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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm your host
Speaker 2: Rich Barah our guest tonight, doctor Joseph Lumpkin. We're talking
Speaker 2: about the Bible and specifically some of the Dead Sea
Speaker 2: scrolls and why when they found them they decided to
Speaker 2: leave them out of the Bible. We're kind of talking
Speaker 2: about the Book of Genesis and the watchers specifically, what
Speaker 2: were the watchers' jobs just to observe humanity?
Speaker 3: Good question, we're not told, but that seems to be
Speaker 3: the name itself. Watchers would would infer that, imply that,
Speaker 3: and so you have to ask you, so what what
Speaker 3: were they watching? Well, there's there's just a couple of
Speaker 3: things that you would watch. You would you would watch
Speaker 3: the actions to record sins and and blessings, or maybe
Speaker 3: they were the Jane goodall of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, reporting back to our species. So why did
Speaker 2: they Why did they if they're watchers, why did they
Speaker 2: leave their posts? Because they they obviously upset God.
Speaker 3: Yes, So it's an interesting thing that we have this
Speaker 3: drift in the very first part of the Bible, where
Speaker 3: God starts out being called l and then by the
Speaker 3: end of Genesis he's called Yahweh, which is usually adam
Speaker 3: Ny or Lord. So it looks like there was a
Speaker 3: drift there between the gods. Polytheism was I mean the Bible.
Speaker 3: The Bible is polytheistic, whether you kind of realize it
Speaker 3: or not. So there there are these gods for to us.
Speaker 3: You know, you always said, have no other god before me, which.
Speaker 2: He's acknowledging, and Bayl comes out a lot. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm saying that right.
Speaker 3: He does. That was part of the pantheon of the
Speaker 3: Canaanite gods. And what we think is that Yah or
Speaker 3: Yahweh was added into that pantheon by the Israelites, that
Speaker 3: was their god. And then when L was the main
Speaker 3: god to the Canaanites. Things things kind of drift in religion.
Speaker 3: They you have cross pollination. I guess that's a good
Speaker 3: way of putting it. We borrow from different things. We
Speaker 3: can see it in Christianity, for example, the halo was
Speaker 3: taken from the sun worshipers and things like that. But
Speaker 3: to answer your question, those are the two main concerns
Speaker 3: of people that are watching. So my guess, and again
Speaker 3: anything could be wrong. My guess is that this was
Speaker 3: an experiment l was conducting it. The watchers were here
Speaker 3: for a very long time, and they came down and
Speaker 3: they destroyed the experiment. You have to ask yourself, why
Speaker 3: was it just lust or were they trying to contaminate
Speaker 3: the gene pool so that this does not come to
Speaker 3: fruition the way that Elle wanted. So let me read
Speaker 3: you something really quick. This is we're heading towards Christmas,
Speaker 3: so I going to tell you a real quick Christmas story.
Speaker 3: Take about two minutes.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 3: So there's a guy who I'm going to tell you
Speaker 3: a story about a guy. Miraculous life, fantastic life. Born
Speaker 3: in a remote area of the Roman Empire, his mother
Speaker 3: was told that he would be divine. She was visited
Speaker 3: by a divine being and told this. The birth was
Speaker 3: accompanied by signs and wonders. The guy became an itinerant preacher.
Speaker 3: He taught men to leave behind the world and pick
Speaker 3: up the spiritual. The wealth was in the spirit, not
Speaker 3: in the things. He was acknowledged as a man that
Speaker 3: was wise and could do miracles. They saw him heal
Speaker 3: the sick and race the dead. They believed he was
Speaker 3: the son of God. He was tried by the Romans killed,
Speaker 3: he ascended bodily into heaven, where he remains today. After
Speaker 3: his death, he appeared to his disciples. His followers wrote
Speaker 3: books about him that you can still read today. And
Speaker 3: of course I'm talking about Apollonius of Tyena, not Jesus.
Speaker 3: Not Jesus. Really, this guy was born in fifteen AD
Speaker 3: and died in about one hundred AD. And then we
Speaker 3: have this thing, this rock that was found in two
Speaker 3: thousand that's never been found before. There was a rock
Speaker 3: with ink on it that's never been found in this area.
Speaker 3: You usually have a papyrus, or you have vellum or
Speaker 3: animal skins. So this is a rock. It has ink
Speaker 3: on it. It's in the Dead Sea area because it
Speaker 3: is below sea level and totally dry. The thing was
Speaker 3: stood at the test of time. Written on the rock,
Speaker 3: which is called the Vision of Gabriel, is a story
Speaker 3: about Gabriel standing over a corpse. The corpse is putrefying,
Speaker 3: turning to dung, and Gabriel says, Prince of Peace, dung
Speaker 3: of the rocky crevass. In three days, you will live again,
Speaker 3: because I Gabriel commanded. So in this period of time
Speaker 3: right around the time of Christ, we had several Messianic
Speaker 3: figures that were doing miracles, or so people thought. We
Speaker 3: have them that supposedly were resurrected bodily and went to heaven.
Speaker 3: We have these stories that are parallels. And I am
Speaker 3: wondering if this is where Elle's experiment was going. Was
Speaker 3: he trying to improve this race and started two hundred
Speaker 3: thousand years ago from apes and raise us up to
Speaker 3: be christ conscious at this time? Have you ever heard
Speaker 3: of the axial age?
Speaker 2: I have not tell me about that.
