1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Fantasy Pros Fantasy Fest twenty twenty six. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Warmley, joined by Chris Welsh and Lance Brosdowski 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: to talk some breakout pictures. Few people that I trust 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: more when talking about this position, so of course we 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: had to head Lance on for this segment. Thanks for 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: hopping on, buddy, What's up? 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: What's going on? How are you? 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Lance is a great get. I want to give a plug. Also, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: everybody should be following Lance Brosowski on his YouTube. Lance, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: you have done just such a killer job of curating 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: like really great fun ways to consume so many like 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: analytical things that can burn people's brains out. I attempt 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: when we talk about shows to like trial those dumbed 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: down conversations sometimes because sometimes it just burns people's brains. 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: But you have been an industry go to for industry people. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: I have done it myself as well as a bunch 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: of consumers. So there's really almost nobody better we could. 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Have on here. 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: So I just want to say a fantastic job and 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: plug that YouTube, my friend. 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Appreciate that a. 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Lot much better intro from Wels than I gave this. 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, alright. I just I love having Lance on. 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: Lance did this with us last year. We had a 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: and I just want to point out, you want to 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: go back. We don't want to ever do the whole 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: like Victory Laps or anything. 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: Like I forgot who I picked. 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Well, No, we had this great Rokie conversation where Roy 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: at the time was like everyone's about a good Roki. 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: Roki was like the version of Nolan McClain this year, 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: which I hope I'm not putting a bad juju on, 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: but like you and I, we had this long discussion 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: on that kind of bringing down the expectations of Roki Sazaki, 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: and that was a really good thing. That was a 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: good thing that we had kind of tempered those expectations, 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: which ironically kind of still is lingering here on what's 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: going to happen. But it was a really great episode, 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: and I'm excited to get into these I've got two guys. 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: I don't even know why I'm talking here. Lance has 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: got a couple, but I'm little tease here wor Lance 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: has got one. Actually you should go to me first 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: to get one of mine out of the way, because 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: Lance has got an absolutely absurd name on here that 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to hear I'm so excited to hear it. 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's level follow your lead here. Well I 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: should go to you first. 48 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get this one out of the way. Well, 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: more than anything, let's get Lance's take on this, because 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: he's already been talked about in this episode. Breakout is 51 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: probably very loose at this point because he's becoming a 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: big target. But Emmachi Han Emmachian is definitely one of 53 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: my guys. The breakout started last year, I think the 54 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: continuation is eminent, and one of the biggest things in 55 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: using him as a breakout is that I think he 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: could end up being the most valuable pitcher not named Yamamoto. 57 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: I think we're in a realm of possibility. It's tough 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: to say with Otani Ifotani got the full run here, 59 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: but he had a two eighty two ERA this past year, 60 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: sub one whip, thirty percent k percentage, seven percent walk rate, 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: which you love to see. Expected era was right in 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: there with rates on the slider. Looked phenomenal. Big three pick, 63 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: and he's the guy that's not in, I think, in 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: any real big competition. So we've already talked about him 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: on the fest. I don't want to go two nuts 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: with it, but he's like a become a must draft 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: player for me. And the breakout side of this is, 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: like I said, it's him no longer being the He's 69 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: after Snell, He's after Glass Now. Snell is already going 70 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: to be limited with innings, Glass news kind of perpetually. 71 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: I just think there's a realm of possibility where Emmit 72 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: Sheen is the more trustworthy option. 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Think of it like. 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: This, Emmett Shehan could be to what Brian Wu was 75 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: with the Mariners last year. Brian Wu was like the 76 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: fourth ish starting pitcher that was taken and then he's 77 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: kind of vaulted up into kind of being the number 78 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: two most trustworthy guy. So I think innings are going 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: to be bound. I think there's a lot of fantasy production. 80 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: He is my breakout pitcher. But Lance, what do you 81 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: think about Emmachian? 82 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: It's a good one. Yeah. I like it purely from 83 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: an inning standpoint. I think the Dodgers do not care 84 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: about regular season pitching innings, so like I find it 85 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: really difficult to click Snell Glass now even the Amamoto 86 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: like yep, I just if those guys go down, they're 87 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: down for a month and a half. Even if it's like, oh, 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: I have a tiny blisters. They're peaking guys for October. 89 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: They're the one team that's projected for like nearly probably 90 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: one hundred wins. What is their over I don't even 91 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: know what they're over under is. But as a result 92 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: of that, they just don't, like they don't care about 93 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: regular season innings, Like I don't know what to say. 94 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: So it's like, that's why I'm always a little bit 95 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: hesitant even looking at what projections have for innings. I 96 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: think for most of those guys, I just take off 97 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: ten to fifteen because I'm just like, listen, my meeting 98 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: projection on all these guys is lower. The reason I 99 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: like Shean is that he feels like the guy that 100 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: if they're gonna throttle someone, they throttle him, you know, 101 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: like he's just the fourth best starter when they get 102 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: to the postseason, So that guy is just inherently gonna 103 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: have to cover more regular season innings. So to me, 104 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: it's really like an innings equation, Like he's a good pitcher. 