WEBVTT - Best of 2024: The Sandman

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<v Speaker 1>You're good, You're good. Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to pop your bubble, burst your bubble.

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<v Speaker 2>But they put their the numbers out, the ratings down.

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<v Speaker 2>You were the lowest rated episode this season.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that happen? I knew i'd bought you.

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<v Speaker 3>You are so serious. I don't want to birth. Once

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<v Speaker 3>you said that, I was like, she's gotta hit me

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<v Speaker 3>with something good.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I don't know what the numbers are. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of that episode last night. The only

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<v Speaker 2>critique I have is that I wasn't mentioned and I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't interviewed.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, next time.

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<v Speaker 3>They honestly, they got enough on they they left enough

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<v Speaker 3>clips on the on the floor of the studio there

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<v Speaker 3>that they can have another two full episodes of me.

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<v Speaker 1>What is there something they didn't touch base with? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a story?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 4>For example, are we on right now?

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<v Speaker 1>We're on?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? The biggest example was one of my best friends

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<v Speaker 3>that I started going to the Philadelphia Spectrum with. They

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<v Speaker 3>interviewed him for a couple of hours. They never even

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<v Speaker 3>showed him. He was the one that was with me

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<v Speaker 3>when I got thrown out of this Philadelphia Spectrum for

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<v Speaker 3>carrying a piece of the steel cage into the ring

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<v Speaker 3>and the guerrilla Mond soon threw me out when I

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<v Speaker 3>on the back. Yeah, so they didn't They didn't touch

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<v Speaker 3>on so many things Todd. They interviewed Todd the same way,

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<v Speaker 3>Fronsi the same way. And you see a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>little snippets, but they have so much other stuff. They

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<v Speaker 3>only really covered one one angle of mine in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, let's let's get believe it or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote down notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, I did, and I have them on my phone

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to go over each one of them

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<v Speaker 2>because I was just telling Chad. I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I have hung out with you and

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<v Speaker 2>we've traveled up and down these roads together and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you would tell me stories, right, but you wouldn't tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>like the whole story. And when I watched the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's the story he was telling me in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Car when we were going to Queen's or.

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<v Speaker 2>We were going you would say that I did this,

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<v Speaker 2>I did this, I did this, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, cool. And then I watched that, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the same story, and now it makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>My brain lives on six seconds intervals. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times I'm like, all right, what was I talking about again?

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<v Speaker 2>Squirrel and me and her in the car is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're my favorite travel partner, Invice. But the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>I need to ask you because this you might have

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<v Speaker 2>told me, and I either forgot or I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's full of shit. Prostitution.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, so, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Elaborate on that you talk?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it was just a jibbindales.

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<v Speaker 3>They opened up of twenty five hundred people nightclub with

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<v Speaker 3>a big spaceship with a with a robot that came

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<v Speaker 3>out of the center and went on and you got

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<v Speaker 3>to understand, this is the early eighties right here. I

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<v Speaker 3>just get out of jail. I've been out of jail

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<v Speaker 3>for maybe like two three months, and the next thing

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm in this big club on a Thursday

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<v Speaker 3>night ten Bucks so you could drink, and the the

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<v Speaker 3>producer director of the Chippendale's sees me.

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<v Speaker 4>Next thing you know, I'm a Chippendale.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you bang her in that office?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's a let down.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 3>But another part of the story that you didn't hear

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<v Speaker 3>was so she hands me a card of all right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a guy that's going to be your trader.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, this guy's going to be a choreographer. We

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<v Speaker 3>want you to learn how to dance a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she goes, but Nick Denrio's here, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that invented the Chippendales. I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>meet him. So we go out of her office and

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<v Speaker 3>walk it down a small hallway. Nick happens to be

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of his office. He looks right at me

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<v Speaker 3>and looks at her and goes, he's starting tonight, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 3>And she goes, yes, sir, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Nick the guy who hung himself in jail?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, no, Nick Denmrio? Uh it was a mob head.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, Oh okay, okay, because I saw the Chippindale gimmick

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<v Speaker 2>on TV and the guy that they said created the

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<v Speaker 2>Chippendale went to jail and hung himself in jail, in

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<v Speaker 2>his cell.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not how I remember. But I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>that ain't the way it was.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, So let's go back prostitution. You

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<v Speaker 2>paid one hundred so I'm going to sleep with you tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pay you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right which it was one hundred bucks, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna Sep twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would pay you one hundred dollars, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you would have to take forty five dollars to get

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<v Speaker 2>a room.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they would pay for the room that was had

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<v Speaker 3>a credit card. I'm like, lady, I'll meet you here,

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<v Speaker 3>figgin that's it?

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<v Speaker 5>So oh so okay, So the mistress came with the

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<v Speaker 5>lady on the evening whatever she paid for the room,

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<v Speaker 5>and then had to give you one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you had whatever they wanted, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>for how long?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? But you got to understand, I think you were

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<v Speaker 3>paying this's like six eight dollars an hour, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>only working. You're working five hours a night for.

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<v Speaker 4>For Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if you were lucky, you got to go

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<v Speaker 3>up the studio fifty four, which I did a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of times to work up there, and they would pay

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<v Speaker 3>you more to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Up there, right, and so, but you have to make

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<v Speaker 2>money the way you could.

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<v Speaker 1>So how many ladies would you be with?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Probably like maybe twenty total and six more twenty

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<v Speaker 3>a night, No, twenty total twenty your.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole career, your career.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you didn't feel well, you gotta understand. There's not

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of ladies in nineteen eighty four that.

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<v Speaker 3>Are gonna be like, oh yeah, here, dude, get in

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<v Speaker 3>my car.

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<v Speaker 4>We're rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>How big were the bushes back then? Were they huge?

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<v Speaker 3>They did? Nobody was shaved nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that a turnoff?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that a turn off?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't care?

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<v Speaker 1>My god, that's the that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That was every girl just a girl that you would

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<v Speaker 3>be in a club or something and you ended up

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<v Speaker 3>having sex that ye had a bush. Rarely you would

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<v Speaker 3>get the ones that were shaving back in the days.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you wear a condo?

