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Speaker 1: Cancelation Island by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevdia's a

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Speaker 1: Topic Studios production, recorded in front of a live audience

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Speaker 1: at the Bellhouse, Brooklyn, New York.

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Speaker 2: So, Karen, you look fatter in person. Is that why

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Speaker 2: they kicked you off the view?

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Speaker 3: Carl, I don't know that. I would say I was

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Speaker 3: kicked off. It was a mutual decision.

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Speaker 2: So this Cancelation Island is your idea, it.

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Speaker 3: Is, Carl. We, of course don't call it cancelation Island.

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Speaker 3: We call it UEL Restorative Empathy Needs based Experimental World

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Speaker 3: Amelioration Lab. Okay, it's a pilot project that will attempt

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Speaker 3: to rehabilitate reputationally disadvantaged individuals such as yourself on a beautiful,

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Speaker 3: uninhabited island in the Gulf of Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Uninhabited.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it doesn't even have a name. There's a single

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Speaker 3: compound that belonged to a recently decommissioned CIA black site,

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Speaker 3: but it was upgraded to resort level comfort for us

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Speaker 3: by Michael Cores.

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Speaker 2: He's a friend or he was so. No extradition treaty.

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Speaker 3: No, it's unclaimed by any state. In a fact, we've

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Speaker 3: declared it a temporary micro nation of healing.

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Speaker 2: Hilarious.

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Speaker 3: I know you've seen me on the talk shows calling

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Speaker 3: for a universally accepted pathway for the publicly shamed to

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Speaker 3: be reintroduced into society.

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Speaker 2: Fucking a fuck, Carl, what I'm just are you texting? No?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: No, go ahead, I'm just doing my wordle Okay.

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Speaker 3: Now, your film and TV empire entertains millions, Your support

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Speaker 3: for progressive causes is tireless, and yet you were in

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Speaker 3: effect canceled when a number of women came forward with

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Speaker 3: charges of sexual harassment. They're all lying, All two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty one women are lying, yeah, about how you

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Speaker 3: masturbated in front of them into an urn filled with

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Speaker 3: your mother's ashes.

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Speaker 2: Look, Karen, it's he said, she said, And I said, bitch,

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Speaker 2: excuse me my wordle words shit, Uh, it's not witch

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Speaker 2: as in hunt.

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Speaker 3: No, Carl, why are you applying to.

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Speaker 2: Renewal because I want my fucking calls returned? Hold on, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well suck my fucking day. Yeah you heard me. I

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Speaker 2: got I gotta go. I'll call you tomorrow. Grandma.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Never thought i'd see that happen in real life.

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Speaker 2: She won't remember that. Alzheimer's it's great for family relations.

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Speaker 3: How's the rest of your family taking your cancelation?

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Speaker 2: Huh? My wife left, my father changed his phone number.

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Speaker 2: My kids still talk to me, but they're retarded.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the terminology has changed to intellectually.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, too many syllables.

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Speaker 3: Carl, I wonder are you seeing a therapist? The excuse me?

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Speaker 2: No, you know it's not quack prick prick Carl.

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Speaker 3: I need you to focus.

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Speaker 2: I need you to shut the fuck up and let

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Speaker 2: me solve this.

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Speaker 5: No one liked you, Carl.

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Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if anyone can stand to me in

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Speaker 3: the same room with you. No, you didn't like that,

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Speaker 3: did you?

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Speaker 2: Well? You really hurt my th there, I only got one.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to give you an example of the

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Speaker 3: kind of confrontational therapeutic modality we might be employing at Renewal.

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Speaker 3: We want to give our therapists, our curators as we

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Speaker 3: call them, cure being the operative word. We want to

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Speaker 3: give them complete freedom in their methods, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: to see if that's something you can handle.

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 3: Your why not is a lot to unpack?

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Speaker 2: I really hate that word unless it's uh No, unpack

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Speaker 2: is six fucking letters.

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Speaker 3: Let's cut to the chase, Caral, you could very well

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Speaker 3: be a perfect candidate for renewal.

