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Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies, a Myth and Bullshit, a radiophonic

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Speaker 1: novella Local Radio hosted by Malamuno Allla. Hello, Hello, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: This is the FM and this is Mala Munos. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to yet another carpitulo of Brown Girl Our Yes,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to local radio. Local radio is where we

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Speaker 1: celebrate the brilliance and legacies of women and fems of color.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited for another installment of Brown Girl Hour

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Speaker 1: and this carpitulo is really exciting, Like I am so

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Speaker 1: excited to start talking about our topic today. Yes so

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Speaker 1: am I? Um, thank you for tuning back into our

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Speaker 1: radiophonic novella, another installment. So before we get to our content,

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Speaker 1: we want to do some updates. Yes, um, some housekeep

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Speaker 1: some housekeeping. Yes, So we want to shout out the

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Speaker 1: women from Word Agency. We open real doors. Zoila and

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Speaker 1: Angela of Word Agency. They're amazing. Move head is making

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Speaker 1: moves in l a from New York. Yes, both Dominicans.

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Speaker 1: They're amazing. They're amazing, and they invited us to a

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Speaker 1: premier this past week of screening screening, so let's let's

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Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah. So um Zoila and Angela of

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Speaker 1: Word Agency. UM. They are involved in entertainment and events. UM.

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Speaker 1: They represent different talent. UM. The first time that we

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Speaker 1: ever went to anyone of their events, they actually hosted

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Speaker 1: a show for Tony Perralta here at the Mexican Consulate

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, so that was them and they brought

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Speaker 1: him in his art out here. And um, this week,

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Speaker 1: Biosa and I we were really fortunate enough to be

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Speaker 1: at the Landmark Theater and why l A UM for

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Speaker 1: a new John Singleton series called Snowfall, premiering on f

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Speaker 1: X yes on July fit so this Wednesday. Yeah, UM,

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Speaker 1: and it was really good. It was, of course just

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Speaker 1: the pilot and they had the whole cast there, so

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Speaker 1: that was really cool. They did a Q and they

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Speaker 1: did a Q and a UM, and it's it's such

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Speaker 1: a good show. I mean, the pilot was so good

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Speaker 1: because it really captures l A in the eighties. UM,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like it's super authentic at least to me,

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Speaker 1: John Singleton has a way of doing that with Los Angeles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he knows how to make movies about l A because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in the entertainment industry are not

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Speaker 1: from Hollywood or not from California. Discussing that afterwards, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's odd and it's difficult to find people who are

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Speaker 1: do have a director who's born and bred in l A. UM.

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Speaker 1: He came out of USC Film School, and he creates

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Speaker 1: narratives that really are cemented in the black experience in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It's hard to find and it's also the

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Speaker 1: work is amazing. So check out Snowfall on ffx UM.

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Speaker 1: And also about that premiere, I was I was geeked.

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Speaker 1: so funny. We spotted some some people there. Well, I

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Speaker 1: um Love, Love and Hip Hop. Like I watch New York, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: aren't talking about multidimensional hose. Yes, multidimensional is near and

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Speaker 1: We love this topic, love this topic. We wanted to

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Speaker 1: do a check in because at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 1: this is actually how we decided to record to talk

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Speaker 1: about this topic today. Um, at the beginning of the year, everyone,

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Speaker 1: all of our friends, mommy collective, we were all about

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Speaker 1: dump him two K seventeen, dumped them to K seventeen,

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Speaker 1: dump your partner, dump your partner two K seventeen. Sorry

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Speaker 1: not sorry, yeah, okay, and a lot of us did

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Speaker 1: you know? So we did. And it's summer now, and

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Speaker 1: with our resolution because all of us, I think, every

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Speaker 1: slippery fucking slope. It's a trap. It's dangerous, it's a trap.

