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Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets Twirld, a podcast from two guys

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Speaker 1: who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So

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Speaker 1: now we turn to Traders, another show I've never seen,

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Speaker 1: while Will is convinced he could win it. We are

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Speaker 1: Wilfred Ellen Ryder Strong, two best friends, won a TV expert,

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Speaker 1: one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars join us as

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Speaker 1: we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, and

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Speaker 1: over the top wardrobe choices.

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Speaker 2: This is pod meets Twirld.

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Speaker 1: Trading places dramatic cloak reveal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't just take their cloak off. The turn

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Speaker 2: is good to do the turn. That's my that's my emperor. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Emperor, Young Skywalker.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid that delector Shield will be fully of operation.

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Speaker 1: Visual jokes on the podcast so many, I know, look

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Speaker 1: at this space, I can make all right, Traders. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I am I'm in deep, I'm sucked in. But I'm

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Speaker 1: also I'm having lots.

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Speaker 2: Of strange feelings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we can talk about it, stuck it out,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like here, I've just had a complicated relationship

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Speaker 1: with reality TV in general. I was one of those

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Speaker 1: people who really really hated it too. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: partly because it you know, it was killing our industry

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Speaker 1: like it is, yeah it still is. But when we

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Speaker 1: were finishing boy Mes World, reality was ascendant, Like do

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Speaker 1: you remember, it was like a big deal that the

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Speaker 1: game shows were coming back because Who Wants to Be

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Speaker 1: a Millionaire was taken off and they decided to put

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Speaker 1: it on every night, and so like shows, like traditional

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Speaker 1: was too expensive and those jobs started going away. And

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Speaker 1: then we had the strike, the writer's strike, the old

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Speaker 1: writer strike. There's been so many now, I know anyway,

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Speaker 1: I you know, so I was always pretty negative and

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Speaker 1: just the culture, the culture of reality TV I never

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Speaker 2: I agree it's there's there's very few traditional quote unquote

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Speaker 2: about backstabbing and drunkenness and you know, getting arrested. Sue

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Speaker 2: and I, because we're gluttons for punishment, are rewatching Jersey Shore,

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Speaker 1: But I I guess I like, you know, Survivor was

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Speaker 1: that was eleven years ago a half years ago, and

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Speaker 1: I got really into it and I could see, you know,

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Speaker 1: I could see it as like a sort of a

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Speaker 1: don't know, that show always felt wholesome in a way

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Speaker 1: that other reality shows didn't anyway. Long way to say,

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Speaker 1: during this episode of Traders, I found myself wanting Michael

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Speaker 2: Entertaining, right and it worked.

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Speaker 1: That was the part of my brain that I don't

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Speaker 2: It felt toxic.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I hope they don't kick Michael

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Speaker 1: I was liking him for things that I don't like

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Speaker 2: But I think it's really awful for us.

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Speaker 1: I think it's awful for us as individuals, and I

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Speaker 2: I know, well, it's it's also it's so much easier

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Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. And so we're kind

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Speaker 2: reason why we love the Great British Big Show. It's

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Speaker 2: But this is, I mean, again with all the stuff

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Speaker 2: you're That's what it is with this and you're sitting

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Speaker 2: there you're hoping it's funny. An article came out I'm

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Speaker 2: so you know, essentially all the news nowadays. I read

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's an interest. This show is

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Speaker 1: So there, so they're all role playing, and like I

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Speaker 1: they also, like in this opening of this episode, when

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Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't be okay, Like.

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Speaker 1: If somebody said that to me, even in the context

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Speaker 2: I by accident watched thirty seconds of Housewives once because

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Speaker 2: that's but that's what it is. It'sh drunken women backstabbing

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Speaker 2: I can't believe you said that about me. It's the

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Speaker 2: worst of society. And the problem is we are making

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Speaker 2: the unwarranted arrogance of quote unquote celebrity. So you put

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Speaker 1: Well, in the breakfast room, Ron was the first faithful

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Speaker 2: Smart by the way, you got to see if everybody

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Speaker 1: And then Lisa walked in and she is one of

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Speaker 2: I hope they I was like, maybe she told the

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Speaker 1: I had the same thought because they added all those

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Speaker 2: And I mean that was no one would have believed

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Speaker 1: I know it was bad, but but yeah, she just

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Speaker 1: she also just like overdid it?