105 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: He used to be like more of a forcing change guy, 106 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: and now he's like way more forcing slider and that 107 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: slider's sick. But yeah, it's really like an Innings equation 108 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: for me here, and I think it's a sharp pick and. 109 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: The throttle of what you said, just as one last go, 110 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: because I'm very excited to hear Lance's take on his 111 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: first guy, is that the throttle idea is that they'll 112 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: just let him go. I think it is because exemple, 113 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: m you're a waddling thing. They're gonna take him down. 114 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: But like they can run a play they can have 115 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: a playoff run where it is Yamamoto, sale glassed nowt 116 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: and Otani and Emma she Hen's not in there, so 117 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: the comfortability of them pushing him one seventy they can 118 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: do that. They don't they don't have to care about him. 119 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: And there could be other names that are in there 120 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: as well, So Emicchi in very popular name. 121 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: You know. 122 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: I'm definitely not asleep or anything like that, but I 123 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: think the breakout is next mister worm. 124 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: I did want to ask, well, just he's forty second 125 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: starting pitcher off the board, one hundred and thirty eighth overall, 126 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: where would you take him? 127 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: I've got him in that like early thirty range, so 128 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: I like really love Chase Burns this year, and I'm 129 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: trying to take Chase Burns as much as possible. Nolan 130 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: McLain is, I'm starting to get priced out a little bit, 131 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: but I love Chase Burns and I'm going boring pitching early. 132 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: So I like really want Logan web on my team. 133 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 3: And frankly, if I get like Logan Webb and George Kirby, 134 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: they're boring as hell. And then let me get a 135 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: couple like high Upside Arms. I'm not afraid to take 136 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: a Chase Burns and an Amachi and so I think 137 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: in the like one hundred overall range, Like I really 138 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: like those guys. I could get them as SP three four. 139 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: I think I'm doing okay, it's just for being honest. 140 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 3: The cost is rising on not just Burns but Emmachi 141 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: Hens as well. 142 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: All right, Lance, Well, she just teased it enough. Who's 143 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: your first pick here? 144 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: I gotta see if I have the order correct here 145 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: or if your graphics guy's just going off what I say. 146 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: But let's start with Matthew Librator. Can I do that? 147 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: And you can do that? That's not the guy. But 148 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: let's say you got to hang around. Yeah, I love that. 149 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, librator is fun. So I think as we've seen 150 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: on the modeling side, like I'm a big nerd. I 151 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: love like, you know, stuff models and stuff and playing 152 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: around with that information and whatnot. You know, put out 153 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: a push this year where he bumped up a lot 154 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: of left handed pitchers, and Stephen Nesbit at The Athletic 155 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: had a really good piece last year about how lefties 156 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: like were uh attributed to like a larger portion of 157 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 2: side votes and also just like the topy arra names, 158 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: like all those guys are lefties. What we're seeing is 159 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: like lefties historically have really consolidated mixes because if you 160 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: think of okay, I just need a foreseene in some 161 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: change your armside fait to get a righty out, because 162 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: I'm facing righty seventy five percent of the time, as 163 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: most left handed pitchers are. And Libertar is a fascinating 164 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: example of the modern approach to pitching, which is like, 165 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: just give me a bazillion different pitch shapes and throw 166 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: them in like relative proportions. And he mixes that with 167 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: the fact that his release points really odd. He's very 168 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: like centered over the rubber. It's kind of like fromber Valdez, 169 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: but he's just a lot taller, bigger dude, and as 170 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: a result of that he creates like really weird angles. 171 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: To me, he's very in this, like i'd see even 172 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: like the fromber Valdez area where he's like very centered 173 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: and he's throwing pitches at righty's that then kind of 174 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: come back towards the inner third so he's able to 175 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: grab cold strikes. Up with the four scene, he throws 176 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: a little sink. It's got a cutter, it's got a 177 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: slider curve. He was playing like a splitter. It sounds 178 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: this spring, which I would love to see as a 179 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: compliment to his change up, because I really like his 180 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: early count change up, so it'd be cool if he's 181 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: throwing both. The spring data I saw mostly he shows 182 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: no splitter, so I don't know if that's like something 183 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: in the bag he has to get him up to 184 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: eight pitches. He had a good run early last year 185 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: as well, and then he kind of fell off as 186 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: the Vila fell back. I don't see him sitting like 187 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: ninety four in spring, so that's one thing I'm maybe 188 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: watching as to whether I'm like crazy hyped about this 189 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: or more just think he's value where he's going and such, 190 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: But I just think he's a good picture than the 191 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: Cardinals are on the up and up from a development 192 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: standpoint with him Bloom at the Helm, they pulled in 193 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: a couple guys from the Mariners, Guardians and Pirates, Like 194 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: they've really consolidated to the pitching of minds. So those 195 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: old days of like the Cardinals Devil Magic, where every 196 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: picture they brought up was amazing, I think might be 197 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: coming back to some extent, but it'll be much more founded, 198 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: I think, in data and modern approaches to pitching. So 199 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: he just has some weird traits that I'm not entirely 200 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: sure projections are capturing properly, and I like going off 201 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: those guys rather than saying, you know, I just think 202 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: his innings will be higher or something along those lines. 