year.
Speaker 2: You're more likely, obviously both teams be full strength at
Speaker 2: the beginning, and this game could decide tie breakers. So
Speaker 2: I love it for Kansas City. Get you knock off
Speaker 2: Baltimore and Cincinnati to start the year early on. And
Speaker 2: here's where Kansas City is in such a position of strength.
Speaker 2: If they win those games, it is going to feel
Speaker 2: like they are inevitable, and if they lose those games,
Speaker 2: they're not going to worry at all. On the flip side,
Speaker 2: for Baltimore and Cincinnati, those become must wins Baltimore because
Speaker 2: of how last season ended, because the Chiefs have had
Speaker 2: such success against them, and Cincinnati that would be three
Speaker 2: consecutive losses to the Chiefs for Cincinnati ever since that
Speaker 2: Burrowhead Invitational. Nonsense. All right, let's move on to the
Speaker 2: whatever game we're playing, which is right or wrong?
Speaker 3: So we're playing right wrong.
Speaker 4: H My Celtics went on three to one against the
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchellis Cavs team last night and they are now
Speaker 4: minus six fifty to win the East. Right or wrong,
Speaker 4: the Celtics are a lock for the finals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I've never seen a team
Speaker 2: more of a lock for the finals. I mean that,
Speaker 2: you know, Jimmy Butler round one, Jannison Embiid are injured
Speaker 2: and you don't have to play either one of them.
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell gets hurt in this round and next round
Speaker 2: you're gonna be playing either what's left of the Knicks
Speaker 2: or this Pacers team.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, like three just three shows ago.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, everybody's gonna be like that track for
Speaker 4: the Celtics, so easy if they end up winning the finals,
Speaker 4: and if they end up winning the finals, that is
Speaker 4: definitely what people are going to be saying.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, here's the thing, not if they
Speaker 2: win the title. If they win the title, no one
Speaker 2: will care. It'll only be if they don't win the
Speaker 2: title that people and people are like, oh, well, how
Speaker 2: you know they won? They made Here's the thing. If
Speaker 2: they don't win the title, some people will argue they
Speaker 2: need to make changes.
Speaker 3: Because they won't look at this.
Speaker 2: Right. And but normally, if you make the finals, you
Speaker 2: don't think you're super far away. But if they were
Speaker 2: to make the finals and get rocked, people will then say, well,
Speaker 2: I mean the East was a cakewalk.
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Yeah, what if they end up playing an
Speaker 3: injured team in the finals.
Speaker 2: Well, no again, if you win the championship, nobody cares.
Speaker 2: Honest to god, people don't remember this but steps first title.
Speaker 2: So if the the the I want to get it
Speaker 2: exactly right the team. So I've got to look because
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly the twenty fifteen playoffs demanse Round
Speaker 2: one they played New Orleans. Who was I think it
Speaker 2: was without Drew Holliday. I think he got Yeah, Drew
Speaker 2: Holliday got hurt. He was uh he barely played in
Speaker 2: that series. They get New Orleans and round one, round
Speaker 2: two they play Memphis. Memphis I think was without Mike Conley.
Speaker 2: I'm looking it up real quick. No Conley was there.
Speaker 2: I forget who Memphis was missing. I know they pissed
Speaker 2: because now Randolph was there. I don't remember that one
Speaker 2: round three they played Houston that had uh what was
Speaker 2: Houston's injury? I remember people showing it all the injuries
Speaker 2: that they every team was missing. Twenty fifteen their first title,
Speaker 2: and then obviously twenty and then in the finals it
Speaker 2: was no Kevin Love and Kyrie got hurt in Game one,
Speaker 2: but they but nobody cares, like I can't even remember
Speaker 2: who the people were. You just remember they won the championship. Now,
Speaker 2: if they don't win the championship and they look bad
Speaker 2: in the finals, that's a different story, all right.
Speaker 4: Next, the Atlanta Hawks won the draft lottery for the
Speaker 4: first time ever. Unfortunate happened in the worst draft in
Speaker 4: recent history. Is getting the number one pick after their offseason.
