WEBVTT - Jim Rash 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.480 This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.920 and see my brand new comedy hour well as Actually 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.400 it's about an hour and a half and I don't 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.000 have an opener because these guys cost money. But what 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.000 I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway, 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.560 come and see me live on the Pants on Fire 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:19.720 Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now and 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.160 we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.960 twenty five and beyond. For a full list of dates, 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:30.280 go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com. See you 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:35.000 on the road, my DearS. My name is Craig Ferguson. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.440 The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.839 interest in people about what brings them happiness. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.360 Welcome to the Joy Podcast. Welcome to the Kids Super 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:49.360 Studios here. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.519 In Brooklyn, New York, where inside the tent today, my 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.440 guest will not be here because this is one of 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.400 the rare shows we're going to do remotely. I'm doing 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.720 the show remotely, as in it's kind of like a 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.319 zoom call, like the way I'm talking to you right now, 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.959 but I'll be talking to my guest Jim rash Jim 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.640 is a writer, an actor, and performer, and an improv 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.440 guy who was a frequent guest on the old late 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.240 night show of Mine, and he was in a show 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.000 called Community, which one is one of the great American sitcoms. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.600 Slightly unsung. Those who are into it are really into it, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.679 and those who are not into it. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.200 I've never heard of it, kind of like me. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:40.680 Please welcome Jim rash Jim. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.200 Yes, I've broken my rule for you. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.480 I had this rule that I wasn't going to do 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.240 any more remote podcasts. Oh, but I've broken it for 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.080 you for two reasons. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.240 One because it's you and I adore you. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:53.960 Thank you. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.600 Two because I heard you had your kitchen done. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.080 But I'm I'm on the East Coast and I and 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.000 I wanted to be able to see it. But at 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.640 the same time, I wasn't prepared to make you know, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.480 trends go intinntal flight for just and I know I've 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.600 talked up this kitchen and you've been going on about 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:14.880 it and dying to see it. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.120 So this is this is a win win for both 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.600 of us because I'm so very proud. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.320 You should be proud. Now let me, did you design 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.160 it yourself. Are you a design Are you a house 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.360 design any person? No, not at all. And for those 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.639 washing I feel like I'm stereotyping you there a little 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.760 bit because I feel like I'm like, oh, you probably 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.120 do your own design, if. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.240 You know what I mean, but you probably don't. No, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.920 I just get it. The gays get it. No, I 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.440 have a friend who is much better at this. I'm 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.359 one of those people that point and go I like that, 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.320 you know that kind of that kind of eye. And 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.919 then you always want somebody who's going to do something 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.840 that you don't even think of. So not that this 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.360 kitchen is like out of the ordinary, and most people 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.000 listening are going, oh, do you really have this kitchen done? 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:58.600 But this is like seven years old, and come on, 0:02:58.800 --> 0:02:59.840 it's not that crazy. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.600 I think is pretty great. And also what what you 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:07.880 wander with the designers? You want cohesion? Cohesion? Cohesion, because 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.920 I like I I can I do what you do? 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.240 I go, wow, like that, But do I know, say 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.000 we that is nice, but you've got to have you know, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.280 if you're going to have that, you've got to have that. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.760 You don't want to do like you know, theme rooms 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:32.000 like flag thing playing. Yeah, this is this is my kitchen. Yeah, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:32.919 is that your kitchen? 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:33.400 Actually? 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.720 Okay, No, I mean it's a choice. It's a choice. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.360 It's a choice. But I'm in a tent in Brooklyn. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.520 What it is? I mean, I don't know if you've 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.160 been to Brooklyn Williamsburg recently? Have you been to Williamsburg? 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.680 Not recently? I have? 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:53.840 I have been. Remember the TV show Portlandia. I do, yes, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.839 it's that. It's that's where I am. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.640 Okay, understood, it's Newbarkle, a little bit of Portland to Brooklyn. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.480 Well, I didn't bring it, it was here. I just turned 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.400 up bringing a little bit. I brought a little bit 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.600 of Scotland, but no so much of Scotland. So you're 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:16.760 just squatting in some tent. I have intent. I'm squatting 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.040 in Williamsburg. Where are you from? You know you have rights? 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.440 I have right from LA. Is that what you're going 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.080 to ask? Yeah, I was going to say, I think 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.800 I think of you as being East coasty, but you're actually. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.320 No right, No Iam east coast in the sense of southeast. 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.360 I grew up in North Carolina, so so yes in 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:36.920 that sense. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.800 But I grew up in Charlotte. I love Charlotte did 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:42.120 you ever? 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.400 You know they have that really good comedy club there, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.520 the Comedy Zone. I think. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.160 I have never been there. It's also been a hot 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.480 minute since I've been in Charlotte's. I've lived in LA 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.480 for thirty years and I was at school in Chapel 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.560 Hill and that was just a quite a bit of 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.360 go So that was you know. I have family still there, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.719 but I don't get there as much these days. Why 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.000 wouldn't you go back to Charlotte? It's I mean, oh, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.800 I just you. I have family there and I just 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.000 don't get there that much. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.840 That's why I don't go to Scotland. No, I also 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.240 have family in Scotland. Yeah, that's true, you know I don't. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.279 That's not the reason. I just haven't been back east 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.440 some time. They've been coming here. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.600 So that's it. You know, it's probably my turn now. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.599 I haven't seen you in a while. Did you get 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.320 damaged in either? Have you been rioted or fired? Not? 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.599 Fire doesn't work, fired button, fire, dozen on fire fired before, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:39.479 but not in that way. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.440 But no, I I you know, gratefully did not have to. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.919 I left my house at one point because there was 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.120 a fire when a very brief one broke out in 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.000 run Yan Canyon. Oh yeah, and that was one of 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.640 those ones where you're looking at it and go yeah, even 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.800 though it's not close, too close for me. So I 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.440 went one night to a friend's house, but that was 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.080 put out pretty fast. And but no, no, I uh, 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.240 I am thankful unfortunately have friends who were not who 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.000 lived in Altadena and stuff. But you know, it was 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.480 quite a time, quite a time. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.479 Yeah, I mean watching it from Afar, I mean I 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.400 lived in LA for twenty three years and watching it 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.479 the neighborhoods grew up. I was like, oh my god, 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:27.719 that's crazy, Like I mean, it's not it's very yeah, 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.799 which it like no, is it the air better and stuff? 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:32.080 Well, I guess so. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.720 But you know that season's coming, so you know, everyone 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.560 got like the watch Duty app which was like saved 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:38.840 probably everybody. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:39.160 You know. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.000 It was very up to date and that's already you 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.360 know now and then going off they're small like quickly 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.800 put out things. But you know that's it is. That 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.400 time of year is coming to us. 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.000 Fire season. I don't know that fire should be a season. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.080 There's one of the at all no these I live 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.039 in New York City no, and it's it's different. Every 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:06.120 day is weed, pee and rat smell. That's the season. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.080 But that's at least you at least you expect one season. 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.720 Sort of, how la is almost the same temperature you 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.520 get up in the morning. You know, great, pe rats 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.240 all is right in the world, and weed all is 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:19.840 right in the world. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.080 Yeah, yeah, I don't. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.200 I feel like it's a little bit of an imposition 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.720 the weed smell because I don't smoke weed. You smoke weed. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.280 I do not, right, That's not said as a judgment. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.760 I just don't. No, I'm not judging people for doing it. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.080 I just don't feel I should have to participate in it. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:37.320 Do you know what I mean. I'm getting a lot 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.800 of secondhand weed smell. Yeah, understood. Yeah, I don't care 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:42.040 for it. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:46.560 I'm just I was bad at it, you know, like 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.960 I've done even nibbling an edible. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:50.760 I did it wrong. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:55.000 I just I don't like I guess some people some 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.720 people just know how and and their personality or something 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.880 it reacts right way. I just I'm the one who 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.400 gets quiet, and which might be great for other people, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.360 but I get quiet and I get in my head 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.200 and then all I'm doing is having a dialogu where 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.240 I'm like, you're not speaking gym, You're not saying anything. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.640 And I was like, while that might be beneficial to 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.679 those around me, it isn't to me in my head. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.040 So I was like, I'm not doing this correctly. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.760 You were right when you look at because I mean, 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:23.840 I think. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.040 Of you obviously as a performer stough, but I always 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.240 think of you as a writer too. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.400 Do you ever have any do you have any good ideas? 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.520 When you were like, because there is this myth, Well 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.360 maybe it's not a myth for some people. For me, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.200 I could never come up with anything when I was high. Nothing. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:42.360 No, I don't think it does me creatively right, and 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.600 that that I can remember because obviously I don't do it. 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.839 So if I did, I would have kept doing it 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.400 if it was more fruitful than me just staring at 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.199 a blank page, cold sober. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.840 Yeah, I think that that kind of terror is what 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.000 gets me to work, is when I see that you 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.600 know there, if I don't do anything here, there's going 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.240 to be a problem. As opposed to I'm busy thinking 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.480 like I think type first, think later. That's my approach, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:13.160 and certainly that seems to be Yeah, you know, observable 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.040 in my output, like clearly he types first then thinks later, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:17.880 oh yeah yeah. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.960 Well then somebody is going to say, you know, every 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.320 every book is going to say their version of that, 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.839 oh right from your first past, just right from your heart, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.840 don't you know, don't edit or whatever. I find that 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:35.320 enviable but personally impossible. I I I write, rewrite, but 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:36.680 the same you. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.360 Got to rewrite. You got to like go back and 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:39.920 go back, go back, go back all the time. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.480 Are you writing right now? Are you writing anything? Just now? 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:44.120 I am? 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.440 I just I just finished editing something I had written 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:54.120 closer to pandemic year and and just starting outlining something 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:55.360 at the moment. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.360 So it's a movie. You did a movie. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.839 It's a movie. It's it's based on it is a 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.920 true story, which I've never done, like something a real 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:14.000 persons story. But I'm taking a stab at it, and 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.320 see if I do you remember Team well, they went 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.360 by a team named Team Hoyt last name h o 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:27.120 y T. The father pushed his quadripletic son who had 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:33.600 serebral palsy through Belfston marathons, triathlons, and so they were 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:38.600 a team for a good Lord. They ran thirty marathons, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.560 you know, and he would just push his son through 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.880 all these things. And then they were very high in 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:50.440 activism for differently abled people and and quite an inspirational story. 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:52.800 Do you have any connection to that world? Do you 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.240 are you close to anyone who's in that position? 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:00.199 No, No, I just it was just I think I'm 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.160 working with nat Fax and who I often work with, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.040 and I think it's just a beautiful story and and 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.280 there was like a lot of elements to it that 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.480 I felt that we felt fit within the things that 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.520 we like. There's a lot of comedy and drama happening 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.480 at the same time, which I'm always attracted to. So yeah, 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.560 so we're just starting that process of digging through all 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.760 because there's when you're doing these kind of things, there's 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.480 so many interviews, so many there are books and stuff, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.480 so you're really there's a lot to dig through and 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.160 you're spending a long period of time, so that's another challenge. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.199 Yeah. I was great. I'm glad you brought up not 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.079 because I was. I didn't know if you and I 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.400 were still working together, or if you had some horrible 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.120 argument and they weren't talking to each other. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.560 So I'm glad to hear that you're not well. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.000 The second statement is true. There's always a horrible argument, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:50.160 but we are still together. I find him, I find him, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.760 and I say this with love. Just reprehensible. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.480 Yeah, you know, it's funny. You are a very odd couple. 