1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Ron An aian, a catalytic converter, loves the store oxygen. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a fat guy at a hero shop. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: It just keeps eating and eating and eating and storing 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: and eat eat eating, and it's just storing oxygen. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: Eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it, 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: eat it. 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 3: Eat it. 8 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: The car Doctor. All right, this was your lawnmower, and 9 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: it thought, how would you diagnose it? Well, I'd be 10 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: looking at fuel first, and then I'd be looking at 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: electrical stuff, right, you know, yellinoid, Yeah, you go, fuel 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: spark mechanical. 13 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananium, the Car Doctor. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: the phone and call in. The garage doors. 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your call 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred and 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: now hes running. Oh my gosh, So let me start 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: off here. This came to me from Dodge down in 22 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: the Baltimore, Maryland, Delaware area sent me a news article. 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: It says the drivers are lining up to get free 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: Apple air tags and tiles the track stolen cars from 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Metropolitan Police in DC. So wait a minute. The car 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: theft problem is so bad that they're giving away tracking 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: devices so that you can find out where the car went. Really, 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: that's the best solution we've got. But just be aware 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: of that. Down in Washington, d C. The Metropolitan Police 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: are doing their best. They're they're handing out tracking devices 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: to I'm telling you, it's crazy. The world is nuts. 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Who says cars aren't worth anything? Hello and welcome. I'm 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: ronnin Ady and the Car Doctor. I'm here to take 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: your calls at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred. 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: By the way, we're live this weekend. Next weekend, I'm 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: playing hooky, but I got a good reason. Next weekend 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking Saturday and attending Advanced Scope and Diagnostic class. 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: It's sort of like trigonometry for mechanics. In advanced trigonometry, 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to the MIT course and we're putting together 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: a fresh show. 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: Though. 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: We're going to give you a fresh show. We've got 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: the great Mark Mills lined up. Mark's going to come 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: back and talk to us about if you remember over 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: the summer, he was talking to us about his next 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: paper that came out, his physics paper that came out 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: about the practicality of EV's and why it doesn't apply 48 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: in the map of it. And I should point out 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: that Mark was right. You know, if you recall, he's 50 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: been with us now for about a year and a 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: half and he's been saying all along that they were 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: going to hit a stone wall of why the physics 53 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: of evs would not work. And lo and behold, the 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: man was right because everything he's saying was going to 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: come true has come true. And we've got no reason 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: to believe that it won't continue to go in that direction. 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: So we'll have Mark with us. We're gonna be talking 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: to Jim Donnelly. I believe we've got some conversation with 59 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: Chuck Kincaid of Redline Detection talking about some of the 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: advancements in smoke diagnostics and EV battery diagnostics. Well, so 61 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: we look forward to that as we, you know, try 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: to give you guys fresh shows every week. We don't 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: want to leave you a hanging, but you know we 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: are here this week. If you've got a question, give 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: us a call at eight five, five five six. So 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: ninety nine hundred and you know, together we'll we'll solve it, 67 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it and do what we have 68 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: to do to fix it, because that's what this radio 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: show is all about. We we had a fairly normal 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: week in the shop, nothing of substance. You know, it's funny, right, 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: vacation week you you see things that you I don't know, 72 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: you see things that you don't normally or may not see, 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, because you get it. You get you get 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: a massive influx of cars at the last minute, people 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: that are coming home for the vacation week or for 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: the Christmaer, for the Thanksgiving week, and you know you've 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: got to deal with it. We had one come up 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: from Maryland, actually a twenty nineteen fourd Escape, a thirty 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: one thousand mile cars so it doesn't have a whole 80 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: lot of miles on it yet it's got a fair amount, 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: but nothing crazy, and it was an oil change and 82 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: all look over and you know, this is why you 83 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: need to have a trained eye looking at a vehicle 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, because up until now this vehicle 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: had been you know, quick looped. It was just it 86 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: was going to quick loops and it didn't go back 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: to the dealers. And you know, this young lady came 88 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: home for the holiday and her parents said, hey, take 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: it to you know, take it to the boys over 90 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: there by Ron, and you know they'll look it over 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: and they'll tell you what's going on. And you know 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: they're trying to get her out of just doing the 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: quick loop thing, which I think is important. You know, 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I think quick loops have their place. I think to 95 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: use them on a full time basis. You know, if 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: you're leasing a car and you're going to get rid 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: of it in three years and you don't care the 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: outcome of the results, yeah great, if you plan on 99 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: driving it for a while, Like this is a nineteen, 100 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: it's clearly out of least territory. It's in its fifth 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: year now, or it's approaching its fifth year. You've got 102 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: to get a mechanic under the hood once in a while. 