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Speaker 1: Seahawks dot Com. Welcome to the Seahawks Insider Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jen Mueller alongside John Boyle as we get you ready

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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks game in Tampa Bay against the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: It is Thanksgiving weekend and John, it seems like you

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Speaker 1: have to talk about food and you have to talk

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Speaker 1: about Thanksgiving traditions. Right, favorite kind of pie on Thanksgiving? Okay, Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: I think you know. On Thanksgary, I'm gonna go pumpkin.

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Speaker 1: It's not necessarily my favorite pie, but just something about

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Speaker 1: the holiday. I would go with the pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: If you ask me anytime of your favorite pie, it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't make the list. Okay, So here's the debate that's

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Speaker 1: happening in my house. I made two pie. I'm hosting Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: so I'm in charge of, you know, a lot of food.

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Speaker 1: So my Thanksgiving pies are always pumpkin and pecan, and

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Speaker 1: I'll take pecan any day of the week, any month

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Speaker 1: of the year. It is my all time favorite pie.

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Speaker 1: Got myself. Yeah, but to me that's the holidays. Here's

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Speaker 1: the debate in my house. My husband really wants an

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Speaker 1: apple pie. I don't think we need three pies and

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Speaker 1: apple is Thanksgiving sign with your husband, Oh my apple

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Speaker 1: pie is a Thanksgiving pie. I know what I have

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Speaker 1: been working in the kitchen. My efforts are not appreciated,

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Speaker 1: all right. Well, now that we've gotten that out of

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Speaker 1: the way, um and far as favorite pies go, that

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Speaker 1: seems a lot more fun than talking about the injuries

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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks have suffered, which I really think is

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Speaker 1: where the conversation has to start, John, because of the

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Speaker 1: number of them suffered in last week's game against the

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Speaker 1: Eagles and the significance of them. Yeah, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a rough one and both teams had just a

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Speaker 1: ton of injuries. And then you talk about who is

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Speaker 1: missing for this Seahawks this week. You know, we know

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Speaker 1: for sure CJ. Processes out sounds like Earl Thomas and

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Speaker 1: Sean said there's a pretty good chance they'll miss a game.

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Speaker 1: So obviously Michael Bennett is still probably not going to

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Speaker 1: really counting on that. So you're talking about a lot

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Speaker 1: of real important players who are going to be unavailable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that Bennett news is kind of new because at

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Speaker 1: one point last week he really was targeting this game

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Speaker 1: to return. I think he probably wanted to return for

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Speaker 1: you you know, it's not like I think he had

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Speaker 1: go show them what they're missing. So I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: really wanted to get back, but they're not. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're playing in the long game here. This is all about,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep this season going well into

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Speaker 1: the postseason, and you don't want to rush a guy

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Speaker 1: Bennett now is targeting the game a week from now,

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Speaker 1: which would be against Carolina. That's also the date that

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks are expecting to get Mike Morgan back, So

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Speaker 1: that's the silver lining. Knowing that there's going to be

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Speaker 1: And on defense, you hate to see the example of

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Speaker 1: how deep this defense is, but you have seen that

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, this goes back to, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: which is always dangerous when it's a Super Bowl year,

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Speaker 1: Earl Thomas and DeShawn Shead. These aren't serious long term injuries.

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Speaker 1: So eventually this defense is going to look healthier and

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Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think they're too worried about

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Speaker 1: You're always working to be the starter to make that start,

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Speaker 1: folks have asked me about Kelsey mccrays lighting it and

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Speaker 1: and certainly the seas and Arry hope some of those

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston has so much of what you look for

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Speaker 1: I think that that's neat since they are competitors, and

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Speaker 1: that is going to do it for this week's edition

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Speaker 1: of the Seahawks Insider Podcast. Make sure that you check

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Speaker 1: out previous podcasts on seahawks dot com, slash podcast, or

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Speaker 1: you can find us on iTunes. That'll do it for

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