1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: What's for the Angela Yee. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm Angela Yee and my guest house Candice Diller Bassett 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: real high spots of potomac. She's here all week and 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: you came on a good time. Yes, all right, because 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: we have Clay here from Love Is Blind season six, 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: and I feel like there's been a lot of think. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: Pieces about you. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: I have seen that. 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean clearly, I've been watching the show 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: the whole entire season. You and a d and I 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: had said this on the air was my favorite couple 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: for a period of time until you guys uncoupled at 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: the end unexpectedly because I think watching that scene, a 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: lot of people were like jaw on the floor. 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 4: You know, I was watching it too. I thought I 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 4: was going to say yes, watching that so you did. Yeah, 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 4: I was like watching it back, like dang, I was 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 4: giving like a lot of indication. I was going to 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: say yes, but you know, I knew what exactly exactly happened, 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 4: but yeah, I was like waiting kind of cut it 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: up a little bit. I was like, damn, I'm I 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: about to say yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: You know I wanted to say when I was watching 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: it too, and you guys got to the altar. I 25 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: was like, this was my firest indication. Maybe not because 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: you didn't really prepare your. 27 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, your vows. 28 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: It was kind of you know sometimes like I'm thinking 29 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: about like like Candice, when you got married, did you 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: have I. 31 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 5: Wrote my I wait until the last minute, but the 32 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 5: night before the wedding I did write out my vows? 33 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 5: Did you like? And I know men are different, but 34 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 5: did you ever think about like when I get married, 35 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 5: I'm gonna either write my vows out or I'm going 36 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 5: to speak from the heart. 37 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: What was your thought process? 38 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty like as on a show, 39 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: Like my education about marriage was not that high. Like 40 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: I no, I would never even think about writing vows 41 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: even if this decision was going to say yes, because honestly, 42 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: I was kind of just thinking like am I going 43 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: to say yes or no? So in terms of like 44 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: thinking about my vows, I was more so thinking about 45 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: the decision more so. 46 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: Than like you know what you know, professor my love. 47 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 5: I guess on that alter So is that because you 48 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 5: were on a show where you have to decide at 49 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: the altar whether you're going to say yes? Nor was 50 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 5: that because that your mindset about marriage. 51 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's a little combination of both. 52 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 4: I think that my mindset on marriage probably wasn't the 53 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: healthiest going into the show. 54 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: You know. 55 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: It was something that like I wanted, but like I 56 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: didn't really know how to achieve it. You know, like 57 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: I didn't really know how to like put the work 58 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 4: in to like actually be a husband. It was like 59 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: something that you like, yeah, I want to be a husband, 60 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: but like do you really know how do you have 61 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: the tools to be a husband? So I think there 62 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: was a little bit combination of both. And also with 63 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: the show, like I would be candid, let you know, 64 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: like some of the stuff with the show kind of 65 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: you know, you know, tricked me up a little bit 66 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: with is this an actual process? Where I felt like 67 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 4: this is a foundation where you know, this is something 68 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: that's forever. You know, I kind of struggle with TV show. 69 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 5: This was your first time doing a reality and your 70 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: mom wanted you to do this. 71 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: My mom did. But you know, it's funny, she actually 72 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: was talking about married at first sight. She didn't me. 73 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: She wasn't even talking about loves Blind. So she's like, Clay, 74 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: I think this would be a good show for you. 75 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 4: You know she wanted me to not lean with the 76 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: physical kind of more so build an emotional connection. But 77 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: she was really more so speaking for marriage or first sight, 78 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: not love is blind. So she advocated me going the 79 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: long show. 80 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: You know, Clay, looks are important to you and you 81 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: talk about that in the pods, and attraction. 82 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Is important to you as well. 83 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: But the whole idea of this show is that you 84 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: don't know what the other person looks like. Has any 85 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: of that changed for you, because people were very critical 86 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: of the fact that you were focused on like ad 87 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: you would like, I have to make sure I'm going 88 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: to be attracted to you, you know, kind. 89 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Of like what do you look like? And she was like, hey, 90 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: this is not what this show is about. 91 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: But when it comes to being with somebody who physically 92 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: because I also don't think that's a problem, right, I 93 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: don't think it's an issue to say I want to 94 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: be attracted because attraction for me might be different than 95 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: if somebody else traditionally funds attractive. Yeah, but how has 96 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: that changed for you during this experiment or has it? 97 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: No, I definitely changed. 98 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: I think I'm definitely able to lean more with the 99 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: emotional side, and I think I'm definitely more emotionally intelligent 100 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: than I was when I first. 