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Speaker 2: You know, she's like talking too much. Yes, like you

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Speaker 2: are a lie. Simple it's the easiest thing to do,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe no one really caught onto it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: But even if you just took what she was saying.

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Speaker 1: Like the way she was getting so into it, I

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Speaker 1: Ron had this this whole thing about how he heard

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Speaker 2: Heavy guy is going to make different footsteps than a

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Speaker 1: And there were there are two women and that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Was a good theory, you know. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: I like, man, Ron, he is just always on the

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Speaker 2: Game now just pissed, like he's just walking around. I agree,

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Speaker 1: Like they're all still like bringing up Porsche and him

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Speaker 1: like turning on her. But meanwhile he's the only he's

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Speaker 1: actually giving evidence, which he did, like this is a

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Speaker 2: Just pointing at people, going I think it's I think

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Speaker 2: it's just like throwing out theories. But everyone likes him

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, do Ron, you know it's it's a

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Speaker 1: little like I don't know, there's a bias. There's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a kind of bias against Ron that I'm not

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Speaker 2: Like, I like this guy. He's funny. He's like he's

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Speaker 2: the Danielle of this and they're all dancing with the stars. Judges,

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Speaker 2: that's what That's what's going on, because I will.

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Speaker 3: Tell you firsthand. Ron Funcius is known as one of

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Speaker 3: the nicest guys in comedy.

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Speaker 2: He seems like he would be yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes meets World fan. By the way, is he really

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Speaker 3: really know that I Have'm friends with run?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, it's so cool. I feel sorry

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Speaker 2: for him. Maddie too.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching this going like why do they keep going

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Speaker 2: He how do you play if every time you open

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Speaker 2: your mouth somebody thinks that you're you need to be

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Speaker 2: kicked off? Which is where it is with him now.

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Speaker 2: It's like he can't even like, well, here's the thing

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Speaker 2: I saw. It's like I don't trust that rong. It's like,

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Speaker 2: Just a room with salmon, yes, Like all how hard

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Speaker 2: How long would that last? He's like, I'm gonna change

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Speaker 2: He tells the camera that he had heard a laugh.

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Speaker 2: We also thought Ron was going to be voted off

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Speaker 1: He's in a great position to be a trader because

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Speaker 1: he's you know, I think he can be low key, yes,

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Speaker 2: He's flying perfectly, flying under the radar. Really well, nobody

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so when they confront, they do a face

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Speaker 2: Because she was like, I'll see you at Bravo Con.

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Speaker 2: Whoa are we going to lose a friendship over this?

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Speaker 2: You wonder that you bitch. What do you think would

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Speaker 2: there as a trader, I'd be like, you asshole, right,

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Speaker 2: but with a big smile, Yeah, that's true, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, it gets right up to the line of

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Speaker 2: like is this like really yeah, Like because Ron gets

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Speaker 2: later when he's like, I don't want to know about

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Speaker 2: my family's done your business or something like. We're right

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Speaker 2: also a television show. And it's also for two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars, right, so it's like it's it's

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Speaker 2: they're playing to win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, after breakfast, they all they all

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Speaker 1: Tiffany is totally pushing for Ron, like not really sure why.

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Speaker 2: Now they've just they're convinced. They're all convinced from the beginning. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile Colton begins gunning for Tiffany, which kind of

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Speaker 1: a lot of isn't Candace doing that too?

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Speaker 2: At like every roundtable and yet nobody's talking about Candace.

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Speaker 1: Well, I felt like this episode Candace finally pulled it back.

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Speaker 1: you're just making too much of a scene. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: be that you're you're the ring leader and everybody sees

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Speaker 1: you being a ring lead, yes, which just seems like

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Speaker 1: a bad strategy. No matter what, whether you're a trader

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Speaker 1: or whether you're a faithful it seems like all you

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Speaker 1: start pointy fingers. So like Colton and Tiffany both just

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Speaker 1: put themselves out there, and I mean Colton is like

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Speaker 1: both of them are like consciously saying I'm going to

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Speaker 2: I've got but I just don't know if it's a

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Speaker 2: good move. Like I don't either. I think, fly under

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Speaker 2: in the game, Trader or faithful. Just do keep your

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Speaker 2: if not, become indispensable in all the challenges and keep

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the whole shield thing, well we'll get into

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Speaker 1: it because I didn't know they didn't explain it because

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Speaker 1: I guess this has been on previous seasons. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I was very upset that I wasn't explained. All right,

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Speaker 1: but the mission in this episode is throwing spears at beasts.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 1: This thing's so great. So do they ever repeat have

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Speaker 1: you seen this before?

