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Speaker 2: but first, here's what missed the cut not on today's show.

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Speaker 2: We have seen him do that plenty of times. We

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Speaker 4: Of because like you're saying, Luca's gotta like be better,

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Speaker 3: So Kyrie step it up.

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Speaker 2: But I love how Kyrie has played this entire postseason

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Speaker 2: against the Lakers. Game three he had the three they

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00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: were off Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Then Game four on Sunday

431
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: he was mediocre once again, and if not for that

432
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: fifty five footer, his stat line really doesn't look good

433
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: at all. How good is Jamal Murray going to look

434
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: on another back, you know, one day between games? That

435
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: to me is a massive question mark, because I know

436
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is gonna be ready, and I've gotta think

437
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns and the and Rudy Gobert are going

438
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: to show some pride tonight and step up. So I

439
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: think this is I think this goes to a Game

440
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: seven with zero home games one by either team going

441
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: into Game seven. I think Minnesota wins tonight and Denver

442
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: wins in Game six, and then we get a classic

443
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: Game seven. Go ahead and ask the follow up demons.

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00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when we're talking about the Nuggets, is the

445
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: time to start saying never a doubt. It's hard not

446
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: to notice the Mahomes Chiefs parallels.

447
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: So yeah. So again, this is the third different little

448
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: mini question within this question that I think is utterly ludicrous.

449
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: So there's right now, there's no parallels. If they win

450
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: the championship this year, then we can start discussing if

451
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: there are some parallels. But the Chiefs going into this

452
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: season had been to five consecutive Final fours, three championship

453
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: games in the last four years, and had won two titles.

454
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Going into this year. They've now been to six consecutive

455
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: championship games, four of the last five Super Bowls, and

456
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: won three of the last five Super Bowls, that's what

457
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: and their star player is in consideration, considered by many

458
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 2: to be the best player in the history of his sport.

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00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: Uh one time? Say it again?

460
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: I do hear people saying that is like on his

461
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: way to be.

462
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: Who said that that Jogic is on his way to

463
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: being the best player ever?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean not like ok what I've had a

465
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Speaker 4: conversation with wild or Brew, but like people that I

466
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: talked to.

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Speaker 2: You know, oh, okay, I think Demanse, I gotta be

468
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: honest with you. I think you're making that up. I

469
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: don't think you've ever had a conversation where someone says,

470
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: I think Nikola Jokic is on his way to being

471
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: the goat. I don't think anyone's ever said that to you.

472
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: I think you're making that up. And if they have

473
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: said it to you, I want to know who they are.

474
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: You just give me a first name, because I don't

475
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: think I think that. I think that people say he

476
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: could end up top ten. I think people say he

477
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: could end up the best international player ever I have.

478
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm yet to hear the jokicch is gonna be end

479
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: up better than Jordan and Lebron. I haven't heard that take.

480
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: Maybe it exists. If it does exist, all the more

481
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: reason to where I've been holding him to a fair standard.

482
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: But back to the point, this is where we have

483
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: to pump the brakes a bit. We have the the

484
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Speaker 2: right now this moment, the Nuggets are on the exact

485
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: trajectory of the Milwaukee Bucks. Two time MVP versus three

486
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: time MVP. I get it, who won the championship the

487
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: year before, and then we're in an absolute round two

488
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: dog fight that they lost. That's the trajectory. And I

489
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: don't think the Bucks will ever be like Ah, they're

490
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: the chiefs of the NBA. We haven't had the Chiefs

491
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: of the The last time we had a Chiefs of

492
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: the NBA, it was the Warriors with Steph and Clay

493
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: and Durant and Draymond. That's a similar arc. Three titles

494
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: in four years. They want a back to back. They

495
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: lost the finals. That's the arc. So let's let's show

496
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: some respect to the never a doubt Kansas City Chiefs.

497
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: Now we can move on to the Knicks.

498
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: All right, ellis those heavy stuff? All right? The Knicks

499
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: are hanging on by a thread.

500
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: After a couple of injuries in that Pacer series, we

501
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: all love the next because of how hard they play.

502
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: Having said that, damn near their entire team is injured.

503
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: But is the thing that makes them so enjoyable they're unraveling?

504
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yes, yes, and no, I mean it.

505
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I respect what Tibbs does and I

506
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: love watching the Knicks, but there is It's not as

507
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: if no other coach has ever thought of, why don't

508
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: I just play my best players all the game? There's

509
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: a reason they don't do it, like there is a

510
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: reason that yes, every the Nuggets would be better if

511
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Jokic could play all forty eight, and the Thunder would

512
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: be better if Shaye played all forty eight. The reason

513
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: they don't is because it's not sustainable, and that og,

514
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: who's already been injury prone, having a soft tissue injury

515
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: is wild to begin with, and or not wild, but

516
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: somewhat predictable to begin with. And now I'm gonna say this,

517
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: I think the Knicks are still gonna win this series.