101 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Did the show. 102 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: But I will say that what you guys saw was 103 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: day two of the pods, Like we have ten days 104 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: in the pods. A lot of the stuff that you 105 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: guys saw was the first four days. Me and A 106 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: D were good the last six days, Like we had 107 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: a lot of powerful conversation. I think that the black 108 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: community would have loved to hear that was not air. 109 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: You know, I'm big into entrepreneurship. I spoke about a 110 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: lot about that that wasn't aired on the show. But 111 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: in terms of that, I'm big on physical I am, 112 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: but like I could say that I'm not so much 113 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 4: leading with that. And even then when I date, I'm 114 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: not dating with like the pleasure perspective. It's more so 115 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: like the purpose perspective as well. So I think that's 116 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: what the show kind of showed me and taught me 117 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: as well. 118 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: Could you tell Ad was black from talking to her? 119 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I could tell. 120 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: We had that where it's like, you know, it's funny too, 121 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: like I was, you know, you know, you know, you 122 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: dated like all these other girls, like I feel like, 123 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: you know, most of the white girls it was. 124 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: It was one date and then yeah I did. I 125 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: did date Laura for Yeah. 126 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: She knew what she what you looked like. 127 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: So I kind of felt like maybe yeah, because maybe 128 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: a D had an edge. 129 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: Knowing that I was black, well also knowing kind of 130 00:04:59,279 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: what you look like. 131 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: If if you dated somebody else and you know, they 132 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: could have a conversation. 133 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, I mean, you know, me and 134 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: Laura kind of had like fun banter. 135 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: I feel like me a kind of got like, yeah. 136 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 5: Right, if you knowing what you know now, if you 137 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 5: were to go back into the pods with this new understanding, 138 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 5: would you do anything different? 139 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: You know? 140 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I'm one of them. God, 141 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 4: I'm a spiritual guy. I feel like things happen for 142 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: a reason, you know. Like the way how I came on, 143 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: I was unscripted. I didn't really watch the show, so 144 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 4: I came from a perspective of the fans. I like, yo, 145 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: is this really real? Like you can you really fall 146 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: in love in six weeks? And I was really like, 147 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: you know, you know, skeptical of the process entirely. 148 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: So you know, for me, it did work. 149 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: I did fall in love with a D in the pods, 150 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 4: So I would do it again because I think it 151 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 4: in terms of it transformed my family. We was able 152 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: to kind of talk about a little bit of the 153 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: trauma that we had, and I do think that my dating, uh, 154 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: you know, the way I date, it's going to be 155 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: a lot more healthier. 156 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Okay, good, all right, And so let's talk about you, 157 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: Nad now, because she's still on your page, She's still 158 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: you guys are still friends. But at the reunion, you 159 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: were saying that you feel like you made a mistake. 160 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: Is that something you still are pursuing. 161 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: I'm not pursuing Ad anymore, you know, she said it 162 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: on multiple podcasts. I think this week she's super single, 163 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: and I support her on that. You know, at the 164 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: end of the day, me, I'm personally going through therapy, 165 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: I'm healing, I'm trying. I'm not available right now. I'm 166 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: just kind of just working on myself, working on my 167 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: business and stuff like that. So at the end of 168 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 4: the day, all I could do is support Ad. And 169 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: you know, at the day, she wants to be a 170 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: wife right now, and I wasn't able to provide that 171 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 4: to you know, pretty much. 172 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: Be her husband. 173 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: So all I'm doing is to support her, and I think, 174 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: you know, we have an amazing friendship and it's amazing 175 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: that we could kind of go from that and still 176 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: be friends. 177 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: So what were some of those entrepreneurship conversations that you wish. 178 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: We would have heard. 179 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 4: I wish that we would hear a little bit more 180 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: of my commercial real estate perspective, you know, because I'm big. 181 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 4: I'm big on that buying land, buying homes. I have 182 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: two homes right now, so like I was talking to 183 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 4: her about pretty much like purchasing land. 184 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: Like I have an autistic brother. 185 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: I wanted to build a community for kids that have 186 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: autism spectrum. You know, I wanted to possibly get into 187 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: the wedding venue space that was I'm a huge entrepreneur 188 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: classes where I wanted to open up event spaces and 189 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 4: ad is in real estate. So we kind of vibed 190 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: on that as well, and that synergy and stuff like that. So, 191 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of conversations was happened. A lot 192 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: of our financial conversations happened, you know, off camp. 193 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: Well it was on camera, but they didn't really show that. 194 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I noticed that one of the things 195 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: that people talked about was also when you were talking 196 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: about AD's finances and that conversation was important for you, 197 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 2: and you didn't seem too certain about that as well. 198 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: And so, like you said, you guys didn't have those conversations, 199 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: But what was it? And I could because I want 200 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: you to be able to discuss that too, because finances 201 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: are an important conversation that can happen if people are 202 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: planning to get married. So what was it that kind 203 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: of signaled a red flag for you when it came 204 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: to her finances. 205 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. 206 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 4: I mean for me personally, I wasn't never saying that 207 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: adies finances was a reason why we wouldn't be together. 208 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: I was saying that I didn't understand it enough for 209 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: us to get married at this time period. Like, I 210 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: just want to mind everybody, this is six weeks and 211 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take ownership that I probably should have a 212 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: little bit more conversations about the finances, but I just 213 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: want to know, mind everyone that there's so much going 214 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: on at that time. Every day is a different theme. 