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Speaker 1: will some way, somehow. Um So, as far as like

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna read the definition. I love it

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Speaker 1: politics exactly, and I love it exactly. It's not just

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Speaker 1: it's also a politics, highly political. If you're if you're

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Speaker 1: pro ho, if you're a feminist, you should be pro ho.

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Speaker 1: budda positive, which means that we are not supporting um,

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Speaker 1: contact because I know that it'll mess me up. Right,

423
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: So that takes a lot of like thinking ahead because

424
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: it's happened to me where I haven't taken them out

425
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: and then I pluck. It's bad in the morning, Like

426
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: I can't see, my eyes are dry. It's bad. So

427
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: have that with you, keep it somewhere you can reach,

428
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: and you know these listen, let's be honest. Activities can

429
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: leave can leave you really hungry. Um, it's no guarantee

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00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: that you're going to get fed, which we all should

431
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: get fed. The least that they can do order it

432
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: seamless whatever, I don't mind. But anyways, maybe some granola bars.

433
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: Keep a snack in your car because you might be

434
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: hungry and you need to feed yourself after all the

435
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: work you've just done. You know, I love it. So

436
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: there's that. And home kids, we want to know more

437
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: about your home kids her hoe tips tips, Yes. And hospirations.

438
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: We have a lot of hospirations, a lot of people

439
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: who have come before us, who have paved the way,

440
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: who have you know, put forth the legacy and we're

441
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: just walking in their light. Um let's talk about our hospirations. Yeah, definitely. Um,

442
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: we so wow, we have so many, so many. I mean,

443
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: I think someone that we can all identify and like

444
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: she is so amazing and coordinates the slut walk in

445
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: l A is Amber Rose. Love me some amber Rose.

446
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: You know she love amber She Yeah, she will post

447
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: a thirst trap on Instagram all the time, you know,

448
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: and she and it's a thousand tweets and she is

449
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: also she's a really good example of a multidimensional home

450
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: very much. She's a mother, right And and somebody posted

451
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: the other day, oh I saw this thing on Twitter

452
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: of the baby Sebastian. Yes, someone posted this thing on

453
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: Twitter about like how women women know what they're doing,

454
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: Like we will dress to the occasion. You're not going

455
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: to wear like a see through blouse to meet your

456
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: partner's parents, right or whatever necessarily necessarily right. But maybe

457
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: you will when you're going to take yourselfie and post

458
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: it on your Instagram. Right. But when she's out in

459
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: about with her with her son, like she's wearing what

460
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: you would deem as like mom clothes or like appropriate

461
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: quote end close, Right, So I don't know multi dimensional.

462
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: She she is very multidimensional. She's a businesswoman, an entrepreneur.

463
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: She is. She organizes now the slut Walk and organizes

464
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: the conference that will be I believe in l A

465
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: in August or September. So well, let's talk about that

466
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: because Ambrose is behind like a big conference and what's

467
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: the name of the conference? Do we know that we're

468
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: trying to be there? We really want to, we want to,

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00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: and so this conference is I believe it's called Opened

470
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: Women's Conference, and they have five pillars which I love,

471
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: and it's women in power meant diversity and inclusion, Digital

472
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: activism which I love, Financial literacy, literacy, and entrepreneurship, which

473
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: is what we're all about. Which is what we're all about.

474
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: That is what we are, That is what we are about.

475
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: So that's amazing. Yeah, and then we're going to try

476
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: and be there. We really want to be there. So

477
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: the little like blur for the conferences where unedited conversation

478
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: meets education, compassion, and sheer desire to enact change. Get

479
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: ready to strip yourself of judgments, open your minds to

480
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: embrace candid conversations that will redefine raw transparency. Boom, and

481
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: I love strip in that she was a dancer. She

482
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: was a dancer her in Black China. Yeah, the whole BFFs.

