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Speaker 2: way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific.

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Speaker 2: And how the hell we feel in here on this morning?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: Everybody fired up?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We got preseason action? Good coming up later on tonight, we.

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Speaker 3: Got preseason action, all right? Yeah yeah, once an LB,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, that's right. Yeah, man, people getting chippy.

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Speaker 3: I bet you this music was playing when that was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of music are they firing up in

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you that was playing this song right here.

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Speaker 3: It was playing, well, that was taking place, so little Pantera? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: why not? Yeah? Get everybody, get everybody to let they

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Speaker 2: Uh, this is the right about the time in training

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Speaker 2: camp or people have just about had to camp camp

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Speaker 3: That you can have camp by any time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the camp I starts almost immediately that that's what

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Speaker 3: It kind of does start immediately, does it? Like dang,

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Speaker 3: I'm in camp like some people more than others though,

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Speaker 3: like dogs and heat. That's yeah, I mean yes, kind

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Speaker 3: of what it is. You know, you're you're there to hunt.

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Speaker 3: You're you're there, Yeah, you're there to get out there.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes you see one and it's not one that

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Speaker 3: week two, maybe day two, they just look way better.

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Speaker 3: It's like proposition is just way different. You know, here

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, it's a gas gas station food. You know,

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Speaker 2: if there's nothing within one hundred miles is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Crazy. I've never really been in the gas station food say.

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Speaker 4: I've actually never even gas station food either. It's a

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right. You drive a Tesla, got its, that'd

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Speaker 3: Gotta be rich to not want to eat gas.

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Speaker 5: Who drives a Tesla? Do you drive a Tesla?

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Speaker 3: Arms?

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Speaker 5: I drive a Forward.

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Speaker 4: I'm not like one of those guys drove a Toyota

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to, just would be the type

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, you played in high school?

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Speaker 5: I mean how that how the trading camp go for you?

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Speaker 2: Now I'm doing the beating up bowling the ring. You

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that The only thing I'll camp idea is

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Speaker 7: training camp is not what it used to be.

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Speaker 4: You know, we were three days in high school. Like

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Speaker 4: twenty fourteen, and they're like, you know, they're so obsessed

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Speaker 4: So I just I think about how much things have changed.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if the Camp I exist the way it

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Speaker 3: Just I'm gonna tell you what.

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Speaker 5: We got the mouth an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you what makes the camp worse

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Speaker 3: that Camp I was purely based off of what was

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Speaker 3: it's like I'm away from normal society, so whatever, Like

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Speaker 3: dittos and and and papers. Is is it the photographer?

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Speaker 3: Like at some point cats be ready to start blanking

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Speaker 3: that's a good line right there. Like I think I

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Speaker 3: great job, like keep it up. It's camp I. And

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Speaker 3: the reason why I think CAMPI is worse now is

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Speaker 3: because it's not limited to what's right in front of

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Speaker 3: your face. You probably get you probably get social media

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Speaker 3: camp I, and you'll go after people, you will slide

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Speaker 3: in DMS, you'll make poor decisions on what you're doing

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Speaker 3: with your social because point you got CAMPI.

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Speaker 5: That's a great point.

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Speaker 3: So I will.

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Speaker 4: And I wasn't factoring the the ease of you know that,

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Speaker 3: The other day I was like, man, that's a campus site.

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Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent of campus wipe. Like, imagine if

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Speaker 3: let's what y'all call it Let's hook up app? And

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Speaker 3: you're in training camp? Oh your your camp Your camp

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Speaker 3: fire sale. Like you're in danger if you're a camp

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Speaker 3: I type of guy. There's an app called that what can.

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Speaker 3: Let's hook up should be a should be a site

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Speaker 3: and camp I should be also should be a site.

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Speaker 3: They should both be dating site.

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Speaker 3: A campus I can't do everything? Man?

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Speaker 3: That's just can. I don't have the bandwidth to do

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Speaker 3: like they're right, we should do it. App called camp

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Speaker 3: I because all across America you will have football players

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Speaker 3: and they're going to use it. And then camp I

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Speaker 3: and camp D is way more dangerous than camp I

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Speaker 3: camp I. Camp is all about the action of looking

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Speaker 3: and wondering. Camp D is like, yeah, it's like it's

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Speaker 4: It's like windows shopping where it's close to Christmas. You

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Speaker 4: got to you gotta make a decision at some point.

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Speaker 4: You know you're really itching to get something done here

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Speaker 4: to bring it back and uh.

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Speaker 8: This will do that. That's transition thing.

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Speaker 4: It's like I I gotta right, I gotta get this

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Speaker 2: Well station fo Yeah, well, well listen, I do know

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Speaker 2: it's Mike Rabels because a skirmish broke out there was

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Speaker 9: Starts to the head coach, the intensity, bring it every day,

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Speaker 9: there on the field. But also it comes to a

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Speaker 2: I think that's what you want.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Mike Rable is going to end up bailing Bob

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Speaker 2: The Patriots all because he got bloodied up fight, he's changed.

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Speaker 2: Everything has changed there. You don't feel different about that.

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Speaker 3: You do know that the last coach was a linebacker

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Speaker 2: He didn't get bloodied up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, bro, draw Mao is like, that's a

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Speaker 4: I didn't see no one, no one's no one's you know,

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Speaker 5: That is true.

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Speaker 5: I will say this to Jonas's.

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Speaker 4: It feels it feels like something's different in New England.

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Speaker 4: and I think those components are there right now. While

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Speaker 5: Then he's a little bit uh you know, turned up there.

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Speaker 2: He's the best hire of the off season. Everyone's talking

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Speaker 2: And they've spent I think the second most in free agency,

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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, can you know, stay off the two C

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Speaker 2: and you know he doesn't have this Wow, Well.

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Speaker 3: We found out more and more dudes was high playing.

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Speaker 3: Why why stay off of it?

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Speaker 3: Well, then if I'm guys was drinking before games, taking shots.

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Speaker 3: I just saw that. I just saw the.

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Speaker 4: Clip, Like I knew a guy who was habitually high, practice, game, everything.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, he was really consistent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yes, Phil one of the great kickers

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Speaker 4: I'm not advocating for this in any fashion or form,

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Speaker 3: He was stepping in front of sixty thousand people, Yeah you.

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Speaker 4: Got it or yeah, and and maybe it was a

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, all right, if that's what you need

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Speaker 4: Ready, and that's how you play your best or most consistent,

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Speaker 4: all right, you know, as long as it's not going

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Speaker 3: That's uh, you know, I'm joking. But but here's what

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Speaker 3: I will say. Well, he's dec DC guy. Definitely was

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Speaker 4: He's got I promise, I'll promise you this.

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Speaker 5: It was not. It was neither of the two.