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen this one before.

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Speaker 1: No. I mean this is like a straight ripoff of

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Speaker 1: the movie wicker Man, like it's flawed like Culty, sort

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Speaker 1: of like Northern England.

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Speaker 2: Spooky out of my effigies.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, the little stalls in the trees. It's full

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Speaker 2: I also love how none of the challenges are like

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Speaker 2: it into Wickerman. It's always like you've got to follow

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Speaker 1: It's so exactly the steps are crazy. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: every single time I have to rewind alan comment is

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think I kind of know what they

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Speaker 2: It's like every fourth coin would make the sixth coin

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Speaker 2: you're like, what just happened exactly? It doesn't make.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they keep track of what they

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Speaker 1: one involves fire. It looked good, but it's seriously, I

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Speaker 1: rewound it like twice, and I was like, I hope.

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Speaker 2: I because I still told why were the dolls there?

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Speaker 2: Because the dolls signified the area in which the spear

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Speaker 1: They just had to like dig around and find a

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Speaker 2: Was like, okay, they got the doll. What does that

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Speaker 2: mean again the doll? We don't need the doll. It

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Speaker 2: was there, so it's great. That's so great.

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Speaker 1: But I do love them stabbing stabbing their fire in

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Speaker 2: There shouting, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And then the way Michael does it is the best.

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Speaker 1: So then around this time is when Monett says he

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Speaker 2: The first time we've heard one of the traders name

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Speaker 1: Time yes, And it's like it's it's amazing how often

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Speaker 1: again they don't have evidence, they don't, but in this case,

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Speaker 1: actually right, yeah, And this is one of those things

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Speaker 1: like I have no idea, like if I didn't know

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Speaker 1: how I'd feel about this, Like would I be would

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Speaker 1: I have any idea? Look based on how these.

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Speaker 2: People act actually sitting there watching the show. I so

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Speaker 2: they have to bring back the secret Trader. I think

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Speaker 2: so too. Man, it's I like knowing them, but I

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Speaker 2: the not knowing was so much better. Maybe in the

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Speaker 2: other three year secret I mean I don't know something

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Speaker 2: like that. I agree, man, I think there need to

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Speaker 1: Something like that because I just there's so much more.

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Speaker 1: It's such a more active viewing experience when you're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out if you if you know who the

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Speaker 1: trader is, agreed one under so much more of a

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Speaker 1: like oh oh, because like as it is, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're just kind of it's sort of like a self

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Speaker 1: I'm so much smarter than that, but I'm actually not right.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I just have all the knowledge they don't

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Speaker 2: have because I want to watch Jeopardy and be able

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Speaker 2: to answer the questions. If you know the answers already,

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Speaker 2: then you're just watching to see if the contestants can

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Speaker 2: answer the questions, which I guess is fine, but that's

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Speaker 2: not why anybody watches Jeopardies. You watch because you want

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Speaker 2: to know if you know the answers. That's a great

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Speaker 2: parallel man, you know, It's like, that's what you want

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Speaker 2: is And I loved the whole time. Every conversation Sue

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Speaker 2: Who's And now that that's gone, it's like, Okay, wow,

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Speaker 2: Lisa Renna is a really bad liar or this, but

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Speaker 2: it's kind of oh somebody said her name. So it's

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Speaker 2: still enjoyable, but it's a different level when when you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I almost feel like they would get even

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Speaker 2: Because you could like replay moments. Oh you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like if if if they played this, you know, Lisa

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Speaker 1: and then I found out she was a trader, I

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Speaker 1: like maybe feel differently, but it would.

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Speaker 1: Wonder if there's I don't know, I wonder if they

438
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 1: played around with all different ways. I was trying to

439
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: think like how the show got developed, Like did they

440
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: They must have done like a series of test pilots, right, yeah, sure,

441
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: running around with.

442
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 2: Like in the game in the UK, and they did.

