WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: The Traitors 404

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to pod meets Twirld, a podcast from two guys

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<v Speaker 1>who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So

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<v Speaker 1>now we turn to Traders, another show I've never seen,

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<v Speaker 1>while Will is convinced he could win it. We are

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<v Speaker 1>Wilfred Ellen Ryder Strong, two best friends, won a TV expert,

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<v Speaker 1>one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars join us as

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<v Speaker 1>we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, and

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<v Speaker 1>over the top wardrobe choices.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pod meets Twirld.

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<v Speaker 1>Trading places dramatic cloak reveal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can't just take their cloak off. The turn

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<v Speaker 2>is good to do the turn. That's my that's my emperor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the Emperor, Young Skywalker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid that delector Shield will be fully of operation.

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<v Speaker 1>Visual jokes on the podcast so many, I know, look

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<v Speaker 1>at this space, I can make all right, Traders. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I am I'm in deep, I'm sucked in. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also I'm having lots.

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<v Speaker 2>Of strange feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and we can talk about it, stuck it out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like here, I've just had a complicated relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with reality TV in general. I was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>people who really really hated it too. Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>partly because it you know, it was killing our industry

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<v Speaker 1>like it is, yeah it still is. But when we

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<v Speaker 1>were finishing boy Mes World, reality was ascendant, Like do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, it was like a big deal that the

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<v Speaker 1>game shows were coming back because Who Wants to Be

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<v Speaker 1>a Millionaire was taken off and they decided to put

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<v Speaker 1>it on every night, and so like shows, like traditional

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<v Speaker 1>television shows with and acting and all of the things

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<v Speaker 1>was too expensive and those jobs started going away. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we had the strike, the writer's strike, the old

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<v Speaker 1>writer strike. There's been so many now, I know anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, so I was always pretty negative and

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<v Speaker 1>you know about it for that reason, but that also

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<v Speaker 1>just the culture, the culture of reality TV I never

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<v Speaker 1>really liked, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree it's there's there's very few traditional quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>reality TV shows that are upbeat and happy. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>about backstabbing and drunkenness and you know, getting arrested. Sue

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<v Speaker 2>and I, because we're gluttons for punishment, are rewatching Jersey Shore,

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<v Speaker 2>the original series of See that's that's kind of magically

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<v Speaker 2>wonderfully awe.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I guess I like, you know, Survivor was

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<v Speaker 1>the only time I really embraced it. Was like, while

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<v Speaker 1>my wife was pregnant for whatever reason, she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's watch Survivor and I started getting into itvance So

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<v Speaker 1>that was eleven years ago a half years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I got really into it and I could see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see it as like a sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>physical challenge that was cool, and it never felt I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, that show always felt wholesome in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that other reality shows didn't anyway. Long way to say,

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<v Speaker 1>during this episode of Traders, I found myself wanting Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Rapaport to be awful because it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Entertaining, right and it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the part of my brain that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like indulgence, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It felt toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, I hope they don't kick Michael

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<v Speaker 1>off because I really like watching him just get a

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<v Speaker 1>dick and like say stupid things. And in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 1>I was liking him for things that I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>in real life at all, Like I don't like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I know that that's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>standard reality show like viewing mode.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's really awful for us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's awful for us as individuals, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really awful for us as a culture because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's part of the reason our politics are

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<v Speaker 1>the way they are right now. It's like we're almost

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<v Speaker 1>like it's excitement and energy more than like being a

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<v Speaker 1>good person or being clear about what you're saying. It's

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<v Speaker 1>more just like, let's just watch fireworks, like human fireworks,

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<v Speaker 1>like bombs going off. And I just hate that I

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<v Speaker 1>started to feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, well, it's it's also it's so much easier

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<v Speaker 2>to hate than it is to love. It's so much

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<v Speaker 2>easier to destroy a house than it is to build one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the way it is. And so we're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of always appealing to the lowest common denominator, which is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons that Sue and I really have

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<v Speaker 2>our reality TV other than Traders, which is a total

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<v Speaker 2>guilty pleasure thing is really skill based or talent based,

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<v Speaker 2>right like chef shows, chef shows or maybe an occasional

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<v Speaker 2>singing show like Dancing with Stars. Was that was interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to me, like how you have to learn the process

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<v Speaker 2>and learn all about this kind of subworld and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff that was really cool. And that's one other

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<v Speaker 2>reason why we love the Great British Big Show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just people baking that are helping each other. It's really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is, I mean, again with all the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about, Michael, most people don't go to NASCAR

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<v Speaker 2>to watch the cars go around in the circle. You

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<v Speaker 2>go to watch a wreck, of course, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you're That's what it is with this and you're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there you're hoping it's funny. An article came out I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to misquote it, and I don't know who wrote it,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, essentially all the news nowadays. I read

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<v Speaker 2>it once online, so now I'm talking about it as

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<v Speaker 2>if it was a real thing. But somebody wrote an

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<v Speaker 2>article about how great it was to have quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>TV Villains back with Michael talking about Michael Rappermarkt where

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<v Speaker 2>it was like it was a joy to have this back,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's it's an interest. This show is

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting because it's like it it seems to constantly

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, really what it is. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>role playing game. This is it's still playing D and