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Speaker 3: Just I say he was always high, But I'm just

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Speaker 3: Joe could have been Joe definitely. Joe might have been

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Speaker 4: I would have to be on a college team with

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Speaker 3: A we had a ton of characters on on that

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Speaker 3: Some people have more grace or have more credibility, so

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Speaker 3: the things they do they made Vrabel might be doing

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Speaker 3: Gerard spent time coaching with Bill Belichick. I almost feel like,

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Speaker 3: because he doesn't have that type of reputation, He doesn't

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Speaker 3: In context, sure, it sounds good. He got into the fight,

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Speaker 3: it up, he comes out bloody. It's a great feel

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Speaker 3: good story. But I just think I think it's beat

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Speaker 3: I think it's east in context.

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Speaker 4: Then in context that then ten toes down this team.

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Speaker 4: I bet this team finishes second the division.

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Speaker 3: I bet you this team finishes with less than double

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Speaker 5: The sticks picked. That's so that's such a bad deal.

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Speaker 5: But let's pick where they Let's pick where they finished

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Speaker 3: So you got Miami, you got Tennessee over under.

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Speaker 5: Draft, Tennessee's Jets, Miami and Buffalo and New England.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Buffalo will win it, Miami will come in second. Okay,

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Speaker 3: there you got who's those third? It's for you to

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Speaker 3: I mean no, come on.

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Speaker 5: No, who is it? New England and the Jets?

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Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm saying. That's those are the last

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Speaker 5: You keep saying Tennessee, Tennessee's Nancy.

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Speaker 3: I keep saying Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: South is the division you did not pick last year

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Speaker 5: with the visions.

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Speaker 2: Nashville is the suburb right outside Boston. All right, everybody relaxed.

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Speaker 3: I meant to say New England. But they're both irrelevant

442
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Speaker 3: and and one is connected to the other because rabel

443
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Speaker 3: is the head coach of both teams. Here's where my

444
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Speaker 3: my head is what some I have no problem putting

445
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Speaker 3: it on pole humps y'all won't do you go, y'all

446
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Speaker 3: won't want y'all would have been some pump pole humping

447
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Speaker 3: mother efforts if y'all took the bet right now, I

448
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Speaker 3: gave y'all.

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Speaker 4: Right, now, okay, we did this. They finished second, Jets.

450
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Speaker 4: I'm betting they finished second.

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Speaker 3: They will finish.

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Speaker 5: Humps on it.

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Speaker 3: Here's what's crazy. They will finish.

454
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Speaker 2: Put five on it.

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Speaker 3: They will finish last, because I think the Jets will

456
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Speaker 3: actually be somewhat better.

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Speaker 5: Put five on it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, five pole hum?

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Speaker 2: You think the Patriots is going to be last in

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Speaker 2: that division?

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Speaker 3: I'll take that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, there we go. Now we're talking. Okay, now we're talking.

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Speaker 3: I think they end up last.

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Speaker 4: So all the all the Pats have to do is

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Speaker 4: finish better than last.

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Speaker 3: No, No, the bet is is that they won't finish second.

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Speaker 3: The bet is that they won't hold hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 3: I'm making the bowl. They'll probably finished last, but they're

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Speaker 3: not gonna second.

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Speaker 5: Let's make sure we get this right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm not betting that they won't finished because then if

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Speaker 5: they finished.

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Speaker 4: First, some in some world where they would beat Buffalo,

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Speaker 4: then that also would fall in the category if you

476
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Speaker 4: wouldn't win.

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Speaker 3: That, that's that well, listen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll go break. We'll figure this out. We're gonna break.

479
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Speaker 4: We'll figure this out on the other side of it.

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Speaker 4: Does that sound good?

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Speaker 3: That's fine? All right, let's do it. Let's get bloody,

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Speaker 3: let's let's get let's get into the scrum. So camp

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Speaker 3: as camp de So what started out is camp I

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Speaker 3: ended up in stix picks. This is a hell of

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Speaker 3: a segment here.

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Speaker 2: It is two pros and a cup of Joe On

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.

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Speaker 2: So we are gonna have the usuals. Later on, we've

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Speaker 2: got another edition of In case you missed it. Albert

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Speaker 2: Brear is gonna stop by instead of Lee's left overse

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Speaker 2: He's not with us. We're gonna have Breeze left Dover's

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Speaker 2: to close up shop. All of it is yours here

493
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Speaker 2: on this three hour extravaganza. But up next, we're gonna

494
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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this bet, all right, because

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Speaker 2: some people here are provable provable, some people are not.

496
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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the bottom as to whether or

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Speaker 2: not LaVar Arrington wants to stand on it. When it

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Speaker 2: comes to the New England Patriots, it's yours here on FSR.

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Speaker 3: Camp By Camp, I camp by camp, Brady's got it,

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Speaker 3: got that camp I, I tell all of them, I

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Speaker 3: get that camp I break it up, break it down

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Speaker 3: camp by CAMPI Brady's CAMPI Brandy's CAMPI Jonas camp d

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Speaker 3: I made love to a strip of.

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Speaker 5: Yes he did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first you have to tip, you did?

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Speaker 5: She said, I'm not quipon Quipan.

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Speaker 3: They already they say, Lorena coming, he comes like a storm.

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Speaker 3: Uh uh uh huh. I bet you Lorena is a

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Speaker 3: big tipper one hundred percent. I think that this.

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Speaker 6: Is not It only takes fourteen singles.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Heck yeah, what is that?

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Speaker 6: And they still come to me?

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Speaker 3: Did they still come to you?

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Speaker 2: Dang, you worked at a restaurant, right, yes, yeah, if

515
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Speaker 2: you've ever worked at a restaurant, you're a big tipper.

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Speaker 2: Just kind of know that world. Then there's something she

517
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Speaker 2: just said. She rolls with fourteen to a strip club.

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Speaker 2: I mean, why go in there if you're only going

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Speaker 2: in there with fourteen singles?

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Speaker 3: What? Please tell me what the plan is with fourteen singles.

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Speaker 6: You find the ones giving them all away, man, and

522
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Speaker 6: you give her all fourteen of your.

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Speaker 3: Ones, like singularly, yeah, make it rain. No, you can't

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Speaker 3: make it rain with fourteen singles?

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Speaker 2: Could the lightings?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: You cannot. What do you mean that it is impossible? Well,

529
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Speaker 3: here's as well throw Here's what Jonas dimes add. Jonas

530
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Speaker 3: goes and picks them up after he throws the downs. Correct,

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Speaker 3: you know he's he's.

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Speaker 5: Breaking them up. You know he's picking up quick. That's

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Speaker 5: that's throwing it out there.

534
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Speaker 2: That's the movie showing this.

535
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Speaker 3: Throws them at his computer while he's holding the mouse

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Speaker 3: with his right hand.