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Speaker 2: Damn right. I am a celebrity client brings publicity and investors.

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Speaker 3: We call our canceled clients curatees. And your notoriety isn't

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Speaker 3: the point? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it? Isn't it? If I wasn't famous, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be canceled. Joe Blow doesn't get assassinated, he gets murdered.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Yeah, in any case, Carl, what we really need

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Speaker 3: to know today is that you're open to change. What

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Speaker 3: is it you want for most, Carl?

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Speaker 2: I want, yes, grace. Oh my fucking wordal word is grace?

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Speaker 3: And how does that make you feel?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I want to change.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Carl. We are now officially here for you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta take a dump.

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Speaker 3: Hi, thank you for doing this interview on video chat.

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Speaker 3: I know you're a bit of a luddite.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Karen's screens they become a fucking horror movie lately. Huh,

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Speaker 6: the zoom is coming from inside the house.

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Speaker 3: Very good. Now. According to your TikTok profile, you have

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Speaker 3: five point four million followers. You describe yourself as a

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Speaker 3: gen z, a fab a gender.

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Speaker 6: A fab from my profile. It's irrelevant that I was

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Speaker 6: assigned female at birth. It gives too much power to

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Speaker 6: the assigner.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough, you're a gen z agender, multi racial, consciously celibate,

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Speaker 3: neo ascetic, social influencer. Now agender means free from gender

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Speaker 3: correct and neo ascetic is about frugality.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: My most often quoted mantras are do less, hurtless, stop moving,

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Speaker 6: and save the world. And all pain is harm, All

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Speaker 6: harm abuse.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, But isn't some pain not caused by abuse? I mean,

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Speaker 3: people do get burned by the sun and die of

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Speaker 3: natural causes.

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Speaker 5: That hasn't improven, Karen.

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Speaker 6: Scientists posit that if we didn't abuse our bodies with

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Speaker 6: sun exposure and unhealthy living, we could live forever.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 5: Interesting usually means you're wrong.

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Speaker 6: What I'm getting at is that my generation wants to

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Speaker 6: stop abusers of the powerless, and of course the most

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Speaker 6: powerless victim of all is the fucking planet.

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Speaker 5: Well said, your generation really shit the global bed. Karen,

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Speaker 5: You're a.

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Speaker 3: Right Kui, But what would you say to those who

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Speaker 3: say that you that zoomers haven't lived long enough to

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Speaker 3: make balanced judgments? Maybe to understand nuance? One has to

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Speaker 3: have worked through a few things, experienced loss.

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Speaker 5: How do you know what I've lost? Karen?

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Speaker 3: You're right again, Ki, What have you lost?

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Speaker 5: How about my fucking future? For one thing?

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Speaker 6: He needs nuance when our survival is at stake. Why

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Speaker 6: do you think kids are super gluing their faces to Gwernica?

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Speaker 3: Well taken? You should know that I've decided that, no

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Speaker 3: matter how old our canceled curities are, all of our

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Speaker 3: curators need to be gen Z because you are our

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Speaker 3: conscience and our future. In effect, we want to give

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Speaker 3: the kids the keys to the car.

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Speaker 6: Wow, that's a huge and fuel and efficient vehicle to unpack.

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Speaker 5: But I applaud you lately.

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Speaker 6: Maturity seems to be just another word for complacency, if

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Speaker 6: not outright collusion. And if all news is fake, then

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Speaker 6: all stories must be true. So be careful what story

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Speaker 6: you're telling with this rehab, Karen.

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Speaker 3: Very well? Put? May I quote you?

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Speaker 5: You mean appropriate me? Well, I'm joking. I'm joking, Karen.

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Speaker 5: We're not all a cab acab.

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Speaker 3: All cops are bastard.

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Speaker 5: No assigned cop at birth. Well played, I'm well tired

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Speaker 5: of your compliments.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough now, Kai, you're tough, You're articulate, you're informed,

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Speaker 3: you encourage young people to get off social media. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Am very proud of my do lessers who are devolving

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Speaker 6: down to flip phones or none at all.