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<v Speaker 1>D it's a murder mystery. Yes, weekend night weekend right,

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<v Speaker 1>So there, so they're all role playing, and like I

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<v Speaker 1>think that there's a there's an element of that which

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<v Speaker 1>you know obviously like come in with his costumes and

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<v Speaker 1>then everything. They're all kind of leaning into this like

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<v Speaker 1>arch villainy sort of fun thing. Yeah, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes it okay when they're kind of but

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<v Speaker 1>they also, like in this opening of this episode, when

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like mean to each other, they say things

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>I would I wouldn't be okay, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody said that to me, even in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of a role play, like I'd be like, dude, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when well, we just get into it, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they murder her in this and she's like

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<v Speaker 1>you bitch, yeah, and I'm like, is she's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not joking.

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<v Speaker 2>I by accident watched thirty seconds of Housewives once because

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<v Speaker 2>I walked into a room and literally the door locked

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<v Speaker 2>behind me and I couldn't get out fast enough. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's but that's what it is. It'sh drunken women backstabbing

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<v Speaker 2>each other, talking about their husbands, talking about their families.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you said that about me. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>worst of society. And the problem is we are making

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<v Speaker 2>them that this is what this is. This is D

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<v Speaker 2>and D role playing game coupled with alcohol, coupled with

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<v Speaker 2>the unwarranted arrogance of quote unquote celebrity. So you put

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<v Speaker 2>it all together and it's just a beautiful mess of

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<v Speaker 2>an awful symphony of gorgeousness. So yeah, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>it does. It sucks you and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>watch and you can't look away. It's awful, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the breakfast room, Ron was the first faithful

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<v Speaker 1>tied to a tree from the night before who showed

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<v Speaker 1>up and wasn't murdered. They started asking him questions about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart by the way, you got to see if everybody

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<v Speaker 2>gets their story straight, totally, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Lisa walked in and she is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the traders and really a bad liar.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they I was like, maybe she told the

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<v Speaker 2>best story in the world, and they just edited it

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<v Speaker 2>to me like she couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the same thought because they added all those

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<v Speaker 1>extra pauses.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean that was no one would have believed

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<v Speaker 2>her ever ever with that story it was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>come up with make up something they can get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was bad, but but yeah, she just

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<v Speaker 1>she also just like overdid it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's like talking too much. Yes, like you

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<v Speaker 2>are a lie. Simple it's the easiest thing to do,

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<v Speaker 2>right or simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe no one really caught onto it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, like you're saying, I think there was some

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<v Speaker 1>selective editing going on to make it.

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<v Speaker 2>But even if you just took what she was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the way she was getting so into it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, uh okay, yeah, and uh oh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Ron had this this whole thing about how he heard

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<v Speaker 1>light footsteps, which is actually pretty good, like yes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Heavy guy is going to make different footsteps than a

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<v Speaker 2>light little woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And there were there are two women and that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But immediately he picked the wrong person, went for Mara,

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<v Speaker 1>who's like even tinier, I guess, but like, yeah, but it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a good theory, you know. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's her. I don't take it. I don't think it's her.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't take it to her. I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>take it to her.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, man, Ron, he is just always on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside of this entire.

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<v Speaker 2>Game now just pissed, like he's just walking around. I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>really get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're all still like bringing up Porsche and him

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<v Speaker 1>like turning on her. But meanwhile he's the only he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually giving evidence, which he did, like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good goal, Like I meanwhile, Colton's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just pointing at people, going I think it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like throwing out theories. But everyone likes him

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<v Speaker 2>better socially.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, do Ron, you know it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little like I don't know, there's a bias. There's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a kind of bias against Ron that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>because watching it, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I like this guy. He's funny. He's like he's

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<v Speaker 2>the Danielle of this and they're all dancing with the stars. Judges,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what That's what's going on, because I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you firsthand. Ron Funcius is known as one of

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<v Speaker 3>the nicest guys in comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>He seems like he would be yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes meets World fan. By the way, is he really

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<v Speaker 3>really know that I Have'm friends with run?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Okay, it's so cool. I feel sorry

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<v Speaker 2>for him. Maddie too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching this going like why do they keep going

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<v Speaker 1>up against him? And he's like he doesn't give him

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<v Speaker 1>any reason.

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<v Speaker 2>He how do you play if every time you open

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<v Speaker 2>your mouth somebody thinks that you're you need to be

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off? Which is where it is with him now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like he can't even like, well, here's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>I saw. It's like I don't trust that rong. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, how AMU? Can I even say anything anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess just get there early, eat the smoked salmon

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<v Speaker 2>that apparently everybody wants. Yeah, there's like this low key

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<v Speaker 2>like b plot going through the whole episodes now about

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<v Speaker 2>smoke salmon. I let smoke salmon. You're in Scotland. Just

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<v Speaker 2>go outside. You literally just hold your hand up. But

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<v Speaker 2>if salmon comes into your hand, it's that easy, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>can't they just provide more smokes?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping there's a payoff to this by like the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode there's like another it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a room with salmon, yes, Like all how hard

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<v Speaker 2>of that? They all want smoked salmon. It's pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>it's obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and then Michael Rapperport talks a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>his tone and uh, how he is how he talks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is it is sick. He has a very like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shit talking tone and he just doesn't shut