Speaker 4: Is getting the number one picked after their off or
Speaker 4: alter their offseason play?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 4: Yeah, right or wrong? Is still going to Holy crap,
Speaker 4: Go ahead, right around the Jays.
Speaker 3: They'll go to the Spurs.
Speaker 2: You're fine. I don't know that the Spurs are where
Speaker 2: Trey's gonna go. H I do think getting the number
Speaker 2: one pick gives them way more optionality where they can say,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna do a full reset, even
Speaker 2: though the number one pick in this year's draft does
Speaker 2: not seem obviously not as valuable as last year, but
Speaker 2: not even close to as valuable as two years ago
Speaker 2: with Polo, But I do think it gives them they
Speaker 2: can sell hope with via the number one pick.
Speaker 4: All right, next, Brownie passes medical and is reportedly likely
Speaker 4: to stay in the NBA draft pool. He impressed in
Speaker 4: the draft combine drills, but measured it much shorter than
Speaker 4: he was listed at USC. Right or wrong, you already
Speaker 4: know who will draft Ronnie, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I do think his performance at the combine changed some
Speaker 2: things where I think teams will look at him as
Speaker 2: higher upside than they had previously thought because of his strength,
Speaker 2: because of his wingspan, and if he can become the
Speaker 2: three and D, and people had real questions about the
Speaker 2: three point part of it. But him finishing second in
Speaker 2: that movement shooting drill, which is also a conditioning drill
Speaker 2: because you've got to not be exhausted. I think that
Speaker 2: raised some eyebrows, like yesterday couldn't have gone better for him,
Speaker 2: and explains a little bit why people thought he might
Speaker 2: be a first rounder before his year at USC and
Speaker 2: it is not. It is totally only fair to mention
Speaker 2: when you're discussing how you know, underwhelming his freshman season went,
Speaker 2: that the guy had cardiac arrest shortly before the season
Speaker 2: started and they didn't even know if he was going
Speaker 2: to be cleared to play, and how much did that
Speaker 2: throw off any of his regular, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: progression or schedule. Now, I do think most likely the
Speaker 2: Lakers draft him, and you know, he's in their developmental league,
Speaker 2: and that's most likely. But I don't think I think
Speaker 2: that there's more optionality for Bronnie, particularly after yesterday.
Speaker 3: All right, next, the Lions are all in on this court. Now.
Speaker 4: They've locked up Golf on a four year, two hundred
Speaker 4: and twelve million dollars contract, well one hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: million guaranteed, right or wrong, in Jared Goff's contract is
Speaker 4: worse than Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: It's not worse than Daniel Jones' is because Jared Golf
Speaker 2: can play a little bit. If you keep him up
Speaker 2: right and he doesn't get pressured, he's good. I don't
Speaker 2: think this is a good contract, though it's not worse
Speaker 2: than Daniel Jones' is but I wouldn't have done it,
Speaker 2: and everyone said, oh, you have to rewarding me, you
Speaker 2: have to do those things. I don't know that you did.
Speaker 2: And I certainly think fifty three million a year for
Speaker 2: Jared Goff is rich. I'll tell you this much. Trevor Lawrence, Tua,
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, Dak Prescott all saw this deal and were
Speaker 2: absolutely thrilled because all of those guys are going to
Speaker 2: ask for considerably more than Jared Goff. They just are.
Speaker 2: You can say that's unfair, you can say they haven't
Speaker 2: been to a super Bowl. All that's true. They're all
Speaker 2: gonna ask for more than Jared Goff. All right, last one.
Speaker 4: The NFL schedule releases tomorrow, so there isn't a ton
Speaker 4: to talk about now besides the anticipation.
Speaker 3: Every year NFL teams.
Speaker 4: Every every year NFL team social media pages go all
Speaker 4: out for their schedule releases, and everybody loves them, everybody right,
Speaker 4: right or wrong.
Speaker 3: Nick likes fun.
Speaker 2: I think it's fine. I don't like. I don't I
Speaker 2: am not against it. I mean I won't watch any
Speaker 2: of the page I guess.
Speaker 4: Was doing like each week of them playing each team
Speaker 4: like it had like their mascot or.