483
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, and I you know, um, Amber

484
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Rose is really awesome to me, Like I really appreciate

485
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: her because she is somebody who I find to be

486
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: very bold. I find her to be very honest. Um,

487
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: I find her to be she just sticks to who

488
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: she is. You know when when our world, in our

489
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: society in Hollywood is very quick to criticize and tear

490
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: down especially women, especially women of color, who are in

491
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: the public eye, and there's so much slut shaming in

492
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: our society. Were considered a Christian society in a lot

493
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: of ways that like puritan Like the thing is there

494
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: that puritan you know, like framework is there even though

495
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: none of us like asked to be a part of

496
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: it or signed up for it. It's there and we

497
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: exist in it. And Amber Roses from New England, right,

498
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: and she talks about how she started dancing when she

499
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: was young, when she was a teenager, because she was

500
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: trying to help out with her family. Actually, so it's

501
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: just always crazy to me how like, you know, sex workers, strippers,

502
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: dancers are looked down on or talked down on or denigrated, um,

503
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: but like their patrons are not, you know, their customers aren't. Yeah, exactly,

504
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: And that goes back to like economy, like the content

505
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: who has the money has the money? Will the patrons

506
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: do because they were the customers the men. Yeah, absolutely

507
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: that we're paying to to receive some type of entertainment

508
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: in this age, service of some sort. When i UM

509
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: this week, I did some trainings for like therapists and

510
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: professionals and law enforcement about sex trafficking and working with

511
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: survivors of sex trafficking and the red flags, the warning signs,

512
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: trauma informed care, all of that stuff. Trauma informed language important.

513
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: And one of the questions that I ask always is,

514
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, why is there such a stigma placed on

515
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: sex workers, on prostitutes, on strippers. Why don't people generally

516
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: in our public think fondly or kindly about strippers? Why

517
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: do we talk badly about them? And it was interesting

518
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: because the women in the room that are professionals and

519
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: work in the field, the women in the room like

520
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: responded to that question by saying, well, I think that

521
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, women have a negative view

522
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: because our husband's, our boyfriends, our dads, um, the men

523
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: in our family are spending their money on these women. Right.

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00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: And so my question then to them was, well, why

525
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: aren't we mad at the men for spending the money

526
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: in a way that you don't want them to. Right?

527
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: The dancer is dancing, She's doing her job doing and

528
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: dancing literally stripping is not harmful to anyone, now, no

529
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: one gets hurt. Yeah, Roxand Gay has a really right

530
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: um short story about this in her book Difficult Woman,

531
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: which I'm were Difficult Women which I really like, I

532
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: can't remember the name, but it's also about like following

533
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: like a mixed race sex worker, stripper, dancer, and like

534
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: the harassment that she faces. Right, but it's quote her job.

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00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to link that someone. Yeah. Roxane Gay has

536
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: a new book out called tonguer. Yeah, um, yeah, no, no, no,

537
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Roxane Gay is amazing, and she's another thinker woman of

538
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: color who I think tries to tries to to talk

539
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: about sex work. Right, I would call her like a

540
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: pro holes ho. Yeah, with the pro ho lens. She

541
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: tries to talk about sex or with the pro ho lens.

542
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: And I think that's so important. I hope and like

543
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I choose to read and learn from writers and thinkers

544
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: who are very vocally and intentionally pro ho. Yeah, absolutely,

545
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, And I mean we can

546
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: talk about a couple more of our hospirations. Right, So

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00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: we talked about Ambrose. Um, we we've mentioned now Roxanne

548
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: Gay also um little known. But also if you're on

549
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: social media a lot, maybe you've you've you've had this

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00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: conversation before. But another hospiration is um Maya Angelou. Yes,

551
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Maya Angelou. Um everything that she was poet, author, scholar, academic,

552
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: creative artist, She was also a sex worker. She was

553
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: formerly a sex worker. She was formerly an exotic dancer,

554
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: and that piece of her is not really spoken about

555
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: by people who write about Maya Angelou or people who

556
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: write biographies on her. Even trying to find the source

557
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: was difficult. But Maya Angelou in her interviews, she and

558
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: in her poetry, she talks about how she worked as

559
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: a sex worker. She talked about you know those experiences

560
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: in in pretty plain language, and so I am you know,

561
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: uh love Tumbler. Yes, before Twitter, there was tumbler. You know,

562
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: Tumbler Like there's all this critical analysis, there's all this

563
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: history on there, um. And I really appreciate the space

564
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: that tumbler has provided for women of color, firms of color,

565
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: queer folk, queer folk, sex worker, my, my queer friends.