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.000 I mean, I know you're not a couple, but but 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.079 but you're You're an odd duel. You see, very different, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:08.840 and yet the stuff that you do has a very 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.000 definite voice to it, like all of its own. It's 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.680 kind of it's interesting to me. Have you ever thought 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.080 of appearing as the odd couple? I think the Neil 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.880 Simon played with you and that fact. There's something there, 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.080 you know. You know. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:23.640 The one thing I do know is no one's tired 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.880 of watching the odd couple on stage or ever. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.360 So so no, I'm serious. It is it is. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:35.240 It is a a coupling that always works. Now we 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.480 we will maybe one day we'll get into regional theater 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.280 and actually do the odd couple, odd couple. But we are, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.480 we are very different, and I think that works to 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.200 our benefit. You know, we have and that's how we 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.360 operate at the groundlings, I think you just find people 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.920 that you sync up with, you know, comedically, and and 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.720 then I think we just have a nice way of 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.959 working together for the most part, which means which is comfortable, 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.120 which is me saying that get out of here and 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:03.000 let me just do this. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.880 Get out and let me finish this. Yeah. Yeah, I 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.760 feel like I observed that as well. Is that what 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.040 you met at Groundlings? 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.520 Yeah, we met at Groundlings in what's called the Sunday Company, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.520 right before the main company. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.559 What's the Sunday Company. 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.720 Well, there's so many there levels. You know, you start 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:24.960 the school and everyone starts at the same place. You know, 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.840 you have like basic improv and intermediate improv, and you 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.080 work on your way to the Sunday Company, which literally 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.360 performs on Sunday and sort of like your last stage 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.680 to hopefully make it into the main stage, the main 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.440 Groundings Company. So a lot of people spend up to 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.720 a year and a half in the Sunday Company and 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.360 then hopefully get into the main company. So it's a 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:46.200 very fun time. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.679 I did. I made it. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.320 I was in the I was an actual main community 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.880 for thirteen years and I still performed the day I'm 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.040 getting ready to direct the next main show. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.200 So I have never left. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.400 I just you know, at one point you become an 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.439 alum because you don't want to deal with uh mass 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.160 emails and voting right. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.800 And I feel like I feel Groundlings is a bit 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.040 like Catholicism that once you know, once you're in, you 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.760 don't you don't get out, like maybe the mafia, you know, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.480 comedy in comedy out you know, there's no no way 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.720 to doing it any other way. No, it's one way through. Yeah, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.120 it does seem like a like is it? Can I 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.040 say it's a cult? I think it's a cult. Yeah, 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.760 I mean I know it's not, but I like saying 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.800 it is. I mean, let me, are we drinking blood? 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.480 Sure, but I mean other other than because if you 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.120 don't have someone else's blood in the taste of it, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:49.080 you can't perform or find a comedic connecting thread. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.560 I mean that's a lot a lot of people don't 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.520 know that about show business. Then you have to. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.200 Drink blood before you get one stand. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:57.160 Uda Haggens said it. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.720 Even in acting, you really need to taste blood of 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.920 your partner in order to really connect on stage. And 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.000 don't anybody look that up. But that's what Uda Hagen said. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.520 I love that you referenced uttah Hagen you're welcome. That's 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:13.600 no right thing. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:21.440 Nina Hogen. No, Nina, it wasn't Nina Hagen. Ninety nine 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:22.680 Luft balloons. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:27.280 Oh, I did not know that, but I I love. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.800 That ninety nine balloons were just looking up right now? 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:36.760 Remember ninety nine? Yeah, yes, no, yeah, I knew it 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.440 because you would either hear it, well it was partly 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.680 in English or there was also by an all English version. Yes, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.960 I think it was an all English version which was 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:51.280 released for America. M She did not sing, well, that's 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:55.320 who Nina Hogen didn't. We're wrong. No, it was a 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.040 woman called Nina, but our second name was not. No, 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.840 it was because the Hagen thing. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.280 I was going to say, because I remember Nina Hagen 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.280 to be UDA's sister who always did not care for Uda, 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.040 because she was always assigned to be prop master for 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.360 UDA's actings. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:21.560 You remember, Nina, that would be a lot of work blogs, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.400 I said, Well, I think that's what I said. I 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.960 don't think let's talk a little about Utta Hagen, though 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:29.640 I don't want to let this draw up just yet 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.280 because I don't I feel like I don't know really 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.720 anything about Uta Hagen. Do you know much about Utta 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.560 Hagen to me, I do not. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.120 The fact that I referenced her was mostly a bit 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.560 I will say. I will say I I took it. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:48.400 I deactivated and took a little mentalist break from on Instagram. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.360 But at the time Instagram someone was uploading old clips 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.080 of Udah Hagen and teaching her acting classes, which were 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.760 a dream to watch as she's showing, you know, actors 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:04.240 in whatever period. This was from certain tricks and how 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.639 to be in a scene, and that was enthralling. But 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.280 that's as much as I have I have a mental 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:09.239 picture in my head of her. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.280 That's it. I think Uta Hagen was was the person 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:17.640 I remember talking about the illusion of spontaneity. I think 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.879 she said that you have to look like I just 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.639 thought of it. Well, you understand the words the illusion 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.880 of spontaneity. But that's I feel like that was hard. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.639 But that could have been Uta Lamper as well. It 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.679 was certainly a Nuta or maybe or maybe it was 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.600 Nina who sang ninety nine. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:38.159 Right right, and she's sang it. It was like the 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:38.720 first time. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.159 Yeah, it's safe for us to assume that there are 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:44.920 a lot of Uddahs out there and a lot of 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.840 people last named Hagen, who are very very key in 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:49.760 our lives. 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:55.280 You know that Sammy Hagar's real name no is Uta Hagar. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.240 I can see why he switched it up a little bit. Yeah, 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.399 and I think that was the right choice. I mean, Sammy, 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.400 so we're at a rock star relatable a Sammy. How 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:08.960 he's doing? 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.640 Yeah, because that's that's a rock stars talk apparently, Yeah, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:14.480 how he's doing? 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.240 And you also, I'm sure there were concerts where instead 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:19.920 of yelling out of a song they wanted to hear 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:20.400 they go. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.760 Tell us something about acting, you know, like like what 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:28.040 about the illusion? Yeah, forget and I know this is 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.080 not him, but forget freebird. Tell us how the best 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.440 way to block a scene? Yes, that's what. What is 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.159 the best way to block a scene? I always think 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.200 it's good to have all the actors standing in the light, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.080 shouting towards the front, and then everybody is able to 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.360 break up on what's going on. 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.199 I always tell them, don't cheat out, be out, like 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.480 be out, don't look at your scene partner, connect only 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.720 with the audience and throw everything right at them and. 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.400 As loud as possible. And if you have to shout no, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:57.960 that's okay. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.720 I don't say projected the back, I say project to 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:01.480 another state. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.720 That's right. Just just yell as loud as you can, 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.320 and it does. It's okay to look like you're yelling 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.600 a lot of people. They'll get it, they'll understand what 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:10.199 you're trying to do. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.280 Yeah, and then I tell them, if the scene is 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.960 about anger, choose one note and stay there. 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.520 Yeah, and start big, Like if it's an angry scene, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.600 start really angry and stay really angry. 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.080 I always say, anyone who tells you to build from 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.720 a place doesn't know what it means to construct a scene. 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.440 That person needs to quit and go open up any 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.720 type of shop. But don't tell me how to build 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:41.240 a scene. Start big and go bigger. I always like. 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.159 There's a very complicated I call it the the bone 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.040 Jovi acting technique. This is how I like to do it. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.240 By Jeovie songs, me to do big noise. Then there's 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.880 a little bit of things, then a big noise. That's 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.480 how I like to do act. Right, shout something, then 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.560 I do yeah, then I shout it again. 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:05.040 Yeah, and then it's always oh it. Acting is like 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.480 performing a song. There's a verse, there's a chorus, there's 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.439 a bridge, right. So if i'm if the scene is, 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.080 you know, I'm upset. I'm telling this person to get 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:19.400 out out of there. I'm like, gout and here's what 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:20.800