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Speaker 3: And yet you are a major social media presence with

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Speaker 3: how else.

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Speaker 5: Am I going to advertise doing less? Karen? It's a process,

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Speaker 5: it is.

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Speaker 3: Now. I'm curious what is the origin story of Kai?

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Speaker 6: Well, though most of my ancestors were slave owners, I

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Speaker 6: recently found out that my seventh great grandmother was one

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Speaker 6: quarter black. It is a responsibility, it is an opportunity.

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Speaker 6: And I see myself as kind of a harmhound who

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Speaker 6: sniffs out racism, sexism, queer phobia. And if I find

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Speaker 6: out that you have hurt someone, Karen, I will digitally

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Speaker 6: root you out, dox you, and if necessary, remove you

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Speaker 6: from circulation. My goodness, your goodness hasn't been confirmed yet, Karen,

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Speaker 6: And naturally I hate liars. Truth is important to me

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Speaker 6: because my parents are conspiracy nuts, the fake moon Landing,

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Speaker 6: the nine to eleven inside job, all the way to.

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Speaker 3: Kenon Canon, isn't it, q Andon? Pedophile liberals eating babies

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Speaker 3: and something you no, Karen?

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Speaker 6: Q is over Ka is the new Q and K

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Speaker 6: is mostly concerned with the secret lizard.

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Speaker 3: People, the who.

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Speaker 5: The crypto reptoids among us.

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Speaker 6: You know, Biden, Obama, Bieber preparing the way for their

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Speaker 6: lizard brethren to rise from their subterranean chambers and take

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Speaker 6: over the world.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's pretty huge right now, Karen, I really

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Speaker 6: think I have a lot to offer this project.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a partner and or children? WHOA?

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Speaker 5: What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I thought you would want somebody with fewer attachments,

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Speaker 6: So am.

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Speaker 3: I in Well, it's not just up to me.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Kaya is too prickly, huh to hair trigger? Too young? Karen?

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Speaker 6: What I lack in life experience I make up for uncertainty.

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Speaker 6: I am certain I can help people, whether they like

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Speaker 6: it or not.

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Speaker 3: Kai, You're hired, and I know just the curate that

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Speaker 3: I want you to work with. I believe you when

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Speaker 3: he are going to be a formidable match. Can you

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Speaker 3: hear me? Okay, Claude, I can.

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Speaker 7: The picture is fine too.

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Speaker 3: Where are you now?

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Speaker 5: The island of Martinique, CA.

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Speaker 3: Your resume says your.

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Speaker 7: Haitian I was born in Haiti, but moved to the

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Speaker 7: Gulf Coast of Florida at age eight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I thought I detected a tamp and lilt.

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Speaker 7: Okay. I returned to the Caribbean in my late twenties

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Speaker 7: and have been working on various islands since then.

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Speaker 3: Now, Claude, why do you think you should be head

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Speaker 3: claviger at Renewal?

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Speaker 7: Be what I thought I was interviewing for a head

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Speaker 7: of the maintenance staff.

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Speaker 5: You are.

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Speaker 3: Claviger is a medieval term for key master. It seemed

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Speaker 3: more elegant.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 7: I've been chief engineer and groundskeeper for various resorts throughout it.

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Speaker 3: I understand Hurricane Jeric devastated your most recent place of employment.

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Speaker 3: I want to apologize for our emissions in the global North.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: I speak five languages. I have been a laid pastor,

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Speaker 7: a medic during the Haitian earthquake, and an amateur boxer.

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Speaker 3: That's all very useful. Okay. It says here you have

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Speaker 3: five children? Do you have a partner? I'm sorry, did

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Speaker 3: your image freeze or excuse me? The question was irrelevant? Okay,

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Speaker 3: lay minister. Interesting do you believe in redemption? You're going

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Speaker 3: to come in contact with complex individuals there could very

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Speaker 3: well be sexual predators, racists, knon followers, right.

