WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: In The City Reunion 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.880 Welcome to pod meets Tworld, a podcast that somehow began 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.920 with Dancing with the Stars, continued through Castle's Traders, strategic deception, 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.000 and because our producers, along with many of our listeners, 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.439 apparently enjoy watching too confused middle aged men struggle through 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.760 wildly successful reality television. We have arrived at a place 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:32.120 neither of us understands Bravo, specifically in the city. And 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:33.839 we thought we were done within the city, but in 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.960 the city wasn't done with us? Will I know? Usually 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.480 these shows involved a game, a competition to cash, prize, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.720 a goal, but this one's different. No challenges, no murder, mystery, 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:49.120 no judges, no dance scores, just wealthy adults attending parties 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.720 are actually not even at this time, just wealthy adults 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:52.640 standing around. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.720 Not even standing city city again, talking about things that 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.560 other people have said about them. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.920 We are right or Strong, a man who prefer stories 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.400 with structure, themes and an ending. And Will Ferdell, who 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.440 was told there might be humor among the cocktails and betrayals. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.880 I don't think that's turned out to be true. New 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.399 join us as we finish a season of social warfare, 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.360 passive aggression, luxury apartments and confessionals, delivered with the gravity 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:22.160 of international diplomacy. This is the last Podmates Tworld Metropolitan mess. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.760 How you feeling, Will, I'm glad it's over. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.080 Yeah, this is just not for me. It's just not 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:27.840 for me, I know. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.960 I and our last in the City recap of the 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.480 final episode. I was feeling pretty good about in the City. Actually, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:35.440 I was feeling better. 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:36.720 How you feel after the reunion? 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.280 The reunion killed it for me? Hill reunion just I 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.200 just I didn't want this to exist. I didn't want 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.679 the reunion to exist, right because that feeling that I 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.200 had gotten with that good will that had been built 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.680 up by that Thanksgiving episode, which was you know, I 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.480 started to feel like, oh, you know, this is like 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.120 a Slice of life show, and these people are ultimately 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.680 friends and it's not that big of a deal, and 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.280 you know, the producers and the editors milk this for 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.559 like drama, but actually this is all kind of small 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.040 events in these people's lives. They're gonna forget about this 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.920 and move on. But then to come together and to 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.840 have this host too. I don't know who this. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.640 Guy is, and he's the face of Bravo. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.240 He's like the guy who started this whole thing. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.959 Yeah, he really, I mean talk about stirring the pot. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:19.760 I mean, I know it's his job. I know it's 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.880 his job, So I don't blame him personally. It's not 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.440 about that, but it's the idea that you would bring 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.560 all these people back and just like reopen wounds. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.880 That's the point, that's the point of all these shows is. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.079 Yes, I was like guys, I thought we had kind 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.400 of healed, and I got to the point where I 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.600 kind of liked everybody, and then now I'm at the 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.560 point where I don't like anybody. Yes, exactly like anybody. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.560 I've said this from the beginning and I stick by it. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:50.000 These are children, These are children who are sitting there. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:51.480 I don't blame them, will. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.359 Oh, I blame them entirely. Oh, I think it is No, I. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.480 Think it's entirely the structure of the show, the way 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.400 that they approach it. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.600 I mean, it's their job, but this is what they want. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.040 I know. That's why I don't like them. That's why 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.200 I don't like them, not because they're gossiping. It's because 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.600 they're showing up and collecting money to do this, and 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.440 they're choosing to do things like this reunion and keep 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:17.200 playing this game, and I feel like, well, then you know, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.800 so when they talk about like the real emotion that 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.760 has to be behind this, you know that you have divorces, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.079 you have sure relationships ending, you have children coming into 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.680 the world, and that this is how you're making your 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.840 money and how you're choosing to do it just bums 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.600 me out. And I feel sorry for them to a 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.640 certain extent because I'm not I'm not one hundred percent 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:42.280 sure you can possibly know how much you're signing up 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:43.880 for when you especially because a lot of them have 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.920 been on this for ten years or whatever, like I 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.680 don't know if they've really thought it through right. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.480 But if you don't think something through and then you 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.080 know how it's affecting your life, you don't stay on 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.680 it for ten years and then do a spin off 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:55.120 show of it. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:56.600 This is what they want. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.560 This is an entire group of people in the world 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.600 now who want to be influencers, who want to be 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.640 reality show people who want to be. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:03.960 Paid for me, me, me, me, me. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:05.920 This is I want you to look at me the 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:09.000 whole time and I'm always right or this, And then 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.600 they have conversations like again, I've I've always maintained that 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.000 if you if you just take a transcript of the 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.360 conversations and you then take a transcript of conversations between 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.480 twelve year olds, you would not be able to tell 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:24.359 which is which. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.760 I think there's a version of this where you don't 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.680 do this reunion stuff and you don't you don't allow 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.039 people to have tabloids and you just do like a 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.160 more like a like a dramedy, midlife crisis sort of 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.200 dramedy where you follow a group of friends like this. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.080 I'm really interested in that show. Like, you know, do 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.240 you remember the Seven Up documentaries? Did you ever hear 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:43.680 about those? 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:44.120 No? 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.160 They were It was a British series of documentaries where 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.560 they followed people every seven years of their life, So 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.800 every seven years they would do another feature film documentary. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:54.600 On the same people. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.600 So kay, So you starting with when they were born, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.280 and then when they were seven, and then when they 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.520 were fourteen, and then Andy, You're right, it's really cool 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.320 and like every you know, and they're still doing it 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.840 as far as I know, Like, these people are still 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.640 alive and they've been followed some of the you know, 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.440 they're all like from the same little neighbor. I love 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.200 that idea. I actually haven't watched that many of those 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.120 documentary Yeah, and I feel like there's a version of 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.000 In the City that kind of gave me those feelings, 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.279 like when they had their friends giving, where I was like, oh, like, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.080 these people have been there a lot together and like 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.080 they're gonna be you know, and even I will say 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.279 in this reunion, the way that Kyle and Amanda still 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.720 have this like bond and the sense of like friendship. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.520 I was like, there's a version of this where you 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.360 can re edit and these people won't wouldn't come off 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.840 as awful. But of course, but. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.839 That's not what it's about. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:41.320 Drama. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:42.719 They built it that, you know. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.040 The second and this is the thing, this is what 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.400 just gives me the ick every time, is the second. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.440 Somebody has a horrible time in their life that the 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:51.360 tabloids find about. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:51.920 You get a. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:56.799 Drunk driving, you are divorced, somebody's cheating on somebody. These 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:01.960 producers are salivating, Thank God this is happening, because it's 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.440 just going to give us ratings and that I find 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:05.240 that really icky. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:06.279 I just find it icky. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.280 And so to then dress them all up, put him 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.760 in makeup, sit him across from each other and then say, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.160 remember what she said about you. Well she also said this, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.119 let's find the clip. It's just I just it gives 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:18.760 me such the. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.240 It's literally like, let's let's let's look at the clips 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.360 of all the conflicts you had this last year. Yeah, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.480 just bring them all back up. And I was like, oh, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.760 is that all we're doing. Yes, that's all we're doing. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:29.120 Yeah. 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.880 Well it starts off with what I thought an optimistic 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.479 note was Andy Cohen making the white dress joke, and 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.040 I was like, you know what, if it's stays in 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.599 this time were just bantering about the things that happened, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.040 I would have loved it, because that's what I kind 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.880 of expected. Or we tear about where their lives we're 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.640 at now, or what had happened, or an update. Instead, No, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.040 it becomes kind of just reflections yep, all the stuff. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:50.520 Yep. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.039 So we hear about everybody's pregnancy. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.800 Great, congratulations everybody, it's awesome. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.920 And Gavin's had a spike in business that he's noticed Georgia, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.560 I can't answer a question about who was at boat Dogs. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.440 And then Amanda get into the whole and even this 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.800 was a little annoying because they didn't really kind of 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.880 explain it. It was like they sort of assumed that 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:16.160 you would watched the Summer House reunion, which I did 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.200 not watch. Did you you didn't watch that? Yeah, so 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.240 I didn't really know when they kept referencing like what 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.520 had happened at that reunion and how Amanda was treated 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.840 or reacted. But apparently it seems like she had not 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.840 a great time on that show and everybody kind of 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.160 piled on her and she react. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:33.559 Now, that was the one you remember. I think Maddie 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:34.960 came on and told us about that one. 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.320 That was the one where they she literally like people 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.440 were accusing her of being on medication or something like. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.360 It came off so cruel and yell, all that kind 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:43.720 of stuff. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.120 Yet, well, that's what Andy brings up here, that she 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.200 was on beta blockers or whatever. We'll find out how 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:54.280 Kyle's asshole is doing. Yes, finally recovered important Andrea and 0:07:54.400 --> 0:08:00.200 Lexi expecting, oh and Danielle also expecting. All right, we 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:01.160 get into the Amanda. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:01.720 Kyle of it all. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.240 There's some sort of olive spitting photograph. I don't understand 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:05.800 what this was. 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.160 I guess there was a picture of them somewhere where 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.640 people thought she was just spitting into his mouth. But 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:12.560 I guess they were doing a joke of spitting an 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:13.520 olive into another olive. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.840 I don't teach their own what it is. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.600 And then this is where Andy brings up this whole 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.000 beta blocker drugged in question or drug question, and she 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.800 insists that she was just emotionally shut down because that's 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.520 her her reaction to her own Kyle fighting, which we've seen. Yeah, 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.640 everyone everyone gets asked how they feel about Amanda and West, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.640 and everybody's pissed off, or, as Danielle puts it, disappointed 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.120 because her whisper Amanda would be that she would take 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.600 some time alone. But Amanda can't go back and change that. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.320 No one has hung out with Amanda and West. Surprise, surprise. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.439 Gavin says that they know better than to come into 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.239 his bar, which I was like, man. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.199 Yeah, okay, there was one. 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.000 There was one comment here I think it comes up 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.640 right around here that that really spoke a lot about it, 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.320 where somebody said to her that all the stuff you 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:03.000 hated about Kyle, yes West, is that times ten. Yeah, 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.680 And she's like, well, I haven't seen that. It's like okay, yeah, 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:07.360 it's like, oh my god, yeah. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.920 Yeah, which is crazy. Yeah, she can't say that they 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.320 are in love, and they don't say I love you 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:17.280 to each other. I also don't really care. Nope. I 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.440 was like, why are we talking about West? He's barely 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:19.880 a part of. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.600 This show, say half the scandal wasn't on the show exactly. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.000 It's so interesting that we're spending so much. It's just like, 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.120 and this is this weird thing where the show is. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.480 It's like, it's like, and this is the thing about 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.840 this kind of reality TV. It's like these people's lives 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:38.240 and the tabloids, it's like their social media, the reality show, 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:44.400 their products that they sell, and the like comments that 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.400 other people make online all are telling the story, you 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.760 know what I mean. It's like, there's not it's. 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.199 Not the show, right. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.760 It's the stuff all around. It is so like when 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:55.840 you're watching the show, you're just getting the tip of 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.480 the iceberg. R. And I think that part of the 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.480 reason that you and I are you know, a little 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.040 distant chat with it is that we are keeping up 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.640 with all those other sources, you know, right, and like, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.640 but I think it's like it's almost like these shows, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.160 and maybe this is true of a lot of the 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:14.520 Bravo stuff or reality it's like what is that word for? 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.760 Like when they're like games in real life, like games 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.960 like video games that people play in real life. It's 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.120 something that's sort of pop kind of but it's like, 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.280 but people do it. There's there's been attempts to do this, 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.000 like where you virtual reality, No, not virtual reality. I 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.800 think it's like reality games. It's like where you you 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.520 follow a YouTuber and you solve a mystery in real 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.040 life and like the you. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.720 Know, augmented reality. No, I know what you're I know 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.600 the one you're talking about. It It's like it's yes, 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:42.800 I do, I know what you're talking about. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.480 There have been attempts to do this, and they've never 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.840 been hugely successful. But the idea is that if you 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.400 watch this TV show and then you play this video game, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.520 they like correlate or like if you follow this YouTuber, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.560 it is a you know and like I feel like 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.000 the Bravo versu is that it's like you it's never 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.280 just the show. You have to watch the show, you 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.480 have to follow all the people on social media, and 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.640 then you have to read all the page six or 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:06.240 whatever it is. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.280 This is just a soap opera without having to pay 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.480 the actors the same amount, right, I mean that's really all. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.440 This is the modern day soap opera. 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.120 Do you think they make less than soap opera actors, Well, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:17.680 I mean, at the same time, think about it, they 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:18.240 might make less. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.800 They might make the same money as the actors. But 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.360 you don't have to pay any writers. You don't have 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:22.920 to pay I mean, it's like you don't have to 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.680 pay the studio. You don't have to pay any of 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.480 that kind of stuff. We just film a whole bunch 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.720 of people. You left the drama. You edit just around 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.360 all the drama. I'm sure the producers are injecting drama. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.240 Oh did you know this person said this to you? 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.600 And so this is just this is the new I mean, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.520 there's only one or two soap operas really, the big 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:39.280 ones that are left. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.080 So this is just these are the new soap operas. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.559 So Amanda says that West is supportive. He's not ten 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.840 times worse than Kyle, as Nick says, Kyle feels that 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.600 he was supportive and that he still is. And he 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.079 actually says everyone here still supports you and gives her 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.520 credit for taking it on the chin. They all complement 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.800 Kyle on how dignified he is, and Amanda says, you 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.560 know that they're still friends and that they still have 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:03.440 love for one another. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.200 Well, it sounds an awful lot like and again I 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.400 think somebody brings us up later in the episode, but 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.079 it sounds an awful lot like if you just watch 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:17.120 Summer House, most people ninety percent of the people were 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.760 team Amanda, like Kyle was awful to her, and then 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.960 when this happened, everything changed. And now this guy who 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.000 they even sense like you were right about to be canceled, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.880 is now the man. So he's probably in a way 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.240 kind of loving this where it's like, hey, now I'm single, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.080 she's not around anymore, she looks like shit, and I 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:38.680 can go out and date whoever I want to. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.320 And it's like exactly what they talk about next, they're like, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.800 what is it like hanging out with single Kyle? And 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.360 he's making out with everybody, and single Kyle is not 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:48.160 all that different. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.079 Dude hasn't had sex in five years? What do you expect? 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.760 So they he's kissing other people and he's having sober 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.320 sex and talking to Amanda about it and they actually 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:03.200 laugh about this together. Interesting. Yeah, Kenny uses the word betrayal, 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.360 but Amanda jumps in to say there was no cheating. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.600 But then they go through that there were only two 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.120 weekends from the statement that Are and Kyle released together 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.280 and then being at some super Bowl event with West. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.200 I don't get it, but anyway, Kyle feels betrayed by 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.880 West because they were boys, they were friends. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.160 Can we get a Maddie because I have a question, Mattie, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:25.280 are you there? Yes? 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.920 Okay, so this super Bowl thing, Amanda denies that she 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.440 and West were together during whatever the super Bowl thing, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.200 but he says they were. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:40.280 Yes, So they have conflicting statements. It's but their mutual 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.520 friend told this. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:43.920 Is I think we went over this when she told 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.880 Dave Portnoy, like their mutual friend told Dave Portnoy. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.000 Oh yeah, Amanda and West are an item, and that's 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.800 how things. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.720 Started to blow up. It is. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.640 It's so stupid that, honestly, it's still being talked about 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:57.319 at this point. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.120 It's like, you know, it was just pointless. It was 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.440 like this is summerhouse. It's not in this It's just 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.640 too much. So yeah, essentially, Amanda in West have conflicting statements. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.320 Okay, but do most people believe that they were actually 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.280 together before she says they were actually together. 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:13.320 Oh yeah, for sure. 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:14.720 Okay, that's what I figured. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.760 Well, the good news La La in the Valley says 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.160 that Kyle is great in bed. These are the things 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:21.720 you need to know. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.400 This is La La Kent parent another Bravos. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.680 I don't know, but there's a whole bunch of in 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.880 jokes about Kyle and who he's slept with. I don't 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.360 know who they're referencing. There's someone ten years younger, but 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:38.440 who's well read. Lindsay, you'll be happy to know is 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.000 still with Frank the Milkman, and guess what will She 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.240 is not looking for a serious relationship. No, she wants 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.040 to have fun with So Lindsay has a change. This 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.440 season saw Lindsay wanted to have a good time and 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.720 find somebody like Frank the Milkman. Sounds like she's she's 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.280 still still in the same place. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.000 Really, because I thought they were just gonna sit up 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.040 and have wonderful, in depth conversations with Frank the Milkman. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.080 I'll deliver the milk over that way, over that way. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:07.400 Excuse excuse me, ma'am. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.880 Georgina says that Frank is ambitious, which I have yet 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.440 to really see but Dustin and Dustin would have also 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.520 been great if he lived in town. Vaughn's not convinced 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.960 about Frank. Then, Danielle says she's not going to come 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.320 in on Lindsey's relationships anymore. She has learned her less smart. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.040 She has she smart because she's still here with of course, 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.400 her husband Marty. Okay, Georgina is not currently seeing anyone, 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.880 but she is ready, and she reiterates what she said 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.080 in the finale, which is that she now believes that 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.240 divorce might be better for her kids after hearing from 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:39.960 a friend who grew up with divorce parents. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.440 I have a reality question for you. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.520 Do you think so like, if they bring back this 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.320 this show for season two, which it seems like it's 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.760 kind of a foregone conclusion that they're going to, do 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.440 you think if somebody like Georgina is ready to date, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.720 do you think Bravo and the show and producers will 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.080 actively go out and find men to bring on to 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.520 the show as like another character. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:58.840 Do you think that's the thing they do where it's 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:00.000 like we set up dates for you. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.960 Yes, well no, but they do it through the characters. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:06.280 That's why remember Andrea introduces Frank the Milkman to Lindsay. Right, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.000 So that's how they do it. They find the people 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.480 on the show. They're like, hey, do you know anybody 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.040 who could set up with Georgina, because then it's with 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.160 in show, you know that you have like somebody playing matchmaker, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.400 because then they also have to get permission because let's 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.360 say she goes on a date or two with somebody 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.840 and then that somebody is like, I'm not going to 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.480 go on a reality show. Then the whole show misses 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.320 out on her dating life. They can't cover it. 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:28.880 I think that's one of the things that happened with 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.240 with Lindsay's ex is that Lindsay was like, got pregnant 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:32.640 by this guy and he's like, I don't want to 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.080 be I'm not gonna be on a reality show. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.800 Yeah, yeah, which makes perfect sense to me. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:37.920 That of course me too. 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.240 I think Owen wishes he had made that. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.840 Same He is. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.840 Way over his head, way over his head, and Danielle. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.760 Should have just taken the opportunity to met an Irish 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:49.400 guy and I'm. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.080 Out of the thank you very much. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.840 Well, maybe she makes too much money. I don't know. 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.400 All right, Well, Lindsay gives advice for new moms to 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.960 just go with it and that she's here for all 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:03.360 of you, including danielleb he doesn't want her around. Georgina's 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.879 advice is give yourself grace and love, and she didn't 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.040 even pee before running to her first baby, but with 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.040 the second she was way more casual. I've heard this 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.920 from every parent I know, and I only had one kid, 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.920 so we were just anxious, like probably over the intentive 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.360 because but yeah, but everyone says with the second one, 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.359 you just check out, and it's actually much healthier for everyone. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.680 And I'm sure I think that the joke my parents 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.080 used to make was at me as the third kid 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.160 is like, oh, by the third kid, they're juggling knives 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.440