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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew Hey, John Harris, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm well, Drew Doerty, how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good, but I could be better.

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Speaker 4: Because we did about three four minutes of radio without

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Speaker 4: hitting a forward button.

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Speaker 5: That happens, man, it happens. How many times you have

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Speaker 5: we done that over the years. Don't text each other like,

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Speaker 5: oh dude, sorry, man, I didn't record. Oh that's just

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Speaker 5: a it's a brutal feeling. Or when you go to

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Speaker 5: save the file. This happened to you the other day.

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Speaker 2: We were doing this.

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Speaker 5: You went to go save the file and it was

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Speaker 5: like there's no more room on the disc, like wait,

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Speaker 5: what what do you mean?

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Speaker 2: And then you go through and then you start. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Mark Mark had to blast out his twenty fourteen Curtis

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Speaker 4: Thrummend interview recently. There's no more Max Bullah yeah on ones

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Speaker 4: on the.

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Speaker 3: Share drive anymore.

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Speaker 5: So behind a curtain, Well, we're literally three feet away.

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Speaker 5: This is kind of our you know, when market I

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Speaker 5: do radio this is this is where we sit.

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Speaker 2: So I sit in the spot and you're sitting where

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 5: Mark usually says, So Mark and I were doing radio

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Speaker 5: and we're kind of in between a couple, you know,

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Speaker 5: doing some segments, and he starts just reading off the

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Speaker 5: list of interviews that have been on that computer, and

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Speaker 5: it was Keith Mumphrey interview.

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Speaker 3: A team Hunt, Time to go, a team.

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Speaker 2: Hunt, Jonathan Grimes.

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Speaker 5: I mean, name blasts from the past that were really

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Speaker 5: that were good interviews, but you just haven't heard those

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Speaker 5: words and the names in a long time, and they're

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Speaker 5: still on the computer. There are certain ones that we

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Speaker 5: would we would hang on to, like there was a

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Speaker 5: there was an interview that I was able to do

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Speaker 5: back in twenty seventeen of a former quarterback of this

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Speaker 5: team that I just kept in that file just to have.

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Speaker 5: You'd never know when you might you need it.

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Speaker 2: Look back. I remember thinking when we did an.

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Speaker 5: Interview, like, man, if he makes the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 5: we'll play this. This is his first day into building

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Speaker 5: all that. But I don't think it's gonna happen. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of stuff on our computer, so.

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Speaker 4: You're right, I don't think Tom Savage will make the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. That's no, not on you, Tom.

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Speaker 3: You're a guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Brandon Whedon will make it either, So I.

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Speaker 4: Think that interview with Tom Savage is going to be

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Speaker 4: he played in Union with his gold jacket.

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Speaker 3: I can't so anyhow. This is in the lab. It's

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Speaker 3: presented by Infinity.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday was the final day of Texans Mini Camp. We're

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Speaker 4: recording this on Thursday, and yesterday JJ Watt was also

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Speaker 4: in the building. It was cool to see him checking

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Speaker 4: out the camp. He is gonna be a color commentator

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Speaker 4: along with play by play voice Iron Eagle for CBS

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Speaker 4: this year. That's a pretty powerhouse duo, right. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: be fun to see how he does. Just like everything

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Speaker 4: he's done in his life, JJ's done it at a

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Speaker 4: high level. I expect nothing changes in this instance either.

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Speaker 4: But it made me wonder, how many games do you

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Speaker 4: think they'll have that are Texans games? How many Texans

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Speaker 4: games do you think that duo is gonna call. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna set the over under a three and a half.

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Speaker 4: You think they go more than that, you think they

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Speaker 5: Okay, so here's one of the weird things about uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, JJ's at CBS and typically and I remember

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Speaker 5: before the schedule came out, I started thinking, yeah, I

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Speaker 5: think we could get JJ for for a few games.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I know the math is a little bit different now

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Speaker 2: Well, I just looked at the schedule.

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Speaker 5: If my math is correct, If my math is correct

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Speaker 5: as it sits right now, there are fifteen games. The

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Speaker 4: I kind of get the sense that Chargers game it's late,

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Speaker 5: That's the only one on that's exactly considered that a

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Speaker 2: Is that one will not be CBS.

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Speaker 5: My hope is that Week eighteen won't matter and that

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Speaker 2: But there are seven games on CBS.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's okay, that's I didn't do that advanced

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Speaker 4: math yeah, yeas tough.

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Speaker 5: So I think the number is a little bit lower, right,

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Speaker 5: But when you start looking at the games that potentially,

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Speaker 5: that's a CBS game I could I could see that

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Speaker 5: and that that would be great. It's a Jaguars game

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Speaker 4: Then maybe maybe Lawrence starts playing better and maybe the

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Speaker 5: You know that maybe that Jaguars game before Evens week five,

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Speaker 5: I could see that, you know, because they're the number

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Speaker 5: Eagle group. And I love Charles Davis.