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<v Speaker 3>Never? Once? In my life? Oh god, you should never

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<v Speaker 3>want them. I was so lucky you have.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even talking about the drugs, which we'll get into.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all that dirty puss.

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<v Speaker 3>You should be all right. You gotta understand something, lady.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a I'm not I'm not in a nightclub

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<v Speaker 3>in New York City. I'm in the up like the

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<v Speaker 3>average I would bet you the average person back then

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<v Speaker 3>was probably making one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>the neighborhood that this club was in. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>higher class club. These women had husbands that were making

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<v Speaker 3>money most of them and were spending their husband's money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's said pulsations in this was that where you were?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I was Punny pulsations at my first show. I was

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<v Speaker 2>we wrestled there.

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<v Speaker 3>What, Yeah we did. I had anything to do with it,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>I was Penny pulsations.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I must have told everybody the story that night.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god it didn't last because and you know who

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<v Speaker 2>was You know, that was almost as bad as your

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<v Speaker 2>surfer gimmick.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll get into that too. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>God. Another thing that was about John Taffer was the

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<v Speaker 3>manager of the first night that club to open. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that does all the bar rescues.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The first night the club opened, the spaceship came out

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<v Speaker 3>over top of the dance floor. It fell on some

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<v Speaker 3>lady and killed her child. Her instantly squashed her.

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<v Speaker 4>They swept her up in like ten minutes, and the

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<v Speaker 4>party kept coming the open the night of the club.

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<v Speaker 3>Google that man.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that lady would have paid you one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars to boon later that well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what I was thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>With her dying, that's terrible. That's a terrible story, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the prostitution didn't last very long. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>get into that. The next topic was you meeting Lorie Peaches, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says.

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<v Speaker 1>After two three months she gets pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>You do the right thing, and you want to marry

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<v Speaker 2>her before the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, whether she was pregnant or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, did did the shotgun wedding

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<v Speaker 2>happen because you know she was pregnant?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, it was technically no. The way they edited

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<v Speaker 3>it and they did. They the one story about me

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<v Speaker 3>and Paul when he said he knows McCauley caulkin, they

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<v Speaker 3>edited I never start that story out the way I

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<v Speaker 3>heard it yesterday. So they take words of mine and

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<v Speaker 3>plug them in to start that story, which I never

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<v Speaker 3>start that story with whatsoever. So anyway, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>it to be a shotgun wedding. I wanted to have

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<v Speaker 3>Kyler born already before we got married, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a shotgun wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, I want him to be born.

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<v Speaker 3>I want him there with us. That was important to

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<v Speaker 3>me for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because everybody that I talk to that does dark

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<v Speaker 2>side they say my words got twisted, they took things

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<v Speaker 2>out of content, they edited it to where I said this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't really say this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of hard to know, like what is

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<v Speaker 2>completely accurate.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's when I picked it up. But I would,

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<v Speaker 3>I would pick it up easily. I'm like, I never

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<v Speaker 3>started that story like that ever in my life. I

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<v Speaker 3>never started that story like that ever in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>They would. I would talk for like thirty forty five

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<v Speaker 3>sixty seconds, and then they would start the story from

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<v Speaker 3>there and they would Their editing is so good. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess right now that you don't even pick it up

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<v Speaker 3>where they're taking a me saying that is out of

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<v Speaker 3>some other context and putting it in exactly where they

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<v Speaker 3>want it, you know, which is I guess everybody does

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<v Speaker 3>it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, on one hand, it's genius, But on another hand,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if.

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<v Speaker 1>They put it somewhere you don't want it to be,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're screwed.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's yeah, Well, then anybody that does an episode

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<v Speaker 3>should say that I have final cut, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Why he's smart.

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<v Speaker 2>The best line I ever heard you say was I

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<v Speaker 2>was born as a gimmick. Yeah, that last thing I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard you say in my life. Pot that's the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I popped huge for out of the whole hour,

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<v Speaker 2>because we all know I was a huge mark for

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<v Speaker 2>the wet suit. But it had to go after a while.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just way too much. Who came up with

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<v Speaker 2>that wet suit?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I had to because I started in June nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety by what I had already worked with in my

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<v Speaker 3>first three months. By September, I worked with Ivan Coloff,

0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I had worked with Jimmy Snooka. I had worked with

0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Ron Shawl and uh and Don Morocca. So at that point,

0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:15.160
<v Speaker 3>Jerry Lawler calls Joel Goodheart because it was still Tri

0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.600
<v Speaker 3>State West Alliance. It says, I need a couple guys.

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<v Speaker 3>But unknownst to me, and it wouldn't have mattered anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>The uswa's less than a year of shutting down from

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<v Speaker 3>right now. So Lawler's just searching for anything, anybody cheap

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<v Speaker 3>that wants to come down there because they're playing like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five at night or something. But he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>have a gimmick. So with the Samman, it was my

0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.080
<v Speaker 3>good Heart. But told me, he's like, listen, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>need a gimmick or something like that. So I thought

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<v Speaker 3>of the wet suit and then the surfboard. I go

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<v Speaker 3>to Gary Wolf's house because back then the Pippoles literally

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<v Speaker 3>ran the city of Philadelphia. They knew every bouncer and

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<v Speaker 3>every club anywhere we went. So Gary's like, here, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get your van. We'll go down to Della Avenue. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one o'clock in the afternoon on like a Wednesday. He

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<v Speaker 3>walks in, tells the bouncer. He says, go get that

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<v Speaker 3>surfboard off the wall, because the place was rock lobster.

0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.520
<v Speaker 3>It was it was like, you know, like a beach gimmick.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, all right, he went and took the surfboard

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<v Speaker 3>off there, and next thing you know, it's in my

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<v Speaker 3>man and I'm all my way to Memphis the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>So if Paul didn't say you were getting the surfboard

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<v Speaker 2>broke over your head that night, would you have continued like,

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<v Speaker 2>did it ever occur to you?

