Speaker 1: Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Shane Bacon, and a intro a little different. Max Homa
Speaker 1: is sitting next to me and Max. Normally this is
Speaker 1: the time where I talk about like going to Bandon
Speaker 1: Dunes and spending the week their anniversary all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna get into basically your somewhat wild week
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Speaker 1: we get going, I do want to give you some
Speaker 1: bad news because I know you've had a really good week.
Speaker 1: Hey hit me okay. Um, I looked up before you
Speaker 1: got here the a on Risk Reward challenge UH for
Speaker 1: the week. It's something you and I've really talked a
Speaker 1: lot about. Um, you dropped three spots. Um, you were
Speaker 1: tied for seventy second going into the Wells far ago
Speaker 1: you dropped for a tie for seventy five with Peter
Speaker 1: u Wine. What do you have to say about yourself
Speaker 1: about how do you be tie with Peter? One of
Speaker 1: my best friends. He obviously must be extremely disappointed as well.
Speaker 1: What's funny is you were not the only person that
Speaker 1: texting about seriously had more people. A couple other people
Speaker 1: are like, hey, man, that a on all was fourteen
Speaker 1: and you didn't play very well, and I I knew,
Speaker 1: but uh, it's something I gotta improve on it. It's
Speaker 1: kind of nice when you when you get home from
Speaker 1: a win and and you can look at how to
Speaker 1: get better because you know you want to improve and
Speaker 1: that's obviously a glaring spot that I need to need
Speaker 1: to improve on. So it's been three days. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you and I were gonna talk on Monday,
Speaker 1: and then you've got a whole bunch of stuff going on. Um,
Speaker 1: just from a guy that's a professional golfer, which of
Speaker 1: course is is the thing everybody aspires to be on
Speaker 1: a PGA tour to um, you know, a PGA Tour winner.
Speaker 1: What's the last three days been like? Um? Has it
Speaker 1: been different than you ever would have expected? Has it
Speaker 1: been somewhat similar? Has it been wild? What's it been
Speaker 1: like to kind of go through the process of what
Speaker 1: it takes when you win to kind of fulfill all
Speaker 1: the obligations you have. Yeah, it actually is pretty different
Speaker 1: as I think the first time my agent has actually
Speaker 1: had to like do real work. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: have corporate deals. I don't have all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: you know, he had to keep me up to date,
Speaker 1: you know, put together a schedule of all these interviews. Um,
Speaker 1: you know I've I've I've done interviews obviously before, but
Speaker 1: not back to back to back. I haven't had like
Speaker 1: literal requests most of the time. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I do stuff with you and railing up. Boy, it's
Speaker 1: like it's a lot more casual all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, I got call in numbers and this night
Speaker 1: it was on PJ to a radio like three times.
Speaker 1: But it was a blast. It's it's a dream come
Speaker 1: true even doing all that. I mean, it's so fun. Uh.
Speaker 1: My fiance Lacey, He's asked me if I'm getting sick
Speaker 1: of talking about it, and I am absolutely not. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what's just so wild? Is you know you?
Speaker 1: I mean, people, I think for the most part know
Speaker 1: your story. I mean, you were one of the best
Speaker 1: amateurs in the world, and then you struggled early on
Speaker 1: in your professional career and um, you know something that
Speaker 1: you I don't know how you did it. I mean
Speaker 1: I I tried to play many to our golf, and
Speaker 1: I mean I hit, I hit a moment with us
Speaker 1: that I can't do this. Um. Was there a point
Speaker 1: in your kind of journey through professional golf where you
Speaker 1: thought to yourself like I'm never going to get here,
Speaker 1: like I'm never going to get in contention at a
Speaker 1: PGA Tour event possibly win. I mean, did you ever
Speaker 1: have those moments of doubt, because it seems like maybe
Speaker 1: you didn't. I mean, it seems how positive you've been
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah. I think. Actually, how I've kind of
Speaker 1: been trying to explain it is I had had a
Speaker 1: million of those moments, but a million very small ones
Speaker 1: and never one big one. I can't remember one time
Speaker 1: where I was seriously sitting there like I really don't
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna do this. It was more like I
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, I can't do this. I'm
Speaker 1: over it, and then like ten seconds later I'd be
Speaker 1: like no, no, like you know, you're fine, just suck
Speaker 1: it up. Um. I think my biggest benefit and all
Speaker 1: of this, though, was that when I did come out
Speaker 1: of college, Um, you know, my first pro event was
Speaker 1: the Fries and I got ninth and played actually well,
Speaker 1: and got my web card and then got my PJA
Speaker 1: tour card, So I made a chunk of money that
Speaker 1: was sustainable. Um. And I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: who do go straight to the many tours. I I
Speaker 1: don't get how a lot of those people can last
Speaker 1: that long, because financially it is it is scary. I
Speaker 1: was never fine. I mean it's all relative, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't financially frightened about my future. But I figured I
Speaker 1: could kind of keep putting it together at least for
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. So I think that's what really
Speaker 1: helped me. I guess it was separate kind of my
Speaker 1: story from from a lot of others. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: tough not to not to give up a little bit.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I mean, the worst year
Speaker 1: I had, I was still on the web tour, which
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. I did look at a lot of
Speaker 1: people that my friends and others that were grinding it
Speaker 1: out on the Latino tour in Canada. I don't ever
Speaker 1: want to be a baby. There There wrest situations you
Speaker 1: can be in. So I I sucked it up well.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I was going to ask you about
Speaker 1: the web tour later. I mean for people that don't
Speaker 1: understand the talent level of the current Web dot Com Tour.
Speaker 1: You know, you were out there, you want on the
Speaker 1: tour you battle these guys. I mean, you see these
Speaker 1: commercials for the Web dot Com Tour about guys that
Speaker 1: make it to the PGA Tour and win when major championships.
Speaker 1: How close is the level of play when you compare
Speaker 1: what you went through for a number of years on
Speaker 1: the web to what you're going through now. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you know you've played with Dustin Johnson. You play
Speaker 1: with Dustin riv You told me it was a pretty
Speaker 1: cool experience. You obviously got a chance play with Rory
Speaker 1: uh this past week at the Wells Fargo. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the difference, if there's any at all and kind
Speaker 1: of the play when you were out on the web
Speaker 1: versus what you see now. Yeah, that's that's a great question.
Speaker 1: I get that a lot, and I think what I usually, well,
Speaker 1: what I used to tell people is the depth is
Speaker 1: the biggest difference between the PJ and the Web Tour.
