WEBVTT - REPLAY - HitMaka 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:10.320 R and b's money. We are thank you take VALICHII. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:20.360 We are the authority on R and D. What's going on. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:25.119 I am tank, this is the Valentine and this is 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.479 the Army Money podcast, the authority on all things R 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.600 and B. And we got in the building. Me and 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.839 his brother go back, like way back, like we used 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:34.440 to rent. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.600 Lamborghinis from the same guy. Now we can afford to 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.879 own that. You're the sailor saying he can get more 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.520 Lamborghinis than me. Now he can get lambas. We got 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:46.320 this brother in the house. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:46.559 Man. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.519 I don't know how he did it. 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.440 I don't know how he's doing it, but he's continuing 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.639 to change the game and elevate himself and. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:53.560 All the people around him. We're gonna find out today. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.680 We're gonna find out today. Hint maker in the builder. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:04.920 Yes, first of all, thank you, Bro, Thank you for 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.720 Thank you, Bro, Thank you for my brother been here. Man, 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.840 I've I've watched you for a very long time. I 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:18.920 think you were sitting in an expedition. Was an expedition 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.560 and in the uh in the parking lot at the 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:29.319 Underdogs Old joint on on in North Hollywood, and you 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.240 had to window down. You were smoking a little bit. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.000 You had your leg up and you said, listen, man, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.640 you need to get some records from me. And look 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.320 at you, and I was looking at you, and I 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.280 need to get some records with you. You need to 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.600 get some records from me. I got hit, you got 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.280 hit R and B hits, I got everything. Okay, I'm 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.520 gonna call you. I'm gonna call you. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:58.520 Already. Listen, listen cut to you called it. You had him, 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.080 you got him that some crazy times the Underdogs, Bro. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.520 Like I know y'all experience with the Underdogs is way 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.520 different than mine. But just like catching that wave and 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.720 being around Damon and Harvey and all them other time, Man, 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.919 you gotta think they had like the Avengers of songwriters 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:20.320 and producers all in are yourself, Jay j Q, what's Dawkins? 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.840 It was just like, Bro, it was amazing. I learned 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.679 a lot really at that. And that's where I met 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:29.880 Aaron Ray that signed an interscope or whatever Underdogs and 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.200 we built our relationship. But man, damn, shout out to Damon, Bro. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:34.720 I just seen this last TV interview. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:39.360 You are wild. Listen and if hit make it casts 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:44.600 you a wild boy? Wold I to live with him. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.440 So you know when I was damnar homeless, he let 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.320 me stay in one of his rooms. He was solid, 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:51.080 he was cool. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.600 Listen, listen, we was up on top of the hill 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.200 and the pool it would simmer and the steam will 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:58.960 come on for we just called the hot dog water. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.960 So you know that don't sound right, but well, Paul, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.960 we'll pause it. You know what's going on there. So 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.359 listen with with with with our with our pod. You 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.720 know what I'm saying, Like we are, we celebrate the 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:18.040 music one hundred percent, and you go back a long way, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.720 even before Hit Making. You know what I'm saying. You 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:26.240 had hits before Hit Maker. Yeah, young And so I 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:31.600 think I think first people, people. I don't want people 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.920 to get lost in in what they see now and 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.200 not understand the process and what it took for you 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:40.760 to fucking get here, bro. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.520 And and if we can start at the. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.600 Beginning and kind of and kind of get to those 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.960 pivotal points that were game changing for you and then 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.200 make our way to one of the craziest shames I've 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.560 ever seen. If we can make our way there, you 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.240 know what I'm saying, The people would love that. Okay, Alright, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.120 So the beginning. I'm from South side of Chicago, you 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.440 know what I'm saying. So I started there and like 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.080 a lot of people don't know, my parents are a millionaires, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.119 so like I came from. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.400 Like yeah, like I ain't never had a. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.520 Sandwich, a hot dog, a hamburger, lunchable. I ain't never 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:18.159 had burger king I briefly like a McDonald's nugget maybe 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:18.600 or something like that. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:19.960 I ain't never had none of that shit in my life. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.920 And I'm in my mid thirties right now, so like 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.240 that ain't never happened to me. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:23.560 Ever. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.480 I ain't have peanut butter and jelly. I ain't never 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:26.880 had a motherfucking. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.440 Uh you had chefs? Yeah, you know, you know I 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.120 met his pops. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.080 No, I met his pop to the BMI award me 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.680 this fool and Damon Thomas at the same table and 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.040 his daddy, Yeah, his daddy. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.720 Cool and the motherfucker. And he keep his camera out. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.640 He said, he said wait because he saw somebody else 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.640 talk to me, said wait, did they say you was 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.480 Jay Valentine. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.800 I'm like, yeah, like, ain't put our records in the honey. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.800 He like, I know who you are. Let's take this picture. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.159 I'm gonna get a p everybody in here tonight. He 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.440 in a mix, he not playing nah. So that that happened. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.080 And then I was, you know, back in the day, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:12.200 I was well, my next door neighbor was Shawna from 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.800 Disturbing the Piece or whatever where getting some head. Her 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.680 dad is buddy guy. So they were my next door neighbor. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.240 They were the first people I seen indoor pool outdoor 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.960 pool flexed up or whatever. So she was in rap 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:24.960 groups and she was rapping and like that kind of 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.240 like rubbed off on me, my brothers and like all 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.680 the people around her or whatever. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.600 So I just seen it from that view. 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.440 And then as I got older, I was a bad kid, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.479 bro like not really bad, like. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:37.440 Like yeah, I was bad. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.159 So, like my parents got a divorce and my dad 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:41.880 went back to the city and lived in one of 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.719 his apartment building pretty much like he went back to 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.159 the hood and we was living in his apartment building 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.120 on the East side of Chicago whatever, because my dad 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.920 is like a real like real estate mogul in Chicago. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.640 But he when they had a divorce, we left a 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.240 big house and he's like, fucking, I'm gonna just go 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.400 live in one of my buildings and I'm gonna raise 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.560 my son. I didn't live with my mom. I wouldn't 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.520 live with my dad. I got like the opposite story. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.599 So from there, I man, I started drinking and smoking, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.360 probably like sixth grade something like that. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:10.400 Like so I. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.320 Remember being in love or raps and shit, and like 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.240 my daily routine, like my dad would give mem like 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.120 twelve dollars for lunch money. I would go and buy 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.200 like a nickel bag of weed. I would buy half 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:18.960 pint of Seguins. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:19.160 Gain. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:20.880 I would get on the bus and write raps and 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.000 go to school. And this is like eighth grade, freshman 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:24.800 year in high school. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.560 You know what I'm saying. Like I was wild and 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:28.880 I used to have a crackhead. Go buy me a 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:36.080 half pint of Seguins. Hey, man, you got you. And 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:41.599 this guy no, no, no, I did my research on him. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.680 He's different. Yeah, he was different, like for real, for real. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.719 From there, I ended up meeting up some street niggas, 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.200 you know the whole story, And then pretty much I 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.640 created a demo with this guy named Bugs who still 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.800 works with Kanye to this day. They like right hand 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.600 or whatever. So my demo had Jesus walk beat on it. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.440 My demo had all wait. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.200 Wait wait wait wait wait that actual beat. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.159 The beat to Jesus Walks was a song by me 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.359 before it was Kanye's song, and it was on my 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.880 demo which led to me to get signed as a kid. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:18.400 So from there, Boom the Dope Boy, the street dudes 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.320 or whatever, they take me, and then like we do 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.120 the whole little tour, like I remember Tommy Boy wanted 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.200 to sign me. I met a whole bunch of different 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.080 people out here. There used to be a club called 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.880 Luna Park, and I think like the Lakers that just 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.800 won a championship my mind. You back when I was 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.680 a little dude, I was like four foot four, like 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.600 I was like little little burg or whatever for real, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.120 for real, and I rapped for like jay Z, Dang Dash, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:41.880 Doctor Dre. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:42.640 All these different people. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.679 So everybody was offering me deals, and just so happened, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.800 Eve had a stylist named Joe Exclusive that. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.280 I shout out to. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.040 Joe Exclusive always somewhere, always in the mix for sure. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.120 That was Eve's stylist, and I've been around Eve a lot. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.360 So he introduced me to DMX. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.360 At what these bitches want from a nigga video shoot 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.680 at the Paramount Lout or whatever. And then from there 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.440 I gave DMX my demo and he was. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.400 Like, yo, Shorty, Uh smoke, but I'm gonna get to 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.280 you later or whatever. So he went smoking. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:14.960 I went and I rapped for him and like, I'm 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.080 from Chicago. So my first rap was like I say, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:18.880 go off with a tent, smoke, film to the hill 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.600 and like some twister shit, and he was like, Yo, Shorty, 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.880 I understand what the fuck you said, Give me another one. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.560 So I did another one, the whole fucking trailer of reps. 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.400 And the next day I come back, Aliyah's daddy in 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:31.920 the trailer playing my music. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.600 They're going crazy or whatever. Lead to me. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:39.600 Signing the DMX, And that's what fourteen like a real kid. 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:39.959 But I was. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.160 I was like me, now I'm smoking cigarette, smoking weed, drinking, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:45.360 Like who you you with. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.560 Your you with your guys from Chicago? You not with Pops? 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:47.920 You not? 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.120 No, I wasn't with Pops. So like I'm moving like 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.280 a grown man. Yeah, Like I was really rebellious. So 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.560 you gotta think back in those days, the rapping was 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.000 about staying true to like I mean, I had so 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.200 many bricks in my raps or whatever, like I wanted 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.760 to be industry Like I was literally selling crack, like 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.800 like my parents were millionaires and I was spitting out 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.920 rocks and selling them to my like crackheads on the corner, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.600 Like I really wanted to live that life like and 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.080 be about that with my raps. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.640 So from there, my pops. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.360 In them scene, I was so rebellious that they just 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.600 didn't stand in my way. I was leaving regardless whether 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.200 y'all let me go or whatever. I'm going regardless. So 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.800 they took me all these different places and then that 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.280 was my first time meeting ray Ja, and then DMX 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.160 was just like Shorty, I'm gonna sign you. It's not 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.160 gonna be quick, but I'm gonna sign you. And I 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.040 was like I bet and the street dudes that brought 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.240 me there, they got insecure because I was working with 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.560 everybody wanted to sign me, and I wasn't the lead 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.880 act like the guy's like son was the lead act. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.680 And I won't say, now he's selling music business or whatever, 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.600 God bless them or whatever. So that shit happened, and 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.080 like this was like my first like crazy experience in 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.280 the music business, Like I never forget it. We was 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.520 in New York and DMX was pulling up the Quad 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.839 studio and they're like, Yo, we're gonna DMX. Want to 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.200 see I was there with Eve with the street guys. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.560 So the street guys like they pulled me in the 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.280 bathroom like, nigga, you act like you want to sign 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.560 a DMX thing. We're gonna kill your mama, We're gonna 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.600 kill your daddy. Nigga, we don't give a fuck. But 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.040 I'm like like, damn, Like I'm a kid fourteen, So 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.200 I see X. I was holding back a little bit, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.080 X telling me like, we got the deal. We're gonna 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.440 give you fifty thousand dollars advance. Were gonna do this, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.360 but I couldn't really show no love. So we went 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:26.000 back to Chicago, were in the studio and the guy 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.480 that owned the studio came in and he wasn't a rapper. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.160 He just went and gotten a booth while he was 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.520 in there working, Like, yeah, shorty, I busting that in 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.720 your mama face, and I do this that and the third. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.319 I'm like, damn, this is you. Yeah. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:38.880 So I went in the booth and I lit his 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.120 ass up, flamed this ass up and. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:41.719 Ship from now. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.719 When I came out the booth, pop pop niggas to 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.800 start putting hands on me or whatever, and they like 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.320 locked me in the room and like bugs was the 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.679 guy that pulled me out the room. And then that's 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.920 how I got out my contract with the street guys 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.080 or whatever, and then I signed my deal with DMX, 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:59.440 and that's how that started him. Yeah, he was the producer. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:01.520 He's a top producer. Got that just taught me all 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.439 the stuff. Like the street guy. No, he's a producer, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.880 he's just a music guy. But the street guy that 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.000 was running ship was on some sugar night ship. So 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.040 when like after he rapped and after he put the 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.920 pieces on me, he like handed me a pin in 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.280 a and a and a paper like write a rap, nigga, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.120 Write a rap, I own you nigga. And then I 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:20.800 was a kid. So once they put hands on me, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.400 you know, I went back and told my parents and 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.000 that's how I got out that deal with the street 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:28.559 dudes and then DMX signed me directly ship. So that's 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:30.959 like early and this is the beginning. This is your 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.959 first experience in the music video. Yes, amazingly enough, So 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.640 that was that was pretty crazy, and then that started 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.800 the DMX era, the Bloodline era. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.120 Like resting piece of X. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.040 Man, that man was really good to me, you know 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.840 what I'm saying, Pauls and uh man, I mean he 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.840 stole my first piece of pussy like I was still 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.240 a virgin. He dirty stole my first piece of ass, Like. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.040 Was it really yours though? Because he was the star? Yes, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.160 but look so look yes it was it was. We 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:01.360 all know how this shit goes. 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.440 I took a question of my So look, we in 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.000 Canada film and Exit Wounds the movie or whatever with 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:09.960 Steven Seagal and all them, and I'm up there with 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.200 him while he's up there, and we go to a 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.360 club and we vibe and he loves pool, so we 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.160 go to a club that got pool tables and then 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.680 we vibing and whatever. And I found me a joint 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.440 and I'm vibe with the joint the whole night. So 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.320 you know, to play the artist when he leave, he 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.600 leaving his car and then the Antourize they get in 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.040 with the homies the security. So I got in with 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.680 the Anthouraze with the girl too, and I'm in the 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.760 band playing with Spliffer. You know what I'm saying it's 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.720 my first time. So this nigga DMX is literally a 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.240 dog though like rest in pieces. Literally like a real 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.719 dog in human form. So like I get out the car, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.520 he already in his room security and got history. I 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.840 go up there and like he had the presidential suite 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.920 and I was in room like sixteen oh two right. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:48.319 Next to his. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.440 So I get there and I'm putting the key in 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.480 the room and next thing I know, the door fling 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:53.520 open the presidential suite. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.280 He're like what up? I'm like what up? He like, heyo, ma, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.679 I think you love your person room. And we never 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.800 been to the hotel at all. Like we met these 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:04.480 women at the. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.880 Hotel and he made a bline away from me and 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:08.880 I never seen. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.440 That woman again. So what I'm going to tell you, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:18.000 my brother, it wasn't you. You weren't you. Weren't hit 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.360 making yet he wasn't you. Wasn't hit making, And that 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.400 was your introduction into this ship. I was trying to 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.240 jump in the game. Man. He took it, took my 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.120 took my vibe away from me. Man for real. So 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:28.400 whoever you. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.080 Are, young lady, if you're watching this right now, you're 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.200 not low viral. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.800 So what's the what's the next pivotal point? Do you 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.200 think after signing the d m X, now it's time 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:43.800 now starting to show improved. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:44.880 I put some numbers on the board. 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.280 Yeah, so I think that X when they gave him 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.360 the deal or whatever, he was just so on fire 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:50.840 that he didn't really know the business. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.160 And that's what was that depth jail. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.280 He wasn't in the vibe of really creating a business. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:58.600 He was X you know what I'm saying. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.640 But he had the right people around him, Shot to Jazz, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.080 Young Tina Davis, Kevin Lyles, Leo, all the people that 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.800 was around or whatever. So at that point, the nigga 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.560 gave me a dog and was like, sure, you gotta 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.839 take this dog everywhere with you. So like I literally 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.520 had a dog, a pitbull, and I took the dog 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.240 out of a dog taking a shit in depth jam 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:17.320 in front of Lee or office. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.439 They ain't saying nothing to me. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.840 Or whatever, Like I'm really running around with a dog 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.520 from there at fourteen too. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.200 Yes, So here's the crazy chain of events. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.800 So now I got guns and shit in my house 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.760 or whatever, like I'm wilding. So like one of my 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.840 people's double cocked the gun while I wasn't there, and 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.600 the gun went off. And I was living in a 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.840 town home, so the gun went through my floor and 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.240 went through a baby's carriage, but thank god, the baby 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.920 wasn't there. So the police rushed my crib that they 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.720 had paid for me. I was living in Edgewater, New 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.360 Jersey or whatever. This word got back to my mom 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.720 and my dad, and then you know, them being rich people. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.000 I'll never forget. I went back to. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.520 Chicago and my mom hit me like, yo, I want 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.400 to take you to the mall. I'm like, shit, I'm 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.680 about to go back to New York. I do want 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.000 to grab a couple things. Come on, let's go. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:00.840 So we went. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.280 She getting all these mysterious phone calls and shit, I'm like, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:04.920 what the fuck is going on? She like, I was 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.680 my new husband. He's gonna meet us at the mall. 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.760 So we go in the mall, I buy some shit. 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.280 I come out and it's two Samoan niggas, like six 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.640 foot niggas at my mom car. And then I'm like 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.600 what's up and she's like they're like, hey, Chris, these 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.080 guys are working on my house. And they're like, oh, 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.160 we hear you do music. Good to meet you. And 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.960 I'm like, yeah, then my mom. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.840 Is just like Chris, you gotta go to school, and 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.120 just went and jumped in a car. 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.040 Nigga popped the trunk and it was all clothes and 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.960 shit like that. So now I'm in the parking lot 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.320 of the mall fighting with these two Samoan niggas. They 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.960 put me in cuffs, the plastic cuffs, and they put 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.640 all the shit out my mom trunk and put in 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:37.960 a car and they put me in a rental car. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.840 So now I'm just riding. Yes it's a Rick Kennedy. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.800 Yes I'm riding. I got a record deal, I'm signing 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:46.320 to Depth Jam, I'm doing all this shit. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:47.360 So we driving. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.320 I'm like, all right, bet we in Chicago. Now we 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.560 downtown Chicago. I'm like, oh, where the fuck were going? 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.440 They like, we can't tell you nothing, you'll know when 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.760 you get there. So now we're at Old Hair Airport. 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.040 I'm like, what the fuck is we doing at the airport? 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.360 So they holding me as we walked through TA saying 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.200 it's too Samoan dudes, And it was a black lady 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:02.440 she like. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.320 Get your hands off that boy. What you got I'm like, 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.320 I don't know them. I run away in the airport. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.040 I run to a daddy and my dumb ass, I'm like, man, 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.240 just take me wherever y'all gonna take me. We get there, 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.720 We get on the first plane, we go to Vegas. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:14.880 They give me a note. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.240 The note was from my mom basically saying she signed 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:21.200 away all her child parental rights to a concentration camp 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.880 type shit, and I was going to school or whatever. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.800 And from there I ended up in Spokane, Washington. From there, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.000 I ended up in Thompson Falls, Montana, and that's how 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.000 I lost my record deal with DMX. They put me 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.760 in a boarding school to where you couldn't look at girls, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.640 you couldn't have condiments while buying. They paying five thousand 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.560 dollars a month for you to be there. So while 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.280 you were there and they telling you a piece of shit, 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.840 your parents is going to seminars to convince them to 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.480 tell them this is the best thing for you. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:46.800 Now. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.040 Me being a delinquent, I acted up there. They sent 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.680 me to Jamaica to some shit called High Impact, so 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.280 I had to walk the same school sent you. Your 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.000 parents They signed the people are just moving you around. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:16:59.640 They signed over. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.680 They right, I was being I was acting out in 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.320 Montana and they sent me to some shit called High 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.359 Impact in Jamaica. I had to walk one hundred laps 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.240 with a ten pound brick on my back. So getting 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.600 back to Thompson Falls, Montana, and I did that, and 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.600 then my father finally came and got me like nine 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:16.000 months later. 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.920 I didn't know nine to eleven happened. I didn't know nothing. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.639 You couldn't watch TV, you couldn't read books, you couldn't 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.560 do it. So you basically just cut off from the world. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.480 And that's how I lost my record deal with Dmax. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.159 What's the name of this school. It was called Spring 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:28.800 Creek Academy and they. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.760 If you google it right now, like they got shipped 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:34.119 with like the people the guards with sexually harassing people. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.440 Like they found out that the owner of the shit. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:37.199 Was a molester. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:41.479 Like it's like a crazy, crazy storys hitting went through. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.359 Oh they sit there to a boarding school. Yeah, they sit. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.960 And people don't realize that, and not even just black 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:52.040 any like rich people, rich people send their kids to 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:53.600 boarding school, like. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.880 A boarding school. Yeah, my mama said, you do one 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:57.359 more thing. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.320 So what happened that you out your pants can afford 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:00.920 to board school. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.840 That's why you didn't go. No, he ain't do that 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.240 thing or what happened. I think that's what saved the 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:09.800 five km. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.040 That's when I got kicked out of school. So when 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.560 I got finally kicked out, like my father came up 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.800 to the school, it's like maybe like a month and 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.119 a half left of school. My father came up to 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.119 school for like the you know, thirteenth fourteenth time, and 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.119 the principal looked at my father and said, listen, if 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.960 you take him home and never bring him back, I'll 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.159 pass them take him. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.959 He was like me, but he was doing this in 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.239 a military. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:44.720 House, my father military trip. What I got torn out 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.280 of the frame, I shit was different. See I was 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:51.160 getting all F's, my whole port car with f when 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.880 I got these, boy, I was getting Jordan's. I got 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:56.560 a C boy, I was getting Jordan's. 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.560 That's crazy. But you know, you know what the wild 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:00.159 thing about that. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.840 And I was having a conversation with my guy both 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.080 that produced to show with us. We were talking about 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.320 that and a lot of times what it is is 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:14.880 is curriculums. Right, like you were a talented child, right, 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.840 that doesn't mean that that fits inside of the frame 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.280 of the way that our curriculums are set up. They 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.640 were trying to teach you things that you were never 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.320 going to use in your life, right because let's let's 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:29.680 be honest, most of these things. 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.400 Are built on people raising. 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:37.919 Workers use for societies to work, you need workers, so 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.360 a lot of times they only teach you to be that. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:40.840 Right. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.480 So when you have this talent, that's why you see 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.200 so many kids that have become successful say they told 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.720 me I wasn't gonna never be shit. It's some of 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.800 you niggas out here lying, some of your niggas lying. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.679 You're teaching, and that you look dumb ass. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.240 But it did happen to a lot of kids though 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.680 that didn't want to pay attention in there because these 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:00.480 things didn't peak their interests. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:01.320 I'm interested. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.240 So I look at someone like yourself and I see 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.400 your successes and I'm like, oh, okay, I get it. 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.160 It's not like, oh, he didn't know it and he's 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.360 not a smart dude, because you obviously a smart guy. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:13.640 You know how to run your business. 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.120 But these things that they were teaching, and the way 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.679 that they were teaching you were not advantageous. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:19.800 To where you were going. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.000 Hell no, I wasn't, and I'm glad I won't remember 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.919 that point because it's something that happened later in my 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.560 life when I worked at Atlantic Records that remind me 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.600 of what you just said or whatever. So I'm gonna 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.800 keep that in mind when we get to that moment though, 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:32.240 for real. 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.880 That's all facts right there. So your cops come get 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.639 you out of border. He saved you. Yeah, wait, but 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.760 did he sign you know you were going there? 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.080 You know I've been so bad, You know how you 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:47.880 just so terrible to your parents that your dad. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.080 Might drop Mike and be like, man, you can't even 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:51.000 get your mama. 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.960 I could do my mama harping on doing this shit, 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:56.960 but I ain't put him in a position to where 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:58.520 he could throw any more flak back. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:00.960 I'd already been so bogused. Was like, all right, bet 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:02.320 God ahead, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.600 So he came and got me. I found out nine 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:06.600 to eleven happened. I found out a Lea passed. I 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.720 ain't know nothing like I got I lovely. I got 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.280 a tattoo of Lee on the back of my neck 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.600 with folk Drake and all stuff or whatever shout to Drake. 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.760 But so from there, like my dad was. 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.240 Just put me on game, like yo, you know you 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.960 got cousins that do music too, like Kenny Gambo is 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:21.400 your cousin Gamble and Huff. 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.640 I'm like, who is that? And then they started. 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.480 He started putting on Game and like all the records 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.680 they had rolled or whatever. So I'm like, damn, that's 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.840 what's up. And my dad took me back to the city. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:32.680 He invested in me. He helped me getting the studio 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.879 or whatever, get some studio time. And from there I 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.679 was like making dope music. And I went and I 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.320 knew Eve, and then Troy Carter became my manager. Troy 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.200 and Jay Irvin they would have They had a company 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:49.680 called Irving Wonder and then Eve got the TV show 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.800 to do on UPN. So at that point, Troy was like, 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.320 I'm moving to LA. If you want to come to LA, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:56.760 I think this is where you could break and I 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:58.600 can help you, give you some opportunity whatever. 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:11.320 So I'm to LA. Troy paid for my condo or whatever. 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.600 I moved to LA and then I was out here 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:15.879 and I was working with Troy and then the first 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.080 project they got me was Eve. 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.800 I wrote the title track, the hook to the title 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.840 track on Eve's album Evolution, and I was like, damn, 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.359 Like I didn't even know what ghostwriting was or writing whatever, 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.000 but I was just doing anything to get a couple 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:29.680 of dollars or to do anything to be in a mix. 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:33.800 From there, we did barbershop soundtrack that Eve was on, 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.480 and then id meaning a lot of people, and I 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.720 met this girl named Morgan Smith that Eve was executive 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:41.880 producer of the project in Troy and Jay had signed 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.000 her to Interscope, and she was a young woman, pretty rapper, 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:49.359 beautiful girl. And I wrote a whole album and so 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.600 like the projects are in a scrapping, Yeah, I wrote 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.280 the whole album top to bottom, damn executive producer, whatever, 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.040 produced or whatever. You know what I'm saying. I was 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.119 pretty much her. So that was my first way to 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.960 get into the game. I'll never forget this ship, this nigga. Well, 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.280 now Troy my brother now too. I'm gonna say that 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.840 much my life story, you might as well. It is 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:12.560 so the nigga Troy had had me wearing like his 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.360 diamond chain. It's back when diamond chains first popped off 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.159 with the doll tag or whatever. I was wearing the 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.280 shit and fucking uh the nigga. 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:22.800 We in there. We're working on the album. I remember 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:23.400 we doing. 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:26.479 The ship and uh, I'm like, well, shit, what's up? Like, 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.440 you know, like I wrote the album like it's not 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:29.800 to get paid, Like, what's up? 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:34.160 Y'all got some bread for me? He like, nigga? Uh 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.159 that chain that show payment for the album. 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:40.960 I'm like, but he was my manager and my dog 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:42.320 and I love Jerry so much. 0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.320 As y'all still to see that. I was just like, yeah, 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:45.200 you know what, all. 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.080 Right, I'm gonna take the chain. I'm gonna ride it out. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.240 And this is the funniest part of the story. So 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.560 we go and the House of Blues still alive and 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:55.359 it's still running. And they were managing Jada Kiss at 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.639 the time too. So I went in there. I got 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:01.000 drunk with Jadakiss on Hennessy. I'm loaded or whatever, me 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:02.919 and Troy and so you know, you get loaded. So 0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.359 now I'm mad about not having no money, you know 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:05.879 what I'm saying. 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.640 Like me, y'all know Troy a little too. 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.040 Me and Troy got into a fistfight altercation in front 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:16.640 of the. 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:17.800 Buck niggas had a lightweight down one. 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:20.679 In front of the House of Blues, like you know 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:24.119 where the London is right on that you talking about 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:25.840 the only two niggas who had. 0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:28.119 So we fought. 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.639 He took the chain and the chain popped or whatever, 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.440 and he took the chain. So now I'm like, damn 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.480 with a chain of He's like, I'm gonna get it 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.040 to you whatever, and uh, he ended up giving the 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:40.959 chain away. I ain't gonna get into details about that, 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.840 you know what I'm saying, because that's my dog or whatever. 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.280 But he gave the chain away, and I was just 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.920 like damn, Like I just felt so betrayed, Like damn, 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.200 I wrote this ship. Subsequently, the girl ended up getting dropped, 0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.120 her mom was a movie and all the. 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:53.879 Other stuff happened. 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:55.600 So now I was just back at square one with 0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:01.080 Troy and Jane seventeen. I like, you still ain't really 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:05.040 grown nah at all. So from there, like I'm I'm 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.200 on hard times, you know what I'm saying. I think 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.560 Troy and Jake I remember that's when they became like 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.000 the Remember Vincent Herbert. They did a deal with Vincent Herbert. 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.680 They had like this fucking office on sun whatever. Yeah 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:20.400 blah blah, yeah, yeah, Matthew. 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:24.080 Knows it wasn't. Shout outs to Matthew knows too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.359 shout outs to Matthew. I like the man. I like, 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:29.760 I like how you think too, man. 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:34.160 So that happens, and then I think the timeline from 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.639 there is that me, Troy, and Jay we end up 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.200 parking ways, you know what I'm saying, behind that or whatever, 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:41.720 or they just got too busy for me, you know 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.159 what I'm saying. Like, So I was out here and 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.919 I ended up moving in with my weed man, you 0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:47.679 know what I'm saying. And my weed man was a 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.240 club promoted at a club called Privilege. And this is 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.360 back in the era of t K. Y'all remember when 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.880 you know t K worked for hypnosis. Now, the people 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.119 that's buying all the catalogs or whatever from people t K, 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.119 he's gonna find their way shout out to you know what, 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:06.240 Shout out to Los Angeles because Los Angeles is a 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:07.960 place where you can find. 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.800 It and a lot. 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:18.840 My god, that's when LA was really yeah yeah, yeah, 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:24.320 Monday Monday ship. So I was doing that. My my 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.080 we man was a promoter at the club. So he 0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.320 ended up introducing me to DJ Echo and Echo was 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:30.960 at power. 0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:31.320 One oh six. 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.359 And then from there, I remember I did this song 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.480 called Sexy Lady, and like we didn't have no engineer 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.760 or none of that ship. We're not just gonna let 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:40.600 you just breeze. 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.520 Over that record. I thought he was gonna get into it. 0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.360 He goes into it to take a ship, like that's 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.040 a mother record. Come on, don't don't play with the 0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:50.880 record like it's. 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:51.920 Just it's weak. No. 0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.240 Look, this dude Junior who sings the hook on Sexy 0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:59.120 was like my brother. His sister was so beautiful. Oh 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.159 my god, man, I loved his sister. She was one 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.560 of the baddest chicks ever. But so that's the tidebar. 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:08.120 But anyway, I remember recording the record at my engineers 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.680 at my weed man's house, and we had no engineer, 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.120 so like I would press three and leave it from 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:15.440 the beginning and go run. 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.159 Into the booth and then rap my ship you know 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.399 what I'm saying, then go back do it again. Whatever. 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.640 So we flushed the song out and my weed man 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.320 was the promoter, so we kept going to Privilege, we 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.119 kept going to TK Shit and Echo would spin my joint. 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:30.680 Like I remember, I was going there with a chin 0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:32.920 chill on board, be hot as hell outside of that La. 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:34.919 Boy, but I was just doing anything to be noticed. 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:36.600 This back in the day, he was a promoter wet 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:38.399 had no money, so we would go to routs and 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.800 buy the bottles before we get to the club. He 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.040 would sneaking being through the back and then bring him 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:44.080 out to us or whatever. 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.399 Yeah, like we're doing a vibe. 0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.280 So the song starts bubbling, and then we created a 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.800 database of He used to hand the clipboard out at 0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.800 the club and get everybody number and get all body 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.119 shit or whatever. So from there, Echo was like, this 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:57.840 song is kind of blowing up, Like I want to 0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:59.680 take you to a pole one on six mixer meeting. 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:02.040 So I go to Power one oh six. I tell 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.600 my life story for them niggas. I cried a little 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.199 bit at the end of the shit or whatever, and 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:11.280 they were standing. Ovation started off and mixed show or 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.800 about like six weeks later that she was in Power Rotation. 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.679 I ain't had no deal or nothing, and it was 0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.640 it was like it was random because I'm from Chicago. 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.960 I'm not even from La so you're thinking that maybe 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.000 somebody from LA. 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.120 That could be their story that I get a record. 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:26.479 I'll get it to the DJ and I go up. 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.760 So now I'm just blew up. Sexy Lady was the 0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:33.440 hottest shit in the streets. So from there, my management 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.800 now or my business partner now that I work with 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.160 Billy J who worked with John Monopoly. At the time, 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.120 we was all kids and shit. He called somebody an 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.560 epic record looking for somebody else, and I. 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.000 Think Dave McPherson and some shit like that. Well, Sony 0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:46.800 or whoever. 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.880 Back in the day was the big dog, and a 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:53.040 lady named Katie Katie Welly picked up. She was a 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:54.640 Keith Nashally's assistant. 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:55.920 She wasn't she was. 0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.600 She was like j was a famous one if she 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.200 was at Famous music when I was at fan Miss 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.360 Katie is now a Sony. Yeah, Katie a big dog 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.240 and you don't notice, but Katie was instrumental in clearing 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.720 some of our records for it that came through Sony, 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.920 so shout out yeah. So Katie Welly heard the record, 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.000 caught the record, it was already blowing up, and she 0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.320 introduced Billy to Keith and then I did a showcase 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.920 and Keith came, and from there they gave me a 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.400 label deal. Like yeah, shit, he'll take it. You know, 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.800 I didn't meet Charlie Walker. I just met Keith or whatever, 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.320 and then they gave me the label deal. From there, 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.160 the record was already blowing up. And then Junior, the 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.560 guy that was on the hook, got the big head 0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:37.680 and was like, Nigga, is they don't even like your 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:39.760 partner song? The song it's really about me as the hook. 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:40.760 I'm like, Nigga, you ain't right. 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:41.920 The hook though, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.240 You was a nigga singing and you my brother, So 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:45.840 you know how the labels when you write the song 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:46.480 about the system. 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.200 Hell no, nigga, you said you said something about it. 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.480 He said something about I'm like yo. 0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.800 His sister was Dayton t R at the time, Jason 0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.440 Jason josh Yesh. 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:03.320 We knew his interview was. 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:10.280 So from there that happens and we get the deal. 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.960 Junior gets the big head. So Junior is supposed to 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:14.840 be signing my company. They went back door at me 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.440 Epic and signed Junior to his own deal. So I'm like, 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.400 we had this demo together and all the other shit. 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:21.840 They wanted the songs. I'm like, I'm not giving a 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:23.240 nigga no song. Y'a got to give me a quarter 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.440 million dollars just to walk in the studio with this nigga. 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:26.440 So they never did it. 0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.239 They sent him on a world tour and then they 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.640 ended up dropping the nigga or whatever off of shit. 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.640 And then from there was one of them moments I 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.840 put out that record on the EP, and this is 0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.880 when ray J was just on fire, like he was 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.560 like what like I was. It's brandy brother, he knocking 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.520 everything down like he was the guide in me. 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.760 So I'm like, I want ray J on my EP. 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.760 So my manager finds ray Jo, who still works with 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.479 ray J and they developed the Scootie bike and all 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.400 that shit together. That's further down the line or whatever. 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.520 So ray come to the studio. You're like, yeah, you know, no, 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.120 you like to sexy his nigga in. 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:07.560 A game right now? I'm like, what, Like he like, 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.120 you know you got the sexy Lady. 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.880 I got this record I want you to hear though 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:14.960 it's called Sexy can I. 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.360 I'm like, I'm good off that. 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.560 Like I already had the song of business with the 0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.280 girl cash or singing I'm like, I'm coming with that 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.760 nixt I know what this is, and he's like, nah. 0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.360 It's gonna be big for us. Bro. 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.560 So he did his record on my shit. He left somehow. 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:31.400 I was just like no, like I was on fire. 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.120 I was like, I had the number one regular country. 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:34.440 I'm like, I'll get to that shit. I ain't gonna 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:35.640 do that shit. I want to go with what my 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.120 plan is. From there, he got it to Charlie Walk 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.400 because ray J subsequently did a deal with Cotch Records, 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.480 and if you remember, Cotch d in Shadow were working 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:50.480 all the Urban Records as everybody everybody. So from there, 0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:52.880 Charlie Walk calls me to New York, summons me to 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.800 New York. I'm thinking, like we're gonna talk about my 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.120 next single and shit like that. 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.480 I go in there. God bless me, Charlie. I love you. Man. 0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:01.720 Charlie had to be on some coke or some shit 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.880 like that or whatever, like wilding out. The nigga was 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:07.240 on top of his piano dancing to Sexy Ken I 0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.160 like the in the Epic Records office. He's dancing on 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.920 top of the piano. My brother like dancing. He like 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.200 it's gonna be the biggest record of your fucking career. 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.440 I'm like what. I'm like, what's the record you turned out? Yeah? 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.040 I'm like, bro, because ray J gave it the cock. 0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.680 So now they thinking like they're gonna backdoor or whatever. 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.320 So I'm like, bro, I'm gonna be the sexiest nigga 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.960 in America from Sexy Lady the Sexy Ken I am my. 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.560 Right said, fred is my album name. I'm too sexy now. 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.960 Nigga like, how am I going from Sexy Lady to 0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:37.000 Sexy Kenna? And then Charlie was like, man, what is 0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:38.440 gonna take for you to do this song? It's gonna 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:39.680 be the biggest record of your career. 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.080 I said, you gotta buy me an epic record. Shame 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.560 He like that's all. Like you're in this fucking jewelry. Man, 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:49.080 I love it. I love y'all know you dude, you 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:50.000 know I love it. 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.920 So look the nigga gets off the piano and then 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.840 he goes and I'm like, yo, Jason and Beverly Hills 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:56.560 is my jeweler. 0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:57.960 You gotta get me the chain. 0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.320 He called Jason right there, probably came out my budget 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.880 or whatever, and they caught me the chain on the spot. 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.400 So now I'm like, man, they put me in a corner. 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.000 They to pay for the chain. So from there I 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.640 go to Miami and from like literally the della no 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.560 to what willis? I wrote my verses and and and 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.040 finished the song in between writing it from there, so 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.920 we do that. I do my verses at Circle House 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:27.920 Studio and then the cookies Man cookies. 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.760 In order to get there. You know, they got mango 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:33.480 trees in the back. 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.760 So at that point, and this is a crazy time 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.440 when I did the record, like this. 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:38.800 Is like. 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.600 My set, Like I was introduced to ecstasy from like 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:44.760 IRV Godi and Jo. 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.080 Rule when they had the murder. 0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.400 Man and with the whole notherd this nigga just hit 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.040 the last left turn. 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:51.680 I was introduced. 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:53.480 So look when I did my verses for that, I 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.920 met Pleasure p for the first time or whatever circle 0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.200 House Studio, and Pleasure was like, hey, so you want 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:00.600 one of these he gave. 0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:06.200 Me, He gave me some or whatever. 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:11.640 So I oh, I did my verses for a little song, 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.160 and I remember Pitt Bull was there and I'm like, bro, 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.440 you want to ecstasy because I'm so geeked up off. 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.680 He's like, no, poppy. I'm from Miami. If I'm gonna 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:19.880 get to it, I'm gonna get to it. 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:34.640 I'm not gonna play with it. That's just reminded me 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.080 of mother fucking scar Face dancing in the club. So 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:43.600 you know, you, buddy bok, he wasn't gonna play with it. 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.200 So I did my bees and I never forget we went. 0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.560 We flew from their circle house. We have been back 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.319 to l A. So not the record done. 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.000 We're here in l A. 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.160 And uh, they like, Ray wants to finish the song 0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.680 with you. So I'm like, alright, bet so this like 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.600 in between I mean him giving me the song or whatever. 0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.719 Now he's did his deal with Vivid, you know what 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:05.480 I'm saying, Like it's. 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.680 Through the roof and the state. Now now it's a thing. 0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:10.719 So so it's all at the same time. 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.480 Yeah, it's all in the same So before he had 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.240 the song, kind of before he the tape came, it 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:17.960 became a thing when he did his deal and got 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.160 his bag from it. So now you know, we at Encore. 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.920 You know he's pulling up Lamborghini. Ray, you know, he 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.719 in his bag or whatever. So I'll never forget it. 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.280 We get in there and then you're like, yo, my brother, 0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:33.719 I'm with cash or the girl that saying the hook 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.239 on the bene she was like my best friend at 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.640 the time or whatever. So he like, man, you know, 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.960 I don't need no disrespect, but you mind if I like, 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:42.880 I got to get into my energy, You mind if 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:43.919 I play these I don't want. 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:44.640 To disrepect your girl. 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.880 And he just threw out a bunch of vivid DVDs 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.320 or porn movies on it on account and I'm. 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:50.840 Like, bro, this's my best friend. You could play that. 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.759 So we in encore he put the porno on the 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.080 TV or whatever. Mind you. 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.920 Tierra Mariaz his girlfriend too, So Tierra Maria is with 0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.720 him while we're doing all this at Arencore. So okay, 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.680 we finished this song and I'll never forget he was doing. 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.279 He got a run at the end where he's like 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.520 getting in Jesus Jansen gun. But he was in there 0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.080 like I gotta give him my Stevie. 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.000 I got to hit my Stevie. 0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.560 And like t Air Marie was clowning him so bad 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:16.840 while we was doing this shit. 0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.160 It was the most hilarious shit. So we finished the 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.160 song and then next thing I know, they like this 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.120 shit is about to be the biggest song with your career. 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:24.439 It's a hit. Blah blah. 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.400 Because when I did this song, like Ray would go 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.600 for four bars and I say nothing, Then like a 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.600 minute later he would pop back in with four more 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.839 bars and then it'd be blank again. So I kind 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.840 of like arranged his part and wrote my part and 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:39.640 came up with other parts for us to do together 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:40.120 on the song. 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:41.520 So that's how that went. 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:45.799 From there. We go to Miami shoot the video. So 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:47.400 we shooting the first shot of the video, me and 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.680 him and Lamborghini. I'm smoking a blunt. It's police around 0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:52.880 us there to secure us in Miami for the shoot. 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.319 I'm smoking this down to a roach. 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.480 I'll throw it out the Lamborghini before the first take 0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.239 of the video. The police that's securing us come pick 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.840 the roach up off the ground smelling and pulled me 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.200 off the lamborghin me and locked my. 0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.880 Ass up right there on the spot. On God, y'all 0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.480 hired them to a rest. You pretty nigga took me 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.120 to jail. Jack, I'm not even talking about like it 0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:16.239 wasn't nothing like about nigga. Miami jail, Miami jail. 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.560 Listen, there I had to build a couple of homies 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.840 out y'all know who y'all are. Cost me ten thousand 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.160 dollars one weekend, you know. But I ain't gonna never 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.759 leave my niggas in Miami jail for it to be 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:32.200 that hot outside in jail in Miami. Nigga tried to 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:34.399 ask one of the Hommy told me when they got out, 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:35.879 we got the niggas out like five six in the morning. 0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.040 He said, you know, nigga tried to ask me for 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.200 my shirt. Bro, I said, did you give me your shirt? 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.839 Hell no, I ain't giving my telling what nigga asks 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.399 you for. The next nigga, get your shirt up off. Yeah. Yeah, 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.080 So I know about all that in there. 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.400 So I'm in jail and nigger to add to the story, 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:54.239 So this is around the time, you know Ray J 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.840 and Shaquille O'Neil our apartments on the Sexy ken I 0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.000 song and money Mark or whatever what's the nigga that 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.160 beat used to be with shaq whatever like man his 0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:06.200 name mark and long story short, this is when Shaquille 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.120 was on his like sheriff type ship. 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:08.719 He had just. 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.560 Became like a cop. So the nigga Shaquille came and 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.920 bailt me out of jail, like ten hours later or whatever. 0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.960 He got back jail. Yeah, in Miami, Miami. He was 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:16.960 a sheriff in Miami. 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.160 I mean Hember exactly. 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.279 So he came and got me out of jail. I 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.919 think I spent like ten hours in jail. I get 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.440 there's nighttime. We shoot the end of the video. You 0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.759 wouldn't even know whatever, Like it never happened to get 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:31.759 right back to shooting video. 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:36.000 He's still shooting the video in jail. We just gotta 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:40.080 keep going. The homie gonna be good. He's just he's 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.040 just downright, but he's gonna be good, trust me to 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:44.160 hold his way around. 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:45.719 Was the exact vibe that he was on. 0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.640 And when I got back ship, he was already super 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.040 geeked up on a on a bean, on his ecstasy 0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:53.000 or whatever, and then gave me an ecstasy. I popped 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:57.200 that ship right right do. I'm going to watch this 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:58.440 video listen, man. 0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.279 I gotta go. I gotta go rewind now back into 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:02.240 those times. 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.840 I just think about all of the clubs, all of 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:07.560 the move arounds. 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:08.840 That I was a part. I never had none of 0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.720 those ecstasy in my system. I mean the VALENTINEO fuck around. 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.040 Extasy is amazing. 0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:20.239 Ecstasy was. Ecstasy was amazing. Ectasy was not today. I 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.760 don't pop pills, I don't do dress. But in that time, 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.200 what it was, the it was, the pure it was. 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.120 It wasn't stepped on that ship was beautiful. I used 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:29.759 to wake up. 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.640 Like nigga because you know, like ecstasy kind of gave 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.280 you the bubble gus, you gotta go to the bathroom. 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:34.800 I don't know. 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.319 I used to wake up at my career nigga and 0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:40.839 pop an ecstasy Nigga, like upon the wake up take off. 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.040 Then you know what I'm saying, You use the bathroom 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.000 shower so you fresh for the day. I'm be on 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.600 ecstasy nigga at nine a m. 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.680 And Wow I was. I was wow. I was a 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:54.800 social you know what I'm saying, Like, where are we going? Oh? Shoot, 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:56.799 when we get there, pop up, We're gonna be there 0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:59.840 for two three. I was turning up that That was me. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.279 You know, I come from the drug dealers, you know, 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:05.920 so I you know my experience of it in my outlet. 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.359 You've never done ecstasy, I've never done anything. It's try 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:13.799 shrooms like the little chocolate microdo. It's close to it, 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.279 without the without the hangover, without the bullshit that coming 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:19.560 next day. You microdos a little bit, you'll be a vibe. 0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.040 You will be a vibe. You think you popping that 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:26.880 management ship. Now you think you're talking tell the bar that. 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:33.320 Like and he already called me with fifteen ideas already 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.080 have to bro over. 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:38.520 I appreciate you know what I mean, what you're trying 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:38.719 to do. 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:39.080 I ain't. 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:44.080 Yeah, what's beautiful back in the day. So we do that, 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:45.880 all right? So what happened? 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:49.560 So we do that with video, finish the video, and. 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.120 Then ship they put that sexy canal and I ain't 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.759 gonna lie that ship like a rocket ship rocket. I 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.839 never expected it to be that. Never, because you got 0:40:59.920 --> 0:41:01.920 to think nigga. They had put like styles P and 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:04.359 other niggas before they put me on the record, and 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.320 then they was like, visually, this don't match up styles P, 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:08.600 Like was super hard. 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.640 You know what I'm saying, right, So. 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.040 They went and came and got me, and man, that 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.920 shit took off like a rocket. Next thing I know, 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:17.879 me and raj a like back to back tour bus. 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.920 This nigga on the road promoting Sexy Cannot which I've 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:22.680 seen some of the craziest ship on the road with 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:24.560 ray J. Shot out to him and his relationship or 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:26.880 whatever now and him and Princess, I have none but respect. 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.440 But y'all gonna get these stories from that era. It's different. 0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.680 It is what it is. I'm gonna tell Sorry, I'm 0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:32.359 gonna tell the story. 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:33.439 Listen, listen. 0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:38.080 All roads in the music business, the fuck the music business, 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:44.360 all roads and entertainment to somehow, all roads, somehow that 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:50.200 nigga all rolls like ray J raisia fucking urban legend nigga. 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.719 Ray J took Whitney Houston a compound with us and 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:54.320 there you have it. 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:56.640 I'll never forget this shit ever. 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.800 Like Whitney, and this was my first time meet and 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.120 Whitney she was a gangst like she was one of 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.799 them ones, like for real, Like we in there, like 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.120 she's smoking us cigarettes, chain smoking cigarettes. 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.200 Vibe. Man. We had compound. We in the back waiting. 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:10.360 She like, man, send one the motherfuckers in there, go 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:12.240 get us some patrol. They came out with the gallon 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.960 of patron for us. Me and Whitney throwing back patrol 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:16.440 shots out the Gallon together. 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:18.200 From that night we went in there. 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.920 She came in the club while we performed Sexy Kenna. 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:22.640 She was standing in the club with us as a 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.640 picture on my Instagram and me her Ray J from 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.959 that night, Nigga walking in compound like no cop, let's 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:32.840 take this shot, Let's take this rest in peace, Whitney 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:33.520 to good. 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:46.839 Times, man to ray So you have your run right, 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.480 you moving as young ber, you know what I mean. 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.200 It's you know, you're out here making your records. You're 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.440 getting that side of the business. You're getting that side 0:42:54.440 --> 0:43:01.120 of the paper and that money. And then what what 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.560 was what was the moment for you where you were 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:08.600 like I gotta make a shit. So look I went 0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.239 and like I moved to my I was living in 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.719 a big ass crib out here, like off of Topanga 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.359 or whatever. And I had a bunch of niggas living 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.399 with me, and I looked at my bills. I'm like, damn, 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.839 I'm like spending like fifty five thousand illars a month. 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.399 You know what I'm saying, to live before I even 0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:25.919 smoke a blunt or do anything like the house and nothing. 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.600 I ain't got no nothing. Nigga's just me so from there, 0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:33.040 I was just like, man, I'm out my paper getting low, 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:33.640 you know what I'm saying. 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.960 So I moved to Miami and well. 0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:38.279 Actually I was presented with an opportunity a guy named 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.120 Brian McKinney, who played for the Minnesota Vikings at the time. 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.080 Yeah, Brian been instrumental in a lot of cool music. 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.520 Shit man, Yeah, So Brian was like, look, I'm starting 0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:47.040 my label. 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:48.200 I believe in you. 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.200 I know you write and produce and you do good 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:51.960 records or whatever. I want you to help me with 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.560 my label whatever, and I'm gonna move you to Miami. 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:56.719 And shit, you ain't got to worry about nothing. I 0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:58.600 got a studio in my house. And at this point 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.600 Briant was the god. 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.960 Like I'm talking about, he blew. He blew a bag. 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.960 Niggas don't understand what the lineman's make. Bro, the NFA 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:09.640 they make the real bag. 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.640 Bro. He the blind Side. They made movies about them. 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.520 He's a hundred plus to the good. Bro. He was 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.320 getting to the bag. 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.960 I've never so from there, he moved me to Miami, 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.120 and I'll never forget when I get to Miami. Now 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.600 it's the w Hotel Brickle or whatever. But in the 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.399 back they got the living, the house and the residential shit. 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.080 Nigga pay my whole rent for a year. I think 0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.680 my rent was like eight thousand dollars. He came in 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.279 and paid it in one wap for twelve months like shit. 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:40.799 So I ain't had no bills no more. And I 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.360 moved to Miami and I dropped a hunting on him. Yeah, 0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.239 he take this, And I was just moving around with 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:45.839 that nigga. Boy. 0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.919 That nigga was a party animal, man, I'm talking about. 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.000 He's an animal man. I lived the life of all 0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.480 lives with him. Like I remember, we came out here 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:57.200 for bet Awards, and this nigga must have flew every 0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.279 little dirty lady from King of Diamonds with him to 0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.080 even the fat girls. 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:06.400 Came every nice clean, nice clean. 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.120 Me and Tanks played basketball at the King of played basketball? 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.279 Did you get a haircut at the King of y'all? 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:20.439 You have played volleyball, y'all? 0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.280 Niggas y'all was before me, y'all there before me, y'all 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.320 seen it like y'all seen till seven am. 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:30.080 And we got there at six fifteen. We spent the 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:30.800 full taker. 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:34.040 Brian flew like thirty women from King of Diamonds to 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.399 l A for BT Awards, and like we were all 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:40.200 staying at the mandri Onga, like twenty hotel rooms. Ohlah blah, 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:42.759 and I ain't know, like it was crazy because like 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:44.759 I was spending my own money on drinks, like you know, 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.560 I had girls coming through and I walked in one 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.600 of the strippers room. These ladies had room service power 0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:50.440 to the floor. 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:54.240 I'm like, how y'all buying all this? Like his credit 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:54.839 card is down. 0:45:54.880 --> 0:46:00.160 At the incidentals, I said, holy ship, I caught. 0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.239 Y'all come to my yard. Man scot ball in my yard. 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:06.760 I was balling out of control. 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.799 So Brian Man he came in, really was like an 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.560 angel for me at that time because I was still 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.520 trying to figure it out. So from there trying to 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.520 figure it out, I'm like, uh, fuck it, I'm moved 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.120 to Atlanta. I moved to Atlanta, and I realized how 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:22.120 clicky it was in Atlanta, like because it would be 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:25.640 like Polo and them over there, akon and booing them 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.799 over here, but everybody had their own little ship, so 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.239 I couldn't really get into the. 0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:32.600 Mixed team Paine over here or whatever. 0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:38.120 And DJ Infamous like I go and I Well, first 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.160 happened was I signed producers and then we did this 0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.279 record by this guy. It was kind of like a 0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.160 one hit one day. It was like called Snapbacks and 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:46.560 Tattoos snap Back. 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:47.359 We did the song. 0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.880 Yeah, that was like one of my first producers. 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:50.400 Like Joints or whatever. 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.640 Yeah, I did that record, shout out to Tricky shot 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.439 a Coop. And then from there I did my idea 0:46:56.480 --> 0:47:00.800 publishing deal with my producer with Ludacris, with Shaka and Jeff. 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:05.080 And the funny thing is because Sean Formoso and Tone 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:08.799 Day were the little guys under Shaka and Jeff who 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.879 now run lvr N or whatever. They was under them, 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.120 So like I was able, they were young, I was young. 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:15.759 We like in the same age range. So I got 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.200 the publishing deal from my producer and then from there 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.840 I did a hook for DJ Infamous called double Cup 0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:22.680 and I was on the song. And that's the first 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:27.120 time I ever said hitmaker. I was on the songs me, Ludacris. 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:30.840 Juicy J and Uh Young Jeezy. 0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:35.000 So this around the time or whatever, They're like, niggas 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:36.640 weren't fucking with me, Like this be a honey you 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:37.880 know what I'm saying. I was like, I had a 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.080 bad stigma on me, but I was infamous, was looking 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:40.440 out for. 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.560 Me, and Jeezy was on fire. So we shooting a 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:43.359 video and ship. 0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:45.040 But Jeez ain't want to let me in none of 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:46.759 his shots or whatever because he ain't want to be 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:48.560 to be around him or nothing like that or whatever. 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.520 So you know, I got lit on the set. They 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:57.239 like action, Well I go running. Jez already knew what 0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.759 this nigga did, ran in his She was like, man, 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:08.960 I go quick crazy. This was like, bro, you gotta go. 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.840 You already did your part. I did my parts already. 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:14.799 I was just leaking around. Yeah, I was there from 0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:16.920 the daytime. Now you know Jeezy to start, so we 0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.360 coming later. He's showing up late. But I'm like, damn, 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.160 I wrote the song. It's me on the hook, It's 0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:23.480 my song. I gave it him how you don't want 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:24.520 to be around me and I'm on. 0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:25.440 It's my song. 0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.120 From there, that was like the first time I ever 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:32.160 said hitmaker, and that was just like it didn't happen, 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:34.560 like I'm hit maker, Like you know what I'm saying. 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:36.160 That's why I'd be weird when people be like. 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.719 Well, Burg hit maker, what I call nigga, I'm still Burg. 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.040 I'm still younger unless I do a face off nigga, 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:42.960 I'm still young Berg. 0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:44.480 I can call me whatever you want, nigga. You know 0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:44.879 what I'm saying. 0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.040 Okay, you already got check calling me whatever, nigga whatever. 0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.399 So from there, I do that that record, and then 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.960 I'm in it. I'm in Atlanta and I had a 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:58.160 bunch of demos that I had from Miami and like, 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.520 I'm like, damn, how do I do this? And fucking 0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:05.040 Vincent Herbert Cousin ends up getting contact with me. I 0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.120 sent him a record, got to Tamar and it got 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.080 to Vince, and Vince was like, man, I want to 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.480 bring you here to La to work on this TAMARW album. 0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:14.200 And they flew me out first class. 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.200 I'm like, oh shout, I'm back first class because you know, 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.799 a nigga go down and coach. You know what I'm saying, 0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.520 Like when this is the line like cut off, you 0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.160 know you're back in the humble beginning. Flew me first class, 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.720 put me at the Sophie tail before yourself. I still 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:26.640 be trying to fly coach. 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.560 He won't let me. Man my ass and touched the coach. 0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.000 Seaton like and listen, I don't give a fuck I 0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.439 do because you see where the thing is. You about 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.279 to put out your single? You will care because then 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:37.560 catch you with your mouth opening. 0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:39.480 I won't a coach or whatever like. 0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:41.719 This because they won't listen, because they won't catch me 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.120 on my mouth open because no, no, no, no, no, no 0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:45.840 no no no, listen, listen. 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:46.799 He takes a cover. 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:48.719 I got a cover he got from Delta, but I 0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:50.320 literally put nigga. 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:51.360 I put the cover on. 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.759 If you see a white it's probably me. 0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:59.640 And like, I don't see why don't you know the tricks? Huh? 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.759 So you how I do nigga? I do that in 0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:06.640 first class. I'll do that when he's spending his money. 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.239 You coach, He's like, man, I ain't got time for 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.799 this ship, but I promise you when we send that 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:13.760 rider to the promoter. 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:17.279 I'm judging you. 0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.719 I'm judging you because I judge the women that they 0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:23.040 get flyouts based off that. Like if you fly, if 0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:25.000 you fly first class when you book in your own flight, 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:26.719 I'm gonna fly your first class if you. 0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.919 Fly coach when you book your own fight. But we're 0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:31.479 working either way. 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:33.799 Yeah, I mean maybe they're working too, of course, but 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.040 you know what I mean. But when we're working and 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:38.200 it's a part of the you know, it's a part 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:38.640 of the rider. 0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:40.320 It is what it is. But the truth of the 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:40.839 matter is. 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.319 Even when I fly myself first class, right for me, 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:46.600 it doesn't I mean, it's just me. 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:47.600 They don't really matter. 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.200 I have bad luck with and I don't care about perception. 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:52.040 I had bad luck with. I'm the Valentine. 0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:55.399 I had bad luck as a youngster though, because it's 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.120 a different type of hurt and feeling that you got 0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.560 when you get on a plane and like. 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:01.920 An Angela Simmons and. 0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:07.239 Fast city and you young, you gotta walk back and 0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:11.719 then you gotta walk back like hey, everybody, everybody got. 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:12.960 They everybody got it. 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.319 I'll say hello. I might even stop talking to him 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.120 for a minute. I see y'all on the plane land. 0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.920 Man, Yeah, everybody got the bow. Wow. Fucked that up 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:25.719 for me. I ain't flying coach. And now my nig 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.200 give that's my dog, you know. Now, my dog, Me 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.160 and Bow had dark days. 0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.760 Or whatever back in the day, just over whatever stuff 0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.080 and women and stuff like that. But man, that's my dog. Now, 0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:38.600 but I'm not going to coach. I don't get the 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:41.160 bag has to be Well, if the bag is that big, 0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:42.759 then why would I be flying coach Anyway. I was 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.240 about to say, like, if it's a million dollars somewhere, 0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:47.680 that's like, yo, you you have no choice but to 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:48.040 get on it. 0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:49.799 I'm out coach me. 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.840 You know what I'm saying, masked up whatever, But my 0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.560 ass saying touch no coach. 0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:57.239 Sheating seven years for real, for real? 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:01.160 I respect and it's never going back. Okay, maker, no coach. 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:03.920 So you said hit maker in that song. That was 0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:07.000 the first time you said hitmaker. Why did it become 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:08.319 a thing or how did it become a thing? 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:12.240 Uh? Ship, I don't know. It just happened organically. 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.279 I wish I could really say, like I was like, yo, 0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:17.000 I'm I'm gonna be hit maker or that's what I 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:20.160 just said. It came out here to La was up 0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:22.719 at the Sophie Tail working on Tamar Braxton Love and 0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.359 War albums. So like the song that they wanted. When 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.759 I get to the studio, I owed the studio some 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.080 money in Miami so they wouldn't relinquish the file for 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.080 me to cut it. So like I had to come 0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:33.799 up with the audible you know what I'm saying on 0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:37.160 the spot because the first class though, and you wanna 0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:38.760 pay that motherfucker studio field. 0:52:43.560 --> 0:52:45.320 I didn't buy that. I'd have been coaching. I was 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:47.759 frying myself. So we do that. 0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:50.960 We get out there and Tamar you know now, you 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:52.839 know what I'm saying. Me and Tamar are super cool. 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.360 We in a good space or whatever. But she was 0:52:54.400 --> 0:52:56.560 in she was in her bag. This when Tamar and 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.160 Vince had that TV show like they were and resting 0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:00.919 piece of Lashan Dan. It was, you know what I'm saying, 0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.080 when he was the go to guy. He was in there, 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.840 you know what I'm saying. So from there, I'm like, 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:08.919 I ain't got that song, but I got another song 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.840 that I think Crazy played it for. It's called the 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.320 One or whatever ended up being her single on that project, 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.799 and she loved it, and they went in there and 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.759 did it. They took my tag off the song. I'm like, damn, Like, 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:21.200 you know what I'm saying, So I created a new 0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:22.960 tag the way I just screamed on the song in 0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:24.399 the background and made it a part of the shit. 0:53:24.480 --> 0:53:27.319 So it still stayed on the song, and that was 0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.319 like I was like, fuck it, I'm moving back to LA. 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:31.720 Like you know what I'm saying. Vincent Herbert was supposed 0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:33.239 to sign me, give me a deal and do all 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.520 type of stuff. It never panned out. I mean, show 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.840 love to Vince. I just seen Vince at Circlehouse recently 0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.960 and I moved back to LA and I was kind 0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:43.200 of like the start of like, all right, bet, I'm 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.279 gonna take this LA shit seriously again. You know what 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.400 I'm saying. I'm hit maker now I'm gonna do this. 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.920 I did my first publishing deal. I did my publishing 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:51.799 deal who I'm still in a publishing deal with with 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.920 Mike Carron at APG and boy, Mike lucked up on 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:56.840 this shit. Mike might be one of the best business 0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:58.400 man in the game. I think Mike signed me for 0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:01.960 thirteen thousand dollars. So some ship like that nigga back then. 0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:07.279 This is in twenty twelve, it's not later. I'm still 0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.279 signing my Karen on publishing, but be good and I 0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:14.479 got a joint benchure now and obviously right so here's 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:16.480 the other part, because we always talk about this, right 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:19.399 we want we did this show so it would yes, 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:20.279 we want to have a good time. 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.440 We won't go and crack jokes. We're gonna do what 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:22.759 we do. 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.000 But we also want this ship to be informative, right, 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.800 And I think what happens in this business is people 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.200 always look at things as. 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:35.960 Somebody fucked me out, and I know he does, and 0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:36.279 I do. 0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:40.759 I look at things as someone gave you an opportunity. 0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:43.440 Now if you don't want that, unless they put a 0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:47.040 gun in your head and made you sign something, right, 0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:48.800 if you signed it on your. 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:51.360 Own, you know what I'm saying, and. 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.879 On ecstasy like you, guys, But you know what I'm saying, 0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:02.080 But you can't sign deals on extity. You can ship 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:04.160 because everything is good on ecstasy. 0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.920 So you know what I'm saying, kid, Yeah, we can do. 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:13.240 Like you said later, you signed that, you signed that deal. 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:14.959 If we can find my man a lot, that would 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:15.400 be amazing. 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:16.759 Guys, somebody you know what I mean. 0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:21.480 You go ahead, right, but yeah, no, so you know 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:26.840 you signing that deal led to these other opportunities in 0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:29.279 life that you may have not got. You may have 0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:33.279 not gotten if you don't sign this thirteen thousand dollars deal. See, 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.480 but that's the business man, and you being a manager 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.560 and being rich, like writing our concept like until you 0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.319 make it out and get some money, they fucked you. 0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.440 That's all you think in the whole time. Yeah, and 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.800 if you never make it out, they always full exactly 0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.279 hindsight when you make it out your deal or whatever. 0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:51.239 He was like, man, well damn, if he didn't give 0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:53.440 me that opportunity, I might not have access to do 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:55.600 the studio and do the things that I did. 0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:58.760 And from there I'll never forget. 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.040 Damn it's getting to it a good spot or whatever, 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:03.680 because I love your story about the love and hip 0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.719 hop people that I did the show with on season one, 0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.040 about the monies and the dog food or whatever. So 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:12.759 long story short, Hazel e the girl Hazel, which we 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.960 all knew, you know what I'm saying from just being around. 0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.799 Yeah, of course she was. I believe it. 0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:19.920 Yeah, shout out the Echo and all them. I remember 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:21.600 they was moving heavily and doing that. 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.919 So Hazel, he just approached me like, man, I'm doing 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:26.160 love and hip hop. Fuck this shit. 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.080 We're gonna do a love and hip hop Hollywood. We're 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.480 gonna put everybody on it, all the people that So 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:30.839 I was. 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:32.000 Like, shut, I'm down. 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:33.680 Should I had nothing to lose, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:35.640 Like I was working with Puff at. 0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:38.840 That time to deal with Mike Heron. 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.560 I'm at apg On Kowanga every day, you know what 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:44.600 I'm saying, working making my rounds, doing all this other stuff. 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:46.640 So I was just like, fuck it, let's do it. 0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:50.360 From there, it came reality and then ship. At the time, 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:54.000 I didn't know what was going on. 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:55.560 So the lies. 0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:57.640 I gotta clear this up because I never really said 0:56:57.680 --> 0:57:01.160 all this shit. So we do love and hip hop. 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.759 I wasn't fucking Hazel we or dating Hazel Wee or 0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:04.200 nothing like that. 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:04.560 Whatever. 0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:06.920 She was just Hazel we Like everybody know Hazel from 0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:07.560 being Hollywood. 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:09.120 She's my nigga. Like we was really. 0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.560 Homies, always supposed together. 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:12.480 I'll get to that. 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:16.280 So from there we get to the show. And now 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:19.040 they got like the cast meeting or whatever. So now 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.920 a cast meet and I'm like, holy shit, these are 0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.080 all people I know. Then it was like, oh shit, 0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:27.800 my ex girlfriends here. So I don't mean no disrespect. 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:30.600 They probably gonna go viral with us, and I mean 0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:32.280 it's an off air. I'm not gonna say nothing both us. 0:57:32.520 --> 0:57:35.919 So Joy, who's Bow baby Mama or whatever. 0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:36.240 Future. 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.600 She was like one of my ex girlfriends from back 0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.560 in the day or whatever. So she was on the 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:43.600 show like they had casting her for the show or whatever. 0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:44.600 So I'm like, oh, it's lit. 0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:48.280 So me and her end up rekindling after we see 0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:50.720 each other at the meeting, then we now we were dating. 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:52.960 We back into the vibe, we back into the mix 0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.400 or whatever. So when we first started shooting the show, 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:58.400 it was me and Joy. Joy was my girlfriend, but 0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.200 as you know, a reality TV because joys on the show. 0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:03.760 She was on the show filming and the whole thing. 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.959 Nigga and I remember your name used to be thrown 0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:09.320 around the heaviest because they were like yo, Tank and 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.040 Zina is gonna do the show and this that and 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:12.360 the third this season one. 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:16.640 Like what they called us first, They called us to 0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:17.440 build the cast. 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:20.240 So we were the first. We were the first couple 0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:21.720 called to do loving Him. 0:58:23.440 --> 0:58:26.560 And we So so we put the playlist together, the 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:32.720 original playlist, and me and him got to talking, and 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:35.560 I got to talking with Atlantic and they were like, 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:41.320 we get it, but you don't need this right now. 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.480 This is a different kind of energy that and. 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.800 I was like, no, it's twenty fourteen too. 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:53.080 And so like it didn't happen right, And so for me, 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.320 you know, I was still doing still doing tank, you 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:58.080 know at the time, for my wife, we were trying 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:01.080 to build a platform for her, so it's gonna be 0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:05.200 perfect for her. So in me pulling out, you know, 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:09.160 they pulled the plug on her, but they took everything 0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:13.560 else that we had already built. 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:12.960 But that. 0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:19.840 TV and for that ultimately, I've never had the conversation 0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.800 either about that because you know, we we. 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:23.400 Don't usually go. 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:29.000 I'm glad you got him because because in that situation, 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:31.840 I just called it for me, I saw the future 0:59:32.520 --> 0:59:35.840 for him, right, because this at this point in that year, 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:40.680 we're rebuilding, right, and what I understand from what we 0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:43.640 were trying to build right where everybody's everybody's path is different, 0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:46.720 but from what we were trying to build, it didn't align. 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:51.560 It just didn't align to what we where we were going, right. 0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.120 And you know, and this is a part of having 0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:59.160 a trusting clients. The fact that a bag is in 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:03.560 front of him, extra famous, in front of me, extra 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:05.959 everything right, These is all positive things. 1:00:06.000 --> 1:00:09.920 And then you have me saying, nah, cham and I guarantee. 1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:14.280 I know I'm wouna carry myself on this shit. Listen, 1:00:14.560 --> 1:00:16.960 I know I know how to carry myself. 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:19.840 Right. We may know how to carry, but we know 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:21.080 how this show goes. 1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:24.360 And I've been in La for I don't know how 1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:29.120 many years they sent you. Man, they start to digging 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:34.640 and pulling up skeletons out of that La dirt, you 1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:36.200 never know where that's gonna go. 1:00:36.440 --> 1:00:39.040 So and Ray put me on right once I've seen 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:41.080 Ray was involved. And Ray started calling me or whatever. 1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:43.480 He's like, think it, it's gonna be ten seasons. We're 1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:44.320 gonna milk the ship. 1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:45.560 We back, we gonna. 1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:49.520 Sexy cannot part to him, I'm like, man, you know 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:51.760 you start thinking like so. 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:53.000 We do the show. 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:56.000 Me and Joy are like boyfriend and girlfriend on the show, 1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:59.800 and like they wanted me to do like some some 1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:02.800 shit that I wasn't really comfortable with, Like they wanted 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:04.960 us to be kissing and this that. But this is 1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:06.800 my first time being in front of the TV show camera, 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:08.439 so I didn't know what was going on or whatever. 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:11.000 It's like, in hindsight, I should have been tongue kissing 1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:13.040 with the people that they put in front of me. 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:16.640 Post that, you know, what I'm saying. So I was 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:20.240 being stiff on camera. She was being stiff on camera too. 1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:23.520 We both was very reserved about things. And I go 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:26.200 to Miami to work with Puff on this money making 1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:29.479 Mitch ovel. So I get down there, I'm working with him. 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:34.640 We vibing all this other shit. But they said the 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:36.080 way it set up, all the girls on the show 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:38.040 really didn't feel each other or whatever, like just off 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:39.640 of strength they create the beasts or whatever. 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:41.040 So Joy, I was. 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:44.880 Dating one girl, and then Masika was like from Chicago. 1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:46.280 She was like a best friend of me. She's like 1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:48.640 my drinking partner. We hang out, we kicking. We never 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:51.560 had no sexual relationship. We never crossed the line on nothing. 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:53.320 You know how, you might got a girl that's just 1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:55.240 like my nigga, Like yo, you you know how to 1:01:55.280 --> 1:01:58.080 have fun and pretty girls like being with you or 1:01:58.120 --> 1:01:58.640 being around you. 1:01:58.680 --> 1:01:59.680 So this is a good look for me. 1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:03.600 So I went to Masika's birthday and then I went 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:06.080 to Puffs to do it, to Miami to Puff's house 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:08.280 to do the stuff, and me and Joy fell out 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:10.800 in the midst of that, so we never spoke again. 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.360 The relationship was over. I get back. They picked me 1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:18.479 up from the airport, you know, because they don't. They didn't. 1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:20.480 They don't allow you dry your own transportation. They don't 1:02:20.480 --> 1:02:22.240 know you get your own uber. They come pick you 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:24.480 up in a fucking mini van with a bottle of 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:26.960 some rocking or whatever and just start feeding you liquor. 1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:30.840 So they and they tell me my dress code. They like, yo, bird, 1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:35.640 come in shorts, T shirt. So I'm thinking, I'm gonna 1:02:35.640 --> 1:02:38.400 go play basketball with like Soldier Boy and Little Fears 1:02:38.440 --> 1:02:41.520 and O Mariana some shit. They pull up the Hazel house, 1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:57.960 so I'm like, what the fuck? Don't like, Yeah, they 1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:00.480 bring you to the scene. So now I'm I'm just like, 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:02.360 oh shit, I ain't know what's going on. And I 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:04.320 love Hazel, no respect to Hazel. All lives more this 1:03:04.480 --> 1:03:08.080 eight years ago. So from we get in there and 1:03:08.120 --> 1:03:11.240 then they basically like, look we setting it up like 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:13.640 you had a long night out with Hazel. You guys 1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:15.240 spent the night together this. 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:15.640 That and time. 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:18.440 I'm like, what, So I even I even talked to 1:03:18.600 --> 1:03:20.880 Joy yet, I even I ain't even spoke to Joy. 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:23.360 I just had a girlfriend four days ago. I ain't 1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:25.080 I broke up with my girlfriend. 1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:25.960 I don't know nothing. 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:29.000 So now I'm like a yo, fam, y'all finna try 1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:31.160 and have me looking crazy like that, like I'm dating 1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:32.120 a girl on the show. 1:03:31.960 --> 1:03:33.040 And y'all drum I don't. 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:35.720 So I'm like, fuck this show, I ain't doing this 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:38.640 scene or whatever. So we're sitting outside shit and fucking 1:03:38.760 --> 1:03:42.000 Mona just appears out of nowhere like Khuella Deville. 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:49.280 Like, I'm bag you make Stevie Jib loving it. 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:06.000 Yo, I'm talking about that Haitian mother fucking so she like, 1:04:06.240 --> 1:04:09.160 you're my Stevie j Love and hip hop Hollywood. This 1:04:09.240 --> 1:04:11.480 show is gonna be based around your interactions. 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:11.920 It's good. 1:04:12.040 --> 1:04:14.200 I'm like, no, fuck that, y'all trying to have me 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:16.400 look like I'm two timing my girl on the show, 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:18.040 Like I ain't even spoke to her. They like, look, 1:04:18.240 --> 1:04:20.720 she like, look, nigga, we fire Joy. She's not on 1:04:20.720 --> 1:04:25.520 the show no more. I'm like what, Like, yeah, she's fired. 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:28.439 She's no longer on the show, and I can't call 1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:30.240 Shorty because we ain't on. 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:34.360 Yeah, So I'm like, you want me to go in 1:04:34.400 --> 1:04:37.320 there and be myself, like just be me, and they like, yeah, 1:04:37.600 --> 1:04:39.440 just go in there and do it however you feel 1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:40.160 just do it. 1:04:40.320 --> 1:04:43.000 So I go in there and they got her capped up. 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:44.600 You know what I'm saying. She's in a robe and 1:04:44.760 --> 1:04:48.160 lingerie neglige a or whatever, and like, granted, I'm gonna 1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:50.160 be clear on this because I know it's gonna go viral, 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:52.360 and you know, she might have something to say or 1:04:52.360 --> 1:04:55.000 a buddle about this. Whatever I had slept with Hazel 1:04:55.040 --> 1:04:58.560 previously or whatever. It wasn't my girlfriend. I already we 1:04:58.600 --> 1:05:00.480 had already slept together, but it was and like we 1:05:00.480 --> 1:05:03.720 were actively dating or whatever in our past from her 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:06.080 being a publicist and whatever back when I used to 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:08.360 live at the Archstone or some shit like that or whatever, 1:05:08.480 --> 1:05:11.760 like that was what it was. So We're getting the 1:05:11.840 --> 1:05:17.480 vibe and she's like putting it on like heavy, like 1:05:17.560 --> 1:05:19.880 last night was amazing, blah blah blah blah. And I'm 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:21.760 just looking like an asshole because I'm like, you ain't 1:05:21.760 --> 1:05:22.200 my bitch. 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:24.040 Hell no, like we ain't did this. 1:05:26.520 --> 1:05:29.000 And then ship I kind of dogged on her, you 1:05:29.040 --> 1:05:30.960 know what I'm saying, Like, and I left the scene 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:35.080 and they're like this is amazing, this is great. Yeah, 1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:38.320 And I'm like, what make good this girl crying inside 1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:41.400 throwing shit? Inside her career right now, like now, granted 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:44.520 speaking now that I know in hindsight, she might have 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:46.240 been putting on for the camera too. 1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:48.760 You know what I'm saying. 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:51.440 You know, because if you don't, you get mixed off 1:05:51.440 --> 1:05:53.120 the show. And this is what I didn't know, this 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:55.160 is what I found out later. If you're not in 1:05:55.280 --> 1:06:01.040 the episode, no, so you can shoot three and scenes 1:06:01.080 --> 1:06:03.160 if you won't, if your content not good and you 1:06:03.200 --> 1:06:05.680 don't make that screen, you're gonna get paid. So as 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:07.960 much as you went to Zara and march your little 1:06:07.960 --> 1:06:16.120 boys whatever, like shut off the Hey, you don't get 1:06:16.160 --> 1:06:18.520 your money back from Zara, bro, I'm about I was 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:19.440 right down. 1:06:19.520 --> 1:06:23.000 I was in Zara head to toe. I was Ora's 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:26.320 first man, kist. I was. I want to always pay 1:06:26.360 --> 1:06:29.360 for my first gass fight. But you won't catch me 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:32.240 and coach with no you hear that, bro? They wouldn't 1:06:32.240 --> 1:06:33.440 getting my Zara money back. 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:39.520 So it was important back there too, Like it's all 1:06:39.600 --> 1:06:42.320 Richard Mills and big Cha boat taking right now. 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:44.280 That was important to. 1:06:45.400 --> 1:06:48.480 Take only makes that color bring, right, everybody don't make 1:06:48.480 --> 1:06:49.600 that color. Brother. 1:06:51.720 --> 1:06:53.280 You gotta coordinate, you gotta coordinator. 1:06:53.520 --> 1:06:55.919 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a mush your belt 1:06:55.920 --> 1:07:02.360 on or nothing. So you're right, you know yo, that 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:06.440 shit Yo. So I'm doing all my czar and. 1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:11.360 Shit and uh doing that. We're shooting the show or whatever, 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:13.760 and it's not going the way I would like it 1:07:13.800 --> 1:07:16.760 to go, you know what I'm saying. But now, once 1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:18.800 you're in the show and you're in the matrix of 1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:20.720 the show, then you really become that. 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:21.360 You know what I'm saying. 1:07:21.440 --> 1:07:23.960 That's why I feel like I send my condolence is 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:26.800 not not not feel bad, but like I feel how 1:07:26.840 --> 1:07:29.880 every person that's ever been on that franchise whatever feels 1:07:30.040 --> 1:07:32.280 if they don't make it out of the franchise, you 1:07:32.280 --> 1:07:34.200 know what I'm saying, because it's like your life is 1:07:34.320 --> 1:07:38.640 encompassed with that shit. Now, so whatever we do that 1:07:38.960 --> 1:07:41.240 I do love and hip hop. Then like Mona like 1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:42.320 approaches me and is. 1:07:42.280 --> 1:07:47.520 Like, beg, would you be down to kiss Mesika on TV? 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:51.080 I'm like, yeah, y'all got me with this whole other 1:07:51.160 --> 1:07:55.480 story or whatever with somebody this two story later bad 1:07:55.520 --> 1:08:00.880 looking and shit, I kissed on TV, and shit it 1:08:00.960 --> 1:08:02.960 evolved into something else, you know what I'm saying. 1:08:03.000 --> 1:08:04.760 And now me and her was a thing on the TV. 1:08:04.800 --> 1:08:06.720 Show, so long, story shows a bunch of bullshit on 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:12.680 the TV show and it ended, and then they tried 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:15.360 to like murder me like Mona and them tried. 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:16.920 To like paint me in such a bad way. It 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:17.920 was just like damn. 1:08:17.960 --> 1:08:19.599 And like I was like, damn, I'm doing a TV 1:08:19.640 --> 1:08:22.160 show cause I'm working with puff or whatever. And then 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:24.639 missed me doing a TV show Like how you said 1:08:24.680 --> 1:08:27.600 good investments and niggas gave you opportunity. I was in 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:31.000 APG and I did a hook to a fucking popping 1:08:31.040 --> 1:08:33.000 oak beat and I named the song Nicki and hit 1:08:33.080 --> 1:08:35.360 mak and I'm like, man, Nicki Minaj is gonna work 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:37.519 with me. I'm about to work with Nicki Minaj. Watch 1:08:37.600 --> 1:08:40.439 this shit bruh. And then I go see sounds at 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:44.240 Glenwood Studio randomly he was working with Esther Dean and 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:47.280 her artists back in the day. And then my brother 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:48.240 Doc was like, man. 1:08:48.080 --> 1:08:50.120 I just seen Nicki Minaj. She in the same studio. 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:52.639 I did the song like a day before. I'm like, what, 1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:56.280 go tell all? I'm in him to tell her that 1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:58.559 brought me in the studio to meet Nicki Minaj. I 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:00.799 pressed play on a whole bunch of shit. Like literally, 1:09:00.800 --> 1:09:03.120 she took me under her wing like this, like and 1:09:03.280 --> 1:09:03.840 never let me. 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:07.200 Seeing it from the outside, I'm like. 1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:11.040 Yeah, like, what the fuck is young bird I'm talking about? 1:09:11.040 --> 1:09:13.840 She had me like this and was just like, my 1:09:13.920 --> 1:09:17.120 studio is your studio. If I'm not here, take over, 1:09:17.280 --> 1:09:19.080 do what it is. So you know, I'm flossing it 1:09:19.080 --> 1:09:22.320 out to the max nigga. I'm like, shout out to Nikki, 1:09:22.680 --> 1:09:25.800 shout and shout out to people who give opportunities. 1:09:25.880 --> 1:09:29.040 Nigga was because everybody don't cause niggas wasn't. But you 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:33.040 what's the crazy? I never said this story too, bro. 1:09:33.920 --> 1:09:36.479 Well, after I played my songs for Nikki or whatever. 1:09:36.320 --> 1:09:38.040 And she was feeling me and like she was like, yo, 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:38.559 this hard. 1:09:38.960 --> 1:09:41.960 She was like this before like she was. She was like, 1:09:42.240 --> 1:09:44.360 I ain't gonna lie. I've been fucking with you since 1:09:44.520 --> 1:09:47.479 this and double clicked on her laptop and took the 1:09:47.479 --> 1:09:48.160 aux nigga and. 1:09:48.120 --> 1:09:52.040 It was give me the business. I was like, oh shit, 1:09:53.840 --> 1:09:54.599 but it fucked. 1:09:54.400 --> 1:09:56.479 Me up because I was famous before Nicki Mina, so 1:09:56.840 --> 1:09:58.920 like at that point, like you don't even think. 1:09:58.760 --> 1:10:00.519 About that, you know what I'm saying. It didn't even 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:00.960 hit me. 1:10:00.960 --> 1:10:03.080 All together, Like damn, I was really young berg and 1:10:03.160 --> 1:10:06.719 had that song before Nicki blew up, so that shit 1:10:06.920 --> 1:10:08.640 was like crazy, and I'm like, damn, I'm doing love 1:10:08.680 --> 1:10:09.080 and hip hop. 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:11.200 I can say Nicki Minaj like, so they was. 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:13.880 Nicky was like, oh yeah, you drop my name like 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:16.360 we were doing great work. I probably did like five 1:10:16.400 --> 1:10:17.920 records on an album or something like that. But I 1:10:17.920 --> 1:10:19.960 was there through the whole process, through the pink print 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:24.960 and shit. From there, I leave the show and it's 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:30.720 dark again. I'm like, damn, Like I got nick I 1:10:30.800 --> 1:10:34.240 got my shit going on, but damn, so I got 1:10:34.240 --> 1:10:37.200 this big ass house in Chatsworth, like and I kind 1:10:37.200 --> 1:10:39.439 of like psyched myself out. Like I had a little money, 1:10:39.479 --> 1:10:40.920 you know what I'm saying. I ain't had no big 1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:42.920 money like I was. I had like one hundred grand, 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:45.920 you know what I'm saying, maybe one fifty, but motherfucking 1:10:46.240 --> 1:10:48.400 I had. My dad helped me get this crib, and 1:10:48.400 --> 1:10:49.880 I'm like, Yo'm gonna use this crib. 1:10:50.240 --> 1:10:52.360 It's motivation because I gotta pay. 1:10:52.160 --> 1:10:54.519 These motherfucking bills, so I gotta work my ass off. 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:56.240 I gotta get these placements, and I use it in 1:10:56.360 --> 1:11:00.720 motivation and that time, we was in my man. I 1:11:00.760 --> 1:11:02.840 had a bunch of boyshit furniture. I was living like 1:11:02.840 --> 1:11:05.920 a nigga, just girls everywhere. Seven thousand square for a house, 1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:09.280 just the bedrooms furnished for the most part in TV's 1:11:09.360 --> 1:11:11.799 and a couch, but it wasn't fully decked. 1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:12.680 Ore like how it was supposed to be. 1:11:13.080 --> 1:11:16.640 And I created a makeshift studio in my basement and 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:20.240 I had my engineer being with me and he's now 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:21.600 I don't know who engineering. 1:11:21.320 --> 1:11:22.200 Now, but that was my guy. 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:27.160 And Jeremiah came to my crib and he was like, bro, 1:11:27.840 --> 1:11:28.360 let's work. 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:30.479 So we started working. 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:32.799 We in our vibe or whatever we do, like eight songs, 1:11:32.960 --> 1:11:34.720 and I had a girl with me and he had 1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:35.840 some company with him too. 1:11:36.120 --> 1:11:38.840 So now it's winding. Now they're like two thirty. 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:42.200 I'm like, hey, faml uh shit, let's wrap this shit up, 1:11:42.200 --> 1:11:43.639 you know what I'm saying, Ready to take it upstairs. 1:11:43.680 --> 1:11:45.000 He's like, no, I got one more in me. 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:47.920 I'm like, man, come on, bruh, man, I ain't trying 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:49.880 to do it like bro, trust me, I got one more. 1:11:50.800 --> 1:11:53.200 He win the booth. I put the beat up. 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:55.680 He went the booth and said letstny took an l 1:11:55.760 --> 1:11:58.680 butson that I bounced back, wake up in morning, man, 1:11:58.720 --> 1:12:02.160 and now I couched. I was like, okay, it's hard. 1:12:02.479 --> 1:12:04.920 I went, I took the ship to Big Sean and 1:12:04.960 --> 1:12:09.800 it became Big Sean bounced back, and Big Sean was like, man, 1:12:09.840 --> 1:12:12.559 you know, I love this record, like shout to Metro Booming. 1:12:12.840 --> 1:12:15.519 He co produced on record Shouts to Smash David. So 1:12:15.760 --> 1:12:17.280 he's like, I love this record. You know, I don't 1:12:17.320 --> 1:12:19.160 know what it's gonna be, but man, maybe we should 1:12:19.160 --> 1:12:20.400 just throw it out there and just see it. 1:12:20.880 --> 1:12:21.920 Like, I don't give a fuck. Nigga. 1:12:22.560 --> 1:12:25.920 He like, hey, bro, do you have a tag or 1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:28.320 anything you want to put on the song? I'm like, 1:12:28.400 --> 1:12:32.519 after all these people been taking it off, taking it off. 1:12:32.520 --> 1:12:34.479 He asked you about you at his house. He like, 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:35.160 you got a tag? 1:12:35.240 --> 1:12:35.400 Bro? 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:39.200 Like yeah, I went and said my tag. Nigga. 1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:42.240 That ship you put that ship out of shit took 1:12:42.280 --> 1:12:45.280 off like a rocket, nigga. Shit like seven times platinum now, Nigga. 1:12:45.479 --> 1:12:48.240 His biggest performing song stent by himself as a solo 1:12:48.320 --> 1:12:50.320 artist on High one hundred That shit and like number two. 1:12:50.640 --> 1:12:53.080 She had the super Bowl commercials. The ship had everything 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:58.040 hell yeah, ship and that ship that and that was 1:12:58.040 --> 1:12:59.920 the start of it, and I'm like, oh, we rolling 1:13:00.479 --> 1:13:04.160 then from there. Jay Grant, who works for RCA, super influential. 1:13:04.479 --> 1:13:05.719 He was like one of the an. 1:13:05.640 --> 1:13:07.759 Rs that was really like an an R, real nigga 1:13:07.760 --> 1:13:09.680 to us, Like boy, he would rent out Paramount for 1:13:09.800 --> 1:13:13.280 us and fucking buys all the catsuya we wanted with 1:13:13.320 --> 1:13:15.960 the label credit card nigga and fucking. 1:13:15.800 --> 1:13:20.240 Use use that, motherfucknigg all the liquor. 1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:23.960 And then that's how Chris Brown Party happens, and then 1:13:24.040 --> 1:13:26.120 all this other stuff and now I'm running them up, 1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:29.000 getting a couple of placements, and Ryan Press has always 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:30.720 been like a mentor to me, and I'm like, man, 1:13:30.760 --> 1:13:33.320 I ain't gonna lie. I went on Breakfast Club after 1:13:33.360 --> 1:13:35.360 Big Sean bounced back and Chris Brown. 1:13:35.120 --> 1:13:36.360 Party, and I had a bunch of players. 1:13:36.360 --> 1:13:38.759 I probably had like fifty placements now, so I'm popping 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:42.559 my ship on Breakfast Club and I'm like, man, but 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:44.840 y'all really don't realize I'm really about to be one 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:45.720 of the biggest. 1:13:45.360 --> 1:13:47.400 Executives in this game. Nigga nigga. 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:50.439 Motherfucking these labels offering me jobs right now to be 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:55.080 an RS line, like a motherfucker like that right now, Nigga, 1:13:55.080 --> 1:13:56.599 I'm about to be one of the biggest an rs 1:13:56.600 --> 1:13:57.080 in this game. 1:13:57.160 --> 1:14:01.040 Watch this shit. Lied from there. Ryan was like, I've 1:14:01.080 --> 1:14:02.720 had a conversation. Ryan. He like, you want to meet 1:14:02.720 --> 1:14:07.400 Craig and Julie? Like yeah, ship, hell yeah, nigga. After 1:14:07.439 --> 1:14:09.599 I seen you at the b and my awards. Damn 1:14:09.600 --> 1:14:10.719 there around that time. 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:12.800 They took me to meet Craig and Julie and I 1:14:12.840 --> 1:14:14.519 went in there and told the speech and which I 1:14:14.520 --> 1:14:17.080 still stand on to this day. There's nobody that's gonna 1:14:17.080 --> 1:14:19.599 be influential. I'm really cut from that cloth. I'm cut 1:14:19.600 --> 1:14:22.960 from that IRV Gotti. I'm cut from that motherfucking jay Z. 1:14:23.080 --> 1:14:26.439 I'm cut from that the big producer that works with 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:28.600 the artist cloth. You can't tell me nothing about I 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:30.800 lived it. He in Mexican, gave me a dog. You 1:14:30.840 --> 1:14:33.080 remember seeing me in your office, Julie, right, You remember 1:14:33.240 --> 1:14:35.080 I was so on and then they made me the 1:14:35.160 --> 1:14:38.760 vice president and out Atlantic Records, and then that's when 1:14:38.800 --> 1:14:40.400 it started getting getting real interested. 1:14:40.439 --> 1:14:41.680 That's when it started cracking. 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:43.760 Out that I don't that for me, that wasn't the 1:14:43.800 --> 1:14:47.360 most impressive part right, because I know you can. 1:14:47.439 --> 1:14:49.679 I know you can make that. Actually give me yeah. 1:14:51.680 --> 1:14:53.439 Talking about it, but you you deserved it. 1:14:53.520 --> 1:14:54.640 In fact, you wouldn't get that. 1:14:55.920 --> 1:15:00.719 My question is like guys locking to it was zone 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:05.559 and going to run and find a thing that they 1:15:05.560 --> 1:15:10.519 are able to milk for a very long time. And 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:16.840 you found a niche in grabbing old records and reproducing 1:15:16.880 --> 1:15:21.200 them and making them brand new smash records. 1:15:21.760 --> 1:15:24.280 You know what I'm saying. It's a very important component 1:15:24.320 --> 1:15:24.519 to that. 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:29.360 This guy worked directly with the guy who did it before. 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:33.200 Yeah, Puff Puff Daddy, the king of what? 1:15:33.320 --> 1:15:37.160 So what made you say this is gonna be my 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:39.320 formula and nobody's gonna beat me? 1:15:39.640 --> 1:15:40.120 You know what? 1:15:40.200 --> 1:15:41.960 It was a moment for me. I ain't never gonna 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:47.040 forget this shit. It fucked me up because Nelly had 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:50.360 hot in here, right and it was going crazy. 1:15:50.439 --> 1:15:52.000 I'm like, damn this shit crazy. 1:15:52.040 --> 1:15:54.519 I'm like for real crazy like and I've been a 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:56.680 student of the game. I know all the producers, I 1:15:56.800 --> 1:15:59.120 know Puff You know what I'm saying, Like, damn niggas 1:15:59.160 --> 1:16:01.800 really taking this sound and bringing it back and doing 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:03.920 all this other shit or whatever and blah blah blah, 1:16:04.439 --> 1:16:06.439 Once I found out that Nelly Hot in Here was 1:16:06.520 --> 1:16:10.960 Chuck Berry, Chuck Chuck Brown, Yeah, shout out to the 1:16:11.000 --> 1:16:16.120 DMV bro, I was like, oh fuck, no, hell no, 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:18.519 I'm bringing back the first time you hear you think 1:16:18.640 --> 1:16:21.280 is original. You could you could put ten people in 1:16:21.320 --> 1:16:23.519 his room right now and say play Nelly hid in 1:16:23.600 --> 1:16:25.439 Here and say what is that song sample from? 1:16:25.479 --> 1:16:28.519 And I guarantee they won't unless they from there. Yeah. 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:31.000 So then I was like, oh shit. 1:16:31.680 --> 1:16:34.599 I started looking at like for real whole little catalog 1:16:34.680 --> 1:16:37.880 and I'm like, damn, he's just making original beats and 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:40.439 just some of the beats on original either too. Like 1:16:40.520 --> 1:16:43.679 he's taking this ship like homeboy I came to party. 1:16:43.840 --> 1:16:44.679 That's a splip. 1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:49.040 Even the nigga with his manager listen and label the 1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:51.439 jam Steel Boss and showing your rocks. 1:16:51.520 --> 1:16:58.320 Nigga, that's an old rap record. Wow. Yeah I didn't know, yes, Bro. 1:16:58.439 --> 1:17:00.960 So I'm like, oh, ship, this nigga's been doing it. 1:17:01.000 --> 1:17:01.800 But he finessed it. 1:17:01.840 --> 1:17:03.840 His way, and I'm like, oh, that's the puff way. 1:17:04.600 --> 1:17:06.200 And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do it my way 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:08.040 and just do everything that I grew up on one 1:17:08.080 --> 1:17:09.680 O six and park on or whatever and all the 1:17:09.720 --> 1:17:10.400 records that I love. 1:17:10.439 --> 1:17:12.080 I'm just gonna flip on my on my own. How 1:17:12.120 --> 1:17:15.320 did you know it was time? Right? Because like because 1:17:15.320 --> 1:17:16.120 it's a sweet spot. 1:17:16.160 --> 1:17:18.000 There used to be a thing where like a certain 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:21.040 amount of time used to have to elapse on a 1:17:21.120 --> 1:17:23.320 record for it to be a classic or even a 1:17:23.320 --> 1:17:24.479 certain amount of success. 1:17:26.920 --> 1:17:29.360 You're not. You're not flipping all platinum records. 1:17:29.880 --> 1:17:33.120 You flipping just whatever got that essence to it, that 1:17:33.200 --> 1:17:36.400 you with the feel to it. 1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:39.920 That's what I'm humbly. I want to say this because 1:17:39.920 --> 1:17:42.080 I didn't know at first, but it was just like, man, 1:17:42.240 --> 1:17:46.840 like a producer and a top tier producer. I was like, man, 1:17:46.880 --> 1:17:48.600 it's about the work, it's about all this, which it 1:17:48.680 --> 1:17:51.599 really is, but they really paying you for your taste level, 1:17:52.280 --> 1:17:54.880 for the taste of music what you got. Expound on 1:17:54.960 --> 1:18:00.400 that because as a producer, and this is this is 1:18:00.400 --> 1:18:01.440 something that gets. 1:18:01.479 --> 1:18:05.200 Very very cloudy in this business. The producer. 1:18:06.200 --> 1:18:11.720 Right, we have beat makers, we have producers, we have 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:17.719 vocal producers, we have finishers, right, we have all these 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:18.800 different things that. 1:18:18.880 --> 1:18:23.040 Can tank to do it all. I mean, yeah, he 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:25.040 would he would pretty much form the record. It would 1:18:25.040 --> 1:18:26.240 pretty much say that I ain't. 1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:29.840 Helped him with his life, but you know that is 1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:31.639 what it is, because I love the nigga. Man. 1:18:31.720 --> 1:18:33.400 You know what I mean kids is my guy kids, 1:18:33.400 --> 1:18:36.040 my kids, this guy kids. Like you know, I'm sitting 1:18:36.080 --> 1:18:38.680 there watching the nigga say, man, ain't getting checked my 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:43.040 man by myself? Right. 1:18:43.080 --> 1:18:46.759 But I asked you this because you're you're you're fully 1:18:46.800 --> 1:18:48.639 immersed in it, right, And. 1:18:50.360 --> 1:18:53.559 I know you don't champion yourself as like I make beats. 1:18:53.800 --> 1:18:56.000 You're not that guy. That's not who you say you are. 1:18:57.120 --> 1:18:59.400 I remember, man, I was dating a girl years ago, 1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:02.800 and and and I kind of moved into the you know, 1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:05.320 the beat making side of like buying the NPC into her. 1:19:05.520 --> 1:19:09.200 And she was like, and I had I had a condo. 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:12.720 I bought my first condo. Man, you know what too 1:19:12.720 --> 1:19:14.280 big with you know, so you can hear everything in 1:19:14.280 --> 1:19:14.879 that motherfucker. 1:19:15.240 --> 1:19:16.479 And I would have the headphones on it. 1:19:16.520 --> 1:19:18.280 She would wake up in the morning be like, so, 1:19:18.320 --> 1:19:21.439 how did like the BENK thing thinking go last night? Oh? 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:28.320 Sh like the who right? But that's all that's all 1:19:28.400 --> 1:19:29.479 she could hear though. 1:19:29.800 --> 1:19:37.120 It was like, right, right, whatever, right, But I'm asking 1:19:37.400 --> 1:19:42.680 that though, how do you as a producer, how do 1:19:42.800 --> 1:19:46.200 you explain it to you know, and how do you 1:19:46.240 --> 1:19:48.960 separate or do you even separate even getting that conversation 1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:52.519 because a lot of youngins is like I produced it. 1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:54.720 I'm gonna had a conversation for real, for because this 1:19:54.800 --> 1:19:57.120 is a good platform and it's all with creators here 1:19:57.160 --> 1:20:00.599 talking about it. So look, everybody produces an my own ways, 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:03.519 it's not really many. It's so many ways it can happen. 1:20:03.560 --> 1:20:05.960 Now I can speak on my process and my situation. 1:20:06.520 --> 1:20:10.800 So every flip that y'all hear, for the most part, 1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:16.519 is me like, yo, yo, Paul, replay this or whatever. Yo, 1:20:16.600 --> 1:20:18.200 I love this record. Let's do it like this, but 1:20:18.240 --> 1:20:20.439 instead of it, let's flip it. Let's add a pre 1:20:20.600 --> 1:20:23.120 hook and change and an added and change the key 1:20:23.240 --> 1:20:24.800 on the pre hook or whatever, and come back to. 1:20:24.800 --> 1:20:26.479 The shit and do the music for me. Blah blah blah. 1:20:26.479 --> 1:20:28.920 They do the music, send it back to me. I 1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:31.800 love the music because everything he does is firing flames it. 1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:34.920 Then from there I'll be like, shit, who drums work 1:20:34.960 --> 1:20:35.160 on this? 1:20:35.200 --> 1:20:35.400 Shit? 1:20:35.479 --> 1:20:37.920 Oh shit cardiac? I think it's got a hip hop feels, 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:39.760 got the ball. I think it's just be crazy or 1:20:40.240 --> 1:20:42.360 any other co producers I work with, and then from 1:20:42.439 --> 1:20:46.120 there they get me to beat. I write the song 1:20:46.160 --> 1:20:47.800 with the person I want to write the song with. 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:52.480 I find the artist to get the song too. I 1:20:52.479 --> 1:20:54.360 push the artist to do the song, get. 1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:54.599 Through the song. 1:20:54.680 --> 1:20:56.599 Then I take the record to Jason Joshua and mix 1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:57.960 it and that's the end of it. 1:20:58.200 --> 1:20:59.479 Now. If it's something else. 1:20:59.320 --> 1:21:05.280 Like I've also an amazing mixer, is very important. Absolutely, 1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:08.280 you gotta have that shout out to Ruben. You know 1:21:08.280 --> 1:21:10.559 what I mean, Ruben's in there. You see somewhere around here, 1:21:11.680 --> 1:21:13.759 you know what I mean. He's grounding right now. Okay, 1:21:14.560 --> 1:21:18.240 but no, but yeah, like please please finish. 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:18.720 That's my bad. 1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:20.840 But I wanted to shout these guys out because they're 1:21:21.200 --> 1:21:25.519 they're not always spoken. It's my engineer and Leuess too. 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:29.600 So that's one way. Another way is I just have 1:21:29.680 --> 1:21:31.760 creative energy with people. They might send me a beat 1:21:31.760 --> 1:21:33.880 pack or whatever, and then I'll go and I'll write 1:21:33.920 --> 1:21:36.120 the song and I'll rearrange your beat or whatever and 1:21:36.200 --> 1:21:38.920 take this and your outro that you had is really 1:21:38.960 --> 1:21:41.479 the intro and it's really the prehoting now and just 1:21:41.560 --> 1:21:44.040 put together a puzzle like that. So I think that 1:21:44.360 --> 1:21:46.679 real producing to me is. 1:21:48.560 --> 1:21:51.200 You finish it. You start to finish, you in it, 1:21:51.280 --> 1:21:52.480 from the beginning. 1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:55.000 Of the concept to whether it's a beat that's sent 1:21:55.040 --> 1:21:56.639 to you and you like, all right, bet well maybe 1:21:56.640 --> 1:21:59.040 can we change this around? And you get with Tank 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:00.680 and you give me j Balleen time you write the 1:22:00.760 --> 1:22:02.920 hit record and then Tank wants it to be hit 1:22:02.960 --> 1:22:05.160 single and not cool. If not, then we give it 1:22:05.160 --> 1:22:06.800 to somebody else. And I got to get them to 1:22:06.840 --> 1:22:08.640 do it. And I mean should I did it with 1:22:08.640 --> 1:22:11.760 Tank on which I'm mad Atlantic man, a dirty remix man. 1:22:11.800 --> 1:22:13.679 That shit was super fire man golly. 1:22:13.880 --> 1:22:16.519 But we did it together. We worked on several records together, 1:22:16.560 --> 1:22:20.960 so we know the vibe. Yeah. I think it's it's. 1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:23.920 Good understanding and going in because I think a lot 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:26.439 of people kind of get lost when it's like a 1:22:26.520 --> 1:22:28.160 kid that does the beat was like, well, I'm the 1:22:28.200 --> 1:22:32.040 producer on the song, and then you're like, well, that's 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:33.680 a part of it, you know what I mean. 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:36.040 Also, when you send it to finishers. 1:22:36.960 --> 1:22:40.040 Listen, when you send the beat that is nothing and 1:22:40.080 --> 1:22:44.360 then it becomes something because of everything else that's done 1:22:44.439 --> 1:22:46.640 to it, and even placing for that matter, because you 1:22:46.720 --> 1:22:50.400 go to extra step further. You're not just making a song. 1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:53.640 You're like, I know exactly where this song should be. 1:22:54.200 --> 1:22:55.040 Then you got to sell it. 1:22:55.600 --> 1:23:00.240 You're you're doing You're actually managing now just right. 1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:03.400 Selling records to artists is very tough, very tough, very 1:23:03.840 --> 1:23:04.320 very tough. 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:05.800 There's an art to it, yeah, bro. 1:23:07.840 --> 1:23:11.360 The crazy thing is that I fight myself daily about 1:23:11.400 --> 1:23:15.000 this because everything we said is true. But it's just 1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:16.720 a lot of captive this ship, and it's a lot 1:23:16.720 --> 1:23:19.080 of ego shit or whatever. That's also in social too. 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:22.240 If I dress like Ghazi every day or like Craig 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:25.799 Calvin every day nigga and wore the same outfit, no jewelry, 1:23:26.240 --> 1:23:30.880 no nothing or whatever, and I wasn't out here and me, 1:23:31.680 --> 1:23:34.200 then they wouldn't a coprin't. 1:23:34.200 --> 1:23:35.320 You wouldn't hear no flack. 1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:38.000 It would be the most thing because people want the 1:23:38.080 --> 1:23:39.120 look of it, you. 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:39.920 Know what I'm saying now. 1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:42.439 Being a producer is a thing, like so the look 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:45.559 of it. But like I run into situations where it's 1:23:45.600 --> 1:23:48.960 like damn it be like people would be jealous of 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:52.160 your own success and the blessing that God got on 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:55.400 you and overlook the fact the door that you opening 1:23:55.479 --> 1:24:00.559 up for them, so you can't change, you know what 1:24:00.560 --> 1:24:02.680 I'm saying, be cause it's like I've been through that 1:24:02.840 --> 1:24:06.400 so many times, not even on a producer a co 1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:08.120 producer level, just anybody. 1:24:08.160 --> 1:24:09.000 Man, you know what I'm saying. 1:24:09.000 --> 1:24:10.800 It could be a management it could be you know 1:24:10.840 --> 1:24:13.160 what I'm saying, people you're doing like niggas will be 1:24:14.040 --> 1:24:16.360 and everybody was so fucked up about being in a 1:24:16.360 --> 1:24:18.360 position which they don't tell you for you in position 1:24:18.439 --> 1:24:22.240 that everybody is gonna tell you or what they have 1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:24.800 an opinion of, skewed thought of. If it was me, 1:24:25.200 --> 1:24:30.519 I would have did this and well nigga waiting tills you, Yeah, yeah, 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:33.280 especially if a nigga feeding you and got you out 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:35.720 like Nigga. Like let's say, not even me. If I 1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:38.519 was a guy that was a co producer or somebody 1:24:38.560 --> 1:24:40.880 that just made beat some program beats all day, like 1:24:41.160 --> 1:24:43.760 or in a house with my girl twenty four seven, 1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:47.519 and it's somebody that's just like making hit hit after hit, 1:24:47.840 --> 1:24:49.960 I wouldn't It wouldn't be no way you could talk 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:53.559 bad about anything about that man, Like hell no, and 1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:57.599 I'm big on I'm not like how it was back 1:24:57.600 --> 1:24:59.400 in the day, like Bro, I'll let you know, I 1:24:59.400 --> 1:25:02.800 ain't do that. He programmed that beat, I did this that, 1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:05.840 and everybody gets they same credit, you know what I'm saying. 1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:10.000 So it don't really like it don't rebind me. But 1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:12.120 it's like you don't come across them issues and start 1:25:12.160 --> 1:25:14.360 feeling like that to winning, Like I ain't gonna lie 1:25:14.400 --> 1:25:16.519 Like before I came into y'all podcast, like I got 1:25:16.640 --> 1:25:19.479 placked like this big that just came to my crib, bro, 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:20.960 I'm over one hundred million records. 1:25:21.000 --> 1:25:21.679 Sol Bron. 1:25:27.880 --> 1:25:31.880 Toasted, going from the my fucking concentration camp man for 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:33.760 real for nine months. 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:35.479 To have an over one hundred million records. 1:25:35.479 --> 1:25:38.439 So no, cap still look at sitting at my penthouse 1:25:38.520 --> 1:25:40.960 right now, I got to take it. You heard the pinhouse, 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:43.120 you heard it, you heard it. Not the club, not 1:25:43.160 --> 1:25:43.880 the club, but the house. 1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:49.880 What's what's the goal right now? Right now? For me? 1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:53.600 Like it seemed like the when I first started on 1:25:53.640 --> 1:25:55.519 this hit maker journey, he was like, man, I want 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:56.960 to prove so many yggs wrong. 1:25:57.000 --> 1:26:00.680 These nigga shit it on me. Yeah, I had that. 1:26:01.880 --> 1:26:02.479 You know what's fun? 1:26:03.560 --> 1:26:05.120 I don't even you know, because we've had so many 1:26:05.120 --> 1:26:06.960 different moments that we've run across each other and this 1:26:07.000 --> 1:26:10.479 ship we've been in there for many moons. There was 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:15.960 a moment in Las Vegas at the at the Palms Hotel. 1:26:15.680 --> 1:26:18.639 Studios and we were all there. 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:22.840 It was us three ENTI dollar sign action and we 1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:26.040 were talking and this was the This was like the 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:28.360 first time that I had that. Me and you had 1:26:28.400 --> 1:26:30.320 kind of sat down and I was really like, I 1:26:30.360 --> 1:26:31.679 was like, man, I really like this dude. 1:26:31.680 --> 1:26:33.679 Man. He's a really really good dude. 1:26:33.720 --> 1:26:35.960 And I remember having a conversation with Tank after I 1:26:36.000 --> 1:26:43.360 said I hope that his revenge don't get the best 1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:43.560 of it. 1:26:44.160 --> 1:26:45.439 I literally said that to him. 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:48.519 I was like that nigga is so cool because you 1:26:48.520 --> 1:26:50.760 get all the extra shit. We run into each other 1:26:50.800 --> 1:26:52.760 and you see a nigga and you and you're like, oh, 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:55.280 I think he kind of liked this, so I think, whatever. 1:26:54.960 --> 1:26:55.840 This may be. 1:26:56.280 --> 1:26:59.080 But that that session where we were sitting in there, 1:26:59.120 --> 1:27:01.320 I'm like, really like this dude, man, and he's super 1:27:01.360 --> 1:27:07.679 super talented. But in conversation, you were vengeful. Hell yeah, 1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:11.040 you were vengeful. And I remember I remember talenting. I'm like, bro, 1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:13.120 I hoped it. I hope the revenge don't get the 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:15.479 best of it, man, because that dude really is talented. 1:27:15.479 --> 1:27:16.320 Bro, I had a. 1:27:16.280 --> 1:27:17.920 Chip, cause you gotta think of all the shit that 1:27:17.960 --> 1:27:19.920 I went through in the past or whatever it was. 1:27:20.120 --> 1:27:21.040 It wasn't because of me. 1:27:21.080 --> 1:27:23.160 It was because I was putting myself around bad people, 1:27:23.200 --> 1:27:24.680 you know what I'm saying. Like, so I took a 1:27:24.680 --> 1:27:27.040 lot of l's now on the strength of me personally 1:27:27.080 --> 1:27:28.760 being a person that was supposed to have that. Hell, 1:27:28.840 --> 1:27:31.559 but I'm the the I'm the famous guy, so you 1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:34.519 you hold that ill. So at that point, man, I 1:27:34.600 --> 1:27:37.360 was just like, like in my mind, I was thinking like, man, 1:27:37.400 --> 1:27:39.639 fuck these nigas, they gonna see I'm the step on either. 1:27:40.080 --> 1:27:44.080 But now my whole vibe. Bro, this shit is a testimony. Bro, Like, 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:46.120 I don't even want to do nothing. It's not about 1:27:46.160 --> 1:27:48.479 holding my own dick and being like I'm the nigga 1:27:48.520 --> 1:27:50.559 and I'm hit making board. I ain't on none of 1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:53.160 that shit. I'm still young berg nigga. I still meet 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:56.160 people every day. Give them opportunity, nigga. If you it 1:27:56.200 --> 1:27:58.719 don't matter, I don't care if you black, blue brown nigga. 1:27:58.800 --> 1:28:00.800 If you talented and you can it flex up and 1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:02.880 you could work with me in the studio. Every day 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:04.280 I'm touching somebody else. 1:28:04.479 --> 1:28:05.960 I'm giving people opportunities. 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:08.160 All my co writers that I work with, I'm putting 1:28:08.160 --> 1:28:09.599 them on my singles on my album. 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:11.800 It's not about me no more. I'm good. 1:28:12.320 --> 1:28:15.320 It's about the inspiring the next person. Maybe I could 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:17.120 put the ball in somebody else's hand, and when I 1:28:17.160 --> 1:28:19.400 decided to stop dribbling, that motherfucker that could pull me 1:28:19.520 --> 1:28:21.320 up circle of success type shit. 1:28:21.400 --> 1:28:22.120 You know what I'm saying. 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:26.080 And on a big scale, anybody that's living that's seeing 1:28:26.160 --> 1:28:29.080 my journey, man, they know that this shit is so 1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:32.000 possible as long as you work hard and keep God first. 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:35.759 Bro. Yes, bro, Like it's. 1:28:35.680 --> 1:28:38.439 Niggas that dissed me and songs that that that pay 1:28:38.520 --> 1:28:53.360 me top dollars for songs now, but not even like 1:28:53.520 --> 1:28:56.360 this because like whatever happened, it was a relevant punch 1:28:56.479 --> 1:28:57.920 line in But the way you're gonna stop it and 1:28:57.960 --> 1:28:59.640 not get your money and go work and do all 1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:01.479 this other shit because the nigga felt him my way, 1:29:01.680 --> 1:29:05.960 you have to strip all that ship down, like man, 1:29:06.160 --> 1:29:08.880 and just be like who's next, Like look at this, 1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:11.559 look at what God blessed me with. Let's not even 1:29:12.840 --> 1:29:15.920 focus on Yeah, let's not focus on no bullshit or whatever. 1:29:15.960 --> 1:29:16.840 Man, Let's be a light. 1:29:17.080 --> 1:29:20.400 Let somebody be inspired by you, let somebody feel like Man, I. 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:23.320 Could take it there. Yeah, because it's possible. 1:29:23.720 --> 1:29:25.600 And and I say that to the circle all the 1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:31.919 way back, like the course. Right, we all have a story, 1:29:32.800 --> 1:29:38.360 we all have a gang of l's, but it was 1:29:38.479 --> 1:29:40.920 all part for the course. And we can do one 1:29:40.960 --> 1:29:45.719 of two things, right. We can repeat the cycle, or 1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:50.320 we can decide to do better and start a different cycle. 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:53.120 And that's what me and this guy is committed to 1:29:53.760 --> 1:29:57.800 and loving hearing you say that you've committed to that 1:29:57.880 --> 1:30:00.920 same thing, because that's what's gonna make the difference in 1:30:00.960 --> 1:30:05.160 our culture, not continuing to repeat the cycle where we 1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:08.160 continue to hold each other down and always want to 1:30:08.200 --> 1:30:11.160 stand on top of each other. Man, I can stand, man, 1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:12.960 I can stand right next to my brother man and 1:30:13.600 --> 1:30:17.920 support his shine dance dance when he succeeds. You know 1:30:17.960 --> 1:30:21.120 what I'm saying, shout him out, like, man, go get it. Man, Listen, 1:30:21.160 --> 1:30:24.280 if we all came, if we're not fighting to pay 1:30:24.280 --> 1:30:26.479 for dinner, it's a problem. 1:30:26.560 --> 1:30:30.280 It's a problem for sure. That's how it's gotta be. 1:30:31.640 --> 1:30:33.360 As they would say players don't keep scoring. 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:39.640 Man, I'm I'm man, that's that's the best thing you 1:30:39.640 --> 1:30:40.200 said all day. 1:30:40.960 --> 1:30:44.120 I swear that's real. I'm living in Bro. That's real. 1:30:44.479 --> 1:30:47.439 And it's a different level of maturity, right, it's a 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:50.280 different level of maturity to say, yeah, like okay, nigga 1:30:50.320 --> 1:30:50.880 got that off. 1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:53.400 You know what. It's bigger than that. 1:30:53.720 --> 1:30:58.880 Hell yeah, because it's like even like now, like I 1:30:59.040 --> 1:31:01.920 just see the playing in the plot being so bigger, 1:31:02.000 --> 1:31:03.320 like dang, like you gotta think, Bro. 1:31:03.439 --> 1:31:06.880 I went from I'm not gonna say lying. 1:31:06.720 --> 1:31:09.519 But but speak ill I was technically lying but speaking 1:31:09.560 --> 1:31:12.799 about being executive on the Breakfast Club and like seeing 1:31:12.840 --> 1:31:14.840 my life prior to that, like I always looked at 1:31:14.840 --> 1:31:17.240 the Barry Gordy's and the La Reads and all these 1:31:17.240 --> 1:31:20.559 different people whatever, But now it's like who better to 1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:22.519 be inside a building than me? Like, what are you 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:24.920 talking about? I've been the artists. I've been through any 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:27.760 the worst thing the artists can go through. I went 1:31:27.800 --> 1:31:32.719 through being canceled before being canceled, Like, I went through 1:31:32.800 --> 1:31:36.160 everything possible, and I'm still one of the biggest in 1:31:36.200 --> 1:31:39.320 the game relevant making music, churning out this shit like 1:31:39.360 --> 1:31:41.599 I had two hundred and twenty seven placements. Yeah, last year, 1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:45.400 this was the six year six of my run, Like 1:31:45.439 --> 1:31:47.800 two hundred and twenty seven place. This pretty much place 1:31:47.840 --> 1:31:51.599 in the record almost every day, damn near. Like, but 1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:53.679 take no we all we do is go to the studio. 1:31:53.680 --> 1:31:55.000 I don't got no kids, I don't got no other 1:31:55.280 --> 1:31:56.000 I don't got a job. 1:31:56.080 --> 1:31:58.439 This is my job. This is my life. So you 1:31:58.479 --> 1:32:00.360 can you believe this is your actual job? 1:32:01.479 --> 1:32:03.000 Like when you look at it and you wake up, 1:32:03.040 --> 1:32:04.760 you're like, yo, this is really what I get to 1:32:04.800 --> 1:32:10.680 do every day. Like I don't think that collectively in 1:32:10.720 --> 1:32:15.639 this business we ever truly take those times unless somebody 1:32:15.680 --> 1:32:17.880 reminds us to say, bro, you get to do this 1:32:18.040 --> 1:32:22.760 every day. This is this is the blessing of all blessings. 1:32:22.880 --> 1:32:25.640 It is on a big scale like that shit like 1:32:25.720 --> 1:32:28.360 it's no way to be replaced or whatever. 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:31.519 But that kind of that thought kind of inspired me something. 1:32:31.560 --> 1:32:34.880 So I'm working for Atlantic or whatever, and it's like 1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:37.479 I'm lost into the sauce and I'm like, man, well 1:32:37.640 --> 1:32:42.280 you know cuz the deals I had over there Atlanta, 1:32:42.400 --> 1:32:44.720 like I really win it, Like man, my success and 1:32:44.800 --> 1:32:48.519 like my people set me up. Everything was Gucci but 1:32:49.320 --> 1:32:55.000 I realized that they wasn't trying to make me a boss. 1:32:55.360 --> 1:32:57.519 They was just wanted the records from me, you know 1:32:57.520 --> 1:32:58.719 what I'm saying, Like we cool. 1:32:59.400 --> 1:33:00.800 And then I was like, damn, Like. 1:33:01.439 --> 1:33:04.120 I was watching everybody else's trajectory and see how people, 1:33:04.200 --> 1:33:05.760 you know what I'm saying, the shit go like this 1:33:05.920 --> 1:33:08.800 or whatever like and I was like, damn, well, this 1:33:08.840 --> 1:33:11.320 producer or this songwriter kind of took a dip because 1:33:11.360 --> 1:33:14.720 he only focused on his self. He didn't work with everybody. 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:17.320 That's why I was like, I'm not singling myself out. 1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:19.680 I'm not only working with three niggas. I don't care 1:33:19.680 --> 1:33:21.920 if I could email or a text or somebody hit 1:33:21.960 --> 1:33:24.360 me on Instagram. They got some five shit niggas. This 1:33:24.400 --> 1:33:26.800 is what we were gonna work with everybody in the game. 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:31.040 And you know atlantic, I was able to be on 1:33:31.240 --> 1:33:34.400 both sides of the fence because like still an artist, 1:33:34.400 --> 1:33:36.840 I'm still a creative, but I'm in these executive meetings 1:33:36.840 --> 1:33:39.760 and I'm seeing things and we kind of prod way. 1:33:39.840 --> 1:33:41.960 We came to a to a part of the ways 1:33:42.000 --> 1:33:45.280 which we did a damage like several number one records, 1:33:45.280 --> 1:33:47.040 helld of millions of records together. 1:33:47.240 --> 1:33:49.840 And La Reid. 1:33:49.880 --> 1:33:52.240 I met a speaking of La Rea Happy birthday, La 1:33:52.320 --> 1:33:53.200 Read I met. 1:33:53.400 --> 1:33:54.960 I met him and I always looked up to him. 1:33:55.040 --> 1:33:58.200 Tricky Stewart introduced me to him formerly or whatever, and. 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:02.000 It's just like so like with me. 1:34:02.120 --> 1:34:04.240 He was just like, man, you got nigga like this 1:34:04.360 --> 1:34:06.559 is this is what it is. And he's like, man, bro, 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:08.920 I don't even really got it like this or whatever, like, 1:34:09.880 --> 1:34:12.040 but I want to give you a label deal and 1:34:12.080 --> 1:34:13.880 I believe in you and I want to make sure 1:34:13.920 --> 1:34:15.920 you get the money. And I'm working for Atlantic at 1:34:15.920 --> 1:34:18.880 this time or whatever, and they ain't offer me no 1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:21.679 label deal like I put putting up hits. I already 1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:23.559 did number ones for niggas and all types of shit 1:34:23.600 --> 1:34:25.040 that ain't come to me and say no hi or 1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:25.679 a label deal. 1:34:25.720 --> 1:34:27.599 We thinking of that. So La offered to me. 1:34:27.560 --> 1:34:30.559 And I loved La and I'm like, man, this nigga 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:33.320 is amazing, man, like I want to be around this guy. 1:34:33.400 --> 1:34:36.880 So I go back to Craig and I'm like, hey, bro, 1:34:37.640 --> 1:34:40.599 La off me label deal. It's like a million dollars 1:34:40.840 --> 1:34:43.320 or something like two million dollars on signing. 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:45.599 Let me go get my money, like. 1:34:45.600 --> 1:34:50.120 We are no no fucking out, no way. We love 1:34:50.160 --> 1:34:54.240 you, your family, we love you. And I'm like, okay, So 1:34:54.479 --> 1:34:56.479 they're like, let's let's let's show you how much we 1:34:56.560 --> 1:34:59.400 love you. So they came back. They gave me a deal. 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:04.080 And the deal, you know, it stopped me from doing 1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:07.240 business with la you know what I'm saying. And because 1:35:07.280 --> 1:35:09.519 I was already locked in the Atlantic and the deal was cool, 1:35:09.520 --> 1:35:10.880 you know what I'm saying, I took the deal. It 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:12.599 was an interesting time or whatever. It was a good, 1:35:12.680 --> 1:35:14.880 good deal, you know, but it wasn't what I was working. Well, 1:35:14.920 --> 1:35:17.880 this this what happened. They gave me the deal. So 1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:20.720 now I'm in the an R meeting right and they like, 1:35:21.720 --> 1:35:24.280 here comes such and such shit. You know what I'm saying. 1:35:24.360 --> 1:35:27.320 Everybody wants to sign this kid. He has a bidding 1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:29.960 war all over Colombia's really heavy on him, or a 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:33.200 republic or anybody or whatever they got. 1:35:33.240 --> 1:35:33.880 They got their. 1:35:33.720 --> 1:35:36.880 Offer in now blah blah. He wants he wants nine 1:35:36.960 --> 1:35:42.320 million dollars. He's got one song. He doesn't have a mixtape, 1:35:42.520 --> 1:35:44.439 but it's the biggest viral shit in the world. 1:35:46.000 --> 1:35:46.680 So he come in. 1:35:47.280 --> 1:35:50.880 He don't perform, he don't do nothing, don't wild me 1:35:51.800 --> 1:35:52.880 and these niggas was really. 1:35:52.800 --> 1:35:55.080 Sitting there talking about giving him nine million dollars and 1:35:55.120 --> 1:35:56.720 then you realize what your deal was. 1:35:57.000 --> 1:36:06.040 Yeah yeah, I'm like excuse me, Like wait what? 1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:08.960 And I done sold millions of records out of been 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:11.280 here for four years, like we what. 1:36:12.280 --> 1:36:14.080 This is like the end of my concerts, like three 1:36:14.080 --> 1:36:16.000 and a half. I did come on man like I 1:36:16.040 --> 1:36:18.200 did the ones. 1:36:17.840 --> 1:36:21.120 The big records like, and y'all went and told me 1:36:22.920 --> 1:36:25.200 we're gonna show you how much we believe in you 1:36:25.439 --> 1:36:27.759 and how much we care about you because you're a family, 1:36:28.160 --> 1:36:31.360 because you've been with us. So from there, I never 1:36:31.360 --> 1:36:35.599 forget this shit. I left the office that day and 1:36:35.640 --> 1:36:38.439 I went back to the hotel and then shit, uh 1:36:39.040 --> 1:36:39.799 the next day. 1:36:39.680 --> 1:36:42.080 That the an R meeting can kept. 1:36:41.840 --> 1:36:45.240 Going, I ain't show up, so like they all calling me, 1:36:45.280 --> 1:36:46.759 they are like, summon me to the office. 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:47.240 I go there. 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:50.040 You know, I was super close with Larrey and I 1:36:50.040 --> 1:36:52.599 still love all these people to today because it's nothing 1:36:52.640 --> 1:36:54.840 bad about the story. I'm still very successful. It is 1:36:54.840 --> 1:36:59.519 what it is. So they like, what's the issue. I'm like, 1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:01.680 I don't feel like y'all believe in me, Like how 1:37:01.680 --> 1:37:05.240 he's supposed to whatever, were breaking down different stuff and 1:37:05.280 --> 1:37:07.559 they were like, well, what do you want? I was like, 1:37:08.000 --> 1:37:10.719 if you really believe in me, y'all paying twelve thousand 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:12.519 dollars a month for me to be in a studio 1:37:12.560 --> 1:37:20.519 without paying my engineer, I want my own studio. Do 1:37:20.600 --> 1:37:25.160 what La Red did for Tricky Stewart and back when 1:37:25.400 --> 1:37:27.760 he was on fire, or do what y'all did for 1:37:27.880 --> 1:37:30.599 DJ Drama or whatever you want to outline it as 1:37:31.000 --> 1:37:34.800 believe in me, because I know when Tricky put me 1:37:34.840 --> 1:37:36.920 on game he said, well shit, when La left or whatever, 1:37:36.920 --> 1:37:40.320 I kept my studio. It was my studio can't take it. 1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:43.080 So I'm like, believe in me in that type of 1:37:43.120 --> 1:37:44.719 investing me in that type of manner. 1:37:44.880 --> 1:37:46.080 It was like how much you think that shit is 1:37:46.080 --> 1:37:46.720 gonna cost? Line? 1:37:46.760 --> 1:37:49.519 When people was like, oh, four or five more million? 1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:51.280 You know what I'm saying, to do it in La 1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:52.760 to do it the right way, the way he would 1:37:52.800 --> 1:37:55.559 want to do it for three million, four a million, 1:37:56.080 --> 1:37:58.040 and shit, they were like, all right, mat, we gonna 1:37:58.400 --> 1:38:00.439 get back to you and see how this work or 1:38:00.479 --> 1:38:02.240 whatever for you, and we're gonna make it happen. 1:38:02.760 --> 1:38:06.679 We believe you're our guy. Never made it happen. 1:38:07.880 --> 1:38:12.920 So from there, I was like, damn La read even 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:15.200 after I dubbed the deal and I couldn't take the 1:38:15.280 --> 1:38:19.240 million dollars from La. This man somehow turned my million 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:23.400 dollars into a song deal and still. 1:38:23.160 --> 1:38:25.840 Gave me the million dollars wanted to do. Yeah, Like, 1:38:25.880 --> 1:38:28.160 you can't come be a partnership here. 1:38:28.880 --> 1:38:30.679 I'm still gonna give you the same amount of money 1:38:30.720 --> 1:38:32.479 I was gonna give you to do that for this. 1:38:33.439 --> 1:38:35.720 I'm like, that's a real relationship, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1:38:35.800 --> 1:38:38.639 Damn this, this, this ain't what I think it is. 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:42.639 So from there, they never hollered back. And my partner Krishan, 1:38:42.680 --> 1:38:44.800 who's amazing. While I do all my records whatever whatever, 1:38:45.400 --> 1:38:47.400 we had a group or we still have a group, 1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.280 and he was like, man, can you see if you 1:38:49.280 --> 1:38:51.800 could go meet Ghazi or whatever and get us a 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:52.599 deal with Empire. 1:38:53.200 --> 1:38:55.519 I'm like, yeah, So I reached out to Ghazi. 1:38:56.800 --> 1:38:59.680 We go up there and Ghazi was like telling me 1:38:59.680 --> 1:39:02.040 about different stories in his past and I didn't know 1:39:02.080 --> 1:39:03.080 that he worked with Atlantic. 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:04.679 That tough too, you know what I'm saying. 1:39:04.439 --> 1:39:06.360 That he started all the records and this, that and the 1:39:06.360 --> 1:39:08.840 third and I was like, oh really. So then once 1:39:08.880 --> 1:39:11.400 he got that transparent with me, I got to be 1:39:11.439 --> 1:39:14.480 even more transparent with him about my situation or whatever. 1:39:14.240 --> 1:39:16.800 What was going on. And I was just like yo, like. 1:39:19.560 --> 1:39:21.559 Because they had put my back against the wall, like 1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:24.160 you don't even understand, Like they had put basically put 1:39:24.160 --> 1:39:28.360 a bounty on my head, like, oh, you ain't happy, pay. 1:39:28.160 --> 1:39:31.400 This number and you can leave or not. 1:39:32.680 --> 1:39:35.240 And the relationship was already so muddy, you know what 1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:38.120 I'm saying. After I I'm like, damn. So I told 1:39:38.200 --> 1:39:40.400 guysie what the number was. I'm like, bro, like shit 1:39:40.880 --> 1:39:44.600 they want They saying I gotta buy myself out with 1:39:44.680 --> 1:39:48.280 this or give him the money back myself. And I 1:39:48.320 --> 1:39:51.479 was gonna give him the money back, my dumb ass. 1:39:51.600 --> 1:39:53.880 But one of my mentors, my ogs, chimed there on 1:39:53.920 --> 1:39:55.840 me said, nigga, you were in the music, in it. 1:39:55.960 --> 1:40:01.360 You don't get no motherfucking money none of it. So 1:40:01.439 --> 1:40:02.559 I said, I've been. 1:40:02.800 --> 1:40:06.360 And GHAZI was just like, Bro, I believe in you. 1:40:07.040 --> 1:40:08.640 I thought you was coming up here that asked me 1:40:08.680 --> 1:40:10.400 to do a producer album or something like that. I 1:40:10.400 --> 1:40:12.240 thought we was gonna do small business. But I believe 1:40:12.240 --> 1:40:15.000 in you. Here's the compound in San Francisco. This is 1:40:15.000 --> 1:40:16.559 what I want to do. I'm gonna get you a 1:40:16.560 --> 1:40:18.960 penthouse here in San Francisco or whatever. You just come 1:40:19.040 --> 1:40:22.880 work with us or whatever, and please, bro, like, if 1:40:22.880 --> 1:40:24.680 you would allow us to work together, I think this 1:40:24.720 --> 1:40:26.439 would be great for us or whatever. And he went 1:40:26.520 --> 1:40:28.680 and he paid Atlantic Day money back and that's how 1:40:28.720 --> 1:40:29.799 I left Atlantic Records. 1:40:30.240 --> 1:40:32.800 Wow. Wow did that I didn't know that nigga. Yeah, 1:40:33.439 --> 1:40:35.479 So that that shit heavy on me. 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:38.920 So now it's like now the game, like, oh, you 1:40:38.920 --> 1:40:41.840 ain't got your studio no more. They was empowering the 1:40:41.880 --> 1:40:44.800 studio a niggas trying to like put chinks. 1:40:44.520 --> 1:40:49.360 In my armor like Empire. They not knowing the Empire. Damn. 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:51.360 There was the biggest company in the game. 1:40:51.400 --> 1:40:53.960 You know what I'm saying. But it's indie. It's not 1:40:54.040 --> 1:40:55.320 what I used to be. Whatever. 1:40:55.320 --> 1:40:59.240 There's most people don't understand market shit, bro. So my 1:40:59.320 --> 1:41:01.120 back was getting wall like I would be seeing shit 1:41:01.200 --> 1:41:03.760 niggas be screenshot and shit like close friends shit. It 1:41:03.760 --> 1:41:07.080 would be producers I work with and songwriters I work with. Like, man, 1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:10.120 this nigga burder fucked up being fucked up. 1:41:10.400 --> 1:41:11.280 He gonna fall. 1:41:11.080 --> 1:41:14.240 Off after this because we had so much massive success. 1:41:14.720 --> 1:41:17.240 And then from there I got in with Ghazi. I 1:41:17.280 --> 1:41:19.080 ain't never gonna lie man. I met Young Blue in 1:41:19.120 --> 1:41:22.240 the airport. Young Blue was like, man like, let's work together. 1:41:22.400 --> 1:41:23.880 And you know how you be in the airport, I 1:41:23.880 --> 1:41:26.439 ain't really figured out. I ain't know, I ain't taking 1:41:26.479 --> 1:41:29.280 serious or whatever. So we ended up meeting again. We 1:41:29.320 --> 1:41:32.080 went up there and we was in San Francisco and 1:41:32.280 --> 1:41:33.680 we was just working. He's like, man, I need to 1:41:33.760 --> 1:41:35.960 hit And you know, my first mind, I collaborated with 1:41:36.040 --> 1:41:36.639 Chris so much. 1:41:36.680 --> 1:41:38.519 I'm like, nigga, you want a song with Chris Brown 1:41:38.600 --> 1:41:39.080 is out of here. 1:41:39.720 --> 1:41:41.960 It's out of here, nigga, we going number one. So 1:41:42.040 --> 1:41:45.360 we in there, we cook the hook up, me and him, 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:47.920 Blue Ivory, Chris Fown, we did it all together. Then 1:41:47.960 --> 1:41:50.160 from there I ended up getting Brown on the record, 1:41:50.520 --> 1:41:52.240 and that was my first one out the gate were 1:41:52.320 --> 1:41:54.920 Ghazi with him Brown and two Chains or whatever and 1:41:55.360 --> 1:41:58.559 record it's platinum record. It's being the fucking shit. It 1:41:58.640 --> 1:42:00.599 was one of them reoccurring mom fuck us. That ship 1:42:00.640 --> 1:42:02.479 was tops here for forty seven weeks out of the year. 1:42:02.600 --> 1:42:08.920 Last Yeah, the first one off the hip there we 1:42:08.960 --> 1:42:11.760 came with the Peru record after that, and I did 1:42:11.840 --> 1:42:13.280 Tink Project and I Tink Ship. 1:42:13.400 --> 1:42:16.040 She got the most added last week at Urban radio 1:42:16.120 --> 1:42:19.200 with our record to shout out our business partner too. 1:42:21.960 --> 1:42:24.759 Yeah. Yeah, shout out to my little brother young Blue. 1:42:25.360 --> 1:42:31.000 We're back. Family's family man. 1:42:31.040 --> 1:42:33.720 Yeah No, that's that's That's an amazing story, man, an 1:42:33.760 --> 1:42:38.240 amazing path that you've taken. And the one consistent thing 1:42:38.360 --> 1:42:43.599 is you never stopped making the music, right because this 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:47.439 is the only industry that any day of the week, 1:42:47.560 --> 1:42:49.280 any time of the year, you can wake up and 1:42:49.360 --> 1:42:50.400 hit the lottery facts. 1:42:51.840 --> 1:42:54.360 But you just have to continue to do it. And 1:42:54.360 --> 1:42:57.120 that and what I found in. 1:42:56.640 --> 1:42:58.760 My years in the music business is the guys who 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:03.679 don't really ever reach their potential of the guys who stop, Yeah, 1:43:04.560 --> 1:43:07.240 you will have your time. You will have your time, 1:43:07.280 --> 1:43:12.120 you will have your season. Even some of the guys 1:43:12.120 --> 1:43:14.400 that we may not consider to be the most talented, 1:43:15.760 --> 1:43:18.040 they found their way because they just stayed in it. 1:43:18.280 --> 1:43:20.439 They stayed at it. And it's just like, yo, you. 1:43:20.680 --> 1:43:23.360 Know that record such and such as what's the nice 1:43:23.360 --> 1:43:28.160 record back? Hell no, the mean times I do that 1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:32.599 a week probably like that's who record? Ah man, that's amazing, bro, 1:43:33.200 --> 1:43:36.439 and we salute it, right, But when guys give up 1:43:36.479 --> 1:43:39.439 on it, that's when it's over. Other than that, it's 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:42.479 never over. Like this is an ageless business. This business 1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:44.960 is based on Peter Pan. You know what I'm saying, 1:43:45.000 --> 1:43:47.040 Like you never got to grow up in this motherfucker. 1:43:47.439 --> 1:43:50.960 Like you can make your life whatever you want it 1:43:51.000 --> 1:43:53.320 to be in this music if you stay true to it. 1:43:53.280 --> 1:43:54.800 And you stay at it. 1:43:54.920 --> 1:43:57.680 And for that, bro, I just want to salute you 1:43:57.720 --> 1:44:02.120 for that, because you faced enough right for the average 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:04.000 motherfucker to be like, man, I'm done with this ship 1:44:04.040 --> 1:44:07.800 like this is, this is and to further go into it, 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:10.439 to know that, nigga, you actually come from money. 1:44:11.280 --> 1:44:16.000 You didn't have to do this ship. You could hit any. 1:44:16.479 --> 1:44:19.440 You and your bobs couldn't just did real estate business. 1:44:19.640 --> 1:44:22.559 It's not as cool as this ship. Like let's let's 1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:24.720 be let's let's keep it. You know, this is this 1:44:24.800 --> 1:44:25.360 is the cool. 1:44:25.600 --> 1:44:28.000 But the coolest part about my ship is that I'm 1:44:28.120 --> 1:44:31.760 just getting the journey is just beginning right right. 1:44:32.280 --> 1:44:32.479 You know. 1:44:32.680 --> 1:44:35.679 It's like you know what happens though when you when 1:44:35.680 --> 1:44:43.799 you hit now now, nothing's off limits, Like your access 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:48.680 now is unlimited. It's like, oh, I see it's so 1:44:48.840 --> 1:44:52.479 much clearer now, and I can do so much more 1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:55.479 now with the access that I have. And if they 1:44:55.680 --> 1:45:00.880 won't do this, but I'll do it myself. That's when 1:45:00.920 --> 1:45:09.000 you hit a strike. Yeah, we got I don't know 1:45:09.000 --> 1:45:10.120 how you play this next second. 1:45:10.200 --> 1:45:13.240 Yeah, I don't know how. You know? You know what 1:45:13.280 --> 1:45:13.679 he does? 1:45:14.000 --> 1:45:15.840 If you if you see, if you've seen what we 1:45:15.960 --> 1:45:18.439 beyond man like, we got this special segment of the 1:45:18.479 --> 1:45:19.040 show Man. 1:45:20.240 --> 1:45:23.679 It's called I ain't saying no names. You can't say 1:45:23.920 --> 1:45:27.880 names Burg, I've seen them. I can't do it. 1:45:28.400 --> 1:45:32.080 Yeah, So the story can be funny or fucked up 1:45:33.080 --> 1:45:37.480 or both, but you can't say. 1:45:38.800 --> 1:45:41.759 The actual names of the people. You can say. 1:45:41.600 --> 1:45:44.120 Ship around it that my mother trying to figure some 1:45:44.120 --> 1:45:45.280 ship out, but. 1:45:45.200 --> 1:45:50.479 You can't say their names. Young Berg can't make up. 1:45:50.840 --> 1:45:55.360 You can't say it was me and niggas somehow. You 1:45:57.960 --> 1:46:02.439 can't you know what storyigga? What was Jamie? What was 1:46:02.160 --> 1:46:05.519 what was the last guy? Anybody that you don't think? 1:46:05.520 --> 1:46:08.439 How did? What was it? The Foxes started off a 1:46:08.600 --> 1:46:15.960 mineral awareness hotel room. This woman doing cocaine, famous actions. 1:46:16.000 --> 1:46:20.120 I'm not doing cocaine. She's doing cocaine. I'm not because 1:46:20.120 --> 1:46:22.519 of my religious belief. That's how it starts. 1:46:24.920 --> 1:46:28.000 We need some good man, we know, you know, we 1:46:28.080 --> 1:46:31.559 need a legendariry him maker, story man. 1:46:32.240 --> 1:46:33.000 Without the names. 1:46:34.800 --> 1:46:38.519 About the names, I'm trying to think, man, come tap 1:46:38.560 --> 1:46:42.880 into your ecstasy and ship man, give me half. 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:47.000 What y'all call it a bean? You call the bean? 1:46:48.080 --> 1:46:50.840 Yeah, I never got into the nicknames. I was never 1:46:51.960 --> 1:46:54.800 Just give me the Just give me the accent. Which 1:46:54.840 --> 1:46:57.040 color you wan? Bro, Just don't confuse me, just give. 1:46:56.920 --> 1:47:01.639 Me all right, Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 1:47:05.560 --> 1:47:12.559 I was at a famous person's house and I was 1:47:12.640 --> 1:47:15.120 I was working with with a bunch of other famous 1:47:15.120 --> 1:47:17.280 people before they were famous. You know what I'm saying, 1:47:17.320 --> 1:47:19.559 Like everybody's going to come up or whatever. We in 1:47:19.600 --> 1:47:26.880 Hollywood blah blah blah blah. And the famous person who 1:47:27.000 --> 1:47:31.320 house it was wanted to have a meeting with me. 1:47:31.600 --> 1:47:33.759 So we like I go to the living room or whatever. 1:47:34.840 --> 1:47:39.280 But it's another famous person with him. That's a lady 1:47:39.520 --> 1:47:44.080 that's that's giving him a hand job under the covers 1:47:44.120 --> 1:47:46.800 of the like he's sitting there on the couch or whatever. 1:47:46.840 --> 1:47:54.880 But during the meeting, like she's a famous girl like beautiful? 1:47:55.360 --> 1:47:56.519 Is she looking at you? Like? 1:47:58.400 --> 1:48:06.240 Meanwhile, she wasn't his girlfriend, the famous girlfriend is also 1:48:06.400 --> 1:48:11.280 in the house while this is happening too, just floating around. 1:48:13.400 --> 1:48:15.160 In the meeting. Yeah, you know what I mean. 1:48:15.200 --> 1:48:18.760 So he's talking to you though, like how were talking 1:48:18.880 --> 1:48:19.200 right now? 1:48:19.280 --> 1:48:24.280 Boy? He getting a full hand job and contact with me. 1:48:27.479 --> 1:48:28.719 You are not allowed. 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:34.200 You are not allowed to look at me while you 1:48:34.200 --> 1:48:35.599 are getting a hand job. 1:48:35.720 --> 1:48:38.200 But did she look at you? No, they was in 1:48:38.280 --> 1:48:41.400 their own thing. I think they were on some enhancements. 1:48:41.520 --> 1:48:41.720 You know. 1:48:42.200 --> 1:48:45.760 You can't look at me because somehow I'm feel like 1:48:46.160 --> 1:48:47.480 I'm part of the inspiration. 1:48:47.800 --> 1:48:51.439 I don't want it. Yeah, that was wild. Did you 1:48:51.479 --> 1:48:52.280 get a deal out of that? 1:48:53.000 --> 1:48:59.880 No, he didn't have to happen. 1:49:00.400 --> 1:49:01.040 It was whatever. 1:49:03.840 --> 1:49:06.520 That is the entertainment industry. 1:49:07.000 --> 1:49:11.679 Listen, Ladies and gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen. 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