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<v Speaker 1>I have to get rid of this gimmick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But but you know what the funny thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>like Todd Gordon buds me. He's like, hack, I was

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<v Speaker 3>the one that was telling Paul that that surfer gimmick

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<v Speaker 3>needs to go, and he missed that.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't give him credit on the show last night.

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<v Speaker 6>I give him all the credit, but it really goes

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<v Speaker 6>to Todd because Todd had so much more to do

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<v Speaker 6>with the transformation into me just being me, and he

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<v Speaker 6>saw that before I even saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the I wish I could have Todd and Paul

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<v Speaker 2>just go great. So one of the stories that people

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<v Speaker 2>might not know, and I said, I'm going to bring

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<v Speaker 2>it up because you can say I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it, but I know you will. They touched

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<v Speaker 2>base with you and Missy a little bit. Missy was

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<v Speaker 2>your your manager for a short time in ECW tell

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<v Speaker 2>the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember where we were.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say somewhere in New York, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember the match was. I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 2>was a tag or if it was just Lorie against Missy.

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<v Speaker 2>Her Rory shot on her and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that okay? Before you tell the story?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that when Missy came to the building and she

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<v Speaker 2>had had all the plastic surgery done.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember what she and she couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that story exactly because it was at Lulu

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<v Speaker 3>Temple in Norristown, Plymouth, meeting Pennsylvania. He got her lips done,

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<v Speaker 3>and the ring and me and Missy we were like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to to like some ship's pasted in the night.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was like here for a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 3>then very soon it was like, all right, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>on a separate way. And then Paul pushed her on

0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:28.880
<v Speaker 3>the Paul of Arlands and get him to do a

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<v Speaker 3>job for Taz. But that's a story for another time.

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<v Speaker 3>My stories have stories right here. So so Missy gets

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<v Speaker 3>her U gets your lips done and they were huge. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So the ring was late that night, so me,

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<v Speaker 4>just me and me.

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<v Speaker 3>I went outside to entertain the crowd and I was

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<v Speaker 3>telling everybody, when Missy comes out, I want you.

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<v Speaker 4>To go ooh, look at her lips, look at her.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know what made me do that, but

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<v Speaker 4>I was so mean that night, and she she cried.

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<v Speaker 3>I apologize to her later, like yeah, she cried, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I felt bad. Okay, like sixty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a passed yet back to the other story.

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<v Speaker 3>So Laurie, Yeah, so see, Laurie knew something was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got women's into the wition.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying that she was my seven

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<v Speaker 3>year rich and she so when she got a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to lace the ship out of her, she did.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I mean, I didn't see that match, but

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I was there and I was in the back,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember somebody going she broke her arm. She

0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.960
<v Speaker 2>broke Missy's arm, and I'm like, what is happening? Like

0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.640
<v Speaker 2>what and they're like, Laurie's shooting on Missy.

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<v Speaker 1>She broke her arm.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot all about that part. Yeah, missus was sown arm?

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<v Speaker 1>What what did she? Like? What happened?

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<v Speaker 4>She just started whacking her with the cane.

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<v Speaker 3>Like wait, wait wait wait yeah, whacking her with the cane.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, did you after that, did you admit

0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you were having an affair?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't remember, but she knew it and

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.320
<v Speaker 3>I knew she knew it, and she got me back.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember that story popped in my head and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I've never seen that match. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how she broke her arm, but I know she

0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:25.440
<v Speaker 2>shot on her, and I was watching the locker room

0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.520
<v Speaker 2>was going ape shit, like saying, Laurie's freaking missus arm

0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and I just never knew, Like I thought, maybe she

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<v Speaker 2>just got her and cranked her and broke her wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't old.

0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I don't know. I don't know what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>How long after that were you guys married for Oh dude, we.

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Were married for way longer than we were together. We

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.960
<v Speaker 3>were probably married technically married for like fifteen years, but

0:17:55.160 --> 0:18:00.320
<v Speaker 3>we were together like maybe a decade, okay, being a

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<v Speaker 3>little more.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So they they, while we're talking about her, might

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<v Speaker 2>as well get into it.

0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So they got into the part where.

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<v Speaker 2>She starts saying, you're starting to take steroids because you

0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.680
<v Speaker 2>know you're hardcore hack. Now you're in w C W

0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:21.360
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. They changed you as a person. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the other, It wasn't everything else that you ever

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<v Speaker 2>took in her life.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the here, you know what I'm saying. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>at least she was just I mean, I was so

0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.840
<v Speaker 3>horrible to her as a husband, you know what I mean?

0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.400
<v Speaker 3>And and and the kids were always more important than her,

0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.440
<v Speaker 3>and she knew that. And I always made sure any

0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.560
<v Speaker 3>girl in my life knew that that you will never

0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.400
<v Speaker 3>be more important than than that. Child, And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>how I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that statement, but I don't agree with

0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the abuse. And like I feel, okay, I'm just I'm

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.280
<v Speaker 2>just telling you as a woman, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>know you right.

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.119
<v Speaker 1>You're one of my best friends. I love you to death.

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<v Speaker 2>If I didn't know you the way I know you now,

0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Hate that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I hated that guy once, Like right now, I

0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.919
<v Speaker 3>hate that guy. You know what I'm saying. But I've

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:28.320
<v Speaker 3>hated that guy for a while, you know. But everything's

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.320
<v Speaker 3>in retrospect. It's when you're thirty years old, life is

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.119
<v Speaker 3>totally different than when you're sixty years old. The older

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.320
<v Speaker 3>you get, the more things come into focus. Hey, you

0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.040
<v Speaker 3>might you might need readers glasses, like I got here

0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 3>somewhere to read the newspaper. But your your insight gets

0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.120
<v Speaker 3>gets way more sharpened that the older that you get,

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.919
<v Speaker 3>and you start to realize how much that what you

0:19:55.200 --> 0:20:00.240
<v Speaker 3>what I was doing was affecting so much more. And then

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.399
<v Speaker 3>my shortsighted hacking. It was just like, how do I

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 3>please myself for the day For a lot of that time,

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, And and and it's kind

0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:16.240
<v Speaker 3>of natural I would think that anybody that when your

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 3>career is rising like that, that you need to be

0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:24.040
<v Speaker 3>more focused on it or or more in tune to it,

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<v Speaker 3>or I'm making an excuse.