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Speaker 5: I loved him and I think he'll be great on

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Speaker 5: college football. But it's gonna be weird to not hear

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Speaker 5: Charles doing games and he might just think he might

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Speaker 5: do him a different way this year. But miss Charles Davis.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that JJ's replacing him is perfect. I

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Speaker 5: think JJ and I and are gonna be fantastic. That said,

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Speaker 5: they're the number two crew, so it's gotta be a

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Speaker 2: That could be one of those that could definitely be

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Speaker 3: Those number one that could be a Nance Roman one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely could so. And that's the hard part.

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Speaker 5: Like at Jaguars early in the season Titans week four,

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Speaker 5: are those teams gonna be at a level that it's

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a little bit tougher.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm just looking at our schedule obviously, what impacts it.

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Speaker 5: What's the rest of the schedule for that week, you know,

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Speaker 5: at Ravens, maybe that's the way to break the streak

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Speaker 5: like I'm like you and Mark and you guys are

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Speaker 5: all the broadcasting stuff. You know, who calls what game?

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Speaker 5: How do they figure it out? We CBS, were Fox,

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Speaker 5: I don't know how much fans like it. I think

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Speaker 2: I think that matters to a lot of fans.

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Speaker 5: The fact he was in a building on Wednesday that

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Speaker 2: And no good reason.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who asked it, but it was a

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Speaker 4: good question, but essentially it was a you're gonna be nervous,

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Speaker 4: and he said, Well, the way I look at it

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Speaker 4: is half of the people watching and listening are gonna

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Speaker 4: and the other half are gonna like it because I'm

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Speaker 4: saying good things about their team. It's all gonna depend

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Speaker 4: so and he's got that's a good perspective to have,

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Speaker 4: you know. It's here's the other thing I play. Guys

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Speaker 4: They don't. You know, they're pretty unbiased for the most part.

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Speaker 5: Here's the other thing, too, People are gonna have preconceived

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Speaker 5: JJ called a Steelers Chiefs game, well, what's everybody thinking, Well,

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Speaker 5: JJ is gonna talk about TJ, and he's gonna prop

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Speaker 5: TJ up. And I listened to a good two quarters,

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Speaker 5: And and that's you know, I'd love that that brothers

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Speaker 5: As soon as he says something good about TJ, oh, look.

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Speaker 2: At JJ, he's a homer for TJ.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because he just beat a triple team and

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Speaker 5: made a sack, right, you know, but people aren't gonna

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Speaker 5: hear that. It's the same thing with the Texans. Oh, well,

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Speaker 5: the Texans are his team. He's definitely gonna give credit

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Speaker 5: know that's not always gonna be the case. JJ is

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Speaker 5: But there's gonna be that thought of well, JJ's a textan.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be bias towards the Texans.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you fight, you find that, you know pretty

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Speaker 5: much everywhere. You know, Troy had to deal with that

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Speaker 5: Trayman when he was calling Cowboys games and they called

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Speaker 3: But it's on the Cowboys. Traman has never held back.

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Speaker 5: No, he's never held back and it but it still

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Speaker 5: took a while for fans to think, Oh, Troy's gonna

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Speaker 2: I think the last I don't know, last ten years,

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Speaker 5: I forget when I'm listening to Troy call a game

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Speaker 5: that Oh yeah, he's former cowboy. You know, JJ will

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Speaker 5: will have to he'll have to fight those biases. But

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Speaker 5: if he just calls the game as he sees it,

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Speaker 5: he's gonna you know, he's gonna be fantastic. He's got

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Speaker 5: good pop culture references. He can fly off the cuff

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Speaker 5: a little bit. He'll be fun. You've interviewed him numerous times.

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Speaker 5: I have as well. He can go with the flow

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Speaker 5: He just has to call the game the way he

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Speaker 5: And it's like I'm looking at going Jesus h he

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Speaker 5: He's a different dude, and I think he's do you

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see it, can't wait.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna thrive, He'll be successful, He'll be great. You

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Speaker 4: and I are not gonna do this next week. I'm

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Speaker 5: Yeah you're gone, dude, million You're done for a fight.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna be a nice one too. I'll come back,

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Speaker 5: uh sneak in your suitcase. I'd love to, but I

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Speaker 2: A little bit of little tan. That's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: But I'll miss you. I'll miss this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be fun.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's good good.

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Speaker 4: Seeing JJ out there made me think about what was

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Speaker 4: much you'll see him calling Texans games. But no, he'll

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Speaker 4: be great. And I know you're great as well, and

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Speaker 4: you too watching it and listen you're great. The three

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Speaker 4: of us, we had fun. This is Texans in the Lab,

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Speaker 4: presented by Infinity. Will be back, like we said, in

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Speaker 4: two weeks, and that'll be a doozy.

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Speaker 1: So long