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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, sixty, episode

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Speaker 1: four of The Daily Night Guys to production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It's Thursday, November sixty, two days

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Speaker 1: until January. My name is Jack O'Brien, a KA Vaccine, Vaccine, Vaccine, vaccine,

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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton will save us All from COVID nineteen. That

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Speaker 1: is courtesy of Big Keep It Hot Dangs at Hot

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Speaker 1: Dangs on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined by

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Speaker 1: my special guest co host, Jamie Loft a k a.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Floats. It's an Instagram. It works. I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to, but I have. I have no

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Speaker 1: interest in the position, and I think it's weird. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jamie Flotus. Someone pointed out to me the Lotus things

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Speaker 1: are so weird. The Potus flotis Scotus, row up, grow

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Speaker 1: up sucking dorks. Yea, but I mean the olive garden

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Speaker 1: we have. We have an olive garden as our Flotis house,

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Speaker 1: So that is amazing. We have an olive garden. There

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Speaker 1: was like this huge that was that huge celebration when

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was like, they're like, wow, it's our first

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Speaker 1: Italian flotis and everyone's like wow, like the olive garden,

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Speaker 1: the olive garden, lofty. Finally they fucking wanted happy Now

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Speaker 1: when you're here your family with the president, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: all right, and we are thrilled to be joined in

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Speaker 1: our third seat by the brilliant, the talented Joel Smith.

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Speaker 1: All uh oh man, I'm awake. I'm at my computer.

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Speaker 1: The gears are still turning up here in my brain.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna count it as a win. My therapist

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Speaker 1: told me that I have to count all my little

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Speaker 1: winds and I was like, it's really hard. Um, nothing

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Speaker 1: feels like victory, and you like there are victories in there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying. I'm trying to take Dr Sylvia's advice

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Speaker 1: and and find the little victory. So making it work

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Speaker 1: is everybody is anybody else like super tired lately past

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Speaker 1: two weeks, like I've been, you know, tired from just

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Speaker 1: quarantine and being ambient depression, but like I feel like

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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks have been super duper. I've

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Speaker 1: been like exhausted and having a hard time getting getting

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Speaker 1: the old wheels turning. Uh. Yeah, I feel like my

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Speaker 1: brain starts later and stops earlier. It's like by I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of like tweets to this effect

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Speaker 1: that it's kind of comforting. But just like round six

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Speaker 1: o'clock every day, everyone's like wow, times to start winding down,

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Speaker 1: and then they realize it's six o'clock. Yeah. I was

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Speaker 1: definitely in bed by eight last night, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm a grandma. Now that's it, and I'm fine with

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Speaker 1: this transition. Yeah, it's like a throwback to early quarantine.

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Speaker 1: It feels like where it's like you're either in bed

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Speaker 1: by eight or you're up until four. Right. Right, We

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Speaker 1: are going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment, Joel. First, we're gonna tell our

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Speaker 1: listeners just a couple of the things we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We're starting to get some views into what the vaccine

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Speaker 1: rollout plan is going to look like, so we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that. We'll talk about where we're at with the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration, the Trump enablers still claiming fraud, and what

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Speaker 1: happened in Michigan a couple of days ago. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about Trump terminating yet another major member of his cabinet.

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Speaker 1: He likes calling it terminating. We will talk Ben Shapiro,

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Speaker 1: will talk the rise of ambient TV, all of that,

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Speaker 1: plenty more to say. I was I was dreading as

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Speaker 1: I was scrolling through the dock. I'm like, please say

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Speaker 1: that Ben Shapiro's name is not going to crop up

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Speaker 1: on the dock. It's weird because we like held off

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Speaker 1: But I do feel like we really missed out on

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to Yeah, I mean it has to be done.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, we all had to take that l

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Speaker 1: and let that name escape our lips every so often.

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Speaker 1: But my god, the man, the man expert we go

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Speaker 1: to hear about what is to be a man? Um Joel,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 1: who you are? This is so embarrassing. I was to

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Speaker 1: your lovely Daniel before we got on. I have been

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Speaker 1: researching a lot of Pokemon. You know your combinations? How

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Speaker 1: do they work? This is my stress reliever? Now. I

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Speaker 1: just you just catch a Pokemon and if you find

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Speaker 1: it's like the best fake retail therapy because I can't

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Speaker 1: so wait, what are some what are some particularly? What

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Speaker 1: Tell us more. Um, listen for the children out there,

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Speaker 1: slash older adults. You never got out of their child favorites.

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Speaker 1: UM really boosting up my my champ. He's a fighter,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of my elephant, but I

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Speaker 1: this is on switch yes, which again it's just it's

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Speaker 1: amazing stress relief. It's really great when it's late and

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful that I read recently about there was like

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Speaker 1: watched Disgusted at length, but there was like a big

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Speaker 1: Logan Paul has a Pokemon dealer, which is a job

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Speaker 1: then it turned out the Pokemon cards were fake, and

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Speaker 1: like well, the cards about to get here, and they

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Speaker 1: were like live streaming it. They're like the most expensive

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Speaker 1: like regular paper stock that you would get staples. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: was just a pile of printer paper. I'd just like

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Speaker 1: It's on sale. You don't have to for anything. There

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Speaker 1: are no in app purchases, to the best of my knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Just go ahead and save your money, you know, invest

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Speaker 1: make sense. It simply doesn't. Don't do anything that Logan

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Speaker 1: reaching a point where, I mean, we can make any

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Speaker 1: to make a couple more and they won't go through Nike,

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Speaker 1: but you will get the exact same thing, and those

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Speaker 1: are like counterfeit. But it's like what, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: regard to Pokemon cards. That seems like a pretty easy

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Speaker 1: that was like a moment in history, like they printed

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Speaker 1: Like especially the use of a Pokemon card is like

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Speaker 1: So it's bizarre. But you know, I also know people

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Speaker 1: It's a weird cyclical thing. Like we're talking before we

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Speaker 1: a Dunkin Donuts bathrobe like immediately sold out, like everybody

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Speaker 1: Charlie Damelio brought her fucking TikTok base to Duncan Donuts

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Speaker 1: and now they're releasing merch like a sneaker drops, Like

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Speaker 1: Seems to be working. Also, the Charlie Damelio drink has

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Speaker 1: that's so interesting that Duncan Donut. It seems almost random

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Speaker 1: that Duncan Donuts is the brand that like got this culture.