203 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of trying to id the guy that 204 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: like has an AVERAGEI ish projection, but I think I 205 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: see some things that can push him into the you know, 206 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: the low fours or high three's era area and also 207 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: give you close to like one hundred and sixty plus innings. 208 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: He's pretty much free in drafts based on Fantasy Pro's 209 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: most recent eighty. He is he somebody that you would 210 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: want to reach a few rounds for late to try 211 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: and sure you get him, or somebody that you want 212 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: to see if he falls to you, like as late 213 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: as he gets. 214 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'm I'm cool taking him, as is 215 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: most of these guys I want to talk about. It's 216 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: usually like a round or to jump because like as 217 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: you get that lee in a draft, like I like, 218 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: most of those guys are not gonna be on your team. 219 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: So what I like doing is just especially like NFFC 220 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: formats or and bc scus ME formats, just like my 221 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: entire bench is starting pitchers, you know, or relievers, Like 222 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: I just want the entire bench to be starting pitchers 223 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 2: and relievers because then I get some looks at these 224 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: guys in the first week or two, and then we 225 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: get you know, modeling data from stuff. Plus we get 226 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: an understanding like where's the upside on these guys, and 227 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: then I could turn through. So Librador is one of 228 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: those guys that just add to every bench. You know, 229 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 2: it's like cool, he's my last pick, second last pick, 230 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: third to last. You know, I'll mix it up. But 231 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: like if I end up with him on like more 232 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: than fifty percent of teams that don't play in a 233 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: ton of leagues like you guys and stuff. If I 234 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: end up with him on more than like fifty percent 235 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: of teams on my bench, totally fine. Let me get 236 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: a look early. He was great to start last year, 237 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: Like we get that same boost he'll be in my rotation, 238 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: especially against teams that starting lineup, especially against teams that 239 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: don't farewell versus left handed pitching. So yeah, I'm in 240 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: on him. It's not like, oh my god, this guy's 241 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: gonna be like a top twenty pitcher. It's just more 242 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: I think where he's going is not totally in line 243 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: with the value that he will produce most. 244 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: Likely, well show you interested in librator. 245 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the end of rounds, whatever, the last 246 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: two or three rounds in any draft, is meant for 247 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: dart throws and whatever that darts thro ends up looking like. 248 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: And if Lance Brasdowski says that Matthew libertoor is worth 249 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: a dart throw, I'm going to listen. So yes, I 250 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: think he the guy that I'm going to talk about 251 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: kind of fits that same mold. So I'm into whatever 252 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: the calculation is. If it's somebody that you really like 253 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 3: to listen to or you trust, whether it is something 254 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: you've seen in data, Like you want to take shots, 255 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: don't just like oh I got to like fill out 256 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: this last thing. No, take your highest opportunity shots and 257 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: then if it doesn't work out, you end up streaming. 258 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: I want to let everybody know that today we are 259 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: giving away a signed Wan Gonzales Rangers jersey right here 260 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: during the Fantasy Fest. All you have to do to 261 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: enter is subscribe to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Baseball YouTube 262 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: channel right now, drop a comment on this stream, and 263 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: that is it. We will be announcing one lucky winner 264 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: towards the end of the stream, so stay tuned and 265 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: send those comments. I believe we will be announcing a 266 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: winner for that during the mock draft that we're doing 267 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: next hour. And we've actually decided to open up that 268 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: mock draft to our listeners, so we'll be drafting not 269 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: just against each other, Welsh and Kelly, but we'll also 270 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: be drafting against some listeners. So be on the lookout 271 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: for that link in the chat as well, so they 272 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: will be dropping that in there in the next you know, 273 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minutes before we get to the top 274 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: of the hour and you can draft against myself Welsh 275 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: and Kelly Kirby. All right, let's get to the next 276 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: breakout picture. Now, Lance, you have two left here, Welsh, 277 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: he says, one, So let's go back to you for 278 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: another one. 279 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: Cool, I'm gonna I'm gonna again the push the grimmy one. 280 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: Late You've got to hang around for this, so we'll 281 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: go camp Schlateler. This one's a little more in vogue. 