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Speaker 2: You're at the volume heavy Sunday, everybody, oh, all of

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Speaker 2: The Oklahoma City Thunder, the team's the league's best team

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Speaker 2: all season long, was in their second must win game

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Speaker 2: And you know, I've had a lot of people ask

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Speaker 2: me what I thought would happen in tonight's game, and

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Speaker 2: I said the same thing every time. I know what

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Speaker 2: whether or not the Thunder can raise their level, and

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Speaker 2: they absolutely did in just about every facet of the game.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was one of Shay's best games of

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Speaker 2: Off the Top got a bunch of guys into rhythm

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Speaker 2: the dead giveaway.

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Speaker 3: As a team. In the last game they had.

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Speaker 2: Just thirteen CIS's nearly doubled that total tonight up to

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Speaker 2: let's talk some basketball. So you know, floor game is

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Speaker 2: Game one. The NBA finals are a really uncomfortable setting

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Speaker 2: what that means to me is when you're the lead

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Speaker 2: In that case, a lot of times we see box

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Speaker 2: have to create a lot of shots. Now, does that

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Speaker 2: directly or indirectly responsible for about sixty percent of that offense.

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Speaker 2: And so then you start to zoom out and you go, wait,

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Speaker 2: That was something that I thought Shae didn't do a

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Speaker 3: In Game one, he.

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Speaker 2: Was facing sometimes two sometimes three helpers on his and

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Speaker 2: Jay Dub missus a clean look. Case On Wallace missus

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Speaker 2: a clean look. Blue Dort misses a clean look. But

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Speaker 2: that investment was made earlier in the game tonight, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, chets looking comfortable. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: everyone is just more. It's contagious. It's contagious how it

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Speaker 2: how you double your assist total compared to what they

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Speaker 2: had in Game one. There were a couple of specific

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Speaker 2: great stuff out of. I thought he made a very

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Speaker 2: little kind of like showdown in terms of just young

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Speaker 2: in a real way, just took advantage of that aggressiveness

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Speaker 2: getting a lot of dribble penetration straight through on those

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing too there is like even he was

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Speaker 2: was taking some iffy shots. Then it gets even more

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Speaker 2: But it's a shot that he practices all the time, right,

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Speaker 2: Right in this game, it felt like even the tougher

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Speaker 2: a great game. He knew the whole time I am

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Speaker 2: my team on offense, and all of those trickle down

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Speaker 2: Aaron Wiggins had his best off the Dribble game. It's contagious, right,

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Speaker 2: Everyone starts to feel more comfortable, everyone starts to feel

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Speaker 2: I've seen Shade play in terms of just feeling out

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Speaker 2: the flow of the game, identifying that his job is

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Speaker 2: not to create you know, twenty five shots for himself

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Speaker 2: and a handful of kickouts, but rather to be responsible

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Speaker 2: the job. That's what floor game means. Floor game means

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Speaker 2: how do you run the offense? Not how many points

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Speaker 2: His combination of just knocking down, catching shoot threes, and

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Speaker 2: still compete on the glass and still stay in front

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00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 2: of the ball and it's still swarm in and out

436
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: of double teams in the post, and they still can

437
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: do everything with those groups. It's just guys missed open

438
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 2: looks at the end of game one, and so now

439
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's like Dagnault made some catastrophic

440
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 2: decision that ruined the series or whatever it is that

441
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,240
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Speaker 2: But moving on to the Indiana front, you know, I

448
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 2: was thinking a lot about this thing with Tyree s Alliburton,

449
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 2: in the fact that he kind of has these games

450
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: where he just disappears for lack of a better word,

451
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: And as is always the case, we become familiar with stars,

452
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: right like over years and years and years, you looks

453
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: like when Nicole Jokich, having covered him very closely over

454
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: the last three to four years, I've become so, you know,

455
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: a fascinated with the different ups and downs, what it

456
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 2: looks like for him when it's when he struggles, what

457
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: it looks like for him when he's playing really well,

458
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: like a big giveaway from me with Nicole Yokich is

459
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: his three point shooting. Like, when he has his three

460
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 2: point shooting going, I know that all of a sudden

461
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: it opens up this whole pick and pop and like

462
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: attacking closeouts part of his game that can be downright deadly, right.