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Speaker 1: Like McDonald's tried really hard with their like Travis Scott

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Speaker 1: So all of that stuff sold out. But then McDonald's

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Speaker 1: evidence they needed, and they kept trying to break into

422
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Speaker 1: this I see you to prove it wasn't full of

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Speaker 1: COVID patients because the parking lots are empty. Um, we're

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Speaker 1: got him. God got their ashes saying people who have

425
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: to go to work, like just bless you because the

426
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: amount of things you have to deal with are like

427
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: from grocery store workers who have to deal with people

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Speaker 1: literally yelling in their face without a mask because like,

429
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: can you please just help keep our store a safe

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00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: space as possible to you? You know, the guys that

431
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: were counting the votes, who had to deal with actual

432
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: death threats to this kind of stuff. It's bonkers. Like

433
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to survive a pandemic. I can't even imagine.

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00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine having to do all this going

435
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: above and beyond. Yeah, I think we might be just

436
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: too dumb for this whole thing. Maybe, so let's let's

437
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: speaking of too dumb for this whole thing. The President

438
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: is still claiming fraud on Twitter that he won Michigan. Um,

439
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the mainstream media has

440
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: chosen to just like kind of dismiss and ignore and like,

441
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: on the one hand, yeah, what were you gonna say?

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00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's like I'm kind of of

443
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: two minds about that. Like, I feel like it's it

444
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: is a better use of the media's time to focus

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00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: on transition team stuff to be But I mean, is

446
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: the media going to be critical enough of a transition team.

447
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: Of course they're not going to be, that's not the thing.

448
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It's like, I feel like ignoring

449
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: him is the uh instinctual Well, finally, great, that makes sense.

450
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: But then I don't know what the what the whatever

451
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: potential backlash factor is for having done that, because in

452
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: a way, that just reinforces Trump's worldview. But I don't

453
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't know. Yeah, I just feel

454
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of counter um, you know, educating

455
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: that needs to be done like that every time he

456
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: claims that there's voter fraud, like that is doing incalculable

457
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: damage to like the people who voted for him, and

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00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: they're like faith in the country and the institutions, and

459
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: that's not going away. And I feel like our answer

460
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: so far has just been to like kind of throw

461
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: up our hands and be like, yeah, I mean, I

462
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to like, I I don't

463
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: have an answer to that. But it's like I was

464
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: reading a article about, you know, people heading into the

465
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: election who are experts on peaceful resistance in like authoritarian cups,

466
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: and they were just like in America, like preparing American

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00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: people to resist if the Trump administration like tried to

468
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: do essentially what it has done. And they it's like

469
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: all the bad things that they were predicting and worried

470
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: about are happening, but we're just kind of like ignoring

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Speaker 1: it and hoping to just sort of power through or

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00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: like yeah, I don't know, Yeah, it's really I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to know like who did trust and

474
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Speaker 1: whose word to kind of take on these topics because

475
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know about you guys. But I

476
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: didn't know very much about coups before two months ago.

477
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: I was not an expert in cou's and like there,

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Speaker 1: it seems like there is still like a fair amount

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00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: of people who are saying it's a possibility and then

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00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: others that are saying, like, it's not going to happen,

481
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: we need to just like move forward. Um, I don't know.

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00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: There was like a fair amount of I don't know

483
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: if you all talked about it on Zeitgeist, but there

484
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: was like a fair amount of controversy with like a

485
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Speaker 1: Van Jones talk that was published where he was like,

486
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: here's how a who's going to happen, and people who

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Speaker 1: know more about who's where we're kind of like, no,

488
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Speaker 1: it isn't. But it ends up I don't know like it.

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Speaker 1: But even so it's it's hard to know whose word

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Speaker 1: to kind of take there because I'm so uh coup illiterate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we we have never experienced one as like

492
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Speaker 1: is that like we can most of us can turn

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Speaker 1: to our parents and be like what did you survive

494
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: or how would we do this or whatever? Um. I

495
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: do feel like the most comforting thing is listening to

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00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: people who have survived cups right because to me, I

497
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like as a as a normal person,

498
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't have very much control over what will happen.

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00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: I can be enraged, I could march, I could donate

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00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: some time somewhere, but it feels like a power very

501
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: much above me and beyond me. And so I'm like, well,

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00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: how if if the worst were to happen, how would

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: I prepare? Like what's the mindset I need to be in?

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00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: And it seems like most people were like, oh, yeah,

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00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: your daily life will not change. You'll be like, oh,

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00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: there was like some fighting over there. There are some

507
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: new restrictions on what I can do at work, but

508
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: for the most part, you're still just trying to survive.

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: Hopefully bread doesn't cost like five grand, and you just

510
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: keep it pushing until until change happens. It's like hearing

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00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: words okay, cool, cool. So you know we're just gonna

512
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Speaker 1: try and make the best step of it as a citizen.

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Speaker 1: Look out for my neighbors, you know, make sure my

514
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: parents were okay, and keep going. I yeah, trying to

515
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: worry or or figure out all of that is a lot.

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00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: But I also think, to your point, Jamie, like nobody

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Speaker 1: truly knows what's going to happen. It seems in the

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Speaker 1: little research I've done that it would not be possible

519
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: for this guy to do it, but that a lot

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00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: of what he's doing sets up an opportunity for someone

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00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: smarter and more prepared to do it in the future.

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Speaker 1: And that's sort of what It's not the next two

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00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: months that scare me. It's the next like eight years. Yeah, yeah,

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00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: just weakening the institutions and like the pillars that our

525
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: entire democracy rests on our being kind of just weakened

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00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: to the point of it seems like it won't take

527
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: very much. And this article, Erica Chenwi is the person's

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00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: name who's like the expert on peaceful resistance. There wasn't

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00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 1: a lot of research on, you know, doing doing the

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00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: numbers of how often peaceful resistance works when there's like

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Speaker 1: an authoritarian takeover, and they went in and did the

532
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: numbers and found that it's like two times more effective

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00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: when the resistors are using peace than if they use

534
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: violence when they're resisting an authoritarian takeover. And Eric at

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00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: Chenewith definitely worth paying attention to. But it just it

536
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: does seem like we just don't have the language and

537
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: the institutions to deal with us, Like the mainstream media

538
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: is certainly not equipped to deal with what I feel

539
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: like Trump's entire you know, strategy is built on combating

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00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: the things the mainstream media does, like how they talk

541
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: about these things, and the mainstream media is response at