103 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it's to your benefit and safety. And this 104 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: escape was no different. It came in for an oil 105 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: change and it left with four tires because one of 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: the tires had a slagh in it in the tread. 107 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: I think she ran over a piece of glass and 108 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: it slit the tire from the top of the tread 109 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: down to the core of the belt on the outside edge, 110 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: and it just you know, the tires were going to 111 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: get changed. The tires maybe had ten thousand miles left 112 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: in them, but this slash was going to become structural 113 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: at some point. You've always got to worry about somebody 114 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: on the road at sixty five seventy miles an hour, 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: hitting pothole after pothole after pothole, or you know, thumpkathump cathump, 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: bridge expansion joints. I always think about those things and 117 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: the load that tires take. You know, you've got to 118 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: be aware of the contact patch, right. You know, we 119 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: all look at our tires and say, hey, they're in 120 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: great shape, something about double the size of your hand. 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: If you took your hands and you put them on 122 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: the desk top, all right, and spread them out, but 123 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: kept the fingers together, if you know what I mean, 124 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: flatten them, but kept that's the contact patch. That's the 125 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: amount of tire area that's that's riding on the road. 126 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: That's all that's keeping you stable and safe. So you know, 127 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: you want tires that are in tip top shape or 128 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: ready to go. And then if you added a little 129 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: water to that you know we're going into winter. Now. 130 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: If you add a little water, ice or slush, how 131 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: long before that tire what's the word I'm looking for 132 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: hydroplanes and allows the vehicle to lose stability and traction. 133 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: So in the case of this young lady, you know what, 134 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: it was one of those jobs that let you feeling 135 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: good because you, for all I know, we saved her life. 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: That that tire slash becomes structural. And at what point 137 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: does that tire split and you know, doing sixty five 138 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: seventy miles an hour traveling back to traveling back to 139 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Maryland after seeing her parents or family for the Thanksgiving break, 140 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: does that tire fail and cause a problem. So that's 141 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: that's important. You know, you can't you can't expect as 142 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a vehicle age is to not take it into a mechanic. 143 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: We had a potential new customer called the shop this 144 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: week and what I got out of him was a 145 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Ford Explorer with oil you know, smoke coming 146 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: out the tailpipe, but a massive oil league up front. 147 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: And he was looking for an estimate for repair. And 148 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm sorry. I said, you know, 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: we can't get to this for a good two weeks 150 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: right now, We're just we're just that busy. And he 151 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: was kind of shocked. And and I'm telling you right now, 152 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: if you don't have a relationship with a shop you 153 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: know that that can work on your vehicle, you're you're 154 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: you're expecting a lot. It's it's a problem because you're 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: setting yourself up for failure where you've got to have 156 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: somebody that you can take your car to, your problems 157 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: to and resolve them. You know, I don't know anybody 158 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: that's going to take a vehicle like that and just automatically, 159 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, sort of speak drop what they're doing. He 160 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: couldn't understand why it was two weeks to get in 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: the door. I think this is the new world order, 162 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: so to speak, that it's just going to take a 163 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: while for cars that you are not on the schedule 164 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: to be dealt with. You know, it's it's just that different, 165 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: and you know that's not an easy repair. He said. 166 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: He was told by the quick loub that the turbocharger failed. 167 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: The turbocharger blue, Okay, I can tell you right now, 168 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: we haven't seen a lot of explorers go through turbos 169 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: at sixty five thousand miles he said it out on it. 170 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it can't happen. But my first question 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: would be, in order for me to write an estimate 172 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: for repair, I need to know service history. I need 173 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: to know what's been done to this vehicle. I need 174 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: to know this vehicle. Did it have a sixty thousand 175 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: mile service on it? Or has it been you know, 176 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: see it sixty five thousand miles if you're changing the oil, 177 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, every every five or six or eight thousand 178 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: miles it did it have eight oil changes in a 179 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: couple of tire rotations, But we haven't done anything else, 180 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: and that affects how I'm going to write that estimate 181 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: because I'm concerned with once I attempt to repair it, 182 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm now married to that vehicle, and I'm going to 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: practice defensive order repair, which i have to do dar, 184 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, because I don't want it to become an 185 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: ever since ever since you fix the turbo, the engine 186 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: now does this, So you know, be careful, all right, 187 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: you know you're using quick loobs. More and more I 188 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: can see it. But all you're getting is oil changes, 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: and no not knocking quick loobs. They do fair oil changes. 