443
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 2: But it's also everything is so heightened when you're when

444
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: you are the ones holding the secret. Do you remember

445
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 2: Joe Show? So that first season at Josh Moo Show

446
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: was the best, and there were so many times where

447
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 2: they were quote unquote so close to losing it. Oh

448
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 2: my god, we thought we blew it. We'd be And

449
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: then at the end when they interviewed the main guy

450
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: who was the shmo, He's like, I didn't see any

451
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 2: of that, Like all the stuff you guys were freaked

452
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: out about. I did not catch one single thing of that.

453
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: So I think when you're actually in it, it's totally different.

454
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: So the things we're seeing, as you know, as they're

455
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 2: eating their salmon, we'd be like, wow, Lisa Renner's kind

456
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: of not lying really well, or that story seemed weird,

457
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 2: But when you're stared at breakfast, it's probably like she

458
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 2: told her story and was like, oh, wow, crazy, I

459
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 2: don't know, Yeah, I don't I just don't know how.

460
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to experiment with the four about a

461
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: little yeah. But all right, so lots of uh Ron

462
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: is like the first one, of course hauled out or

463
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: set up for murder.

464
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

465
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: Then we got Colton, who's gunning for Tiffany. Mark was

466
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: the first one to shout of Ron right. Then Candice

467
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: and Lisa, who are you know, on the same team

468
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: at both traders. They their team chose Tiffany, and Tiffany

469
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: came in and did monet. The next team picked Michael.

470
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: But you know that's just because they don't like him.

471
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: I guess.

472
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,479
Speaker 1: Yes, of course Michael uh picked Tara and just shouted

473
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: her name over and over again. That Alan commits this

474
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: little like commentary to the cameras, just.

475
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: Like Michael not quite getting the doesn't have to shout

476
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: it over and you can only see it once. Uh

477
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: Steven gets picked.

478
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: Who Steven's just been totally flying under the radar. I

479
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: don't wait which one Stephen exactly exactly? I don't even

480
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: know he's which one is he?

481
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: Okay, he's the guy from like the Orange County Show,

482
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 3: like the like the O C.

483
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 2: Or whatever right from One Tree Hill.

484
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 3: He was also on the reality show, but yeah, he was.

485
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: On Laguna Beach too, One Tree Hill and Laguna Beach. Okay, gotcha,

486
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: got you, got you, Steve.

487
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: But he's been totally like.

488
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of a non kind of a non player.

489
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 2: Yes, And did you see I love when they do

490
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: the cutaways, especially when you know that they're all fake,

491
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: that they're not staying in the castle. And do you

492
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: see the one cutaway where he's just sitting in the

493
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: chair and he's going through notes. Yeah, like he's been

494
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: sitting there. We rewound it three times, laughing our ass off,

495
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: like he's like sitting there, like, hm, who do I think?

496
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's the best I have been.

497
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: Much like when you're a kid and you're like, what

498
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: would my SNL shot be, like the like at a

499
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: bar you look over shot.

500
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: You know.

501
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: I've been trying to figure out what my trader shot

502
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: would be, and I think mine would be in bed

503
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: getting ready and I sort of like turn the turn

504
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: the little reading light on and then I pull up

505
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: a book and it says how to Live with a

506
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 3: huge penis, Like I think that's the best possible, you know, like,

507
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: obviously how to win traders is pretty good.

508
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: But how to how to manage the giant that's great.

509
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: I think that'd be the best.

510
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: How to avoid lower back pain with a giant honking

511
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: penis Yeah.

512
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 3: Any food one is also funny. Like you're in bed

513
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 3: or whatever and then you like turn on the light

514
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 3: and you just pull out like big barbecue ribs and

515
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: start snacking.

516
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: See that. Yeah, that would be great too. I'm filling

517
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: up water balloons for no reason, that's great.

518
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, bunting pennies out of the jar exactly great.

519
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to think about what mine would be.

520
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: We should shoot ours will which we should?

521
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we totally be hysterical, just random ones.

522
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well Steven's flat of the radar if

523
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: and again, if this, if I were watching this not

524
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: knowing who the traders are, I might think he's a

525
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: trader because he's playing. It's so he's just letting everyone

526
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: like go at each other and stand back.

527
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: You also wonder what because apparently at one point we've

528
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: heard some of the contestants saying things like, you know,

529
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: I talked for twenty minutes at that roundtable, and they

530
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: didn't put any of it in, I know, so you

531
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: wonder what they're actually you know, using and what they aren't.