463
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: And then we also know that when Jokic gets tired,

464
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: he can kind of lose control of things on the

465
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: defensive end in terms of just how active he is

466
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: at the level of the ball screen with his hands

467
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: and how much resistance he offers at the rim when

468
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: he's in deeper drop coverages or when he's in help. Similarly,

469
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 2: you know we've been learning about Shay and how like

470
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: Shay in certain types of games, Like to me, the

471
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: bad game for Shae is like what Game one was,

472
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: where he comes out and just shoots every damn shot

473
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 2: and keeps his team out of rhythm, right, Like, that's

474
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: what a bad game looks like for Shay, And a

475
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: bad game for a guy like Tyre's Halliburton is gonna

476
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: look very different than it does compared to some of

477
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: these other guards.

478
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: Right.

479
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: Each time we get a new star that plays in

480
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: these super intense, heavily game planned high stakes, you know,

481
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 2: tons of talent on the floor, types of environments. We

482
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: learn more and you know, one of the things that

483
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: I've learned with Tyre's Halliburton is it seems to me

484
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: that Tyres confronts adversity by against these like really athletic

485
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: teams by passing the ball. Like I was talking about

486
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: with Jackson before the show, what would it have looked

487
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 2: like tonight if Tyre's Halliburton went out and just took

488
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: like twenty five shots. Like, He's not the kind of

489
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: guy that gets elite separation off the dribble from awesome defenders.

490
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: Over and over and over and over.

491
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: Again over the course of a game. That's not really

492
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: what he does. He can, like when he's at his best,

493
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: he will beat switches and hit tough shots. It's not

494
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: like he can't do it, but that's like his game.

495
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: His game is he comes off of action and he

496
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: takes coverage beating passes and coverage beating shots. Sinking off

497
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: the low man, he's gonna skip it, you know, like

498
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: if you stay home in that weak side corner, he's

499
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: gonna throw a lob to the guy or hit a

500
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: bounce pass to the guy. In the pocket, you sink

501
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: down off the nail or into the nail. Help, he's

502
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: gonna take the swing pass. You die on the screen,

503
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: he'll take to pull up three. You apply a little

504
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: bit of back pressure, he's gonna attack and wait till

505
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: somebody reacts to him. If you leave a little bit

506
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: of a gap in there, he'll take the float, he'll

507
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: take the mid range jump.

508
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: Shot right like.

509
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: He is not this high volume score. And it seems

510
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: to me that Tyre's Haliburton looks at a game like

511
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: that and goes, I'm not gonna shoot my team out

512
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: of this mess.

513
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: It's not my game. But what I can do is.

514
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: Keep flying like hell off of these actions and keep

515
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: throwing these pitchbacks and skips and all this kind of stuff,

516
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: and just see if we can get this engine running.

517
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: And then when the edgine gets run in, maybe I

518
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: can find my spots to be aggressive in there. Like

519
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: I saw he got going at the end of the game, right,

520
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: it hits a bunch of shots and all of a sudden,

521
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: the talk was like, well, why wasn't he being more

522
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: aggressive earlier? And I mean they just looked like open

523
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: drop coverage. Looks to me like he got a floater

524
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: and drop coverage because he was open the dunk. Remember

525
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: the dunk that he got. It was a stack pick

526
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: and roll where they backscreened for the role man and

527
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 2: uh literally, okay, Soe did a terrible job defending it

528
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 2: and he got a wide open dunk. He had another

529
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: drop coverage play where he hit like a little elbow jumper.

530
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: Like the toughest one he hit was also a drop

531
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: coverage shot. It was like a side view contest from

532
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: jadub where he hit a three a off the right

533
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: wing when it was after he made a bunch of

534
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 2: shots in a row and he was in a good

535
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: rhythm and hit another wide open three out of the

536
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: right corner. Like he got going as Oklahoma City lightened

537
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: up their defensive intensity and he started getting easy clean

538
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: the offense, Like it's not like he was dribbling off

539
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: of ball screens in the first three quarters and like

540
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 2: looking right at good drop coverage looks and was like, nope,

541
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull at James Harden and disappear from the game,

542
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: Like no, that's not what he was doing. It's just

543
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: it's become clear to me that Tyree's has certain limitations

544
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: like when teams really ratchet up athletically from like start

545
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: to finish in a game. Like, He's not a guy

546
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: that's going to demonstrate athletic superiority, get separation over and

547
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: over again from elite defenders and knockdown shots. He's the

548
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: Steve Nash of our era. He's gonna keep dribbling in

549
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: and out of the paint and trying to make something happen.