190 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't in terms of they do 191 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: a good quality oil change. It's all they do, most 192 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: of them do. Anyway, there are some goofballs out there, 193 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: let's face it. There's goofball mechanical shops too. But you 194 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: can't expect. You can't substitute maintenance by going to an 195 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: oil change place for six or seven years and expecting 196 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle to survive. That's just that's just impractical. That's 197 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: like drinking soda and eating pizza every day and saying 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: you're going to lose weight, because that's not going to happen, 199 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: does it? 200 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. 201 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: So but anyway, just my thoughts, ay five five five 202 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero morenating the car doctor 203 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: here to take your calls. I'll be back right after this. 204 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: Don't go away, no, God, that's right. 205 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: If you call and we're not live, you can leave 206 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 4: a message and we'll call you back to get you 207 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: on the air with Ron eight five five five six. 208 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: Zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking of Ron here he is. 209 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: You know who we are we going to go talk 210 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: to And it's it's funny. I set this call up 211 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: because I wanted to talk to Trevor on air for 212 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: everyone's benefit. Trevor, are you there, buddy? 213 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 5: Hey, how's it going? 214 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: Ron? 215 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Good sir? So let's talk. Let's talk this way. It's 216 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: just easier. Tell everybody your predicament, what's going on? What 217 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: you uh, what your issues are with this car? 218 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: Well, I'll remember a while back at a PCM issue, 219 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: right explorer. 220 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: Right was setting EGR fault codes correct correct, and it 221 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: was determined that it was a bad PCM. But you 222 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: can't get one. You never found one, did you? 223 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: Right? 224 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: Right? 225 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: And I went to a Ford the I mean I 226 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: was chasing the problem. I mean you recommended that maybe 227 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: I should walk away or I could continue to pursuit 228 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: if I really wanted to fix it and stuff like that. 229 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: So that's what happened. I was hard headed. I did 230 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 4: that because I really liked the car. Took it to 231 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 4: a Ford dealer, and the Ford dealer up here in 232 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: Westchester buying me was very helpful and stuff like that. 233 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 4: Matter of fact, they still had the car. So with 234 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: the after market PCM going back and forth, going back 235 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: and forth, because according to them, and doing all their. 236 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: Technical stuff with Ford, it. 237 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: Was recommended that yes, you got to keep even with 238 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: a Ford PCM keep trying it until one. If you 239 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: get one, keep trying it until one hits and everything fine. 240 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: So let's let's clarify for everybody if we can. First, 241 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: so Trevor's problem and jump in where I'm wrong, Trevor. 242 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: But I remember the story from over the summer that 243 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: it had an EGR fault code. And I think this 244 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: has been going on like a year, right, has been 245 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: going on a long time. And when I first saw it, 246 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: I said, hey, this this car needs a PCM. You 247 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: went out, We couldn't find a PCM. We were coming 248 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: off the tail end of the pandemic. They didn't exist. 249 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Ford was saying, hey, we may release them again. All right, 250 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: We're not sure. And you love the car because you're 251 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: that your car guy, that's the way you are. I 252 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: get that. I respect that. And you started using used PCMs, 253 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: some aftermarket PCMs, and every time you did, once in 254 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: a while it would fix the problem, but then a 255 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: different problem would crop up. But most of the time 256 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: most of the used PCMs or the replacement PCMs had 257 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the same fault code built into it, because that's why 258 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: they got swapped in, right, which which kind of makes 259 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: my argument about can anybody really rebuild a PCM. Do 260 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: they have the ability out in the world today? And 261 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: that's a whole nother conversation. So the last I had 262 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: heard from you, it was no matter what you did, 263 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: you couldn't find one. So now it's up at a 264 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: Ford dealer. They're saying, it's a PCM. You can't get it. Now, 265 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? 