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<v Speaker 1>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>How long would that last? He's like, I'm gonna change

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<v Speaker 2>my ways. That was like a minute, two minutes? God, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he is a character. Yeah all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well then Eric comes in and he was one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>up for Murder two, and he tells the camera, not

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>He tells the camera that he had heard a laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So immediately I thought this was gonna pay off.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's pretty because, I mean, a laugh

0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.680
<v Speaker 1>is very specific and like he says later in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a musician. But so I was stoked on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, again, that's actual evidence. It's not just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I don't like this person or whatever. It was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yep, all right. It was it was Caroline who

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<v Speaker 1>was killed.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she was still killed for the first jacket

0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.679
<v Speaker 2>she wash it while she was there, that giant with

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<v Speaker 2>the huge shoulder pads. I still think that's why she

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<v Speaker 2>was killed. Eventually, Yeah, I couldn't get over it. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's it, you're out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so I mean I thought this was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a smart move to kill her because they had

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<v Speaker 1>been taking out all the gamers, right and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like time to like kill a housewive to throw the

0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.040
<v Speaker 1>scent off of the housewives, because there's two housewives on

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<v Speaker 1>the trading team.

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<v Speaker 2>We also thought Ron was going to be voted off

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<v Speaker 2>the next day anyway, So two birds with one stone

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of two faithfuls right away, which is it's

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<v Speaker 2>good playing. By the way, rob In is just overalls

0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.160
<v Speaker 2>is turning out to be a genius at this game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it's possible, but all of a sudden,

0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.800
<v Speaker 2>he's turned into Sherlock Holmes out there. Well, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in a great position to be a trader because

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, I think he can be low key, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like he's not anything from

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<v Speaker 1>him Yeah, exactly, So he's playing it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's flying perfectly, flying under the radar. Really well, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>other than one thing, which we'll get into later, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>has even mentioned any of these three as possibilities of

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<v Speaker 2>being traders.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so when they confront, they do a face

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<v Speaker 1>to face murder with Caroline, And this was when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like man, the way they're talking to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she was like, I'll see you at Bravo Con.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa are we going to lose a friendship over this?

0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.520
<v Speaker 2>You wonder that you bitch. What do you think would

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<v Speaker 2>happen if if you and I were on the show

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<v Speaker 2>and I pull off my mask and there's you standing

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<v Speaker 2>there as a trader, I'd be like, you asshole, right,

0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.640
<v Speaker 2>but with a big smile, Yeah, that's true, you know, yeah,

0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.520
<v Speaker 2>of course, of course. And I mean I'm maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>are and this, you know, I'm like probably reading too

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<v Speaker 2>much into it, but I guess also because of what

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<v Speaker 2>happens throughout this episode and the next episode, which we'll

0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.960
<v Speaker 2>talk about, because they both dropped at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it gets right up to the line of

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<v Speaker 2>like is this like really yeah, Like because Ron gets

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<v Speaker 2>into it too. They you know, they're like when he

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<v Speaker 2>later when he's like, I don't want to know about

0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.760
<v Speaker 2>your family, I don't care about your you know, like

0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.959
<v Speaker 2>my family's done your business or something like. We're right

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<v Speaker 2>up to the line of it, and you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>a game, but I guess at the same time, it's

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<v Speaker 2>also a television show. And it's also for two hundred

0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and fifty thousand dollars, right, so it's like it's it's

0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.280
<v Speaker 2>they're playing to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Well, after breakfast, they all they all

0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:19.000
<v Speaker 1>split up, and you know, Ron is pretty much everyone's target.

0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Tiffany is totally pushing for Ron, like not really sure why.

0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Now they've just they're convinced. They're all convinced from the beginning. Yep.

0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile Colton begins gunning for Tiffany, which kind of

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<v Speaker 1>actually makes sense, Like I can understand this his like

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<v Speaker 1>because she is like making decisions and trying to run

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of isn't Candace doing that too?

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<v Speaker 2>At like every roundtable and yet nobody's talking about Candace.

0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, I felt like this episode Candace finally pulled it back.

0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.600
<v Speaker 1>In those first couple of episodes, I was like, lady,

0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you're just making too much of a scene. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be that you're you're the ring leader and everybody sees

0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.120
<v Speaker 1>you being a ring lead, yes, which just seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a bad strategy. No matter what, whether you're a trader

0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>or whether you're a faithful it seems like all you

0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.280
<v Speaker 1>do is put a target on your back when you

0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.720
<v Speaker 1>start pointy fingers. So like Colton and Tiffany both just

0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.400
<v Speaker 1>put themselves out there, and I mean Colton is like

0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.240
<v Speaker 1>both of them are like consciously saying I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>play aggressively.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got but I just don't know if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good move. Like I don't either. I think, fly under

0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the radar and be really good at the challenges. Yes,

0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.360
<v Speaker 2>that's the way to get as far as you can

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<v Speaker 2>in the game, Trader or faithful. Just do keep your

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<v Speaker 2>head down. If you can get a shield, great, but

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<v Speaker 2>if not, become indispensable in all the challenges and keep

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<v Speaker 2>your head down.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the whole shield thing, well we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>it because I didn't know they didn't explain it because

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<v Speaker 1>I guess this has been on previous seasons. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>when we get to that, I had so many questions.