550
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Like that, That's that's the way he plays. And so

551
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: I think, like that's not to say that that's not

552
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: still one of his bad games.

553
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 3: Of course it is.

554
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: He wasn't able to get the offensive engine running the

555
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: way that it needed to run. But like, all in all,

556
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: like I tend to look at that's what a bad

557
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 2: game looks like for Tyre's Halliburton relative to his peers.

558
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: It's a few more turnovers, some misses on some shots

559
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: capable of making, and like, yeah, like he's not gonna

560
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: assert him he doesn't like. His weakness is he can't

561
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: assert himself as a dominant scorer the way that a

562
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: Shae Gills Alexander came. But the flip side is Tyres

563
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: played a much better floor game in game one, and

564
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: his team won Game one of the finals, while Shay

565
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: shot his team out of the game, like quite literally.

566
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: So again like this is just what that give and

567
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: take looks like.

568
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: With Halliburton.

569
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: He is a guy that when he runs into adversity,

570
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: it gets a super athletic defense. His method for solving

571
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: that problem is to pass the basketball and hope his

572
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: teammates can get into a rhythm. He is not Michael Jordan.

573
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: He is not a freaky athletic six' sixth dude who's

574
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 2: going to shoot step back jump shots over and over

575
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: again and turn around fadeaways and beaten elite athletes off

576
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: the dribble over and over. Again this is Why tyres

577
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: is probably never going to be a top five player

578
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: in the league and why he's more like a somewhere

579
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: in the six to ten range or six to fifteen,

580
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 2: range because this is a. Limitation this is a realistic

581
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: limitation to what he has in his tool bag as an, athlete.

582
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: If that makes.

583
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: Sense, OVERALL i thought the story of this game From,

584
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: indiana it's just their. Composure AND i don't mean like

585
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: them playing. Hard they obviously play hard, constantly but there

586
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: have been multiple stretches in this series third quarter tonight

587
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: first half Of game one where it just felt like

588
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: they would force an early post entry before swinging the

589
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: ball around so you get a better, angle or they

590
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: would Like Ben matherns on the left wing And Pascal

591
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: siakam Has Cason wallace posted up and instead of making

592
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: a post, entry he tries to drive into the teeth

593
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: of the defense and actually makes a decent, kickout but

594
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: like instead of taking what was, THERE i thought in,

595
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: general The pacers just weren't as intentional hosting hunting post

596
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: up mismatches tonight as they were In game, One and

597
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: like it just there is a reality to this thunder

598
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: defense being a team that doesn't break down on the

599
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: first action and a lot of times not on the second.

600
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: Action this is a defense you have to break down.

601
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: Incrementally it's gotta Be tyree's running an action at the

602
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: top of the key that generates just the slightest bit

603
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: of a closeout for like you, Know nemhard or somebody

604
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: else off the left wing with someone sprinting at. Them

605
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: then he's got to rack away from the ball from

606
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: the close, out and he's gotta get an even bigger

607
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: help rotation from a different. Player and then he's gonna

608
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: swing and that guy's gonna get closed out on he's

609
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: got to, drive and it's like there's gonna be you,

610
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: know four or five sixty seven pass possessions just for

611
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: The pacers to get decent looks against this thunder off

612
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: at thunder. Defense but to be, CLEAR i have pretty

613
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: consistently seen them in the series when they need to

614
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: generate quality, shots when they can move the ball, around

615
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: when they're, deliberate when they don't turn it, over they

616
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: can get good. Looks and so again for This indiana,

617
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: team it's about not losing their composure Against Oklahoma city's ball.