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Well I just on that.

0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, No, it was focus of what's real in

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.439
<v Speaker 3>life sometimes because you're so wrapped up in your career.

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:40.399
<v Speaker 3>All right, Yeah, that's that's kind of summed it up

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.480
<v Speaker 3>for me. What's what's important in life?

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Because back in the day, you're so fixated on how

0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.000
<v Speaker 2>do I get myself over, how do I stay on top?

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.360
<v Speaker 2>This is all I know. Blah blah blah, blah blah.

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I was single when I worked there. I didn't have

0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.120
<v Speaker 2>my family, you know what I.

0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Mean, So it was just me, me, me, me me.

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 2>But now, like I would die for my family, and

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's that's you, you know, And I

0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know that other person because I never I hung

0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 2>out with that shows and stuff back in the day.

0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.119
<v Speaker 2>But I never, like with Todd and Raven and all

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 2>those guys, like going to the house and stuff.

0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do that.

0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Like, I wasn't in that circle. So I didn't see

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 2>that side of you, you know what I mean, to

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.280
<v Speaker 2>see that it hurt my heart.

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 3>But I know my heart now, I understand he's so

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 3>blind that I could be so blind and so selfish.

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.760
<v Speaker 4>And really selfish. It's selfish.

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 1>You've changed, You've changed.

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, because the older you get me hopefully, the little

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 3>wiser you get, you know what I mean, you start

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 3>to realize how selfish you really were. And I could

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 3>have had it both ways, but I did it because

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.040
<v Speaker 3>I was a half fast drug addict, right well, I

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 3>could have had it both ways because so many other

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 3>guys could have it both ways, you know what I mean.

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 4>But I screwed all that up.

0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm not I'm not beating a dead horse.

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 1>It's over.

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying the person that you are now, I

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>don't see any traces of that guy whatsoever. And I yeah,

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 2>and I like, I like the person you are now.

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of putting you over, which I hate

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 2>putting you over. Yeah, kind of putting you over for that. Uh,

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>let's go to my little boyfriend, Tyler, who I always

0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.159
<v Speaker 2>tell him you were so mean to me in the

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 2>locker room because he was he was just a miserable

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Speaker 2>little brunt.

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>But you told him to act like that.

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And I understand that and now me and T I

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.960
<v Speaker 2>have a great relationship. The one thing that I never

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.399
<v Speaker 2>got to ask him or ask you. He's six seven

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 2>years old, so he's in kindergarten, first grade something like that, right.

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I held him back because I want I

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 3>didn't put him into kindergarten until he was six years

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 3>old because I wanted that one more year of maturity

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 3>for him. Playing sports as a senior in high school

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.440
<v Speaker 3>had the edge. That's you know, that's how I think

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 3>because I wasn't eighteen until I graduated. He was eighteen

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 3>the first day of school, so he was the oldest

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 3>kid in the class.

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, So regardless of how old he was, he's

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 2>going to school. Are these kids like privy to are

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the parents? Does anybody know what's going on? Is Ty

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 2>putting himself over and selling eight by tens a recess?

0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Like what's happening? Because that's what I would have did.

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're on at two o'clock in the morning, you

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.640
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. And I'm living in Broom Hall

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 3>or Newtown Square, Pennsylvania. There wasn't a wrestling fan kind

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 3>of town, you know what I'm saying. So it took me.

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 3>It took a while longer until I got a little

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 3>bit more till he and me got a little bit

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 3>more famous, because I was.

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Gonna say, like little kids, they talked, and so this

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 2>here he is, he's on television. He's you know, he's

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 2>in the hottest angle at the company season a long time.

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 4>And he's had explained that in another first graders.

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you something, this great angle with this dude.

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Raven kissed him because look at look at the delivery

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 2>in the promos that he gave that little ship was

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>right on the money, and.

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Like Scotty said, he goes.

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Scotty was like, I could flub my lines and forget

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 2>to give him his cue, and he would just say

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>his line like that.

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 3>And the last spot that they showed him, we were

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 3>in the park in New York City, like its two

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 3>three a m oh, this is the same night we

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 3>had Meani naked on and he had all and he

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 3>was doing blue dust. So we went and got the

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 3>we got.

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 7>Blue icing from acting. We put it all over him

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.880
<v Speaker 7>and a cop happens to show up. As I mean,

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 7>he's naked on this bridge, that one of those wooden bridges.

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>With a seven year old kid.

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning at a park

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 3>in New York. Well, but it was, but there was

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 3>a neighborhood around the park, you know what I mean.

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a central park or whatever.

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 3>So there was there was houses within like one hundred

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 3>and fifty yards of us. Yeah. Yeah, And then we

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 3>wake him up. He goes and stands on a rock.

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 3>He's literally he's been awake for maybe a minute or two.

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 3>It's druzzling out a little bit. We pull them over.

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 3>We say, stand on his rock and say this. When

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 3>Ravin gets done, this one take him. He went right

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 3>back in the car with the sleep.

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>What was his salary, any toy.

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 3>That he wanted and went to We went there. Back

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 3>then it was Kmart, So I would take him to

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Kmart every morning. That was like one of our deals.

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So he wasn't on the payroll. He didn't ask

0:25:59.040 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Debby for.

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 3>A dry wrestlers. He had eight million wrestlers and we

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 3>still have him in like big tubs. And is it

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 3>the basement of this?

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>How could you not make him get in line and say, Deabbie,

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>where's my draw?

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 3>That's funny.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I would have made a mass for a draw, All right?

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>What else?