215 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: So we talked about the finances and the pods. What 216 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: I saw from a d and the pods was a 217 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: little bit different than what I saw when we were 218 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: filmed when we were actually in Charlotte together, she you know, 219 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: we vibbed off of entrepreneur spirit, we vibbed off of 220 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: working hard. And then when I felt like when we 221 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: came back to the house, she dedicated all her time 222 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 4: to be a wife. And that's cool and everything, but 223 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: that's not really what I like fell in love with 224 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: her about. You know, like her biggest thing was like, Clay, 225 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: I got your back, I'm gonna support you. And to me, 226 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: that's just not a motivation for me to get married 227 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: because I have a lot of people that got my back. 228 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: You know, I kind of want I want to be 229 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: motivated by my partner as well. I think as a partnershi, 230 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: and I'm big on marriage. I don't want to get 231 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: a divorce and one of the things I know that 232 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: people get divorces over is financeice, So for me, you know, 233 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: so yeah, yeah, you know, you know what I'm saying, 234 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 4: So like finance is big. So you know, Ad had 235 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: an ex boyfriend before she did the experiment. I think 236 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: she kind of talked about it on the podcast, and 237 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 4: for me, I thought that she said she was a 238 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: real estate agent. I didn't really see her, you know, 239 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: in that field because she was, you know, dedicated to 240 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: the process, and that's good for her. A lot of 241 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: other people were dedicated to the process as well. But 242 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: for me, I felt as though for me to say 243 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 4: I do, I needed to see you know how you 244 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: you know, what was going on, like how are you 245 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: making your money? Because it seemed to me the ex boyfriend. 246 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: This is just to me. 247 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: This may not be true, but to me, it seemed 248 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: like all the finances came from that ex boyfriend. 249 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: So he had a club, she worked at his club. 250 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: She worked also in addition to real estate that she's 251 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: in addition to being a race. 252 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: Sounds like like you're saying like maybe she wanted to 253 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 5: be a stay at home wife. 254 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. 255 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying that. 256 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: I don't think because ag definitely got into her real 257 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: estate after we finished filming, and she was very transparent 258 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 4: me about this ex boyfriend. So I don't want to 259 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 4: make seem like, you know, you know, she wasn't doing anything, 260 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: but she just really dedicated this time to be a wife. 261 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: Me personally, I didn't understand that because they paid us 262 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: whatever they paid us, and to me, that wasn't enough. 263 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 4: To just pause my life for six weeks. Like it 264 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: was like, regardless of if you're making money, I just 265 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna go get it. I just can't 266 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 4: see how you could pause your life for six weeks 267 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: and not work. 268 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 5: You had different ideals about work I did. 269 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: I did okay well. 270 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: And there was one part where she had like put 271 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: together this dinner and you didn't show up because you 272 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: had to work, right. 273 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: What was that about? She didn't set up a dinner. 274 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: It was like whatever she had to set up at 275 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: the house. 276 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: It was actually really cute and I want to shout 277 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: out a d It was probably one of the most 278 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: awful gifts that. 279 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: I ever had. 280 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: So pretty much she had like this little cards and 281 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 4: it said like the things that she thinks about me. 282 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: So every day I would pick it up and it's 283 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 4: like the different things to think about me, Like I 284 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 4: love the way you smile, like I loved It was 285 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: really beautiful. 286 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: Honestly, I never had a gift like that. I didn't 287 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: know that that gift was there. 288 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: Like I honestly was at the lake working because I 289 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: rent out boats and jet skis also work nine to five. 290 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: I'm in tech sales, you know, so I'm on I'm 291 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: on a call with clients. I'm trying to close deals. 292 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: So I was working my nine to five schedule. We 293 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: were filmed sometimes from six to ten. This particular time 294 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 4: was a weekend. I was at the lake from nine 295 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: to seven. I was tired, like you know, like you're 296 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 4: at the lake all day, the sun is beaming on you. 297 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: I'm pushing the boat. I'm doing a lot of this 298 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: by myself. So what happened was my Jesski stay in 299 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: my garage. I got to I got to my house 300 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: and honestly, I just crashed. I got to the house, 301 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: I was at the sun all day. It was a 302 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: hot day, and I just crashed. It just it just 303 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 4: happens like it e. 304 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: Iing to clarify that because right. 305 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: And it wasn't even wasn't even that like. 306 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: Where Lover's Blind had a station that it was not 307 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: really convenient to my lifestyle, like where in my lake 308 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: where I would have had to drive it would have 309 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: been an hour and at hour and twenty minute drive 310 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 4: just to get my jet skis. Then I had to 311 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: drive another forty minutes to go to the lake where 312 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: I live. I'm in the middle of both so like 313 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 4: I could just take my jet skis and drove to Lake. 314 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: It's a twenty five minute ride, whereas where they had 315 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: me at it would have been just too much, you know. 316 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: So I'm on a reality yeah, yeah, yeah, And we 317 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: are contracted to be to film from Tuesday to Saturday, 318 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: and we know that we have to be available at 319 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: those times. Like, did you not know that you would 320 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: need to be available at that time to film whatever, 321 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: whether it was her surprising you with a dinner or 322 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 5: going to the Ferris Wheel, Like, did you not know 323 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: that you needed to be available. 