266 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: And what was also funny, they said the guy they reckon, 267 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: they took me to supposedly their top mechanic at that 268 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: deal at the dealership who deals with their truck line, 269 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 4: the commercial truck line and stuff like that, he thought 270 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: he diagnosed that it was the wiring harness. So we 271 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: had a hard time finding that part. Then they found 272 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: it at another dealership out of state, put the wiring 273 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: harness in and stuff like that. Still the code, it 274 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: fixed all the codes that it was auditioned at at first, 275 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: but still leaving one to eba code even a wiring harness, 276 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: even with the exchange of that, so they thought that 277 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: was going to fix it. Still o codes. So back 278 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: and forth again with the PCM. Then what happens now, 279 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: and they've been very helpful, not charging me extra whatever. 280 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: Hold in the car and all that stuff, letting us 281 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: sit on there lot or whatever. The guy's been very helpful. 282 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: Then it gives me a call one day. And this 283 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 4: is where I should have listened to you. They give 284 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: me a call one day, said they trying to move 285 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: the car. Transmission busted. 286 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: Hmm, yeah, we knew that was I hate to say. 287 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: They tried to move the car because they were getting 288 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: a big truck coming in, so they just wanted to 289 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: move it. They had a big bang transmission buster. Oil 290 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 4: was leaking everywhere. And I went to see it and 291 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: I saw it. I was like, uh, oh, should have listened. 292 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Well, you know it's it's we all have those moments 293 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: in life. Trevor. So, I guess you're shopping for a 294 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: new vehicle now, correct, And what do you want to buy? 295 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: What do you want to buy? 296 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: I gotta admit, and I've heard you talk about it. 297 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: I like the Grand geat Cherokee, not the new one. 298 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: I like the you know, the model the last time. 299 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: I don't like the new body, but I've always been 300 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: fascinated to Grand Cheat Cherokee, you know. But I'm still 301 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: looking at others. But I'll admit I like I like 302 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: to look at that. 303 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Card like, well, you know, I liking the look is 304 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: half the battle, right right, But I can scare you 305 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: away from that car real quick and easy because if 306 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: you think you had electronic problems with the Fords, wait, 307 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: do you have the experience on a ten year old Jeep? 308 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: All right? About parts you can't get about things that 309 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: aren't available, about you know, strange wire and harness issues. Yeah, well, 310 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: but still it will be someday because you'll keep that car, 311 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: you know. Let's tell everybody, let's be honest. I know 312 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: you twenty years Trevor. You'll keep that car at least 313 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: fifteen if you can, you know. And at that point, 314 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: so what else do you like that's out there? And 315 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: we're talking new used, three years old, five years old? 316 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: What's your budget? What are you trying to hit? 317 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: I will go to five years or lower. Then I 318 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: was wondering based on my style because I'll admit, like 319 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: with the Ford, I hardly drove that car. I was 320 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: mostly like a weekend car, but I admit it was. 321 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: It was It's set most of the time. I don't 322 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: know if that caused it, but it's set most of 323 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: the time. So I was I wasn't even wondering what 324 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: should I do leasing, maybe since because of my lifestyle 325 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: or you know, or if I do this whole situation 326 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: with the US for it worries me about getting a 327 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: used car now, with the whole problem the way the 328 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: industry has changed with parts and stuff, right, you know, 329 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: it worries me. Now it's any car really, don't. 330 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there are any good leases out there 331 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: right now, Trevor. You know, it's funny. I was at 332 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: a holiday party for the gym I go to last week, 333 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: and I walked into the middle of a conversation and 334 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: one of the young ladies was talking about how she 335 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: hates cars because she can't find a good lease. And 336 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: she looked up and she saw me, and she went, oh, 337 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm so sorry. I said, it's okay, I 338 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: hate cars sometimes too. I mean, it's true, it just 339 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: happens like that. But she's telling me stories about she's 340 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: not trying to buy mid level SUVs that are leasing 341 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: for seven eight hundred dollars. 342 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: You know. 343 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: It's there's no cheap leases right now, and that's because 344 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: the price of money is so high. So and you're right, 345 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: leasing is a lifestyle. Well, all right, you know, it's 346 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: it's it's what can you afford and how much are 347 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: you gonna use it? So let me ask you this question. 348 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go into the We're gonna go 349 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: into the break, so you can answer it on the 350 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: way back. If you're gonna if you're gonna use this 351 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: on weekends and it's not gonna be an everyday driver. 