282 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: I would say, this, dude's unbelievable. You go back to 283 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three in the minors, he was seeing ninety 284 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: miles per hour fastball. If you've got to September of 285 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: last season, he was seeing ninety eight. Like, I don't 286 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: think we've ever seen anybody like jump eight miles per 287 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: hour in average. Feelin Now, the counter is just his 288 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: elbow is gonna explode, which, to be fair like totally possible. 289 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna be able to predict that, you know, 290 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: with any reliability whatsoever. So I'm just like, I don't 291 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: really care, you know, Like, I just think he's such 292 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: a good pitcher from what he can do, and he 293 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: succeeded last year throwing a bunch of forcing fastball, and 294 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: I personally do not think that's gonna be the template 295 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: that he follows this season. So you already have success 296 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: with him, and now you can layer in the fact 297 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: that he started throwing sinkred right he's late in the year. 298 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: You can layer in the fact that in spring this 299 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: cutter thing he has is like ninety five now, which 300 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: is one of the true like we're bordering on unicorn 301 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: territory pitches. I think that phrase is often overused. It's 302 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: basically like Kenley Jansen's cutter and William's change up to 303 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: me and then the Corbyn Burns. It's very comparable to 304 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns in terms of what he's doing. It's just 305 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: an insane pitch to me, He's gonna use more. He 306 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: used to throw a change up in the past. It 307 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if they bring that back. I just 308 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: think he's insane. Like he's a really good picture again, 309 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: like the innings projection here, Sure there's some variants in it, 310 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to pay up for him. I think 311 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: he's going probably inside like the top one thirty ish area. 312 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 2: Last time I've seen. 313 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: Twenty fifth overall yeah, perfect. 314 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: So, I mean he's around some guys who maybe have 315 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: a higher innings floor from what I've seen. But like 316 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: if again, like you were mentioning like Logan web stacking 317 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: some of these guys that have flour, Like I like 318 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: that kind of combination in drafts of going with flour 319 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: and then mixing in a guy like this. There's a 320 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: lot of other fun names around here. I just wasn't 321 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: gonna pick all these guys that have like somewhat aggressive 322 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: projections already. I love Kate Hora and Shane boz Bluhba, Shandler, 323 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: those guys are all really fun. But slither to me 324 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: if like you give him one hundred and fifty innings, like, 325 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident he's gonna be like a top fifteen pitcher, 326 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: top twenty pitcher like he is. I just think we're 327 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: underrating like how good he is from a raw shape standpoint, 328 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: and the fact that he dominated last year using a 329 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: mix that I'm convinced he's not gonna use it. He's 330 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: gonna use a more optimal mix from a swing this standpoint, 331 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: contact neutralizing standpoint, Like, I just I don't know if 332 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: we look he's the guy to me beyond the top 333 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: one hundred. Let's say that if we're drafting him as 334 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: like a sixth or seventh overall pitcher next year, I 335 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised at all. 336 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: Interesting thing with that is ATC is projecting one hundred 337 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: and thirty one innings a three to nine era, and 338 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: let me look not look at K per nine and 339 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: it would be like a twenty three and a half 340 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: K percentage. Where do you think that's off K percentage? 341 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: For sure K percentage? A break up video I did 342 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: on YouTube has often something that I'm looking at that 343 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: can jump like he could easily be like a twenty 344 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: five to twenty seven percent guy in my opinion. And 345 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: this goes back to the usage point, like I'm very 346 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: confident we're going to look at April and May for 347 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: him and he's not gonna be throwing fifty five percent fastball, 348 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: you know. And it's like that is where you can 349 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: id like I think we get into the problem of 350 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: double counting sometimes with projections where you're like, well, I 351 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: don't like his injury history or something like that. It's like, well, 352 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: like the models are generally pricing that a RIGHTD like 353 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: they're giving him one hundred and thirty. You know, maybe 354 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: they're not pricing an eight mile per hour jump in things, 355 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But a lot of the time, 356 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: like what you're like, I don't like the park he 357 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: plays him like I hear this aton, It's like, no, 358 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: that's already baked into the projection. So if you're using 359 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: a projection as your baseline, like the things that you 360 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: might be highlighting as like I don't like or do like, 361 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: they're already accounting for. So the risk you run into 362 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: is like double counting it. It's like he pitches that 363 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: great American that's already factored into fifty percent of his starts, 364 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: you know, so it's like, we gotta tell me a 365 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: better reason why you don't like him. So a lot 366 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: of the time, for me, it's trying to id like 367 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: what is this guy going to change from usage perspective 368 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: or mixed perspective that can throw off something else from 369 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: a peripheral perspective, which could really push him forward. And 370 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: it's a lot of the time it's strikeout right. For me, 371 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: it's like they project him as a twenty three percent guy. 372 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: It's like, cool, if I told this model right now, 373 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: he's only throwing forty percent fastball, He's throwing way more cutter. 