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 3>What else?

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>The cross angle, the crucifixion angle.

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:30.159
<v Speaker 3>You still have no regret, no zero, absolutely zero.

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>The worst angle that has ever been portrayed in a

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 2>wrestling company ever.

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, so who's right now? The Palestinians are the Israels.

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.679
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's a movie.

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 3>You're watching a movie. But my point is with the

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Palestinians and the Israels today, all this strife that's happening

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 3>and all these kids, I gotta go a little bit

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 3>of like general public knowledge on you right here. Couldn't

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 3>happening everywhere and it's all over So I don't know

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 3>how to So what was your problem with it?

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't you have just been the sharks and the Jets

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and like.

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe cracko jets in the hall, like yeah, just here,

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 3>come on, and you're in the jet all the way

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 3>from your first cigarette, your last Balian day.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with you. I hated that angle.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I was one of the people that went up the

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>pollen screens in his face and said somebody needs to apologize. Now,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying I was the main person who got

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Scotty to go out there and apologize I was right,

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I was lit it. I I just thought it was

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 2>the most disrespectful thing I'd ever seen in the world,

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 2>because even like for me, even if you don't believe,

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 2>like so many people believe in religion, and how holy

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>and just sacred that is to certain people, and to me,

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 2>it was made a mockery of. And I just I

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>just found it to be very poor.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.959
<v Speaker 8>Tokay, Now, suppose you saw on suppose the Exorcist movie,

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 8>all right, but suppose it happened on a movie screen,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 8>would you would you leave the movie theater?

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't watch it.

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 3>I did not watch the blasphem and so of it all.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>What what I believe in makes me tend to not

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>watch that stuff. And that's just me, And I'm not

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not preaching. I'm not saying I'm holier

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>than now and I haven't made mistakes in my past

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. I'm just saying for what I believe

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 2>in as a you know, as a Catholic, I guess

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>it offended me, and.

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I just didn't.

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm supposed to pet.

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 3>That was the whole idea of it. I just was,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 3>you know what, that was our Howard Stern. You know

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, The shock value all that I knew

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>that I was, I was at least smart enough at

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 3>that point in my career that the shock value is

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 3>going to be great, and that's what you're looking for.

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>And you're on the money with that. I will agree

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>with you on that.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Understand your point of view. And it's a out of there.

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 3>There was crickets when that was happening, when they realized

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 3>if you look at the people in the background that

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 3>are usually go crazy.

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>They're all like, I've never I've never been in that

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>arena where they didn't respond, like with an overwhelming war

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>of applause or something. And I just I was right

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>in front of the monitor and I said and I

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and I turned around with.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>This disgusting face and I just went, Paul, you just

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and I said, yeah, I had sent.

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Somebody out there to apologize right now. I said, that

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 2>was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. I let

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>him have it, and he just he took it. He

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't argue with me, he didn't say too where.

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>He just took it. And I sat back. Yeah, I know.

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I look again, I'm just bringing it up because they

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>brought it up on the show and I have to

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>relive it again. It I was hot and I was like,

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I hate this angle.

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I did it. I'm sorry.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Hey, that's the response that you want. Love it, hate it.

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 3>It's a response.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Help me, I know, I know. All right, Well, I

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to see if you bad or not.

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't all right, what else, Chad?

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you have anything to mention because I got.

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>You've been suspiciously quiet.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 9>Well, I like to when you guys talk, I like

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 9>to just listen because now that's smart.

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Let it breathe, let us do it exactly.

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 9>But but I see, but I just got to like

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 9>they went to the WWE side and then it just

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 9>kind of ended. So where where else did they go

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 9>with it after they started talking to you about the

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 9>WWE side of your career? Like, what else did they come?

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 3>When I got there, I knew in my head that

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 3>it was a short lived thing. It was it was

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 3>an I'm thinking in my head maybe a year year

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>and a half that, uh.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 4>That that's gonna happen. And I have zero.

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Expectations when I'm going into that, except that the money's

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 3>going to be great.

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Same.

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Although you know, it's funny you said that because I

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>remember being in a car with Al Snow very early

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>to where I when we signed our contracts, because we

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>all signed at the same time, right, yeah, And I

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>was riding with Al one weekend and uh, and I said,

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna last six months here, and I just

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>had that gut feeling, you know, and He's like, don't

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>say that, and I go, I'm saying it. I'm calling it.

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, I signed for three years. I guess garantee

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>you six months six months to the day was when

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I got released.

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>I just were you really started thirty six one month contracts.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:10.239
<v Speaker 3>That's what that was.

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was I knew from the get go

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 2>with something told me like, this is your this is

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>your last big run, this is your last.

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 9>Me.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I remember me heard Sabu driving around somewhere northern Jersey

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 3>with a garment, and the garment sentus like three hotels

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>that didn't even exist anymore. They were like vacant parking lots.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>The garment was probably a two inch screen.

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Ye.

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I was one of the first people to have one ever.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 3>She was so proud of it too. Oh wait, she's like,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 3>oh look, we don't need a map anymore, because.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You remember, we wouldn't use map quest.

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't paid in the aspect. People doing all these

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 3>guys today don't understand that we would know the town

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 3>and and when we were driving in we would have

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 3>we would go to like a seven to eleven and

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 3>hope we would see a poster like they papered the

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 3>town to know where the building was, and then we'd

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>have to hand somebody you couldn't make it to a

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 3>building with.

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 4>It'll make it a couple of long turns.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Back in the day, it just didn't happen.

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>We'd have almanacs.

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh therese ABC maps where you had to go to

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 3>one page to the other and everybody got screwed up

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>when the town was at the top of this page

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 3>and then you had to turn if you're still going north,

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 3>you had to turn the page thirty six and then

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 3>put that off at the bottom. Or d McNally, yeah,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 3>now they used to call me hack McNally because at

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 3>one point, even before that, they had what was that

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 3>thing that they came out the maps, road maps, map quest,

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 3>map quest. And then when we were on the road.