542
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: this point has been to just kind of throw up

543
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: their hands and be like, well, we're not covering him,

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00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: we're not talking to him anymore, um, which again, like

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00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's that might be the right

546
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: thing to do. I just it just feels like then

547
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: we have this thing metastasizing in the dark that we're

548
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: not paying attention to, and that's scary, I think from

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00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: a long term perspective. Well, Joel, speaking to your point,

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, like it makes uh, it doesn't

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00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: feel like a present thing for the next two months,

552
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: but I think that, yeah, like what a what a

553
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: lot of us are going to have to do, like

554
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: with ourselves and then with our families or whatever our

555
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: circle is is like you know, not to like be

556
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: like a don't take your foot off the gas, like

557
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: we all know that, but stay like actually educate ourselves

558
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: so that you know this time eight years from now,

559
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: we do understand um what might happen, and we would

560
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: understand how to actively resist it if something happened, um,

561
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: because it makes total sense that the majority of the

562
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: country would have no idea what to do um right now.

563
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's something that we should educate

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: ourselves and and definitely not completely ignore. I feel like

565
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: that's the other end of the of the mainstream media

566
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: problem is that you know, it's great to not be

567
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: reporting on Trump. That is like a huge relief, But

568
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: then on on the on the other end of that,

569
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: I really don't like the tone of like and now

570
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: we're back to normal, and it's like that is it's

571
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: fucking so frustrating where they're like the third Obama administration

572
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: has begun, and you're just like, that's not no one

573
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: asked for that. We need to like talk about ship

574
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: And Yeah, there's definitely a brand of liberal that's just like, oh,

575
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: thank god, everything's good again, Like he's gonna come in

576
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: and so. And I think it's exacerbated by the discovery

577
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: of potentially to vaccines working at everyone's like great, we're

578
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: gonna shoot people up and we're gonna get back to

579
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: work and the economy is gonna bounce back, And it's

580
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: like such a sunny disposition ignoring it's sort of everything

581
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: that happened over the summer and like this whole like

582
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: emotional upheaval we had, and then and then to also

583
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: ignore like there were literally people begging us to stop

584
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: counting votes like that is horrifying. That is the very

585
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: base of our democracy is like everyone gets a vote,

586
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: and they were like, nope, stop counting. Don't like it.

587
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we're definitely going to have to deal

588
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: with so much more of these deeper issues. But it's

589
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: very American of us to be like, well, our big

590
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: problems are solved and we're just gonna have to come

591
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: to the middle on everything else, right, which is like

592
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: proven time and time again almost every administration in our

593
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: lifetimes to be an ineffective solution that doesn't help, Like

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00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: that helps barely anyone. It mostly helps capitalists. Uh and

595
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: and in fact, harms are most disenfranchised typically. I mean

596
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: it's those it's the administrations that gave us the three

597
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: strike rule. I was like, oh, well we'll come to

598
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: the middle. You get three times and then we lock

599
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: you away for life. Like, what the hell, I just

600
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: I feel I'm horrified though, we're going to see a

601
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: lot of those same types of policies coming up again

602
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: as a way to like, we just we just want

603
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: everyone to be at piece as opposed to it's actually

604
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: resolve some of these issues, right. I also, we didn't

605
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: talk about this in the vaccine section, but I also

606
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: kind of I I worry about vaccine rollouts. I know

607
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: that a lot of people do, but I just worry

608
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: about I mean, in the phases being described, I feel

609
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: like there are not frontline communities being prioritized. There's not

610
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: like the phase for all others. Uh. Category kind of

611
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: baffles me because wouldn't you. I mean, I think it

612
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to prioritize frontline communities and

613
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: communities where COVID is most prevalent and where people are

614
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: most at risk. I don't. I hope that Phase four

615
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: gets a little more fucking specific and Phase three as well,

616
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: where they're just like um, all others, because I feel

617
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: like when we say general all others, that means that

618
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 1: I'm picturing a blimp. They're just dropping the vaccines. Yeah,

619
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm like where we just like, I don't know sending

620
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: those creepy Postmates robots to people's doors like the vaccine. Um. Yeah,

621
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I don't trust any American administration

622
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: to do this well in a way that prioritizes communities

623
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: most affected by COVID. And uh yeah, one of the

624
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: big stories that happened just to talk about specifics really

625
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: quickly and just where we're at with the final days

626
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration. So Michigan's date to certify their

627
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: vote came up yesterday or two days ago, and they

628
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: had two Republican like official canvassers who were refusing to

629
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: serve deify what was clearly an okay vote because they

630
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: were being racist. It was an area of Detroit that

631
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: had largely voted for Biden, and they we're using these

632
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: like things about matching signatures to just raise questions. And

633
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: then people were rightly like, this is racist. You're being racist.

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Speaker 1: You're going to go down in history as like having

635
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: just basically disenfranchised a entire community of people for your

636
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: own purposes. And they were like, ah, yeah, good point

637
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: and reversed course. And then Trump was like they've been abused, yeah, yeah,

638
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: and they Trump and the Trump administration are acting like

639
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: that was violence. Just pointing out that their grandchildren will

640
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: know how racist they're um, as opposed to just telling

641
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: them the truth about the consequences of their action. Yeah.

642
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: I love the idea that calling something racist is it's

643
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: the problem and not the actual racist act. And the

644
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: idea that like, oh, we didn't know, we didn't know

645
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: it would be racist to suppress a vote. What Also,

646
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: I could not hold out this long, like I I

647
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: don't want to give you know, Trump the impression that

648
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: anything he does is impressive. But it's wild to me

649
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: that you lost this bad and I'm still like, no,

650
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: several more lawsuits. I think I follow a lawyer in that.

651
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: You guys think there were like one, like there's one

652
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: court case? Was like yes, and twenty five losses for trying.

653
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: It's just I don't have the stamina, the energy, especially

654
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: when we know for a fact that they have no

655
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: money left. It's a little it's a little impressive to

656
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: just be like I will drag this whole society down

657
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: with me. Hell, hath no fury like me angry? It's

658
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: sucking unreal. I mean, yeah, And the way that the

659
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: way that he's talking about Michigan too. It's like you could.