374 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: He's got a new change up and like he just 375 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: backs off the pitch that doesn't miss as many bats. 376 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Like you can probably push him over twenty three percent 377 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: pretty easily, and that's how you really get up into 378 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: the upper run of Like, yeah, this guy's far better 379 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: than projections. 380 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: Super interesting, just quickly wet before it gets to your player. 381 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, because this is the highest ranked 382 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: player in the segment that we're talking about SB thirty five. 383 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: You know, is that like where where would you guys 384 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: want to be taking us? Both of you? Well? 385 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: You first, Yeah, I mean I think, like if I'm 386 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: being honest, like I haven't really targeted him, like I 387 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: I think there's only so many young guys of the young, 388 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: this young exciting group. Sure, yeah, and you kind of 389 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: got to like find all right, what's my group? My 390 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: group is Chase Burns and then Bubba Chandler and I 391 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: know Lancer. 392 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: And I love both those a lot. 393 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: Those are like two I'm trying to hitch my wagon too, 394 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: So that get that got me off of your savage 395 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: before everybody started hating him. That kind of got me 396 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: off of Schlitler. I'm not really on Miserowski, so I 397 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: haven't really taken him, but I'm down if burns a 398 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: mccleaner off the board. Maybe Miserowski. I'm probably not targeting 399 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: him anyways, but like in that one, I think right 400 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: around his ADP, I'm a little bit more ADP on him. 401 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: But I think the story that lance H wrote there 402 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. 403 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I totally agree. I think I think it's 404 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: about like construction of your staff. You know. It's like 405 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: I'm seeing like Kevin Gossman's kind of in that area. 406 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean I'm convicting everyone's projecting Kevin gossper 407 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: for like one hundred and eight innings and really really 408 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: strong stability, but like his velo is down last year. 409 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: You know, like he's never had a good slider. He's 410 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: thrown two pitches. Like the what is the upside there? 411 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: You know, It's like if you go a little aggressive 412 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: and take more variant starting pitchers early, then Schlill, there's 413 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: probably not the way to go. You maybe want to 414 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: lean a gospeler just to create some floor, but if 415 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: you're in like a shorter league where you know you 416 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: can acquire pitching on the waiver, like say you're in 417 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: a twelve teamer friends and family, a draft or something 418 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: along those lines, and like you know, you can like 419 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: fleece people with fab and stuff, or just be aggressive 420 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: early like I would. I would be okay, taking like 421 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: one horse and then just piling up, like getting Cam, 422 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: getting Bubba, double tapping Burns and Schlitler and then going Bubba. 423 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: If you like really went a position prospect heavy or 424 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: position player, have excuse me earlier in a draft and 425 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: just make your staff like I'm just hunting the guy 426 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: who is going to be the top five pitcher in 427 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: base I know I could backfill because these waivers are 428 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: deep or something like. That's strategically where I really like Schlitzler, 429 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: and I hope that applies to a lot of people. 430 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: In super competitive legues, I think he's priced appropriately, But 431 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: in home leagues or anything where I think I have 432 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: a slight edge over people, he's gonna be on almost 433 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: every single one of my teams. 434 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: We've got one breakout picture left for each of you. 435 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Well shitty have. 436 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be quick about mine. This is one of 437 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 3: my favorite, probably like number one pitcher to take at 438 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: the end of drafts right now, and it is Cody 439 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: Ponce with the Blue Jays who's come back over. Yeah, adp, 440 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: you see a two eighty four in a lot of 441 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: like you know, and obviously not like the big draft 442 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: and holds, but like any consumer based leagues, you're going 443 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: to be able to get him at the end. And 444 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: you know, we've already seen it this spring. You know, 445 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: when he's come back over, we've seen a two plus 446 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: mile an hour increase on his fastball, if not more. 447 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 3: He's been pumping high in the zone, added some more 448 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: vert to it. He added that kick change, which looks 449 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: like it's going to be inducing some whiffs very early on. 450 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 3: And I know this is like a stupid little thing, 451 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: but there's just a part of me that's like, I 452 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: saw that video and I've said this before. I saw 453 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: that video of like Cody Ponce walking with Dylan Sees 454 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: and Kevin Gosman and talking, and it's like, man, what 455 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: a great group of guys for him is he is 456 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: like learning to redevelop his arsenal and you know the 457 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: closeness of splitters to change up and him adding that 458 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: kick change up, like what could be going on? In there. 