0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I was very upset that I wasn't explained. All right,

0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:55.720
<v Speaker 1>but the mission in this episode is throwing spears at beasts.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing's so great. So do they ever repeat have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen this before?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've seen this one before.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I mean this is like a straight ripoff of

0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the movie wicker Man, like it's flawed like Culty, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like Northern England.

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<v Speaker 2>Spooky out of my effigies.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, the little stalls in the trees. It's full

0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Blair Witch project. I loved it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love how none of the challenges are like

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<v Speaker 2>you got to go find a spear and then put

0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.880
<v Speaker 2>it into Wickerman. It's always like you've got to follow

0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 2>the shields to find the small wicked people, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you find the spear, you bring it over, you light it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you yell into the It's it's like nine

0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:41.160
<v Speaker 2>things you've got to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so exactly the steps are crazy. I mean it's

0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.640
<v Speaker 1>every single time I have to rewind alan comment is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about and every time it doesn't matter. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I think I kind of know what they

0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.960
<v Speaker 1>have to do, but then I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like every fourth coin would make the sixth coin

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<v Speaker 2>worth anything except the second coin in the box, and

0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.760
<v Speaker 2>you're like, what just happened exactly? It doesn't make.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they keep track of what they

0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:13.399
<v Speaker 1>have to do, because like they yeah, okay, this is

0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.879
<v Speaker 1>one involves fire. It looked good, but it's seriously, I

0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.440
<v Speaker 1>rewound it like twice, and I was like, I hope.

0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.760
<v Speaker 2>I because I still told why were the dolls there?

0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Because the dolls signified the area in which the spear

0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:27.320
<v Speaker 2>was going to be found.

0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.920
<v Speaker 1>They just had to like dig around and find a

0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.720
<v Speaker 1>spear because like they found the first doll.

0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Was like, okay, they got the doll. What does that

0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:40.520
<v Speaker 2>mean again the doll? We don't need the doll. It

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.440
<v Speaker 2>was there, so it's great. That's so great.

0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.840
<v Speaker 1>But I do love them stabbing stabbing their fire in

0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:50.879
<v Speaker 1>and shouting and.

0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 2>There shouting, oh my god.

0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:11.360
<v Speaker 4>And then the way Michael does it is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>So then around this time is when Monett says he

0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.760
<v Speaker 1>has vibes about Lisa ooh and.

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.680
<v Speaker 2>The first time we've heard one of the traders name

0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:26.200
<v Speaker 2>said first.

0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Time yes, And it's like it's it's amazing how often

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.439
<v Speaker 1>people say versions of this because they you know, like

0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.879
<v Speaker 1>again they don't have evidence, they don't, but in this case,

0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.320
<v Speaker 1>actually right, yeah, And this is one of those things

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like I have no idea, like if I didn't know

0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.240
<v Speaker 1>who the traders were, like, I just have no idea

0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.200
<v Speaker 1>how I'd feel about this, Like would I be would

0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I have any idea? Look based on how these.

0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.679
<v Speaker 2>People act actually sitting there watching the show. I so

0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.360
<v Speaker 2>they have to bring back the secret Trader. I think

0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.320
<v Speaker 2>so too. Man, it's I like knowing them, but I

0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the not knowing was so much better. Maybe in the

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.560
<v Speaker 2>future they have one trader you know about and the

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 2>other three year secret I mean I don't know something

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like that. I agree, man, I think there need to

0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.120
<v Speaker 2>be teams. I think there's like like the secret team

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and a non secret team. That's a great way to do.

0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Something like that because I just there's so much more.

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>It's such a more active viewing experience when you're trying

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to figure out if you if you know who the

0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.480
<v Speaker 1>trader is, agreed one under so much more of a

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.639
<v Speaker 1>like oh oh, because like as it is, you know,

0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you're just kind of it's sort of like a self

0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.040
<v Speaker 1>satisfying process because it is well, I'm kind of like, hmm,

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm so much smarter than that, but I'm actually not right.

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I just have all the knowledge they don't

0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 2>have because I want to watch Jeopardy and be able

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.159
<v Speaker 2>to answer the questions. If you know the answers already,

0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.159
<v Speaker 2>then you're just watching to see if the contestants can

0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.840
<v Speaker 2>answer the questions, which I guess is fine, but that's

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 2>not why anybody watches Jeopardies. You watch because you want

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 2>to know if you know the answers. That's a great

0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.359
<v Speaker 2>parallel man, you know, It's like, that's what you want

0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 2>is And I loved the whole time. Every conversation Sue

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and I are having the whole time was who do

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you think the secret trader is? So who's the secret trader?

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Who's And now that that's gone, it's like, Okay, wow,

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Lisa Renna is a really bad liar or this, but

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of oh somebody said her name. So it's

0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.840
<v Speaker 2>still enjoyable, but it's a different level when when you're

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:16.320
<v Speaker 2>playing along with everybody there.

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I almost feel like they would get even

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 1>more content out of it.