660
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: It's just so I've we've been saying this for years,

661
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: but like it's just so fucking flagrant, Like he couldn't

662
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: be more clear that he's like I'm trying to suppress

663
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: black votes. That's what I'm trying to do, and I'm

664
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: doing it in all caps. Uh. It's just uh. And

665
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: then I I self harmed this morning. I went through

666
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: some replies in under one of the Michigan tweets and

667
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: like it's just it's just like Twitter shell like eggs

668
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: doing bad math and they're they're like there was this

669
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: whole threat I followed that was like, uh, well more

670
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: people because he was saying more people voted in Detroit

671
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: than live in Detroit, which is a single Google away

672
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: from knowing that's not true. And then when people replied

673
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: with that's not true. Here is like the first thing

674
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: that comes up when you search how many registered voters

675
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: versus how many voted, They're like, well, the rest of

676
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: those people are children. And so it was like, I

677
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: don't know, it was these weird Twitter eggs suggesting that

678
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: the population of Detroit is like sixty five children. It

679
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: was just really bizarre. I don't like it's just there's

680
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: no logic to it. It makes my head hurt, and

681
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: it's just cruel and awful and I'm I'm tired. I mean,

682
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: so the the good news is that there is you know,

683
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: we are coming up on the time when uh these

684
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: votes are basically due to be certified, and at that point,

685
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: like Michigan was even three, so they're doing it a

686
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: little bit early. Pennsylvania eleven twenty three, Wisconsin is the

687
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: first of December, so like after these dates, that's like

688
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: when it's due. Georgia is the so that's in two days.

689
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Arizona ist um. Once those have been certified, they really

690
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: don't have like I think a lot of people think

691
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: it's purely theoretical at this point, the idea that these

692
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: are going to be reversed, But as we saw with

693
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: those canvassers, like, it's not purely theoretical. So you know,

694
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: these are all looming deadlines that once we get past those,

695
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: if we get past those, the country will I guess

696
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: be in better shape. But again, it just it won't

697
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: change the fact that they are doing the the absolute

698
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: most to exhaust us, to just tear down the fabric

699
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: of UM, the good parts of the country. Um, it

700
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: really is that I'm finding it more and more exhausting

701
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: dealing with the whole they accuse us of doing the

702
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: thing that they're doing, like the Kayleie mcnahney saying that

703
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: telling people to wear masks around Thanksgiving holiday is Orwellian

704
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: and then them saying that it's like violent and racist

705
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: to call someone racist. It's so frustrating. Yeah, maybe that's

706
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: why I'm tired. May like, how do you have these two?

707
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Like I there are, to the very best of my knowledge,

708
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: no Trump supporters in my family, so I haven't had

709
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: to have like any of these challenging conversations of like

710
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And look at what you're but

711
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know how Like I used to be,

712
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: like back in a prop eight world, I was like, yo,

713
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: make sure you talk to your family members about this,

714
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: like if you're a queer, you know you can explain

715
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: it and just to talk to them about why these

716
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, I don't even want to throw

717
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: somebody in that fire because having seen some of these

718
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: people try to like debate online with their neighbors or

719
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: family or whatever, Like I don't know how to have

720
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: that conversation if you're absolutely disinterested in listening to anything factual,

721
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: like a cloth over your face. It's not like or

722
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: well Ian what it's Yeah, it's like the why are

723
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: you hitting yourself defense? But they're not even like using

724
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: our hand to hit ourselves. They're just hitting us and

725
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: then saying stop hitting me. It's it's the real mind

726
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: fuck that's exhausting. Like we're taught like it sounds exhausting

727
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: to have to rewire your brain in that way. Yeah, yeah,

728
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: it's I don't I I don't know. I had a thought,

729
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: but it's gone now. I actually felt envy for the

730
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: people in the book because I was like, wait, so

731
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: we're well I and let me just like look at

732
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: what she could possibly But it's it's much easier to

733
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: combat in that book because they aren't doing the thing

734
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: like big brothers, not being like you're a big brother

735
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: in me Like it's it's just like a big camera

736
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: at Yeah, all you have to do is just be like, no, look,

737
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: this is the thing they're doing. But it's the saddest

738
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: description of our current timeline. Just like, God, what if

739
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: we were welly and I thought it would be a

740
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: lot easier to deal with. Yeah, it's just more straightford

741
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: that I do. I mean it does. It's it's because

742
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: it's like most it's such it's such a daunting task

743
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: that requires a level of empathy that I personally would

744
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: not really demand of anybody. Uh, but the like de

745
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: radicalizing someone's mind after living in that mindset and just

746
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: like doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on just like complete bullshit

747
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: for this. I I really hope that there is like

748
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: some sort of de radicalization movement that takes off that

749
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, leave me out of it,

750
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: you can go. But but I I I'm curious, it's

751
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: like what is the long game? Like once Trump is

752
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: out of office? What is the long game for? Like

753
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: what what what happens when no one is stoking that

754
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: every single day and validating it and what yeah, where

755
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: does it go out office? I think it's when Trump

756
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: is no longer on the planet, Like to be honest,

757
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: like I just think that he is going to be

758
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: uh a powerful like basically anti universe president, like president

759
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: anti like bizarro world president where he's like still universe.

760
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: That's a really dystopian prise, like an antimatter version of

761
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: the president where like everything the president does, he will

762
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: have a take that is the opposite of that and

763
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: undermining it in some way, Like I think he he

764
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: is going to continue to be a problem for anybody

765
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: in this country for as long as he still has

766
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: a public platform in terms of things he's doing in

767
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: his official capacity. Just terminated the head of terminated. Uh.

768
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: He no longer is firing people. He's terminating them because

769
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: he's a he's strong and powerful. Uh. The head of

770
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: cybersecurity for not going along with his coup and for

771
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: saying that the election actually happened the way it actually did.

772
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: And people are worried for Iran UM And you know,

773
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: we mentioned yesterday that people are worried Trump was going

774
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: to attack Iran and was firing people and promoting people

775
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: based on like just how loyal to him they were.

776
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: But then the sort of people were saying, oh no,

777
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: the military leaders in America aren't going to let him

778
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: do that. But now people are pointing out that Saudi

779
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: Arabia and Israel's leaders are like just as likely to attack,

780
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: and then you know, draw America into that conflict because

781
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: they see this as like their last best opportunity to

782
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: start a conflict with Iran, while Trump is still you know,

783
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: capable of marshaling his very anti Iran, is there any

784
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what do we know what the likelihood of

785
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: that moving forward is? Uh, there's indicators that like they

786
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: are preparing for, like I think Israeli forces has attacked

787
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: Iranian forces in Syria. But it's yeah, we just don't

788
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: we don't really know, but it's definitely something that uh,

789
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: international security experts are watching and concerned about. Um. So

790
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: that's awful, completely fucked. Yes. Yeah, does dung and dunets

791
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: have like slippers? No? I wish they did the tan.