352 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: Do you go completely in the other direction? Do you 353 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: get something really old but really cool and you know, 354 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: sort of like Trevor's hot rod, but an suv and 355 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: something that's easier to get parts for because it's from 356 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: the eighties or the nineties. You know, there are some 357 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: there are some suv trucks out there that are easier 358 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: to get parts four than something new. And yeah, you 359 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: noodle that. I'll come back with the answer after this, 360 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: but you know, maybe you want to do that because yeah, 361 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: it's it's it's either that or you're gonna you know, 362 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: cars are just getting difficult the technology. You know, we're 363 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: going towards evs. We're barreling along that road. I'm not 364 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: gonna lie. And it's it's taking away from production of 365 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: parts for internal combustion engine vehicles, for the future for 366 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: you know what's next until we get off the EV train, 367 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: which I think will happen. Different conversation. But tell you what, Trevor, 368 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: you come back. I'm coming back. Ron and Nani the 369 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We'll talk about it after this. Don't go away. 370 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: Ron's in his own the Auto Zone studio, and he'll 371 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: be back right after this. Welcome back to the Auto 372 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Zone studio. 373 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Hey, Welcome back Ronning the card Doctor. 374 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 3: Here. 375 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Trevor in New York. Trevor, you're still there, kiddo. 376 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm here. 377 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: How about if we go all the way back? All right, 378 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: And let me preface this by saying that I'm expecting 379 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: you're going to go out and buy an every day car, 380 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: an older, an older four door Toyota Camray, something to 381 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: get you back and forth to work, something basic and simple, 382 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, five six years old, just cheap transportation, just 383 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: a set of wheels. And then if you want an suv, 384 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: why don't we go back to the late seventies, early eighties, 385 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: or maybe a little older, maybe a little newer than that. 386 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Go look at a Bronco, Go look at a Blazer, 387 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: Go look at you know, something from that generation of Tahoe, 388 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: something from that generation of SUV that you know that's 389 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a cult following. Because if 390 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: you find something with a cult following, where there's still 391 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: demand for it, where there are people, there are clubs 392 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: and forums for it, manufacturers still make parts for those 393 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: things on a more readily available basis. Plus you get 394 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: away from some of the electronics. Listen, if you go, 395 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: if you go, look at Jeep. Let's go back to 396 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: the Jeep conversation again, right. One of the biggest problems 397 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: with G and I don't think they've recovered from it, 398 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: was the intervention of Mercedes. Remember when Mercedes bought Jeep. Yeah, 399 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, just so many issues with what engine, what transmission, 400 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: you know, and the way they approached it. And I 401 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: think it did a number on the company. Can Stilantis 402 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: correct it? I don't know. It's a completely different kind 403 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: of vehicle now, But the electronics are going to come 404 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: back to haunt it, you know, for years to come. 405 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: I think it's it's just what's going to continue to 406 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: be available. Uh, go look at up you know what, 407 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: Go look at an O two here, go do this, 408 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: Go look at like the older Toyota land cruisers. Have 409 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: you ever seen one of those? 410 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 411 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go look, go look at one of those. 412 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: They've got a cult following. It's a Toyota, all right. 413 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: They're big, they're heavy. You can go off road in it, 414 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: you can you can crawl over the top of anything 415 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: you want in one of those. And you know, they 416 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: retain their value, which is key because you're gonna hang 417 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: on to this a while, you know, you know, I 418 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: just don't. 419 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 5: Tahoes are popular too. 420 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, tahoes are popular too. It's you know, what what 421 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: have you driven to this point to date? 422 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: Well, I've always had two cars. 423 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 4: I still have my I have a white Hondo. 424 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: Okay, right, so there's your run around. But I mean, 425 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: what have you gone to drive around? 426 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 5: Vehicle? Right? 427 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: But what have you what have you what have you 428 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: driven to replace the Explorer? Anything? 429 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 4: No? Nothing? Lucky, Lucky I had my second car. Was 430 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 4: able to still get around, but I wasn't able to 431 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 4: use the sub for what I like to do it. 432 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 4: You know, I like going outdoors and fishing and stuff 433 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 4: like that. Right, that was the car loaded up with 434 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 4: and stuff. 435 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: You see. It's it's I know, it's it's like so sad. 436 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: It's like such a concept, like the car is worth everything, 437 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: and then one day the manufacturer says, yeah, we can't 438 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: get parts for it anymore. 439 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: It's junk, right, Yeah. 440 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's it's like dating. You find out the girl 441 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: you were dating all of a sudden she left you, 442 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: and you say why, right, Like what did I do wrong? 