459 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: He has not walked a batter so far in spring 460 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: through three outings. The strikeouts seemed to be there the fastball, 461 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: and that's like the most interesting thing here is the 462 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: fastball's high v. Low and how it's playing up. Seems 463 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: like at least on the early on set, as long 464 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: as he keeps commanding it is going to really set 465 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: up that cutter he's throwing. I think he's got a 466 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 3: little bit of a splitter action in there and that 467 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: kick change up. I think there's a possibility we could 468 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: see like a twenty five percent k percentage out of 469 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: Cody Ponts. And I think he's going to be like 470 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: a massive value at the end of drafts. And I 471 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: think they're going to just run him in tons of 472 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: innings as well. I mean, this is a KBO MVP, 473 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: So I'm very much in on Cody Ponts at the 474 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: end of pretty much all my drafts right now. 475 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: What do you think about Ponds, Lance, Yeah, he's a 476 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: good one. 477 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: I did a lot of work on him coming over 478 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: from MPB. I feel like I often lock in on 479 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: that he's like you get hid and stuff. It's always 480 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: hard to like project exactly what the shapes will look like. 481 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: I'll admit I haven't actually looked at his spring stuff 482 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: too much, but I did like what I saw coming over, 483 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: Like he felt to me like one of the higher 484 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: floor guys to swing over from MPB, just because I 485 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: thought like the raw fastball foundation was better than someone 486 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: like the Drew Anderson's and these other guys that came 487 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: over that I wasn't entirely sure where they got as 488 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: much money as they did. And I will say, like 489 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, I think are on an up and 490 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: up team from a development standpoint, and I'm curious to 491 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: see what they layer on top of him from like 492 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: Dalan see some I'm praying they figure out that change 493 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: up thing that's just been terrible for years and he 494 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: trolls people with it and it's not hard. How's that 495 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: guy Nott throwing a better change up? But Ponce is 496 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: in the area where like the Blue Jays like splitters 497 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 2: if you look at like their minor league data, So 498 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: I think they perhaps just see something here from like 499 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: a big dude, high release, pretty downhill plane. But he's 500 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: got enough in his mix to probably be like a 501 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: pretty steady name that I think is value relative to 502 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: ADP as wells just saying not entirely sure if like, like, 503 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: what does the breakout look like is a good question 504 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: as well, but relative to the ADP, like think I 505 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: think he's appropriate. He's a good name for depth if 506 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: you want like a nice floor ceiling combo as opposed 507 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: to just like absolutely taken a prayer around a guy 508 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: who maybe has no shot to be anywhere near at 509 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: productives ponds. 510 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the breakout could simply be a guy 511 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 3: that you get at the end and you assume as 512 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: a streamer to a guy that you don't cut and 513 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: you hold on to for the season and he eats 514 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 3: up innings. Like I agree. I don't think he's a 515 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: top thirty pitcher or anything like that, but from irrelevant 516 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: to being relevant is kind of the look now the 517 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: Grand Prize though, yes. 518 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah it's Chase the Lander. This one's crazy, but I'm 519 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: all in on it. So I think that again getting 520 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: to our point of like I use projections all the time, 521 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: like that's my baseline, you know, and I try to 522 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: understand like what's built into those projections. There's two teams 523 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 2: in particular this season that I'm very confident will change 524 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: usage patterns such that I would say the error rate 525 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: on the Rockies projections from a pitching standpoint in the 526 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: Nationals projections from a pitching standpoint have the most error, 527 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: Like the bandwidthin those are going to be the most incorrect. 528 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 2: And we've seen this with the Nationals in spring as well. 529 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: I know I'm talking about the Nationals on a Rockets pitcher. 530 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: Hang with me. The Nationals cut a ton of force 531 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: fastball usage. If I'm the Rockies, they'd finally brought in 532 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: outside voices. I go in there and I look at 533 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: every single one of those pictures, and I go, stop 534 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 2: throwing fastballs and sinkers as much as you are. We're 535 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 2: trying to limit ball and play. We don't mind if 536 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: we accept some more walks, but what we're gonna do 537 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: is throw better pitches more. We're gonna throw shorter sliders 538 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 2: that don't aren't as affected as much by the altitude, 539 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: or we're gonna throw splits. Dolander is the one that 540 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: has the velocity alongside interesting release traits, and velocity is 541 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: probably like the number one thing if you're trying to 542 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: like reinvent a pitcher at cores, because it protects against 543 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: bad shape. So if you're like ninety two going in there, 544 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: your shapes are gonna contract so much you're just gonna 545 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: be useless as a picture. You throw as hard as 546 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: he does, they give him a sweeper. It sounds like 547 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: in Spring. I like that versus rieties. He had more 548 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: lefty problems than righty problems. So I'm trying to figure out, 549 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: like how exactly do you get him to be a 550 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: little bit better versus lefties? So he's probably a guy again, 551 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: this is more draft in hole. It's a really deep 552 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: cut name. He should not be on benches in twelve 553 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: team ers. He's a guy will throw like the little 554 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: the little eyeball thing out of a watch just to 555 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 2: see like he's he's a draft and hold type. Last 556 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: dish man. I know his ADP is like a thousand 557 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: or onndn't you know what his ADP is. 558 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: I literally just searched and. 559 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: Like no, Ye always drafted him. So this is like 560 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: the grimiest of the grind. But I want to use 561 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: him because it's emphatic and it makes a point. But 562 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: I will say again, like a Cavali is a good examples. 