518
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: I think they are going to find a way. I

519
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: think they are going tonight the Garden is going to

520
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: be absolutely insane, and I think they're gonna win this series. However,

521
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be ground to dust by the

522
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: time they get to the Celtics in the conference finals.

523
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to Caitlin Clark.

524
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Caitlin Clark will have her professional debut tonight

525
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: for the Indiana Fever. She's such a draw that they've

526
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: got to play in bigger stadiums to get the crowd

527
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: to fit inside. Will this hype train keep its stream

528
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: throughout the season and into the future.

529
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: If she's awesome? Yeah, If she struggles a bit, then

530
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: it'll die down until she's awesome again. But she's superstar,

531
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: and it doesn't really matter the sport, and it doesn't

532
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: really matter the gender. If you are a superstar, if

533
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: you have that quality, people are gonna follow you. And

534
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: there is also good momentum with the timing of the

535
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: WNBA season, not only being so shortly after the March madness,

536
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: but also the fact that it's going to be really

537
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: getting in the meat of the WNBA season when we

538
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: hit this sports desert, post NBA Finals, pre football, So

539
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: all that works in their favor. All right, Speaking of football,

540
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: Chiefs Bengals Week two, we do that next quick break

541
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: right back? What's right? All right? Welcome back in what's

542
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: right with Nick? Right, demonse, Let's get to the B

543
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: block Chiefs, Ravens and.

544
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: Other Yeah, the chat and believe you'll finish in under

545
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 4: forty five minutes. You got a ninety percent and nine percent. Yes,

546
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: I don't know where that other one percent is, but

547
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: uh yeah, I don't think you're gonna do it.

548
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: So we got to roll through.

549
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: These stop yamor and get to the question.

550
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: Yo, so your Chiefs have a date with my Ravens

551
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: in the NFL season opener this year. Then in week

552
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 4: two reportedly get Burrow in the Bengals. A little dangerous

553
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: to start with Lamar and.

554
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: Burrow, right, I mean it's perfect, it's so.

555
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Most dangerous, it gets to be honest.

556
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Well, no, first of all, the next time Lamar plays

557
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: well against the Chiefs will be the first time. And

558
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: Mahomes the Mahomes has crushed the Ravens. That you lost

559
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: one game against the Ravens, and I think the Chiefs

560
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: scored thirty four points.

561
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: The also recently was.

562
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: That was that not last year during the regular season

563
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: or was it the year before? Because I feel like

564
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: I remember it.

565
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: Okay, well, i'll tell you know what I'll give it

566
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: to you right now, because it certainly wasn't last year

567
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: in the playoffs that I know for sure. But Patrick

568
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: Mahomes against Baltimore in his career it has gone like this.

569
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: Let me find it. Twenty eighteen, Patrick's first year as

570
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: a starter. Lamar had taken over the was Lamar hold on.

571
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: Was Lamar the start was the starter for Baltimore in

572
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. I think that was the year Lamar had Yeah,

573
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: Lamar had just taken over Baltimore. I think it was

574
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: the only game they lost after he took over. Mahomes

575
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: threw for three seventy seven and a couple scores. The

576
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs won. The next time Mahomes played Baltimore was Week

577
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: three of twenty nineteen, when Lamar was the league's unanimous MVP.

578
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: Mahomes threw for three seventy four and three touchdowns and

579
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: the Chiefs won. The next time they played Baltimore was

580
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, the Chiefs thirty four to twenty. Mahones threw

581
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: for three eighty five and four touchdowns. The next time

582
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: they played Baltimore was twenty twenty one, Week two. Baltimore

583
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: won thirty six thirty five after going for too late.

584
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: Mahones threw for three forty three and three touchdowns, and

585
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: the next time the Chiefs played Baltimore was, of course,

586
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: the conference championship game. Mahomes in his career against the

587
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens is four and one, and in the regular

588
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: season he has twelve touchdowns, two picks, and a one

589
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: twenty rating. If we would like to compare that to

590
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson in his career against the Chiefs, I'm pretty

591
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: sure it's the opponent he's had the least success with,

592
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: which is why before the playoff game he said, and

593
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: I quote, I don't like playing Patrick at all. Lamar

594
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: has four touchdowns, two picks, a seventy nine rating, and

595
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty passing yards and then whatever he

596
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: did playoff game as well. So I'm not worried about

597
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: Baltimore in their new defensive coordinator who was born around

598
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 2: the same year you were to Monsey in Week one,

599
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: And if you're Cincinnati, you've got to be livid that

600
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: your biggest game of the year, biggest game of the year,

601
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs get extra rest for the Chiefs are on

602
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: a mini by and since he is not what are

603
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: you shaking your head about. Tell me, tell me, what

604
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: can you think?