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I would print them up for people and give

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>them the people to get to the to get to

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 3>the next town. So I was like, hack McNally, that's funny.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 9>What else did they cover though with you that didn't

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 9>get put into the dark side?

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Uh? Or I told you my whole growing up, my

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 3>whole history from when I was five years old watching

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>it and talking to my old friend and every time

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 3>we went to the Spectrum. We went to the Spectrum

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 3>every single solitary month for probably five years, from the

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 3>time I was like sixteen till twenty one.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, until I went in jail when I was twenty one.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 9>But even like I'm talking about from the post WWE side,

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 9>it's like they hit WWE and then they were like, boo.

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 1>It made it like your career ending.

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 3>That was it? Well yeah, because they got to wrap

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 3>up the show. We want more of a PostScript though,

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 3>give me something. Yeah, but I expect that, you know

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. They're trying to wrap it up. They're

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 3>getting there, their points across, and seventeen years ago the

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 3>lot's happened.

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Yeah, we're still making towns. I mean, my god,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>put the guy over.

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, at least who was it? Oh was it

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.879
<v Speaker 3>raven or somebody said, well, at least he's still doing

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 3>it thirty five years later, which is a joke when

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 3>you think about it. For any that we're still making money.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 3>People pay us.

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.560
<v Speaker 4>To go have family reunions all over the country.

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 3>The greatest thing ever, it really is. None of us

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 3>thought that.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Look, we work really hard and we give a lot

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 2>of ourselves at these.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah we did.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>We say it all the time. We're like, we're the

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>luckiest people in the world. Were now with our best friends,

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>we have a good time.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>We sign our name the paper and that's it.

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so great. I have I have one more question.

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I have a fireball shot here and there.

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I love it all right, the last time you got

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>arrest it according to the the TV show.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Right Juel Bado's party, seventy fifth birthday.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>It was okay, I said earlier, I.

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Said the run of the Swat Team for me.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I said, there's no way this is a wrestling show.

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 2>It looks like a banquet hall at a wedding reception.

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was. It was this big captain moves seventy

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 3>fifth birthday.

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>So okay, So you were performing or anything, you were.

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 3>No, I was just there drinking thirty Long Island, I

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 3>was teasing me foremost okay, literally thirty.

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 2>It looked like you were at a well technically you

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>were like supposed to be at a show, working or something.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.439
<v Speaker 2>But then when they showed you, I said, no way,

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, the way that the tables.

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I started on a bank table with microphone.

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. I said, did they hire him

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>for a button? It's like, what's going on?

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 3>And the albo was doing some of my bookings then,

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 3>so that's how I ended up there, and I'm like, yeah,

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 3>I want to be a captain. Seventy fifth birthday. So

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 3>me Gary to Pitbull and Big Joe that that big,

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 3>that six foot nine biker we used to hang out with?

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>What and then what happened? What did you get an arc?

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 3>And over? Who knows? I was shif faced, but from

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 3>the other stories from everybody, because I don't really remember much.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 3>So imagine a bar down in South Philly. Uh that's

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 3>a that's an end unit on a street, a rowhouse,

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.760
<v Speaker 3>so you know how they have the bars underneath. Okay,

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 3>so it's kind of think about that. We're out back,

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>he throws a bottle at me, hits me right here

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 3>in the head explodes. Then he runs into the back door.

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 3>So I start running down the street and I'm watching

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.959
<v Speaker 3>him through the through the windows, running running through the bar.

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Now the Jimmy, Jimmy Vegas, No, not Jimmy Vegas, is

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 3>some other guy, Jimmy. He was in the kitchen at

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 3>the time.

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 4>He said.

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I came in and started throwing glances around, started getting crazy,

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 3>and then he goes And then I found the guy

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 3>hiding behind the door. I opened up the door and

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 3>he was and he was holding this like eighteen inch

0:37:55.239 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 3>salt and pepper shaker, you know those overs And the

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 3>next thing, the swat team gave it.

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>So wait, you went after him to beat him up.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean well obviously.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>After he threw the bottle at your head, you were

0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>still conscious.

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, nobody could believe that the thing exploded and

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 3>a million pieces too. Guys couldn't believe that I was

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>chasing him. I would chased so like ten seconds afterwards.

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, So every story was said, there's not a

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 2>good story that was left off the car.

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 3>All right, I got a story to tell you today.

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>That dreamer reminded me of today. Okay, he goes, I

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you remember this, but we were at

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 3>the I have no idea this story. So I'm like,

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 3>all right, what did I do? What did I do?

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 3>So we went to the Metallica concert in La at

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the at the coliseum one hundred thousand people or whatever

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 3>there was, and we're backstage because he guess as soon

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 3>as they started playing the Samman song, you ran right

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 3>out on stage and what dram up like that? Like

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 3>the whole place was there to see me. I would

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>have bet at ten gee, I would have bet my

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 3>life that I was never on stage with Madonna.

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 4>How do I not remember that.

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>My head thirty long islands in that was the Captain lows?

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 3>But who knows? Oh, Dreamer said, Well, back then seven

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 3>to eleven and wah wah had these big buckets. They

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 3>were big, like uh plans to paper cups that held

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 3>like forty five ronces. So I would fill the whole

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 3>thing up with vodka and then uh and then top

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 3>it off a little bit with mountain dew or something

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.240
<v Speaker 3>like that. So here's the other part of the story.

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 3>So we're outside of the Kyle See and the dreamer goes.

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 3>You see this cop and he and he's got this

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 3>chip thing on him. This he's a chip cop. You

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 3>walk right up to him, start talking to him because

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 3>this was brand new when Chip was there. And you

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 3>know me, I'm in on current events and stuff like that.

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Because next thing I know, you're handing your bucket of alcohol.

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I've been up for three days handed to him. He

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 3>lets me ride his motorcycle around the parking lot. Don't

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 3>even remember it. He's had to the cop hand my

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 3>big bucket. Well, he knew who I was though, he

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 3>knew I was the Sandman, so that helped a little bit.