Speaker 3: Like something destroying that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they all try to do something unique. The
Speaker 2: Chargers social media team tends to do the best, but
Speaker 2: they all try to. Some do video games, some do
Speaker 2: like you were, like you were saying something involving actual animals.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure it'll be fun. It's good fun.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything against it. I just it's not
Speaker 2: really that Jason. It's just not for me. But I'm
Speaker 2: almost forty like it. I'm not the audience they're going for.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I don't judge it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just not social media for the Chargers.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Quick break answer some listener questions. Next,
Speaker 2: what's right? All right? Well, demon say I didn't hit
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen, but I think I can hit eleven, so
Speaker 2: I'm all right with it. Let's answer some listener questions.
Speaker 4: Seeden Walder says, Hey, I just want to say thank
Speaker 4: you to Nick and his team. This is the best
Speaker 4: time of the week. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, that is super nice of you. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: appreciate that, Seaton and I hate that this is I
Speaker 2: guess maybe the wrong time to then mention this, So
Speaker 2: I apologize, but no show Thursday.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: I have a prior I have something that I have
Speaker 2: to do on Thursday, and I don't I have a
Speaker 2: surprise also for Demansey Shade's pulling up. I don't want
Speaker 2: to reveal it this moment, but I can't do that.
Speaker 2: We're not going to do the show Thursday, so we'll
Speaker 2: be back on Tuesday. All right, Let's go to the
Speaker 2: next question.
Speaker 4: Bradley Hammond asked listener question, golf gets paid the Prince
Speaker 4: Dak too a party? Love all come and do soon enough?
Speaker 4: Are you finally going to see the quarterback contracts level
Speaker 4: off or will golf be a cheap deal a year
Speaker 4: from now?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I think golf will be cheap. Adjacent like
Speaker 2: I think Dak's gonna get sixty plus million. I think that.
Speaker 2: I think the I think the prints and TUA will
Speaker 2: be around Golf's number fifty three to fifty five ish perty.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, and I don't know how Jordan
Speaker 2: Loves contract's gonna work out, all right.
Speaker 4: Next, Joey Kantra asked what amendment would you make to
Speaker 4: the rules in the NBA in the NFL if you
Speaker 4: were allowed to change one in each sport.
Speaker 2: Draft or playoff opponent. That's the one change I would
Speaker 2: make across the board. It'd be unbelievable drama, it'd be
Speaker 2: great television. It would also reward regular season excellence.
Speaker 4: Next, Jack Sullivan asked Nick, what percentage of the time
Speaker 4: should you draft for need versus draft best player available?
Speaker 3: Is it different for the NFL and NBA?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's wildly different for the NFL. In the NBA,
Speaker 2: the NBA, you should one hundred percent of the time
Speaker 2: draft the best player. You should be totally, positionally agnostic.
Speaker 2: Whoever the best player is, that is who you should draft.
Speaker 2: That's not even a question. The NFL, it's far more complicated. Uh,
Speaker 2: you are, if you need a quarterback, it makes sense
Speaker 2: to reach and take, you know, on a lottery ticket.
Speaker 2: Be like, even if you only think you have a
Speaker 2: ten percent chance of hitting. If you if the best
Speaker 2: player available on your board is a position you're stacked at,
Speaker 2: or a position to blow value running back, tight end,
Speaker 2: and there's a you have a huge position of need
Speaker 2: that's a key position like tackle, you can reach on that.
Speaker 2: So it's just totally totally different.
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, Jeff Jeff Carter asked Nick, do
Speaker 4: you think Caleb will be the second best quarterback in
Speaker 4: the NFL by the end of his rookie contract?
Speaker 2: The second best quarterback in the NFL by the end
Speaker 2: of his rookie contract? Yes, I do, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: I think that Caleb will be. I think he'll be
Speaker 2: a top five quarterback by the end of year two,
Speaker 2: and I think he'll be the second best quarterback in
Speaker 2: the league up at the end of his rookie contracts
Speaker 2: by the end of your five I absolutely do. All right,
Speaker 2: only ten minutes later and I said we were gonna
Speaker 2: do We got eleven twenty five. Pretty good. It's spent
Speaker 2: a little especially considering I did the the lebron Cavs thing,
Speaker 2: which wasn't even in the rundown. All right, I'm on
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