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Speaker 2: You're right, left hand, you're right, yeah, I'm not good there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You just you throw them up in the air and

540
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Speaker 2: then as soon as they go to grab me, just go.

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Speaker 2: He's got a gun and then you just scoop all.

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Speaker 10: Back up and you take the first stripper I fell

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Speaker 10: in love with who got my fourteen dollars?

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Speaker 6: Is also tattooed on my ankle.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, so you know it's very awkward.

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Speaker 5: Would you say the first stripper you felt like?

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Speaker 7: That?

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Speaker 3: May be that may be a story.

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Speaker 6: Curly hair oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, yes, that may not that may not be the

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Speaker 3: story we want to hear.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean her name or picture or what like?

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Speaker 6: Her image? Her likeness in a stick figure stripper? Yes, she.

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Speaker 3: You were so you guys extend Nazi? That wasn't it's inspired?

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Speaker 3: That was y'all had a moment. Huh. Y'all had a moment,

556
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Speaker 3: a lot of moments. Yeah, memorable moments.

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Speaker 6: For fourteen dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, man, cheaper in a movie. I mean, why

559
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Speaker 3: couldn't you just round it off to fifteen? Like, why fourteen?

560
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Speaker 3: What's the significance of fourteen? I'm just I'm confused.

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Speaker 6: That was just what we decided on that night.

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Speaker 3: All right, it's interesting. Okay, that's interesting.

563
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Speaker 2: I had no clue that was going to take that turn.

564
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Speaker 3: But yeah, that one threw me off. I ain't gonna lie.

565
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Speaker 3: I mean, just when I thought it couldn't get any

566
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Speaker 3: more bizarre, Then we go to a tattoo of her

567
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Speaker 3: on the ankle. That's uh wow, Well okay, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let mean, let's see it, right, I mean, have

569
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Speaker 2: you posted that on your ig.

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Speaker 10: For uh uh No, I don't think I have posted

571
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Speaker 10: my sick figure stripper. I'll show you guys in the break.

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Speaker 3: I think you need to show it to us. Now,

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Speaker 3: come on, come show it to us. Now, give a

574
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Speaker 3: little un let's let's get a look at this. Let's

575
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Speaker 3: get it in segment view of this this stripper that

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Speaker 3: you fell in love with.

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Speaker 2: It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here

578
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Trading, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox

579
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Speaker 2: with your hair on this Thursday morning. You can listen

580
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: to us as always on the iHeartRadio app and you

581
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: can find us on almost four hundred affiliates all across

582
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Speaker 2: the country. Is Loreta is now coming into the studio

583
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Speaker 2: right now. She's hiking up get in the middle of

584
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Speaker 2: her her bell bottom in between us yoga pants, and

585
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: she's trying to show us this. Oh that's tiny, all kids, please,

586
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: that looks like the Blair witch stick.

587
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: Please.

588
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: That's like you were playing Hangman and you stop midway through.

589
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Speaker 3: It looks like Lee did the did the tattoo. So

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Speaker 3: I'll say you did not need a tattoo artist for

591
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Speaker 3: that one, Lorena. That was one uh.

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Speaker 2: Online, no, no, no, God, So Brady can see it. Yeah, no,

593
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Speaker 2: I'm not Please yeah.

594
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Speaker 3: If that's the likeness of the stripper you fell in

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Speaker 3: love with, I'm just you know, no, I don't it

596
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: looks straight like a witch hair. Yeah that's not I mean, yeah, no,

597
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Speaker 3: I don't buy that one. But I'm not that looks

598
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Speaker 3: like that looks like the new image that goes on

599
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: women's bathrooms. What it looks like women enter here. You

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00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: got to be more clear with that stuff these days. Yeah,

601
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: did you see it? Q? Did you see it?

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Speaker 5: I've not seen it.

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Speaker 3: You're not seeing it. It's not come three. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're not missing much. You're not You're not missing much.

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Speaker 3: That that that is a very short story. It's yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's just one of the something that's just one of

607
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Speaker 3: the worst things to say that this is the reason

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Speaker 3: why I got it. If you're saying based off of real.

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Speaker 5: Quick, what age did you get that tattoo at?

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Speaker 3: And how old was the tattoo artist? The same age?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 6: Okay, hold on, hold on?

613
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Speaker 5: Is that long?

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Speaker 6: It was at least it was at least eight years ago,

615
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Speaker 6: so good.

616
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Speaker 10: It is at least two years ago, And it was

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Speaker 10: I went to the Fits the Fritz in Anaheim. That's

618
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Speaker 10: the that's the strip club I went to and then

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Speaker 10: I got the tattoo when I went to Vegas a

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Speaker 10: few months later.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you were so inspired you waited months.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I had to design what we wanted, so you

623
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Speaker 10: had to design that.

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Speaker 2: Tell me you design, and.

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Speaker 10: My friend put two different So mine's in one position

626
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Speaker 10: on the pole and his is in a different position

627
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Speaker 10: on the pole.

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Speaker 3: But same same girl is is in a different position.

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Speaker 6: And uh, yes, I have matching sticks figure tattoos.

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Speaker 3: All right? Did you have a relationship with him as well?

631
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Speaker 3: Was this like a group thing?

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Speaker 7: Group?

633
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Speaker 6: Enough?

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Speaker 3: All right, y'all clearly was on on something because that

635
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Speaker 3: that stick figure is not it? I think she's cute,

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Speaker 3: the stick figure. Yes, that's why you put it where

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00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: no one can see that bad boy?

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Speaker 6: Thank yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well there we go. Let's let's talk some.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's what we can see Shadoor Sanders this weekend

641
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL. All right, Shadoor Sanders getting a start

642
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: for the Cleveland Browns. Everybody's excited he'll take on the

643
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, and uh, people are really fired up about this.

644
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: But people are also concerned. Somebody that's concerned about the

645
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: whole situation is one Lewis Riddick of ESPN, who said

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Speaker 2: this about Shudor's opportunity.

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00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 11: I'm afraid he's gonna get on the field in preseason

648
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 11: games without a lot of practice reps, and then they're

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Speaker 11: going to ask him to perform these heroic tasks in

650
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Speaker 11: order to prove that he's worthy of being a starter

651
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 11: when he hasn't had enough rep to really get comfortable.

652
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 11: That's the kind of battle he's dealing with right now.

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00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: I know.

654
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: I've seen it.

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Speaker 11: We've been in these camps. We know how that goes.

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00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 11: You don't get enough reps. They play a whole half

657
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Speaker 11: of a game, and then all of a sudden, coaches

658
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 11: are going, why are you making that mistake? Why aren't

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Speaker 11: you making that check?

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Speaker 3: Damn coach.

661
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Speaker 2: I never was in there in practice.