0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.479
<v Speaker 2>Because you could like replay moments. Oh you know what

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Like if if if they played this, you know, Lisa

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>line at breakfast and it was just part of the

0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>show and I didn't know that she was a trader,

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.679
<v Speaker 1>and then I found out she was a trader, I

0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 1>would like then want to see that scene again. Yeah,

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 1>like maybe feel differently, but it would.

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Be like, do you know what I mean? Great idea I.

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Wonder if there's I don't know, I wonder if they

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.919
<v Speaker 1>played around with all different ways. I was trying to

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 1>think like how the show got developed, Like did they

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.480
<v Speaker 1>They must have done like a series of test pilots, right, yeah, sure,

0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:50.600
<v Speaker 1>running around with.

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Like in the game in the UK, and they did.

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.120
<v Speaker 2>But it's also everything is so heightened when you're when

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 2>you are the ones holding the secret. Do you remember

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Joe Show? So that first season at Josh Moo Show

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:04.560
<v Speaker 2>was the best, and there were so many times where

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>they were quote unquote so close to losing it. Oh

0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:08.439
<v Speaker 2>my god, we thought we blew it. We'd be And

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>then at the end when they interviewed the main guy

0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 2>who was the shmo, He's like, I didn't see any

0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 2>of that, Like all the stuff you guys were freaked

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 2>out about. I did not catch one single thing of that.

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 2>So I think when you're actually in it, it's totally different.

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 2>So the things we're seeing, as you know, as they're

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 2>eating their salmon, we'd be like, wow, Lisa Renner's kind

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 2>of not lying really well, or that story seemed weird,

0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:30.919
<v Speaker 2>But when you're stared at breakfast, it's probably like she

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.119
<v Speaker 2>told her story and was like, oh, wow, crazy, I

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know, Yeah, I don't I just don't know how.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd love to experiment with the four about a

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:42.399
<v Speaker 1>little yeah. But all right, so lots of uh Ron

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 1>is like the first one, of course hauled out or

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:46.480
<v Speaker 1>set up for murder.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we got Colton, who's gunning for Tiffany. Mark was

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the first one to shout of Ron right. Then Candice

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and Lisa, who are you know, on the same team

0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.440
<v Speaker 1>at both traders. They their team chose Tiffany, and Tiffany

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>came in and did monet. The next team picked Michael.

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know that's just because they don't like him.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Yes, of course Michael uh picked Tara and just shouted

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:17.680
<v Speaker 1>her name over and over again. That Alan commits this

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 1>little like commentary to the cameras, just.

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Like Michael not quite getting the doesn't have to shout

0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 2>it over and you can only see it once. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>Steven gets picked.

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Who Steven's just been totally flying under the radar. I

0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>don't wait which one Stephen exactly exactly? I don't even

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 1>know he's which one is he?

0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, he's the guy from like the Orange County Show,

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:45.960
<v Speaker 3>like the like the O C.

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Or whatever right from One Tree Hill.

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 3>He was also on the reality show, but yeah, he was.

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>On Laguna Beach too, One Tree Hill and Laguna Beach. Okay, gotcha,

0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>got you, got you, Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's been totally like.

0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, kind of a non kind of a non player.

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And did you see I love when they do

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the cutaways, especially when you know that they're all fake,

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 2>that they're not staying in the castle. And do you

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 2>see the one cutaway where he's just sitting in the

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 2>chair and he's going through notes. Yeah, like he's been

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 2>sitting there. We rewound it three times, laughing our ass off,

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 2>like he's like sitting there, like, hm, who do I think?

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it's the best I have been.

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Much like when you're a kid and you're like, what

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 3>would my SNL shot be, like the like at a

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:23.440
<v Speaker 3>bar you look over shot.

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 3>I've been trying to figure out what my trader shot

0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 3>would be, and I think mine would be in bed

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 3>getting ready and I sort of like turn the turn

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 3>the little reading light on and then I pull up

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 3>a book and it says how to Live with a

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 3>huge penis, Like I think that's the best possible, you know, like,

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 3>obviously how to win traders is pretty good.

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But how to how to manage the giant that's great.

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that'd be the best.

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 2>How to avoid lower back pain with a giant honking

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 2>penis Yeah.

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Any food one is also funny. Like you're in bed

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 3>or whatever and then you like turn on the light

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.679
<v Speaker 3>and you just pull out like big barbecue ribs and

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 3>start snacking.

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 2>See that. Yeah, that would be great too. I'm filling

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.120
<v Speaker 2>up water balloons for no reason, that's great.

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bunting pennies out of the jar exactly great.

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to think about what mine would be.

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>We should shoot ours will which we should?

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, we totally be hysterical, just random ones.

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, well Steven's flat of the radar if

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>and again, if this, if I were watching this not

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>knowing who the traders are, I might think he's a

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>trader because he's playing. It's so he's just letting everyone

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like go at each other and stand back.

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 2>You also wonder what because apparently at one point we've

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 2>heard some of the contestants saying things like, you know,

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I talked for twenty minutes at that roundtable, and they

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't put any of it in, I know, so you

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>wonder what they're actually you know, using and what they aren't.

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 2>And maybe the players are all talking more. They're just

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 2>not as exciting a storyline. And here's my question about

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 2>the roundtable. Is it a timed thing?