563 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: He's got an opening day start already, it's in Chicago, 564 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, against the Cubs, so maybe that's a decent 565 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: environment in the pitching from Like it's going to be 566 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: freezing cold here in the week and a half when 567 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: they have that game. But all these pictures I just 568 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: want to highlight, like when you're looking at projections with them, 569 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: like except the fact that they're gonna be I think, 570 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: more wrong on those two teams and they will be 571 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: probably on any other team because they're not going to 572 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: be able to anticipate strategy changes. And when you have 573 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: huge personnel changes like this, like you're just going to 574 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 2: see different usage and it's gonna help some guys just 575 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: a matter of idem which guys. But uh, I think 576 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: like a Cavali and a Dolin, there are great examples 577 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: of like good young pitchers who throw hard, who have 578 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: some traits that work, that will work, and if they 579 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: can optimize all of a sudden, you get a better picture. Listen, 580 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: it's Dolander is like he's gonna be a road only 581 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: star streamer and like it's all these weird qualifications, But 582 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: I think it's a fun pick because one is, no 583 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: one is saying this guy's gonna be better, and I'm 584 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 2: pretty convinced he's not gonna be as terrible as he 585 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: was last year, If that makes any sense. 586 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: I've I've got a very quick funny story about him. 587 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: So I live in Denver and my buddy out here 588 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: is a big Astros fan. And when the Astros were 589 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: in town, we went to a game. We were waiting 590 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: to walk in with our tickets, and we noticed that 591 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: the two sort of elderly people in front of us 592 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: in line had chased Dolander jerseys on and we were like, 593 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: they have to be relatives or something, right, There's no 594 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: way there's like multiple Dolander And he was pitching that night, 595 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: and one of the guys had a hat from like 596 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Augusta National. So my buddy was like, oh, I've been. 597 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: I've been there, you know, to see the Masters. Have 598 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: you been there too? So we struck up a conversation 599 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: and the guy very proudly, at midway through the conversation goes, 600 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: by the way, our grandson is pitching tonight for the Rockies. 601 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: That turned out to be their grandparents. He gave up 602 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: six earned runs, was gonna say, yeah, it was not 603 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: a great start. 604 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: He didn't watch and they left in the yeah. 605 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: Course, Yeah, it's a great idea. 606 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Welsh, what I mean, obviously you were surprised by 607 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: this inclusion here. What do you think about the case 608 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: Lance makes for chick Listen? 609 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: I think it's fun. Michael Lorenzen said, uh, he, I mean, 610 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: I think it's a hilarious way to justify signing with 611 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: the Rockies. But he said, you know, I like the 612 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: challenge of succeeding in Colorado, and I think a lot 613 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: of people look at it as a challenge. It's it's 614 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: funny though that it's like how many years are we 615 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: going to keep doing this and someone's going to solve it? 616 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: And it hasn't been solved. I thought Doland, this is 617 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: the worst case scenario when he got drafted. I really 618 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: love Dolander and him going to Colorado. You were like, man, 619 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 3: this is brutal. 620 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: Why pitching the draft? 621 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean part of the problem I think you 622 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: see in Colorado and a lot of guys talk about 623 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: is like, you know, you lose spin and dah da da. 624 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: But it's like if if they can take off of 625 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: the fastball and figure out how to get the secondaries going, Like, 626 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 3: I'm open to it to it working. I don't know 627 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 3: what relevance this is gonna end up being, I think, 628 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: But listen, Lance came on here and talked about Edward 629 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 3: Cabrera last year, and Edward Cabrera was a big win 630 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: and that kind of seemed silly with all the Marlins 631 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, like in really deeper leagues, and 632 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: as a road start, this this might be the you know, 633 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: this might be the blueprint. If we see that four 634 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: team go down and we see those secondaries get those 635 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: strikeouts that he was getting at Tennessee in college, Like 636 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: he's got the stuff, he's got the pedigree to do it. 637 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: If he also learns how to hit in Colorado, holy crap. 638 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: You know, maybe it does end up working out. He's 639 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: not he hasn't been on my radar. He's probably at 640 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: this point like a fifty team draft and hold type 641 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: of guy. He literally didn't come up in the search 642 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: of ADP. 643 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: But love it. 644 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: This will be the ultimate like bragging win rights for 645 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: Lance to come back next year. 646 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: We have to this just in case. 647 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: If he's got like a four let me say, if 648 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: he's got a let's say like a four to nine 649 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: at home and a four to two on the road 650 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: of four on the road, Like, that's a win for me, 651 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: that's a win. See, he's being projected as like literally 652 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: the worst bitcher in baseball. 653 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: What if it was like Shane Boz by the way, 654 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: like I remember sa bos last year was five to 655 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 3: nine at home and three yeah, three eight on the road, 656 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: Like that would be that that's the type of working 657 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: Because I'm super into Shane Bazz this year. That's like 658 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: a super big win for a guy like do Landers. 