532
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: And maybe the players are all talking more. They're just

533
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: not as exciting a storyline. And here's my question about

534
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: the roundtable. Is it a timed thing?

535
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 3: No, it's just no. They just like that, like you're

536
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 3: a big Survivor fan, Like I've heard over the years

537
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: that some of those Survivor tribal councils are like six

538
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: hours long.

539
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they do the same thing apparently on Top

540
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: Chef where the judges will collaborate for like five days,

541
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: like five hours.

542
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: And Bachelor too. Those Bachelor ones are at like two

543
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: am and they can go to like five.

544
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: So they just usually they're just letting them and Y

545
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: film it. Yeah, and then Alan Commons just decides to

546
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: step in and go all right, now we vote.

547
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: My guess is when people start to repeat themselves again

548
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: over which always happens in a conversation with that many people,

549
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: that's when they'll be like, all right, now everybody's just

550
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: saying the same thing, let's just jump in.

551
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: But now Alan Commons does he ever jump into the roundtable?

552
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: And like, nope, referee at all. Now I was amazed

553
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: last time when in the last episode when Michael started

554
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: to go after jam Jam and and Alan was like,

555
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: you know what, why don't you save this for the roundtable?

556
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: It's like, oh wow, he's stepping in and saying that.

557
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: Even that was kind of out of character, which is great.

558
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: Right, all right, Well, after Stephen was uh burned, I

559
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: guess it's the yes Yes burned in effigy. Then h

560
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Mark marka Ballast's team chose Lisa, then Ron's team chose Moura,

561
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: and then Natalie stabbed for Johnny and uh Mark and

562
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: Colton found the last spear and they did jam Jam,

563
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: who cried yeah, which I was a little like, are

564
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: you really like it's emotional?

565
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: You just had your effigy stabbed and then burned in

566
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: a Scottish countryside.

567
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 1: I guess I get confused sometimes, like I feel like

568
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I would be emotional about.

569
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Being banished, not about being murdered. Yeah, being murdered seems

570
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: like it's an honor kind of exactly exactly like that one.

571
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: We just don't like you exactly right, And and and

572
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 1: obviously if jam Jam is feeling like they're not liking

573
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: him because he has been on the chop. You know,

574
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: he's been circulated as if he's a trader, like.

575
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: So, I don't know.

576
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: It was a little like why like it was it

577
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: was an interesting emotional I mean obviously it was real

578
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: because I don't think he benefits.

579
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: From an emotional dude. Yeah.

580
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then they were in the cars on the

581
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: way back, and like I think it was Mara was

582
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: talking about just taking it really personally, you know, she

583
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: was like, you know, and Tiffany was gunning for Ron

584
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: and turning Moura against him.

585
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: It seems to be more personal this season than it

586
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: was last season.

587
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because I guess I expected more strategy.

588
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: But as Faithful's what can you what kind of strategy

589
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: can you have?

590
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: Well, all the stuff about like hearing light footsteps a laugh,

591
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: testing these people by you know, confronting them, like you know,

592
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: seeing how they lie or answer a question that seems

593
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: like more fun, but like just kind of picking on

594
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: somebody because you don't like them, or they don't ask

595
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: about your family or whatever I'm like, or because they

596
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: burned your shield when reality is they had to burn

597
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: somebody's shield, like somebody's up for murder. It's like, okay,

598
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: but now we get this glorious shot that will live

599
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: rent free in my mind forever of Michael rapperport.

600
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: Eating Did you notice this? Did I notice it?

601
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

602
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: One of the crazy he is like taking the plate,

603
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: the plate? Did it level with his mouth? Just shoveling

604
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: it in?

605
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: I was like, who eats like that? A and then anyway,

606
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: it's like that on camera? Unbelievable. I could we we

607
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: stopped and we were like did we just see that? Like,

608
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: how is that okay?

609
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Anywhere? Could get anywhere?

610
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: Yes, this man, this is what he eats like in

611
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: public on camera?

612
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: What unbelievable. I was just wondering, like who hoses him

613
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: down after dinner? Exactly? I just like, are we just

614
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: going to tie a feedback to you next?

615
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: Like what.

616
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: Job?

617
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: It was?

618
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: Job? Get it all the way around? Yes, it just

619
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: and the condon it in there. It's like that is seriously,

620
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: that is he's got to have ten older brothers and

621
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: you just eat as fast as you can so you

622
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 2: can eat. I just got it because I don't know

623
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: where that's okay, Like, dude, did you learn to eat?