324 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: At that time? 325 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna say for me phoning asleep, that's totally 326 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: on me, Like that, I should have came home. 327 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: We were supposed to go film. 328 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: No, that was off. That was when we came that 329 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: was off. 330 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: She just she just did that off the strength of 331 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: just being a good person honestly. So you know, it 332 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: wasn't like I was supposed to be there filming, but 333 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: I just honestly just crashed. I should have went home, 334 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: yeah and did that. I just honestly just fell asleep. 335 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: It was no middle you know, ill will attention with that. 336 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: But Love is Blind told me that they were going 337 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: to adjust to my lifestyle. They said that we wanted 338 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: we want to make this. We want to make this 339 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: as you know, simple as possible. We want to make 340 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: this like actually, like you're going to get married and 341 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: this is your real relationship. I came to find out 342 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 4: I got to work on their schedule and was got gotcha, 343 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: that was a little bit of an issue. 344 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 3: So you know, I ain't gonna say that. 345 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 4: I probably contributed to my edit, but definitely bump I 346 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: bumped heads a lot with the scheduling because I wasn't 347 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 4: really available all the time. 348 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: A lot with production. 349 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 350 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Have you ever 351 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: lived with somebody before? 352 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: Never? Never? 353 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: That was my first time living with someone. Yeah, I'm 354 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: a solo rider. 355 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so this was really like a whole new world. 356 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I'm getting dissected. 357 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: People like judging me and stuff like that, Like I'm 358 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: doing a lot of stuff for the first time. 359 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 3: Like, I have a question. 360 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: I don't if you can answer this. So I saw 361 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: somewhere that your love is blind contract that if you 362 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: don't show up to the altar, if you don't get 363 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 5: married or something like that, you can be fined like 364 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars. No, No, it was like the girl 365 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: showed like the line. 366 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't really look into that because I 367 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: was thinking in my head like how did. 368 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: That even leak? 369 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: Like like like's I just be feeling like I've seen 370 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: so much CAP on the internet from this stuff, So 371 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. 372 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: I didn't really dive into it. 373 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: But I seriously doubt she has some my on somebody 374 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: on our cast schedule, because not like we printed it 375 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: out like I said, we got it in a docu 376 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: sign email. 377 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: So it's like even when she like how did she 378 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: get that? You know? So true? It's not true. Now 379 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: they're not saying it, but you kind. 380 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: Of feel like a little pressure to go to the 381 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: altar and stuff like that, but like they're not articulating that. 382 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: And the staff was amazing. 383 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: They didn't push me to do anything that I didn't 384 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: want to do, Like you know, it was me and 385 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: eighty decision to go to the altar. We actually got 386 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: addressed because you know, as you know, guys know I 387 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: was saying, you know that I'm struggling with you know 388 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: the concept of like hey, on May twelfth, this is 389 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: six weeks saying we got to get married. I don't 390 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: think we built enough of a foundation yet to get married. 391 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: And that's what I was articulating, and they kept on 392 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: having me saying like I'm afraid to cheat on you. 393 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: That's that was an edit. 394 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: I was saying that have we built the foundation enough, 395 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: We're we're going to be faithful with each other forever. 396 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: I don't want to cheat on you, and they cut 397 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: that whole part out and say, I don't want to 398 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 4: cheat on you. It is crazy, It is crazy, And 399 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: this was spicy, and like I said, I receive it all. 400 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: You know, people want to kill me for it. 401 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, like I do 402 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: think that we was able to impact a lot of 403 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: things that I struggle with, you know what I'm saying. 404 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: So you know, they focused a lot on your parents too, 405 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: and that conversation really did become a bad job for 406 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: this is why Clay perhaps feels the way that he does. 407 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: I saw a therapist breaking it down by parents. Yeah, 408 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: like your parents' conversation, my parents, your parents and your 409 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: dad like things that you know your mom did not know. 410 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: And that main thing was that your dad, when he 411 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: was cheating on your mom would bring you, you know, 412 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: on some of those days, and your mom wasn't even 413 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: aware of that. 414 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: That's a wild you know. 415 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, how come you've never had that conversation with her 416 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: before until this happened. And I know you guys are 417 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: all working through things as a family too. 418 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, it's like kind 419 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: of like even though I disrespect it, but it's like 420 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: bro code, like you know, I don't know. It's like, 421 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: you know, my dad was my hero, and like I 422 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: didn't want to. I didn't really process those things when 423 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: I was a kid when it was happening. Like so 424 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: when I was with AD and you're like faced with 425 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 4: this time where you got to get married, Like I 426 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: just saw that it was a hurdle. It really wasn't 427 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: me even trying to like snitch on my dad or 428 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: anything like that. It was just like I got comfortable 429 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: with the camera at that time. It was about like, 430 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: you know, three and a half weeks of us filming 431 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 4: and you know, me having a conversation with Ad, I 432 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: was just articulating some of the blockage that I had 433 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: in terms of like moving forward in our relationships. 434 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: So you know, I know that had to make your 435 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: mom furious actually found that out child. 