566
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: They there's a community because I talk about like I

567
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: G community, right, but they talk about their Toddler queer community.

568
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: And that's so that's a whole different lens exactly. So anyways,

569
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: are big source that we have here. We have a couple.

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00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: We have a tumbler called stripper Notes dot tumbler dot com.

571
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: UM a blog by a stripper for strippers. And UM.

572
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: In this post that was I think either written or

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00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: shared by Miss and dream Mermaid. UM, they talk about,

574
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, when Maya Angelu died, when she passed away.

575
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: Um she died at the age of eighty six. UM

576
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: that the the author of this post is asking of

577
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: all of her accolades and the details of her life.

578
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: Why is it that so often UM her history as

579
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: a sex workers is left out, always and overlooked, And

580
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: so this author writes this um we can once again

581
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: boil it down to respectability, politics, and stigma. I am

582
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: angry about it. I find myself ruminating, considering wondering if

583
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: her work had been talked about as much as her

584
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: dancing with James Baldwin, or even her considerable, commanding and

585
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: lovely height of six feet what would the sex work

586
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: community look like today if we had talked about her

587
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: wonderful compassion for sex workers, how she never looked down

588
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: on them, and her refusal to be intimidated by invasive

589
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and obnoxious questioning about her sex working past. What would

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00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: sex workers around the world be saying today in her

591
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: memory of her life? Instead, we read post after post, obituary,

592
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: obituary after tribute calling her a pimp and saying she

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00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: had an unsuccessful stint as a prostitute. The most detailed

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00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: accounts currently online are making sure to emphasize that she

595
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: spent a brief stint, a short time in the sex industry,

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00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: so as to without explicit words solidify the shame they

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00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: believe she should have felt, the shame we should feel

598
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: as well. The media uses inflammatory terms to get clicks

599
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: and to emphasize the terrible and shameful secret that was

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00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: in actuality never a secret at all. Dr Angelou herself

601
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: says she was never ashamed. Quoting Dr Angelou, I wrote

602
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: about my experiences because I thought too many people will

603
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: tell young folks I never did anything wrong. Who me, never?

604
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: I I have no skeletons in my closet. In fact,

605
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: I have no closet. They lie like that, and then

606
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: young people find themselves in situations and they think, damn,

607
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: I must be a pretty bad guy. My mom or

608
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: dad never did anything wrong. They can't forgive themselves and

609
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 1: go on with their lives. So I wrote the book

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00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Gathered Together in My Name about my past as a

611
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: sex worker. UM. And My Angelou was also famous for saying,

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00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: very plainly, she had this really important quote, there are

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: many ways to prostitute oneself, right, and so UM, I

614
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: think it's so important to talk about my Angelou and

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00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: her history as a sex worker in action, and because

616
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: of all of her other incredible work, you know, and

617
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: it's true. There are many ways to prostitute oneself. Yeah, yeah,

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00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: not just by selling one's body absolutely, um. And who else?