618
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: Pressure it's The Oklahoma city has done a good job

619
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: of getting The pacers to not look like the pay

620
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: for some of these stretches just with their poor decision

621
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: making and the sloppy. Turnovers and it's a credit to their,

622
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: defense but it's a reality For indiana in terms of

623
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: hanging onto the rope in this. Series they've got to

624
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: hang on for dear. Life and the way they can

625
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: hang on for dear life is by that incremental breaking

626
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: down of the. Defense get the ball at the floor,

627
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: quickly you, know early in the shot. Clock if they

628
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: get a clean look at, three, sure take, it but

629
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: like keep it moving side to. Side eventually something somebody

630
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: will sink into far to the. Paint somebody will make a.

631
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: Mistake Oklahoma city makes fewer mistakes than their peers around

632
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: the league by pretty wide margin on the defensive end

633
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: of the, floor but they still make. Mistakes and so

634
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: to put it, simply if you run more action in each,

635
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 2: possession you're gonna have more opportunities.

636
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: For them to make.

637
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: Mistakes and they inevitably. Will and in this, series through two,

638
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: games when The pacers get the ball into the half

639
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: court and they get it move inside to side and

640
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: they don't turn it, over they generally have been able

641
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: to generate an okay. Shot It's Justklahoma city has shaken

642
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: them off that foundation a lot with their. Defense, again

643
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: that is What Oklahoma city.

644
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: Does this is just.

645
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: What the tug of war looks. Like all, right let's

646
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: Bring jackson up, here and let's take some. Questions let's

647
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: do it.

648
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 4: First, one, uh there's a few About. Halliburton the first

649
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: is how can The pacers kind of Unlock Tyree's halliburton

650
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: a little? Bit he's obviously gotten stuck in the mud

651
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: a little. Bit is it is it involved him as a.

652
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: Screener what can they do to get him more involved

653
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: than he has been so?

654
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Far so, again LIKE i think there's a reality to

655
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: the fact that When Oklahoma city really tightens the, screws

656
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: he's not going to be super impactful as a scorer

657
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: in this type of.

658
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: Series.

659
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Uh to your, point, though they to the questions, point

660
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: like these, actions these using him as a, screener these

661
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: are ways to hopefully find more advantages for him and in,

662
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: general LIKE i thought he did a good job of

663
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: attacking closeouts tonight when he would get catches on the

664
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 2: perimeter when he would like find himself. Open but, like,

665
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: ULTIMATELY i don't think this is going to be a

666
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: series Where Tyres halliburton is going to be a super

667
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: high volume. SCORE i, mean, guys go back To game.

668
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: One it wasn't like he was having some crazy offensive.

669
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: Game he had some shots, Late but like, it like,

670
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: ultimately in this, series he's the advantage. Creator he's the

671
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: guy that is going to find that first little crack

672
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: In Oklahoma city's defense and then the ball is going

673
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: to continue to be worked around and it's going to

674
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: be a team effort for them to break this, Down

675
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: LIKE i if people are Expecting tyrese to to just

676
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: flex his scoring muscles in this, SERIES i just don't

677
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: think it's something he's going to be able to.

678
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: DO i agree with, That but my sort of follow

679
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: up is to your point about the tougher shot he

680
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: made in the fourth quarter was when he was in

681
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a. Rhythm what's the balance

682
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: there he should strike, between you, know getting slightly maybe

683
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: not putting up ten shots in a quarter in the first,

684
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: quarter but maybe attempting a few that are just slightly

685
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: more to his way as a post to the flow

686
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: of the, offense to get himself in a rhythm a

687
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: little bit. Earlier not that he needs to be thirty

688
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: points a, game can get in a little bit of

689
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: a rhythm as a score earlier in the.

690
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: Game this is a.

691
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: Really good, take AND i TOTALLY i think YOU'RE i

692
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: think you're making a fantastic, point which is that you

693
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: know it's not all or nothing with either of these, Guys,

694
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: like not every game From shay that's bad needs to

695
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: look Like game. One not every game that That shay

696
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: has that's good needs to look exactly like, tonight there's

697
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: an in between, ground, right and like the to your,

698
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: point like we've talked about this concept a lot on

699
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: the show over the course of the last couple of.

700
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: Months but like the scoring, archetype their demons in their

701
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: head try to get them to shoot when they probably should.

702
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: Pass and for the playmaking, archetype the demons in their

703
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: head are like pass the ball when they probably should.

704
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: Shoot and so, yeah like this was a bad game From.