436 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she said, you know, that was the first 437 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: time hearing it. Actually, so when she met a D 438 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: that scene, that was the first time ever hearing it. 439 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: So they thank god, they didn't really get a lot 440 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 4: of my mom, you know, conversation like that, because that 441 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: was the first time she. 442 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: Even heard she ever heard about that. And I thought 443 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: I told her, but you know, you didn't tell you. 444 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: I thought I. 445 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: Didn't tell her like that. 446 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: But I definitely talked to my little brother, and you know, 447 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: he because I'm away from my family, like I'm the 448 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 4: only one down south, you know, like everybody else is 449 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: in Jersey, you know what I'm saying. So like I 450 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: told me and my little brother, Nate, we talked all 451 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: the time and he Nate definitely no. 452 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: So I thought, Nate, you thought. 453 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 5: She was going to put it on your brother and 454 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 5: make your brother tell your mom I was supposed to leave. 455 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: You're right, You're right now, hey make mistakes. 456 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: You know, did your parents still like a D two. 457 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: It felt like they really did like her, like they 458 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: would have liked for you guys to get married. 459 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, my mom definitely got respect for a D. 460 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: I don't think she liked the comment that eighty made 461 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: throw at the reunion. 462 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: She didn't want to be your mom. 463 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, it's like, AD, what are you talking about? Man? 464 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: Like my mom was married for twenty three years, like 465 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: you wish you know what I mean? 466 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: Like, well, she said respectfully, but you know she didn't 467 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: want to she didn't want that situation. 468 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: To be he Yeah, yeah, I just feel like she 469 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 4: could have definitely worded that differently because my mom has 470 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 4: only on camera, has only spoke grace. She's she's had 471 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 4: so much grace for AD, and you just opened up 472 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: the conversation of like with women like, well, I don't 473 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: want to be like that, but it's like divorce happens, 474 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: like breakups happen. You don't say you don't want to 475 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: be like somebody like those stuff do happen. Like relationships 476 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: are tough, you're hard. My mom was married for twenty 477 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: three almost twenty four years, Like that's an amazing accomplishment, 478 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 4: whether you want to sneeze at it or not, you know, like, 479 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: of course the goals to be married forever, but that's 480 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 4: not everybody's story. So I thought AD has met my 481 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: mom enough to know not to throw that in her 482 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: face like that, but. 483 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 5: You know that's know that she was throwing it in 484 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 5: her face so much that she said, respectively what she 485 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 5: did not want for herself. 486 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: And I understand that. I understand me personally though I didn't. Well, 487 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: that's your mama, So you're gonna ride for your mom, 488 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure? 489 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you know, like you said, one 490 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: of the things that you want to make sure that 491 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: you're able to talk about is your business. 492 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: Has this help business? 493 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: You being on Love is Blind, you have your wave 494 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: Sandy Water Rentals, and you are an entrepreneur as well, 495 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: and you also have a day job, right, So has 496 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: this helped business? 497 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Has people been coming like I'm want to. 498 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: Go rit Some actually haven't really been answering calls for 499 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: the business, just because, like you know, the first three weeks, 500 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: I didn't feel like I had like, you know, positivity, 501 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 4: so I kind of didn't really want to push my 502 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: business at this time. And honestly too, I you know, 503 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: it was really stressful going through everything I went through. 504 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: So I plan on like upp and up the business 505 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: in April. 506 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: But we do got new equipment, We got four new boats, 507 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: we got were getting the jet car. Soon we got 508 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: five jet skis, so we're definitely ready to have a 509 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 4: lit summer. 510 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: But I just wanted to kind of pause it. 511 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 4: I got a new job, so I wanted to focus 512 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 4: on that while I was going through everything been real stressful. 513 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: So you know a lot of people call in my 514 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: business line, and then you know it's a lot of trolls. 515 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 4: So you know, I didn't want to like really push 516 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 4: the business too much during this time period. 517 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: I understand that let it calm down and let it. 518 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does it affect you mentally, because like I said, 519 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: people were coming at you. They were like, ad was amazing. 520 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: You know, you really dropped the ball. How could you 521 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: do that to her? You left her at the altar? 522 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: Did you anticipate all of this backlash? 523 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: Well I didn't. Yeah I did it at all. 524 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: Like I was getting like death threats, my number got leaked, 525 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: I got people sending me text messages. So it's always like, hey, 526 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 4: get off social media. But it was getting away from 527 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 4: social media. It was giving my business reviews and it's like, y'all, 528 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm a black owned business, like I've had success in 529 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: this stuff, Like why a y'all trying to tear me 530 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 4: down off of something y'all don't even know, Like they 531 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: didn't even to me personally. I didn't even think I 532 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 4: got a favorable edit. Like I felt like they cut 533 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: me up so crazy where people don't even didn't even 534 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: really get to know who I really was. 535 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: So like for y'all to like. 536 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: Leave, give me one stars on my business and leave 537 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: because that has nothing to do with it. They got 538 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: nothing to do with nothing, Like people who didn't even 539 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 4: rent my jet ski's or my boat out. 540 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 541 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: And then my number got leaked and then people were 542 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 4: sending me like, you know, crazy messages my voicemail. 543 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: I got like death threats. 544 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 4: So it comes to territory one hundred percent. 