662
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Speaker 11: You never even talked to me during practice, But now

663
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 11: you expect me to know. That's what they're gonna expect

664
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Speaker 11: of him. But if anyone can get it done, it's

665
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 11: this kid, because he's been trained the right way. But

666
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Speaker 11: I'm telling you, he is ice skating uphill.

667
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 3: So that is Lewis RIDDICKO.

668
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is such a long departure from the

669
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: truth and the reality, and what pains me about a

670
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: take like this? And I heard this and I literally

671
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: thought to myself, it's a lie, Like I want everyone

672
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: out there to know.

673
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: That is one of the biggest lies.

674
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: It's one of the biggest reasons why people get frustrated

675
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: with ESPN's content is because they have people who go

676
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: on TV and they say things that literally.

677
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: Are not true. Let's just start off with this fact.

678
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: Has it ever changed for a rookie that he wasn't

679
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: gonna get enough reps before they go into a preseason

680
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: game in the history, in the history of the NFL draft,

681
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: Like that's always been the case. Like when you're drafted

682
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: as a rookie, you never or very seldom, I would say,

683
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: what point zero one percent of the time, Maybe you're

684
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: like a cam Ward, which even cam Ward, up to

685
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: a point this offseason, who is the number one overall pick,

686
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: was quote unquote battling with Will Levis, So even he

687
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: wasn't getting every single rep to prepare him for the

688
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: first preseason game. But every single player isn't getting every

689
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: single rep to prepare them for every single scenario.

690
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: And by the.

691
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: Way, that's okay. Like when you become a backup or

692
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: if shoud Door Sanders ends up being the backup, do

693
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: you think he's gonna get every single reped in the

694
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 4: course of the season to prepare him for every scenario

695
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: when he goes into a game.

696
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 5: No, that's like.

697
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: Part of the job. So I would look at it

698
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: this way. One, Like the scenario he's playing out is

699
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: such a long departure from the truth for every single rookie,

700
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: not just Shad Door Sanders, which is what I hate

701
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 4: about him actually saying this on TV and anyone giving

702
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 4: it any credibility. The second thing is Picket's been out

703
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: with the hamstring injury, Gabriel's been out with the hamstring injury.

704
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: Flacco has been mixing in with reps. Two, they've all

705
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: kind of shared reps. So in reality of all of

706
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: the quarterback situations, just because there's a lot of bodies

707
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: there and actually doesn't mean at all that shedor Sanders

708
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 4: hasn't got a fair amount of reps and all sorts

709
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: of different types of situations. The next thing that's stepped

710
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 4: two is it's preseason.

711
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: There you go.

712
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: Everyone understands that there's going to be mistakes made. Everyone

713
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: understands there's gonna be a learning curve. There's gonna be

714
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 4: adjustment to the speed of the game, and there's a

715
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: lot that comes along with that. No one comes back

716
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: from a preseason game completely chewing guys out. They're trying

717
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 4: to teach, they're trying to get them to learn. They're

718
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 4: trying to see improvement from game one to game two

719
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: to game three, when they then will have to make

720
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: a decision. It used to be until game four when

721
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 4: a lot of those rookies, young guys got to play

722
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: a half of football. You know, they got to play

723
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: the two minute drive going into halftime. They got to

724
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: do the coming out series in the third quarter, where

725
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: you make adjustments, you script off some starters to go

726
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: with and try to build.

727
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 5: Momentum like that.

728
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Speaker 4: So, like, I sit here and I listen to this,

729
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: and I go I get people's frustration with ESPN's content

730
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: because it feels like they're just throwing stuff out the

731
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 4: wall to say stuff to try to get a reaction.

732
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: In reality, it's so far from the truth.

733
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: And also like talking about well, he's been Yeah, he's

734
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: played a lot of college football. He's been a start

735
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: at Jacksonville State. He's obviously been a start of called

736
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 4: out of for a couple of years. He's got a

737
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: lot of experience. Like he's started more games. Okay, he

738
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: started more games at this point. If you look at

739
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: college in comparison or over the last five years, he

740
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: started more games than Trey Lance. He'd probably go back

741
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: to his high school days. He started more games over

742
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson and when he started one season at Florida

743
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: and a handful of games since then Indianapolis. It's not

744
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: like he doesn't have actual starting experience, granted at the

745
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: college level, but running multiple offenses in multiple places and

746
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: being successful doing so, so like it's almost like he's

747
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: building this thing up to protect him for like whatever

748
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: criticism may come. It's preseason. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I mean,

749
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: I'll put it this way. The first preseason game I

750
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: ever got into. Do you want to know when I

751
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: got to go into the game fourth quarter, I was

752
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: running a two minute drill the entire time, and people

753
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 4: were like, Oh, it's because the hold on everything else,

754
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: you know why I was able to execute. I think

755
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 4: we went down for like two separate touchdown drives, did

756
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: two separate touchdown passes because I'd been there for ots

757
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: in mini camp. I didn't miss Jack Squat and Shador's

758
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: been there for OTAs In mini camp, it's trandy. Camp

759
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: is just a rehearsal of the same stuff you already had.

760
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: So to sit there and say that is an absolute lie,

761
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 4: and he knows it. Like these coaches work with players,

762
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: they try to build up players.

763
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 5: It's entirely different.

764
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: God of the days where you've got these organizations that

765
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 4: bring a guy in or spend a draft pick on them,

766
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: and they just push them the wayside, they don't talk

767
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 4: to them. That is such a long departure from how

768
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: any culture is build on any team anymore.

769
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Speaker 3: Most guys move with camp. During the first game of

770
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: the preseason year, anyway, you're looking at the cheerleaders, You're

771
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: looking into the stands. You're trying to see what you

772
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: can see. Did anybody come to see you so you

773
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: can see them? So y'all can see each other and

774
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: look at each other back and forth. That's what preseason

775
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: is really about, especially the first game, last game. I mean,

776
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: let's be clear, you're not going I was being funny though,

777
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: You're not going into a game game planning in the

778
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: first game of the year. So to even put that

779
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: type of weight on it. I would say this is

780
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: the one time where you would say you want to

781
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: see a rookie play really well because it's going to

782
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: be a vanilla approach to the game. You're going in

783
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: there generally with a limited amount of plays that you're

784
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: going to use, so you don't open up the playbook

785
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: as to what it is you're going to do and

786
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: what you're going to be when you get to the

787
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 3: regular season. Those are the things you work on in practice,

788
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: not in the game. So it's not even a prepared

789
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: depth chart. There's no scouting report, there's no nothing for

790
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: game one in preseason, so there's no reason to have

791
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: put that. I can understand lewis putting the pressure on

792
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: it to say, Okay, this kid is going to be

793
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: measured and judged at a different level than any other

794
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: quarterback that's a rookie in this situation. Maybe he's right,

795
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: maybe he's wrong. It's not a horrible assessment, But what

796
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: I will say is is to automatically say, well, he

797
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: hasn't been in position to be successful. I tend to agree.