624
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: That's why there's no salmon left? My God? Like God,

625
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: don't put anything near his mouth. Yes, it's crazy.

626
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: And this is about where I was like, I don't

627
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: want him to leave, like I just it's my favorite

628
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: everything everything I hate about this guy. I love.

629
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: This is where the toxicity of.

630
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: Reality TV leave God because I was just like, that's entertainment.

631
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh god watching to be Oh he is a character.

632
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: He is a character. My God. That was great. Yep,

633
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: all right.

634
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: I feel like Tiffany is being very aggressive, you know,

635
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: just not taking Colton's accusations and stride.

636
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: But it seems like every time Coulton opens his mouth,

637
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: everyone's like read. I think it's because he clocked uh

638
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 2: a mom, uh uh Donna, yeah, Mama, Kelsey. Yeah that

639
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: now he's got some cred to where when you talk

640
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: to people are listening. But but it's also just he's

641
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: the leader, like he's you know, he's got charisma and

642
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: he sounds like he's making sense and he's got a plan,

643
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean?

644
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: But actually his plan is not based on much. His

645
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: plan is just kind of like I.

646
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: Think it's this person. Yeah, he'll say I'm taking a

647
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: swing to night like exact, okay with.

648
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: What yeah, whereas like Ron with his light steps facts.

649
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: Nobody nobody cares about ron'stat. You know, yeah, nobody cares.

650
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so roundtable gets pretty uh interesting. Yeah, when Eric

651
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: lays out this laugh evidence, which it's just such a bummer.

652
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: It's well, it's a bummer because it's the way he

653
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: sets it up where he's like, I'm a musician. My

654
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: ears are magical, their Elvin ears given to me by Yes,

655
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: you know. It's like, oh God, and he's just he

656
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: couldn't build it up anymore. I've won magical ear nineteen

657
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: ninety seven through twenty eleven. It's like, oh God, and

658
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: then he's wrong. It's just it's so it sucks because

659
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: he really does swing for the fences. The traders are

660
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: so happy, Oh my god, overjoyed. They don't have to

661
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: do anything.

662
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm the second that that laugh, Like the evidence was

663
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: presented one you know, you know that their hearts were

664
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: just like, oh god, yep.

665
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to say Candace. I thought

666
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: he was going to say Candace. I don't know why,

667
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: but I thought it was like it was you, Candace,

668
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, and then it was going to

669
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: be this amazing kind of like I'm waiting for the

670
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: moment of the when I'm on the show, I get

671
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: to take off my mask and I noticed the small

672
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: crumpled shoulder of one person where Alan had actually tapped

673
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: them on the shoulder to pick them as a trader,

674
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: and you call out the perfect thing, Like I thought

675
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: that was this, Like I heard a laugh and it

676
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, he's gonna say Candace's kid. I was like, ugh,

677
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: and then nope, no, not a thing, no, nope.

678
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it lined up perfectly with Colton's Tiffany theory perfectly.

679
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: Pretty much everybody just yeped for Tiffany, which yeah, I.

680
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: Mean I I could see.

681
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Myself like I would totally trust that because it actually

682
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: has some logic.

683
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: Most people said it wasn't Colton either. A lot of

684
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: people afterwards said when I heard what Eric said, yeah,

685
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: and that's what made me change my vote. And so

686
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: it's you are looking for somebody who has here's the thing.

687
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: They're looking for somebody who has solid evidence unless it's

688
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: coming from Ron and then they and then they don't care.

689
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Anybody care exactly.

690
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: And it's it's you know, like Colton and Eric like

691
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: the response after like this if by the logic that

692
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: they're going after Ron or they've gone after a lot

693
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: of people, they should turn on Colton and Eric and

694
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: they don't.

695
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Nope at all, although spoiler alert in later episodes. In

696
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: a later episode, it seems like Colton's name is now

697
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: starting to be thrown around a bit. Yes, yes, but not.

698
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Eric's not Eric like at all, like and you know, actually,

699
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: if he was a trader, it would be a brilliant

700
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: move to just get somebody out that you don't want.

701
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: Really, you know, say this laugh thing.

702
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: It's great.

703
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: God, I just don't know how I.

704
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: Would play this game. I'd be so bad at it.