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.360
<v Speaker 3>No, it's just no. They just like that, like you're

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.400
<v Speaker 3>a big Survivor fan, Like I've heard over the years

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 3>that some of those Survivor tribal councils are like six

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 3>hours long.

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they do the same thing apparently on Top

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Chef where the judges will collaborate for like five days,

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 2>like five hours.

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 3>And Bachelor too. Those Bachelor ones are at like two

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 3>am and they can go to like five.

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>So they just usually they're just letting them and Y

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>film it. Yeah, and then Alan Commons just decides to

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>step in and go all right, now we vote.

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 2>My guess is when people start to repeat themselves again

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 2>over which always happens in a conversation with that many people,

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that's when they'll be like, all right, now everybody's just

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 2>saying the same thing, let's just jump in.

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 1>But now Alan Commons does he ever jump into the roundtable?

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 2>And like, nope, referee at all. Now I was amazed

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 2>last time when in the last episode when Michael started

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 2>to go after jam Jam and and Alan was like,

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what, why don't you save this for the roundtable?

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh wow, he's stepping in and saying that.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Even that was kind of out of character, which is great.

0:25:54.800 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, Well, after Stephen was uh burned, I

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>guess it's the yes Yes burned in effigy. Then h

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Mark marka Ballast's team chose Lisa, then Ron's team chose Moura,

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 1>and then Natalie stabbed for Johnny and uh Mark and

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Colton found the last spear and they did jam Jam,

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>who cried yeah, which I was a little like, are

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you really like it's emotional?

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>You just had your effigy stabbed and then burned in

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 2>a Scottish countryside.

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess I get confused sometimes, like I feel like

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I would be emotional about.

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Being banished, not about being murdered. Yeah, being murdered seems

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 2>like it's an honor kind of exactly exactly like that one.

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>We just don't like you exactly right, And and and

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:00.959
<v Speaker 1>obviously if jam Jam is feeling like they're not liking

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 1>him because he has been on the chop. You know,

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>he's been circulated as if he's a trader, like.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 2>So, I don't know.

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>It was a little like why like it was it

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>was an interesting emotional I mean obviously it was real

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think he benefits.

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>From an emotional dude. Yeah.

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then they were in the cars on the

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>way back, and like I think it was Mara was

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about just taking it really personally, you know, she

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, and Tiffany was gunning for Ron

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and turning Moura against him.

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 2>It seems to be more personal this season than it

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 2>was last season.

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, because I guess I expected more strategy.

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 2>But as Faithful's what can you what kind of strategy

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 2>can you have?

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, all the stuff about like hearing light footsteps a laugh,

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>testing these people by you know, confronting them, like you know,

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing how they lie or answer a question that seems

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 1>like more fun, but like just kind of picking on

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody because you don't like them, or they don't ask

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 1>about your family or whatever I'm like, or because they

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 1>burned your shield when reality is they had to burn

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody's shield, like somebody's up for murder. It's like, okay,

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 1>but now we get this glorious shot that will live

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.479
<v Speaker 1>rent free in my mind forever of Michael rapperport.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Eating Did you notice this? Did I notice it?

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 2>One of the crazy he is like taking the plate,

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>the plate? Did it level with his mouth? Just shoveling

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 2>it in?

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like, who eats like that? A and then anyway,

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like that on camera? Unbelievable. I could we we

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>stopped and we were like did we just see that? Like,

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>how is that okay?

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Anywhere? Could get anywhere?

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this man, this is what he eats like in

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>public on camera?

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>What unbelievable. I was just wondering, like who hoses him

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>down after dinner? Exactly? I just like, are we just

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>going to tie a feedback to you next?

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Like what.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Job?

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 3>It was?

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Job? Get it all the way around? Yes, it just

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and the condon it in there. It's like that is seriously,

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 2>that is he's got to have ten older brothers and

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 2>you just eat as fast as you can so you

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>can eat. I just got it because I don't know

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 2>where that's okay, Like, dude, did you learn to eat?

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 2>That's why there's no salmon left? My God? Like God,

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>don't put anything near his mouth. Yes, it's crazy.

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is about where I was like, I don't

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>want him to leave, like I just it's my favorite

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>everything everything I hate about this guy. I love.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>This is where the toxicity of.

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Reality TV leave God because I was just like, that's entertainment.

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh god watching to be Oh he is a character.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>He is a character. My God. That was great. Yep,

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>all right.

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Tiffany is being very aggressive, you know,

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just not taking Colton's accusations and stride.

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>But it seems like every time Coulton opens his mouth,

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like read. I think it's because he clocked uh

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:03.239
<v Speaker 2>a mom, uh uh Donna, yeah, Mama, Kelsey. Yeah that

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>now he's got some cred to where when you talk

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to people are listening. But but it's also just he's

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the leader, like he's you know, he's got charisma and

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>he sounds like he's making sense and he's got a plan,

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean?

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>But actually his plan is not based on much. His

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>plan is just kind of like I.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Think it's this person. Yeah, he'll say I'm taking a

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 2>swing to night like exact, okay with.

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>What yeah, whereas like Ron with his light steps facts.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Nobody nobody cares about ron'stat. You know, yeah, nobody cares.