798
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: I think that is an overstated way of approaching it,

799
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: because again, for one, you're not game planning him. So

800
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 3: it's not like you're going to roll coverages and disguise

801
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: coverages and do certain things to try to confuse them

802
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: and bring pressures from different spots on the field. You're

803
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: not going to show those aspects of your defense because

804
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: you don't want to put that on film. You do

805
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: not want an organization being able to take that and

806
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: add that to their scouting report. Okay, when they do

807
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: this and they walk him down, they generally are blitzing

808
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: from here. Oh, this is a trigger blitz type of situation.

809
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: I have the back here, We're going to run an RPO.

810
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: I see this that that linebacker is triggered. You know,

811
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: he's triggering. He's rushing based off of what the running

812
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: back is doing. If you're giving offensive coordinators that type

813
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: of film and week one of the preseason, you probably

814
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: won't have a coaching job very long. So to me,

815
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: you come into this game, you have the opportunity to

816
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: dink and dunk, do do vanilla things, maybe even take

817
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: a chance, you know, maybe even take a chance, take

818
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: some risk, because at the end of the day, if

819
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't go right, all it is is a practice.

820
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 3: It's a glorified at practice. Against another team.

821
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: What's the downside? A week ago, the conversation was, he's

822
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: not gonna get enough opportunities. There's too many guys there.

823
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: He's fourth string, he's this, he's that. Now a week later,

824
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: because of injuries, he's getting a chance to start their first.

825
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: Preseason You already saying stuff that that justifies if he

826
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: doesn't play well.

827
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: Like this is all good.

828
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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly.

829
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

830
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Speaker 5: And that's the other thing.

831
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: Is he gonna be more heavily scrutinized than cam Ward

832
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: who's their starter going into the season. There really is

833
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: no other option. Is he going to be more scrutinized

834
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 4: than Tyler Shuck who they drafted in the second round

835
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 4: of New Orleans And it's either between Spencer rather j

836
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: Canner or Tyler Shuck. No, because those fans are looking

837
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: at and being critical of the guys who are already

838
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 4: gonna be thrust it into that week one starting role.

839
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Speaker 4: I mean, Joe Flacco is not gonna play at least

840
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 4: not in this preseason game, maybe not at all this preseason.

841
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: Who knows, because started going in Week one, he's number

842
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: one the depth chart. Now that's not going to change.

843
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: This is really about whether or not Shador will be

844
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 4: second third string depend on how this.

845
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 5: Is going to work, and so it's all upside.

846
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: This entire thing is completely upside for Shador to go

847
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 4: in there and play well. So I just I sit

848
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: there and I listen to stuff like this and I go, yeah,

849
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 4: I get it. I get why people are concerned with

850
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: ESPN acquiring a lot of the NFL media properties an

851
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: ESPN red zone and people saying like they're going to

852
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 4: ruin it because they do. Like they put people on

853
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: who have takes like this that are just factually not true.

854
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting to me, and I'll leave it

855
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: here at this that you know, Stephen Ay made the

856
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: ridiculous comment and assertion that that Shador Sanders was comparable

857
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: in ways to Colin Kaepernick, and I, you know, I

858
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: came out and said what I had to say about it.

859
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: I thought it was a ridiculous assertion and that it

860
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: shouldn't be comparable. Let the young men play ball, don't

861
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: turns into like this racial thing where he doesn't get

862
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 3: an opportunity. But when you have moments like these, when

863
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: the media drives the narrative home that he's been set

864
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: up and he's been put in a position where he

865
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: can't succeed. It does kind of take on that that

866
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: feeling of he's going to be mortared? Is that the

867
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: right way it's saying it, Martyred, that they're going to

868
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 3: put him in a situation where nothing he does will

869
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: be him having to be accountable for it. And so

870
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: when you look at it, while you're you're correct and saying, well,

871
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: you know, the shucks and the war should get all

872
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: of the scrutiny, what's going to happen is is who's

873
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: ever starting for Cleveland is going to get all the

874
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: scrutiny because the scrutiny is connected to what is happening

875
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: with Shador Sanders. Because it actually grades out as a

876
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: more interesting, more polarizing, more click bait, more more headline

877
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: grabbing story as to what is the trajectory of Shador Sanders,

878
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: When are we going to see Shador Sanders? That's going

879
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: to be the over I can guarantee you one of

880
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 3: the overwhelmingly strong storylines that will be in this season

881
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 3: will be what is the progress of Shador Sanders? Where

882
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: is Shador Sanders?

883
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: Now?

884
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 3: All of that pressure now creates the what is Cleveland doing,

885
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: how is that starting quarterback playing? What is their record?

886
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: What's justified to say that there's now the moment in

887
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: time where you have to entertain what you're going to

888
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 3: do with Shador Sanders. I do believe that will be

889
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: one of the top three top five storylines all season long.

890
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: Have you guys heard anything about Jalen Milroe this offseason?

891
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: No?

892
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: Really, not since since.

893
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 5: Rookie Miniquiev. You know, people were kind of hyping them up,

894
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: and now you haven't.

895
00:43:59,560 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: Really.

896
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: Although that being said, have you heard anything about anything

897
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: much out in Seattle?

898
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: It's just but like should like that's all the conversation

899
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: is all surrounding Shador Sanders, And now you got people

900
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: sort of you know, laying the nest down for a

901
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: for a soft landing, just in case he struggles.

902
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: It's just that's cloud chasing too, right, Like it's cloud Okay, let's.

903
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: Let's pull back the curtain. We've worked in TV, we

904
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 4: know how this works. They come up with a list

905
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 4: of topics. I mean, you were in radio right now

906
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: and people will sit there and say, well, what are

907
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: we going to talk about? What's going to grab the attention?

908
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 4: Like I was just at a college football NFL seminar

909
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: for Fox, and one of the things Fox does an incredible.

910
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 5: Job of is they do surveys.

911
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: They take a lot of the data and research behind

912
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: how people are consuming their content, whether that's in broadcast television,

913
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 4: cable television, digitally. And what was most fascinating about it

914
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: is who do you think was the most recognized figure

915
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 4: in college football last year?

916
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders well coach but oh coach?

917
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, by far and away.

918
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 11: Ye.

919
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 4: Now here's the here's the interesting thing of the survey

920
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: they took. It was about sixty four percent of fans

921
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 4: that were college football fans could identify Dan and identify them.

922
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 5: It's called at as head coach.