Speaker 1: I I don't know how to quantify this, but if
Speaker 1: the cut at any given golf tournament was too under
Speaker 1: at a WEB event, I think it would be four
Speaker 1: underj Tovent. The median guy on the PJA Tour is
Speaker 1: so freaking good. People don't understand. You go look at
Speaker 1: whoever gets on the money List this year, which for
Speaker 1: the first time will not be on my radar. That
Speaker 1: guy is so freaking good it's stupid, all right. So
Speaker 1: that's where it's a little different. But the top of
Speaker 1: the top each week on the Web Tour, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the consistency might be are like the hardest
Speaker 1: part out there, um, but the top of the top
Speaker 1: that week, if you just could somehow supplant him in
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour event, he would be near contention. Playing
Speaker 1: with Destin and Rory there, that's a kind of a
Speaker 1: different world, man. That was a I played with Roy
Speaker 1: on Saturday and and I got Dustin for thirty six
Speaker 1: at RIV And they were the first two people I've
Speaker 1: honestly ever played with were And it's because of length,
Speaker 1: I think. But I was seriously dumbfounder how good they were. Well,
Speaker 1: you teld me a story about Dustin. I think he
Speaker 1: was a bunk or what at fifteen at RIV and
Speaker 1: you you played the course a lot, You're like, well,
Speaker 1: that's a out of bounds. It's literally you I aim
Speaker 1: so far off with the bunker to take it out
Speaker 1: of play, and he hit it in there and even
Speaker 1: my caddie looked at me. We were both waiting from
Speaker 1: the layup, and uh, he got in there and hits
Speaker 1: out and it goes you know, shoots straight up in
Speaker 1: the air. If anybody's played there, the bunkers like legitimately,
Speaker 1: like I would say like six ft d and he's
Speaker 1: two hundred. I think I had hit a six iron
Speaker 1: from the fairway. Uh. And so we had about and
Speaker 1: he hits a thing and it gets onto the green
Speaker 1: inside of all of us by the way, and I
Speaker 1: walked over. We walked over and Joe Mike Cady hadn't
Speaker 1: been looking, and he's like, we're destinated. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: like think like fifteen ft and he goes no, and
Speaker 1: I walked over. He's like he must have ripped an
Speaker 1: eight iron to get out of there, which would been crazy.
Speaker 1: And I went over there. I was what you hit
Speaker 1: and he said six I I literally like I don't
Speaker 1: even consider, like I don't know how to start with
Speaker 1: that shot. And so that they you know, there's that's
Speaker 1: the you know between the Web and the PJA. The
Speaker 1: PJA tores some freaking stuff that's a little different now.
Speaker 1: The Web gets some like Sam Burns last year. I
Speaker 1: keep keep waiting for him to completely break out. He's
Speaker 1: a freak. Um, But yeah, you don't have you know,
Speaker 1: twenty of those. I think the PJA Tour is obviously
Speaker 1: closer than twenty guys that kind of drop your job
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. You obviously we're gonna play in
Speaker 1: Texas this week and you pulled out. We were talking
Speaker 1: before we got going. You you were saying, you don't
Speaker 1: know how how some of these guys that win a
Speaker 1: lot can go back out the next week and like
Speaker 1: be mentally into it. We were talking like after Speed
Speaker 1: one that first Masters, he played Harvard Town literally the
Speaker 1: next week, and I think through thirty six sols he
Speaker 1: was either in contention or was right. The second ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I mean, for you, if you had to be teeing
Speaker 1: it on Thursday, which is tomorrow, I mean, like, how
Speaker 1: would you be able to get your yourself mentally there?
Speaker 1: I mean, is that a thing you're pretty shocked by?
Speaker 1: With the other guys being able to do that so well,
Speaker 1: I think it goes one of two ways. If I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, kind of guessing. Um, you either go
Speaker 1: out there free wheeling because who cares, um, and you
Speaker 1: play great, or you go out there freewheeling who cares,
Speaker 1: and you play terrible. You know, because I think the
Speaker 1: hardest part would be the preparation Tuesday Wednesday to get ready.
Speaker 1: Obviously you're saying thank you to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know out there. I've been around a couple of
Speaker 1: guys who haven't won, but like my buddy Taylor Gooch
Speaker 1: had played really well in Tori and we played a
Speaker 1: practice on the next week. Everyone's congratulating him and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's just a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: You're you're you're kind of love in life a little bit.
Speaker 1: I would say, you're a little less intense. But I
Speaker 1: can see how you could do it. But I think
Speaker 1: when you have your first one, it's a lot harder
Speaker 1: than next week. I assume. I mean, I imagine that
Speaker 1: if I were to win another one this year, obviously
Speaker 1: I understand a little more and it wouldn't be such
Speaker 1: a h I guess, like huge deal. Um, it would
Speaker 1: still be a big deal for for myself, but I
Speaker 1: guess for the for the media, whole world or whatever.
Speaker 1: You get some guy who who hasn't done anything and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, wins a golf tournament. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a lot more obligations for me. The next one
Speaker 1: would feel a little bit more normal. But yes, I
Speaker 1: think the most impressive thing about all these these top guys,
Speaker 1: you know Justin Jordan and Rory Dustin that they when
Speaker 1: a tournament, it really is like all right, cool, what's next?
Speaker 1: And they keep plugging because you know, the motivation I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's hard for them at some point. Um, and
Speaker 1: also just the focus to be like, yeah, well that's
Speaker 1: just another w I'm gonna go get get another one
Speaker 1: next week. Yeah. Another obligation you had was this Monday. Um,
Speaker 1: you you're kind of supposed to upset about it. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to caddy for this for this guy that you know,
Speaker 1: um at Phoenix Counch Club as he prepares to win
Speaker 1: the US Open, and uh, and now that's kind of
Speaker 1: gone out the window. I I'll tell you this. I
Speaker 1: had a lot of random people on Twitter throw themselves
Speaker 1: into the fray. I mean they were like, well, we'll
Speaker 1: jump in and take take the loop for Max, I
Speaker 1: was like lightening my bag, Harry bag for you. But
Speaker 1: is it while I mean we were literally joke texting
Speaker 1: about you know, like you've got a couple of weeks ago, Um,
Speaker 1: then we'll caddy and you'll have a couple of weeks off.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I know that winning well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I could only imagine winning something like this is
Speaker 1: life changing. But it's also like a media changing. I mean,
Speaker 1: because you've got to change your schedule. You know, you've
Speaker 1: got to like find homes and get ready for a
Speaker 1: major championship now. And I mean you've got to be
Speaker 1: going into it with confidence. I mean, you're playing great,
Speaker 1: great golf. I texted you the other day, I said
Speaker 1: you were number one in drugs gained for the week.