619
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: Who are are other inspirations? Um? We talked about Also

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00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: Sylvia Rivera we did, yes, so um we we found

621
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: this article. Yeah, so Sylvia Rivera, she was a trans

622
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: woman of color sex worker UM lead the Stone Wall

623
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: riots along with Marsha P. Johnson and other another trans

624
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: queer folks that were there, um but really founded like

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00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: the QTPO liberation movement that was and later pushed out

626
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: by gay mainstream movements essentially um. Yeah. So also like

627
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: we can't talk about lgbt Q movement history without talking

628
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: about Sylvie Rivera and right, and so we we found

629
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: this article UM that was published on Broadly, which is

630
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: like the women's portion of Vice. UM and the author

631
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: Leonie rotoriic um didn't interview UM with a sex worker

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00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: by the name of Juno mac and UM. Juno talks

633
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: about how sex workers historically have been at the forefront

634
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: of a lot of movements and pushes for equality and

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00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: even you know, UM, citing resistance in the against the

636
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: prison industrial complex, in opposition to police violence and boarders

637
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: UM and the fight for drug decriminalization. Right, and so

638
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: this article also talks about UM the LGBT movement even

639
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: being hesitant to acknowledge and include sex workers and the

640
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: role of sex workers, and the role of queer sex

641
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: workers such as Sylvia Rivera Right, who was a transgender

642
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: sex worker UM and was so important in that history.

643
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: You know. So I think that when we talk also

644
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: about women's health, yes, about women's health, about our right

645
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: to a decent wage, I think that historically that sex

646
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: workers have been involved in those movements as well, right

647
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: for pay, quality, for pay in general, because sex work

648
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: is something that is criminalized and stigmatized. So how can

649
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: you have pay equality in that type of a situation. Yeah, so,

650
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: access to safe working conditions, access to healthcare, all of that,

651
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: all of that is important, all of that, And I

652
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: guess like for us, why do we identify, why do

653
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: we take on the pro ho Why is that our politic?

654
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: Why do we use that term how or reclaim it

655
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: or puta whatever it is that you like to call yourself, right,

656
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: why do we use those terms? You know, thinking about

657
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: it right now. So, prior to you know, ViOS f

658
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: M Right, I was for a hot minute on Instagram.

659
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: I was yeah, and I think um, creating that I

660
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: think came from a survivor standpoint. Right around that time,

661
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: I was like recovering from a sexual assault, um and

662
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things. So I think that is when

663
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: I really started to think about like hope practice um

664
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: and reclaiming my sexuality and wanting to feel like my

665
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: body was mine again, right, So really being able to

666
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: own my body, what I do with it. If I

667
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: take a photo, how I dress, so on me reclaiming

668
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: myself right because my power was taken from me, right,

669
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: so I need to get my power back. So how

670
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: am I doing that by dressing how I want and

671
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: not giving a fuck? Right, taking a photo and not

672
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: giving a fuck? Um? So really like survivor standpoint. I

673
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: love that. That's beautiful and I again right like hoism

674
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: should be survivor focused and survivor centric um for me.

675
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: I saw this tweet ones that or maybe I saw

676
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: it on Tumblr, but I saw it somewhere where somebody

677
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: had taken home and they turned it into an acronym

678
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: for heaven on Earth, which I love, and I'm like, well,

679
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: how is just heaven on Earth? So how can you

680
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: not right? So how can you not love it. That's

681
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: all we all want to be in heaven anyways, it's

682
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: right here. Um. And the other reason is because I

683
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: come from like a really um devout Catholic family. You know,

684
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: my grandmother loves church and and were Mexican Catholics. And

685
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: I went to Catholic school for like nine years and

686
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: it was a lot, and it was the type of

687
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: environment where UM talk about shaming girls for like our

688
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: bodies and our clothes. It's nothing but shame. It's one

689
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: shame oriented um education when it comes to girls are bodies,

690
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: queer students and their bodies. UM, when it comes to

691
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: sex education, it's just all shame. It's all shame. And

692
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: so I feel like for me, coming into hoism and

693
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: as practice is like letting go of all of that,

694
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: just kind of dispelling it for my body, like getting

695
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: rid of it, because the shame is it's crippling and

696
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: it's it's oppressive and it's not helpful, it's not it's

697
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: not healthy. Yeah, I think like because the same I

698
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: come from a religious family. So I think also tied

699
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: with that, it's like this whole idea of body count body.