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Speaker 7: The lizard hunters. I'm fascinated by them.

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Speaker 3: Well do you think you could handle such extreme personalities?

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Speaker 7: As my grandmama used to say, no matter who you are,

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Speaker 7: if you peel off your skin, you'll die.

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Speaker 3: She was a wise woman. You're a boila.

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Speaker 7: We don't speak Spanish and HATI.

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Speaker 3: Oh, of course you don't forgive me. I also see

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Speaker 8: Colleena Kasparian and I need to be held accountable.

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Speaker 3: All right? Can you describe how you were canceled Klina?

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm a I was a theater major at Kansas

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Speaker 3: Great until it wasn't. Am I right? So let me

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Speaker 3: make sure I've got this right. You quote stumbled out

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 8: I realized later he was actually our new janitor, trying

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Speaker 9: I love Angela Davis.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and the memes by any memes necessary, right, Sorry,

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Speaker 3: No, that must have been very hard.

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Speaker 8: I haven't left my parents' house in months. I posted

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Speaker 3: We'll do our vest. You are now officially welcome to

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Speaker 3: renew A Khalia.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goddess, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Kirk. Your resume is astonishing. You're a former rodeo clown,

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Speaker 9: Yes, I am an ASMR tiste.

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Speaker 3: Now what is that again?

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Speaker 9: Well, I may sounds to stimulate a low grade euphoria

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Speaker 9: and our listeners, it's better if I show you can

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Speaker 9: I take a sip of your water?

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Speaker 3: Oh please? Ah?

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Speaker 9: I see, By the way, who is that woman who

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Speaker 3: That was Kalina, a curate who will be joining us

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Speaker 9: Right, so sad what happened to her?

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Speaker 3: Yes? It is?

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Speaker 9: So what's going on with you, Karen? Do you have

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Speaker 3: Well, I I don't you afraid we're all going to

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Speaker 3: get ourselves canceled. Well, Kirk, I see it as a

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Speaker 9: Oh, we're going to do a lot better than a

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Speaker 9: prisoner exchange, Karen, Yeah, yes we are. How are you feeling?

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Speaker 3: I'm better than ever now that I've met you. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize I've been resting my foot on your.

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Speaker 9: That's okay, it's fine, leave it there.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, Chris, it's wonderful to see you. Hey, Karen.

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Speaker 3: Been a while. Yes, I guess the last time we

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Speaker 4: Six years ago to the month?

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Speaker 3: Incredible how the world has changed since then, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't take a dump anymore without being called

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Speaker 4: a fascist or a pinko.

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Speaker 3: Well, it seems you were called both when you were

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Speaker 3: canceled for a sketch on your comedy special.

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Speaker 8: What was it called, Chris Katz?

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Speaker 2: Cancel me with a K.

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Speaker 3: Right? You peg raped? Is that the correct term? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You peg raped a Kanye West impersonator with what you

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Speaker 2: Yes, you had to zoom in to see it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I was trying to make a political point, Karen, Well.

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Speaker 3: You enraged pretty much everyone in the political spectrum.

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Speaker 10: I don't discriminate.

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Speaker 3: Huh. Well, at Renewal, we are going to get experimental

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Speaker 3: with our therapies. Are you up for that? Hell?

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Speaker 2: Yes, break me and remake me.

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Speaker 3: I need to work. I'm sorry, Chris. Do you feel

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Speaker 4: I mean haven't we all In the future, we will

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Speaker 4: a magnifying glass, and we're all ugly.

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Speaker 5: I mean shit.

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Speaker 4: My entire career is based on insulting myself before anyone

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Speaker 2: I studied with Phyllis Diller.

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Speaker 4: She was one of the few who could go toe

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Speaker 4: to toe with the borsch felt bully boys. God grant

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about, don't you?

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Speaker 4: Karen?

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Speaker 3: Right? You know I do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I thought so.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Renewal, Chris. Hi, Karen Kelly. Hello, Hi Karen, Wow.

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Speaker 3: I haven't used Skype in years. Hi Karen here?

