WEBVTT - Darby Allin Thought It Was The End 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:15.000 Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Albarez 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.279 here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.280 Monday through Friday, now Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:25.400 sixth Eastern Saturday mornings. Had in Pacific one Eastern with 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:30.440 Old Gym Valley a ha dne over here. I've I've 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.440 inadvertently become a smoker. We had the worst air quality 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.559 on the earth on the Earth yesterday and it is 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.040 no better today. I just can't breathe. So I'm gonna 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.960 do my best here on the program. Today. We're gonna 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.559 get rain here in Seattle. I know some of you think, well, 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.560 of course you're gonna get rainy in Seattle, but in fact, 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.560 in fact, I don't think Seattle has had rain since 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:02.120 uh late June early each lie there was there was 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.440 one weekend where it rained and it was all out 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.040 weekend and I was gone. So I live in Seattle. 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:12.000 I have not seen rain in about three months now, 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.559 and the rain will hopefully come today and wash away 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.440 all of this smoke, so we will no longer be 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:25.880 the city with the worst air quality on the planet. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.200 I hear we rival Venus right now, do you know that? Anyway, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.119 we got a lot of news to get into here today. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.440 We talked about a double n n x C yesterday 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.960 because in fact the show has aired on Tuesday this week, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.080 and so today we'll talk about the fallout. Yes, we 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:47.520 have the ratings. Everybody's favorite discussion and that'll be that'll 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.880 be fun. And we've also got notes on Darby Allen 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.600 talked about his match with Jeff Hardy, where Darby Ellen 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.800 said that that he thought that could have been the 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.280 end for him. And that's Darby Allen saying that, So 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:02.880 we'll tell you what he had to say about that. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.680 We've also got miss He is dealing with an injury, 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:12.720 a burst, a burst bursa sack, yet he's still wrestling, 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:14.960 So it's gonna be interesting. We'll tell you about that 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:19.120 and uh and more and a day of feedback from 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.480 you the listeners. Maybe I'll even open up the phone 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.079 lines back in the momp with more abs your live 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:36.000 come by day com cough byday seeing. And I think 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.440 it's me that can's something that I won't try, but 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:49.320 imagine all right back here in the show, right, Albert 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:55.079 is here wrestling Observer Live. Mike's here, give it. It's 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.040 impossible to believe. Why are you shocked about that? I'm 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.000 here every day except half the last week. At the 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:07.200 beginning of this week another yes, well I'm gone tomorrow. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.200 Oh so good luck. Now, I know you were setting 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.000 me up like that. I almost was gone today, but 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.080 I decided I would do my job. Where where are 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.160 you going? Well, I wasn't going anywhere, but my my 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.440 little one goes to outdoor preschool. And guess well, we 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.960 can't do outdoor pre school today because the air quality 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:30.760 is the worst on earth. So uh yeah, it didn't 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.320 make some changes. But anyway, let's talk about the news 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:41.120 here on this day of armageddon. With the air quality sixty, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.240 should we see where it is today? Does anyone care 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.960 except me? I mean I care a lot because I'm 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.000 I'm hacking to death here. Well, you know, in a 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.920 couple of days, I guess I'll care because of those 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.040 jet streams that come over. But it's really bad out there. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.600 I guess the air quality right now is two oh four. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.760 It should be under fifty. So two or four? Is 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:07.320 uh Los Angeles way worse, way, way worse in Los Angeles. Actually, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.000 I wonder what, Yeah, what is l A on a 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.720 normal day. I don't know, but I'm trying to see. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.840 There was another there was another one I had here 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.320 that world wide maybe I guess a worldwide air quality, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:25.839 which is the word. Yeah, let's see. Well, the good 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:30.840 news is we're now we're now below India. Delhi, India 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.159 is at two sixty three. We're two, so we're number two. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:41.160 That's that's nice. Beijing is it one seventy? There? It 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.960 couldn't be more clear there? Oh no, I'm sorry. Now 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.040 we're at this moment we're actually number one to forty. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.479 So you keep complaining about this, a volcano is going 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.039 to go off to and really just iced the cake 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:57.520 for you. Yeah, Seattle in Portland are number one and 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:02.640 two right now, and then Beijing number three, Wu Hand 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:09.239 number five, the infamous Wu Hand province. Yeah, it's pretty horrible. Here, okay, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:16.320 here's the here's the ratings. You know what I had, Yes, already, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.440 a vintage Twitter. I got to put up the head 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.240 to head and everybody got to go all crazy. But 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.080 here it is Dynamite on Tuesday this week did seven 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.719 fifty two thousand viewers, down twenty three point five percent 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.839 from last Wednesday, lowest audiences October last year, when it 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.240 aired on a Saturday eighteen to forty nine eight on 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.599 cable with a point to six. Then we've got an 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.560 x T six seventy six thousand viewers, down eight point 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.839 three percent from last week twelve on the charts with 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:56.080 a point one eight rating, which is up from last 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.480 week actually year over year. We got all that kind 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.320 of stuff right here. So, uh, the gist of it 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.839 is in the in the viewership a W one seven 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.880 fifty two to six seventy six and in the eighteen 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.440 and forty nine Dynamite one with a with a point 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.760 to six to uh to a point one eight. You know, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.119 I don't I don't like to, uh, you know, twist 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.240 a knife or anything like that, but I gotta I 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.520 got a buddy in w W. He's always arrassing me 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.280 and you as well. And uh, you know, the other 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.159 day I was talking about how um you know we're 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.640 doing We're doing the Observer radio show on Tuesday instead 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.560 of Wednesday this week because the shows are head to 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:40.719 hit on Tuesday, and he says, he goes, oh, yeah, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.960 why why aren't you doing it Wednesday? Are you afraid 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.240 for when the ratings come in? And I was like, well, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.320 first off, I don't care either way, number one, number two, 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:54.800 it wasn't even my call. So anyway, you know, he 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.000 he thought that we were avoiding doing the show on 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:01.440 Wednesday because we have talked about the ratings. Well, what 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.239 does that indicate? That indicates to me that he thought 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.440 that an XT was gonna win. Yeah, that's what I 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.240 would pickure. So it didn't win, and then you know 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.000 what he says, because well, we weren't trying to win. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.600 The only winners were the fans, Brian, I'll rest the 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.960 only winners with the fans. They were just trying to 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:27.400 provide a bounty. A bounty. Look at one point four 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.040 to eight million people, is that? What is one point 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.640 four to eight million people joined in on that bounty 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.800 or at least filled in their Nielsen books with that, 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.920 as opposed to the sports that they were watching. Because 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.320 for both n x T and a W they were 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.960 both down. Obviously I a W want a different night, 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.280 But the bottom line is the two hockey games. Again, 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.960 depending on what city you're in that actually matters. The 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.040 NBA Games opening Day, for heaven's sakes, with eighteen to 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.480 thirty four, eighteen to forty nine of me, come on, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.640 get out of here. So I got more major in 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.800 Major League Baseball. So I mean, what can you do? 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.679 Both of these shows? What are you doing? And I 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.280 I couldn't figure out why. First first, all I hear 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.000 is that I'm the only person that loves It's my 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.760 favorite show. I love n x T. I'm the number 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.960 one flag bearer for n x T. You are you 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.560 are the Then they go head to head. Andyone's like, oh, 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.520 he's gonna have an agenda? Now, well, which is it? 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.040 Is it my favorite show that I'm the flag bear? Four? 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.280 Do I have an agenda for a w Cut to 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.600 the chase? Here, let's cut to the chase. Both of 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.880 these shows did great. I know some of you don't 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.160 want to believe it, but that's that's true. Both of 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:52.040 these shows did great dynamite. Yeah, obviously they were well 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.320 below there there one million, nine thousand or whatever, but like, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.400 what were you expecting? They were moved to a different night. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.800 They were going headdad with n XT and a whole 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:07.000 bunch of sports, and if you exclude sports programming, they 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.479 were the number one show on cable. If you exclude 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.640 sports program For n x T, they were like number four. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:20.200 So both of these shows, given the circumstances, they both 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.080 did great. But everyone has to freak out, well, this 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.360 and that and whatever. I can't just say they did 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.960 really good. You'll have to see. No, they actually did great. 