Speaker 1: You should keep doing that? Yeah, for sure? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is funny. I am no, Lie, Shame won't believe
Speaker 1: me on this. I know, Lie. I thought about it
Speaker 1: that how I could get home and do and I
Speaker 1: swear all my life, how can you get home and
Speaker 1: do it? But if it was anywhere but New York,
Speaker 1: because it really was far Because to be honest, I
Speaker 1: don't need to be at the golf course. The whole week.
Speaker 1: You know, I I don't really want to. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of work. I've played one major before
Speaker 1: and I remember being way too tired by Thursday because
Speaker 1: you're kind of soaking it all in. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can actually probably stay, but if I you know,
Speaker 1: if I stayed Monday, there's no there's no way to
Speaker 1: get there fast enough. But yeah, I felt bad about
Speaker 1: well that and also missing a buyer, and I don't
Speaker 1: like being the guy that withdraws late. But honestly, um,
Speaker 1: I emailed the term of director to day and just
Speaker 1: kind of apologize and explain myself. But uh, um, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where's I've never picked my schedule
Speaker 1: and and and it's it feels good, like it feels
Speaker 1: good to know that I'm in tournaments. I looked at
Speaker 1: the commitment sheet two days ago and it was honestly funny.
Speaker 1: I every single tournament that there's ever been, there's a
Speaker 1: you know, you have ranked from a number of one
Speaker 1: to whatever, and if there's a hundred and twenty people
Speaker 1: out in the field, you know, I'll always be even
Speaker 1: if I'm in the tournament I'm one fifteen, I'm always
Speaker 1: looking at I looked at him, and every single one
Speaker 1: was between the number of ten and fifteen. And that
Speaker 1: was the coolest part because I'm like, all right, I
Speaker 1: can actually make some decisions for my career now, not
Speaker 1: just go where they tell me to go. And I
Speaker 1: took advantage of that, you know, being able to skip
Speaker 1: Buyron and and get ready for my first major. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm playing well, and I know that golf course suits me.
Speaker 1: I've watched Tiger play play there enough times to know
Speaker 1: what it's about. So I'm looking forward to getting back
Speaker 1: back out there and kind of keep the ball rolling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, now your schedule foren I mean again, these
Speaker 1: are these are things that I think golf fans, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Is you know your three days post
Speaker 1: victory now you're I mean you you schedule change now?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you you now kind of go back
Speaker 1: through the rest of the year and go, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna skip this week, probably an event you
Speaker 1: would have played. Maybe I'm gonna play here the event
Speaker 1: you maybe wouldn't have got into. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: looked at that yet, is that something you've kind of
Speaker 1: run through yet or no, Yeah, we did that yesterday.
Speaker 1: I didn't really honestly, it was so crazy about winning,
Speaker 1: as I swear on my life, the only things I
Speaker 1: thought about coming down the stretch when I was like
Speaker 1: trying to keep those thoughts out where p G A
Speaker 1: uh and you know the money slash FedEx Cup, like
Speaker 1: you know, getting the playoffs stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 1: keeping my card. So uh. I never thought about the Masters.
Speaker 1: I remember my buddy John called me and the first
Speaker 1: thing you said was You're going to the Masters, And
Speaker 1: I was like, holy cow, I forgot about that. I
Speaker 1: didn't know I was going to you know, Hawaii. And
Speaker 1: then I found out I'm getting in the w g
Speaker 1: C Memphis, and all these things are to happen, and
Speaker 1: I can't really believe it all. I just honestly thought
Speaker 1: about the p G A. So yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 1: I went through the whole schedule yesterday and realized that
Speaker 1: there's a couple events I'm gonna skip. Uh. The funny
Speaker 1: part about the schedule though, is since since I'm not
Speaker 1: in the you know, US Opening British Open yet, um like,
Speaker 1: there are still some events that I was already gonna
Speaker 1: play that I can keep playing, which I like because
Speaker 1: I've been there before. Um, but yeah, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of different ones, like you know, the Barracuda and Reno.
Speaker 1: I've played that every year. I really enjoy it. But
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a w g C and I'd rather,
Speaker 1: you know, get to play for guaranteed rounds every honest
Speaker 1: little stuff like that. And honestly, the coolest part is actually,
Speaker 1: for the first time ever be able to plan for
Speaker 1: the playoffs and not go to the Web finals. That
Speaker 1: is the coolest feeling in the world, because I've done
Speaker 1: that every year for as long as I can remember,
Speaker 1: and it really really isn't fun. How many gifts did
Speaker 1: you go through before you set along? The Jordans shrug? Okay,
Speaker 1: though this is gonna be the one, the one funny thing.
Speaker 1: But I thought about it on Friday. Did you really
Speaker 1: didn't know if I was gonna write I was gonna
Speaker 1: do this shrug or if I was gonna just write
Speaker 1: Jordan's shrug dot Jeff. I don't know why it hit me,
Speaker 1: you know, I I I've learned a cool lesson with
Speaker 1: one of my old roommates in college and now the
Speaker 1: assistant coach at cal Mina. He uh, he had won
Speaker 1: the pack pack tens uh, you know, earlier in his
Speaker 1: in his life, and he used to tell me before
Speaker 1: I go into into rounds where I was leading um
Speaker 1: in college, he'd say, hey, let yourself drift for five
Speaker 1: ten minutes and then let it go, so like, let
Speaker 1: yourself enjoy it. So I'd sit around at night on
Speaker 1: Friday after you know, I had gotten into contention, and
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, all right, you know, what
Speaker 1: do you do? What would you do if you win?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna fist pump all this stuff? Like I
Speaker 1: let it dream? And then I'm like, well, I got
Speaker 1: this Twitter kind of like what are you gonna do
Speaker 1: with that? Like people are gonna be blowing you up?
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it super simple. It's not gonna be some
Speaker 1: corny thank you. It's just gonna be a what the
Speaker 1: heck just happened? I can't even explain it. Well, what's
Speaker 1: funny is I was listening this on Monday. I was
Speaker 1: listening to your No Laying Up podcast from October, which
Speaker 1: is great, by the way, if you haven't listened to
Speaker 1: that when it's awesome, just because I think when you
Speaker 1: kind of like juxtaposed that to now you know when
Speaker 1: you're you know you were happy then, I mean it
Speaker 1: was a it was a big stepping stone for you. Then. Um,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the shrug in that podcast you mentioned to
Speaker 1: Jordan's I don't even remember what it was about, but
Speaker 1: I remember I was listening to it. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that must be like his favorite his video ever, m
Speaker 1: J transcends everything you shouldn't You should just from now on? Nbhi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your Twitter accounts like they have a lot, so you
Speaker 1: need you need to like you need to like, uh
Speaker 1: like have some big moment where you stepped past a
Speaker 1: big name and it's the iverson Jim, Like that's the
Speaker 1: only way you communicate from now on. Um, I saw
Speaker 1: Rex Hoggard said, Uh, Tommy the sort of reached out
Speaker 1: to you. Um, is there anybody else like big name
Speaker 1: that hits you up or since you a text or
Speaker 1: called you or anything like that? Pretty cool? I got
Speaker 1: a lot of them that shocked me. Um. Andre Iguadala,
Speaker 1: who I had met a while back, and he's actually
Speaker 1: boys with Justin Thomas, and you know I've been Andre
Speaker 1: probably know this, but I mean I was around Justin
Speaker 1: when he got Andre sin in my jersey and he
Speaker 1: tried it on and it was the funniest thing ever.