545 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: I did not expect that. 546 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 4: I thought that, like, you know, me opening up and 547 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: being vulnerable was like a safe space, and I thought 548 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: that for the black community is something that y'all needed 549 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: to hear, like a black man being you know, transparent 550 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 4: about like some of the things we struggled with. I 551 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 4: didn't know that me being transparent about my stuff was 552 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 4: going to give me such a target where people like, you. 553 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: Know, you know, so it's both. 554 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: I think it definitely did open up a lot of 555 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 5: doors for conversation in the community, but it also opened 556 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 5: you up to because you're being vulnerable to people coming 557 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 5: at you because they're sitting at home in their bathrobes 558 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 5: they dirty bathroom is like, trust me, I understand. I 559 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 5: feel your pain, but that it comes with the territory 560 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 5: and whatever. If you continue in this space, that's not 561 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 5: going to stop. 562 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: Shout out to Jalen for holding me back because I definitely. 563 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Because there was also the he just wanted to be 564 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: on TV, but this is your first time doing TV. 565 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: And then there was Trevor, who at the reunion had 566 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: his whole issue that was wild. 567 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: He was like he took the longest pause I've ever seen. 568 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: That was awkward and answering a question Tremor was my 569 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: boy too man? Not too much on Trevor Man, Like 570 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: the funny thing is, Man, I really feel like the 571 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: Internet needed to chill on Trevor. Like that's Netflix trying 572 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 4: to make Trevor the Golden boy. He never he never 573 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: wanted that. We was in the pause. We was cutting 574 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: up everything that I did in the pause, saying I 575 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: want to you know, I'm my nerves, I'm nervous about 576 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 4: if I fall in love with the girl and I'm 577 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: not tracking to her. That was a big fear Trevor 578 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: said the same thing. Trevor was on me. We set 579 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 4: that on the pause and the cameras, So that's Netflix 580 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: trying to make. 581 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: Trevor look but he did have that girl that he 582 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: was like, I'm leaving now to go do this. 583 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I'll be back, Like. 584 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this too though, like I get it. 585 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: I think Trevor said some crazy dingom text. So I'm 586 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: not trying to defend everything Trevor did, but I'm just 587 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 4: defending from the perspective of Lover's Blind told us that 588 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: we officially cast members a week before we flew out there, 589 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: or like a week and a half before he flew 590 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: out there. We started the interview in October twenty twenty two. 591 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: March twenty twenty three is when they told us that 592 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: we're officially cast member season. 593 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: So a lot happens in between, Yeah, like what you 594 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: want me to do? 595 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 4: Pause my life, like not talk to anybody during his 596 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: time periods like and then and then when they talk 597 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: to you, they say, hey, you're not officially a cast member. 598 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: So you know they kept the. 599 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: Money, you see, because there's couples that we don't even 600 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, have a chance to see. 601 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: And there was a lot of women on the other 602 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 4: side that had men that they went to right after 603 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: they finished. It's just that they didn't have a storyline 604 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: for you to see that. So, you know, I just 605 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: feel like the men, we kind of are like we're 606 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 4: like kicking bags and it's a whole experiment. I always 607 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 4: be like the men just getting slandered, and I don't 608 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: like the way they do. 609 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: That, honestly. 610 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, no, I say, Chelsea got slandered. 611 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: Chelsea, don't do that. Yeah, you know it's crazy too, Chelsea. 612 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 4: I was so shocked watching that because Chelsea was always 613 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: cool as hell, Like I always thought Chelsea was like 614 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: one of them girls that could hang out with the guys. 615 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 3: So like seeing her and. 616 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: She had a lot of insecurity, Yeah. 617 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 3: I didn't know that, Like it was very interesting. 618 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: And she did not take accountability, like if she did something, 619 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: she wouldn't be like, wow, was wrong for that. 620 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: It was always like yeah bye. 621 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 3: You bla blah. You know Chelsea too, man. 622 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: When they saw you on, any of them hit you 623 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: up of course. 624 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 625 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely was some of them actually told me 626 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 4: that it was healing for them, you know, because like 627 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: you know, it's different things that you know, they didn't 628 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: see before. Like, you know, I never really articulated the 629 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: struggle that I had with you know, with my dad 630 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 4: and like how I looked that marriage and like the 631 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: blockage that I had. So, you know, I'm one of 632 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: my exes that you know, I dated for you know, 633 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 4: two years hit me up and say, you know, it 634 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 4: was actually thank you for giving me the heads up 635 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: because it would have been crazy if I would wash. 636 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: It and see your face on the screen and not known. 637 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: So she said thank you for the heads up, and 638 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, talking about it, and she 639 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 4: said it actually provided a lot of healing for her. 640 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: So I was happy to hear that. 641 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: But it was definitely a couple of exes that came 642 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: out the woodwork that you know, not even the X 643 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: like you know, body that you just messed with it 644 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: back in the day and they're. 645 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 3: Just like, oh, that's my ex boyfriend. Like girl, girl, 646 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: don't do that. 647 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: The club hanging on? 648 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 4: Now? 649 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: What made you decide to start going to therapy? 