700
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: So if you're if you come from a Catholic family

701
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: or a Christian family, a background. There's this emphasis on like, well,

702
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: you have to save yourself for a quote marriage, so

703
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: you can't have a high body count, like I don't

704
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: have anybody. You can't have anybody, can You should be

705
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: a virgin when you get married, And then if you do,

706
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: it should be like sub I'm gonna make a like

707
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: sub five, right, maybe maybe even that would be high

708
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: for some people, you know, which is fine. Do what

709
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: what you want with your body and who you who

710
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: you spend your time with, who you're intimate with. But

711
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: don't shame folks that perhaps have a higher body count

712
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: or don't need to keep counting. You don't need to

713
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: keep count if you don't want to. And I think

714
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: that's what's one really important thing about hoism is like

715
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: and feminism, womanism is you know, if you're not hurting

716
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: other people, if you're not causing harm to others, um,

717
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: and what you're doing is your truth, then it makes

718
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: you feel good, then do it. But you don't impose

719
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: your expectations and standards on anybody else. You just don't,

720
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, we expect everyone to respect boundaries, UM, to

721
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: not abuse other people, to treat others with respect, Like

722
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: that's basic human decency, you know. But to tell a

723
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: woman or to tell a fem person or anybody that

724
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 1: they can only have sex with so many, this many

725
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: people under these circumstances for these reasons, funk out of here. No,

726
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: not at all? Um? Why else? Why else do identify?

727
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I know the same? What else do I identify? Oh?

728
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: I think because you know, I think recently I have

729
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: really come to the realization that like my body is

730
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Like I just had this awakening, like this empiphany that wow,

731
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: like my body exists and like is living and breathing

732
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: for my own pleasure. Like my body is for me

733
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: and for nobody else, Like literally no one unless I

734
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: want to share my body with another person. Right, So

735
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: that's part of my hoism, is like I'm going to

736
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: use my body however I want to use it because

737
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: it's mine, you know. Yeah, there's something so powerful or

738
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: so beautiful about being naked with yourself, like physically naked. Um,

739
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: that's how I feel whenever. Like my like my post

740
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: shower ritual is always like coconut oil, moisturizing with coconut

741
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: and just like looking at myself literally like sitting in

742
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: my vanity, naked and just looking at myself, knowing my

743
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: body like that to me like that, that is my

744
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: whole praxis as well. Love, self care, self care, self

745
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: love absolutely, because is there is there not even just women?

746
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: Right masturbating? Is there not just that? That by itself

747
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: an activity that involves no other people? Right, you're doing

748
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: it by yourself. But there's a stigma to it. So

749
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: even just touching your own body, enjoying your own body,

750
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: you can be considered a hoe in a negative way, right,

751
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: because your body exists for the pleasure of a man,

752
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: of a man, of a man, not another partner, but

753
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: a man. But then, isn't it interesting then that sex

754
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: workers who are allowing ment to experience pleasure are so

755
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: stigmatized because they're benefiting financially from extra they're making money. See,

756
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: we're supposed to have sex for free, not come right,

757
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: And that's okay as long as expected as the other

758
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: person is getting off and they're happy. So I can't

759
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: benefit in any way physically, emotionally, economic, or else. It's derogatory.

760
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: I'm a home okay, Well, I am a home. Yeah.

761
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: And the long and the short of it, m hmm.

762
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: There's so much, so much, there's so much. Why do

763
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: you all identify as homes? Why do you identify that?