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Speaker 5: Oh there you are?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am sorry, Karen I'm not very good at

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Speaker 3: this computer stuff. No problem at all. Now, Kelly, You're

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Speaker 3: you teach Sunday school. You've even organized sanctuary for undocumented

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Speaker 3: videos were shot. I mean the sheer diversity of your target. Well, Karen,

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Speaker 3: I've struggled with diversity my whole life. Do you mean adversity?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Okay, Well, let's get specific if you

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Speaker 3: don't mind. You you barged into a maternity ward right after

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Speaker 3: witch baby. Yeah. Then you dragged a bloody cross into

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Speaker 3: I did? And then you broke into a gay men's

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Speaker 3: bone appetite ass eaters. That one was very pot Well.

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Speaker 3: The videos have made you one of the most well

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Speaker 3: Almost everybody hates me. The only person who defended me

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Speaker 3: you tell me why you want to join Renewal. At first,

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Speaker 3: my family, my friends, my job all dropped me. No

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Speaker 3: I got a little lonely. It's really nice to talk

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Speaker 3: with you, Karen. Well, you won't be lonely at Renewal,

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Speaker 3: but you will be challenged on your way back into society.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for that? I don't know how I

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Speaker 3: and I think it would be interesting to meet other

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you, Karen. Thank you for caring.

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Speaker 3: Let Renewal come to order. We're all sitting here in

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Speaker 3: Renewal's beautiful common room.

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Speaker 11: And yes, Kyoko, Karen, i'd like to propose renaming it

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Speaker 3: I like that, Kyoko, folks. This is Kyoko, who works

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Speaker 3: closely with me. Hi, guys Hi, Now you look out

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Speaker 3: I sense healing spirit. It's all around us. What a

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Speaker 3: great place to think about our lives. Yeah, I hope

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Speaker 3: you all enjoyed the leisurely cruise from New Orleans. Just

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Speaker 3: some of our first world distractions, i e. Phones, computers, drugs, alcohol, sex.

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Speaker 3: Renewal is a nine month program, a spiritual gestation period,

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Speaker 3: if you will, leading to our curates rebirth into society.

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Speaker 2: How do we get pregnant if we can't fuck?

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Speaker 3: That's Caral everybody, He's going to be our resident devil's advocate.

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Speaker 3: We all need one. But first some introductions. I am

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Speaker 3: Karen in Affect, your chief concierge here at Renewal, and

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Speaker 3: you've met Kyoko, my deputy concierge.

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Speaker 11: Think of me as the kidney of Renewal. Everything passes

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Speaker 3: And what comes out the other our end is hump.

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Speaker 11: Karen, I'd like to know if we can all provide

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Kele, our subconcierge, is currently

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Speaker 3: handing out name tags with just that information, isn't he cute?

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Speaker 2: Shut up? Hi? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Hi, Cai? How you doing now? To my left, we've

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Speaker 3: got our eight counselors or curators, led by our chief

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Speaker 3: Yo okay. Over here, we've got the ten members of

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Speaker 3: led by our chief claviger Claude. At least his name

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Speaker 7: It does, actually.

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Speaker 3: Good Lord, Well anyway, Last, but not least, the reason

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Speaker 3: we're all here, our sixteen curatees Curity will get a

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Speaker 3: dedicated curator for their personal sessions. But to kick things off,

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Speaker 3: let's acknowledge the original stewards of this land.

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Speaker 6: Who the CIA, who may have tortured people in this

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Speaker 3: Thank you guy, Kyoko, what has your research uncovered?

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Speaker 11: Well, Karen, we don't know who originally inhabited this nameless

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Speaker 11: ten square mile patch of subtropical beauty, which happens to

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Speaker 3: You're studying poetry at Brent Maher.

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Speaker 11: I am sorry. After the attacks of September eleventh, the

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Speaker 11: to illegally detain and torture.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Now, I like to think we are in effect

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Speaker 3: smudging this island with our presence.

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Speaker 11: Exactly, We're clearing.