650 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: Uh? 651 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: For me, I just felt like I always heard therapy 652 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: always heard about it, but like you know, just like 653 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 4: you know, like, man, I don't need that, you know, 654 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 4: like I just never thought that it was something big 655 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 4: for me to do. And uh, you know a big 656 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: part was me doing the show. Like I felt like 657 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 4: the producers were therapists in themselves. I think they have 658 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 4: like a psychiatrist like degree and something like that. So yeah, 659 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 4: something dude. So my therapy. My producer was like watching 660 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 4: my every move and just like ask me questions that 661 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: like you know, I'm like, damn, like why am I 662 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 4: doing that? Like I remember the first kind of two 663 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 4: days in the past. He's like Clay, it was like 664 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: it looks like you're having like a business interview. 665 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: They did say that, like he's on a job, but. 666 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 4: I'm like corporate, Like I've been in corporate for like 667 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 4: mad Loan, So like I'm gonna come like that, you 668 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 669 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: So you know, you know that's how it is. 670 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 4: But like he kind of was like telling me like, hey, 671 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 4: I need to do this better and stuff like that. 672 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: So he was playing with your feet a lot. What 673 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: was that that? 674 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm quirky, man, I'm quirky. I think I'm quirky. 675 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: I was comfortable in there. 676 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: Like you were very comfortable. 677 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, know, Like, why didn't guys show that, 678 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 4: like they could have they could have planned the A 679 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 4: D during that time period. But listen with her feet 680 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: though they could have. I'm just saying they could. They 681 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 4: could hook their brother up and not they had. They 682 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: had a lot of scenes where I was talking and 683 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: they had they had a. 684 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: D listening to me, they should have just fanned out. 685 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 4: But what it is a thing like and I think 686 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: I slipped it one time too, Like damn, I was like, 687 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: you know I did that, So it's crazy. 688 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bad something I watched itself even know I 689 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: did that song. 690 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: Do So, what are some things in therapy that you've 691 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: learned about yourself? 692 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: Uh So, giving myself grace is something I learned about myself. 693 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 4: Also to my therapist has been telling me that liberation 694 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 4: isn't easy. I think that for a black man, we 695 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: do need to have that safe space and I want 696 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: to advocate for a mental health advocacy and honestly just 697 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 4: put a narrative that you know, we do as men 698 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: need to have conversations. We do need to talk about 699 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: marriage and you know, just have a good understanding of 700 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: it because you know, I said at the reunion, like 701 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: for guys, whenever we get married, you know, you really 702 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: only hear like happy wife, happy life. You don't really 703 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: hear about what makes a guy happy in relationships or 704 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: what men can do to be happy relationships. So we 705 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: could know just expressing that having a safe space, and 706 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 4: you know, I just want to push that for men 707 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 4: because we're always told to be tough and have a 708 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 4: tough interior, and you know, sometimes we do need to 709 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 4: be vulnerable and let that stuff out. 710 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's interesting because you say that. But 711 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: then if you cry, people have an issue with that, 712 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: they'd be like, what is he crying for? 713 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: Like what you can't win in general public? 714 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: You win? 715 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: You could be good with where. 716 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 3: You are and what you have now. 717 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: Jimmy also said he would be open to dating a D. 718 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: Would that bother you? 719 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 3: No, I mean any single Like, I'm not a guy, but. 720 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: You was cooling with people like you know, those are 721 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: the guys that it is a competition in a way, 722 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: I guess, but these are also people that, like y'all 723 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: were sharing things with each other. 724 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 4: If a D Jason Jimmy like, what we're doing, like 725 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So like, so like go ahead, 726 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: like you know what I mean? What am I supposed 727 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: to do? Like Jimmy, don't do that, You're my friend? 728 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: Like like what about broke? You said bro code earlier? 729 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: I got bro code. I'm not gonna put that on that, 730 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 731 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: And I broke broke too with my dad, So I gotta, like, 732 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: you know, I gotta take that on the chin, you know. 733 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: So you are you still friends with some of those 734 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: guys like y'all still? 735 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm cool with Jimmy, I'm cool with Johnny, Ken, Jeremy, 736 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: I just you know, Jeremy roz Jetski's and stuff like that. 737 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 4: So I rode with Jeremy. Uh, you know, Ken is cool. 738 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: Me and Johnny are probably like the closest. We talk 739 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 4: a lot. And I'm really cool with Jimmy as well. 740 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: And Truv. I'm cool with Treuv as well. 741 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever turned your locations on in a relationship? 742 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: No? Never, never, but uh maybe I should write more. 743 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: Trust Just be careful. 744 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 5: With your wife, yes, with the woman you are sure. 745 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: Is going to be your wife? 746 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 747 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well listen. I do appreciate you 748 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: for coming up and actually clearing up a lot of things. 749 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: You know, we did see a lot like you said 750 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: on TV, but a lot of it does get edited, 751 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: you know. So I think the main thing, the main 752 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: takeaway is that you are working on yourself and you 753 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: do look forward to being. 754 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: Married one day. 755 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 756 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: Do you think Ad just wasn't the right person or 757 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: you think it's not the right time. 758 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: I just I said it. I didn't think it was 759 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: the right time. 760 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 4: I just felt like because I said I wanted to 761 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: date Ad after, but you know, Ad was very focused 762 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: on being a wife at. 763 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: That time, right, So plus, you can't say no at 764 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: the altar and then be like, but let's keep dating. 765 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah that's tough. That's tough. 766 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 5: I have a best friend who they called off their 767 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 5: wedding and I thought they were going to break up 768 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 5: and they stayed together and got married like years later. 