705
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: TYRESE i want to be, Clear i'm just, saying Like

706
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: i'm starting TO i understand more of What tyrese's bad

707
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: games look like in the sense that he knows like

708
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: you think he's looking at Lou, dort, like let me

709
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: just go to, like, no that's not what he's thinking

710
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 2: when he's looking at that. Matchup he's if he'd had

711
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: to play one on one against Lou, dort there's a

712
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: chance that he'd really struggle to get shots. Up like

713
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: LIKE i, mean like literally if they played Like Lance

714
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: stevenson and who's it Of Mike beasley the other, Day

715
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 2: so like you if you play that kind of, game

716
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: that's not that's not his. Game but like to your,

717
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: point maybe taking a couple more of those like one

718
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: or two more of those like questionable looks in the

719
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: first few quarters could go a long way towards giving

720
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: him a little bit more rhythm when he needs to score.

721
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: Later next, question when WILL J dubb show? Up he

722
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: felt like he had a better game, today but he's

723
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: still shooting under thirty five percent this. Series what can

724
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: he do to help himself on the offensive?

725
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: End he's just not hitting his jump. SHOTS i thought

726
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: he got some pretty damn good looks from three in

727
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: this game that he just, missed which is how it.

728
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: Goes but, overall LIKE i, mean he had nineteen points

729
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: and fourteen. Shots almost everything from him was downhill towards the.

730
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: Rim he was that was how he kept continuing to

731
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: get to the foul. Line and, like, HONESTLY i feel LIKE.

732
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: J dubb has been pretty good since the first half

733
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: Of game. One LIKE i thought he was pretty good

734
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: with his attacks in the second half Of game. One

735
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: he just hasn't been able to find his three point shot.

736
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: Yet but, like a lot of this is comfort and

737
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: rhythm and like like it really doesn't matter as long

738
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: as he hits him when he needs. To so like

739
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: here you are one to one there's gonna probably be a,

740
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: chance maybe It's game, three maybe It's game four where

741
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna need to hit some catch and shoot, threes

742
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: and if he hits those, ones like, yeah there are

743
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: gonna be people who hunt the box score and be, like,

744
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: oh he didn't have a very good statistical, series but

745
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: ultimately to win this, series he's just gonna have to

746
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: hit some more jump. Shots AND i think he's certainly

747
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: capable of. It BUT i thought he played pretty well

748
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: tonight to be.

749
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: Honest, YEAH i agree with. YOU i agree with.

750
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: You one More haliburton. Question then we got a few

751
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: more on THE okc, side These halliburton struggles and him

752
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: as his. Score is there something he can add to

753
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: his game to avoid these kind of disappearing acts in the,

754
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: future or do you think because of sort of just

755
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: his style of play that this limitations are who he

756
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: is and sort of what he needs to just sort

757
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: of live with, throughout you, know his career at this.

758
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: Point so step one is like acknowledging the reality of

759
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: like who he is as an, athlete which is like

760
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: he's a very Good like he is a very good,

761
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: athlete but he is not an elite athlete like he is.

762
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: Not he doesn't have like that first step quickness that

763
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: Shake gil Just alexander has that gives him the, Ability like,

764
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: What shay's one of the top two or three scores

765
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: in the. LEAGUE i think we can all agree on, that,

766
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: Right so what Makes shay's such an elite. Scorer it's,

767
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: one he's got this unbelievable first, step but, two he

768
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: also like has the ability to out of any footwork

769
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: from any spot on the, floor rise up into a jump.

770
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: Shot he can turn over his right, shoulder he can

771
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: turn over his left, shoulder he can step back going,

772
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: right he can step back going, Left he can do

773
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: all of the different jump shooting angles and finishes and

774
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: things along those. Lines and so as a result of,

775
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: that like he is not short of ways to get

776
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: a shot off against an elite. Defender, Now Tyre's halliburton

777
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: doesn't elevate super high on his jump, shot doesn't really

778
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: have the ability to shoot fadeaways over both, shoulders like

779
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: turning and spinning out of the post or anything like.

780
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: That but what he does have is he's a very

781
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: good three point. Shooter and SO i imagine it being more

782
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: of like if he can get to the point where

783
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: like he does a lot of stuff out of a

784
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: high hesitation on his right, Hand like he kind of

785
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: is constantly like feathering together high. Hesitations everything chains together from.

