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Speaker 1: Liz went from being interested in true crime to living

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Speaker 1: true crime.

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Speaker 2: My husband comes back outside and he's he's shaking, and

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Speaker 2: he just looks like he's seen a ghost and he's

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Speaker 2: just in shock, and he said, your dad's been killed.

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Speaker 1: This is Hands Tied, a true crime podcast exploring the

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Speaker 1: murder of Jim Melgar. Today is December twenty third, twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: and this is a representeris kind of case. States will

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Speaker 1: take you inside the police investigation.

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Speaker 3: That you can see her.

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Speaker 4: I could see her. I believe she was tied up.

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Speaker 1: Liz's father murdered and her mother found locked in a closet,

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Speaker 1: her hands and feet bound.

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Speaker 4: I believe that she was like this when she was

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Speaker 4: saying help, okay, And then I got scared and I

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Speaker 4: ran out and I told my dad.

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Speaker 1: I was like, we don't know who's in here.

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Speaker 5: Can you convict a person of murder with no motive?

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Speaker 5: I knew it would be an unusual try, just because

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Speaker 5: that question was so important to the prosecution.

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Speaker 1: We'll go inside the courtroom as a jury decides who's

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Speaker 1: to blame for this shocking murder.

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Speaker 5: I tried to keep an help in mind. I want

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Speaker 5: to believe somebody is innocent until the state can prove them.

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Speaker 1: Guilty, and will follow Liz's quest for answers.

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Speaker 2: I'm good in an emergency. I can stay calm, I

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Speaker 2: can assess the situation. I know what I need to do.

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Speaker 1: A quest that began the moment she learned her dad

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Speaker 1: had been killed.

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Speaker 2: I was looking for similar crimes in the area to

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Speaker 2: see if anything could be tied together or if it

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Speaker 2: was the same people.

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Speaker 1: And continues today using her true crime knowledge to unravel

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Speaker 1: the mystery surrounding her dad's death.

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Speaker 3: I think if it weren't for that strange interest or

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Speaker 3: hobby or whatever you want to call it, things could

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Speaker 3: have gone very, very differently. It kind of helped me

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Speaker 3: put the pieces of the puzzle together, pieces.

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Speaker 1: Liz is still trying to put together years after her

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Speaker 1: dad murder. But for Liz, one thing is certain. She

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Speaker 1: believes the wrong person is in prison for the crime.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guilt, I think pushing me.

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Speaker 1: Listen to Hands Tied starting on August sixth on the

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