769 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know, you might spend the block it 770 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: get right, It could happen. 771 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty lot. I mean, hey, I 772 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: get it. 773 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 4: I didn't understand the magnitude of, you know, the wedding 774 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 4: altar saying no. But I'm just like yo, Ad like 775 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: we actually, so we had a good two weeks you know, 776 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 4: prior to that, I feel like you've seen like episode 777 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: like ten and eleven. We really didn't have too much 778 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 4: drama like we did in the beginning. And honestly, like 779 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: two weeks is like two months. So we had like 780 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: a really good ride to the end. So I felt 781 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 4: like the momentum that we had although I said no, 782 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: like all the times before. 783 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: That, we had a great relationship. 784 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: So I didn't think it was like, you know, crazy 785 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 4: to say, hey, like let's be in a relationship. But 786 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 4: also too, I understand her, you know you, I said, no, 787 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: what the altar is like rejection. 788 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: So the way how she goes. 789 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: About it, I can't judge, right, and I give her 790 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: grace in that, And like I said, I support ad 791 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: and everything she does. 792 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: So do you guys still speak now? 793 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're still cool. 794 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. 795 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah for sure. 796 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: Would you still like ask her out, let's go do something, 797 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: let's go eat or that's kind of let. 798 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: A d lead with that, you know what I'm saying, 799 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: because you know, you know, a couple of times at 800 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: the reunion, like a couple of times, like you know, me, 801 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: like I'm not. 802 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: Gonna be chasing too much. 803 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: Like you know, like if I asked you to do something, 804 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 4: you like, you know, don't really respond to it. I'm 805 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 4: not gonna keep on accing, you know. I'm you know, 806 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna put it out there. 807 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: But you know, what, is your dad doing any therapy 808 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: or anything like that or just you like or because 809 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: like you said, the family is healing from certain things 810 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: that you guys learned about each other. Is the whole 811 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: family working on things or are you alone just going 812 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: to therapy? 813 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: No, No, my dad's working on as well. It's actually 814 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: really good. 815 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: My dad actually had a meeting with the family and 816 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: apologize to my mom, he apologized to the kids, and 817 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 4: so I just feel like the world needs to just 818 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: back off off my dad a little bit because like 819 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: he had the healing, he apologized, and he's put in 820 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: the work, like he we have a group chat where 821 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: he talks to us every single day. He wants to 822 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 4: understand he could be a better father. And I mean 823 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 4: that's accountability right there, Like, yeah, you take, you make, 824 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: you tell, you have an l but like it's how 825 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: you respond, and my dad has responded tremendously. 826 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: So you know, shout out to him. 827 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And that's something that for a lot of people to 828 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: learn from you. 829 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: For a family, Yeah, it is because he probably had 830 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: no idea, Like you know, I mean, people do things 831 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: and they're not even thinking about like the consequences. 832 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: And how it affects people. 833 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to hear that from you, all right, well, good, 834 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: we appreciate it. We're going to be following you, following 835 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: your business what you do reality TV again. 836 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: Right now, I'm gonna say no, but yeah, we'll see. 837 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to say, you know, I don't never. 838 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Never know what you know. 839 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: What I wanted to ask you, what are some things 840 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: you feel like could have made this experience better? You 841 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: know they're always talking about well this season they're doing 842 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: this differently because the cast said this, But like, if 843 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: you could give feedback and say this would have been 844 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: helpful for me while I was on the show, Well 845 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: are some things that you think would be helpful? 846 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: I think it would just been helpful. I did my 847 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: homework before going on the show. I'm just put it 848 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: on me. I wish I like watched it for going on, 849 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: like watching some of the other cast members, Like I'm 850 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 4: not saying that they did anythink fake, but you could 851 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: just tell that they knew. 852 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: Like what to expect, had a finest thing a little 853 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: bit where I'm just like. 854 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: I need to see your boobs and TV like that, 855 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: you know, so like you know, it's like, hey, chill out, Clay. 856 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: I ain't the point of the show, so I kind 857 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: of wish that I watched it. But I think the 858 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: producer did a great job of outlining and everything. 859 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: So okay, so you're you were fine with the way 860 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: everything was. 861 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: I was fine. 862 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: It was on you, all right, there we go, Clay 863 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: with the accountability therapy is working. 864 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: All right. 865 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys, Well, thank you Clay so much 866 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: for joining us. How can people follow you also but 867 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: not troll you? 868 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 869 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, follow me on Clay Underscore, Grave Sandy thats c 870 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: l A Y Underscore g R A V E, s 871 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 4: A N D E. And then Wave Sandy Water Rentals 872 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: come hollow us. We outside in Charlotte. We got jet cars, 873 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: jet skis, boats, come have a good time. 874 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: That's a cooling Graves Sandy. 875 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's actually Waves Sandy play. 876 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much, and can lady 877 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: slide in your DMS too? You said your single now right. 878 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: I'm single. I'm single, but like, hey, i'm healing. Might 879 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: not get a response from me. 880 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: All right, it's the way up.