705
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: Dude, I don't think you would be. I honestly do

706
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: not think you would be. I think you would get there,

707
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: and I think you'd well, it depends. I think if

708
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: you were a faithful you would get there. You would

709
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: let everything go, you'd enjoy your breakfast, you'd have fun

710
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: with the challenges, and then you'd try to figure out

711
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: what was going on. If you were a trader, it

712
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: might be a little rough you because just because you

713
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: don't like to lie to people. Yeah, so you'd figure

714
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: it out. Though, you'd figure it out. Well, we'll have

715
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: to see what we play. Maybe we can be a team.

716
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: So at this point we're already an episode ahead. But

717
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: do you remember who you thought would be murdered?

718
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: No, God, I don't. Do you remember who you thought

719
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: would be murdered? I thought Steven? Actually did you?

720
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: Or you kill Eric? Because everyone knows that he, you know,

721
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: messed up.

722
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: And you mean not be not banished? Do you mean murderer?

723
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

724
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: So do we get through the banishment? We know it's Tiffany.

725
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: Tiffany gets banished and of course reveals that.

726
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: She goes through the circle of you and tells everybody

727
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: what she is a faithful? What do you? What do

728
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: you like?

729
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: I mean, has anybody ever just stood there and been

730
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: like I'm a faithful, I'm a trader and walked out?

731
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Or they always have to give.

732
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 2: No, I think they always want to speak. I remember

733
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: the one I remember the most was the very first

734
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: person kicked off last season was Wells Adams. You and

735
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: I met Wells at one of the iHeart parties. He

736
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: came to dinner with us. He's married to Sarah Hyland

737
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: and he was on The Bachelor I think or one

738
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: of these things survive or something like that mm hm.

739
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: And he was the first one to go and they

740
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: just picked him like somebody went I think it's wells

741
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: And I remember him he was pissed, like he was like,

742
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: way to go, everybody, nice job, like that kind of thing.

743
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: So yeah, you could tell him first person to leave.

744
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: He was upset about it. But unlike Dona Kelsey, who

745
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 2: was like, you did it. You caught a trader, right.

746
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: I think now people are really starting to get are

747
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: going to start getting more and more personal. And this

748
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: is also the first time I had ever seen anybody

749
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: in Tiffany say I need the money. I know. I'd

750
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: never heard that before.

751
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because it's not a whole lot of money,

752
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: just compared to other shows like Survivor you get a

753
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: million dollars, you know, and it's been that way forever,

754
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: like a lot of these shows. You know, it just

755
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: seems like the money is not.

756
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Really the point of this show, right, right. But that's

757
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: why I was amazed, where she was like like I'm

758
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: crying and saying I need the money.

759
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: I know.

760
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's that was I'd never seen it before.

761
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: That was tough.

762
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because they're celebrities, right, Like most of these

763
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: people are probably pretty well off.

764
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: Zoom or yeah, but you never you just never know.

765
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: You never know.

766
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Tiffany is banished and the Traders get together

767
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: to discuss who they're going to murder. And at this

768
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: point I did I thought Steven would be the one

769
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: to go.

770
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: I actually do remember who I picked, and I turned

771
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: out I was right, really because only because it's the

772
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 2: only person to ever have one of the traders names

773
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: cross their lips. That was the only only time he'd

774
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: ever heard it. So I was like, Hey, if that

775
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: person's up, they gotta go. That's what I would say

776
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: if I was a trader. It's like one person your

777
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: name came out of one person's mouth. That person's got

778
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: to go. And then they even talk about well, hopefully

779
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm the only one they took because he told it.

780
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: This person told it to Candice, right.

781
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: See, I had a feeling, I because because Eric messed

782
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: up so bad, right, and I think it was pretty

783
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: obvious that he felt bad.

784
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that it was you know that.

785
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: Like I think murdering him because now I feel like

786
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna work so hard to get everybody on

787
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: his side, and everyone's gonna be like, oh, he wouldn't

788
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: he's can't be a trader, like you.

789
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: Know, but why does he get such a pass for

790
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: that huge faux pas? And Ron is still in the

791
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: proverbial cage, like I don't understand it.

792
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think maybe Ron is just not he's just

793
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: not personal enough, you know.

794
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, I think he's just

795
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: a Yeah, it's like you haven't gotten to know anybody.

796
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then but it's also double edged store.