786
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: THERE a lot of times you'll like chain three or

787
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: four of them together while he's waiting for a play to, develop,

788
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 2: right and he's just kind of eyes on the, rim

789
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: handing that high hesitation like maybe a dame step, back

790
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: like just really a really hard in and out dribble

791
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: to get just that little tiny bit of separation and

792
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: rise and fire and then just a little bit of

793
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: work quickening the release and then again like it's all, levels,

794
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: Right like everyone wants to know the difference Between steph

795
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: and all the other great guards of his. Era you

796
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: want to know what it. Is a chasm of the

797
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: ability to make three point. Shots like, ultimately it's about

798
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: becoming a guy that doesn't hit thirty seven thirty eight

799
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: percent of, them but becoming a guy that hits forty

800
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: two forty three percent of them at high. Volume and

801
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: SO i THINK i think the best pathway For tyres

802
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: to have him reliable is the wrong, word because there'll

803
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: still be some some variance involving shooting but, like to,

804
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: me the pathway For tyrese to become a guy who

805
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: can like average twenty five points a game in a

806
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: playoff run is to just become one of the best

807
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: shooters in the. LEAGUE i think that's the move for.

808
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: Him and then, again like just little quick moves that

809
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: capitalize on his speed and his passing ability to like

810
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: sneak three point shots off against the.

811
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: CONTEST a couple.

812
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: More, questions then we'll go over to. Playback next, question

813
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: what was the end season tournament lost good FOR okc in,

814
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: retrospect feels like they've finally learned from that loss and

815
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: last year's playoff, loss And i've sort of taken some

816
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 4: of those lessons to be able to get over the

817
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: hump a little.

818
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: Bit.

819
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 2: ABSOLUTELY i, Mean i'm a huge fan of the end season,

820
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: tournament but, like like you, know you don't think that

821
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: was ANOTHER i talk about this all the, time like scar.

822
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: Tissue you get scar tissue from losing any real, competitor

823
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: any competitor worth his salt is still thinking about losses

824
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: that he's had in his past or that she's had

825
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: in her.

826
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: Past like we've all been.

827
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: There you lose a, game it should eat at you

828
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: and what typically happens is you think about a moment Like,

829
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: Jackson i'm sure you've lost a game in like a

830
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: men's league where like you think about a single rebound you,

831
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: missed or a single turnover you had in a big,

832
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: spot or like a play where, you you, know maybe

833
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: settled for a shot when there was a driving lane

834
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: or something like. That, like like those things haunt. You

835
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: they haunt, you and you need high leverage basketball to

836
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: build that part of your game. Out that attention to,

837
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: detail that fear of losing that that like just unwillingness

838
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: to let it happen, again, Right and SO i absolutely

839
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: think The Ncason tournament lost help this.

840
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: Team last question before, playback what do you think the

841
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 4: ceiling is For? Mathrin shay got the better of him at,

842
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: points but he Would it's great seeing him fight over

843
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 4: screens and stay attached and he's great at getting.

844
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: Downhill how old Is Ben matherin?

845
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: NOW png on one second twenty two so and he's

846
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: about to turn twenty three On june. NINETEEN i THINK

847
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: i Think ben's been super impressive for a young, Guard

848
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: like think about how many young guards now, again like

849
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: this is this is how it's all relative because like

850
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: remember like ants twenty three and just let his team

851
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: to back to Back Western conference. Finals so like this

852
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: is part of WHY i tell everyone to back the

853
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: hell off when it comes To Anthony. Edwards but With,

854
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 2: ben there is like you saw, It like he admitted

855
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: a couple of, fouls but like he can slide those

856
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: feet and stay in front of a pretty quick athlete In,

857
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: Shaye like he's got a ton of potential as a defensive.

858
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: Player his downhill athleticism is a legitimate. Problem he's able

859
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: to draw fouls against The Oklahoma city. Team he's got

860
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: to continue to polish up the jump shot and his decision,

861
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: making and there's certainly a long way to. Go but

862
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: Like ben strikes me as a guy who by age twenty,

863
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: six age twenty, seven is going to be a guy

864
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: who could be in that like twenty five to thirty

865
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: five range in this. League LIKE i absolutely think he can,

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