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>And he's getting me on his motorcycle.

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.919
<v Speaker 3>Dummy, I know, Hey, you just got me these Sometimes

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 3>I just walk into some stuff.

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that story would have been aces to put on

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the Dark Side episode I.

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Forgot.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 4>That's why people are like, why don't you write a book.

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I don't remember anything.

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I would have to give a chapter out the friendy,

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 3>a chapter out the dream, or a draft out. I

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 3>would give the four wards to the book. That's it.

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I get them forward.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Hey, this is how these people remembered.

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, you have lived a charmed life. And

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Todd was right and Laurie was right. You should have

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>been dead a long time. But I'm so glad you're alive.

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Multiple times I should easily done.

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy you're still with us, because yes, me too.

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 3>My grandkids got up like six forty five with my

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 3>two year old grandson and then two years two hours later,

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 3>the four year four year old got up, took them

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 3>out back to the pool and stuff.

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Called the pool video.

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I was Oliver shooting that with me and these.

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>It was so cute. Yeah, I love I love seeing

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>this is what I love.

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I love that time. There's nothing better than that time.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 4>I love getting up with them in the morning.

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 3>And I am never ever up at that time unless

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I gotta get on an airplane. I'm not up at

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>six forty five.

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh by the way, we're not flying on the private

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>plane anymore. We're fine. I'll talk to you about that later.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it changed, No, but we were we were

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 2>in I don't know where we were, but it was

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>last I think it was last year, and it was me,

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 2>you and Shane. It was like nine thirty, you know,

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.720
<v Speaker 2>at night, and we had just got to the hotel.

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.919
<v Speaker 2>We had a show the next day or whatever. We're

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 2>just chilling and Hack goes, twenty years ago, we'd be

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the room doing coke or getting bombed or

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 2>this and that. He goes, Now we're talking about our kids,

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and we're now that we don't have any alcohol here

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>and no drugs. And he goes, and this is great,

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>And I said, yeah, it's nice. It's different, and it's

0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>nice because.

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 4>We have matured different phases of life.

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I listen, I enjoyed.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 3>The problem is I got stuck at fifteen year old

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 3>for like forty years. That was my problem.

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 1>That's yours.

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Every psychiaogist, every psychiatrist I've ever told, they were like, dude,

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 3>you never you never mature at over fifteen years old.

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 3>That's when you're problem. That's why he gets to get

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 3>along so good with kids, because you never matured.

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you have, but I think there's certain

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 2>instances where you still act like an idiot.

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>And I can say that because.

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Every day, like eighteen times, well, I walk around saying, heck,

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 3>why did you do that? You're an idiot? I talked

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 3>to You're an idiot.

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed you back then, but I thoroughly enjoy you now.

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, we have ten times better relationship than wherever.

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 4>But we had Shane in between and saying he was

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 4>he was, he was a plug and he has a progress.

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>He was he wasn't Debbie Downer.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I don't believe I just said that.

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell me you said that.

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 3>My grandfather said that back in the day.

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 2>There was a time and I was thinking about this

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>today because you and I are really close, right, but

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 2>there was a time when you and I wanted to

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 2>kill each other. And I don't remember that was my fault.

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember where the tension was. But I know

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the night that you came back where you you think you.

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Got the lautist pop pop why he started on a

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>tornado and a volcado.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, the building registered on the Richter scale

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 3>that night.

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Listen that night we didn't talk and I was in

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the ring with you, and you wouldn't put you wouldn't

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 2>put the beer, you wouldn't give me the beer, and

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't hug me, and you would There were so

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 2>many days and it was super awkward. And if you watch,

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I just watched it the other day because someone no

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 2>it's at the end me, you and Tommy are in

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 2>the rink and you had justging. You and Tommy are hugging,

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm standing there and I'm like, okay, I know

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 2>there's heat. I don't know why there's heat. Is this

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>m I for gonna hug me because this is really awkward?

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 2>And you didn't, and I said, well then I'm not

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 2>going to hug him. So Tommy he hands me the

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 2>beer and I just start drinking it by myself because

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, I got to do something.

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Because I I thought you wouldn't drink the beer.

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, we had heat.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 4>We did, we did.

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember you.

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Were mad at me for something I was Shane's fault.

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.279
<v Speaker 3>I blame in Shane for that because he will be

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 3>the common denomination he left.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was. I know that was the.

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Reason he left, to put all the heat on you,

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 3>and that's why I got mad at you.

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember, but every time I watched that video,

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I get so mad because I'm like, man, how can

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you watch? I know, but sometimes people put it on

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>my my timeline and it's there and I'm just by

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 2>myself drinking him fear like a loser, and I'm just like,

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember.

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>For the life of me why we fought.

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it was my fault, all.

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, I'll say it was your fault, but I just

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>don't remember what it was.

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 2>But it made me sad. I'm like, this could have

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>been such a more fun night for me, and I

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:06.720
<v Speaker 2>was happy that you were back.

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 3>And oh so that's why that's why it's not the

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 3>biggest pop ever, because I shunned you at the end

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 3>of the biggest poem. Oh wow, now you're really showing

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 3>your true collars, Fanny. It's because I shunned you. That's

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.320
<v Speaker 3>why I wasn't the biggest.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, out of ten, i'd give you like a

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>seven point eight.

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, if I can weigh in.

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 9>I do have to take the headphones out when he

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 9>comes out because it is so loud, so very loud.

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 2>It is a good pop and he's jacked and then

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and then the jackness goes away after like three monks.

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Well, dude, I only worked out for six months ever

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 3>in my entire life. I know, that's it. I did

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 3>six months. I got jack stop working it.

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Because you were in the lands of the giants and

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 2>then you came back to the lands of the.

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Pudgies and it was great.

0:46:58.200 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 3>It was anyway.

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad we got you. I wanted to get

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you first, but stupid busted open beat me. But that's okay.

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 2>What do you want to share with us? Where are

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you going to be?

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you even know your schedule?