443 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: You know? So that's why I say, I think in 444 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: your situation, knowing you as a car guy that I do, 445 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: I think you've got to find something with a little 446 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: bit of a niche to it. You're just not going 447 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: to be happy unless it's got a little bit of zip. 448 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: And I bet a land cruiser if you could find 449 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: one and you can make a little bit of an 450 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: adventure for it. I just went through this with somebody else. 451 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: They found the land Cruiser they wanted in California, and 452 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: they had it inspected and they purchased it out in 453 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: California because it's a rust free vehicle. You know, you 454 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: have to think outside of the Tri state area because 455 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, something here that's thirty years old has been 456 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: subjected to thirty winters, you know, and forty winters and 457 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: rust and crud and corrosion, and you know, make a 458 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: little bit of an adventure for it. You know, Texas 459 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: is a good source for dry clean cars, Southern California, 460 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: all right, you know, start looking around the country at 461 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: different regions, Arizona, New Mexico. Although heat there. Those cars 462 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: always need interiors. That's why they make, you know, that's 463 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: why they make Craigslist and all the other forms. But 464 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: then there are services you can hire to let them 465 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: go out and look at the cars and you know, 466 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: see what feits your needs, see what you know floats 467 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: your boat. But until you start driving things, or you're 468 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna lease and you're going to keep it, you know, 469 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: three years and throw it away, and you know you 470 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: can surely do that. It's just it gets pricey after 471 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: a while and you've got nothing. I don't see you 472 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: as a lease guy, Trevor, knowing you're like I do, so, yeah, 473 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: I just don't think, right, yeah, I don't. I don't 474 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: see you as a lease guy. So I see you 475 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: as a you know, an older SUV and uh, you 476 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: know that kind of a thing. I mean, listen, we'll 477 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: put it out there to the listenership. If anybody's got 478 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: a vehicle in mind, they think that an uh you know, 479 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm an older car guy would want to drive, and 480 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: they've got some suggestions. Send me an email Ron at 481 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: cardoctorshow dot com. What should Trevor buy. We'll make it 482 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: like that, trev and uh, we'll see what kind of 483 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: answers we get. All right, kiddo. 484 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: Sounds good. 485 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 5: I appreciate that. 486 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: Thanks n You're very welcome, Trevor, and thanks for calling in. 487 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear. I'm sorry to hear the Explorer 488 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: had had its demise like that, but I suspected that's 489 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: where it was going all along. And you know, when 490 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: they stopped making parts, we're done. That's the problem. 491 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's the problem. 492 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 4: And the guy in the ford guy was like, man, 493 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: this is a good looking car. He was like, man, 494 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 4: you keep this in tech, but it's sad that it's 495 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: going you know. 496 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: He was like, right, right, but it is what it is. 497 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: It is what it is. You know, we move on. 498 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Life is life is too short. So we've got bigger 499 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: we've got bigger problems than that. But I understand. 500 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: So all right, but all right, I'll be in touch 501 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: because I got to bring in the other one to service. 502 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Trevor Okay, all right, kid, have the 503 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: rest of the weekend. You're very welcome, you know, full disclosure. 504 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: So I know Trevor, I've been working on his cars 505 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: for a long time now, and he wanted to talk 506 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: during the week and I just didn't have time, and 507 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know what, let me get Trevor 508 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: to jump in here, because I wanted you guys to 509 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: hear what somebody else was going through. Also, you know, 510 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: I think it's important that everybody understands that, you know, 511 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: you're all going through the same thing. You're all looking for. 512 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, you're all looking for reliable transportation, You're all 513 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: looking for something that floats your boat at one time 514 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: or another. Everybody listening to this radio show is looking 515 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: for the same thing in the way of a vehicle, 516 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's just a quandary. And I think you 517 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: can all benefit by, you know, hearing what everybody else 518 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: is going through, and it helps improve your perspective on 519 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: what's out there as well. 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You've got to meet their criteria and 536 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: see what they what they want you to do. So 537 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: it's Automotive Scholarships dot Com and come on board. We 538 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: need we need technicians in all phases and all categories 539 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: in this industry for sure for it to go forward. 