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so roundtable gets pretty uh interesting. Yeah, when Eric

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>lays out this laugh evidence, which it's just such a bummer.

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>It's well, it's a bummer because it's the way he

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>sets it up where he's like, I'm a musician. My

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>ears are magical, their Elvin ears given to me by Yes,

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. It's like, oh God, and he's just he

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 2>couldn't build it up anymore. I've won magical ear nineteen

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 2>ninety seven through twenty eleven. It's like, oh God, and

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 2>then he's wrong. It's just it's so it sucks because

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>he really does swing for the fences. The traders are

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>so happy, Oh my god, overjoyed. They don't have to

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>do anything.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm the second that that laugh, Like the evidence was

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>presented one you know, you know that their hearts were

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh god, yep.

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was going to say Candace. I thought

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>he was going to say Candace. I don't know why,

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>but I thought it was like it was you, Candace,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and then it was going to

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>be this amazing kind of like I'm waiting for the

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 2>moment of the when I'm on the show, I get

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>to take off my mask and I noticed the small

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>crumpled shoulder of one person where Alan had actually tapped

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 2>them on the shoulder to pick them as a trader,

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and you call out the perfect thing, Like I thought

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 2>that was this, Like I heard a laugh and it

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, he's gonna say Candace's kid. I was like, ugh,

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and then nope, no, not a thing, no, nope.

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it lined up perfectly with Colton's Tiffany theory perfectly.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much everybody just yeped for Tiffany, which yeah, I.

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Mean I I could see.

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Myself like I would totally trust that because it actually

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>has some logic.

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Most people said it wasn't Colton either. A lot of

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>people afterwards said when I heard what Eric said, yeah,

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's what made me change my vote. And so

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>it's you are looking for somebody who has here's the thing.

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 2>They're looking for somebody who has solid evidence unless it's

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>coming from Ron and then they and then they don't care.

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Anybody care exactly.

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's you know, like Colton and Eric like

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the response after like this if by the logic that

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>they're going after Ron or they've gone after a lot

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>of people, they should turn on Colton and Eric and

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>they don't.

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Nope at all, although spoiler alert in later episodes. In

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.959
<v Speaker 2>a later episode, it seems like Colton's name is now

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>starting to be thrown around a bit. Yes, yes, but not.

0:32:55.800 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Eric's not Eric like at all, like and you know, actually,

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>if he was a trader, it would be a brilliant

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>move to just get somebody out that you don't want.

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Really, you know, say this laugh thing.

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>It's great.

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 2>God, I just don't know how I.

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Would play this game. I'd be so bad at it.

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I don't think you would be. I honestly do

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>not think you would be. I think you would get there,

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and I think you'd well, it depends. I think if

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>you were a faithful you would get there. You would

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>let everything go, you'd enjoy your breakfast, you'd have fun

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>with the challenges, and then you'd try to figure out

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>what was going on. If you were a trader, it

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 2>might be a little rough you because just because you

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>don't like to lie to people. Yeah, so you'd figure

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 2>it out. Though, you'd figure it out. Well, we'll have

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>to see what we play. Maybe we can be a team.

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>So at this point we're already an episode ahead. But

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>do you remember who you thought would be murdered?

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>No, God, I don't. Do you remember who you thought

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 2>would be murdered? I thought Steven? Actually did you?

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Or you kill Eric? Because everyone knows that he, you know,

0:33:58.480 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 1>messed up.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>And you mean not be not banished? Do you mean murderer?

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>So do we get through the banishment? We know it's Tiffany.

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Tiffany gets banished and of course reveals that.

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>She goes through the circle of you and tells everybody

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 2>what she is a faithful? What do you? What do

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 2>you like?

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, has anybody ever just stood there and been

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like I'm a faithful, I'm a trader and walked out?

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Or they always have to give.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.479
<v Speaker 2>No, I think they always want to speak. I remember

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the one I remember the most was the very first

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 2>person kicked off last season was Wells Adams. You and

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I met Wells at one of the iHeart parties. He

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 2>came to dinner with us. He's married to Sarah Hyland

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>and he was on The Bachelor I think or one

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>of these things survive or something like that mm hm.

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>And he was the first one to go and they

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>just picked him like somebody went I think it's wells

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And I remember him he was pissed, like he was like,

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 2>way to go, everybody, nice job, like that kind of thing.

0:34:57.280 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you could tell him first person to leave.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 2>He was upset about it. But unlike Dona Kelsey, who

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 2>was like, you did it. You caught a trader, right.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I think now people are really starting to get are

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 2>going to start getting more and more personal. And this

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>is also the first time I had ever seen anybody

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>in Tiffany say I need the money. I know. I'd

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>never heard that before.

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's interesting because it's not a whole lot of money,

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>just compared to other shows like Survivor you get a

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>million dollars, you know, and it's been that way forever,

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of these shows. You know, it just

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>seems like the money is not.

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Really the point of this show, right, right. But that's

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 2>why I was amazed, where she was like like I'm

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>crying and saying I need the money.

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's that was I'd never seen it before.

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 2>That was tough.

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially because they're celebrities, right, Like most of these

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>people are probably pretty well off.

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Zoom or yeah, but you never you just never know.

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 2>You never know.