764
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: I used to in my Instagram bio. I used to

765
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: have multitasking, which I used to love. I saw that. Yeah,

766
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: that used to be my little like my my in

767
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: my bio for a while and I love that. And

768
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: I think that's the other part of it is like listen,

769
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: the holism. It's it's a practice, it's part of our politics,

770
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: but it doesn't it's not consuming our life all day

771
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: every day. We're doing a whole lot of stuff. Yeah,

772
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: I saw this, I saw this tweet the other a

773
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: few months ago. They're really stuck with me, and I

774
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: still think about it now. And it's about how women

775
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: or you know, folks that are are open, they're they're

776
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: sexually open, that they are like hot, like they're kind

777
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: of I want to find it, so I don't, but

778
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: but it's some The idea is that when you are

779
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: sexually free and you're open, and you you're very open, right,

780
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: then that's also taken advantage of, that's also exploited, right,

781
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: And I've I've found that to be true with past partners,

782
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: right that because I'm so open or maybe I'm a

783
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: quote ho. Well then she won't mind if this happens, right,

784
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, that's not true. Not so it's just it's

785
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: it's like what you're saying, Like, yes, it's not. This

786
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: does not consume my mind, Like I get, I'm multidimensional, right, Like,

787
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: just because I I like it this way, it doesn't

788
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: mean that you can do this either. There's still there's

789
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: there's still consents, don't needs to be involved in it

790
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: always and again pro ho. And I like, I get

791
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: frustrated with older feminists. I get frustrated with older feminists

792
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: and older feminists that I know in my life personally,

793
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: because there is always a very quick tendency to turn

794
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: your head around three D and sixty degrees when somebody

795
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: wants to mention ho slut slut walk selfies. You know,

796
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of respectability politics in feminism, and

797
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: especially when you're talking to older feminists, and it just

798
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: is and and I don't like it, and it's annoying,

799
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, And so I'm like no, because hoism means

800
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: exactly what trauma informed and survivor centered should mean, that

801
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: I again do with my body what I want when

802
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: I want, and that means I can be picky as hell,

803
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: and I am picky as hell. That means that I

804
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: say no to everybody that I want to say no to.

805
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: However I want to say no, And when I decide

806
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: to say yes, that's my choice and that's my option. Right.

807
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: But being pro HO means your pro ho all the

808
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: way around, your pro ho autonomy, your pro ho autonomy,

809
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: ho power like that your pro HO is making their

810
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: own choices about their own bodies. And and why I

811
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: engage with you sexually and why I don't because this right,

812
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: it is not a democracy, right I think about the

813
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: tweeted ones. This is not a democracy. The body is

814
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: not a democracy. It's a queendom. You know, you make

815
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: all of the rules for your body, and that's it.

816
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: Nobody gets to negotiate with you, exactly, queens like queen

817
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: queens them. Yes, the whole queendom. There are rules, There

818
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: are many rules, are rules, and I wrote I write them,

819
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's the constitution absolutely. And I think

820
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: this is part of the thing is that people hear

821
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: the term home or sexually liberated, they assume that there's

822
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: no boundaries, no rules, no boundaries, no morals, no limits.

823
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: I've found that with a partner in the past, where

824
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: a lot of things happened that I did not consent

825
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: to it. I was not okay with right. But because

826
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, she's open, she's down, she's this, she's that,

827
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: so she's not going to say no, No, that's not

828
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: that's not how consent works exactly anyway. So that's why

829
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: we have to have these conversation important important, especially, Yeah,

830
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: if you find yourself in a relationship and maybe you're

831
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: doing something you don't want to do. Yeah, And I know,

832
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: especially in relationships, it gets complicated and it can get

833
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: very gray and fuzzy. But just no, it doesn't matter

834
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: if you're in a relationship, it doesn't matter if you're married,

835
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you have ten kids together. If

836
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: you don't want to do something, then you don't have

837
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: to do anything, point blank periods. Consent always. And I

838
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: think we can talk about who is empowerment because I

839
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: think that historically derogatory terms like slut, whole, whore thought

840
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: are used to take power away from someone because when

841
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: you label someone a slut or a whore, now it's

842
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Speaker 1: like we're talking about there's no rules, there's no boundaries,