Speaker 3: Well, we kind of remained in uh I would call
Speaker 3: it a spiritual purgatory for the first few hundred thousand
Speaker 3: of our years, and we were running around trying to
Speaker 3: please gods that we didn't know of what they wanted.
Speaker 3: So we would kill things, kill people, killed children, kill animals.
Speaker 3: I really don't know why we thought that that would
Speaker 3: appease God.
Speaker 2: I think it speaking it was worldwide though.
Speaker 3: It was worldwide, yes, and I think it speaks more
Speaker 3: to ours that it is that that does to our deity.
Speaker 3: You know, so around in a span of eight hundred years,
Speaker 3: which is just not even a blanquot eyes an atom
Speaker 3: of time cosmologically, we woke up, we had Latsu, Buddha, Confucius,
Speaker 3: zo Astor, and all the way to Jesus. And these
Speaker 3: men began a revolutionary religious concept of internal religion. God
Speaker 3: is in you. The Book of Thomas, found in oxy Rinchus, says,
Speaker 3: if they tell you that Jesus that heaven is in
Speaker 3: the air, the birds will get there before you. If
Speaker 3: they tell you it's below you in the sea, the
Speaker 3: fish are already there. But I tell you the Kingdom
Speaker 3: of God is within you and all around you. And
Speaker 3: that is I think where El had us headed. So
Speaker 3: that's just my take on it.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting take. So this the book of Enoch,
Speaker 2: Why do you think it was hidden instead of promoted
Speaker 2: our passed down like the Bible that we know. Why
Speaker 2: did he get, you know, hurried away into a cave?
Speaker 3: Well, I have two answers for that. First of all,
Speaker 3: it really is canon in only one, well two churches.
Speaker 3: The nations of Eritrea and Ethiopia used to be one nation,
Speaker 3: and they split a short time ago, so now there's
Speaker 3: two nations there. Within their Orthodox churches of Eritrea and Ethiopia,
Speaker 3: the books of Jubilees and Enoch are canon in their
Speaker 3: broader canon. They have eighty one books in their canon.
Speaker 3: Think of it this way. I tell my friends who
Speaker 3: argue with me about the sixty six books, Do you
Speaker 3: really think that God said less as time goes on?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, he did not. We we keep cutting things out,
Speaker 3: we keep making decisions. But you're Catholic, you have seventy
Speaker 3: three books in your Bible because you have the Apocryphone.
Speaker 3: If you're Protestant, you have sixty six. If you're Orthodox
Speaker 3: you have a couple more. If you're Ethiopic you have
Speaker 3: eighty one.
Speaker 2: Interesting, well, because we're Catholic, we actually just read the bulletin.
Speaker 2: We don't even read the Bible. Are the butts off
Speaker 2: of that? We just want to see who's advertising on
Speaker 2: the back. Let's get to some phone calls. Oh wait,
Speaker 2: before we do, though, before we do, you promised me
Speaker 2: a story about Goliath. David and Goliath, because we were
Speaker 2: talking about giants and they survive the flood and Goliath
Speaker 2: apparently as well.
Speaker 3: If you read really carefully, in Genesis six, it says
Speaker 3: there were giants in the earth in those days and afterwards. Yes,
Speaker 3: And I don't know why we just ignore the afterwards part.
Speaker 3: So there are a couple of bloodlines that are possible.
Speaker 3: We know that Noah's bloodline was pure, but those boys
Speaker 3: ham Chim and Jaya, they married and they had babies,
Speaker 3: and their wives could have been very very likely contaminated
Speaker 3: with the bloodline of the giants. That's number one. Number two,
Speaker 3: there is a very old story and apocophal story about
Speaker 3: King Ogg. King Ogg is mentioned several times in the Bible.
Speaker 3: He was the king of a nation of giants. They
Speaker 3: said that he was so large, when, of course one
Speaker 3: apocabal story just exaggerates the heck out of it, but
Speaker 3: he was about thirteen and a half feet tall. One
Speaker 3: story says that he managed to hold on to the
Speaker 3: arc and plead with Noah to allow him to live,
Speaker 3: and he would serve Noah's family. So we have that
Speaker 3: bloodline that could have survived these And I'm gonna throw
Speaker 3: something out here that nobody has this, This is incredible.
Speaker 3: My brother in law is a doctor. I came in
Speaker 3: one day and I said, he, what do you know
Speaker 3: about the H H blood factor? And he looked at
Speaker 3: me like I had two heads rich and that. He said,
Speaker 3: I've never heard of that, There's no such thing. I said, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's A B, A B and O and then there's
Speaker 3: h H. And I'm thinking this is so extraordinary. It
Speaker 3: only occurs in the Middle East India. In the Middle
Speaker 3: East India, Pakistan and over toward Iraq and Iran. It's
Speaker 3: the only place you'll find it, which happens to be
Speaker 3: coincidentally where they landed. So, I, you know, just throwing
Speaker 3: this out here. Look up H H blood type and
Speaker 3: you will find it is extremely rare, but it's still around.
Speaker 3: I wonder if that was an anomaly from that particular
Speaker 3: inbreeding or Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, well we all know was glath like part
Speaker 2: of a group of giants that made it past?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that what happened?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Yes, his mother was a giant. All of his brothers
Speaker 3: were giants, and they all had an anomaly. They were
Speaker 3: all polydactyl They all had six fingers and six toes,
Speaker 3: so they had twelve digits fingers and toes. It's kind
Speaker 3: of an interesting thing, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard that before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just in there. I just had to ferret
Speaker 3: it out.
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