540 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: So Automotive Scholarships dot Com. I'm Ron an ay in 541 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, I'll be back right after this. By 542 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the way I got it. Welcome back. Ron named the 543 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: car Doctor, you know, just to highlight Trevor's conversation. And 544 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: I feel this frustration and pain is you know, this 545 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: goes back to you know, if you remember over the summer, 546 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: somebody was showing me their brand new Corvette and how 547 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: excited they were. And I guess I'm a party pooper 548 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: because my answer was, yeah, but when you can't get 549 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: computer chips for this car in six or seven years, 550 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: it's a flower pot with wheels and and and and 551 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: that's what this is about. Technology is going to beat 552 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: you in this in this business, in this industry, in 553 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: the world today. You know, when you can't get parts 554 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: for a vehicle, when you can't get you know, and 555 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: the computer chips and the software and the updates, and 556 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just not going to happen. 557 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: It's just not going to be there. But this isn't 558 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: something new. This has been going on for a while. 559 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: I was out at the Mitchell one website mitchell one 560 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: dot com reading the sut track tips and fixes because 561 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: I like there the way they've got their forums set 562 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: up Mitchell the folks who bring us, you know, pro 563 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: demand and repair shop information and software and so forth. 564 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: They've got their Suretrap sure Track tips and fixes, and 565 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: I was reading one of them and it talked about 566 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: the operating strategy of a Subaru and a shop had 567 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: a vehicle where the cooling fans were running continuously and 568 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: the dashboard lights were illuminated, and you would think that 569 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: one has nothing to do with the other. Long story short, 570 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: they ended up finding and fixing a BADABS wheel speed sensor. 571 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: And once they did that and cleared the codes and 572 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: verified everything, the tip from Suretrack from Mitchell one went 573 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: on to point out that once they cleared up the 574 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: ABS problem, cleared the codes and reset systems, the cooling 575 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: fans started to work normally. 576 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: Again. 577 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: Now you wouldn't expect it, but somewhere in the strategy, 578 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: the operating strategy of that vehicle, the engineer decided that 579 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: if we illuminate enough dashboard lights or whatever they're thinking. 580 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. They don't tell us that, right, 581 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: we're going to turn on the cooling fans. And that's technology. 582 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Technology has priority because we don't have the ability to 583 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: revise that. And I think about this a lot, and 584 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons I get out to mitchell 585 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: one dot com and I look at you know, software 586 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: updates and some of the other things they've got there, 587 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: but as well as the sure track tips that they 588 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: still post, and there's a lot of information there at 589 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: mitchell one dot com, you know, and you're going to 590 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: see this continued to revolve to be a problem the technology. 591 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: It's listen, what's gonna happen with newer vehicles? What's gonna happen? 592 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: You know. I hate to say this because it sounds 593 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: like I'm beating up evs, but we're all hot to 594 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: trot on evs. They're giant computers there. There are a 595 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: lot of chips there, and what's going to happen when 596 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: those vehicles turn five, six, seven years old? And you know, 597 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: how are you going to get those fixed? It's the 598 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: same problem as the guy with the older gas engine vet, 599 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: the guy as Trevor with his twenty ten Ford Explorer. 600 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: All right, it's fifteen years old. I get that. Fourteen 601 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: years old. You know, technology is going to catch up, 602 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: so you know, be sure what you I don't fall 603 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: in love with it? And it's at some point, technology 604 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: is going to take it from you and you know, 605 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: make it a very difficult vehicle to keep going. You know, 606 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: sure makes mechanical things look look positive and you know, 607 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: and I think I don't know positives, the word sure 608 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: makes mechanical vehicles look more appealing. There you go. I 609 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: look at this because I think of how expensive cars 610 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: have gotten, and you know, I wonder, you know, where's 611 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: that middle class budget? You know what, what does somebody 612 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: consider a lot of money today to go out and 613 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: buy a car. You know, you're going to spend fifty 614 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: grand to buy a car today, forty to fifty thousand dollars. 615 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm old enough but young enough to remember 616 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: buying a house for ninety five thousand dollars back in 617 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: the early eighties. And you know, cars were fifteen thousand, 618 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars new, you know, not like it is today. 619 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Everything is so out of whack. So the price of transportation, 620 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: remember this, I'll close out the segment here. Automobiles were invented. 621 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: They were designed to get you from A to B 622 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: and be affordable for mass transportation. I think we're getting 623 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: away from that, and I think technology is going to 624 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: take us to a I don't know. I don't know 625 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: if it's a great place, but not where we want 626 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: to be, because the price is just going to knock 627 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: our socks off. Eight five five five six zero nine 628 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I run any and the car doctor. 