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Speaker 1: there's no limits of it's a free for all on

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Speaker 1: that person. No. HO is empowering because it's saying I

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Speaker 1: will do whatever I want with my body and you

846
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: have to play by my rules. It flips it and

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Speaker 1: people have a problem with that. And that's why will

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00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: have a problem exactically, because people don't like when women

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00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: have ownership of our own bodies for our own purposes,

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00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: for our own benefit and leisure. Absolutely, I'm a girl

851
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: to be a home, to be a home. Yeah, it's fun,

852
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: it's a fun life. It's a fun life. Like today, Um,

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00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm like really excited because I'm going to go to

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00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: a pool party and like be in my bathing suit

855
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: and like my ass is going to be out and

856
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to be really cute and I cannot wait

857
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: to just go be cute in the sunshine. I can't

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00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: wait to see those photos. It's going to be adorable.

859
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: And you and that one pieces at that one piece,

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00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: it's that orange from pink plastic. I'll put them. I'll

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00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: put that, I'll tag them, yes so you guys can

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00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: see where it's from. Because it's cute. Yeah, I want

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00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: to I want to be out and about in a

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00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: bathing exactly where a rooftop. That's what summer is for. Yeah. Perfect. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Is there any final thoughts about anything? I'm exhaust to say.

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00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: I would like I would like that sounds amazing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: after this, let's be going to meet it. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: last final announcements. UMH. By the way, we wanted to say, UM,

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Speaker 1: there is a sex worker activist on Twitter that we

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00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: want you all to follow. Support UM. A lot of

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00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: our learning comes from her. Her name is Raquel Savage

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Speaker 1: at rackon Savage r q U E L Underscore Savage UM,

873
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: and she's amazing. Her name on it is like sex therapists.

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00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: I've learned so much from her, especially about sex workers,

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00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: pro hoism, all of that. So she's on Instagram and

876
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: she's on Twitter. Follow her, support her, UM, retweet her,

877
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: learn from her. UM. Yeah. Yeah. We also want to

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00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: remind you all to check out Snowfall and if you

879
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: tweet your reactions, use hashtag Snowfall f x UM it

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00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: airs to life five. So right aroun the corner, UM,

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00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: and then follow us on our social media SoundCloud, Twitter, Facebook,

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00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: I G. It's all local to Underscore Radio. Yes, follow us,

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00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: leave us comments, leave us love, tweet at us when

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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: you're listening to an episode, tweet at us, tell us

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. There's nothing that I love more than

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00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: when you'll tell us what you're doing while listening. I

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00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: love it so much. It's cute. Yes, because some of

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00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: you guys are cleaning, some of you guys are like

889
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: doing your homework and research and statistics stuff and whatever

890
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: it is you do. Multidimensional people, I love it, love it. Yeah.

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00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: And then we also want to know, um, what's in

892
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Speaker 1: your home kids. You know, who are some of your hospirations? Yes,

893
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: who are your greatest hospiration? Let us know? Um. And

894
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: then if you have any idea, if there's something a

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Speaker 1: topic that you want to hear for one of our

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00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: next you know, we're currently planning our next five episodes,

897
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: so let us know. Let us know, because we are

898
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 1: always like open to our ideas, to like topic suggestions.

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Speaker 1: If there's something that we like, we will shout you

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00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: out and we will talk about absolutely. Yes, So heaven

901
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: on Earth, go be pro ho ho is practice. If

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00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: you claim to be a feminist, you should be pro

903
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: ho pro hove not yet, do some internal work and

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00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: figure out why. Yeah, we'll enjoy everybody. Yes, have a

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Speaker 1: good rest of your day. I hope y'all are enjoying summer.

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00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: We're officially in summer. We're officially in summer. We want

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00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: to see all of your summer gear, all your summer

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00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: where your summer looks, so you know, don't be strangers.

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Speaker 1: Hit us up and show us love, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy