1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: R and b's money. We are thank you take VALICHII. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: We are the authority on R and D. What's going on. 3 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: I am tank, this is the Valentine and this is 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: the Army Money podcast, the authority on all things R 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: and B. And we got in the building. Me and 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: his brother go back, like way back, like we used 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: to rent. 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Lamborghinis from the same guy. Now we can afford to 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: own that. You're the sailor saying he can get more 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: Lamborghinis than me. Now he can get lambas. We got 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: this brother in the house. 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: Man. 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: I don't know how he did it. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how he's doing it, but he's continuing 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 2: to change the game and elevate himself and. 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: All the people around him. We're gonna find out today. 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out today. Hint maker in the builder. 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: Yes, first of all, thank you, Bro, Thank you for 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bro, Thank you for my brother been here. Man, 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: I've I've watched you for a very long time. I 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: think you were sitting in an expedition. Was an expedition 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: and in the uh in the parking lot at the 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: Underdogs Old joint on on in North Hollywood, and you 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: had to window down. You were smoking a little bit. 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: You had your leg up and you said, listen, man, 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: you need to get some records from me. And look 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: at you, and I was looking at you, and I 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: need to get some records with you. You need to 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: get some records from me. I got hit, you got 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: hit R and B hits, I got everything. Okay, I'm 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: gonna call you. I'm gonna call you. 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Already. Listen, listen cut to you called it. You had him, 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: you got him that some crazy times the Underdogs, Bro. 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: Like I know y'all experience with the Underdogs is way 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: different than mine. But just like catching that wave and 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: being around Damon and Harvey and all them other time, Man, 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: you gotta think they had like the Avengers of songwriters 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: and producers all in are yourself, Jay j Q, what's Dawkins? 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: It was just like, Bro, it was amazing. I learned 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 3: a lot really at that. And that's where I met 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: Aaron Ray that signed an interscope or whatever Underdogs and 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: we built our relationship. But man, damn, shout out to Damon, Bro. 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: I just seen this last TV interview. 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: You are wild. Listen and if hit make it casts 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: you a wild boy? Wold I to live with him. 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: So you know when I was damnar homeless, he let 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: me stay in one of his rooms. He was solid, 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: he was cool. 49 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Listen, listen, we was up on top of the hill 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: and the pool it would simmer and the steam will 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: come on for we just called the hot dog water. 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: So you know that don't sound right, but well, Paul, 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: we'll pause it. You know what's going on there. So 54 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 2: listen with with with with our with our pod. You 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like we are, we celebrate the 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: music one hundred percent, and you go back a long way, 57 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: even before Hit Making. You know what I'm saying. You 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: had hits before Hit Maker. Yeah, young And so I 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: think I think first people, people. I don't want people 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: to get lost in in what they see now and 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: not understand the process and what it took for you 62 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: to fucking get here, bro. 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: And and if we can start at the. 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Beginning and kind of and kind of get to those 65 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: pivotal points that were game changing for you and then 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: make our way to one of the craziest shames I've 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: ever seen. If we can make our way there, you 68 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, The people would love that. Okay, Alright, 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: So the beginning. I'm from South side of Chicago, you 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I started there and like 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know, my parents are a millionaires, 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 2: so like I came from. 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I ain't never had a. 74 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Sandwich, a hot dog, a hamburger, lunchable. I ain't never 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: had burger king I briefly like a McDonald's nugget maybe 76 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: or something like that. 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: I ain't never had none of that shit in my life. 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: And I'm in my mid thirties right now, so like 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: that ain't never happened to me. 80 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: Ever. 81 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: I ain't have peanut butter and jelly. I ain't never 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: had a motherfucking. 83 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: Uh you had chefs? Yeah, you know, you know I 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: met his pops. 85 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: No, I met his pop to the BMI award me 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: this fool and Damon Thomas at the same table and 87 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: his daddy, Yeah, his daddy. 88 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: Cool and the motherfucker. And he keep his camera out. 89 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: He said, he said wait because he saw somebody else 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: talk to me, said wait, did they say you was 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 3: Jay Valentine. 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, like, ain't put our records in the honey. 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: He like, I know who you are. Let's take this picture. 94 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a p everybody in here tonight. He 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: in a mix, he not playing nah. So that that happened. 96 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: And then I was, you know, back in the day, 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: I was well, my next door neighbor was Shawna from 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: Disturbing the Piece or whatever where getting some head. Her 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: dad is buddy guy. So they were my next door neighbor. 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: They were the first people I seen indoor pool outdoor 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: pool flexed up or whatever. So she was in rap 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: groups and she was rapping and like that kind of 103 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: like rubbed off on me, my brothers and like all 104 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: the people around her or whatever. 105 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: So I just seen it from that view. 106 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: And then as I got older, I was a bad kid, 107 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: bro like not really bad, like. 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I was bad. 109 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: So, like my parents got a divorce and my dad 110 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: went back to the city and lived in one of 111 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: his apartment building pretty much like he went back to 112 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: the hood and we was living in his apartment building 113 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: on the East side of Chicago whatever, because my dad 114 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: is like a real like real estate mogul in Chicago. 115 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: But he when they had a divorce, we left a 116 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: big house and he's like, fucking, I'm gonna just go 117 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: live in one of my buildings and I'm gonna raise 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: my son. I didn't live with my mom. I wouldn't 119 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: live with my dad. I got like the opposite story. 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: So from there, I man, I started drinking and smoking, 121 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: probably like sixth grade something like that. 122 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Like so I. 123 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: Remember being in love or raps and shit, and like 124 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: my daily routine, like my dad would give mem like 125 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: twelve dollars for lunch money. I would go and buy 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: like a nickel bag of weed. I would buy half 127 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: pint of Seguins. 128 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 4: Gain. 129 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: I would get on the bus and write raps and 130 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: go to school. And this is like eighth grade, freshman 131 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: year in high school. 132 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like I was wild and 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: I used to have a crackhead. Go buy me a 134 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: half pint of Seguins. Hey, man, you got you. And 135 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: this guy no, no, no, I did my research on him. 136 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: He's different. Yeah, he was different, like for real, for real. 137 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: From there, I ended up meeting up some street niggas, 138 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: you know the whole story, And then pretty much I 139 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: created a demo with this guy named Bugs who still 140 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: works with Kanye to this day. They like right hand 141 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: or whatever. So my demo had Jesus walk beat on it. 142 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: My demo had all wait. 143 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait that actual beat. 144 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: The beat to Jesus Walks was a song by me 145 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: before it was Kanye's song, and it was on my 146 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: demo which led to me to get signed as a kid. 147 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: So from there, Boom the Dope Boy, the street dudes 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: or whatever, they take me, and then like we do 149 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: the whole little tour, like I remember Tommy Boy wanted 150 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: to sign me. I met a whole bunch of different 151 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: people out here. There used to be a club called 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: Luna Park, and I think like the Lakers that just 153 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 3: won a championship my mind. You back when I was 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: a little dude, I was like four foot four, like 155 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: I was like little little burg or whatever for real, 156 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: for real, and I rapped for like jay Z, Dang Dash, 157 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: Doctor Dre. 158 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: All these different people. 159 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 3: So everybody was offering me deals, and just so happened, 160 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: Eve had a stylist named Joe Exclusive that. 161 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: I shout out to. 162 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: Joe Exclusive always somewhere, always in the mix for sure. 163 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: That was Eve's stylist, and I've been around Eve a lot. 164 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: So he introduced me to DMX. 165 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: At what these bitches want from a nigga video shoot 166 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: at the Paramount Lout or whatever. And then from there 167 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: I gave DMX my demo and he was. 168 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Like, yo, Shorty, Uh smoke, but I'm gonna get to 169 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: you later or whatever. So he went smoking. 170 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: I went and I rapped for him and like, I'm 171 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: from Chicago. So my first rap was like I say, 172 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: go off with a tent, smoke, film to the hill 173 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: and like some twister shit, and he was like, Yo, Shorty, 174 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: I understand what the fuck you said, Give me another one. 175 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: So I did another one, the whole fucking trailer of reps. 176 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: And the next day I come back, Aliyah's daddy in 177 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: the trailer playing my music. 178 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: They're going crazy or whatever. Lead to me. 179 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: Signing the DMX, And that's what fourteen like a real kid. 180 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: But I was. 181 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: I was like me, now I'm smoking cigarette, smoking weed, drinking, 182 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: Like who you you with. 183 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: Your you with your guys from Chicago? You not with Pops? 184 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: You not? 185 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: No, I wasn't with Pops. So like I'm moving like 186 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: a grown man. Yeah, Like I was really rebellious. So 187 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: you gotta think back in those days, the rapping was 188 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: about staying true to like I mean, I had so 189 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: many bricks in my raps or whatever, like I wanted 190 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: to be industry Like I was literally selling crack, like 191 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: like my parents were millionaires and I was spitting out 192 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: rocks and selling them to my like crackheads on the corner, 193 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: Like I really wanted to live that life like and 194 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: be about that with my raps. 195 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: So from there, my pops. 196 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: In them scene, I was so rebellious that they just 197 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: didn't stand in my way. I was leaving regardless whether 198 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: y'all let me go or whatever. I'm going regardless. So 199 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: they took me all these different places and then that 200 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: was my first time meeting ray Ja, and then DMX 201 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: was just like Shorty, I'm gonna sign you. It's not 202 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: gonna be quick, but I'm gonna sign you. And I 203 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: was like I bet and the street dudes that brought 204 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: me there, they got insecure because I was working with 205 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: everybody wanted to sign me, and I wasn't the lead 206 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: act like the guy's like son was the lead act. 207 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: And I won't say, now he's selling music business or whatever, 208 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: God bless them or whatever. So that shit happened, and 209 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: like this was like my first like crazy experience in 210 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: the music business, Like I never forget it. We was 211 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: in New York and DMX was pulling up the Quad 212 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: studio and they're like, Yo, we're gonna DMX. Want to 213 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: see I was there with Eve with the street guys. 214 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: So the street guys like they pulled me in the 215 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: bathroom like, nigga, you act like you want to sign 216 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: a DMX thing. We're gonna kill your mama, We're gonna 217 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: kill your daddy. Nigga, we don't give a fuck. But 218 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm like like, damn, Like I'm a kid fourteen, So 219 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: I see X. I was holding back a little bit, 220 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: X telling me like, we got the deal. We're gonna 221 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 3: give you fifty thousand dollars advance. Were gonna do this, 222 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: but I couldn't really show no love. So we went 223 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: back to Chicago, were in the studio and the guy 224 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: that owned the studio came in and he wasn't a rapper. 225 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: He just went and gotten a booth while he was 226 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: in there working, Like, yeah, shorty, I busting that in 227 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: your mama face, and I do this that and the third. 228 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this is you. Yeah. 229 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: So I went in the booth and I lit his 230 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: ass up, flamed this ass up and. 231 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: Ship from now. 232 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 3: When I came out the booth, pop pop niggas to 233 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: start putting hands on me or whatever, and they like 234 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: locked me in the room and like bugs was the 235 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: guy that pulled me out the room. And then that's 236 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: how I got out my contract with the street guys 237 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: or whatever, and then I signed my deal with DMX, 238 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: and that's how that started him. Yeah, he was the producer. 239 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: He's a top producer. Got that just taught me all 240 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: the stuff. Like the street guy. No, he's a producer, 241 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: he's just a music guy. But the street guy that 242 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: was running ship was on some sugar night ship. So 243 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: when like after he rapped and after he put the 244 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: pieces on me, he like handed me a pin in 245 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: a and a and a paper like write a rap, nigga, 246 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: Write a rap, I own you nigga. And then I 247 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: was a kid. So once they put hands on me, 248 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: you know, I went back and told my parents and 249 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: that's how I got out that deal with the street 250 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 3: dudes and then DMX signed me directly ship. So that's 251 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 3: like early and this is the beginning. This is your 252 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: first experience in the music video. Yes, amazingly enough, So 253 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: that was that was pretty crazy, and then that started 254 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: the DMX era, the Bloodline era. 255 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Like resting piece of X. 256 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: Man, that man was really good to me, you know 257 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Pauls and uh man, I mean he 258 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: stole my first piece of pussy like I was still 259 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: a virgin. He dirty stole my first piece of ass, Like. 260 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Was it really yours though? Because he was the star? Yes, 261 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: but look so look yes it was it was. We 262 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: all know how this shit goes. 263 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: I took a question of my So look, we in 264 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: Canada film and Exit Wounds the movie or whatever with 265 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: Steven Seagal and all them, and I'm up there with 266 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: him while he's up there, and we go to a 267 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: club and we vibe and he loves pool, so we 268 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: go to a club that got pool tables and then 269 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: we vibing and whatever. And I found me a joint 270 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: and I'm vibe with the joint the whole night. So 271 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: you know, to play the artist when he leave, he 272 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: leaving his car and then the Antourize they get in 273 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: with the homies the security. So I got in with 274 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: the Anthouraze with the girl too, and I'm in the 275 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: band playing with Spliffer. You know what I'm saying it's 276 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: my first time. So this nigga DMX is literally a 277 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: dog though like rest in pieces. Literally like a real 278 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 3: dog in human form. So like I get out the car, 279 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: he already in his room security and got history. I 280 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: go up there and like he had the presidential suite 281 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: and I was in room like sixteen oh two right. 282 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: Next to his. 283 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: So I get there and I'm putting the key in 284 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: the room and next thing I know, the door fling 285 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: open the presidential suite. 286 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: He're like what up? I'm like what up? He like, heyo, ma, 287 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: I think you love your person room. And we never 288 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: been to the hotel at all. Like we met these 289 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: women at the. 290 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: Hotel and he made a bline away from me and 291 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: I never seen. 292 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: That woman again. So what I'm going to tell you, 293 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: my brother, it wasn't you. You weren't you. Weren't hit 294 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: making yet he wasn't you. Wasn't hit making, And that 295 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: was your introduction into this ship. I was trying to 296 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: jump in the game. Man. He took it, took my 297 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: took my vibe away from me. Man for real. So 298 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: whoever you. 299 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: Are, young lady, if you're watching this right now, you're 300 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 3: not low viral. 301 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: So what's the what's the next pivotal point? Do you 302 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: think after signing the d m X, now it's time 303 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: now starting to show improved. 304 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: I put some numbers on the board. 305 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that X when they gave him 306 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: the deal or whatever, he was just so on fire 307 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: that he didn't really know the business. 308 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: And that's what was that depth jail. 309 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: He wasn't in the vibe of really creating a business. 310 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: He was X you know what I'm saying. 311 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: But he had the right people around him, Shot to Jazz, 312 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: Young Tina Davis, Kevin Lyles, Leo, all the people that 313 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: was around or whatever. So at that point, the nigga 314 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: gave me a dog and was like, sure, you gotta 315 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 3: take this dog everywhere with you. So like I literally 316 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: had a dog, a pitbull, and I took the dog 317 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: out of a dog taking a shit in depth jam 318 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: in front of Lee or office. 319 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: They ain't saying nothing to me. 320 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: Or whatever, Like I'm really running around with a dog 321 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: from there at fourteen too. 322 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: Yes, So here's the crazy chain of events. 323 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: So now I got guns and shit in my house 324 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: or whatever, like I'm wilding. So like one of my 325 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: people's double cocked the gun while I wasn't there, and 326 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: the gun went off. And I was living in a 327 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: town home, so the gun went through my floor and 328 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: went through a baby's carriage, but thank god, the baby 329 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: wasn't there. So the police rushed my crib that they 330 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: had paid for me. I was living in Edgewater, New 331 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: Jersey or whatever. This word got back to my mom 332 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: and my dad, and then you know, them being rich people. 333 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I went back to. 334 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: Chicago and my mom hit me like, yo, I want 335 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: to take you to the mall. I'm like, shit, I'm 336 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: about to go back to New York. I do want 337 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: to grab a couple things. Come on, let's go. 338 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: So we went. 339 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: She getting all these mysterious phone calls and shit, I'm like, 340 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on? She like, I was 341 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: my new husband. He's gonna meet us at the mall. 342 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: So we go in the mall, I buy some shit. 343 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: I come out and it's two Samoan niggas, like six 344 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: foot niggas at my mom car. And then I'm like 345 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: what's up and she's like they're like, hey, Chris, these 346 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: guys are working on my house. And they're like, oh, 347 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: we hear you do music. Good to meet you. And 348 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, then my mom. 349 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Is just like Chris, you gotta go to school, and 350 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: just went and jumped in a car. 351 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: Nigga popped the trunk and it was all clothes and 352 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: shit like that. So now I'm in the parking lot 353 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: of the mall fighting with these two Samoan niggas. They 354 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: put me in cuffs, the plastic cuffs, and they put 355 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: all the shit out my mom trunk and put in 356 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: a car and they put me in a rental car. 357 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: So now I'm just riding. Yes it's a Rick Kennedy. 358 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 3: Yes I'm riding. I got a record deal, I'm signing 359 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: to Depth Jam, I'm doing all this shit. 360 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: So we driving. 361 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, bet we in Chicago. Now we 362 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: downtown Chicago. I'm like, oh, where the fuck were going? 363 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: They like, we can't tell you nothing, you'll know when 364 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: you get there. So now we're at Old Hair Airport. 365 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, what the fuck is we doing at the airport? 366 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: So they holding me as we walked through TA saying 367 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: it's too Samoan dudes, And it was a black lady 368 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: she like. 369 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: Get your hands off that boy. What you got I'm like, 370 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't know them. I run away in the airport. 371 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: I run to a daddy and my dumb ass, I'm like, man, 372 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: just take me wherever y'all gonna take me. We get there, 373 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 3: We get on the first plane, we go to Vegas. 374 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: They give me a note. 375 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: The note was from my mom basically saying she signed 376 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: away all her child parental rights to a concentration camp 377 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: type shit, and I was going to school or whatever. 378 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: And from there I ended up in Spokane, Washington. From there, 379 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: I ended up in Thompson Falls, Montana, and that's how 380 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: I lost my record deal with DMX. They put me 381 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: in a boarding school to where you couldn't look at girls, 382 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: you couldn't have condiments while buying. They paying five thousand 383 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: dollars a month for you to be there. So while 384 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: you were there and they telling you a piece of shit, 385 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: your parents is going to seminars to convince them to 386 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: tell them this is the best thing for you. 387 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: Now. 388 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: Me being a delinquent, I acted up there. They sent 389 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: me to Jamaica to some shit called High Impact, so 390 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: I had to walk the same school sent you. Your 391 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: parents They signed the people are just moving you around. 392 00:16:59,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: They signed over. 393 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: They right, I was being I was acting out in 394 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: Montana and they sent me to some shit called High 395 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: Impact in Jamaica. I had to walk one hundred laps 396 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: with a ten pound brick on my back. So getting 397 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: back to Thompson Falls, Montana, and I did that, and 398 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: then my father finally came and got me like nine 399 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: months later. 400 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know nine to eleven happened. I didn't know nothing. 401 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: You couldn't watch TV, you couldn't read books, you couldn't 402 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: do it. So you basically just cut off from the world. 403 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: And that's how I lost my record deal with Dmax. 404 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: What's the name of this school. It was called Spring 405 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: Creek Academy and they. 406 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: If you google it right now, like they got shipped 407 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: with like the people the guards with sexually harassing people. 408 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: Like they found out that the owner of the shit. 409 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: Was a molester. 410 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 2: Like it's like a crazy, crazy storys hitting went through. 411 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: Oh they sit there to a boarding school. Yeah, they sit. 412 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: And people don't realize that, and not even just black 413 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: any like rich people, rich people send their kids to 414 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: boarding school, like. 415 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: A boarding school. Yeah, my mama said, you do one 416 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: more thing. 417 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: So what happened that you out your pants can afford 418 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: to board school. 419 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: That's why you didn't go. No, he ain't do that 420 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: thing or what happened. I think that's what saved the 421 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: five km. 422 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: That's when I got kicked out of school. So when 423 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: I got finally kicked out, like my father came up 424 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: to the school, it's like maybe like a month and 425 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: a half left of school. My father came up to 426 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: school for like the you know, thirteenth fourteenth time, and 427 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: the principal looked at my father and said, listen, if 428 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: you take him home and never bring him back, I'll 429 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 2: pass them take him. 430 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: He was like me, but he was doing this in 431 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 1: a military. 432 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: House, my father military trip. What I got torn out 433 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: of the frame, I shit was different. See I was 434 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: getting all F's, my whole port car with f when 435 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: I got these, boy, I was getting Jordan's. I got 436 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: a C boy, I was getting Jordan's. 437 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: That's crazy. But you know, you know what the wild 438 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: thing about that. 439 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: And I was having a conversation with my guy both 440 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: that produced to show with us. We were talking about 441 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: that and a lot of times what it is is 442 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: is curriculums. Right, like you were a talented child, right, 443 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that that fits inside of the frame 444 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: of the way that our curriculums are set up. They 445 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: were trying to teach you things that you were never 446 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: going to use in your life, right because let's let's 447 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: be honest, most of these things. 448 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: Are built on people raising. 449 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: Workers use for societies to work, you need workers, so 450 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 3: a lot of times they only teach you to be that. 451 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: Right. 452 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: So when you have this talent, that's why you see 453 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: so many kids that have become successful say they told 454 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: me I wasn't gonna never be shit. It's some of 455 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: you niggas out here lying, some of your niggas lying. 456 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: You're teaching, and that you look dumb ass. 457 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: But it did happen to a lot of kids though 458 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: that didn't want to pay attention in there because these 459 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: things didn't peak their interests. 460 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm interested. 461 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: So I look at someone like yourself and I see 462 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: your successes and I'm like, oh, okay, I get it. 463 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, he didn't know it and he's 464 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: not a smart dude, because you obviously a smart guy. 465 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: You know how to run your business. 466 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: But these things that they were teaching, and the way 467 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 3: that they were teaching you were not advantageous. 468 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: To where you were going. 469 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: Hell no, I wasn't, and I'm glad I won't remember 470 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: that point because it's something that happened later in my 471 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: life when I worked at Atlantic Records that remind me 472 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: of what you just said or whatever. So I'm gonna 473 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: keep that in mind when we get to that moment though, 474 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: for real. 475 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: That's all facts right there. So your cops come get 476 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: you out of border. He saved you. Yeah, wait, but 477 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: did he sign you know you were going there? 478 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: You know I've been so bad, You know how you 479 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: just so terrible to your parents that your dad. 480 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Might drop Mike and be like, man, you can't even 481 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: get your mama. 482 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: I could do my mama harping on doing this shit, 483 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: but I ain't put him in a position to where 484 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: he could throw any more flak back. 485 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: I'd already been so bogused. Was like, all right, bet 486 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: God ahead, you know what I'm saying. 487 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: So he came and got me. I found out nine 488 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: to eleven happened. I found out a Lea passed. I 489 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: ain't know nothing like I got I lovely. I got 490 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: a tattoo of Lee on the back of my neck 491 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: with folk Drake and all stuff or whatever shout to Drake. 492 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: But so from there, like my dad was. 493 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: Just put me on game, like yo, you know you 494 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: got cousins that do music too, like Kenny Gambo is 495 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: your cousin Gamble and Huff. 496 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, who is that? And then they started. 497 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: He started putting on Game and like all the records 498 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: they had rolled or whatever. So I'm like, damn, that's 499 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: what's up. And my dad took me back to the city. 500 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: He invested in me. He helped me getting the studio 501 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: or whatever, get some studio time. And from there I 502 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: was like making dope music. And I went and I 503 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: knew Eve, and then Troy Carter became my manager. Troy 504 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: and Jay Irvin they would have They had a company 505 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: called Irving Wonder and then Eve got the TV show 506 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: to do on UPN. So at that point, Troy was like, 507 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: I'm moving to LA. If you want to come to LA, 508 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: I think this is where you could break and I 509 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: can help you, give you some opportunity whatever. 510 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: So I'm to LA. Troy paid for my condo or whatever. 511 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: I moved to LA and then I was out here 512 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: and I was working with Troy and then the first 513 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: project they got me was Eve. 514 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: I wrote the title track, the hook to the title 515 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: track on Eve's album Evolution, and I was like, damn, 516 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: Like I didn't even know what ghostwriting was or writing whatever, 517 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: but I was just doing anything to get a couple 518 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 3: of dollars or to do anything to be in a mix. 519 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: From there, we did barbershop soundtrack that Eve was on, 520 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: and then id meaning a lot of people, and I 521 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: met this girl named Morgan Smith that Eve was executive 522 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 3: producer of the project in Troy and Jay had signed 523 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: her to Interscope, and she was a young woman, pretty rapper, 524 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: beautiful girl. And I wrote a whole album and so 525 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: like the projects are in a scrapping, Yeah, I wrote 526 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: the whole album top to bottom, damn executive producer, whatever, 527 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: produced or whatever. You know what I'm saying. I was 528 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: pretty much her. So that was my first way to 529 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: get into the game. I'll never forget this ship, this nigga. Well, 530 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: now Troy my brother now too. I'm gonna say that 531 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: much my life story, you might as well. It is 532 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: so the nigga Troy had had me wearing like his 533 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 3: diamond chain. It's back when diamond chains first popped off 534 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 3: with the doll tag or whatever. I was wearing the 535 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: shit and fucking uh the nigga. 536 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: We in there. We're working on the album. I remember 537 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: we doing. 538 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 3: The ship and uh, I'm like, well, shit, what's up? Like, 539 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: you know, like I wrote the album like it's not 540 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: to get paid, Like, what's up? 541 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: Y'all got some bread for me? He like, nigga? Uh 542 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: that chain that show payment for the album. 543 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, but he was my manager and my dog 544 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: and I love Jerry so much. 545 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: As y'all still to see that. I was just like, yeah, 546 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: you know what, all. 547 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: Right, I'm gonna take the chain. I'm gonna ride it out. 548 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: And this is the funniest part of the story. So 549 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: we go and the House of Blues still alive and 550 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: it's still running. And they were managing Jada Kiss at 551 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: the time too. So I went in there. I got 552 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: drunk with Jadakiss on Hennessy. I'm loaded or whatever, me 553 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: and Troy and so you know, you get loaded. So 554 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: now I'm mad about not having no money, you know 555 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 556 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: Like me, y'all know Troy a little too. 557 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: Me and Troy got into a fistfight altercation in front 558 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 3: of the. 559 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Buck niggas had a lightweight down one. 560 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: In front of the House of Blues, like you know 561 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: where the London is right on that you talking about 562 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: the only two niggas who had. 563 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: So we fought. 564 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: He took the chain and the chain popped or whatever, 565 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: and he took the chain. So now I'm like, damn 566 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: with a chain of He's like, I'm gonna get it 567 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: to you whatever, and uh, he ended up giving the 568 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 3: chain away. I ain't gonna get into details about that, 569 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because that's my dog or whatever. 570 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: But he gave the chain away, and I was just 571 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: like damn, Like I just felt so betrayed, Like damn, 572 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: I wrote this ship. Subsequently, the girl ended up getting dropped, 573 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: her mom was a movie and all the. 574 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: Other stuff happened. 575 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: So now I was just back at square one with 576 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: Troy and Jane seventeen. I like, you still ain't really 577 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: grown nah at all. So from there, like I'm I'm 578 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: on hard times, you know what I'm saying. I think 579 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: Troy and Jake I remember that's when they became like 580 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: the Remember Vincent Herbert. They did a deal with Vincent Herbert. 581 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: They had like this fucking office on sun whatever. Yeah 582 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: blah blah, yeah, yeah, Matthew. 583 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: Knows it wasn't. Shout outs to Matthew knows too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 584 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: shout outs to Matthew. I like the man. I like, 585 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: I like how you think too, man. 586 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: So that happens, and then I think the timeline from 587 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: there is that me, Troy, and Jay we end up 588 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: parking ways, you know what I'm saying, behind that or whatever, 589 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: or they just got too busy for me, you know 590 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like, So I was out here and 591 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: I ended up moving in with my weed man, you 592 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And my weed man was a 593 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 3: club promoted at a club called Privilege. And this is 594 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: back in the era of t K. Y'all remember when 595 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 3: you know t K worked for hypnosis. Now, the people 596 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: that's buying all the catalogs or whatever from people t K, 597 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: he's gonna find their way shout out to you know what, 598 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 3: Shout out to Los Angeles because Los Angeles is a 599 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: place where you can find. 600 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: It and a lot. 601 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: My god, that's when LA was really yeah yeah, yeah, 602 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: Monday Monday ship. So I was doing that. My my 603 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: we man was a promoter at the club. So he 604 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: ended up introducing me to DJ Echo and Echo was 605 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: at power. 606 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: One oh six. 607 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: And then from there, I remember I did this song 608 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: called Sexy Lady, and like we didn't have no engineer 609 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: or none of that ship. We're not just gonna let 610 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: you just breeze. 611 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Over that record. I thought he was gonna get into it. 612 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 3: He goes into it to take a ship, like that's 613 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: a mother record. Come on, don't don't play with the 614 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: record like it's. 615 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: Just it's weak. No. 616 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: Look, this dude Junior who sings the hook on Sexy 617 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: was like my brother. His sister was so beautiful. Oh 618 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: my god, man, I loved his sister. She was one 619 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: of the baddest chicks ever. But so that's the tidebar. 620 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 3: But anyway, I remember recording the record at my engineers 621 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 3: at my weed man's house, and we had no engineer, 622 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 3: so like I would press three and leave it from 623 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: the beginning and go run. 624 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: Into the booth and then rap my ship you know 625 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, then go back do it again. Whatever. 626 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: So we flushed the song out and my weed man 627 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: was the promoter, so we kept going to Privilege, we 628 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: kept going to TK Shit and Echo would spin my joint. 629 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: Like I remember, I was going there with a chin 630 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: chill on board, be hot as hell outside of that La. 631 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: Boy, but I was just doing anything to be noticed. 632 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: This back in the day, he was a promoter wet 633 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: had no money, so we would go to routs and 634 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: buy the bottles before we get to the club. He 635 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: would sneaking being through the back and then bring him 636 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: out to us or whatever. 637 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're doing a vibe. 638 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: So the song starts bubbling, and then we created a 639 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: database of He used to hand the clipboard out at 640 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: the club and get everybody number and get all body 641 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: shit or whatever. So from there, Echo was like, this 642 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: song is kind of blowing up, Like I want to 643 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: take you to a pole one on six mixer meeting. 644 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: So I go to Power one oh six. I tell 645 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: my life story for them niggas. I cried a little 646 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 3: bit at the end of the shit or whatever, and 647 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: they were standing. Ovation started off and mixed show or 648 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: about like six weeks later that she was in Power Rotation. 649 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 3: I ain't had no deal or nothing, and it was 650 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 3: it was like it was random because I'm from Chicago. 651 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: I'm not even from La so you're thinking that maybe 652 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: somebody from LA. 653 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: That could be their story that I get a record. 654 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 3: I'll get it to the DJ and I go up. 655 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: So now I'm just blew up. Sexy Lady was the 656 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: hottest shit in the streets. So from there, my management 657 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: now or my business partner now that I work with 658 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: Billy J who worked with John Monopoly. At the time, 659 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: we was all kids and shit. He called somebody an 660 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: epic record looking for somebody else, and I. 661 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: Think Dave McPherson and some shit like that. Well, Sony 662 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: or whoever. 663 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: Back in the day was the big dog, and a 664 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: lady named Katie Katie Welly picked up. She was a 665 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: Keith Nashally's assistant. 666 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: She wasn't she was. 667 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: She was like j was a famous one if she 668 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: was at Famous music when I was at fan Miss 669 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: Katie is now a Sony. Yeah, Katie a big dog 670 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: and you don't notice, but Katie was instrumental in clearing 671 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 3: some of our records for it that came through Sony, 672 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: so shout out yeah. So Katie Welly heard the record, 673 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: caught the record, it was already blowing up, and she 674 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: introduced Billy to Keith and then I did a showcase 675 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: and Keith came, and from there they gave me a 676 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: label deal. Like yeah, shit, he'll take it. You know, 677 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: I didn't meet Charlie Walker. I just met Keith or whatever, 678 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: and then they gave me the label deal. From there, 679 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: the record was already blowing up. And then Junior, the 680 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: guy that was on the hook, got the big head 681 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: and was like, Nigga, is they don't even like your 682 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: partner song? The song it's really about me as the hook. 683 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, Nigga, you ain't right. 684 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: The hook though, you know what I'm saying. 685 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: You was a nigga singing and you my brother, So 686 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: you know how the labels when you write the song 687 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: about the system. 688 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Hell no, nigga, you said you said something about it. 689 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: He said something about I'm like yo. 690 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: His sister was Dayton t R at the time, Jason 691 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: Jason josh Yesh. 692 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: We knew his interview was. 693 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: So from there that happens and we get the deal. 694 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: Junior gets the big head. So Junior is supposed to 695 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: be signing my company. They went back door at me 696 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: Epic and signed Junior to his own deal. So I'm like, 697 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: we had this demo together and all the other shit. 698 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: They wanted the songs. I'm like, I'm not giving a 699 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: nigga no song. Y'a got to give me a quarter 700 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: million dollars just to walk in the studio with this nigga. 701 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: So they never did it. 702 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 3: They sent him on a world tour and then they 703 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: ended up dropping the nigga or whatever off of shit. 704 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 3: And then from there was one of them moments I 705 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: put out that record on the EP, and this is 706 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: when ray J was just on fire, like he was 707 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: like what like I was. It's brandy brother, he knocking 708 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: everything down like he was the guide in me. 709 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I want ray J on my EP. 710 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: So my manager finds ray Jo, who still works with 711 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 3: ray J and they developed the Scootie bike and all 712 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: that shit together. That's further down the line or whatever. 713 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: So ray come to the studio. You're like, yeah, you know, no, 714 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: you like to sexy his nigga in. 715 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: A game right now? I'm like, what, Like he like, 716 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: you know you got the sexy Lady. 717 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: I got this record I want you to hear though 718 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: it's called Sexy can I. 719 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good off that. 720 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: Like I already had the song of business with the 721 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: girl cash or singing I'm like, I'm coming with that 722 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: nixt I know what this is, and he's like, nah. 723 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be big for us. Bro. 724 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: So he did his record on my shit. He left somehow. 725 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: I was just like no, like I was on fire. 726 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I had the number one regular country. 727 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll get to that shit. I ain't gonna 728 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: do that shit. I want to go with what my 729 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: plan is. From there, he got it to Charlie Walk 730 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 3: because ray J subsequently did a deal with Cotch Records, 731 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: and if you remember, Cotch d in Shadow were working 732 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: all the Urban Records as everybody everybody. So from there, 733 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: Charlie Walk calls me to New York, summons me to 734 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: New York. I'm thinking, like we're gonna talk about my 735 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: next single and shit like that. 736 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: I go in there. God bless me, Charlie. I love you. Man. 737 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 3: Charlie had to be on some coke or some shit 738 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: like that or whatever, like wilding out. The nigga was 739 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: on top of his piano dancing to Sexy Ken I 740 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: like the in the Epic Records office. He's dancing on 741 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: top of the piano. My brother like dancing. He like 742 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: it's gonna be the biggest record of your fucking career. 743 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm like what. I'm like, what's the record you turned out? Yeah? 744 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, because ray J gave it the cock. 745 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: So now they thinking like they're gonna backdoor or whatever. 746 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: So I'm like, bro, I'm gonna be the sexiest nigga 747 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 3: in America from Sexy Lady the Sexy Ken I am my. 748 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: Right said, fred is my album name. I'm too sexy now. 749 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: Nigga like, how am I going from Sexy Lady to 750 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: Sexy Kenna? And then Charlie was like, man, what is 751 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 3: gonna take for you to do this song? It's gonna 752 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: be the biggest record of your career. 753 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: I said, you gotta buy me an epic record. Shame 754 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: He like that's all. Like you're in this fucking jewelry. Man, 755 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: I love it. I love y'all know you dude, you 756 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: know I love it. 757 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: So look the nigga gets off the piano and then 758 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: he goes and I'm like, yo, Jason and Beverly Hills 759 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: is my jeweler. 760 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: You gotta get me the chain. 761 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: He called Jason right there, probably came out my budget 762 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 3: or whatever, and they caught me the chain on the spot. 763 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: So now I'm like, man, they put me in a corner. 764 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: They to pay for the chain. So from there I 765 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: go to Miami and from like literally the della no 766 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: to what willis? I wrote my verses and and and 767 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: finished the song in between writing it from there, so 768 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: we do that. I do my verses at Circle House 769 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: Studio and then the cookies Man cookies. 770 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: In order to get there. You know, they got mango 771 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: trees in the back. 772 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: So at that point, and this is a crazy time 773 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: when I did the record, like this. 774 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: Is like. 775 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 3: My set, Like I was introduced to ecstasy from like 776 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: IRV Godi and Jo. 777 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: Rule when they had the murder. 778 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: Man and with the whole notherd this nigga just hit 779 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: the last left turn. 780 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: I was introduced. 781 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: So look when I did my verses for that, I 782 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: met Pleasure p for the first time or whatever circle 783 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: House Studio, and Pleasure was like, hey, so you want 784 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 3: one of these he gave. 785 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Me, He gave me some or whatever. 786 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: So I oh, I did my verses for a little song, 787 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: and I remember Pitt Bull was there and I'm like, bro, 788 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: you want to ecstasy because I'm so geeked up off. 789 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: He's like, no, poppy. I'm from Miami. If I'm gonna 790 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: get to it, I'm gonna get to it. 791 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna play with it. That's just reminded me 792 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: of mother fucking scar Face dancing in the club. So 793 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: you know, you, buddy bok, he wasn't gonna play with it. 794 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 3: So I did my bees and I never forget we went. 795 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: We flew from their circle house. We have been back 796 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: to l A. So not the record done. 797 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: We're here in l A. 798 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: And uh, they like, Ray wants to finish the song 799 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: with you. So I'm like, alright, bet so this like 800 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: in between I mean him giving me the song or whatever. 801 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 3: Now he's did his deal with Vivid, you know what 802 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like it's. 803 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: Through the roof and the state. Now now it's a thing. 804 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: So so it's all at the same time. 805 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all in the same So before he had 806 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 3: the song, kind of before he the tape came, it 807 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: became a thing when he did his deal and got 808 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: his bag from it. So now you know, we at Encore. 809 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: You know he's pulling up Lamborghini. Ray, you know, he 810 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 3: in his bag or whatever. So I'll never forget it. 811 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 3: We get in there and then you're like, yo, my brother, 812 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: I'm with cash or the girl that saying the hook 813 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 3: on the bene she was like my best friend at 814 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: the time or whatever. So he like, man, you know, 815 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: I don't need no disrespect, but you mind if I like, 816 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: I got to get into my energy, You mind if 817 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,919 Speaker 3: I play these I don't want. 818 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: To disrepect your girl. 819 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: And he just threw out a bunch of vivid DVDs 820 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 3: or porn movies on it on account and I'm. 821 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: Like, bro, this's my best friend. You could play that. 822 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: So we in encore he put the porno on the 823 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: TV or whatever. Mind you. 824 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 3: Tierra Mariaz his girlfriend too, So Tierra Maria is with 825 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 3: him while we're doing all this at Arencore. So okay, 826 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: we finished this song and I'll never forget he was doing. 827 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 3: He got a run at the end where he's like 828 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: getting in Jesus Jansen gun. But he was in there 829 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 3: like I gotta give him my Stevie. 830 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: I got to hit my Stevie. 831 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 3: And like t Air Marie was clowning him so bad 832 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 3: while we was doing this shit. 833 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: It was the most hilarious shit. So we finished the 834 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: song and then next thing I know, they like this 835 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: shit is about to be the biggest song with your career. 836 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: It's a hit. Blah blah. 837 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 3: Because when I did this song, like Ray would go 838 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: for four bars and I say nothing, Then like a 839 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 3: minute later he would pop back in with four more 840 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 3: bars and then it'd be blank again. So I kind 841 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: of like arranged his part and wrote my part and 842 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: came up with other parts for us to do together 843 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: on the song. 844 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: So that's how that went. 845 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: From there. We go to Miami shoot the video. So 846 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: we shooting the first shot of the video, me and 847 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: him and Lamborghini. I'm smoking a blunt. It's police around 848 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 3: us there to secure us in Miami for the shoot. 849 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm smoking this down to a roach. 850 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: I'll throw it out the Lamborghini before the first take 851 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: of the video. The police that's securing us come pick 852 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 3: the roach up off the ground smelling and pulled me 853 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 3: off the lamborghin me and locked my. 854 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: Ass up right there on the spot. On God, y'all 855 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: hired them to a rest. You pretty nigga took me 856 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: to jail. Jack, I'm not even talking about like it 857 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: wasn't nothing like about nigga. Miami jail, Miami jail. 858 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: Listen, there I had to build a couple of homies 859 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: out y'all know who y'all are. Cost me ten thousand 860 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: dollars one weekend, you know. But I ain't gonna never 861 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: leave my niggas in Miami jail for it to be 862 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: that hot outside in jail in Miami. Nigga tried to 863 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 3: ask one of the Hommy told me when they got out, 864 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 3: we got the niggas out like five six in the morning. 865 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: He said, you know, nigga tried to ask me for 866 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: my shirt. Bro, I said, did you give me your shirt? 867 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: Hell no, I ain't giving my telling what nigga asks 868 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: you for. The next nigga, get your shirt up off. Yeah. Yeah, 869 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: So I know about all that in there. 870 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 3: So I'm in jail and nigger to add to the story, 871 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: So this is around the time, you know Ray J 872 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 3: and Shaquille O'Neil our apartments on the Sexy ken I 873 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 3: song and money Mark or whatever what's the nigga that 874 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: beat used to be with shaq whatever like man his 875 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: name mark and long story short, this is when Shaquille 876 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 3: was on his like sheriff type ship. 877 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: He had just. 878 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: Became like a cop. So the nigga Shaquille came and 879 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 3: bailt me out of jail, like ten hours later or whatever. 880 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: He got back jail. Yeah, in Miami, Miami. He was 881 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: a sheriff in Miami. 882 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean Hember exactly. 883 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 3: So he came and got me out of jail. I 884 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 3: think I spent like ten hours in jail. I get 885 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 3: there's nighttime. We shoot the end of the video. You 886 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 3: wouldn't even know whatever, Like it never happened to get 887 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 3: right back to shooting video. 888 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 2: He's still shooting the video in jail. We just gotta 889 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: keep going. The homie gonna be good. He's just he's 890 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: just downright, but he's gonna be good, trust me to 891 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: hold his way around. 892 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: Was the exact vibe that he was on. 893 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 3: And when I got back ship, he was already super 894 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: geeked up on a on a bean, on his ecstasy 895 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 3: or whatever, and then gave me an ecstasy. I popped 896 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 3: that ship right right do. I'm going to watch this 897 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 3: video listen, man. 898 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta go rewind now back into 899 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: those times. 900 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: I just think about all of the clubs, all of 901 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: the move arounds. 902 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: That I was a part. I never had none of 903 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 1: those ecstasy in my system. I mean the VALENTINEO fuck around. 904 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: Extasy is amazing. 905 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: Ecstasy was. Ecstasy was amazing. Ectasy was not today. I 906 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 2: don't pop pills, I don't do dress. But in that time, 907 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: what it was, the it was, the pure it was. 908 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't stepped on that ship was beautiful. I used 909 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: to wake up. 910 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: Like nigga because you know, like ecstasy kind of gave 911 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: you the bubble gus, you gotta go to the bathroom. 912 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 913 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 3: I used to wake up at my career nigga and 914 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 3: pop an ecstasy Nigga, like upon the wake up take off. 915 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 3: Then you know what I'm saying, You use the bathroom 916 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 3: shower so you fresh for the day. I'm be on 917 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 3: ecstasy nigga at nine a m. 918 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: And Wow I was. I was wow. I was a 919 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: social you know what I'm saying, Like, where are we going? Oh? Shoot, 920 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: when we get there, pop up, We're gonna be there 921 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: for two three. I was turning up that That was me. 922 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: You know, I come from the drug dealers, you know, 923 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 3: so I you know my experience of it in my outlet. 924 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 3: You've never done ecstasy, I've never done anything. It's try 925 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: shrooms like the little chocolate microdo. It's close to it, 926 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: without the without the hangover, without the bullshit that coming 927 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: next day. You microdos a little bit, you'll be a vibe. 928 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: You will be a vibe. You think you popping that 929 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 3: management ship. Now you think you're talking tell the bar that. 930 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: Like and he already called me with fifteen ideas already 931 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: have to bro over. 932 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate you know what I mean, what you're trying 933 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 3: to do. 934 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: I ain't. 935 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's beautiful back in the day. So we do that, 936 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 3: all right? So what happened? 937 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: So we do that with video, finish the video, and. 938 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 3: Then ship they put that sexy canal and I ain't 939 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 3: gonna lie that ship like a rocket ship rocket. I 940 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 3: never expected it to be that. Never, because you got 941 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 3: to think nigga. They had put like styles P and 942 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 3: other niggas before they put me on the record, and 943 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 3: then they was like, visually, this don't match up styles P, 944 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: Like was super hard. 945 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, So. 946 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: They went and came and got me, and man, that 947 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 3: shit took off like a rocket. Next thing I know, 948 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 3: me and raj a like back to back tour bus. 949 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: This nigga on the road promoting Sexy Cannot which I've 950 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: seen some of the craziest ship on the road with 951 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: ray J. Shot out to him and his relationship or 952 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 3: whatever now and him and Princess, I have none but respect. 953 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 3: But y'all gonna get these stories from that era. It's different. 954 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: It is what it is. I'm gonna tell Sorry, I'm 955 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 3: gonna tell the story. 956 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: Listen, listen. 957 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: All roads in the music business, the fuck the music business, 958 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 3: all roads and entertainment to somehow, all roads, somehow that 959 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 3: nigga all rolls like ray J raisia fucking urban legend nigga. 960 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 3: Ray J took Whitney Houston a compound with us and 961 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 3: there you have it. 962 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this shit ever. 963 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 3: Like Whitney, and this was my first time meet and 964 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: Whitney she was a gangst like she was one of 965 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 3: them ones, like for real, Like we in there, like 966 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: she's smoking us cigarettes, chain smoking cigarettes. 967 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: Vibe. Man. We had compound. We in the back waiting. 968 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: She like, man, send one the motherfuckers in there, go 969 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 3: get us some patrol. They came out with the gallon 970 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 3: of patron for us. Me and Whitney throwing back patrol 971 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 3: shots out the Gallon together. 972 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: From that night we went in there. 973 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 3: She came in the club while we performed Sexy Kenna. 974 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: She was standing in the club with us as a 975 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: picture on my Instagram and me her Ray J from 976 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 3: that night, Nigga walking in compound like no cop, let's 977 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 3: take this shot, Let's take this rest in peace, Whitney 978 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 3: to good. 979 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: Times, man to ray So you have your run right, 980 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: you moving as young ber, you know what I mean. 981 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 3: It's you know, you're out here making your records. You're 982 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: getting that side of the business. You're getting that side 983 00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: of the paper and that money. And then what what 984 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: was what was the moment for you where you were 985 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 3: like I gotta make a shit. So look I went 986 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: and like I moved to my I was living in 987 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: a big ass crib out here, like off of Topanga 988 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 3: or whatever. And I had a bunch of niggas living 989 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 3: with me, and I looked at my bills. I'm like, damn, 990 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 3: I'm like spending like fifty five thousand illars a month. 991 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, to live before I even 992 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 3: smoke a blunt or do anything like the house and nothing. 993 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 3: I ain't got no nothing. Nigga's just me so from there, 994 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 3: I was just like, man, I'm out my paper getting low, 995 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 996 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: So I moved to Miami and well. 997 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 3: Actually I was presented with an opportunity a guy named 998 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 3: Brian McKinney, who played for the Minnesota Vikings at the time. 999 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian been instrumental in a lot of cool music. 1000 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: Shit man, Yeah, So Brian was like, look, I'm starting 1001 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 3: my label. 1002 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: I believe in you. 1003 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 3: I know you write and produce and you do good 1004 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: records or whatever. I want you to help me with 1005 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 3: my label whatever, and I'm gonna move you to Miami. 1006 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 3: And shit, you ain't got to worry about nothing. I 1007 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 3: got a studio in my house. And at this point 1008 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 3: Briant was the god. 1009 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm talking about, he blew. He blew a bag. 1010 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 3: Niggas don't understand what the lineman's make. Bro, the NFA 1011 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: they make the real bag. 1012 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: Bro. He the blind Side. They made movies about them. 1013 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: He's a hundred plus to the good. Bro. He was 1014 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: getting to the bag. 1015 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 3: I've never so from there, he moved me to Miami, 1016 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 3: and I'll never forget when I get to Miami. Now 1017 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 3: it's the w Hotel Brickle or whatever. But in the 1018 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 3: back they got the living, the house and the residential shit. 1019 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: Nigga pay my whole rent for a year. I think 1020 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: my rent was like eight thousand dollars. He came in 1021 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 3: and paid it in one wap for twelve months like shit. 1022 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: So I ain't had no bills no more. And I 1023 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: moved to Miami and I dropped a hunting on him. Yeah, 1024 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: he take this, And I was just moving around with 1025 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: that nigga. Boy. 1026 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 3: That nigga was a party animal, man, I'm talking about. 1027 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 3: He's an animal man. I lived the life of all 1028 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 3: lives with him. Like I remember, we came out here 1029 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: for bet Awards, and this nigga must have flew every 1030 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 3: little dirty lady from King of Diamonds with him to 1031 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 3: even the fat girls. 1032 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: Came every nice clean, nice clean. 1033 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 3: Me and Tanks played basketball at the King of played basketball? 1034 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: Did you get a haircut at the King of y'all? 1035 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: You have played volleyball, y'all? 1036 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 3: Niggas y'all was before me, y'all there before me, y'all 1037 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 3: seen it like y'all seen till seven am. 1038 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: And we got there at six fifteen. We spent the 1039 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: full taker. 1040 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 3: Brian flew like thirty women from King of Diamonds to 1041 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 3: l A for BT Awards, and like we were all 1042 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 3: staying at the mandri Onga, like twenty hotel rooms. Ohlah blah, 1043 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 3: and I ain't know, like it was crazy because like 1044 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 3: I was spending my own money on drinks, like you know, 1045 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 3: I had girls coming through and I walked in one 1046 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 3: of the strippers room. These ladies had room service power 1047 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 3: to the floor. 1048 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, how y'all buying all this? Like his credit 1049 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: card is down. 1050 00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 3: At the incidentals, I said, holy ship, I caught. 1051 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: Y'all come to my yard. Man scot ball in my yard. 1052 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,760 Speaker 1: I was balling out of control. 1053 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 3: So Brian Man he came in, really was like an 1054 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 3: angel for me at that time because I was still 1055 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 3: trying to figure it out. So from there trying to 1056 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 3: figure it out, I'm like, uh, fuck it, I'm moved 1057 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 3: to Atlanta. I moved to Atlanta, and I realized how 1058 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 3: clicky it was in Atlanta, like because it would be 1059 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 3: like Polo and them over there, akon and booing them 1060 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 3: over here, but everybody had their own little ship, so 1061 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 3: I couldn't really get into the. 1062 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: Mixed team Paine over here or whatever. 1063 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 3: And DJ Infamous like I go and I Well, first 1064 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: happened was I signed producers and then we did this 1065 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 3: record by this guy. It was kind of like a 1066 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: one hit one day. It was like called Snapbacks and 1067 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 3: Tattoos snap Back. 1068 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: We did the song. 1069 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like one of my first producers. 1070 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: Like Joints or whatever. 1071 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did that record, shout out to Tricky shot 1072 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,439 Speaker 3: a Coop. And then from there I did my idea 1073 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 3: publishing deal with my producer with Ludacris, with Shaka and Jeff. 1074 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 3: And the funny thing is because Sean Formoso and Tone 1075 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 3: Day were the little guys under Shaka and Jeff who 1076 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 3: now run lvr N or whatever. They was under them, 1077 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 3: So like I was able, they were young, I was young. 1078 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 3: We like in the same age range. So I got 1079 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 3: the publishing deal from my producer and then from there 1080 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 3: I did a hook for DJ Infamous called double Cup 1081 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 3: and I was on the song. And that's the first 1082 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 3: time I ever said hitmaker. I was on the songs me, Ludacris. 1083 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: Juicy J and Uh Young Jeezy. 1084 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 3: So this around the time or whatever, They're like, niggas 1085 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: weren't fucking with me, Like this be a honey you 1086 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I was like, I had a 1087 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: bad stigma on me, but I was infamous, was looking 1088 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 3: out for. 1089 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: Me, and Jeezy was on fire. So we shooting a 1090 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: video and ship. 1091 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 3: But Jeez ain't want to let me in none of 1092 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: his shots or whatever because he ain't want to be 1093 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 3: to be around him or nothing like that or whatever. 1094 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 3: So you know, I got lit on the set. They 1095 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 3: like action, Well I go running. Jez already knew what 1096 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 3: this nigga did, ran in his She was like, man, 1097 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 3: I go quick crazy. This was like, bro, you gotta go. 1098 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 3: You already did your part. I did my parts already. 1099 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 3: I was just leaking around. Yeah, I was there from 1100 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 3: the daytime. Now you know Jeezy to start, so we 1101 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 3: coming later. He's showing up late. But I'm like, damn, 1102 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 3: I wrote the song. It's me on the hook, It's 1103 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 3: my song. I gave it him how you don't want 1104 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 3: to be around me and I'm on. 1105 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: It's my song. 1106 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 3: From there, that was like the first time I ever 1107 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: said hitmaker, and that was just like it didn't happen, 1108 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 3: like I'm hit maker, Like you know what I'm saying. 1109 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 3: That's why I'd be weird when people be like. 1110 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: Well, Burg hit maker, what I call nigga, I'm still Burg. 1111 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 3: I'm still younger unless I do a face off nigga, 1112 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 3: I'm still young Berg. 1113 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: I can call me whatever you want, nigga. You know 1114 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1115 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 3: Okay, you already got check calling me whatever, nigga whatever. 1116 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 3: So from there, I do that that record, and then 1117 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 3: I'm in it. I'm in Atlanta and I had a 1118 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 3: bunch of demos that I had from Miami and like, 1119 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, how do I do this? And fucking 1120 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 3: Vincent Herbert Cousin ends up getting contact with me. I 1121 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 3: sent him a record, got to Tamar and it got 1122 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 3: to Vince, and Vince was like, man, I want to 1123 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 3: bring you here to La to work on this TAMARW album. 1124 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: And they flew me out first class. 1125 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shout, I'm back first class because you know, 1126 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 3: a nigga go down and coach. You know what I'm saying, 1127 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 3: Like when this is the line like cut off, you 1128 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 3: know you're back in the humble beginning. Flew me first class, 1129 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 3: put me at the Sophie tail before yourself. I still 1130 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 3: be trying to fly coach. 1131 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: He won't let me. Man my ass and touched the coach. 1132 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 3: Seaton like and listen, I don't give a fuck I 1133 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 3: do because you see where the thing is. You about 1134 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 3: to put out your single? You will care because then 1135 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 3: catch you with your mouth opening. 1136 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: I won't a coach or whatever like. 1137 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 3: This because they won't listen, because they won't catch me 1138 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 3: on my mouth open because no, no, no, no, no, no 1139 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 3: no no no, listen, listen. 1140 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: He takes a cover. 1141 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 3: I got a cover he got from Delta, but I 1142 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 3: literally put nigga. 1143 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: I put the cover on. 1144 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 3: If you see a white it's probably me. 1145 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: And like, I don't see why don't you know the tricks? Huh? 1146 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: So you how I do nigga? I do that in 1147 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: first class. I'll do that when he's spending his money. 1148 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 2: You coach, He's like, man, I ain't got time for 1149 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 2: this ship, but I promise you when we send that 1150 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,760 Speaker 2: rider to the promoter. 1151 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm judging you. 1152 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 3: I'm judging you because I judge the women that they 1153 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 3: get flyouts based off that. Like if you fly, if 1154 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 3: you fly first class when you book in your own flight, 1155 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 3: I'm gonna fly your first class if you. 1156 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 1: Fly coach when you book your own fight. But we're 1157 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,479 Speaker 1: working either way. 1158 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe they're working too, of course, but 1159 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But when we're working and 1160 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 3: it's a part of the you know, it's a part 1161 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 3: of the rider. 1162 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: It is what it is. But the truth of the 1163 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: matter is. 1164 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: Even when I fly myself first class, right for me, 1165 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't I mean, it's just me. 1166 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 1: They don't really matter. 1167 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 3: I have bad luck with and I don't care about perception. 1168 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: I had bad luck with. I'm the Valentine. 1169 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 3: I had bad luck as a youngster though, because it's 1170 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 3: a different type of hurt and feeling that you got 1171 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 3: when you get on a plane and like. 1172 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: An Angela Simmons and. 1173 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 5: Fast city and you young, you gotta walk back and 1174 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 5: then you gotta walk back like hey, everybody, everybody got. 1175 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: They everybody got it. 1176 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 3: I'll say hello. I might even stop talking to him 1177 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 3: for a minute. I see y'all on the plane land. 1178 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, everybody got the bow. Wow. Fucked that up 1179 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: for me. I ain't flying coach. And now my nig 1180 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: give that's my dog, you know. Now, my dog, Me 1181 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: and Bow had dark days. 1182 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 3: Or whatever back in the day, just over whatever stuff 1183 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 3: and women and stuff like that. But man, that's my dog. Now, 1184 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 3: but I'm not going to coach. I don't get the 1185 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 3: bag has to be Well, if the bag is that big, 1186 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 3: then why would I be flying coach Anyway. I was 1187 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 3: about to say, like, if it's a million dollars somewhere, 1188 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 3: that's like, yo, you you have no choice but to 1189 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 3: get on it. 1190 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: I'm out coach me. 1191 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, masked up whatever, But my 1192 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 3: ass saying touch no coach. 1193 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: Sheating seven years for real, for real? 1194 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 2: I respect and it's never going back. Okay, maker, no coach. 1195 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 2: So you said hit maker in that song. That was 1196 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: the first time you said hitmaker. Why did it become 1197 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 2: a thing or how did it become a thing? 1198 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: Uh? Ship, I don't know. It just happened organically. 1199 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 3: I wish I could really say, like I was like, yo, 1200 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna be hit maker or that's what I 1201 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 3: just said. It came out here to La was up 1202 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 3: at the Sophie Tail working on Tamar Braxton Love and 1203 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 3: War albums. So like the song that they wanted. When 1204 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 3: I get to the studio, I owed the studio some 1205 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 3: money in Miami so they wouldn't relinquish the file for 1206 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 3: me to cut it. So like I had to come 1207 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 3: up with the audible you know what I'm saying on 1208 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 3: the spot because the first class though, and you wanna 1209 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 3: pay that motherfucker studio field. 1210 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 1: I didn't buy that. I'd have been coaching. I was 1211 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: frying myself. So we do that. 1212 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 3: We get out there and Tamar you know now, you 1213 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Me and Tamar are super cool. 1214 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 3: We in a good space or whatever. But she was 1215 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 3: in she was in her bag. This when Tamar and 1216 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 3: Vince had that TV show like they were and resting 1217 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 3: piece of Lashan Dan. It was, you know what I'm saying, 1218 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 3: when he was the go to guy. He was in there, 1219 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So from there, I'm like, 1220 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,919 Speaker 3: I ain't got that song, but I got another song 1221 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 3: that I think Crazy played it for. It's called the 1222 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 3: One or whatever ended up being her single on that project, 1223 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 3: and she loved it, and they went in there and 1224 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 3: did it. They took my tag off the song. I'm like, damn, Like, 1225 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So I created a new 1226 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 3: tag the way I just screamed on the song in 1227 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 3: the background and made it a part of the shit. 1228 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 3: So it still stayed on the song, and that was 1229 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 3: like I was like, fuck it, I'm moving back to LA. 1230 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. Vincent Herbert was supposed 1231 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 3: to sign me, give me a deal and do all 1232 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 3: type of stuff. It never panned out. I mean, show 1233 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 3: love to Vince. I just seen Vince at Circlehouse recently 1234 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 3: and I moved back to LA and I was kind 1235 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 3: of like the start of like, all right, bet, I'm 1236 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 3: gonna take this LA shit seriously again. You know what 1237 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm hit maker now I'm gonna do this. 1238 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 3: I did my first publishing deal. I did my publishing 1239 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 3: deal who I'm still in a publishing deal with with 1240 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 3: Mike Carron at APG and boy, Mike lucked up on 1241 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 3: this shit. Mike might be one of the best business 1242 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 3: man in the game. I think Mike signed me for 1243 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 3: thirteen thousand dollars. So some ship like that nigga back then. 1244 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 3: This is in twenty twelve, it's not later. I'm still 1245 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 3: signing my Karen on publishing, but be good and I 1246 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,479 Speaker 3: got a joint benchure now and obviously right so here's 1247 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 3: the other part, because we always talk about this, right 1248 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 3: we want we did this show so it would yes, 1249 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 3: we want to have a good time. 1250 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: We won't go and crack jokes. We're gonna do what 1251 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: we do. 1252 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 3: But we also want this ship to be informative, right, 1253 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,800 Speaker 3: And I think what happens in this business is people 1254 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 3: always look at things as. 1255 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: Somebody fucked me out, and I know he does, and 1256 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: I do. 1257 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 3: I look at things as someone gave you an opportunity. 1258 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 3: Now if you don't want that, unless they put a 1259 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 3: gun in your head and made you sign something, right, 1260 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 3: if you signed it on your. 1261 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: Own, you know what I'm saying, and. 1262 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 3: On ecstasy like you, guys, But you know what I'm saying, 1263 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 3: But you can't sign deals on extity. You can ship 1264 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 3: because everything is good on ecstasy. 1265 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, kid, Yeah, we can do. 1266 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 3: Like you said later, you signed that, you signed that deal. 1267 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,959 Speaker 3: If we can find my man a lot, that would 1268 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 3: be amazing. 1269 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: Guys, somebody you know what I mean. 1270 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 3: You go ahead, right, but yeah, no, so you know 1271 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 3: you signing that deal led to these other opportunities in 1272 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 3: life that you may have not got. You may have 1273 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 3: not gotten if you don't sign this thirteen thousand dollars deal. See, 1274 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 3: but that's the business man, and you being a manager 1275 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 3: and being rich, like writing our concept like until you 1276 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 3: make it out and get some money, they fucked you. 1277 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 3: That's all you think in the whole time. Yeah, and 1278 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 3: if you never make it out, they always full exactly 1279 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 3: hindsight when you make it out your deal or whatever. 1280 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 3: He was like, man, well damn, if he didn't give 1281 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 3: me that opportunity, I might not have access to do 1282 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 3: the studio and do the things that I did. 1283 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,760 Speaker 1: And from there I'll never forget. 1284 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 3: Damn it's getting to it a good spot or whatever, 1285 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 3: because I love your story about the love and hip 1286 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 3: hop people that I did the show with on season one, 1287 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 3: about the monies and the dog food or whatever. So 1288 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 3: long story short, Hazel e the girl Hazel, which we 1289 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 3: all knew, you know what I'm saying from just being around. 1290 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course she was. I believe it. 1291 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out the Echo and all them. I remember 1292 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 3: they was moving heavily and doing that. 1293 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,919 Speaker 1: So Hazel, he just approached me like, man, I'm doing 1294 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: love and hip hop. Fuck this shit. 1295 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 3: We're gonna do a love and hip hop Hollywood. We're 1296 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 3: gonna put everybody on it, all the people that So 1297 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 3: I was. 1298 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: Like, shut, I'm down. 1299 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 3: Should I had nothing to lose, you know what I'm saying. 1300 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 3: Like I was working with Puff at. 1301 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 1: That time to deal with Mike Heron. 1302 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 3: I'm at apg On Kowanga every day, you know what 1303 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying, working making my rounds, doing all this other stuff. 1304 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 3: So I was just like, fuck it, let's do it. 1305 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 3: From there, it came reality and then ship. At the time, 1306 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 3: I didn't know what was going on. 1307 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: So the lies. 1308 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 3: I gotta clear this up because I never really said 1309 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 3: all this shit. So we do love and hip hop. 1310 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 3: I wasn't fucking Hazel we or dating Hazel Wee or 1311 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 3: nothing like that. 1312 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: Whatever. 1313 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 3: She was just Hazel we Like everybody know Hazel from 1314 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 3: being Hollywood. 1315 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: She's my nigga. Like we was really. 1316 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 3: Homies, always supposed together. 1317 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: I'll get to that. 1318 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 3: So from there we get to the show. And now 1319 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 3: they got like the cast meeting or whatever. So now 1320 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 3: a cast meet and I'm like, holy shit, these are 1321 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 3: all people I know. Then it was like, oh shit, 1322 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 3: my ex girlfriends here. So I don't mean no disrespect. 1323 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 3: They probably gonna go viral with us, and I mean 1324 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 3: it's an off air. I'm not gonna say nothing both us. 1325 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,919 Speaker 3: So Joy, who's Bow baby Mama or whatever. 1326 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: Future. 1327 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 3: She was like one of my ex girlfriends from back 1328 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 3: in the day or whatever. So she was on the 1329 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 3: show like they had casting her for the show or whatever. 1330 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, it's lit. 1331 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 3: So me and her end up rekindling after we see 1332 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 3: each other at the meeting, then we now we were dating. 1333 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 3: We back into the vibe, we back into the mix 1334 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 3: or whatever. So when we first started shooting the show, 1335 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: it was me and Joy. Joy was my girlfriend, but 1336 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 3: as you know, a reality TV because joys on the show. 1337 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: She was on the show filming and the whole thing. 1338 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,959 Speaker 3: Nigga and I remember your name used to be thrown 1339 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 3: around the heaviest because they were like yo, Tank and 1340 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 3: Zina is gonna do the show and this that and 1341 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 3: the third this season one. 1342 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: Like what they called us first, They called us to 1343 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 2: build the cast. 1344 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: So we were the first. We were the first couple 1345 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 1: called to do loving Him. 1346 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 2: And we So so we put the playlist together, the 1347 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 2: original playlist, and me and him got to talking, and 1348 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 2: I got to talking with Atlantic and they were like, 1349 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 2: we get it, but you don't need this right now. 1350 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 2: This is a different kind of energy that and. 1351 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's twenty fourteen too. 1352 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 2: And so like it didn't happen right, And so for me, 1353 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 2: you know, I was still doing still doing tank, you 1354 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 2: know at the time, for my wife, we were trying 1355 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 2: to build a platform for her, so it's gonna be 1356 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 2: perfect for her. So in me pulling out, you know, 1357 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 2: they pulled the plug on her, but they took everything 1358 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 2: else that we had already built. 1359 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 1: But that. 1360 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 3: TV and for that ultimately, I've never had the conversation 1361 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 3: either about that because you know, we we. 1362 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: Don't usually go. 1363 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm glad you got him because because in that situation, 1364 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 3: I just called it for me, I saw the future 1365 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 3: for him, right, because this at this point in that year, 1366 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 3: we're rebuilding, right, and what I understand from what we 1367 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 3: were trying to build right where everybody's everybody's path is different, 1368 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 3: but from what we were trying to build, it didn't align. 1369 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 3: It just didn't align to what we where we were going, right. 1370 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 3: And you know, and this is a part of having 1371 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 3: a trusting clients. The fact that a bag is in 1372 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 3: front of him, extra famous, in front of me, extra 1373 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,959 Speaker 3: everything right, These is all positive things. 1374 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: And then you have me saying, nah, cham and I guarantee. 1375 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 2: I know I'm wouna carry myself on this shit. Listen, 1376 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 2: I know I know how to carry myself. 1377 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Right. We may know how to carry, but we know 1378 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: how this show goes. 1379 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 2: And I've been in La for I don't know how 1380 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 2: many years they sent you. Man, they start to digging 1381 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 2: and pulling up skeletons out of that La dirt, you 1382 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 2: never know where that's gonna go. 1383 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 3: So and Ray put me on right once I've seen 1384 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 3: Ray was involved. And Ray started calling me or whatever. 1385 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 3: He's like, think it, it's gonna be ten seasons. We're 1386 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 3: gonna milk the ship. 1387 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: We back, we gonna. 1388 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 3: Sexy cannot part to him, I'm like, man, you know 1389 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 3: you start thinking like so. 1390 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: We do the show. 1391 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 3: Me and Joy are like boyfriend and girlfriend on the show, 1392 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 3: and like they wanted me to do like some some 1393 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 3: shit that I wasn't really comfortable with, Like they wanted 1394 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 3: us to be kissing and this that. But this is 1395 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 3: my first time being in front of the TV show camera, 1396 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,439 Speaker 3: so I didn't know what was going on or whatever. 1397 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 3: It's like, in hindsight, I should have been tongue kissing 1398 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 3: with the people that they put in front of me. 1399 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 3: Post that, you know, what I'm saying. So I was 1400 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 3: being stiff on camera. She was being stiff on camera too. 1401 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 3: We both was very reserved about things. And I go 1402 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 3: to Miami to work with Puff on this money making 1403 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,479 Speaker 3: Mitch ovel. So I get down there, I'm working with him. 1404 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 3: We vibing all this other shit. But they said the 1405 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 3: way it set up, all the girls on the show 1406 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 3: really didn't feel each other or whatever, like just off 1407 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 3: of strength they create the beasts or whatever. 1408 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: So Joy, I was. 1409 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Dating one girl, and then Masika was like from Chicago. 1410 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 3: She was like a best friend of me. She's like 1411 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 3: my drinking partner. We hang out, we kicking. We never 1412 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 3: had no sexual relationship. We never crossed the line on nothing. 1413 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 3: You know how, you might got a girl that's just 1414 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 3: like my nigga, Like yo, you you know how to 1415 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 3: have fun and pretty girls like being with you or 1416 01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 3: being around you. 1417 01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: So this is a good look for me. 1418 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 3: So I went to Masika's birthday and then I went 1419 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 3: to Puffs to do it, to Miami to Puff's house 1420 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 3: to do the stuff, and me and Joy fell out 1421 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 3: in the midst of that, so we never spoke again. 1422 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: The relationship was over. I get back. They picked me 1423 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,479 Speaker 1: up from the airport, you know, because they don't. They didn't. 1424 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 3: They don't allow you dry your own transportation. They don't 1425 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 3: know you get your own uber. They come pick you 1426 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 3: up in a fucking mini van with a bottle of 1427 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 3: some rocking or whatever and just start feeding you liquor. 1428 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 3: So they and they tell me my dress code. They like, yo, bird, 1429 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,640 Speaker 3: come in shorts, T shirt. So I'm thinking, I'm gonna 1430 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 3: go play basketball with like Soldier Boy and Little Fears 1431 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 3: and O Mariana some shit. They pull up the Hazel house, 1432 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 3: so I'm like, what the fuck? Don't like, Yeah, they 1433 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 3: bring you to the scene. So now I'm I'm just like, 1434 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 3: oh shit, I ain't know what's going on. And I 1435 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 3: love Hazel, no respect to Hazel. All lives more this 1436 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 3: eight years ago. So from we get in there and 1437 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 3: then they basically like, look we setting it up like 1438 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 3: you had a long night out with Hazel. You guys 1439 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 3: spent the night together this. 1440 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: That and time. 1441 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, what, So I even I even talked to 1442 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 3: Joy yet, I even I ain't even spoke to Joy. 1443 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 3: I just had a girlfriend four days ago. I ain't 1444 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 3: I broke up with my girlfriend. 1445 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know nothing. 1446 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 3: So now I'm like a yo, fam, y'all finna try 1447 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 3: and have me looking crazy like that, like I'm dating 1448 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 3: a girl on the show. 1449 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: And y'all drum I don't. 1450 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 3: So I'm like, fuck this show, I ain't doing this 1451 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 3: scene or whatever. So we're sitting outside shit and fucking 1452 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 3: Mona just appears out of nowhere like Khuella Deville. 1453 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: Like, I'm bag you make Stevie Jib loving it. 1454 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 3: Yo, I'm talking about that Haitian mother fucking so she like, 1455 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 3: you're my Stevie j Love and hip hop Hollywood. This 1456 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 3: show is gonna be based around your interactions. 1457 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: It's good. 1458 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, fuck that, y'all trying to have me 1459 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 3: look like I'm two timing my girl on the show, 1460 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 3: Like I ain't even spoke to her. They like, look, 1461 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 3: she like, look, nigga, we fire Joy. She's not on 1462 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 3: the show no more. I'm like what, Like, yeah, she's fired. 1463 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,439 Speaker 1: She's no longer on the show, and I can't call 1464 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Shorty because we ain't on. 1465 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm like, you want me to go in 1466 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 3: there and be myself, like just be me, and they like, yeah, 1467 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 3: just go in there and do it however you feel 1468 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 3: just do it. 1469 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: So I go in there and they got her capped up. 1470 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She's in a robe and 1471 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 3: lingerie neglige a or whatever, and like, granted, I'm gonna 1472 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 3: be clear on this because I know it's gonna go viral, 1473 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 3: and you know, she might have something to say or 1474 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 3: a buddle about this. Whatever I had slept with Hazel 1475 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 3: previously or whatever. It wasn't my girlfriend. I already we 1476 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 3: had already slept together, but it was and like we 1477 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 3: were actively dating or whatever in our past from her 1478 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 3: being a publicist and whatever back when I used to 1479 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 3: live at the Archstone or some shit like that or whatever, 1480 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 3: like that was what it was. So We're getting the 1481 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 3: vibe and she's like putting it on like heavy, like 1482 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 3: last night was amazing, blah blah blah blah. And I'm 1483 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 3: just looking like an asshole because I'm like, you ain't 1484 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 3: my bitch. 1485 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: Hell no, like we ain't did this. 1486 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 3: And then ship I kind of dogged on her, you 1487 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, and I left the scene 1488 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 3: and they're like this is amazing, this is great. Yeah, 1489 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what make good this girl crying inside 1490 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 3: throwing shit? Inside her career right now, like now, granted 1491 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 3: speaking now that I know in hindsight, she might have 1492 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 3: been putting on for the camera too. 1493 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1494 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 3: You know, because if you don't, you get mixed off 1495 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 3: the show. And this is what I didn't know, this 1496 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 3: is what I found out later. If you're not in 1497 01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 3: the episode, no, so you can shoot three and scenes 1498 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 3: if you won't, if your content not good and you 1499 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 3: don't make that screen, you're gonna get paid. So as 1500 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 3: much as you went to Zara and march your little 1501 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 3: boys whatever, like shut off the Hey, you don't get 1502 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 3: your money back from Zara, bro, I'm about I was 1503 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 3: right down. 1504 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: I was in Zara head to toe. I was Ora's 1505 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: first man, kist. I was. I want to always pay 1506 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: for my first gass fight. But you won't catch me 1507 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: and coach with no you hear that, bro? They wouldn't 1508 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 1: getting my Zara money back. 1509 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 3: So it was important back there too, Like it's all 1510 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 3: Richard Mills and big Cha boat taking right now. 1511 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: That was important to. 1512 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 3: Take only makes that color bring, right, everybody don't make 1513 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 3: that color. Brother. 1514 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: You gotta coordinate, you gotta coordinator. 1515 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,919 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a mush your belt 1516 01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 6: on or nothing. So you're right, you know yo, that 1517 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 6: shit Yo. So I'm doing all my czar and. 1518 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 3: Shit and uh doing that. We're shooting the show or whatever, 1519 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 3: and it's not going the way I would like it 1520 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 3: to go, you know what I'm saying. But now, once 1521 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 3: you're in the show and you're in the matrix of 1522 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 3: the show, then you really become that. 1523 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1524 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,960 Speaker 3: That's why I feel like I send my condolence is 1525 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 3: not not not feel bad, but like I feel how 1526 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 3: every person that's ever been on that franchise whatever feels 1527 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 3: if they don't make it out of the franchise, you 1528 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because it's like your life is 1529 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 3: encompassed with that shit. Now, so whatever we do that 1530 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 3: I do love and hip hop. Then like Mona like 1531 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 3: approaches me and is. 1532 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: Like, beg, would you be down to kiss Mesika on TV? 1533 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, y'all got me with this whole other 1534 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 3: story or whatever with somebody this two story later bad 1535 01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 3: looking and shit, I kissed on TV, and shit it 1536 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 3: evolved into something else, you know what I'm saying. 1537 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: And now me and her was a thing on the TV. 1538 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 3: Show, so long, story shows a bunch of bullshit on 1539 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 3: the TV show and it ended, and then they tried 1540 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 3: to like murder me like Mona and them tried. 1541 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: To like paint me in such a bad way. It 1542 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: was just like damn. 1543 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 3: And like I was like, damn, I'm doing a TV 1544 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 3: show cause I'm working with puff or whatever. And then 1545 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 3: missed me doing a TV show Like how you said 1546 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,600 Speaker 3: good investments and niggas gave you opportunity. I was in 1547 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 3: APG and I did a hook to a fucking popping 1548 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 3: oak beat and I named the song Nicki and hit 1549 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 3: mak and I'm like, man, Nicki Minaj is gonna work 1550 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 3: with me. I'm about to work with Nicki Minaj. Watch 1551 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 3: this shit bruh. And then I go see sounds at 1552 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 3: Glenwood Studio randomly he was working with Esther Dean and 1553 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 3: her artists back in the day. And then my brother 1554 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 3: Doc was like, man. 1555 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: I just seen Nicki Minaj. She in the same studio. 1556 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 3: I did the song like a day before. I'm like, what, 1557 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 3: go tell all? I'm in him to tell her that 1558 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 3: brought me in the studio to meet Nicki Minaj. I 1559 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,799 Speaker 3: pressed play on a whole bunch of shit. Like literally, 1560 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 3: she took me under her wing like this, like and 1561 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:03,840 Speaker 3: never let me. 1562 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Seeing it from the outside, I'm like. 1563 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what the fuck is young bird I'm talking about? 1564 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 3: She had me like this and was just like, my 1565 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 3: studio is your studio. If I'm not here, take over, 1566 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 3: do what it is. So you know, I'm flossing it 1567 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 3: out to the max nigga. I'm like, shout out to Nikki, 1568 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 3: shout and shout out to people who give opportunities. 1569 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: Nigga was because everybody don't cause niggas wasn't. But you 1570 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 1: what's the crazy? I never said this story too, bro. 1571 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 3: Well, after I played my songs for Nikki or whatever. 1572 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: And she was feeling me and like she was like, yo, 1573 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: this hard. 1574 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 3: She was like this before like she was. She was like, 1575 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. I've been fucking with you since 1576 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 3: this and double clicked on her laptop and took the 1577 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 3: aux nigga and. 1578 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 1: It was give me the business. I was like, oh shit, 1579 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: but it fucked. 1580 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 3: Me up because I was famous before Nicki Mina, so 1581 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 3: like at that point, like you don't even think. 1582 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 1: About that, you know what I'm saying. It didn't even 1583 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: hit me. 1584 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 3: All together, Like damn, I was really young berg and 1585 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 3: had that song before Nicki blew up, so that shit 1586 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 3: was like crazy, and I'm like, damn, I'm doing love 1587 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 3: and hip hop. 1588 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: I can say Nicki Minaj like, so they was. 1589 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 3: Nicky was like, oh yeah, you drop my name like 1590 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 3: we were doing great work. I probably did like five 1591 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 3: records on an album or something like that. But I 1592 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 3: was there through the whole process, through the pink print 1593 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 3: and shit. From there, I leave the show and it's 1594 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 3: dark again. I'm like, damn, Like I got nick I 1595 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 3: got my shit going on, but damn, so I got 1596 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 3: this big ass house in Chatsworth, like and I kind 1597 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 3: of like psyched myself out. Like I had a little money, 1598 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I ain't had no big 1599 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 3: money like I was. I had like one hundred grand, 1600 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, maybe one fifty, but motherfucking 1601 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 3: I had. My dad helped me get this crib, and 1602 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, Yo'm gonna use this crib. 1603 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: It's motivation because I gotta pay. 1604 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 3: These motherfucking bills, so I gotta work my ass off. 1605 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 3: I gotta get these placements, and I use it in 1606 01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 3: motivation and that time, we was in my man. I 1607 01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 3: had a bunch of boyshit furniture. I was living like 1608 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 3: a nigga, just girls everywhere. Seven thousand square for a house, 1609 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 3: just the bedrooms furnished for the most part in TV's 1610 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,799 Speaker 3: and a couch, but it wasn't fully decked. 1611 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:12,680 Speaker 1: Ore like how it was supposed to be. 1612 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 3: And I created a makeshift studio in my basement and 1613 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 3: I had my engineer being with me and he's now 1614 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:21,600 Speaker 3: I don't know who engineering. 1615 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: Now, but that was my guy. 1616 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 3: And Jeremiah came to my crib and he was like, bro, 1617 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 3: let's work. 1618 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: So we started working. 1619 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,799 Speaker 3: We in our vibe or whatever we do, like eight songs, 1620 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 3: and I had a girl with me and he had 1621 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 3: some company with him too. 1622 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 1: So now it's winding. Now they're like two thirty. 1623 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, faml uh shit, let's wrap this shit up, 1624 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,639 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Ready to take it upstairs. 1625 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,000 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I got one more in me. 1626 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, come on, bruh, man, I ain't trying 1627 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,880 Speaker 3: to do it like bro, trust me, I got one more. 1628 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 1: He win the booth. I put the beat up. 1629 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,680 Speaker 3: He went the booth and said letstny took an l 1630 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 3: butson that I bounced back, wake up in morning, man, 1631 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 3: and now I couched. I was like, okay, it's hard. 1632 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 3: I went, I took the ship to Big Sean and 1633 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 3: it became Big Sean bounced back, and Big Sean was like, man, 1634 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,559 Speaker 3: you know, I love this record, like shout to Metro Booming. 1635 01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 3: He co produced on record Shouts to Smash David. So 1636 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 3: he's like, I love this record. You know, I don't 1637 01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,160 Speaker 3: know what it's gonna be, but man, maybe we should 1638 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 3: just throw it out there and just see it. 1639 01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 1: Like, I don't give a fuck. Nigga. 1640 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 3: He like, hey, bro, do you have a tag or 1641 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 3: anything you want to put on the song? I'm like, 1642 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 3: after all these people been taking it off, taking it off. 1643 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 1: He asked you about you at his house. He like, 1644 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 1: you got a tag? 1645 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 3: Bro? 1646 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I went and said my tag. Nigga. 1647 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 3: That ship you put that ship out of shit took 1648 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 3: off like a rocket, nigga. Shit like seven times platinum now, Nigga. 1649 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 3: His biggest performing song stent by himself as a solo 1650 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 3: artist on High one hundred That shit and like number two. 1651 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 3: She had the super Bowl commercials. The ship had everything 1652 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 3: hell yeah, ship and that ship that and that was 1653 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 3: the start of it, and I'm like, oh, we rolling 1654 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 3: then from there. Jay Grant, who works for RCA, super influential. 1655 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:05,719 Speaker 1: He was like one of the an. 1656 01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,759 Speaker 3: Rs that was really like an an R, real nigga 1657 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 3: to us, Like boy, he would rent out Paramount for 1658 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 3: us and fucking buys all the catsuya we wanted with 1659 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 3: the label credit card nigga and fucking. 1660 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: Use use that, motherfucknigg all the liquor. 1661 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 3: And then that's how Chris Brown Party happens, and then 1662 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 3: all this other stuff and now I'm running them up, 1663 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 3: getting a couple of placements, and Ryan Press has always 1664 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,720 Speaker 3: been like a mentor to me, and I'm like, man, 1665 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. I went on Breakfast Club after 1666 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 3: Big Sean bounced back and Chris Brown. 1667 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: Party, and I had a bunch of players. 1668 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,759 Speaker 3: I probably had like fifty placements now, so I'm popping 1669 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 3: my ship on Breakfast Club and I'm like, man, but 1670 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,840 Speaker 3: y'all really don't realize I'm really about to be one 1671 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 3: of the biggest. 1672 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Executives in this game. Nigga nigga. 1673 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 3: Motherfucking these labels offering me jobs right now to be 1674 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 3: an RS line, like a motherfucker like that right now, Nigga, 1675 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,599 Speaker 3: I'm about to be one of the biggest an rs 1676 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 3: in this game. 1677 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Watch this shit. Lied from there. Ryan was like, I've 1678 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 1: had a conversation. Ryan. He like, you want to meet 1679 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Craig and Julie? Like yeah, ship, hell yeah, nigga. After 1680 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,599 Speaker 1: I seen you at the b and my awards. Damn 1681 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,719 Speaker 1: there around that time. 1682 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 3: They took me to meet Craig and Julie and I 1683 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,519 Speaker 3: went in there and told the speech and which I 1684 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 3: still stand on to this day. There's nobody that's gonna 1685 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,599 Speaker 3: be influential. I'm really cut from that cloth. I'm cut 1686 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 3: from that IRV Gotti. I'm cut from that motherfucking jay Z. 1687 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 3: I'm cut from that the big producer that works with 1688 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,600 Speaker 3: the artist cloth. You can't tell me nothing about I 1689 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,800 Speaker 3: lived it. He in Mexican, gave me a dog. You 1690 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 3: remember seeing me in your office, Julie, right, You remember 1691 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 3: I was so on and then they made me the 1692 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,760 Speaker 3: vice president and out Atlantic Records, and then that's when 1693 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 3: it started getting getting real interested. 1694 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 1: That's when it started cracking. 1695 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 2: Out that I don't that for me, that wasn't the 1696 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 2: most impressive part right, because I know you can. 1697 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 1: I know you can make that. Actually give me yeah. 1698 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 3: Talking about it, but you you deserved it. 1699 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,640 Speaker 1: In fact, you wouldn't get that. 1700 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,719 Speaker 2: My question is like guys locking to it was zone 1701 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 2: and going to run and find a thing that they 1702 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 2: are able to milk for a very long time. And 1703 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:16,840 Speaker 2: you found a niche in grabbing old records and reproducing 1704 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 2: them and making them brand new smash records. 1705 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a very important component 1706 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:24,519 Speaker 1: to that. 1707 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 3: This guy worked directly with the guy who did it before. 1708 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Puff Puff Daddy, the king of what? 1709 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 2: So what made you say this is gonna be my 1710 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 2: formula and nobody's gonna beat me? 1711 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 1: You know what? 1712 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 3: It was a moment for me. I ain't never gonna 1713 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 3: forget this shit. It fucked me up because Nelly had 1714 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,360 Speaker 3: hot in here, right and it was going crazy. 1715 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn this shit crazy. 1716 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 3: I'm like for real crazy like and I've been a 1717 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 3: student of the game. I know all the producers, I 1718 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 3: know Puff You know what I'm saying, Like, damn niggas 1719 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 3: really taking this sound and bringing it back and doing 1720 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,920 Speaker 3: all this other shit or whatever and blah blah blah, 1721 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 3: Once I found out that Nelly Hot in Here was 1722 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 3: Chuck Berry, Chuck Chuck Brown, Yeah, shout out to the 1723 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 3: DMV bro, I was like, oh fuck, no, hell no, 1724 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 3: I'm bringing back the first time you hear you think 1725 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,280 Speaker 3: is original. You could you could put ten people in 1726 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 3: his room right now and say play Nelly hid in 1727 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 3: Here and say what is that song sample from? 1728 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 1: And I guarantee they won't unless they from there. Yeah. 1729 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: So then I was like, oh shit. 1730 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,599 Speaker 3: I started looking at like for real whole little catalog 1731 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, he's just making original beats and 1732 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 3: just some of the beats on original either too. Like 1733 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,679 Speaker 3: he's taking this ship like homeboy I came to party. 1734 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:44,679 Speaker 1: That's a splip. 1735 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 3: Even the nigga with his manager listen and label the 1736 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 3: jam Steel Boss and showing your rocks. 1737 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: Nigga, that's an old rap record. Wow. Yeah I didn't know, yes, Bro. 1738 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, ship, this nigga's been doing it. 1739 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: But he finessed it. 1740 01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 3: His way, and I'm like, oh, that's the puff way. 1741 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do it my way 1742 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 3: and just do everything that I grew up on one 1743 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,680 Speaker 3: O six and park on or whatever and all the 1744 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 3: records that I love. 1745 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna flip on my on my own. How 1746 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 1: did you know it was time? Right? Because like because 1747 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 1: it's a sweet spot. 1748 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,000 Speaker 2: There used to be a thing where like a certain 1749 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 2: amount of time used to have to elapse on a 1750 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 2: record for it to be a classic or even a 1751 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 2: certain amount of success. 1752 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 1: You're not. You're not flipping all platinum records. 1753 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 2: You flipping just whatever got that essence to it, that 1754 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 2: you with the feel to it. 1755 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 3: That's what I'm humbly. I want to say this because 1756 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know at first, but it was just like, man, 1757 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 3: like a producer and a top tier producer. I was like, man, 1758 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,600 Speaker 3: it's about the work, it's about all this, which it 1759 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 3: really is, but they really paying you for your taste level, 1760 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 3: for the taste of music what you got. Expound on 1761 01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 3: that because as a producer, and this is this is 1762 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,440 Speaker 3: something that gets. 1763 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: Very very cloudy in this business. The producer. 1764 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 3: Right, we have beat makers, we have producers, we have 1765 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:17,719 Speaker 3: vocal producers, we have finishers, right, we have all these 1766 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 3: different things that. 1767 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: Can tank to do it all. I mean, yeah, he 1768 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,040 Speaker 1: would he would pretty much form the record. It would 1769 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,240 Speaker 1: pretty much say that I ain't. 1770 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 3: Helped him with his life, but you know that is 1771 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 3: what it is, because I love the nigga. Man. 1772 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean kids is my guy kids, 1773 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 1: my kids, this guy kids. Like you know, I'm sitting 1774 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,680 Speaker 1: there watching the nigga say, man, ain't getting checked my 1775 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 1: man by myself? Right. 1776 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,759 Speaker 3: But I asked you this because you're you're you're fully 1777 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 3: immersed in it, right, And. 1778 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 1: I know you don't champion yourself as like I make beats. 1779 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 1: You're not that guy. That's not who you say you are. 1780 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 3: I remember, man, I was dating a girl years ago, 1781 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 3: and and and I kind of moved into the you know, 1782 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 3: the beat making side of like buying the NPC into her. 1783 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 3: And she was like, and I had I had a condo. 1784 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 3: I bought my first condo. Man, you know what too 1785 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 3: big with you know, so you can hear everything in 1786 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:14,879 Speaker 3: that motherfucker. 1787 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 1: And I would have the headphones on it. 1788 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 3: She would wake up in the morning be like, so, 1789 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,439 Speaker 3: how did like the BENK thing thinking go last night? Oh? 1790 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Sh like the who right? But that's all that's all 1791 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,479 Speaker 1: she could hear though. 1792 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 3: It was like, right, right, whatever, right, But I'm asking 1793 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:42,680 Speaker 3: that though, how do you as a producer, how do 1794 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 3: you explain it to you know, and how do you 1795 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 3: separate or do you even separate even getting that conversation 1796 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 3: because a lot of youngins is like I produced it. 1797 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna had a conversation for real, for because this 1798 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 3: is a good platform and it's all with creators here 1799 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 3: talking about it. So look, everybody produces an my own ways, 1800 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 3: it's not really many. It's so many ways it can happen. 1801 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 3: Now I can speak on my process and my situation. 1802 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 3: So every flip that y'all hear, for the most part, 1803 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 3: is me like, yo, yo, Paul, replay this or whatever. Yo, 1804 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,200 Speaker 3: I love this record. Let's do it like this, but 1805 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 3: instead of it, let's flip it. Let's add a pre 1806 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 3: hook and change and an added and change the key 1807 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 3: on the pre hook or whatever, and come back to. 1808 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: The shit and do the music for me. Blah blah blah. 1809 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 3: They do the music, send it back to me. I 1810 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,800 Speaker 3: love the music because everything he does is firing flames it. 1811 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 3: Then from there I'll be like, shit, who drums work 1812 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 3: on this? 1813 01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 1: Shit? 1814 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,920 Speaker 3: Oh shit cardiac? I think it's got a hip hop feels, 1815 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,760 Speaker 3: got the ball. I think it's just be crazy or 1816 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 3: any other co producers I work with, and then from 1817 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,120 Speaker 3: there they get me to beat. I write the song 1818 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 3: with the person I want to write the song with. 1819 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,480 Speaker 3: I find the artist to get the song too. I 1820 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 3: push the artist to do the song, get. 1821 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:54,599 Speaker 1: Through the song. 1822 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,599 Speaker 3: Then I take the record to Jason Joshua and mix 1823 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 3: it and that's the end of it. 1824 01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 1: Now. If it's something else. 1825 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 3: Like I've also an amazing mixer, is very important. Absolutely, 1826 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 3: you gotta have that shout out to Ruben. You know 1827 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,559 Speaker 3: what I mean, Ruben's in there. You see somewhere around here, 1828 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,759 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. He's grounding right now. Okay, 1829 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 3: but no, but yeah, like please please finish. 1830 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:18,720 Speaker 1: That's my bad. 1831 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,840 Speaker 3: But I wanted to shout these guys out because they're 1832 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:25,519 Speaker 3: they're not always spoken. It's my engineer and Leuess too. 1833 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,600 Speaker 3: So that's one way. Another way is I just have 1834 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 3: creative energy with people. They might send me a beat 1835 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,880 Speaker 3: pack or whatever, and then I'll go and I'll write 1836 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 3: the song and I'll rearrange your beat or whatever and 1837 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,920 Speaker 3: take this and your outro that you had is really 1838 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 3: the intro and it's really the prehoting now and just 1839 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 3: put together a puzzle like that. So I think that 1840 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,679 Speaker 3: real producing to me is. 1841 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 1: You finish it. You start to finish, you in it, 1842 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,480 Speaker 1: from the beginning. 1843 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 3: Of the concept to whether it's a beat that's sent 1844 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,639 Speaker 3: to you and you like, all right, bet well maybe 1845 01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 3: can we change this around? And you get with Tank 1846 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,680 Speaker 3: and you give me j Balleen time you write the 1847 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 3: hit record and then Tank wants it to be hit 1848 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 3: single and not cool. If not, then we give it 1849 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 3: to somebody else. And I got to get them to 1850 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 3: do it. And I mean should I did it with 1851 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,760 Speaker 3: Tank on which I'm mad Atlantic man, a dirty remix man. 1852 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,679 Speaker 3: That shit was super fire man golly. 1853 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 1: But we did it together. We worked on several records together, 1854 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 1: so we know the vibe. Yeah. I think it's it's. 1855 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Good understanding and going in because I think a lot 1856 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 2: of people kind of get lost when it's like a 1857 01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 2: kid that does the beat was like, well, I'm the 1858 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 2: producer on the song, and then you're like, well, that's 1859 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 2: a part of it, you know what I mean. 1860 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Also, when you send it to finishers. 1861 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,040 Speaker 2: Listen, when you send the beat that is nothing and 1862 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 2: then it becomes something because of everything else that's done 1863 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,640 Speaker 2: to it, and even placing for that matter, because you 1864 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 2: go to extra step further. You're not just making a song. 1865 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,640 Speaker 2: You're like, I know exactly where this song should be. 1866 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 1: Then you got to sell it. 1867 01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,240 Speaker 2: You're you're doing You're actually managing now just right. 1868 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,400 Speaker 3: Selling records to artists is very tough, very tough, very 1869 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 3: very tough. 1870 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 1: There's an art to it, yeah, bro. 1871 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 3: The crazy thing is that I fight myself daily about 1872 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 3: this because everything we said is true. But it's just 1873 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 3: a lot of captive this ship, and it's a lot 1874 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 3: of ego shit or whatever. That's also in social too. 1875 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 3: If I dress like Ghazi every day or like Craig 1876 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,799 Speaker 3: Calvin every day nigga and wore the same outfit, no jewelry, 1877 01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 3: no nothing or whatever, and I wasn't out here and me, 1878 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 3: then they wouldn't a coprin't. 1879 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 1: You wouldn't hear no flack. 1880 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 3: It would be the most thing because people want the 1881 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 3: look of it, you. 1882 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying now. 1883 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 3: Being a producer is a thing, like so the look 1884 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,559 Speaker 3: of it. But like I run into situations where it's 1885 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 3: like damn it be like people would be jealous of 1886 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 3: your own success and the blessing that God got on 1887 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 3: you and overlook the fact the door that you opening 1888 01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 3: up for them, so you can't change, you know what 1889 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying, be cause it's like I've been through that 1890 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 3: so many times, not even on a producer a co 1891 01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,120 Speaker 3: producer level, just anybody. 1892 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Man, you know what I'm saying. 1893 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 3: It could be a management it could be you know 1894 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, people you're doing like niggas will be 1895 01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 3: and everybody was so fucked up about being in a 1896 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,360 Speaker 3: position which they don't tell you for you in position 1897 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,240 Speaker 3: that everybody is gonna tell you or what they have 1898 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,800 Speaker 3: an opinion of, skewed thought of. If it was me, 1899 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 3: I would have did this and well nigga waiting tills you, Yeah, yeah, 1900 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 3: especially if a nigga feeding you and got you out 1901 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,720 Speaker 3: like Nigga. Like let's say, not even me. If I 1902 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 3: was a guy that was a co producer or somebody 1903 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 3: that just made beat some program beats all day, like 1904 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,760 Speaker 3: or in a house with my girl twenty four seven, 1905 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 3: and it's somebody that's just like making hit hit after hit, 1906 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't It wouldn't be no way you could talk 1907 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 3: bad about anything about that man, Like hell no, and 1908 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 3: I'm big on I'm not like how it was back 1909 01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 3: in the day, like Bro, I'll let you know, I 1910 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 3: ain't do that. He programmed that beat, I did this that, 1911 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 3: and everybody gets they same credit, you know what I'm saying. 1912 01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 3: So it don't really like it don't rebind me. But 1913 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 3: it's like you don't come across them issues and start 1914 01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,360 Speaker 3: feeling like that to winning, Like I ain't gonna lie 1915 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 3: Like before I came into y'all podcast, like I got 1916 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 3: placked like this big that just came to my crib, bro, 1917 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:20,960 Speaker 3: I'm over one hundred million records. 1918 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:21,679 Speaker 1: Sol Bron. 1919 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 3: Toasted, going from the my fucking concentration camp man for 1920 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,760 Speaker 3: real for nine months. 1921 01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,479 Speaker 1: To have an over one hundred million records. 1922 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 3: So no, cap still look at sitting at my penthouse 1923 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 3: right now, I got to take it. You heard the pinhouse, 1924 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 3: you heard it, you heard it. Not the club, not 1925 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 3: the club, but the house. 1926 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,880 Speaker 1: What's what's the goal right now? Right now? For me? 1927 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,600 Speaker 3: Like it seemed like the when I first started on 1928 01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 3: this hit maker journey, he was like, man, I want 1929 01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 3: to prove so many yggs wrong. 1930 01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,680 Speaker 1: These nigga shit it on me. Yeah, I had that. 1931 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:02,479 Speaker 1: You know what's fun? 1932 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 3: I don't even you know, because we've had so many 1933 01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 3: different moments that we've run across each other and this 1934 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,479 Speaker 3: ship we've been in there for many moons. There was 1935 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 3: a moment in Las Vegas at the at the Palms Hotel. 1936 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,639 Speaker 1: Studios and we were all there. 1937 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,840 Speaker 3: It was us three ENTI dollar sign action and we 1938 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 3: were talking and this was the This was like the 1939 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 3: first time that I had that. Me and you had 1940 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 3: kind of sat down and I was really like, I 1941 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:31,679 Speaker 3: was like, man, I really like this dude. 1942 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,679 Speaker 1: Man. He's a really really good dude. 1943 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,960 Speaker 3: And I remember having a conversation with Tank after I 1944 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:43,360 Speaker 3: said I hope that his revenge don't get the best 1945 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:43,560 Speaker 3: of it. 1946 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:45,439 Speaker 1: I literally said that to him. 1947 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 3: I was like that nigga is so cool because you 1948 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,760 Speaker 3: get all the extra shit. We run into each other 1949 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,760 Speaker 3: and you see a nigga and you and you're like, oh, 1950 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 3: I think he kind of liked this, so I think, whatever. 1951 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 1: This may be. 1952 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,080 Speaker 3: But that that session where we were sitting in there, 1953 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, really like this dude, man, and he's super 1954 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:07,679 Speaker 3: super talented. But in conversation, you were vengeful. Hell yeah, 1955 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 3: you were vengeful. And I remember I remember talenting. I'm like, bro, 1956 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 3: I hoped it. I hope the revenge don't get the 1957 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,479 Speaker 3: best of it, man, because that dude really is talented. 1958 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:16,320 Speaker 1: Bro, I had a. 1959 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 3: Chip, cause you gotta think of all the shit that 1960 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,920 Speaker 3: I went through in the past or whatever it was. 1961 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't because of me. 1962 01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 3: It was because I was putting myself around bad people, 1963 01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, so I took a 1964 01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 3: lot of l's now on the strength of me personally 1965 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:28,760 Speaker 3: being a person that was supposed to have that. Hell, 1966 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,559 Speaker 3: but I'm the the I'm the famous guy, so you 1967 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 3: you hold that ill. So at that point, man, I 1968 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 3: was just like, like in my mind, I was thinking like, man, 1969 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,639 Speaker 3: fuck these nigas, they gonna see I'm the step on either. 1970 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,080 Speaker 3: But now my whole vibe. Bro, this shit is a testimony. Bro, Like, 1971 01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 3: I don't even want to do nothing. It's not about 1972 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 3: holding my own dick and being like I'm the nigga 1973 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 3: and I'm hit making board. I ain't on none of 1974 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 3: that shit. I'm still young berg nigga. I still meet 1975 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 3: people every day. Give them opportunity, nigga. If you it 1976 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,719 Speaker 3: don't matter, I don't care if you black, blue brown nigga. 1977 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,800 Speaker 3: If you talented and you can it flex up and 1978 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,880 Speaker 3: you could work with me in the studio. Every day 1979 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm touching somebody else. 1980 01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm giving people opportunities. 1981 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,160 Speaker 3: All my co writers that I work with, I'm putting 1982 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,599 Speaker 3: them on my singles on my album. 1983 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,800 Speaker 1: It's not about me no more. I'm good. 1984 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,320 Speaker 3: It's about the inspiring the next person. Maybe I could 1985 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 3: put the ball in somebody else's hand, and when I 1986 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 3: decided to stop dribbling, that motherfucker that could pull me 1987 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 3: up circle of success type shit. 1988 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:22,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1989 01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 3: And on a big scale, anybody that's living that's seeing 1990 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 3: my journey, man, they know that this shit is so 1991 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 3: possible as long as you work hard and keep God first. 1992 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,759 Speaker 1: Bro. Yes, bro, Like it's. 1993 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 3: Niggas that dissed me and songs that that that pay 1994 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 3: me top dollars for songs now, but not even like 1995 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,360 Speaker 3: this because like whatever happened, it was a relevant punch 1996 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:57,920 Speaker 3: line in But the way you're gonna stop it and 1997 01:28:57,960 --> 01:28:59,640 Speaker 3: not get your money and go work and do all 1998 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,479 Speaker 3: this other shit because the nigga felt him my way, 1999 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,960 Speaker 3: you have to strip all that ship down, like man, 2000 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 3: and just be like who's next, Like look at this, 2001 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,559 Speaker 3: look at what God blessed me with. Let's not even 2002 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 3: focus on Yeah, let's not focus on no bullshit or whatever. 2003 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Man, Let's be a light. 2004 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 3: Let somebody be inspired by you, let somebody feel like Man, I. 2005 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 1: Could take it there. Yeah, because it's possible. 2006 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,600 Speaker 2: And and I say that to the circle all the 2007 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:31,919 Speaker 2: way back, like the course. Right, we all have a story, 2008 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 2: we all have a gang of l's, but it was 2009 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,920 Speaker 2: all part for the course. And we can do one 2010 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,719 Speaker 2: of two things, right. We can repeat the cycle, or 2011 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 2: we can decide to do better and start a different cycle. 2012 01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 2: And that's what me and this guy is committed to 2013 01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 2: and loving hearing you say that you've committed to that 2014 01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 2: same thing, because that's what's gonna make the difference in 2015 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 2: our culture, not continuing to repeat the cycle where we 2016 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 2: continue to hold each other down and always want to 2017 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,160 Speaker 2: stand on top of each other. Man, I can stand, man, 2018 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,960 Speaker 2: I can stand right next to my brother man and 2019 01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 2: support his shine dance dance when he succeeds. You know 2020 01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, shout him out, like, man, go get it. Man, Listen, 2021 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 2: if we all came, if we're not fighting to pay 2022 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,479 Speaker 2: for dinner, it's a problem. 2023 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 1: It's a problem for sure. That's how it's gotta be. 2024 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,360 Speaker 3: As they would say players don't keep scoring. 2025 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:39,640 Speaker 2: Man, I'm I'm man, that's that's the best thing you 2026 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:40,200 Speaker 2: said all day. 2027 01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,120 Speaker 1: I swear that's real. I'm living in Bro. That's real. 2028 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 3: And it's a different level of maturity, right, it's a 2029 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 3: different level of maturity to say, yeah, like okay, nigga 2030 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 3: got that off. 2031 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,400 Speaker 1: You know what. It's bigger than that. 2032 01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:58,880 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, because it's like even like now, like I 2033 01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,920 Speaker 3: just see the playing in the plot being so bigger, 2034 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,320 Speaker 3: like dang, like you gotta think, Bro. 2035 01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,880 Speaker 1: I went from I'm not gonna say lying. 2036 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,519 Speaker 3: But but speak ill I was technically lying but speaking 2037 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,799 Speaker 3: about being executive on the Breakfast Club and like seeing 2038 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,840 Speaker 3: my life prior to that, like I always looked at 2039 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,240 Speaker 3: the Barry Gordy's and the La Reads and all these 2040 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 3: different people whatever, But now it's like who better to 2041 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 3: be inside a building than me? Like, what are you 2042 01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 3: talking about? I've been the artists. I've been through any 2043 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,760 Speaker 3: the worst thing the artists can go through. I went 2044 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:32,719 Speaker 3: through being canceled before being canceled, Like, I went through 2045 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 3: everything possible, and I'm still one of the biggest in 2046 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 3: the game relevant making music, churning out this shit like 2047 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 3: I had two hundred and twenty seven placements. Yeah, last year, 2048 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,400 Speaker 3: this was the six year six of my run, Like 2049 01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:47,800 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty seven place. This pretty much place 2050 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,599 Speaker 3: in the record almost every day, damn near. Like, but 2051 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,679 Speaker 3: take no we all we do is go to the studio. 2052 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't got no kids, I don't got no other 2053 01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:56,000 Speaker 3: I don't got a job. 2054 01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,439 Speaker 1: This is my job. This is my life. So you 2055 01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 1: can you believe this is your actual job? 2056 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,000 Speaker 3: Like when you look at it and you wake up, 2057 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,760 Speaker 3: you're like, yo, this is really what I get to 2058 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:10,680 Speaker 3: do every day. Like I don't think that collectively in 2059 01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:15,639 Speaker 3: this business we ever truly take those times unless somebody 2060 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,880 Speaker 3: reminds us to say, bro, you get to do this 2061 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:22,760 Speaker 3: every day. This is this is the blessing of all blessings. 2062 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,640 Speaker 3: It is on a big scale like that shit like 2063 01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,360 Speaker 3: it's no way to be replaced or whatever. 2064 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,519 Speaker 1: But that kind of that thought kind of inspired me something. 2065 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,880 Speaker 3: So I'm working for Atlantic or whatever, and it's like 2066 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 3: I'm lost into the sauce and I'm like, man, well 2067 01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:42,280 Speaker 3: you know cuz the deals I had over there Atlanta, 2068 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,720 Speaker 3: like I really win it, Like man, my success and 2069 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,519 Speaker 3: like my people set me up. Everything was Gucci but 2070 01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 3: I realized that they wasn't trying to make me a boss. 2071 01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,519 Speaker 3: They was just wanted the records from me, you know 2072 01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:58,719 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like we cool. 2073 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,800 Speaker 1: And then I was like, damn, Like. 2074 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 3: I was watching everybody else's trajectory and see how people, 2075 01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:05,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, the shit go like this 2076 01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,800 Speaker 3: or whatever like and I was like, damn, well, this 2077 01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,320 Speaker 3: producer or this songwriter kind of took a dip because 2078 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,720 Speaker 3: he only focused on his self. He didn't work with everybody. 2079 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,320 Speaker 3: That's why I was like, I'm not singling myself out. 2080 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm not only working with three niggas. I don't care 2081 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,920 Speaker 3: if I could email or a text or somebody hit 2082 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,360 Speaker 3: me on Instagram. They got some five shit niggas. This 2083 01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,800 Speaker 3: is what we were gonna work with everybody in the game. 2084 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 3: And you know atlantic, I was able to be on 2085 01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,400 Speaker 3: both sides of the fence because like still an artist, 2086 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm still a creative, but I'm in these executive meetings 2087 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,760 Speaker 3: and I'm seeing things and we kind of prod way. 2088 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,960 Speaker 3: We came to a to a part of the ways 2089 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,280 Speaker 3: which we did a damage like several number one records, 2090 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,040 Speaker 3: helld of millions of records together. 2091 01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,840 Speaker 1: And La Reid. 2092 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 3: I met a speaking of La Rea Happy birthday, La 2093 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 3: Read I met. 2094 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:54,960 Speaker 1: I met him and I always looked up to him. 2095 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 3: Tricky Stewart introduced me to him formerly or whatever, and. 2096 01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 1: It's just like so like with me. 2097 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,240 Speaker 3: He was just like, man, you got nigga like this 2098 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,559 Speaker 3: is this is what it is. And he's like, man, bro, 2099 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,920 Speaker 3: I don't even really got it like this or whatever, like, 2100 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,040 Speaker 3: but I want to give you a label deal and 2101 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:13,880 Speaker 3: I believe in you and I want to make sure 2102 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,920 Speaker 3: you get the money. And I'm working for Atlantic at 2103 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,880 Speaker 3: this time or whatever, and they ain't offer me no 2104 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,679 Speaker 3: label deal like I put putting up hits. I already 2105 01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,559 Speaker 3: did number ones for niggas and all types of shit 2106 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,040 Speaker 3: that ain't come to me and say no hi or 2107 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:25,679 Speaker 3: a label deal. 2108 01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,599 Speaker 1: We thinking of that. So La offered to me. 2109 01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,559 Speaker 3: And I loved La and I'm like, man, this nigga 2110 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 3: is amazing, man, like I want to be around this guy. 2111 01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:36,880 Speaker 3: So I go back to Craig and I'm like, hey, bro, 2112 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,599 Speaker 3: La off me label deal. It's like a million dollars 2113 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,320 Speaker 3: or something like two million dollars on signing. 2114 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 1: Let me go get my money, like. 2115 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:50,120 Speaker 3: We are no no fucking out, no way. We love 2116 01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:54,240 Speaker 3: you, your family, we love you. And I'm like, okay, So 2117 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 3: they're like, let's let's let's show you how much we 2118 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,400 Speaker 3: love you. So they came back. They gave me a deal. 2119 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,080 Speaker 3: And the deal, you know, it stopped me from doing 2120 01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 3: business with la you know what I'm saying. And because 2121 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,519 Speaker 3: I was already locked in the Atlantic and the deal was cool, 2122 01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:10,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I took the deal. It 2123 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,599 Speaker 3: was an interesting time or whatever. It was a good, 2124 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,880 Speaker 3: good deal, you know, but it wasn't what I was working. Well, 2125 01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,880 Speaker 3: this this what happened. They gave me the deal. So 2126 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,720 Speaker 3: now I'm in the an R meeting right and they like, 2127 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 3: here comes such and such shit. You know what I'm saying. 2128 01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,320 Speaker 3: Everybody wants to sign this kid. He has a bidding 2129 01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,960 Speaker 3: war all over Colombia's really heavy on him, or a 2130 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 3: republic or anybody or whatever they got. 2131 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:33,880 Speaker 1: They got their. 2132 01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,880 Speaker 3: Offer in now blah blah. He wants he wants nine 2133 01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:42,320 Speaker 3: million dollars. He's got one song. He doesn't have a mixtape, 2134 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,439 Speaker 3: but it's the biggest viral shit in the world. 2135 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:46,680 Speaker 1: So he come in. 2136 01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,880 Speaker 3: He don't perform, he don't do nothing, don't wild me 2137 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:52,880 Speaker 3: and these niggas was really. 2138 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,080 Speaker 1: Sitting there talking about giving him nine million dollars and 2139 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:56,720 Speaker 1: then you realize what your deal was. 2140 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'm like excuse me, Like wait what? 2141 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,960 Speaker 3: And I done sold millions of records out of been 2142 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,280 Speaker 3: here for four years, like we what. 2143 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,080 Speaker 1: This is like the end of my concerts, like three 2144 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,000 Speaker 1: and a half. I did come on man like I 2145 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,200 Speaker 1: did the ones. 2146 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 3: The big records like, and y'all went and told me 2147 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna show you how much we believe in you 2148 01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,759 Speaker 3: and how much we care about you because you're a family, 2149 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,360 Speaker 3: because you've been with us. So from there, I never 2150 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:35,599 Speaker 3: forget this shit. I left the office that day and 2151 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 3: I went back to the hotel and then shit, uh 2152 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:39,799 Speaker 3: the next day. 2153 01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,080 Speaker 1: That the an R meeting can kept. 2154 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,240 Speaker 3: Going, I ain't show up, so like they all calling me, 2155 01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:46,759 Speaker 3: they are like, summon me to the office. 2156 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:47,240 Speaker 1: I go there. 2157 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:50,040 Speaker 3: You know, I was super close with Larrey and I 2158 01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,599 Speaker 3: still love all these people to today because it's nothing 2159 01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,840 Speaker 3: bad about the story. I'm still very successful. It is 2160 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 3: what it is. So they like, what's the issue. I'm like, 2161 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,680 Speaker 3: I don't feel like y'all believe in me, Like how 2162 01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:05,240 Speaker 3: he's supposed to whatever, were breaking down different stuff and 2163 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,559 Speaker 3: they were like, well, what do you want? I was like, 2164 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,719 Speaker 3: if you really believe in me, y'all paying twelve thousand 2165 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 3: dollars a month for me to be in a studio 2166 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:20,519 Speaker 3: without paying my engineer, I want my own studio. Do 2167 01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:25,160 Speaker 3: what La Red did for Tricky Stewart and back when 2168 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,760 Speaker 3: he was on fire, or do what y'all did for 2169 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,599 Speaker 3: DJ Drama or whatever you want to outline it as 2170 01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,800 Speaker 3: believe in me, because I know when Tricky put me 2171 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 3: on game he said, well shit, when La left or whatever, 2172 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,320 Speaker 3: I kept my studio. It was my studio can't take it. 2173 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,080 Speaker 3: So I'm like, believe in me in that type of 2174 01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:44,719 Speaker 3: investing me in that type of manner. 2175 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,080 Speaker 1: It was like how much you think that shit is 2176 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:46,720 Speaker 1: gonna cost? Line? 2177 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,519 Speaker 3: When people was like, oh, four or five more million? 2178 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, to do it in La 2179 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:52,760 Speaker 3: to do it the right way, the way he would 2180 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,559 Speaker 3: want to do it for three million, four a million, 2181 01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,040 Speaker 3: and shit, they were like, all right, mat, we gonna 2182 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 3: get back to you and see how this work or 2183 01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:02,240 Speaker 3: whatever for you, and we're gonna make it happen. 2184 01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,679 Speaker 1: We believe you're our guy. Never made it happen. 2185 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:12,920 Speaker 3: So from there, I was like, damn La read even 2186 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,200 Speaker 3: after I dubbed the deal and I couldn't take the 2187 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:19,240 Speaker 3: million dollars from La. This man somehow turned my million 2188 01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:23,400 Speaker 3: dollars into a song deal and still. 2189 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,840 Speaker 1: Gave me the million dollars wanted to do. Yeah, Like, 2190 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 1: you can't come be a partnership here. 2191 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,679 Speaker 3: I'm still gonna give you the same amount of money 2192 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,479 Speaker 3: I was gonna give you to do that for this. 2193 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a real relationship, you know what I'm saying, Like, 2194 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,639 Speaker 3: Damn this, this, this ain't what I think it is. 2195 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:42,639 Speaker 3: So from there, they never hollered back. And my partner Krishan, 2196 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 3: who's amazing. While I do all my records whatever whatever, 2197 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,400 Speaker 3: we had a group or we still have a group, 2198 01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,280 Speaker 3: and he was like, man, can you see if you 2199 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,800 Speaker 3: could go meet Ghazi or whatever and get us a 2200 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:52,599 Speaker 3: deal with Empire. 2201 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,519 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, So I reached out to Ghazi. 2202 01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,680 Speaker 3: We go up there and Ghazi was like telling me 2203 01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,040 Speaker 3: about different stories in his past and I didn't know 2204 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:03,080 Speaker 3: that he worked with Atlantic. 2205 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:04,679 Speaker 1: That tough too, you know what I'm saying. 2206 01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,360 Speaker 3: That he started all the records and this, that and the 2207 01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 3: third and I was like, oh really. So then once 2208 01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,400 Speaker 3: he got that transparent with me, I got to be 2209 01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,480 Speaker 3: even more transparent with him about my situation or whatever. 2210 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 1: What was going on. And I was just like yo, like. 2211 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,559 Speaker 3: Because they had put my back against the wall, like 2212 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,160 Speaker 3: you don't even understand, Like they had put basically put 2213 01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:28,360 Speaker 3: a bounty on my head, like, oh, you ain't happy, pay. 2214 01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,400 Speaker 1: This number and you can leave or not. 2215 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,240 Speaker 3: And the relationship was already so muddy, you know what 2216 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying. After I I'm like, damn. So I told 2217 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,400 Speaker 3: guysie what the number was. I'm like, bro, like shit 2218 01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,600 Speaker 3: they want They saying I gotta buy myself out with 2219 01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 3: this or give him the money back myself. And I 2220 01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 3: was gonna give him the money back, my dumb ass. 2221 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,880 Speaker 3: But one of my mentors, my ogs, chimed there on 2222 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,840 Speaker 3: me said, nigga, you were in the music, in it. 2223 01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:01,360 Speaker 1: You don't get no motherfucking money none of it. So 2224 01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:02,559 Speaker 1: I said, I've been. 2225 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,360 Speaker 3: And GHAZI was just like, Bro, I believe in you. 2226 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,640 Speaker 3: I thought you was coming up here that asked me 2227 01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,400 Speaker 3: to do a producer album or something like that. I 2228 01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,240 Speaker 3: thought we was gonna do small business. But I believe 2229 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,000 Speaker 3: in you. Here's the compound in San Francisco. This is 2230 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,559 Speaker 3: what I want to do. I'm gonna get you a 2231 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,960 Speaker 3: penthouse here in San Francisco or whatever. You just come 2232 01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,880 Speaker 3: work with us or whatever, and please, bro, like, if 2233 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:24,680 Speaker 3: you would allow us to work together, I think this 2234 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,439 Speaker 3: would be great for us or whatever. And he went 2235 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,680 Speaker 3: and he paid Atlantic Day money back and that's how 2236 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:29,799 Speaker 3: I left Atlantic Records. 2237 01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,800 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow did that I didn't know that nigga. Yeah, 2238 01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,479 Speaker 1: So that that shit heavy on me. 2239 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,920 Speaker 3: So now it's like now the game, like, oh, you 2240 01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,840 Speaker 3: ain't got your studio no more. They was empowering the 2241 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,800 Speaker 3: studio a niggas trying to like put chinks. 2242 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:49,360 Speaker 1: In my armor like Empire. They not knowing the Empire. Damn. 2243 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,360 Speaker 3: There was the biggest company in the game. 2244 01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But it's indie. It's not 2245 01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 1: what I used to be. Whatever. 2246 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:59,240 Speaker 3: There's most people don't understand market shit, bro. So my 2247 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 3: back was getting wall like I would be seeing shit 2248 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,760 Speaker 3: niggas be screenshot and shit like close friends shit. It 2249 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,080 Speaker 3: would be producers I work with and songwriters I work with. Like, man, 2250 01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,120 Speaker 3: this nigga burder fucked up being fucked up. 2251 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:11,280 Speaker 1: He gonna fall. 2252 01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 3: Off after this because we had so much massive success. 2253 01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 3: And then from there I got in with Ghazi. I 2254 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,080 Speaker 3: ain't never gonna lie man. I met Young Blue in 2255 01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,240 Speaker 3: the airport. Young Blue was like, man like, let's work together. 2256 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 3: And you know how you be in the airport, I 2257 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 3: ain't really figured out. I ain't know, I ain't taking 2258 01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,280 Speaker 3: serious or whatever. So we ended up meeting again. We 2259 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,080 Speaker 3: went up there and we was in San Francisco and 2260 01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:33,680 Speaker 3: we was just working. He's like, man, I need to 2261 01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,960 Speaker 3: hit And you know, my first mind, I collaborated with 2262 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:36,639 Speaker 3: Chris so much. 2263 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,519 Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, you want a song with Chris Brown 2264 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:39,080 Speaker 1: is out of here. 2265 01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,960 Speaker 3: It's out of here, nigga, we going number one. So 2266 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,360 Speaker 3: we in there, we cook the hook up, me and him, 2267 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,920 Speaker 3: Blue Ivory, Chris Fown, we did it all together. Then 2268 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,160 Speaker 3: from there I ended up getting Brown on the record, 2269 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,240 Speaker 3: and that was my first one out the gate were 2270 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 3: Ghazi with him Brown and two Chains or whatever and 2271 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,559 Speaker 3: record it's platinum record. It's being the fucking shit. It 2272 01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:00,599 Speaker 3: was one of them reoccurring mom fuck us. That ship 2273 01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,479 Speaker 3: was tops here for forty seven weeks out of the year. 2274 01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:08,920 Speaker 4: Last Yeah, the first one off the hip there we 2275 01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,760 Speaker 4: came with the Peru record after that, and I did 2276 01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,280 Speaker 4: Tink Project and I Tink Ship. 2277 01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:16,040 Speaker 3: She got the most added last week at Urban radio 2278 01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:19,200 Speaker 3: with our record to shout out our business partner too. 2279 01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, shout out to my little brother young Blue. 2280 01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:31,000 Speaker 1: We're back. Family's family man. 2281 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah No, that's that's That's an amazing story, man, an 2282 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:38,240 Speaker 3: amazing path that you've taken. And the one consistent thing 2283 01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:43,599 Speaker 3: is you never stopped making the music, right because this 2284 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:47,439 Speaker 3: is the only industry that any day of the week, 2285 01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 3: any time of the year, you can wake up and 2286 01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:50,400 Speaker 3: hit the lottery facts. 2287 01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,360 Speaker 1: But you just have to continue to do it. And 2288 01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,120 Speaker 1: that and what I found in. 2289 01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:58,760 Speaker 3: My years in the music business is the guys who 2290 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,679 Speaker 3: don't really ever reach their potential of the guys who stop, Yeah, 2291 01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 3: you will have your time. You will have your time, 2292 01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:12,120 Speaker 3: you will have your season. Even some of the guys 2293 01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,400 Speaker 3: that we may not consider to be the most talented, 2294 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,040 Speaker 3: they found their way because they just stayed in it. 2295 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,439 Speaker 1: They stayed at it. And it's just like, yo, you. 2296 01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,360 Speaker 3: Know that record such and such as what's the nice 2297 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:28,160 Speaker 3: record back? Hell no, the mean times I do that 2298 01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:32,599 Speaker 3: a week probably like that's who record? Ah man, that's amazing, bro, 2299 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:36,439 Speaker 3: and we salute it, right, But when guys give up 2300 01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,439 Speaker 3: on it, that's when it's over. Other than that, it's 2301 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:42,479 Speaker 3: never over. Like this is an ageless business. This business 2302 01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,960 Speaker 3: is based on Peter Pan. You know what I'm saying, 2303 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,040 Speaker 3: Like you never got to grow up in this motherfucker. 2304 01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,960 Speaker 3: Like you can make your life whatever you want it 2305 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,320 Speaker 3: to be in this music if you stay true to it. 2306 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:54,800 Speaker 1: And you stay at it. 2307 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,680 Speaker 3: And for that, bro, I just want to salute you 2308 01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 3: for that, because you faced enough right for the average 2309 01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,000 Speaker 3: motherfucker to be like, man, I'm done with this ship 2310 01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:07,800 Speaker 3: like this is, this is and to further go into it, 2311 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,439 Speaker 3: to know that, nigga, you actually come from money. 2312 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 2: You didn't have to do this ship. You could hit any. 2313 01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:19,440 Speaker 3: You and your bobs couldn't just did real estate business. 2314 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,559 Speaker 1: It's not as cool as this ship. Like let's let's 2315 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,720 Speaker 1: be let's let's keep it. You know, this is this 2316 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 1: is the cool. 2317 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,000 Speaker 3: But the coolest part about my ship is that I'm 2318 01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:31,760 Speaker 3: just getting the journey is just beginning right right. 2319 01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:32,479 Speaker 1: You know. 2320 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,679 Speaker 2: It's like you know what happens though when you when 2321 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:43,799 Speaker 2: you hit now now, nothing's off limits, Like your access 2322 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:48,680 Speaker 2: now is unlimited. It's like, oh, I see it's so 2323 01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,479 Speaker 2: much clearer now, and I can do so much more 2324 01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,479 Speaker 2: now with the access that I have. And if they 2325 01:44:55,680 --> 01:45:00,880 Speaker 2: won't do this, but I'll do it myself. That's when 2326 01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:09,000 Speaker 2: you hit a strike. Yeah, we got I don't know 2327 01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:10,120 Speaker 2: how you play this next second. 2328 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how. You know? You know what 2329 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:13,679 Speaker 1: he does? 2330 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,840 Speaker 3: If you if you see, if you've seen what we 2331 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,439 Speaker 3: beyond man like, we got this special segment of the 2332 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:19,040 Speaker 3: show Man. 2333 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,679 Speaker 1: It's called I ain't saying no names. You can't say 2334 01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:27,880 Speaker 1: names Burg, I've seen them. I can't do it. 2335 01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the story can be funny or fucked up 2336 01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:37,480 Speaker 3: or both, but you can't say. 2337 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,759 Speaker 1: The actual names of the people. You can say. 2338 01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,120 Speaker 3: Ship around it that my mother trying to figure some 2339 01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,280 Speaker 3: ship out, but. 2340 01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:50,479 Speaker 1: You can't say their names. Young Berg can't make up. 2341 01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:55,360 Speaker 1: You can't say it was me and niggas somehow. You 2342 01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:02,439 Speaker 1: can't you know what storyigga? What was Jamie? What was 2343 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:05,519 Speaker 1: what was the last guy? Anybody that you don't think? 2344 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,439 Speaker 1: How did? What was it? The Foxes started off a 2345 01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:15,960 Speaker 1: mineral awareness hotel room. This woman doing cocaine, famous actions. 2346 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm not doing cocaine. She's doing cocaine. I'm not because 2347 01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:22,519 Speaker 2: of my religious belief. That's how it starts. 2348 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 3: We need some good man, we know, you know, we 2349 01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:31,559 Speaker 3: need a legendariry him maker, story man. 2350 01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:33,000 Speaker 1: Without the names. 2351 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,519 Speaker 3: About the names, I'm trying to think, man, come tap 2352 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 3: into your ecstasy and ship man, give me half. 2353 01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,000 Speaker 1: What y'all call it a bean? You call the bean? 2354 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never got into the nicknames. I was never 2355 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,800 Speaker 2: Just give me the Just give me the accent. Which 2356 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,040 Speaker 2: color you wan? Bro, Just don't confuse me, just give. 2357 01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:01,639 Speaker 3: Me all right, Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 2358 01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:12,559 Speaker 3: I was at a famous person's house and I was 2359 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,120 Speaker 3: I was working with with a bunch of other famous 2360 01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,280 Speaker 3: people before they were famous. You know what I'm saying, 2361 01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,559 Speaker 3: Like everybody's going to come up or whatever. We in 2362 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:26,880 Speaker 3: Hollywood blah blah blah blah. And the famous person who 2363 01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:31,320 Speaker 3: house it was wanted to have a meeting with me. 2364 01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,759 Speaker 3: So we like I go to the living room or whatever. 2365 01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,280 Speaker 3: But it's another famous person with him. That's a lady 2366 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:44,080 Speaker 3: that's that's giving him a hand job under the covers 2367 01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,800 Speaker 3: of the like he's sitting there on the couch or whatever. 2368 01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:54,880 Speaker 3: But during the meeting, like she's a famous girl like beautiful? 2369 01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:56,519 Speaker 1: Is she looking at you? Like? 2370 01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, she wasn't his girlfriend, the famous girlfriend is also 2371 01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:11,280 Speaker 5: in the house while this is happening too, just floating around. 2372 01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,160 Speaker 1: In the meeting. Yeah, you know what I mean. 2373 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,760 Speaker 3: So he's talking to you though, like how were talking 2374 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:19,200 Speaker 3: right now? 2375 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:24,280 Speaker 1: Boy? He getting a full hand job and contact with me. 2376 01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:28,719 Speaker 1: You are not allowed. 2377 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,200 Speaker 2: You are not allowed to look at me while you 2378 01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:35,599 Speaker 2: are getting a hand job. 2379 01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:38,200 Speaker 1: But did she look at you? No, they was in 2380 01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,400 Speaker 1: their own thing. I think they were on some enhancements. 2381 01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:41,720 Speaker 1: You know. 2382 01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,760 Speaker 2: You can't look at me because somehow I'm feel like 2383 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm part of the inspiration. 2384 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,439 Speaker 1: I don't want it. Yeah, that was wild. Did you 2385 01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:52,280 Speaker 1: get a deal out of that? 2386 01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:59,880 Speaker 3: No, he didn't have to happen. 2387 01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:01,040 Speaker 1: It was whatever. 2388 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,520 Speaker 3: That is the entertainment industry. 2389 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:11,679 Speaker 1: Listen, Ladies and gentlemen, Ladies and gentlemen. I entertank. 2390 01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm Jay Valentine And this has been hit makeup on 2391 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,400 Speaker 2: the R and B Money podcast in phasis on hit 2392 01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 2: make Up, R and bab Moneyney. 2393 01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,280 Speaker 3: R and B Money is a production of the Black 2394 01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:42,960 Speaker 3: Effect podcast Network. 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