792
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: The tandem bicycle is the most baffling and cursed item. Uh,

793
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen a tandem bicycle that looked like that.

794
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: I was shocked at the price, but then I asked

795
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: you both, and you said, it seems kind of like

796
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: a normal price for a tandem bicycle. Although once I

797
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: said that phrase out loud, I'm like, why would I

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00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: know what that number is? I have no idea. Yeah,

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00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: I also don't think I trust anyone enough to mount

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00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: a bicycle like that. I would just get pregnant on

801
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: the bicycle. That's what I would get it for. You

802
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: asked us because Joel and I used to between in

803
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: pre COVID times you ride around on it isn't how

804
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: you met. Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, suposed to a Facebook

805
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: group looking for a tandem biker. That's the release, nothing

806
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: weird message meet. All right, let's take a quick break.

807
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: We'll be back, and we're back. Should we talk about

808
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro. I guess we should mention the Ben Shapiro

809
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: controversy and quotes. I'm just I like that he's being

810
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: like launched out of a canton out of Glendale. That's

811
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: a very like or I don't know that what's happening.

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00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: He had a he had like a h an office.

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00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the office, but an

814
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: office for whatever His dweepy little fuck company is uh

815
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: in Atwater Village nearer where we all live, and he

816
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: he kind of it sounds like he didn't feel welcomed

817
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: and he's like Joe Rogan moving to Texas, probably to

818
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: avoid paying more taxes. But it also sounded like he

819
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: really couldn't walk down the streets near his his office

820
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: without getting fucking like roasted at every turn. Shout out

821
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: to Atwater Village for launching Ben Shapiro out of a

822
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: cannon and sorry to Texas because I think that you're

823
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: getting your being burdened with Ben Shapiro. But I'm pretty

824
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: sure that there is like kind of a move for

825
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: like devious capitalists like uh like Ben Shapiro. And to

826
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: an extent, people always fucking dragged me every time I

827
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: say this, Joe Rogan, who who moved to Who moved

828
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: to Texas? Because the I think it's either income or

829
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: property taxes that are significant. With us, there's no income taxes,

830
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: So that's why Joe Rogan went there, even though he's like, no,

831
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: you guys, I just really love it here. I love

832
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: it here, all right, sir, I'm I'm reading. I keep

833
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: referring to this book I'm reading about the Bush family,

834
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: but like Texas, straight up Texas a bad place. What

835
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: one of the little details that I just learned is

836
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: that the guy who owned the Texas book depository that

837
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: Oswald shot Kennedy from actually had the window from that

838
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: he shot him from removed and moved to his home

839
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: as like a thing to celebrate, Like what, oh my god, yeah, shp,

840
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: that is horrific. And even if you were to Kennedy supporter,

841
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: Like it's what I'm talking It's one of the most

842
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: awful like things to view on tape, Like just the

843
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: chaos and the horribleness of the act and then what

844
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: that's really disturbing? Fucked that's like, holy sh it. Yeah,

845
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: all of these people are in some way tied back

846
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: to George Bush, George H. W. Bush. So Lacey Mosley

847
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: the only good person to ever come out of Texas

848
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: sound off in the comment anyways, Ben Shapiro got mad

849
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: that Harry Styles is wearing a dress on the cover

850
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: of Vogue and claimed that masculinity was under attack. Uh,

851
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: he is, Ben Shapiro knows how boring he is? Is

852
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: he aware that? Like it's either he's not aware at all,

853
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: or he's so aware and he can't stop thinking about it.

854
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: It is a piece of clothing, And if your masculinity

855
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: is threatened by a dress, it is truly fragile. Like

856
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: the idea that seeing another dude in a quote unquote

857
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: female garment is now all men camp that what does

858
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: that even mean? Like it is you could have a

859
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: whole array of genders and just pick and be really

860
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: comfortable in your own subset and let everyone else just

861
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: live their lives, Ben Shapiro, and yet here you are.

862
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: I said it at a fashion cover, which I don't

863
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: even know if Harry Styles lves wearing dresses or if

864
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: his pr person was like listening, people are gonna love

865
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: this and he was like cool whatever. Uh, It's like

866
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: it's it's hardly a statement at all from Harry and

867
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: so for you to get riled up over it, he

868
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: just looked damn foolish. There, Prince did it in the eighties.

869
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: Rock bands were doing in the seventies. This is old.

870
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: It's so I'm pretty sure Harry Styles has a history

871
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 1: of of dressing kind of Uh what am I trying? Yeah,

872
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: he has done this for a while, and I'm like,

873
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: first of all, why are we still like I feel

874
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: like he's been doing this for years. Leave him alone.

875
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: And on top of I mean, it's just like Ben

876
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: Shapiro is just so fucking pathetic where he's like just

877
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: coming off like, you know, just coming off complaining about

878
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: the wetness of various pussies for like three consecutive months.

879
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: The medical condition of that is still maybe of the

880
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: few would call the cops. If it was I would

881
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: call the cops. I mean, that's dangerous. That clip is

882
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: iconic in all the wrong ways. But like the fact

883
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: that he went to the mat on the wetness of

884
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 1: pussies and demonstrating that he has no idea how they

885
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: work in the process. Just Chef's Kiss really incredible stuff. Um,

886
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: I honestly did. I couldn't even bring wayself to watch

887
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: whatever the funk he said about Harry Styles. The good

888
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: news is that Harry Styles for sure doesn't give a

889
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: ship all of Yeah, all of Harry Styles is fans

890
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: like he has a very like young fan base and

891
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: they don't give a ship with Ben Shapiro says, so

892
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: it's like, what are you even You're just saying things.

893
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: I kind of wish I kind of wish they like

894
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: did too, Ben Shapiro, what like K pop fans have

895
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: been doing to like right wing and authority terry in

896
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: like trolls. Uh, But yeah, I think they just like

897
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: don't give enough of a ship, which is with it

898
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: well within their right to not give enough of a ship.