797
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you're way too friendly. You've got to

798
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: be a trade right, That's what I mean. Where's the balance?

799
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: That's why I think he's looking at it as like, oh,

800
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: it's a strategy game, let's play the strategy. And other

801
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: people are like it's a personality social mind game, and

802
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it that way. It's like, I don't know,

803
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: it sucks. I don't know either, all right. Any final

804
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: thoughts before we end this episode.

805
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: Well, I have to ask you. We're now five in

806
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: or four in excuse me, at the end of four

807
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: do you have any hot takes on who you think

808
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: is gonna win? Do you still are you sticking with uh,

809
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: with your your girl Natalie or who do you think

810
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: who do you think is there at the end. Oh god, I.

811
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: Mean, I'm starting to think the Traders are just killing it.

812
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: They're doing well, and now that they're more in control,

813
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: because really they're doing this well and they well, you

814
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't even think that they're

815
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: doing that well. I think the Faithful are doing so poorly.

816
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: That's what it is that I think you're right. But

817
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of the two. I think

818
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Rob is playing it very well. I think the other

819
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: I think Candice has pulled.

820
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: It back a little bit, which is good, But I

821
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: do I don't think I think everybody else when you're

822
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: everybody's following somebody like Colton, which seems like what they're doing,

823
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: and Colton keeps swinging wrong. Yes, he's just doing the

824
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: work for the Traders.

825
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: They don't have to do anything exactly. Yeah, and yeah,

826
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: everybody's playing horribly on the field side, and so the Traders,

827
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they've been kind of lucky because

828
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: all the the Donna's choices for them for the murder

829
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: that were horrible, so they didn't actually get to have

830
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: that much strategy in those first episodes, you know, But

831
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: now that she's gone, and that they are in control.

832
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: No one's guessing them, no one's thinking about them, and

833
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: they're all just all over the place. It's so I'm

834
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: not feeling I feel like there might be a trader win.

835
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: It's definitely a possibility. I also would like to throw

836
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: somebody out there as a hot take for being there

837
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 2: at the end. I think people really like, and I

838
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: do too, Johnny Whir And I think there's a chance

839
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: Johnny's there at or near the end of the game. Yeah,

840
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: flying under the radar, funny, personable. People seem to like them.

841
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Nobody I think has set his name or come even

842
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: close to saying his name. I think there's a chance

843
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: that Johnny could be there towards the end.

844
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, so how does it work, because I really like

845
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: if the traders win, do they all win? Do they

846
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: all three have to win?

847
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: Or just like one trader, one trader is there at

848
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: the end and then that person gets all the money.

849
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: If there's multiple traders at the end, they split it. Yeah,

850
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: so that's and it's yeah, it's like they stand around

851
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: a fire, of course, because nothing can be easy. They

852
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: stand around the fire. They get the blood of truth,

853
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: they take the blood of truth to the Temple of Galam. No,

854
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: they have they stand around the fire and they all

855
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: have to decide we're all faithful's here, I try, we're

856
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: all faithfuls. Let's end the game. And then they like

857
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: throw their thing into the fire to show like it's

858
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 2: green or what burns green or something, and it shows

859
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: that the game is over, and so they're ready to go,

860
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: and then they find out whether they're all faithfuls or

861
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: whether some of the traders. So last season, four people

862
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: were there and they all made it. They were all trade,

863
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: all faithfuls. But if one trader's there and has fooled everybody,

864
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: then that person gets all the money. So is it

865
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: possible for just traders to be sure? I would imagine.

866
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't know how that would happen.

867
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: But if they murder everybody, they might look around and

868
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: we just won. What do we do now? So yeah,

869
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: it's it's so interesting. But I think you're right. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're playing particularly well. And I think the

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Speaker 2: more personal and judgmental you get, and the more you

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Speaker 2: take it personally, the worse you play. Yes, And I

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Speaker 2: think that's we're going to start seeing that more and

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Speaker 2: more yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well that's it for this episode of Pod meets Twirled.

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Speaker 1: Alliances were tested, trust misplaced.

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Speaker 2: And once again we've been left with the cliffhanger.

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Speaker 1: Join us next time as we continue our journey through

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Speaker 1: season four of Traders, a show in which, as Shakespeare

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Speaker 1: said in a Scottish play, fair is foul and foul

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Speaker 1: is fair