605
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: You're looking at this the wrong way. They'll probably, I

606
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: mean they'll be they'll be rested as well. Better to

607
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: see them in week two than week sixteen when they

608
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: are injuries. I think that it's a great it's a

609
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: great chance for the Ravens. I'm not really Bengals, you

610
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 4: got that that. I think it's a great chance for

611
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: the Ravens to start their season off well by punching

612
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: the team in the mouth that knocked them out of

613
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: the playoffs last year.

614
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: All right, sure, here's the flip side. What if the

615
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: Chiefs beat them again? What if they're they have what

616
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: if the Ravens the Ravens, it was their season, they

617
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: the league MVP, they had home field, they had all

618
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: of it. The Chiefs come into their building and beat them,

619
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: and then the next football game they play, they have

620
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: to stand on the sideline and watch the Chiefs hang

621
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl banner that they think was supposed to

622
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: be theirs and the Chiefs beat them again. I don't

623
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: know that could be problematic. And if you're Cincinnati, go yeah,

624
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: well yeah, And if you're Cincinnati, you have always started

625
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: seasons slowly under with Borough. The Bengals since drafting Borough

626
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: in his rookie season, they didn't get their first win

627
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: until Week four. In the second season, they started one

628
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: and one. In his third season, they started oh to two.

629
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: Last year they started oh to two. They always get

630
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: out to slow starts. And now you have to go

631
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: to Kansas City when the Chiefs are on extra rest

632
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: and the yeah, the injuries thing, I understand what you're saying,

633
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: but either team could be injured late in the year.

634
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: You're more likely, obviously both teams be full strength at

635
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: the beginning, and this game could decide tie breakers. So

636
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: I love it for Kansas City. Get you knock off

637
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: Baltimore and Cincinnati to start the year early on. And

638
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: here's where Kansas City is in such a position of strength.

639
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: If they win those games, it is going to feel

640
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: like they are inevitable, and if they lose those games,

641
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: they're not going to worry at all. On the flip side,

642
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: for Baltimore and Cincinnati, those become must wins Baltimore because

643
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: of how last season ended, because the Chiefs have had

644
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: such success against them, and Cincinnati that would be three

645
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: consecutive losses to the Chiefs for Cincinnati ever since that

646
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: Burrowhead Invitational. Nonsense. All right, let's move on to the

647
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: whatever game we're playing, which is right or wrong?

648
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: So we're playing right wrong.

649
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: H My Celtics went on three to one against the

650
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchellis Cavs team last night and they are now

651
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: minus six fifty to win the East. Right or wrong,

652
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: the Celtics are a lock for the finals.

653
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta tell you, I've never seen a team

654
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: more of a lock for the finals. I mean that,

655
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: you know, Jimmy Butler round one, Jannison Embiid are injured

656
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: and you don't have to play either one of them.

657
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell gets hurt in this round and next round

658
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna be playing either what's left of the Knicks

659
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: or this Pacers team.

660
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: Go ahead, like three just three shows ago.

661
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, everybody's gonna be like that track for

662
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: the Celtics, so easy if they end up winning the finals,

663
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: and if they end up winning the finals, that is

664
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 4: definitely what people are going to be saying.

665
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, here's the thing, not if they

666
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: win the title. If they win the title, no one

667
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: will care. It'll only be if they don't win the

668
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: title that people and people are like, oh, well, how

669
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: you know they won? They made Here's the thing. If

670
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: they don't win the title, some people will argue they

671
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: need to make changes.

672
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: Because they won't look at this.

673
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: Right. And but normally, if you make the finals, you

674
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: don't think you're super far away. But if they were

675
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: to make the finals and get rocked, people will then say, well,

676
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean the East was a cakewalk.

677
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Yeah, what if they end up playing an

678
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: injured team in the finals.

679
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: Well, no again, if you win the championship, nobody cares.

680
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: Honest to god, people don't remember this but steps first title.

681
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: So if the the the I want to get it

682
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: exactly right the team. So I've got to look because

683
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly the twenty fifteen playoffs demanse Round

684
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: one they played New Orleans. Who was I think it

685
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: was without Drew Holliday. I think he got Yeah, Drew

686
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: Holliday got hurt. He was uh he barely played in

687
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: that series. They get New Orleans and round one, round

688
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: two they play Memphis. Memphis I think was without Mike Conley.

689
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm looking it up real quick. No Conley was there.

690
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: I forget who Memphis was missing. I know they pissed

691
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: because now Randolph was there. I don't remember that one

692
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: round three they played Houston that had uh what was

693
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: Houston's injury? I remember people showing it all the injuries

694
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: that they every team was missing. Twenty fifteen their first title,

695
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: and then obviously twenty and then in the finals it

696
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: was no Kevin Love and Kyrie got hurt in Game one,

697
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: but they but nobody cares, like I can't even remember

698
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: who the people were. You just remember they won the championship. Now,

699
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: if they don't win the championship and they look bad

700
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: in the finals, that's a different story, all right.

701
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: Next, the Atlanta Hawks won the draft lottery for the

702
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 4: first time ever. Unfortunate happened in the worst draft in

703
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 4: recent history. Is getting the number one pick after their offseason.

704
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: Is getting the number one picked after their off or

705
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 4: alter their offseason play?

706
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: Sorry?

707
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, right or wrong? Is still going to Holy crap,

708
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 4: Go ahead, right around the Jays.

709
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 3: They'll go to the Spurs.

710
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 2: You're fine. I don't know that the Spurs are where

711
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: Trey's gonna go. H I do think getting the number

712
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: one pick gives them way more optionality where they can say,

713
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna do a full reset, even

714
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: though the number one pick in this year's draft does

715
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: not seem obviously not as valuable as last year, but

716
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: not even close to as valuable as two years ago

717
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: with Polo, But I do think it gives them they

718
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: can sell hope with via the number one pick.

719
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: All right, next, Brownie passes medical and is reportedly likely

720
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: to stay in the NBA draft pool. He impressed in

721
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: the draft combine drills, but measured it much shorter than

722
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: he was listed at USC. Right or wrong, you already

723
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: know who will draft Ronnie, I don't know.

724
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: I do think his performance at the combine changed some

725
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: things where I think teams will look at him as

726
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: higher upside than they had previously thought because of his strength,

727
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: because of his wingspan, and if he can become the

728
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: three and D, and people had real questions about the

729
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: three point part of it. But him finishing second in

730
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: that movement shooting drill, which is also a conditioning drill

731
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: because you've got to not be exhausted. I think that

732
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: raised some eyebrows, like yesterday couldn't have gone better for him,

733
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: and explains a little bit why people thought he might

734
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: be a first rounder before his year at USC and

735
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: it is not. It is totally only fair to mention

736
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: when you're discussing how you know, underwhelming his freshman season went,

737
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: that the guy had cardiac arrest shortly before the season

738
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: started and they didn't even know if he was going

739
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: to be cleared to play, and how much did that

740
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: throw off any of his regular, you know, kind of

741
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: progression or schedule. Now, I do think most likely the

742
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: Lakers draft him, and you know, he's in their developmental league,

743
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 2: and that's most likely. But I don't think I think

744
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: that there's more optionality for Bronnie, particularly after yesterday.

745
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: All right, next, the Lions are all in on this court. Now.

746
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 4: They've locked up Golf on a four year, two hundred

747
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 4: and twelve million dollars contract, well one hundred and seventy

748
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: million guaranteed, right or wrong, in Jared Goff's contract is

749
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: worse than Daniel Jones.

750
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: It's not worse than Daniel Jones' is because Jared Golf

751
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: can play a little bit. If you keep him up

752
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 2: right and he doesn't get pressured, he's good. I don't

753
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: think this is a good contract, though it's not worse

754
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: than Daniel Jones' is but I wouldn't have done it,

755
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: and everyone said, oh, you have to rewarding me, you

756
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: have to do those things. I don't know that you did.

757
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: And I certainly think fifty three million a year for

758
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Jared Goff is rich. I'll tell you this much. Trevor Lawrence, Tua,

759
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, Dak Prescott all saw this deal and were

760
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: absolutely thrilled because all of those guys are going to

761
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: ask for considerably more than Jared Goff. They just are.

762
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 2: You can say that's unfair, you can say they haven't

763
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: been to a super Bowl. All that's true. They're all

764
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: gonna ask for more than Jared Goff. All right, last one.

765
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: The NFL schedule releases tomorrow, so there isn't a ton

766
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: to talk about now besides the anticipation.

767
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: Every year NFL teams.

768
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 4: Every every year NFL team social media pages go all

769
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: out for their schedule releases, and everybody loves them, everybody right,

770
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: right or wrong.

771
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: Nick likes fun.

772
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: I think it's fine. I don't like. I don't I

773
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: am not against it. I mean I won't watch any

774
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: of the page I guess.

775
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: Was doing like each week of them playing each team

776
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 4: like it had like their mascot or.

777
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: Like something destroying that.

778
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they all try to do something unique. The

779
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: Chargers social media team tends to do the best, but

780
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: they all try to. Some do video games, some do

781
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 2: like you were, like you were saying something involving actual animals.

782
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure it'll be fun. It's good fun.

783
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't have anything against it. I just it's not

784
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: really that Jason. It's just not for me. But I'm

785
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: almost forty like it. I'm not the audience they're going for.

786
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: That's fine. I don't judge it.

787
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: It's just it's just not social media for the Chargers.

788
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Quick break answer some listener questions. Next,

789
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: what's right? All right? Well, demon say I didn't hit

790
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen, but I think I can hit eleven, so

791
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm all right with it. Let's answer some listener questions.

792
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 4: Seeden Walder says, Hey, I just want to say thank

793
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: you to Nick and his team. This is the best

794
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: time of the week. I appreciate y'all.

795
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: Oh, well, that is super nice of you. Yeah, we

796
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: appreciate that, Seaton and I hate that this is I

797
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: guess maybe the wrong time to then mention this, So

798
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: I apologize, but no show Thursday.

799
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: Sorry.

800
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: I have a prior I have something that I have

801
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: to do on Thursday, and I don't I have a

802
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: surprise also for Demansey Shade's pulling up. I don't want

803
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: to reveal it this moment, but I can't do that.

804
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: We're not going to do the show Thursday, so we'll

805
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: be back on Tuesday. All right, Let's go to the

806
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: next question.

807
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: Bradley Hammond asked listener question, golf gets paid the Prince

808
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 4: Dak too a party? Love all come and do soon enough?

809
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 4: Are you finally going to see the quarterback contracts level

810
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: off or will golf be a cheap deal a year

811
00:50:59,600 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 4: from now?

812
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I think golf will be cheap. Adjacent like

813
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: I think Dak's gonna get sixty plus million. I think that.

814
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: I think the I think the prints and TUA will

815
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: be around Golf's number fifty three to fifty five ish perty.

816
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: I have no idea, and I don't know how Jordan

817
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: Loves contract's gonna work out, all right.

818
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: Next, Joey Kantra asked what amendment would you make to

819
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: the rules in the NBA in the NFL if you

820
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: were allowed to change one in each sport.

821
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: Draft or playoff opponent. That's the one change I would

822
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: make across the board. It'd be unbelievable drama, it'd be

823
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: great television. It would also reward regular season excellence.

824
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: Next, Jack Sullivan asked Nick, what percentage of the time

825
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: should you draft for need versus draft best player available?

826
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: Is it different for the NFL and NBA?

827
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 2: Oh, it's wildly different for the NFL. In the NBA,

828
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: the NBA, you should one hundred percent of the time

829
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: draft the best player. You should be totally, positionally agnostic.

830
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: Whoever the best player is, that is who you should draft.

831
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: That's not even a question. The NFL, it's far more complicated. Uh,

832
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 2: you are, if you need a quarterback, it makes sense

833
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: to reach and take, you know, on a lottery ticket.

834
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: Be like, even if you only think you have a

835
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: ten percent chance of hitting. If you if the best

836
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: player available on your board is a position you're stacked at,

837
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 2: or a position to blow value running back, tight end,

838
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 2: and there's a you have a huge position of need

839
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: that's a key position like tackle, you can reach on that.

840
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: So it's just totally totally different.

841
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, Jeff Jeff Carter asked Nick, do

842
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 4: you think Caleb will be the second best quarterback in

843
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: the NFL by the end of his rookie contract?

844
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: The second best quarterback in the NFL by the end

845
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: of his rookie contract? Yes, I do, Yeah, I do.

846
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: I think that Caleb will be. I think he'll be

847
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: a top five quarterback by the end of year two,

848
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: and I think he'll be the second best quarterback in

849
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: the league up at the end of his rookie contracts

850
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: by the end of your five I absolutely do. All right,

851
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: only ten minutes later and I said we were gonna

852
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: do We got eleven twenty five. Pretty good. It's spent

853
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: a little especially considering I did the the lebron Cavs thing,

854
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: which wasn't even in the rundown. All right, I'm on

855
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: Colin in ninety minutes. I've got the show in three

856
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: and a half hours. We are not back on this

857
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: podcast for a week. We will see you guys. Then

858
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 2: we'll tray. Hey, thanks for watching. If you're still here,

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