899
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I don't know. Dressing, It's just like

900
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: it's so Harry Styles is dressing ambiguously. Men have been

901
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: doing this for centuries. It's so like the even the

902
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: kind of masculinity that Ben Shapiro is referencing is like

903
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: historically pretty new and like just so rigid and fucking

904
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: boring and shut up. I don't know. But he also

905
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: doesn't like fall into that category of masculinity. Like if

906
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: we're going to look at the falsified, like pumped up

907
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: version of masculinity, al see Ben Shapiro anywhere in the category. Right,

908
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: You're not there, buddy, Um, yeah, thanks, Um, let's talk

909
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: about ambient TV. There's a Yes, there's a piece that

910
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed in the New Yorker. They've written you

911
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: up before, Jamie. You might have heard of them the

912
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: New Yorker. Um. They they were writing about Emily in

913
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: Paris and kind of how their description of Emily in

914
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,959
Speaker 1: Paris was very dystopian. But they overall we're saying that

915
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: it reminds them of like the rise of ambient music,

916
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: like the Briany No Thing, where he made music that

917
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: um he considered as ignorable as it is interesting. Um,

918
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: and like that these TV shows are basically designed to

919
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: be background music, like nothing. The plot is incredibly thin

920
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: on purpose, like so that you can miss half of

921
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: it and still just kind of have a sense of

922
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: what's going on. I've always used sports this way, like

923
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: as a thing that you can just have on in

924
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: the background and not really pay any attention to. UM.

925
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: And evidence of that is like I can have sports

926
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: on and my kids don't give a shit about it

927
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: because like won't suck them into a TV comma, like

928
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: literally everything else is because it's bad television. UM. But

929
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: they're making the point that this whole movement, like they

930
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: were talking about other Netflix reality shows that, um, like

931
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: The Taco Chronicles, Dream Home Makeover, they really go in on.

932
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that, but apparently very bland. I yeah,

933
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't. Joel, did you watch any of Emily in Paris?

934
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 1: I got being watched Emily in Paris. Let me talk

935
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: about it, Okay. I love UH And we call AMI television.

936
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: My crew calls a depression TV, which is like I

937
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: can't afford to get emotionally infested in anything right now,

938
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: Like the world is already too much right but I

939
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: need something on the TV because then otherwise I'm just

940
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: alone with my thoughts and I don't want that either.

941
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: That's not a good recipe for me to get through

942
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: this evening. So Emily and Paris. No, definitely not a

943
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: great show. I don't know what's happening with any of

944
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: the fashion in there. It's a hot mess. I don't care.

945
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: You're like, where years, who did this and why? I

946
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't care about any of the characters.

947
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: I was surprised anyone could like develop a heated emotional

948
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: reaction to it, because there's a lot of discourse and

949
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: they're like, Emily is so rude for going to Paris

950
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: and shoving her American ways in their face, and like

951
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: that's literally the plot of the show, like that. You

952
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: should have tuned that after episode three. But it was

953
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: perfect for me because I was just like, Okay, it's

954
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: just there and I can be on my phone scrolling Twitter,

955
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: which is what I really want to be doing anyway.

956
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: But it's not silent, and it's great. I really feel

957
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: like we perfected this TV in the nineties. Friends peak

958
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: Friends is peak depression TV. It's peak ambient television. Nobody changes,

959
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: nobody grows, nothing changes about the status of anyone's relationship,

960
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: whether they're together or not, it doesn't matter. It's just bland,

961
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: blank slate. And I think that there's really truly value

962
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: in this kind of television. What bothers me is when

963
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: we try to either escalate it or de escalate, and

964
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: we try to escalate it into something more than it is,

965
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: which is really what I think what happened to Emily

966
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: in Paris. I think we were bored and we're like,

967
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: I can rag on this show wonderful, but it's a

968
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: vital aspect to my life. I really enjoy um. I

969
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: think Great British Bake Off maybe have a little more

970
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: emotional steaks in it for some people, but mostly it's

971
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: just nice people baking awesome. They're really sorry when they

972
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: have to let someone go excellent. Anything that's not gonna

973
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: bring me up too high or down too low, that's

974
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: exactly what we're looking for. It's literally yet I feel

975
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: like depression TV. It was nice of them to call

976
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: it ambient truly, but but it it is like it

977
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: feels like, I mean, even like great depression media, where

978
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: you're like, this is about nothing and everywhere it's it's pleasant.

979
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: You don't feel like you're going to turn around and

980
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: something horrible is going to be happening, like if you

981
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: were watching, for example, The New is like it's just

982
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: it's just my I really hope that I had like

983
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: a very abrupt fantasy what I saw this piece about

984
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: ambient TV, and it's that the creator of Emily in

985
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: Paris releases a like scathing response, being like, how dare

986
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: you say Emily in Paris was about nothing? In many ways,

987
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: it was about everything. I just had no idea it

988
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: was a really bad TV show. This is how they

989
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: found out that it was only number two because everyone

990
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: was so sad. Oh my god. This is how I

991
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: feel about Like Netflix has really perfected the algorithm right

992
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: of making a show that you don't necessarily have to

993
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: be invested in. But it's like, I love the way

994
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: they like John like their new show Jingle Jingle. It's

995
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: like if you were sort of into high school musical,

996
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: but you want some black representation in your Christmas shows,

997
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: and you know you like a little bit of comedy,

998
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna laugh too hard because that's not

999
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 1: what we're doing here. Perfect. It's so straight down the middle.

1000
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: You can watch it with your conservative family and no

1001
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: one's gonna fight. Listen. It's genius, it's necessary. And then

1002
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, every once in a while you get a

1003
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: Queen's gambit and you're like, cool, great, something I can

1004
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: actually think my teeth into when I'm in the mood

1005
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, we need like seven hours of

1006
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: ambient television to get through whatever the next like eight

1007
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: months is going to be before we can re emerge

1008
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: into society. I enjoyed. Yeah, Julian and the Phantoms was fun.

1009
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: That was like, I feel like a cute underrated show

1010
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: that was like very high school musical e but like

1011
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: it's it's just cute, cute ship. I like cute ship

1012
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: that isn't gonna remind me of my mortality exactly. Yeah,

1013
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: that's what's on the menu. Yeah. The point that they

1014
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: like their description of ambient TV is kind of that

1015
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: it it basically crowds out the noise in your mind

1016
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: and just like makes everything feel like like go dound

1017
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: smooth basically like smooths out. Like where whereas when we

1018
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: first had like streaming tving, you could like choose a

1019
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: show to watch and it would be like a show

1020
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: that like was engrossing and that was what we valued.