659 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 3: So you know, just everybody pay attention because he starts 660 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: rattling off a couple and Lance isn't going to tell 661 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: you I told you so, He'll tell you. 662 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: We'll tell you he told you so, Revider. For everybody, 663 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: we're doing a mock draft here at the top of 664 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: the hour, so basically right about now, in just a 665 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: couple of minutes, so we got a couple more spots 666 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: than that mock draft. You want to hop in and 667 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: go up against us. 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Please. 682 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: He's a reliever. 683 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. 684 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. He's better reliever 685 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: since the job. I just don't think he's a starter. 686 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: You mean, four innings and nine strikeouts in spring didn't 687 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: change your mind? 688 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: Who is the hitter? It was some kid from Abel's 689 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: Yeah you can, I don't know, Come on, like, listen, 690 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: he's got it. He's gotta do something else, you know, 691 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: Like he flashed a cutter slider thing a triple A 692 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: last year that looked better than like anything he thrown. 693 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: And then he didn't throw when he came back up 694 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: and it doesn't seem like he's using it a ton 695 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: in spring, but like he just he can't survive. Force 696 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: him split if he's spamming split on the back backfields 697 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: in K's nine, Like that just justifies the point that 698 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: he's a believer even more, you know, Like I just 699 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm I know a lot of people 700 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: are still in and hopeful, and I get it's the Dodgers, 701 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: but like I'm just I just think there's weird things 702 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes there. Like I just I 703 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: need him throwing other pitches. Man, Like I think he 704 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: knows it too. I think he said it in an inner. 705 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: It's just like just like, don't allow him to throw 706 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: either forty percent split or a forty percent force him 707 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: in to start and see how he does. Just force 708 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: him to develop the sinker in the cotter and see 709 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: what happens. 710 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: We just did the guys in three words or less 711 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: projections than three words or less, and uh we had 712 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: Roki on there. So just everybody, you can go and 713 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: listen and I probably am going to echo a little 714 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 3: bit of what Lance said there. 715 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, that was a film at last 716 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: one here too quickly. How do you feel about Noah 717 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: camera to get another picture in your lance. 718 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a bad one. That Park's good in 719 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: case you know, he's an audio. He's another one of 720 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: these lefties that, like, I think he had really good 721 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: results relative to underline right where everyone's just like, oh, 722 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: he's gonna regress, and then he ends up. He goes 723 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: through the entire season and you're like, oh, he didn't regress, 724 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: So like then you're in the Andrew Abbott area of 725 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: like trying to figure out if he's just happens to 726 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: be unique enough for something to work. I mean, I'm 727 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: not entirely I don't think I've clicked him much. I 728 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: guess I'm kind of fading into that because I like 729 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: Boobitch a lot. I think he could take another step. 730 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: So like maybe that's the rose lefty that I tend 731 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: to lean towards. But yeah, I mean, I lefties are weird, man, 732 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Like we're doing this with Andrew Abbot, were probably gonna 733 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: do it for with no camera for another year or two, 734 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: where it's just like look at the results and like, 735 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: oh yeah, he'll have a four R NXT year and 736 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: it's like consecutive seasons of like three four's, and it's like, well, 737 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: how is he able to do this? I don't know, 738 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: And those guys are tough to project. So I guess 739 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: I'm that's a switzerland Y way of saying, like, he's 740 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: fine at value, I'm probably not reaching on him. I'm 741 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: probably not fading him. 742 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: Well, sho, any quick thoughts on camera before we get 743 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: to the mock draft. 744 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another one of those guys like I'm willing 745 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: to take a stab towards the end of drafts, like 746 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: playing for upside. But yeah, the weird lefties are floating 747 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: out there, man, So if I guess, if I can avoid, 748 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: I am trying to get some of those higher upside again. 749 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: I am give me more boring players at the tippy 750 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: top and let me go high upside later. That has 751 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: been my strategy pretty much throughout most of the season. 752 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: Hopefully it's gonna pay off. 753 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: Lance, Thank you so much for joining us. I can't 754 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: wait to watch Chase Dollander this year after this converce. 755 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: That's gonna be painful. 756 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: Look at the watch parties. Do YouTube live watch parties? 757 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: Now? 758 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Yes? 759 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm gonna watch it. 760 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna can the box. 761 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: All right for Lance. 762 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Well, thanks everybody for checking in. Don't go anywhere. We're 763 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: back for the next hour with a ten team head 764 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: to Heed mock draft with myself, Welsh and Kelly Kirby 765 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: and some of our listeners. Don't go anywhere, We'll be 766 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: right back. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy 767 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: Baseball podcast. 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