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Speaker 3: And transforming its brutal, extra judicial brand of justice into

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Speaker 8: Excuse me, Karen, Yes, Kalina, I'd like to propose a

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Speaker 8: name for the island la Isla Kurativa, the Island of

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Speaker 8: Healing la Isler.

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Speaker 3: It's pronounced la Isla.

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Speaker 8: Oh h, I am so sorry, I diase.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. That's our head chef Carmen. Hi, everybody, Hi,

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Speaker 3: and I love la Isla Kurativa. Okay, now how about

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Speaker 3: we kick our program off with a game?

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Speaker 2: Yay? I love games?

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Speaker 3: Is it like mother may I? It is a little Cali.

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Speaker 3: It's called the Privilege Walk or the Power Shuffle.

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Speaker 8: I love that one. I organized it for my sisters

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Speaker 8: at Sigma Kai.

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Speaker 9: That exercise is a little old fashioned, Karen.

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Speaker 3: Let's give it a shot, shall we. Okay, all of

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Speaker 3: us curators, curates, and clavigers alike, please form a single

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Speaker 3: line facing me. I'm going to read out some personal traits,

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Speaker 3: and if one applies to you, take a step forward

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Speaker 3: or back as directed. Okay, good, right now, we're all

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Speaker 3: in effect equal, just as perhaps we were in the womb.

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Speaker 3: Let's begin now. If you identify as male, take one

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Speaker 3: step forward.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 3: Now. If you identify as female, take a step back.

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Speaker 3: If you see yourself as gay, take a step back.

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Speaker 3: If you are asexual, take two steps back. If your

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Speaker 3: trends take three steps back.

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Speaker 5: And if you're a gender non binary.

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Speaker 3: Well, Kai, you can take a step and a half back.

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Speaker 5: That seems pretty stingy, but fine.

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Speaker 3: If you are black, feel free to take two steps back.

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Speaker 2: I'm right the back of the bus.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, as you can see, the game is rigged. Now.

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Speaker 3: If you are a LATINX, take one step back. Excuse me, now,

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Speaker 3: what is LATINX again?

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Speaker 5: I'm from Venezuela, so.

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Speaker 3: Then, yes, Carmen, you are LATINX.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I believe latine is the new gender nonspecific term

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Speaker 6: in Spanish.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't heard of. Well, we'll let Carmen decide

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Speaker 3: which term she'd like to use, shall we, Ki, Carmen,

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Speaker 3: take your time, Carmen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, after all, it's your own language we're trying to

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Speaker 4: force on you.

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Speaker 9: I'm good with whatever.

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Speaker 3: Perfect. Now, if you're Asian, take a half step back.

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Speaker 5: And what about Native Americans?

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Speaker 2: How far back does this room go?

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Speaker 9: What if you're rich?

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Speaker 3: Well, that's not usually a criterion.

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Speaker 9: I mean, what if I lost my family in a hurricane?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Well, Claude, where are you going? I

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Speaker 3: have a job to do, Karen, Karen, I was ignored

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Speaker 3: by my mom.

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Speaker 4: I was left on a Catholic church doorstep.

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Speaker 3: That's a full step back.

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Speaker 4: Then a wealthy Jewish couple adopted me half a step forward.

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Speaker 3: But then they beat the shit out of me.

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Speaker 10: I had an abortion, I was a cesarean.

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Speaker 2: I'm an asshole, but make it. I tried to kill myself.

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Speaker 2: I tried to kill myself five times. I'm afraid of

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Speaker 2: me forgotten.

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Speaker 3: All right, looks like you're all backed up right against

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Speaker 3: the wall. Now what have we all learned from this

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Speaker 3: that I can walk backwards.

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Speaker 2: That this is bullshit. We finally agree on something.

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Speaker 6: Me too. Well, if people weren't changing the rules, the

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Speaker 6: power imbalances would be clearer.

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Speaker 9: I have to agree with Kai.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck is that? Jesus Christ?

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Speaker 5: Is this part of the therapy? No, it's not, She'll go.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we should ask Cot what is going on?