1021
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: Now it's more just like here is a time portal

1022
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: to uh an hour from now in the future. You

1023
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: just put on your like open up Netflix and put

1024
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: this show on and you'll be in the future, which

1025
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: is kind of a dark way to think about human

1026
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: existence at this voice. I also have found comfort in

1027
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: like all these I feel like I talked about them

1028
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: all the time now, but like these YouTube channels that

1029
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: are like by funny people who are based They're talking

1030
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: about nothing. They're talking about like Pokemon card scandals for

1031
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, and you're just like, oh, this is

1032
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: just engrossing enough. I don't really need to listen, but like, good,

1033
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: good for them for caring. Like I don't know, it's

1034
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: just it's nice and it feels not horrible. That's what

1035
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: I mean when I say nice. Yeah, they they highlight.

1036
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: TikTok is the ultimate in ambient TV because it just

1037
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: is a stream of kind of passive, you know, unremarkable

1038
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: videos that just go down easy. It absolutely depends on

1039
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: what videos you're enjoying on TikTok. I could go a

1040
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: lot of way if your stream is just those like

1041
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: five Dance moved dance things, and sure, sure ambient and endless,

1042
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: but there some people are being creative and some people

1043
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: are being very weird, and some people are being you know,

1044
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: weirdly political. Uh yeah, I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say,

1045
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: go to TikTok looking for your ambient television fix. Um.

1046
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: But I do think that it's not streaming issue either.

1047
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame this on I'm like, oh, this is

1048
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: what streaming has come down to now. I think it's

1049
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: absolutely just a sign of the times and the fact

1050
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: that people cannot engage. Like I started watching Home and

1051
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: catch Fire, which is sunning, it's such good television. I

1052
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: got three season one and then I'm like, oh man,

1053
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: they're really doing with some real life issues here. I

1054
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: want to put some backburner around to it later, like

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, financial crisis coming up. I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: no back out of it. Um. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: if we were watching on network, and to be fair,

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Speaker 1: let's look at what networks are coming out with right

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Speaker 1: now in the middle of the pandemic. We've got two

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Speaker 1: versions of the mass singer. One that's just lip singers

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Speaker 1: where they're trying to see if you're the actual person

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Speaker 1: singing or not. This is the content we need to

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Speaker 1: get through, and I really think TV is doing a

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Speaker 1: good job for us, even if it's not intellectually stimulating.

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Speaker 1: There's too much to do. We don't need to be

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Speaker 1: any further intellectually stimulated. At this point, did we talk

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Speaker 1: about do we ever talk about Mickey Rourke on The

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Speaker 1: Masked Singer? We have a big mask Singer blind spot.

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Speaker 1: I am here to say I stop, I'm behind on

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Speaker 1: Mass Singer. I'm not gonn say I stopped watching this season,

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Speaker 1: but I had to stop watching after I got to

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Speaker 1: Mickey Rourke episode because it was so good that I'm like,

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Speaker 1: nothing is going to top this for me for months.

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Speaker 1: So what happened was this It's still so funny. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So it's like the first round of Mass Singer, which

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01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: takes like four weeks, but they bring out a celebrity

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Speaker 1: dress like a big purple gremlin and he sings, oh

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Speaker 1: what did he sing? Whatever he's saying, he didn't really

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Speaker 1: know the words, uh, and it wasn't good and the

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Speaker 1: whole panel couldn't guess who it was. Nick Cannon gets

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01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: up on stage to have people guess, and then whoever's

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01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: inside the Grimlin is like no more, no more, I'm

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01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: like d He quits The Masked Singer after his first performance.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: He knows he's gonna lose. He rips off the Gremlins head.

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: It seems like it was. I mean, it might have

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01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: been preplanned, but Nick can't. If so, best acting performance

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Speaker 1: of Nick Cannon's life, because he was like, wait, you

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: can't you can't take, you can't quit. He unmasked himself.

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Speaker 1: It was Mickey Rourke. Everyone lost their ship and he

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01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they asked me to be on and

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01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: I watched two or three episodes and I said why not?

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: But this costume is really heavy and I want to

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01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: go home, and he just left all of us. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I did not know how it went down. I just

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01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: saw the red feel on Twitter the same night, right,

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: so I just Mickey Rourk's tiny head, his head not tiny,

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: but in a giant zooey looks small and he's covered

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01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: in like purple fuz and he's like a little sweaty,

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: and I'm like, how did they get Mickey Rourke to

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01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: come on this show? And that to me was a

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: funny part, but knowing that he was just like, oh, no,

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: I have about today. It's so much sweeter. It's it's

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01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: everything I think everybody wishes they could do. It's just like,

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01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: you know what, no I'm taking this human steam off.

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01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: I have to go home now. I had no idea

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01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: it was his first performance. It was it was his

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: first performance and he unmasked himself. It was I'm shy.

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01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of ship going on.

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01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: It was peak election stuff going on, so I feel

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: like it really slipped under the radar, but there's clips

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01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: of it online. It was like, truly the best television

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: I've seen in a really long time. Listen at the

1113
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: Heart Studio. We have Snicky's text or infamous from the

1114
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: season on the wall on a giant flag, and now

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: I really feel like we need Dad Macky Rourke with

1116
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: his head off, you know, just hey, I'm right there.

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: It's it's iconic tvel television. That is amazing. Is that

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: great of television? He because when you just hear the

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01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: voice escaped, like right before he rips the gremlin head off,

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01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: he goes no more, no more, It's the greatest clip

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01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: you'll you'll ever watch. It's like pure Sarahtonin. Apparently Netflix

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01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: is trying is going to try to be like a network.

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 1: They're going to do like a streaming, like a linear

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01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: version of Netflix. So, uh, that's interesting to me. Wait,

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: like wait, Like you just turn on Netflix and there's

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01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: something on everybody watching. So this is something I've somewhat

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: been asking for, and I think it absolutely feeds into

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01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: the ambient depression TV conversation of like, I don't want

1129
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: to have to make a choice. I came here to

1130
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: put something on the TV and walk away. And if

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01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: you're like me, there's you have like five shows in

1132
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: rotation that you're like like me, It's the King of

1133
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: the Hill, Like, I guess I can watch more of

1134
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: that any time. I will absolutely do some more. Bob's

1135
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: Burger's Girlfriends is on somewhere, the Game Crazy Drama. So

1136
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: I feel like, but I still think I don't understand

1137
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: my no streaming services listening to the internet, because the

1138
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: Internet has been begging for playlist style streams for ever.