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.079 Do you do you know? Okay? What what was Dynamite 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:39.200 down from last week? Uh? They were down? Okay, do 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.560 you guys want to go and look at how far 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.360 SmackDown was down when they had to move to FS 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:50.560 one on a different night. They were down like sixty dude, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:55.160 moving to a different night hurts everybody. It hurts w 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.960 W E and heard say w it would hurt n 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.240 x T, it would hurt. It would hurts everybody. And 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.880 they actually held up remarkably well and charted very well 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.640 and quite frankly n XT with competition with a w competition, bro, 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.520 they did better than they do with no competition. So yeah, 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:20.480 everybody did great on Tuesday night. That's the story. My 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.320 favorite show smashed them. What do you think some of 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.440 these people would have done back in the day when 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.360 it came to raw being moved for the dog show 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.520 in the U. S Open and whatnot. I think they 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.199 would have complained about ratings there too. There was a 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.600 lot of complaining in the mid nineties, guys. Don't. Don't 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.040 get us wrong. The difference was there was no Twitter. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.880 It was all confined to forums and chat rooms and whatnot. 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.520 People make fun of the super followers thing, but man, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.640 my super follower Twitter is the greatest Twitter ever. It's like, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.040 I post some stuff, everybody's real nice about it. The 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:56.840 comments are all polite, and you know, everybody enjoys doing whatever. Man. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:04.400 That that that commoner's Twitter. Oh peasant Twitter. It is 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.600 peasant past system. Now with the twitters with you, I 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.720 really don't think four ninety nine a month is like 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.360 a cast system here. You know what, dude, I went 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.200 to the grocery store the other day. I got a 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.000 block of cheese. You know what cheese cost me? At 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.240 the story You're getting a block of cheese, just like 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.160 a little just like a little thing of cheese. Nine dollars. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.600 And then then I wanted to get a one little 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.120 package of of tortillas because Passy has been in a 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:35.760 case of eas lately. Seven dollars. Where are you sewing safely? 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.040 My god, I'm not even going to expensive whole foods 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:45.000 or whatever. CALLI yeah, I know what I know. It's inflation, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.040 you idiot. I'm pointing out I didn't inflate the price 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.880 of my super followers. My super followers for a month 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.400 is less than a pack of tortillas. So I don't 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.640 want to hear about it. Stop getting her friends imported 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:02.160 cheeses to friend imported cheese. It was in the cheese section. Oh, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.280 let me grab a thing of cheese. It's allay, what 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:11.439 kuda or whatever? I don't even know what that is? Delicious, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:17.160 actually nice mild cheese. No, DJ was safe way cheese. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.199 What are your other options out there? You got like, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.240 I don't know if I spent I spent ten minutes 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.760 talk about nothing. I love it. Now we're gonna do 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:38.160 more after the break. Observer Live Off taking that behind 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:43.120 my back back in the show. Bran Over is here. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:47.800 Wrestling Observer Live miximber viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.800 Flabbergasted what you know? Last night on the Brianant Video Show, 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.880 we had Brian is ms. Everyone tried to to to 0:12:54.360 --> 0:13:00.080 uh you know, verbally express the essence of me. A 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.880 couple of people did a good job. Oh yeah, by 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:08.440 doing an imitation or well no, I mean my favorite 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:15.080 the winner was all chopped, no pork. But anyway to 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:20.120 think that, you blokes on this chat, don't think I 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.800 used the gimmick phone number at safe Way and get 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.559 a discount. I mean, come on, who do you think 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.000 I am? I think I go to Costco. You use 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.040 the gimmick phone number. Hey, you type in your phone 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:36.440 number discount. Oh you don't know about this? Uh, explains 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.880 with the gimmick phone number. Now I'm gonna start using 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.080 it here. See if it works. See if somebody signed 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.719 up with your information around one of these places by 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.600 me Carl Anderson. Yeah, I mean this is a shocking story. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:55.920 I'm not even sure that I can Carl. Carl Anderson 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.240 will not be defending his never open weight champion ship 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.040 on November five. Get Out New Japan had previously announced 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.800 Anderson would face Hikolao on the Battle Autumn Tour stop 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.400 on Raw this week. However, it was revealed the Good 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.320 Brothers will team with a j to take on Judgment 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.920 Day at Crown Jewel on the same date, and a 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.880 video posted to a social media on Wednesday, Anderson says 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.000 New Japan didn't run the November five date by his 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.960 booking agent and tag partner, Doc Gallows. First, I hope 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.760 that's a shoot, and the Doc Gallos is his business 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.960 agents as sex Ferguson there please the Good Brothers confirmed 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:33.040 they will not be doing the New Japan show. Gallows 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.600 begins in the video New Japan Pro Wrestling. A few questions. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.280 Are we the o G Bullet Club? Yes? Are we 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.360 the world famous Good Brothers? Yes? Are we rapping out 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.080 Sea on Monday Night Raw? Yes? And do all bookings 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.920 still go through the Big l G when it comes 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.360 to Bright Lights when it comes to the Good Brothers, Yes, 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:54.400 they do. So here's here's the here's the two things here. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:02.640 You know. When when he first signed w W, E 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:07.280 is a never open weight champion, the claim was that 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:12.720 he would drop the title. Okay, and uh, I don't. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.680 I don't like to be that guy. You know what, 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.880 I am the guy. It's the essence of Brian is m. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.120 I said, do this thing, guy, this guy is gonna 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.640 drop the title and everyone said yeah he is, No, 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.520 he actually is. And Dave on the show even started 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.160 listing off. You know, these people signed and then they 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.400 ended up they dropped their titles before. But what he 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:37.000 didn't know was before somebody make a list for me. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:43.200 How many people have signed with w w E okay 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:48.440 and not dropped the title and then debuted okay, but 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:58.000 they debuted and then dropped the title. How many anybody? 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:04.960 I can think of? Zero row? So what a shocker. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:11.560 He debuts on raw and now he is not. Now granted, 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:18.800 there's two things here. He was double booked, which means 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.640 that he has a booked for another date after the 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.240 first date by w w E. So he is unable 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.760 to to make that show. But I mean, I guess 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:33.560 it's possible that he could later go to New Japan 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:42.680 and drop that title. Oh yeah, yeah, I guess he 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.600 could do it beforehand. You know, at the the New 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.880 York shows that are coming up. That would be a 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.200 great time to do it. There's still matches to be 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.440 announced for those shows. If you're going to do it, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.040 there will be a good time to do it. Now 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.520 here's the other thing, the whole it goes one more now, 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.960 correct if I'm wrong, Mike, and as a resident New 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.119 Japan expert here on this program, I am not wrong. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.439 The rule in New Japan is if you get announced 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.800 for a show and you do not make that date, 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.719 you are stripped of your title. And in fact, in fact, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.159 in fact, whether whether it was cleared with him or 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.440 not is irrelevant because the same exact thing happened with 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:31.520 Juice Robinson, where Juice Robinson had an injury, he wasn't 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.960 ready to return, they booked him for a show anyway, 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.040 he wasn't ready to return and could not make the date, 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.159 and they stripped him right. So, whether he was whether 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.560 they cleared this with him or not, if he was 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.640 announced for this show and he's not gonna be there 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.720 for whatever reason, even if they adn't cleared with him first, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:57.040 New Japan historically should strip him of that title, which 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.159 means he would not be dropping that title in New Japan. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.720 That's most likely the case. I think the thoughts of 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.520 ever seeing him in New Japan a can are probably gone. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:14.480 After that Instagram post yesterday, Rocky Romero posted right afterwards. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.080 I don't believe I could say all of it on 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.800 the air, but requested that the belt be returned. It's 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.240 possible that and I tried to reach out to people 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:28.000 inside New Japan, didn't expect a response, didn't get a response, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.440 So we'll see if I get one before the show 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:35.399 goes off the air. But I don't begrudge them for 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:39.600 doing what they're doing, even though I don't go back 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:45.080 one bit. I'm just pointing out that I'm not saying 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.600 that you are, and I'm just saying personally, I don't 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.159 begrudge them for going go get your money. Adam and 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.320 I talked about this on The Big Audio Nightmare, which 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.160 is up free for subscribers right now wherever you get 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.439 your favorite podcasts, and we talked about it more in depth. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.440 But I don't blame them, but it's just you shouldn't 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.879 have done the business that you were doing, and you 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.440 should have just said we're signing with w w E 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.679 New Japan right then and there should have pulled the 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.919 belt off of them, because yes, there was a chance 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.439 that cool Uncle Paul would be the coolest uncle in 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.960 the whole wide world and allowed this to go on. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.120 But where have they ever had a history, as Brian mentioned, 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:29.960 of ever doing this. So it's it's a frustrating scenario 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.480 for New Japan, but it's also one that they put 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.760 themselves in by having Carl Anderson, who was not signed 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.240 to a rock solid piece of paper for them to 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.960 go over Hiroshitanahashi win that title. Now I did. I 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.720 did think that there was an outside chance it could happen, 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:51.479 because Hiko Leo is one of Hakku's sons, and you 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.440 know with Tama Tong, and I actually thought that there 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:59.119 could be a small possibility. But obviously that's not the case. 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.040 By the way, the name was brought up here on 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:07.600 the chat, Alberto Alberto del Rio, al Patron and uh, 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.240 in fact, it's exact same thing. He was the Triple 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.600 A Mega Champion, he re signed with w w E. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.560 He was allegedly going to go to Triple Mania and 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.359 drop the title there, and uh, I don want to 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.879 guess what that happened. Oops, no, it did not. Have 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.359 a lot of people really want to think that there's 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.560 a whole new world that Paula Beck is. Look, w 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.199 w E is still w w E. Stephanie McMahon is 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.280 still Vincent McMahon's daughter, and Triple h is still his 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:43.240 son in law. They are wired a lot the same. 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:48.480 They are concerned with number one, period, point blank. That's it, 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.760 and that's all which is their company. They don't care 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.920 about anything or anyone else. When it gets right down 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.720 to it. They could put on a public face and 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.879 they could do a whole bunch of you know, uh, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.840 a whole bunch of flowery talk and this and that. 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:05.800 But the bottom line is, when have they ever worked 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.200 with anybody? When has a tiger ever changed its stripes? 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.520 So there's going to be no change here Tony Khan 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.639 acting disappointed about it, or anybody overly disappointed about it. 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:20.399 And on the New Japan end, those are the brakes. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.439 That's w W E. Why would they work with you. 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.240 It's like when we were making the joke about Vince McMahon. 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.560 You know, maybe he could join with a w and 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.560 get back at the sun and let may come on, 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.200 Vince McMahon would start his own thing before he went 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.359 to somebody else's. They don't care about any of that 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.640 other nonsense. Well, you know, he hasn't been stripped as 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.560 of this exact second, So maybe might maybe, as you 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.320 ridicule this idea, maybe he will return to New Japan 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.520 and do a clean job in the middle of the 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.200 ring that somebody else and dropped that title. That would 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.480 be nice, but it's not gonna happen, I don't think, 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.320 but it would be he the right, you know, what's 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.159 the right thing to do in pro wrestling, you know. 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.160 But I mean, I guess if you're gonna screw over 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.160 friends and things like that, because again going never going 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.679 back there again. He needed the money from the Saudi 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.840 trip last time, talked about the pool he built. I 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.400 guess there's a third pool he's going to be going 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.399 to to build after he gets back from Saudi this time. 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:20.560 But if you made a handshake agreement, and again it's 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.440 the mistake of somebody who takes a handshake agreement over 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:29.360 pen to paper. But there is also a thing for 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.119 your word and what your word may mean. So if 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.440 he did happen to give his word, and I don't 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.520 know what he said to the people, that would be 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.480 the liaisons to New Japan. If he gave his word 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:41.680 and then pulled back out of it, I can see 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.399 why people would be pretty piste off. You know. The 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:52.280 miss is dealing with a burst bursa sack schedule wrestled 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.600 Dexter Loomis n Rah ended up attacking his opponent. The 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.600 match never took place. He revealed that he's dealing with 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.760 a burst versus sack and he's at his shoulder. Was 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.560 a little missed up. You know when I when I 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.680 began reading this, I thought, well, you know, they did 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.680 advertise a match with a stip on Raw and they 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.960 totally did not deliver. But I mean, if the guy's hurt, 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:12.639 I mean, how can I get mad about it? The 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.760 guy's hurts, so maybe that's that's what happened. But then 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:20.400 he reveals I'm wrestling Friday, and not only not only 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:27.959 is he wrestling Friday, but he's wrestling a dark match. Listen, 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.080 a bursta sack is not like a career ending threatening 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.760 injury or anything like that. But if the guy's hurt 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:38.359 and he's not wrestled in three weeks and he's trying 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.879 to heal his shoulder, why are you putting him in 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:47.240 the ring in a dark match? 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