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Speaker 11: Where's the toilet downhole?

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I don't know what that was.

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Speaker 2: One of your friendly ghosts.

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Speaker 9: Karen, My goodness, what a mess?

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Speaker 3: Kyoko on it?

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Speaker 11: Claud Can we get this vomit mopped up?

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Speaker 7: Okay?

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Speaker 10: Yes, Kale, Karen, maybe the volcano is coming back to life.

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Speaker 10: We are near the edge of the Chi Salou Crater.

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Speaker 10: The what where that big asteroid hit the Earth sixty

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Speaker 10: six million years ago and wiped out the dinosaurs?

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Speaker 3: That didn't feel like an eruption?

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Speaker 5: Kale? Well, how often is this going to happen?

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Speaker 11: I'll google it?

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Speaker 2: You have Wi Fi?

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Speaker 3: Oh it's all right, Kyoko, Coral. We do have satellite comms,

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Speaker 3: but only for emergencies. I want to remind all of

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Speaker 3: you that we're isolated here by design. A supply ship

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Speaker 3: will visit once a month, but just know that strange sound,

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Speaker 3: notwithstanding that you presently reside in the state is placed

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Speaker 3: on earth. That sounded like Chris.

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Speaker 2: Claude on it. What the fuck is going on?

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Speaker 3: I'm scared, Karen. What do we do? Please stay where

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Speaker 3: you are. We need to secure the area. Fuck that remain.

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Speaker 2: Calm, Karen, there's no sign of Chris.

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Speaker 3: Organize a search party.

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Speaker 2: You four follow me.

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Speaker 11: We'll find her, Karen.

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Speaker 2: Of course we will.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goddess, this is crazy.

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Speaker 11: I'm so upset.

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Speaker 9: It's gonna be okay, Kelly.

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Speaker 3: Is it, Karen? We will find her?

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Speaker 2: Is lok Yarativa.

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Speaker 5: It's more like the island of the damn Karen. We're

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Speaker 5: in fucking hell? Have you brought us?

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Speaker 1: Cancelation Island A Topic Studios and iHeart Podcasts production written

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Speaker 1: by John Cameron Mitchell and Michael Kevidias, directed by John

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Speaker 1: Cameron Mitchell, Produced by Christy Gressman, starring Holly Hunter as Karen,

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Speaker 1: Josh Pice as Carl, Aaron Marky as Kai k Todd

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Speaker 1: Freeman as Claude, Murphy, Taylor Smith as Collina, Justice Singleton

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Speaker 1: as Kirk, Mary Testa as Chris, Joe Firestone as Callie,

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Speaker 1: Mia Pack as Kyoko, Joseph Keckler as Cale, Maria Mercedes

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Speaker 1: Galupo as Carmen, Micah Stock as Casper, Dalmis Garcia as Keky,

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Speaker 1: Michael Kevidias as Jonas, and Josh Nate Davila as Peppo,

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Speaker 1: Veronica Guadalupe as Pepa. Audio producer Vincent Cashion. Executive producers

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Speaker 1: Michael Kevdias, John Cameron Mitchell and for iHeart Podcasts Noel

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Speaker 1: Brown and Nikki Ettore, composer Lucas Carey. Original song Wait

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Speaker 1: written by Brett Every and John Cameron Mitchell. Additional music

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Speaker 1: by Vincent Cashion. Executive in charge of production Jenny Badusa.

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Speaker 1: Recording produced by Will Stanton. Live production manager Amanda Harris,

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Speaker 1: recorded live in front of an audience by Will Stanton

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Speaker 1: and Sam Torres. Live sound by Max Kaufman. Script supervisor

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Speaker 1: Rachel Cole, Reader Stephen Winter, Production coordinator Nick Boyd, Assistant

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Speaker 1: to the director, Guthrie McCarty, Vaschon Production assistant Brandon Harris,

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Speaker 1: artwork Ricardo de Saigno for Topic Studios Podcasts, Christy Gressman,

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