629 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away. 630 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: It was not convincing. 631 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 4: She was laying in that. 632 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: Den. 633 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: She woke up and took me by the hands. 634 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: She's going to love me and my Chevy Van. 635 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 3: And that's all nine with me. 636 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back, run naming the car doctor. Let's do some email. 637 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: This comes to us from Jim. Hey Ron, thanks for 638 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: the highly useful information every week. I never thought i'd 639 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: have information for you, but here you go. Last week 640 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: you were talking of red wires and a Volkswagen. That's right, 641 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: and how Volkswagen kind of marks those wires by different colors. 642 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: He said. I can shed some light. I took German 643 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: in college red and German is rot, so that explains 644 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: why the red wire was marked RT or RO. Well, yeah, 645 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: but why isn't it you know, why doesn't it match 646 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the legend? I get your point, Jim, and I appreciate 647 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: the information. I guess I'm very literal. You know, if 648 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: the legend at the bottom of the page said the 649 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: red wire is supposed to be marked RO, why was 650 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: it marked RT? I guess they should, But you know, 651 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: I guess I'm looking for too much cheers from a fan, Jim. 652 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: You know what, Jim, I appreciate. I appreciate you taking 653 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: the time as I appreciate all you guys taking the 654 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: time to, you know, help me out with things like that. 655 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: But that's just everybody's got their blind spot, and I 656 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: guess that's mine. I just expect things to be exact, 657 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: and I have to wiggle out of that every once 658 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: in a while. Every once in a while, I got 659 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: to wiggle my hips. Hey Ron, Hello, good morning. I 660 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: often hear you speak about OBD two code readers. This 661 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: comes to us from Bill. What product do you recommend 662 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: that is not top of the line. Well, Bill, that's 663 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: kind of counterproductive. Are you asking for the biggest piece 664 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: of junk out there? I can do that. I want 665 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: ODO VIN reader. I would like to stay under FO 666 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. You have any recommendations. Thanks, and I enjoy 667 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: your show. And how will you explain issues? 668 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 5: Bill? 669 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of scan tools out there four hundred 670 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: dollars or less. I think you've got to go out 671 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: there and try them. But I want you to keep 672 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: this in mind. If anybody's out there thinking about a 673 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: scan tool, you know, these are the things you want 674 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: to look for. First of all, if it's going to 675 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: be OBD two, it's only going to speak basic emission language, 676 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: and that's fine. I fix a lot of cars with 677 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: OBD two. You know, I think you need to look 678 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: at how well can you manipulate the data? If there 679 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: are fifty pigs, fifty pieces of information for that vehicle 680 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: that you can bring up, how easily can you bring 681 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: up the things you want to look at. So, for example, 682 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: if you're working on a fuel trim problem and you 683 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: want to look at short term fuel trim, long term 684 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: fuel trim, calculated load, coolant temp, engine RPM, vehicle speed, 685 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: how easy is it for you to automatically bring those 686 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: things up without bringing up the rest of that information. 687 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: Because keep in mind, when you're using a tool, especially 688 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: a cheaper tool. We'll say like that, you know, how 689 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: fast is the processors. It's basically like trying to take 690 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: an older computer and putting advanced programming on it. Are 691 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: you slowing down the processor because diagnostics. Part of the 692 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: problem with diagnostics is it's only as good as the 693 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: processor of the scan tool that you're using. So if 694 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: you have too many pits up there, too many pieces 695 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: of information, you're going to slow things down. So just 696 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: getting the number isn't necessarily enough. You need to see 697 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: reaction time. So you know, let's go, how easily can 698 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: I bring up six or seven pieces of critical information 699 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: so I don't have to look at fifty and I 700 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: can see things quicker and easier. How easy is it 701 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: for me to graph? I just want to look at 702 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: O two sensor activity. I'm doing an oxygen sensor storage 703 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: capacity test. I want to look at upstream downstream mode twos. 704 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: I want to see the difference. I want to be 705 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: able to measure and do the math, you know, and 706 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: those are things you're only going to find by looking 707 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: at it. There's a lot of tools out there. You've 708 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: got to try a few. You've got to take someone 709 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: out for a row test no pun intended, and see 710 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: what fits you and what makes sense to you. I 711 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: always go back to looking at software for the first time. 712 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: Was it intuitive or did it take a book and 713 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: a couple of three sundays to get it. And that's 714 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: what you're looking for. What's simple to you. I'm ronning 715 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: Andy and the car Doctor until the next time. The 716 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.