Speaker 1: Seasons like's ankles. But he texted me I played the
Speaker 1: prom with him once and that was pretty cool just
Speaker 1: to know that he was watching. I know he loves golf.
Speaker 1: The you know, the a lot of cool ones. I mean,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers messaged me. I've got to know him a bit.
Speaker 1: He's awesome, but he mess to be something that was
Speaker 1: really kind of well thought out of something, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of along the lines of, you know, two year
Speaker 1: exemption check. Um, you know, your first win check and like,
Speaker 1: you know, knowing that all the hard work paid off,
Speaker 1: like that's priceless and getting that from I got a
Speaker 1: lot of great messages from friends, family and whatnot, and
Speaker 1: they all mean a lot to me, but sometimes when
Speaker 1: you get them from other athletes that get it a
Speaker 1: little bit more, it really hits you. You know. Justin
Speaker 1: Thomas text me and that meant a lot. Um, there
Speaker 1: were some cool people that reached out, but the Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers one hit me because I'm like, this is pretty
Speaker 1: cool because he's one of my heroes. We went to
Speaker 1: same college and everything, and I love watching him, so
Speaker 1: he's he's a stud and for him to be not
Speaker 1: only watching but put some thought into two messaging me,
Speaker 1: it was cool. So you know, like obviously, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to root for people, but I mean
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I mean we're pals and and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I root for guys that I mean, you're a
Speaker 1: good guy, You're you're a nice dude. You you've worked
Speaker 1: your ass off to get there. Um. So you know,
Speaker 1: on Sunday, a couple of buddies that we had dinner
Speaker 1: with a couple of lenths go whatever. We were all
Speaker 1: kind of watching it at this MEXICANCLU food place down
Speaker 1: the street, and I I mean, I get nervous, you know,
Speaker 1: watching somebody that I know that I want to do well. Um.
Speaker 1: And then like in my head, I'm thinking, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: like this is nerve wracking for me. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you've won big events before, you've won professional
Speaker 1: events before. Um is it is it easier to do
Speaker 1: that when you throughout the years see other guys that
Speaker 1: have pulled off wins for the first time, like Adam
Speaker 1: Long what he did. I mean, we as fans are
Speaker 1: shocked that he could stand up to a Phil Nicholson, right,
Speaker 1: But I mean he has self belief in himself. He's
Speaker 1: done all the work to get there. And then you
Speaker 1: look at you know, Mitchell who who wins that event
Speaker 1: up against brooks Kepka in big names like that. For you,
Speaker 1: I mean when you're in that instance, I can only
Speaker 1: imagine it's nerve wracking, but like there's not self doubt
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, you just you're playing well and
Speaker 1: you believe it's going to happen. Is that help? Knowing
Speaker 1: that these guys have already done it. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of these first time winners that have kind of come
Speaker 1: through in twenty nineteen. I didn't think about it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that that probably does help have the same though reaction
Speaker 1: that you're talking about when you're watching, Like when I'm
Speaker 1: watching Keith Adam, I seriously keep thinking, you know, if
Speaker 1: I'm in that position, I don't know if I could
Speaker 1: take the club back. You know what, You've got Phil
Speaker 1: Mickelson breathing on in your neck, you have brooks Kepta
Speaker 1: and Ricky Faller breathing down your neck, and you step
Speaker 1: up on this not only the fifteen footer. I feel
Speaker 1: like that would might be the easiest part, because you know,
Speaker 1: you lose, you miss it, you go to a playoff,
Speaker 1: But just even hitting the ball off the tee teeing
Speaker 1: it up, those things seem crazy me. But it's so weird.
Speaker 1: I guess this is why, honestly we do. We do
Speaker 1: this for a living, because getting that moment, and I've
Speaker 1: said it a million times since I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm nervous as hell going to the golf course and
Speaker 1: the golf club gets in my hands, and it's just weird.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, this is what we do, dude, like
Speaker 1: get out there. The biggest for me, though, and all
Speaker 1: of it, was Saturday playing with Rory. I was honestly
Speaker 1: a hundred times more nervous, and even Sunday, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was a lot of people is his birthday.
Speaker 1: He is obviously fantastic. He owns that golf course. And
Speaker 1: we got out there. In the first hole, I'm legitimately shaking,
Speaker 1: like I picked up my water and I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: I can't let people see this because it's bad, and
Speaker 1: I just I just looked around to the crowd and
Speaker 1: it was almost like every time somebody stopped ruting. You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't rooting for me. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people rooting for Rory, which is I totally understand why
Speaker 1: I don't care at all, um, but I like built
Speaker 1: a chip on my shoulder. I'm like, somebody told me.
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, I can't remember who it was, but
Speaker 1: somebody before the round said, hey, make him know you, like,
Speaker 1: like show him who you are. And I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that's tight. Like I'm gonna show he's gonna know who
Speaker 1: I am after today, and I the next day, same thing.
Speaker 1: You know, we roll in. I end up having breakfast
Speaker 1: with Rory, which was awesome. He's the best dude in
Speaker 1: the world. If I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: at breakfast with Rory, I got you know, justin Rose
Speaker 1: walk by me, and I know they all know that
Speaker 1: I'm leading. They don't know who I am, but they
Speaker 1: know that this kid is leading, you know, pass some
Speaker 1: people on some fairways or whatnot. And every time I
Speaker 1: just kept thinking to myself, I was like, these guys
Speaker 1: are gonna know who I am by the end of
Speaker 1: this day. And it kind of helped me get that
Speaker 1: motivation said of just being like who the hell am
Speaker 1: I like, I shouldn't do this. The logic goes out
Speaker 1: the window. You know it helped a little bit, is it?
Speaker 1: Is it fun when you play with Rory and you
Speaker 1: hit a good ball and you're like, oh, for yards
Speaker 1: up there? I can't tell. I can't even explain. I
Speaker 1: watched him hit his driver a hundred percent like my hero. Well,
Speaker 1: what's funny is I have a two parts of this
Speaker 1: after the Saturday, you know, get back really late with
Speaker 1: two delays. My I call my coach, my coach, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of hyping me up for the next day. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the stuff we need to prep for what
Speaker 1: he honestly saw my swing that we you know, might
Speaker 1: need to like watch out for when I get nervous
Speaker 1: here and there, um, stuff like that, and then game plan.
Speaker 1: I said, coach, I need two minutes to talk about
Speaker 1: good Roy Mcroys because we're talking about it all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of golfers. We talked about them
Speaker 1: all but I was like, I need two minutes. He
Speaker 1: goes he last, he goes, Okay. I said, I know
Speaker 1: this is bad because I'm trying to beat the guy,
Speaker 1: but like I'm in awe of him. The first t
Speaker 1: shot he hit, I bombed one, like, I hit one
Speaker 1: really good off the first and uh, right down the
Speaker 1: middle and and the whole dog legs hard to the right.
Speaker 1: There's trees right, and you know, to cover the fairway,
Speaker 1: it's into the win on the right is probably two nineties,
Speaker 1: so if you catch one, you can kind of cover
Speaker 1: the corner and then it slowly gets longer. He hit
Speaker 1: this ball over the right trees that honestly, if you
Speaker 1: didn't know it was him, you're like, oh, that's you know,
Speaker 1: if there was out of bounds, it's out of bounds.
Speaker 1: And he does that. We get out there, the middle
Speaker 1: of the fairway is a wedge and I've got eight iron.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dang, dude, I bomb that. But I mean
Speaker 1: he's literally taking a forty yard different line than me.
Speaker 1: The next hole, I hit three wood. He hits driver
Speaker 1: over the trees again, and I'm walking off the tea
Speaker 1: and I look at Joe my caddy and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like do I say good shot? Like
Speaker 1: I have no idea where that is. I assume it's perfect.
Speaker 1: And so we walked over to Rory were like is
Speaker 1: that good? Like, and he goes, he goes. I don't
Speaker 1: really know. I know they took some trees out. And
Speaker 1: then the funniest one though for me, that was on
Speaker 1: nine because I saw some people catch me looking. On nine,
Speaker 1: I threw it again and I necked it real bad.
Speaker 1: I hit up, I'm gonna put this out there. He
Speaker 1: hits it far. I hit a bad three wood and
Speaker 1: he had a great drive. Everybody. I hit off the
Speaker 1: tea first because you know, at the time, I was
Speaker 1: whooping on him. And he bombs it over these left
Speaker 1: trees that like I I played cut. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: consider going over those trees. And he just hits his high, high,
Speaker 1: high draw that is just in the air for ever.
Speaker 1: And I remember walking off the box. I try not
Speaker 1: to like linger on the box. I tried to walk
Speaker 1: up the box and I remember I made like I
Speaker 1: just like what the hell face? And I saw like
Speaker 1: three guys started laughing, and you see his face on
Speaker 1: the God that's gonna be on TV. But he saw it.
Speaker 1: So that was bad. But that's how I felt. But
Speaker 1: like on ten, I did catch you know, I caught
Speaker 1: a couple of drives. I didn't drive it great with him.
Speaker 1: I caught a couple of drives and I was like,
Speaker 1: within he does it every time. It's unbelievable that the
Speaker 1: sound it comes off his club faces is stupid. He
Speaker 1: is a legitimate driving machine. Um. I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk too much about like your actual round, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I think I started the day watching and
Speaker 1: here a third hole you hit in the pine straw.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking back on your round thinking that
Speaker 1: was one of the shots of your day, maybe the
Speaker 1: shots of your week, because you were in trouble a
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, you almost made it. I know
Speaker 1: you didn't make the putt, but that had to be
Speaker 1: one of those shots at least, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: as I'm watching you thinking what you might be thinking,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's one of those shots that
Speaker 1: kind of like calms you down a little bit because
Speaker 1: you had a great, great recovery. I had a good
Speaker 1: up and down on two, and that was that. That
Speaker 1: helped a lot. But then yeah, three, three was tough too,
Speaker 1: because three is a hard ta shot, and it was cold,
Speaker 1: a lot colder, and it was really windy for our
Speaker 1: first hour. So one to three were really really hard.
Speaker 1: Honestly thinking back on it, and even at the time,
Speaker 1: I kind of thought, even on three, like if you
Speaker 1: make a bogie here, uh, it sets you back a little.
Speaker 1: But like these holes are the hardest holes right now,
Speaker 1: Like this is no big deal. But I hit a
Speaker 1: pretty good drive on three. I don't love the t shot. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just very it's very straight, which sounds weird, but
Speaker 1: I have to kind of cut it off this tree
Speaker 1: and it just didn't quite cut enough and it hit
Speaker 1: the tree. And I looked at you know, Joe, and
Speaker 1: I was like, actually that pretty well. It just was
Speaker 1: a little late cut. He goes, yeah, He goes, you
Speaker 1: should be fine. You're gonna have a seven iron and
Speaker 1: from the left rough to a right pin, no biggie.
Speaker 1: And we get out there and it hit. It hit
Speaker 1: the tree was in the pine shot and we were
Speaker 1: way back to two oh five or something and we
Speaker 1: didn't know the shot. It was humming off the left pins, front, right,
Speaker 1: and right. Bunker is the only place you can't be um.
Speaker 1: And I got up there and pine shot was tough
Speaker 1: for for people I haven't been there. You can't really
Speaker 1: ground your feet, you can't get a lot of speed
Speaker 1: Joe wanted me to hit a six iron and a
Speaker 1: high hook around the tree and I told him I
Speaker 1: was I could do. I can't get enough speed on this,
Speaker 1: like I gotta hit five. And you know, he fortunately
Speaker 1: like kind of let me roll with that. But having
Speaker 1: him tell me high hook, I like more than just
Speaker 1: starting one way left. And I hit in. It was
Speaker 1: off the face. I flushed it, but it was much
Speaker 1: right of it didn't draw. You know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of wind coming off. It didn't draw. And I'm staring
Speaker 1: at and he I can just hear him saying go,
Speaker 1: go go, and I hit it and I was like,
Speaker 1: I hit that thing really good. I was like, if
Speaker 1: this one can just stay online, it might be pretty good.
Speaker 1: And it got up there and I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: That was That was a big settling point for me
Speaker 1: because I was like, that was one of the better
Speaker 1: shots I've ever hit just in general. I mean, off
Speaker 1: pine straw to a tuck pin at five ft that's
Speaker 1: pretty good. So to do it under that, I started
Speaker 1: to make me believe myself a little bit. Eighteen. I
Speaker 1: was kind of laughing a little bit. You're again, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is reality. I mean you this is something you
Speaker 1: haven't been on your your on national television. You're you're
Speaker 1: you're gonna win. Obviously you smoked that the t shot.
Speaker 1: Of course, I know you talked about the twirl with
Speaker 1: the no lane up guys, which was which was awesome.
Speaker 1: But you were walking up and we're laughing. You're like,
Speaker 1: give Joe the putter, and I saw that gave him
Speaker 1: back the butter, and you had this grin on your face.
Speaker 1: You're like, shit, am I doing this right? You know?
Speaker 1: It was just it was just like this funny moment
Speaker 1: because again, like what I love about it, and what
Speaker 1: I think is is so real about you is you
Speaker 1: kind of will smile about that stuff. You know, you're
Speaker 1: having a good time with it. Obviously you're having a
Speaker 1: good time. You're gonna win for goodness sake, But you
Speaker 1: kind of were doing that. And then I even heard
Speaker 1: you mentioned this. He said, Uh, you didn't know if
Speaker 1: Duffer was gonna put out Yeah, and you like didn't
Speaker 1: really know the process of protocol. Yeah, there's no protocol.
Speaker 1: And then your reaction on on a team with the putt,
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have you ever have you ever
Speaker 1: had that big of a reaction for a victory anything
Speaker 1: like that. Before one I actually remember and I'll shout
Speaker 1: out Justin Thomas again. But we played a match his
Speaker 1: freshman year of my junior year at riverat Nationals for
Speaker 1: the team thing, and uh, they sent me out first
Speaker 1: against Justin And at the time, I honestly hated Justin Thomas.
Speaker 1: I didn't know him. He's a great dude, but I
Speaker 1: hated him. He seemed like this guy that had been,
Speaker 1: you know, blessed with so much golf ability. And also
Speaker 1: it's just kind of like a spoiled kid. To me,
Speaker 1: this is like such an outside looking in. He never struggled.
Speaker 1: I felt like I struggled all through high school and college.
Speaker 1: So we get out there and play, and I just
Speaker 1: remember all day, I said I was not going to
Speaker 1: show a lick of emotion all day, and he was
Speaker 1: gonna have to. He was he was going to be
Speaker 1: the one that kind of be loose and and here
Speaker 1: and there, and I end up beating him. And on
Speaker 1: seventeen it all came out of me and I made
Speaker 1: about a twelve footer to beat him, and it was
Speaker 1: one of those I didn't plan on it, but I
Speaker 1: yelled just like I yelled there and on eighteen I
Speaker 1: did not plan on it at all. I honestly plan
Speaker 1: on missing that put because I couldn't believe I would
Speaker 1: make one more. You know, I made a million ten
Speaker 1: footers of during the week and to make one more
Speaker 1: making a perfect speed, and I didn't think about a thing.
Speaker 1: And it was weird. I fist pumped. I knew I
Speaker 1: had fist pump a little bit, because you know, you're
Speaker 1: going to celebrate something. But I yelled, man, And even
Speaker 1: as I was yelling, I was laughing at myself. I
Speaker 1: was like, what is happening? But it just came out.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of a lot of frustration, um,
Speaker 1: but a lot of pride and uh, you just never
Speaker 1: know if you're gonna be there, man, and it happens,
Speaker 1: and your body just kind of takes over. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a it's the weirdest feeling in the world. So
Speaker 1: we were talking earlier about you know, playing the next
Speaker 1: week and guys being content and uh, and I can
Speaker 1: only imagine for somebody like you. Um, you've been been
Speaker 1: in the lows of lows of Prestel golfer and obviously
Speaker 1: now you're at the high highs of professional golfer. How
Speaker 1: do you reset yourself so that you're not content throughout
Speaker 1: the rest of twenty nineteen. How do you reset yourself
Speaker 1: to go into these events going forward with the same drive, determination,
Speaker 1: relentlessness to go in there and and and compete and
Speaker 1: try to win more, Because I mean, I know, I
Speaker 1: know you want more tastes of this, So how is
Speaker 1: it how how hard is it going to be to
Speaker 1: avoid that? You know, if you shoot seventy four seventy
Speaker 1: four and week be like you already got to win
Speaker 1: this year? Yeah, I think I think that's gonna be hard,
Speaker 1: But I think that's also good because at times you
Speaker 1: can shoot seventy seventy four, leave the golf course and
Speaker 1: be just in shambles, where I've always been jealous of
Speaker 1: people that can do that and be able to reset
Speaker 1: and think my life's not over. I have some stability
Speaker 1: because it coming off the web category. I mean, you
Speaker 1: should you miss a couple of cuts and you really
Speaker 1: don't get into anything. Now, to know that I can
Speaker 1: actually have some freedom might end up making me play better.
Speaker 1: But what I've been great at in my life with
Speaker 1: with goals and whatnot, is I haven't made goals super specific.
Speaker 1: I had one this year that was Tour championship, which
Speaker 1: means you had a great year, and that means that
Speaker 1: you're never gonna clinch that, Like I can't clinch that
Speaker 1: all of us, and so that's gonna take a lot
Speaker 1: more work. But in general, my I wouldn't be content
Speaker 1: now that I have a taste of what winning it's like,
Speaker 1: or even just being in contention. That's all I want,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's legitimately like a drug. Like if I
Speaker 1: go the rest of my career and never have that again,
Speaker 1: but I can keep my card every year and I'm living,
Speaker 1: you know, financially like stable and and having a great life.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be upset because that feeling Saturday Sunday
Speaker 1: was unbelievable playing with Rory Um, you know, playing in
Speaker 1: the final group with Dufner coming down eighteen. Knowing you
Speaker 1: want like that stuff is is so addicting. Like I
Speaker 1: can't imagine going out to the golf course next week
Speaker 1: and just be like, well, whatever happens happens. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the good end of whatever happens happens
Speaker 1: because I can finally kind of look at it and
Speaker 1: just be like it's just golf. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: not the end of the world now, And when when before,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're struggling to keep your car for
Speaker 1: the first time ever and you just remember all the
Speaker 1: bad shots you've hit, it does kind of feel like
Speaker 1: the end of the world. Going into the PJA Championship again,
Speaker 1: you're playing well hit and well putting great. I mean
Speaker 1: you're making everything for guns. Um, that's gotta be a
Speaker 1: good feeling. But I mean even the rain delay when
Speaker 1: you came out and carry that pud you hit the putt.
Speaker 1: They had this great camera at a people. I actually
Speaker 1: did see that one, and I mean again, I mean
Speaker 1: it's hard to read putts on TV, but you hit
Speaker 1: it and we were all like, it's like Woody and
Speaker 1: me and Andrew were like like, man, that's a bumber
Speaker 1: of a horn. You know, you don't want like a
Speaker 1: five a half. You're like, I want the t shot
Speaker 1: or I'll take like a wedge or whatever. But you're
Speaker 1: like five and a half foot or man, that's kind
Speaker 1: of a bummer and uh, and you hit it, and
Speaker 1: I kind of like from TV it looked like it
Speaker 1: went the other way. Yeah, I thought honestly thought it
Speaker 1: before I read it, or sorry, before the rain delay.
Speaker 1: Joe told me to go look at that put and
Speaker 1: he comes over. He goes and it was raining, but
Speaker 1: he goes, what's that put? I said, right edge? And
Speaker 1: we got back out there and he goes right edge.
Speaker 1: I was like, a't right that it went that way?
Speaker 1: And when you hit it, I was like, oh, and
Speaker 1: then it just goes right like it just was like that,
Speaker 1: you know, every pot was like just like a go
Speaker 1: for going to his hole. It's like, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy's pretty locked in right now. But you know,
Speaker 1: you you go into next week and it's a p
Speaker 1: J championship in the field's gonna all the best players
Speaker 1: in the world and you're gonna have the Rory's and
Speaker 1: the Dustins, but the Tigers and the Fields and all
Speaker 1: these guys out there. Um, I mean you go into
Speaker 1: it with confidence like I can get myself a contention again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not delusional enough at this point to think that
Speaker 1: like I'm all of a sudden, you know, in the
Speaker 1: class of Rory McRoy like and I mean this in
Speaker 1: in the in the most respect even to myself, Like
Speaker 1: what I learned this week though, is on any given week,
Speaker 1: my good golf is as good as anyone's good golf.
Speaker 1: I think that Rory's and Tigers and Justin's and Dustin's
Speaker 1: and Brooks is is better weekly, you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: okay with that. I need to get better. I obviously
Speaker 1: haven't had the the success they've had on on a
Speaker 1: full year scale. But what I learned, and what I
Speaker 1: also really did know for most of my life, was
Speaker 1: my great golf is very very great, and I think
Speaker 1: that's cool to know. So I think that's where I'll
Speaker 1: feed off of. Obviously, we're gonna, you know, my coach,
Speaker 1: me and Joe are going to continue to try to
Speaker 1: get better and get onto Rory's level, uh and all
Speaker 1: that to be more consistent like that. But yeah, that
Speaker 1: what I can finally really hold on too, is if
Speaker 1: I call that PJA Championship and I know that I
Speaker 1: don't need to play perfect because I didn't. And that's
Speaker 1: finally what's great is I know that I played a
Speaker 1: good I've hit the ball a lot better than I
Speaker 1: did last week, and and I haven't put it much
Speaker 1: better than that, But I mean I've put it like
Speaker 1: that before. I didn't completely black out. I played my
Speaker 1: golf and it was just really good, solid golf. So
Speaker 1: it will be cool to go out there with a
Speaker 1: ton of confidence to know that, hey, if you got
Speaker 1: this thing rolling, like, we don't need to be shocked
Speaker 1: that we're near the lead. What's been interesting And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you felt this or not. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously maybe it's a little bit too close to your chest,
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, your win this week has felt
Speaker 1: like it's been more attachable. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, if you sinse that. I mean,
Speaker 1: even like the SPP thing that he did such a
Speaker 1: great job with. Um My ups guy yesterday drove by
Speaker 1: and he knows I'm in the golf media. He drove
Speaker 1: by ESD and he was like, man, that was really cool,
Speaker 1: and he said he didn't know I know you. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, that was really cool. On Sunday, I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I was sweet, right, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I just you know, like I feel like and I mean,
Speaker 1: you're so good at social media. I think it helps
Speaker 1: that with social media because will root for you because
Speaker 1: you're such a genuine dude on that platform. Don't change,
Speaker 1: by the way, don't become something like guy that just
Speaker 1: puts puts us out by the way you put you
Speaker 1: did put out like in the last three days you
Speaker 1: put out like two things that were like sponsor stuff.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be this person I'm raising money for. I'm alrighty,
Speaker 1: I got a cherry. I gotta retweet that. Yeah that
Speaker 1: that was funny. They showed you your thing on TV
Speaker 1: versus like Sergio maybe really really weird. I feel like
Speaker 1: I should win this, sure win it. We were watching
Speaker 1: it and we were all at the same time, we're like,
Speaker 1: what did he chip in? Y made like a six
Speaker 1: ft I hit it over like a ninety foot tree
Speaker 1: and like get a nice chip up to a foot
Speaker 1: and that'll be your a that's challenge. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: But you know, have you felt that, like have you
Speaker 1: had people reach out there, like your your story in
Speaker 1: a sense you know, inspires me, or maybe a mini
Speaker 1: tour guy that's like, man, dude, like if you can
Speaker 1: do this, like I feel like I can like put
Speaker 1: more work into my game. Have you have you seen
Speaker 1: those types of things has come your way? That's been
Speaker 1: the coolest part. What No Laying Up did that was
Speaker 1: so cool was in that in that podcast we did
Speaker 1: after our tour championship on web. Um. You know, they
Speaker 1: took a blurb from it four minutes and it was
Speaker 1: my favorite four minutes. But they do such a good
Speaker 1: job of you know, they're some of my best friends.
Speaker 1: But they've given me a bit of a platform to
Speaker 1: be able to talk about my struggles. And I don't
Speaker 1: hide from it. I mean it happens, um and I
Speaker 1: was able to and they were able to cut four
Speaker 1: minutes out of it. And I got a lot of responses,
Speaker 1: uh that were not golf base, like hey, dude, like
Speaker 1: if you don't you know, to their followers, if you
Speaker 1: don't listen, if you don't watch golf, this can still
Speaker 1: help you. And I got a couple of texts from
Speaker 1: people who are working their way up, you know, their
Speaker 1: their own profession and they've had struggles and they texted
Speaker 1: me and be like, hey man, that was very inspirational.
Speaker 1: And what's funny is is you know I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't know obviously I was gonna be here. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that this was all gonna work out. But when
Speaker 1: I'd be sitting in my hotel room on a Friday
Speaker 1: afternoon after missing my millionth cut and hating life. I
Speaker 1: sat there thinking to myself, I'm gonna be like what
Speaker 1: I him right now, Like this story I pictured, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be this guy. People are gonna look at
Speaker 1: me and think, man, he can do what I can
Speaker 1: do it. I think that they're there. You know, everyone's
Speaker 1: attached themselves to you know, John Daily and more everyday golfer,
Speaker 1: Like you can kind of see yourself in him. It's
Speaker 1: so hard to do that with Justin and Rory and Tiger.