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:12.240
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:14.839
<v Speaker 1>You were coming up.

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I had to bring this card with me, Samman bad

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 3>so I could plug my stuff here because I can't

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 3>because I can't remember any of it.

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I should have drew abs on you. You're little, a

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<v Speaker 1>little pudgy in that drawing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, see that wouldn't be realistic, a realistic rendition

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 4>what my body actually looks like a filter? Dude, you

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 4>should see me without pants on. It's even worse.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't. I got a flatter ass for Franny right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Had back My ass is good? Now? Oh now, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like God compared the way it was back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working out.

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<v Speaker 3>You could tell she's what she works it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working it out, all right. So we we have

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<v Speaker 1>to Sandman podcast.

0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Or yeah YouTube at Sandman podcast is twitter at ECWC Man. No,

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 3>that was TikTok at Eacwcman and then x at saman

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<v Speaker 3>Pod done reading. Okay, there's more of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have we have nothing, we have stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, Chris said something. Oh oh my god, this weekend.

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 3>It was horrifying. Now how Chris needs an assistant when

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.280
<v Speaker 3>he's set and everything up. He does it all himself.

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I flew into Cleveland. Then I had to drive five

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 3>out two hundred and seventy five miles with the worst

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 3>driver I've ever had in my entire life. It was

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 3>like guess break, but it was so horrible. Then I

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 3>go to a hotel. Nobody else is there. I don't know,

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 3>it's late. I'm bumming. The next day we have an

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 3>autograph signing and then I go in and came somebody

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 3>the first match, and then have to drive two hundred

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and seventy five miles to to wherever the Hall of

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Fame is, the Football Hall of Fame Dayton, Ohio. Then

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 3>had to do his show an entrance there, and then

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I had to drive like one hundred miles to Cleveland

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<v Speaker 3>to take my flight.

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<v Speaker 2>To next Why on earth did he not just fly

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<v Speaker 2>you into the first that you had to do?

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<v Speaker 3>He had too much, he did not it's I mean,

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 3>it's his fault, but it's not his fault. He's been

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 3>told more than he could chew, and he just but

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 3>he's a great guy and I love him, so I

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 3>love him too.

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 2>But when I take bookings, I approved the flights before they.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the only one I don't no, I I do

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<v Speaker 3>with him too. He didn't get my fight till like

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 3>eight days before. That's how. That's how on the organized

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 3>he was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrible. That's a long time in the court.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, Chris, though we do love it. Lose

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 3>some weight though. For your daughters. You gotta stay alive.

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Right now, Chris just saying, look, everybody else calls a moose,

0:49:57.719 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 3>so if.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 2>You're listen, we were with a promoter who had a

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 2>daughter that was a little chunky.

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 3>And dude, actually, if it comes across my mind, I

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 3>just say it. I don't know.

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.439
<v Speaker 1>She's like, you know, this kid's really fat. She needs

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to go and a diet.

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, the girl is like ten years old

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<v Speaker 3>and like a buck eighty.

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I said, it's the promoter's daughter. Please shut your mouth.

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>We didn't even get paid yet, just to quiet killing me.

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<v Speaker 3>The best. We didn't even that's the first thing she

0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 3>goes and say, she dash and shut up.

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 4>We haven't a page.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, don't don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabotage a little bit of a career that I have left.

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<v Speaker 1>Please help me. We're gonna be together, uh May thirty. First,

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be in West Virginia for the weekend. We

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<v Speaker 1>got three shots that weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro? Wait is that to me? First?

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<v Speaker 4>Into the June first?

0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I cancel that. I cancel it. I did because I

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 3>want to do something with Frankie Edgar in the m

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 3>M A clean him met I was on his podcast

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 3>and then and he's got to fight in New Jersey

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 3>that well, he's going into the Hall of Fame, but

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 3>his young boy is fighting Tyler, my son's friend from

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 3>high school.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not coming with me that weekend, I.

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Don't think so it's three shots it is, I know,

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 3>but well, all right, here's the deal. I want to

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 3>do it for for my social media because I could

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:43.800
<v Speaker 3>be backstage with the m M.

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 10>And he told me, Mma, you texted me the other one.

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 10>I don't think I've ever seen speechless friends.

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<v Speaker 1>At right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Where is it you said? I missed you so bad

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.240
<v Speaker 2>these last two weekends. I need my travel companion.

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I do, But I, well, why don't you just come

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 3>to Frank Jeedgar with us?

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Because I got three shots and I'm getting paid huge

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:12.839
<v Speaker 2>money for.

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh I am never talking to you again if you

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>don't come with me.

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I I worked on our flights this past weekend to

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<v Speaker 2>get us.

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 1>The best flight.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I give you a Paul Hayman answer right now?

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a bullshit answer.

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm sorry, my phone's ringing right now.

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm sad. No, don't make me fly to West

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Virginia alone. Two shots are for Moose and one shot

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:44.320
<v Speaker 1>is the Big Beckley Show.

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, But well here's the thing. When I

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.240
<v Speaker 3>mentioned at the Moose, He's like, I got no problem.

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm worried about that weekend for you.

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Right now, I got a problem.

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 3>I know what you do with you.

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you we're breaking up.

0:52:57.680 --> 0:52:59.839
<v Speaker 3>If you're gonna put some shade on you for very

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 3>now right now that nowadays, I'm really mad at you.

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, then good bye, get off my screen. You're

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not coming for real.

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know yet. I have to make a decision.

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:17.959
<v Speaker 1>It's three shots, it's a lot of money, and I'm

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:19.240
<v Speaker 1>there and it'll be so fun.

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Right, let me talk to the moods to see if

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 3>it's still happening, because I just talked to him. I

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 3>know when he acted like it was no problem, me

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:28.719
<v Speaker 3>changing out of it.

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>No, there's a problem. There's a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna call you now.

0:53:34.440 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm calling podcast.

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 2>People don't listen to his podcast unless he comes with me.

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<v Speaker 2>May thirty first, All right, love you bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Kid.

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