923
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: So as you start to break these things down, you

924
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 4: realize that, like all right, like you know, people followed them,

925
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: they saw them, They had this kind of idea of

926
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: of you know, who called out it was who Shador

927
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: was because of that really because of his dad. But

928
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: I kind of keep going going back to this, is

929
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 4: they're talking about it because it will grab people's attention

930
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: because you know, he's recognizable, and and you know Shador

931
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: is recognizable because he's Dion's son and and so when

932
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 4: you look at how they're creating something to talk about

933
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: on TV this time of year when there's not much

934
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: to talk about, this stuff gets thrown in there and

935
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: then someone takes a passionate take like that where you're going, dude,

936
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: this is completely unnecessary, and it just it feels like,

937
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: for some reason, you know, people feel like.

938
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 5: They need to do this and they don't.

939
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: Schador has handled himself with the exception of you know, speeding,

940
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: you know, he's handled himself exactly how you'd hoped he

941
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: would and settle the right things and done all the

942
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: right things. And you know, even for people at issues

943
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: with how he conducted himself in Colorado, he it's not

944
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: like he was popped for doing you know, bad stuff

945
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: off the field. It's just because he's got a different

946
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: way of showcasing his brand and showcasing himself, especially when

947
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: he has success. So I don't feel like there's any

948
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: issue there at all. And it's almost like people are

949
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: trying to stir up an issue or create an issue

950
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: out of nothing when we haven't even got to a

951
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 4: game yet.

952
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun with that one.

953
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: Uh, it is two pros and a cup of Joe

954
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas

955
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Knox with you. Coming up next here though, we are

956
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: going to tell you about how well not everything is.

957
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: It's going so smooth for one quarterback and one team's

958
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: decision on that quarterback in the NFL. This training camp,

959
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: that's yours here on FSR. Two pros and a cup

960
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas

961
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: Knox with you here. Come it up in about twenty

962
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Speaker 2: minutes from now, we are going to have something called

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Speaker 2: Breeze Leftovers with Lee out bree Is in. That'll be

964
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Speaker 2: yours here again twenty minutes from now here on FSR.

965
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: Right now, though, we turn it over to our guy,

966
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Speaker 2: Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the

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968
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Speaker 2: my next at Albert Breer AB. Where do your travels

969
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: through training camp take you today?

970
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean I'm in some town in Missouri. I'm going

971
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: to Chiefs, which I'm almost to Saint Joseph. Saint Joseph

972
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: would is like an hour north of Kansas City.

973
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hot and steamy buddy hot yeah, get ready.

974
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brady. You know the pit there that the practice

975
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: they're in and how it traps humidity and uh yeah,

976
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a workout shirt to practice today. I'll put

977
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: it that way.

978
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: Well, I'm more concerned about your swamp ass, so you

979
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: better you better wear a.

980
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 5: Pair of underwear.

981
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna be that's gonna be a situation too. I

982
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: might have changeing my way back here.

983
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 5: Good for you. You know, it's funny.

984
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 4: They've got incredible facilities for what are they like a

985
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: D three program or D two?

986
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, They've got like a nice field house

987
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: and the practice they're not all of it. It's really nice.

988
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: It's just in the middle of nowhere.

989
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: Well yeah, but they've got an indoor facility. Like how

990
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: many D three programs whatever it is, have an indoor facility.

991
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: There right right, And I think it's a full feel.

992
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: I can't. I one year I came here and it

993
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: was and it was raining out or something, and they

994
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: were they were inside, and I think it's actually like

995
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: a full field facility to which, yeah, you're right, you

996
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: won't see too many dudes and three schools that I

997
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: actually I actually think, but you know, I actually think

998
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: they're n ai A. Is that right for their division career? Naia.

999
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 5: I'll look into that.

1000
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 4: I am curious though, as you go there, like what

1001
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: questions are there really surrounding the Chiefs. It feels like

1002
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: outside of them losing in the Super Bowl, they weren't

1003
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: able to repeat, they're still, in my mind like the

1004
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 4: team to beat in the AFC. It's just like maybe

1005
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: they probably only rebuilding the stronger from this.

1006
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Brady. I mean, I think a lot

1007
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people become the prisoners of the last

1008
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: thing they saw, and I think in this case, like

1009
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people have drilled down on

1010
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs looked like in the super Bowl. It's

1011
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: a really good Eagles team and that came obviously was

1012
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: never in doubt. And you know, I think people are wondering,

1013
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: is that the last night of the Chiefs dynasty? And

1014
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I think that's a little more ridiculous just based on

1015
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: the what they are with with with Dandy Reid and

1016
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes the front of his career. Not only that,

1017
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: like how they got to the Super Bowl last year,

1018
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: they did it with a tackle situation that was a

1019
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: complete mess that Isaiah Pacheco without Rashie Rice, with Hollywood

1020
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: Brown having played what I think two games three games

1021
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and then into the playoffs.

1022
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: That was a really hollowed out version of what the

1023
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs had been the last few years. And they still

1024
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: got into the Super Bowl. And so, you know, when

1025
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: I talk to these guys, and obviously I'll talk to

1026
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: them more today, but you know, when I talk to

1027
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: these guys over the last two months, you know, the

1028
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: feeling I've gotten is that they feel like they're going

1029
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: to be better than they were a year ago. And

1030
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: some of the vision that they had for the offense

1031
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: last year, where you know, the idea was you're going

1032
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: to have Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy on the outside

1033
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: and those two clearing out space for Rashie Rice and

1034
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey operate underneath to check go on the running

1035
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: em All that stuff can come to life now if

1036
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: they can stay healthy, you know. So the motivated team,

1037
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: I know that, and like I think, you know, they

1038
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: feel like, at least internally, they should be better than

1039
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: they were at the end of last year.

1040
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 2: Abe, do you have any sort of a sense or

1041
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: an update on where things stand between the Cowboys and

1042
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons. Have they still not talked to his agent?

1043
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: Has there still been nothing more than a handshake? As

1044
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones pointed out earlier this.

1045
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: Week, Well, you know, a handshake is a very important

1046
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: there's a bomb there, you know what I mean? Very yeah.

1047
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean the deal is a deal, right, so when

1048
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: you shake on it, when you shake on it, you

1049
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: have a deal. No, I think that right now, I

1050
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: would say this probably waits until they get back to

1051
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: Dallas from California, just based in the past history here

1052
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: at the pace of negotiations, I think it's going to

1053
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: be on the Cowboys to pick up the phone and

1054
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: make that that that call to try and get something

1055
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: sparked where they can get some more momentum towards the

1056
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: deal getting done. And this is the first one. Guys

1057
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: like I you know, you don't want to believe that

1058
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: these billion dollar businesses would do things like I don't know,

1059
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, endure a contracts, you know, dispute because it

1060
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: gets them in the a block on first take. But

1061
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: it keeps happening over and over and over again where

1062
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: it makes you believe that that's the case. And you know,

1063
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: when I dug into it over the last week, the

1064
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: pace of negotiations is not different than the pace of

1065
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: negotiations was with Zach Martin two years ago, or with

1066
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and Dak Prescott last year. So, you know,

1067
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: I think if you look at past history, you look

1068
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: at the benefit I guess that they get from the

1069
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: attention being foisted upon them, where you know, they're one

1070
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: of the big stories during training camp, and then you

1071
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: look at the fact that during the kickoff game, which

1072
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: you know moves the timeline up a little bit. I think,

1073
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, you get through this week, you get through

1074
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: next week. The team picks up and goes from you know,

1075
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: the training camp in California back home to Texas, and

1076
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: and then maybe talks gets sparked because I think we

1077
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: all know where this deal is going to be done, right,

1078
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: It's going to be in the forties. It's probably gonna

1079
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: be well in the forties. I think it could be

1080
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: as far up as forty five million per year. The

1081
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: market's the market now, you know, And so I think,

1082
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: really what's left is when the Cowboys pick up the

1083
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: phone and call and try to get the talks going again,

1084
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then and then how how

1085
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: difficult it is for everybody to put their personal feelings aside.

1086
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: What about Terry and Terry McLaurin uh in Washington.

1087
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, LeVar, My my sense is

1088
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: that's another one where it probably gets done before, right

1089
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: before the season. That one is a little different, Like

1090
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any like personal animists there, And

1091
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: I think do I think a guts to carry a

1092
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: little bit to have to go through this based on

1093
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: everything he's given to the team. Yeah, but I still

1094
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: think like the ideal scenario for everyone involved is for

1095
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Terry to be in that uniform and and look like

1096
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: Terry has been through a lot. It went through a

1097
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: lot to help that franchise get where it is. You know,

1098
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot of sweat equity that he has tied

1099
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: up and in the in in that franchise, turning things

1100
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: around and going to the Dance Snighter era to the

1101
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: Josh Harris era, and you know, and and and and

1102
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: and and and getting from Jay Gruden era to the

1103
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: to the Ron Rivera now to to to what dan

1104
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: Quinn's built. So I think Terry is motivated to be there.

1105
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: I don't think the commanders. I don't think there's any question

1106
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: that commanders want him in a Washington uniform. And I

1107
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: think this really comes down to where the market is

1108
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: and the principles and data that the the that that

1109
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: the new commander's regime has, and uh, I don't know

1110
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: where the middle ground is, but I have to think

1111
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: that they're going to find a way to get something

1112
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: done in time.

1113
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 3: Abe.

1114
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: Biggest surprise for you thus far through your training camp travels.

1115
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: As what.

1116
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: It's a good question. Uh, you know, I think one

1117
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: of the things that I I like you can see

1118
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: that I thought was sort of interesting is there's a

1119
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: couple of teams where I think you had a good

1120
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: young base of players, and it's can you elevate from

1121
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: good to great? And that's not just for a team standpoint,

1122
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: but with a lot of the individual young players and

1123
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: those two teams that be Seattle and Green Bay, I'm

1124
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: seeing the way Pete Carroll's moving around at seventy three

1125
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: years old is obviously something something to behold, you know.

1126
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: I would say, like to me, it was like looking

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00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: at like the operation with the Chargers was in now,

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00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: I would say there are a couple of teams where

1129
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: you look at them and you say, man, you can

1130
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: feel the confidence and they think they're going to be

1131
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: really good. Those two teams, like, for me, that really

1132
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: stuck out. It's having that confidence where it's like, could

1133
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: they make a real run in a Super Bowl? Would

1134
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: be the the Broncos and the Rams. Like being with

1135
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: the Chargers was really interesting in that, like it kind

1136
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: of jumped out at me how big that team has gotten.

1137
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: And you look at the right side of the line

1138
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: and it's it's Joe All and it's it's it's it's

1139
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Mackai Beckton. And then you know on the defensive side,

1140
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: the interior guys are much bigger than they were a

1141
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago under Brandon Staley. And you see

1142
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: the running back of mari and Hampton and it's like

1143
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: you could really envision him being like a Frank Gore

1144
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: type of presidence, the type of president Scorer was for

1145
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: for Jim Harbaugh in San Francisco, And so it just

1146
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: really jumped out at me looking at the Chargers is

1147
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: just a physical makeup of the team and you know

1148
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: I I you know, just talking to people there, they

1149
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: feel like they're better at every position than they were

1150
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: a year ago. So I'm really interested to see what

1151
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: happens in the AFC West because you have the Chiefs

1152
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: and then you know, you've got the Chargers and the Broncos,

1153
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: who I think really feel like they're in a position

1154
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: to make a run at it. And I think the

1155
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: Raiders are going to be fisty under Pete Carroll. Like

1156
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I think by the by the by, by the end

1157
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: of the year, they're they're the proverbial Now, I don't

1158
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: think they win more than six or seven games, but

1159
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: I think by the end of the year they're sort

1160
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: of the proverbial team no one wants to play.

1161
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that you mentioned the Rams and

1162
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 4: just the potential for what they could be this year.

1163
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford's dealing with back issues. How serious is this

1164
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 4: in the minds of the Rams right now? Because it

1165
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, at his age back issues, some of the

1166
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: symptoms he's dealing with, lack of participation in much feels

1167
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: like this could be an interesting storyline to watch to

1168
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: see if the Rams can actually get Matthew Stafford for

1169
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 4: all seventeen games.

1170
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put it this way. If this is a

1171
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: game we think he'd be practicing and if there was

1172
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: a game on Sunday, he'd certainly be playing. You know,

1173
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: I think this is sort of a realization that they've

1174
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: come to that there's only so many more bullets in

1175
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: the gun, and you don't want to be firing those

1176
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: bullets in August. And so, you know, they've got the

1177
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: luxury of having Jimmy Garoppolo on the team, which I

1178
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: think gives them, you know, the opportunity to have quality

1179
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: practice work right, Like they don't need to worry about

1180
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: the pace of practice with Jimmy out there or you know,

1181
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback knowledge of the office. Everything can run smoothly.

1182
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: Everybody can get good working with Jimmy Garoppolo in there

1183
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. And they saved those bullets in the gun.

1184
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what the number would be, probably be

1185
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: like eighty five ninety percent. I don't think they're going

1186
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: to put him out there until they feel like he's

1187
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And Matthews deal with a bunch of

1188
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: these things over the last couple of years. He had elbow,

1189
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: he had a risk and these are all like the

1190
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: types of injury with an older quarterback you got to

1191
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: be really careful with right and the back is in

1192
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: that category two. So do I think it's of no concern?

1193
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Like, of course it is. He's thirty seven

1194
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: years old, he's got a back problem. Do I think

1195
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: the Rams are thinking like this is going to materially

1196
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: affect our season. I don't think that's what this is

1197
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: at this point. I think this is more of a

1198
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: maintenance thing and trying to make sure that not only

1199
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: he's ready to go week one, but he's in a

1200
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: position to sustain his level of play in the December

1201
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: and January.

1202
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Speaker 3: Abe. My last question would be the New England Patriots.

1203
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: We discussed them at length earlier in the show. What

1204
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: do you see from your perspective the I guess the

1205
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: projection of what the will end up finishing at in

1206
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 3: in the AFC South South East, East East East East

1207
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: and so resistant against these these two, what do you

1208
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 3: think they have finished? They have a chance to finish

1209
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: second or first then in their conference their division?

1210
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: Uh first, No, I think Buffalo's gonna win the division again.

1211
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: And you know I was with the Bill. Everything looks

1212
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: so easy for Josh Allen. Now it's scary, like I

1213
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, like you think, look at the guy that

1214
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: physical ability and now like how smooth everything looks. Josh

1215
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: in a really good spot. So I think Buffalo was

1216
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: a division but but yeah, I mean, I I think

1217
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: Miami takes a step back. I think the Jets are

1218
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: going to be competitive. You know where that goes. I'm

1219
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: not positive in Aaron Glenn's first year, but I think

1220
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots in a position where they've gotten themselves the

1221
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: level ground at a lot of different positions. There were

1222
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,479
Speaker 1: positions that I think were like real weaknesses, like real

1223
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: holes for them, where at least they're at a confident

1224
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: level now. And you know, whether that means seven wins

1225
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: or ten wins, I think comes down to how the

1226
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: young quarterback plays. But it's a very professional, experienced coaching

1227
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: staff that Mike Rabel's put together. I think there's going

1228
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: to be an identity to the team, you know, and

1229
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to be competitive on a

1230
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: weekend weekend basis. And you know, I think if you

1231
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: look at a lot of things they've done, it mirrors

1232
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: what what Washington did last year when the Commander's new

1233
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: brass came in. Dan Quinn got all these guys, as

1234
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: someone on the coaching staff had experienced with whether it

1235
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: was Dante Fowler and Dorance Armstrong and Bobby Wagner and

1236
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: played for him, Austin that Coda played for Anthony Lynn.

1237
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: I mean was across the board. He saw every guy

1238
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: they brought in had some sort of background with the

1239
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff Patriots is the same thing. You know they

1240
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: bring in. Steph Diggs was with Todd Downing, Morgan Moses

1241
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: was with Todd Downing, Robert Spoyne was with Josh McDaniels,

1242
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: Harold Landry was with Rabel Carlton day Savis was what

1243
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: Terrell Williams and Detroit like all those guys had that background.

1244
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: And so like, I think they've kind of gotten themselves

1245
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: again up to that level ground and now whether or

1246
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: not they can elevate from all, right, like this team's

1247
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: a tough team to play and maybe they're like a

1248
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: seven win team versus like actually competing for a playoff

1249
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: spot probably comes down to the development of the young

1250
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: quarterback under McDaniels.

1251
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 4: So so, how do you see the division if you

1252
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 4: had to peg it right now, how do you see

1253
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 4: it playing out?

1254
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 5: Like so obviously Buffalo one, then.

1255
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: What I think the Patriots and Jets are relatively even,

1256
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: Like I think the Patriots have a higher ceiling and quarterback.

1257
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: I think the Jets may have more talent across the board.

1258
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: I think we forget how good the I think the

1259
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: Patriots and Jets are going to be neck and neck

1260
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: because I just go through it, and the quarterback spot

1261
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of held them hostage the last couple of years

1262
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: and where they were last year with all ownership and

1263
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 1: everything else. That wasn't Aaron's fault, like that was more

1264
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: like just overall organizational chaos. But you look at it, Brady,

1265
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like so many levels of the team. You've got,

1266
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, blue chip or wourline blue chip players like

1267
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson at receiver, now Olufashanu on the offensive line.

1268
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: You know, Garrett breist Hall at running back, Quentin Williams,

1269
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: you know Jamaine Johnson's got a high ceiling at defensive end,

1270
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: Quincy Willie.

1271
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 5: He had a lot of those guys last year though,

1272
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 5: and it didn't work out.

1273
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: You know they did, but they did, But it was

1274
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: so fricking chaotic, you know what I mean, Like it

1275
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: was just.

1276
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but what's changed. You have a new head

1277
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 5: coach and new staff.

1278
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: Well, well, here's where it is is and.

1279
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 4: Also, can we get a pick from you? We're going

1280
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 4: to ride the fence the whole time? He is right,

1281
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 4: get I mean, how do you feel? I feel like

1282
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: you're I feel like you're wearing You're already gonna have

1283
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 4: swamp ass from going to Saint Joe's.

1284
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 5: Now you're riding the fence.

1285
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 4: You can't give us a damn pick between the Jets

1286
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 4: and the Patriots for the number two spot.

1287
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: Dang hey, trios two Jets, Patriots two, two Jets three.

1288
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: But I do think the Patriots are going to be

1289
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: and the Jets are really competitive. I think the Jets,

1290
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: I think those two will be neck and back. And

1291
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: I do think again they've got like a really good

1292
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: base count. The difference this year is in the first

1293
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: year of a new coach what he generally takes a

1294
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: step back. He doesn't start fiddling with everything until the

1295
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: coaches two or three years in. That's generally been a

1296
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: m O.

1297
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: But we're all in agreement that not all of them.

1298
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: Not looking great for Miami this year, I would say,

1299
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: I think.

1300
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: I think Miami. I think Miami is an undercover rebuilding team.

1301
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: I think they finished second it's a good.

1302
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: Way to put it. To undercover rebuild.

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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots finished the last or.

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Speaker 1: Or second by the way. I think Cleveland's I think

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's undercover rebuild too. I think there are a few

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Speaker 1: of those this year.

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Speaker 5: Are they undercover? Are the Saints undercover? I think there's

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Speaker 5: some they're not undert there.

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Speaker 1: Out there.

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Speaker 5: They're like the space needle in Seattle.

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Speaker 4: You got to go see it because.

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Speaker 1: The fans are great because they because the quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: is what it is. And now you have like like

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Speaker 1: two guys that have like legitimate, like real ties to

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Speaker 1: the organization that could be in the draft next year.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't have I don't know there's any chance

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Speaker 1: of ours declare, but obviously he's got the ties to

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Speaker 1: the organization. And then the offensive coordinator's son is probably

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Speaker 1: could have a chance to be a first round pick

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Speaker 1: next year too. So the Saints have sort of there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things lining up there. I'll just put

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Speaker 1: it that way.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, ab We appreciate it. Enjoy your travels, safe travels,

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Speaker 2: and stay out of the heat. Watch out that swamp ass.

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Speaker 1: I'll be on the lookout for it for sure.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna find you, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: Her career, U senior at a reporter, lead content strategist

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