Speaker 1: I mean, like Tiger isn't a real person to me,
Speaker 1: Like I can't relate any shot I've hit even do
Speaker 1: him Like it's just differ. Everything he does is so
Speaker 1: much better and different than all of us. But you
Speaker 1: can relate yourself to little stories here and there are
Speaker 1: people kind of, you know, making a comeback, doing little
Speaker 1: things that like you're like, oh, yeah, I I've I've
Speaker 1: had a bad day and then I overcame it or
Speaker 1: I can overcome it. People losing weight or getting in
Speaker 1: shape and all these things. So it was cool that
Speaker 1: they cut that four minutes, and it was really cool
Speaker 1: that Scott Van Pelt thing is the coolest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever ever, that was the first one I hit me.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck that just happened? Like,
Speaker 1: but but it's cool because that was my goal. Man.
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted it to be bigger than just
Speaker 1: just the golf. I knew I had to get my
Speaker 1: golf game back, but I also thought to myself off
Speaker 1: that in this process, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: what people can look to at some point of the
Speaker 1: stories that I'm at the time looking forward to find
Speaker 1: some motivation, because you know, it's hard, you you you
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of it. So I needed to
Speaker 1: find some people that had done something like I did
Speaker 1: and to be able to do it and help people
Speaker 1: in the future and just kind of I want everybody
Speaker 1: to be successful and I don't want anybody to ever quit.
Speaker 1: And it was cool to show that, you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit of perseverance can go a long way. Where
Speaker 1: did you get that from? Like your parents? Your mom,
Speaker 1: like your dad? Like, where did you get that from?
Speaker 1: Where did you get that? No quip mentality? I have
Speaker 1: great parents, and you know, they were the type growing
Speaker 1: up they don't know a ton about golf. My dad
Speaker 1: got me into it, but it was one of those
Speaker 1: where like they wouldn't let me win sports. I cry,
Speaker 1: you know when you're a kid that they would tag
Speaker 1: me out when we played a little baseball games. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't let me win anything. And I was kind of
Speaker 1: an annoying kid. I would flip the board, you know,
Speaker 1: candy land if I was losing all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: I think a part of it, obviously, besides what they
Speaker 1: taught me and instilled to me, is I think some
Speaker 1: of it might just be natural. Because I know this
Speaker 1: is the corny story ever, but my mom and dad
Speaker 1: tell me were the apartment I lived in one and
Speaker 1: I was like, from you know, birth to three years old,
Speaker 1: had a little step and they said they used to
Speaker 1: see me crawling up and down and trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to get up and down. And honestly, it's
Speaker 1: it's sat with me that that maybe that's that's who
Speaker 1: I am. And that's why I said to those no
Speaker 1: laying up guys. I've said before, like some people are
Speaker 1: going to be the best seven iron player in the world,
Speaker 1: so we're going to be the best driver in the world.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to be the toughest dude you've ever met,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's my thing, because like I think Rory
Speaker 1: has been blessed with the driving ability, I think I
Speaker 1: have been blessed with a lot of self determination and um,
Speaker 1: you know that that's just kind of how I tried to,
Speaker 1: you know, make my make my day to day life
Speaker 1: be once I was struggling every day, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the best version of myself I can be and then
Speaker 1: see what happens in X amount of years. Did not
Speaker 1: think it was gonna happen this fast. Is there an
Speaker 1: athlete like when you were growing up or even when
Speaker 1: you were going through kind of your low times, if
Speaker 1: you will, was there an athlete you looked at that
Speaker 1: was like that dude to somebody I can look at
Speaker 1: and be like, he accomplished this. I if I follow
Speaker 1: what he did, or if I kind of like follow
Speaker 1: his his you know, can't give up atitude. I can
Speaker 1: do the same thing as there anybody that you had
Speaker 1: in that in the world like that. Yeah, Kobe, I
Speaker 1: know that he It's not that he struggled with like
Speaker 1: his actual game, but he had those two awful injuries.
Speaker 1: And I watched that show. Uh, his like our episode
Speaker 1: of the Muse, A bunch of times, and I remember
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like getting like physically emotional things
Speaker 1: or like thinking about what he's going through because it
Speaker 1: felt like me like he sat in front of that uh,
Speaker 1: that his locker that day and he's crying, and because
Speaker 1: I could, I could, you know, it's after that, I can,
Speaker 1: I know what he's feeling. He's like, man, I even done,
Speaker 1: And also I don't want to do this again, like
Speaker 1: I can't do this again. And I remember the second
Speaker 1: time I lost my web card. I had worked so
Speaker 1: hard the last time to get my card back, like
Speaker 1: so so hard and and mentally hard, like I can
Speaker 1: do the second do this and I lose it again
Speaker 1: and lose it in a way more like ridiculously bad fashion.
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there thinking like I don't want to
Speaker 1: do this again, like it I really don't, So looking
Speaker 1: at him, I'm like, you know, what, what do you do?
Speaker 1: He sucked it up when the doctor next day, and
Speaker 1: then right after that he goes physical therapies. You're picking
Speaker 1: up Marble was one by one with his feet every
Speaker 1: day for hours and hours. I'm like, this guy is
Speaker 1: obsessed with like what's going to happen the next minute?
Speaker 1: Of my life, and I'm like, I can I can
Speaker 1: do that. I can handle my brain, I can I
Speaker 1: can make myself do these things. Now I can't make myself,
Speaker 1: you know, a better golfer right away. But like we
Speaker 1: can break this down really really really small. So he
Speaker 1: was a huge inspiration for me. His work ethic is
Speaker 1: next to none, and um like that, that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of that. That was the best I can find because honestly,
Speaker 1: what's kind of cool is there aren't a lot of
Speaker 1: stories like me. Uh you know, I think Sean Martin
Speaker 1: tweeted something today about people like nobody's made this little money.
Speaker 1: He's one hard to find stuff like that. I wanted
Speaker 1: to you know, You've got a lot more stuff on
Speaker 1: Kobe and Michael Jordan's and and Tiger Woods and all
Speaker 1: these guys. So it was cool to kind of try
Speaker 1: to dissect what they've done. Are you a very much
Speaker 1: NBA fan or not? Really? Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 1: I like, you know, we're gonna be all all basketball
Speaker 1: just from now on all I'm doing well, well, Max,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, Like that was it was It
Speaker 1: was it was fun to watch. Um. I mean, I
Speaker 1: you know, I could tell by social people are rooting
Speaker 1: pretty hard for you, and I think it's I think
Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. And um, do you want
Speaker 1: to do another titleist? Read? Do you think? Are you
Speaker 1: pretty good on that? Just just give them your give
Speaker 1: him your your version of the pro v read, Hey
Speaker 1: go get a prov Yeah, Hey, hey this is what
Speaker 1: I Yeah, i'd tell people this. Hey, if it can
Speaker 1: fix my goal, you go buy a couple of sleep
Speaker 1: I mean, why not? All right, Max, I appreciate it. Yeah, thanks,