1139
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: What if I just put all five of my shows

1140
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: in there and you just shook it up and were like,

1141
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: here's episode five from season six and I just watched that,

1142
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: Like that is honestly the dreams I don't dress Netflix.

1143
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: Netflix is going to do what any smart business person

1144
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: would do, which is like, here's our new show. We

1145
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: hope you get hooked you in I don't want to

1146
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: watch you a new show. I don't watch something I

1147
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 1: watched eight thousand times, so I don't have the anxiety

1148
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: of having to figure out what's going to happen next.

1149
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: I just want to know. Yeah, they will totally suck

1150
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: it up though, Like you're just like I did not

1151
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: want to watch The Holidate and you know that you

1152
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: knew that, And now in forty five minutes into it

1153
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: because I couldn't find the remote and I'm hooked. God

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 1: damn it. Just a p s A to everyone. You

1155
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: don't need to watch The Holidate. I took that out

1156
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: for us all. It's not worth it. I think you

1157
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: about watching Jingle Jingle and just doing like a live

1158
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: tweet of it because the fact that it's named it's

1159
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: not named after the drug that's on the arch series

1160
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: Riverdale on the CW, but it does share the same

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01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: name Jingle Jingle and Yeah and Riverdale Jingle Jingle is

1162
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: like they're hard drug. It's like the heroine of Riverdale.

1163
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: It's terrible, but it's sunny. They boxed a bear in prison,

1164
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: Jack that someone brought a bear into a prison, put

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: it in a boxing ring and then had one of

1166
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: the stars fighting like the show was unhinged, but in

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01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: the best possible way. I just I'm curious, like if

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01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: there is any correlation between the Joe Jingle Jangle and

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:32,879
Speaker 1: River Deal and Jingle Jangle, the comedic hip hop musical

1170
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: Christmas Special on Netflix. I feel like there's gotta be

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: some good media discourse in there somewhere. I was in

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01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: on Jingle Jangle the second I learned Forest Whittaker's character

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: was named geron Kiss Jangle, I was like, Okay, I'm

1174
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna watch that. The trailer alone is enough. The trailer

1175
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: is like I have to uh kicking Michael Key plays

1176
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: the villain, and like, what in what world is there

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: a series or single? It's a movie a movie. Okay,

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm already watching it right now. Joel, it's

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: been a pleasure as always having you on the daily

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01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 1: zite guist. Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah,

1181
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 1: you can find me all over the internet at Joel Monique.

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Speaker 1: It's j O E L L E M O N

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Speaker 1: I q U E. All right, And is there a

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01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?

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01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so beamon which is b E y

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: m A and it's either two eyes or two exclamation points.

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01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: Who knows. Listen. She tweeted four photos of Megan the

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01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: Stallion from when she was in college. Megan dressed every

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01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: day like she was a lawyer, full suit, set of nails,

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: gold watch, hair together she's in college. I was like,

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01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: if Megan the Stallion isn't the absolute inspiration for just

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01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: get your stuff together in the hard times. Woman lost

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: her mother and her grandmother in the same year that

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: she goes double platinum. I am obsessed with her and

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01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: her career and her moves and the way that she

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01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: just constantly surprises everybody. And seeing her in her early forms,

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: seeing how together it was, I was like, this is

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01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: this is where we need to be. Oh yeah, I

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: just pulled up the pigs. I'm like, yeah, she Holy

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: sh it. That was that was just going to class.

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01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: I was in sweats together. She's the best. Jamie, where

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01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: can people find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh?

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus, help Instagram,

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: Jamie christ Superstar and a new podcast coming out starting

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01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: on Monday called lolit To Podcast. Yes Who It's Depressing

1206
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: it's about the kind of like the journey of all

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01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: the adaptations of Lolita that have been done over the years.

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: So you can subscribe to that and today or tonight

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 1: tonight when this is airing, if you're interested in learning

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: more about homelessness during the pandemic, I'm going to be

1211
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: hosting along with the Celia Neighborhood Homeless Coalition, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a webinar tonight where I'm gonna be talking with

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Speaker 1: Theo Henderson, who is an unhoused advocate, as well as

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Speaker 1: Genevieve Ling and Matt Tinoco. And even if you don't

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Speaker 1: live in l A, it's an awesome panel and group

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01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: of people, and you can learn more about exactly how

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Speaker 1: poorly the unhoused have been treated throughout this pandemic and

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01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: what you can do to um take action to first

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01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: help in a direct action way, and also the most

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: effective ways to um bully your representatives into actually fucking

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: doing something about it. So that's also I'll keep posting

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Speaker 1: that to Twitter tweet. I like is from my friend

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Speaker 1: George Severies at George Severes UM. I wonder if this

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Speaker 1: will make sense when I read it out loud. Okay, Fiser.

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Speaker 1: It's just me against the music, Maderna and me does

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Speaker 1: that it does and I do so thank you. It's

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Speaker 1: good a tweet I've been enjoying. Street Car tweeted, my

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: calculator app just released a new feature and it's like

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01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: a circle of his avatar at the top of the

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: calculator on the calculator app on his phone, like the Twitter.

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01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that speaking of things that don't work

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: as a description, but basically that all apps are doing

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01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: the stories thing. And Mike Leffingwell tweeted, whoa, this whole

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Speaker 1: season of The Crown is just Queen Elizabeth the Second

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01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: being pissed about her portrayal and naked gun my Second

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Speaker 1: The Crown related tweet that I've called the people's attention

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Speaker 1: and I don't watch that show, but season four I'm not,

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01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: but I like, I like the idea of that. And

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: then somebody asked, who plays Jeffrey Epstein in the ground? Um.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien.

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01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

1242
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1243
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: fan page and a website. Daily zycheis dot com, where

1244
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: we post our episodes. In our footnotes, we link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about today's episode, as

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: well as the song we ride out on today. We're

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01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: going to ride out on Jamie's recommendation, which is Mickey

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01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: Rourke's performance on the mast singer Um It's laps. It's

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Speaker 1: really good and we will will listen to it to

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Speaker 1: the second that as we ride out the daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: at production of by Heart Radio. From more podcast from

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio, visit the heart Radio app Apple Pie

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Speaker 1: caust for wherever you list your favorite chose that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon

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Speaker 1: to tell you what's trending and we'll tuck you all

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Speaker 1: that right, come lamb no like we s m h

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Speaker 1: if this guy we're looking at that come falls no

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Speaker 1: mountains this she I won't cry. I won't cry.