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Tiffany is banished and the Traders get together

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.759
<v Speaker 1>to discuss who they're going to murder. And at this

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>point I did I thought Steven would be the one

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>to go.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I actually do remember who I picked, and I turned

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 2>out I was right, really because only because it's the

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.479
<v Speaker 2>only person to ever have one of the traders names

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 2>cross their lips. That was the only only time he'd

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 2>ever heard it. So I was like, Hey, if that

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 2>person's up, they gotta go. That's what I would say

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>if I was a trader. It's like one person your

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 2>name came out of one person's mouth. That person's got

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to go. And then they even talk about well, hopefully

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm the only one they took because he told it.

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>This person told it to Candice, right.

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>See, I had a feeling, I because because Eric messed

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>up so bad, right, and I think it was pretty

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>obvious that he felt bad.

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that it was you know that.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I think murdering him because now I feel like

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>he's he's gonna work so hard to get everybody on

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>his side, and everyone's gonna be like, oh, he wouldn't

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>he's can't be a trader, like you.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Know, but why does he get such a pass for

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>that huge faux pas? And Ron is still in the

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>proverbial cage, like I don't understand it.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think maybe Ron is just not he's just

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>not personal enough, you know.

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, I think he's just

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>a Yeah, it's like you haven't gotten to know anybody.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And then but it's also double edged store.

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, you're way too friendly. You've got to

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>be a trade right, That's what I mean. Where's the balance?

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why I think he's looking at it as like, oh,

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a strategy game, let's play the strategy. And other

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>people are like it's a personality social mind game, and

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play it that way. It's like, I don't know,

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it sucks. I don't know either, all right. Any final

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>thoughts before we end this episode.

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to ask you. We're now five in

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>or four in excuse me, at the end of four

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>do you have any hot takes on who you think

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>is gonna win? Do you still are you sticking with uh,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 2>with your your girl Natalie or who do you think

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 2>who do you think is there at the end. Oh god, I.

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Mean, I'm starting to think the Traders are just killing it.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>They're doing well, and now that they're more in control,

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>because really they're doing this well and they well, you

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>know what it is. I don't even think that they're

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>doing that well. I think the Faithful are doing so poorly.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>That's what it is that I think you're right. But

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a combination of the two. I think

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Rob is playing it very well. I think the other

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I think Candice has pulled.

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>It back a little bit, which is good, But I

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 2>do I don't think I think everybody else when you're

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody's following somebody like Colton, which seems like what they're doing,

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 2>and Colton keeps swinging wrong. Yes, he's just doing the

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>work for the Traders.

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 1>They don't have to do anything exactly. Yeah, and yeah,

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody's playing horribly on the field side, and so the Traders,

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think they've been kind of lucky because

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>all the the Donna's choices for them for the murder

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that were horrible, so they didn't actually get to have

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that much strategy in those first episodes, you know, But

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>now that she's gone, and that they are in control.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>No one's guessing them, no one's thinking about them, and

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 1>they're all just all over the place. It's so I'm

0:38:59.880 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>not feeling I feel like there might be a trader win.

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely a possibility. I also would like to throw

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>somebody out there as a hot take for being there

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>at the end. I think people really like, and I

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.839
<v Speaker 2>do too, Johnny Whir And I think there's a chance

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Johnny's there at or near the end of the game. Yeah,

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 2>flying under the radar, funny, personable. People seem to like them.

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Nobody I think has set his name or come even

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 2>close to saying his name. I think there's a chance

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that Johnny could be there towards the end.

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, so how does it work, because I really like

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>if the traders win, do they all win? Do they

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>all three have to win?

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Or just like one trader, one trader is there at

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 2>the end and then that person gets all the money.

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 2>If there's multiple traders at the end, they split it. Yeah,

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>so that's and it's yeah, it's like they stand around

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a fire, of course, because nothing can be easy. They

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>stand around the fire. They get the blood of truth,

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 2>they take the blood of truth to the Temple of Galam. No,

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 2>they have they stand around the fire and they all

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 2>have to decide we're all faithful's here, I try, we're

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 2>all faithfuls. Let's end the game. And then they like

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 2>throw their thing into the fire to show like it's

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.959
<v Speaker 2>green or what burns green or something, and it shows

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 2>that the game is over, and so they're ready to go,

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and then they find out whether they're all faithfuls or

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>whether some of the traders. So last season, four people

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 2>were there and they all made it. They were all trade,

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 2>all faithfuls. But if one trader's there and has fooled everybody,

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>then that person gets all the money. So is it

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 2>possible for just traders to be sure? I would imagine.

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I don't know how that would happen.

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 2>But if they murder everybody, they might look around and

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 2>we just won. What do we do now? So yeah,

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so interesting. But I think you're right. I

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're playing particularly well. And I think the

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>more personal and judgmental you get, and the more you

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>take it personally, the worse you play. Yes, And I

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>think that's we're going to start seeing that more and

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>more yes.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well that's it for this episode of Pod meets Twirled.

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Alliances were tested, trust misplaced.

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 2>And once again we've been left with the cliffhanger.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Join us next time as we continue our journey through

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>season four of Traders, a show in which, as Shakespeare

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 1>said in a Scottish play, fair is foul and foul

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>is fair